Zach's Whiskey Corner: The Angel's Share / Mortlach 20 ft. Ewan Morgan, Diageo

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Hey everybody, this is Bob Book,
host of Film and Whiskey.

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For the next couple weeks on the
Film and Whiskey Feed, you're

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going to be hearing from our
friend Zach Johnston.

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Zach is the Spirits Editor for
Up Rocks.

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He is just a really good guy to
have in your corner.

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He's somebody that we are
thrilled to have gotten to know

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over the years on film and
whiskey.

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He's one of our favorite
recurring guests and he is one

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of those guys that you just
don't meet very often anymore.

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He's part of a dying breed.
He is incredibly humble, but

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incredibly learned.
He's the kind of guy that after

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a couple drinks, you find out he
lived in Berlin for years and

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years.
He went to film school, so he

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knows what he's talking about
when he comes on our show.

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But then I read an article like
his most recent one in Up Rocks,

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and he says that he's tried over
2000 samples of whiskey already

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this year alone.
He knows more about whiskey than

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I will ever hope to.
He knows more about film and

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life and just everything than I
will ever hope to.

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And what he's doing for the next
few weeks is he is traveling

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around the world and he is
opening up his collection of

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secrets to you.
He's opening doors that we would

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never have access to to talk
with some of the best regarded

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and highest regarded people in
the spirits industry.

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Zach's traveling not just in the
United States, but to Europe as

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well, to sample incredible and
sometimes rare whiskies and to

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talk about some of his favorite
films.

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Even better than that, he's
paired up each movie that he's

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talking about with a
geographical region, and today

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we are going over to Scotland.
I won't spoil for you who the

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guest is or what the Whiskey is,
and in fact, I'm going to throw

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it over to Zack here in just a
minute.

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I'm presenting all of his
interview unedited for your

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listening pleasure.
This is the first of five weeks

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with Zack, and we're calling
this Zack's Whiskey Corner.

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So without further ado, let's
listen in to episode one of

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Zach's Whiskey Corner with Zach
Johnston.

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Hello everyone, This is Zachary
Johnston.

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This is Zach's Whiskey Corner,
part of the Film and Whiskey

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Podcast Special December
edition.

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And this is where I am.
Talking through some of my

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favorite films and drinking
beautiful whiskeys with those

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films and I always have a guest
with me to drink most with me

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and talk about the film.
And while this sort of limited

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series was meant to be about US
regions and the favorite films

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from those regions, we're taking
a departure today and we're

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going over to Scotland.
Talk about one of my favorite

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directors, Ken Loach.
One of my favorite all time

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whiskeys Mortlock 21 of my
favorite all time people Mr.

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Ewan Morgan Who is the.
Luxury.

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I'm sorry.
Luxury ambassador for Diageo

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whiskeys and an educator for
luxury whiskeys at Diageo Yun,

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thank you so much for joining
us.

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Well, thank you for having me
Zach.

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I really appreciate it and I'm
very excited to talk about this

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movie for multiple reasons.
What we'll we'll get into in a

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minute and all the sake to taste
the delicious more like 20 as we

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go through.
Yes.

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And so, yeah, I just want to say
to everyone listening out there,

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you and I have known each other
for a little while now, you

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know?
Working with Diageo, Mulch and

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things like that.
And you know, meeting up in New

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York to have a drink, meeting up
in New Orleans to have a drink.

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But I, you know, as you do in
this industry and there are a

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few people that can get you more
excited about drinking great

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Scotch than you and Morgan.
So I'm very excited for this

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opportunity.
When you remember the whiskey I

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gave you in New Orleans when we
bumped into each other.

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Yeah, it was a Challisker 44 and
it was kelp kelpie, right?

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Yeah, it was the Telescope 44
when we bumped into each other,

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yeah.
At some someone else's party who

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can remain him unnamed.
Yeah, another industry shindig,

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yes.
Yeah that was a that was a

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saving grace pour of that night
for me because that is as as you

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know you know but to the whisk
filming whiskey fans out there,

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I'm a very old and deep
telescope fan and that whiskey

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phenomenal like one of the one
of the most beautiful.

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Whiskeys I think I've ever
tasted in general, much less

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from talisker.
But as much as I'd love to go

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deeper on that, we need to get
into our film.

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All right, and.
So for me, you know, for filming

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whiskey fans out there, you know
Ken Loach is a very, very, very

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working class focused director.
The English director, he's won

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several poems of yours from
Cannes.

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This film the Angels share
actually won the Jury Prize at

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Cannes.
He wrote it with his Long Time

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collaborative.
Long time collaborator Paul

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Laverty who he's been writing
films with for literally

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decades.
And the film follows a group of,

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I won't say petty criminals, but
sort of like young criminals who

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are sort of like me to why?
In the road where they're either

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going to like become full on
criminals for the rest of their

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lives and probably have short
lives, or try and get out of the

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slums of Glasgow and try to get
out of poverty and try to do

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something more with their lives,
given that it's a Ken Loach

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film.
It's all very real.

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It's all very visceral.
It's all very sort of like cloak

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cuts close to the bone, a lot of
stolen shots of actual people,

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you know.
And it is a sort of film where

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you don't really see in the US
film market that much.

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You just don't see American
movies that are this close to

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the bone.
Mostly because Hollywood system

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desires money over anything
else, whereas European system

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desires art and telling people
stories and they have.

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But you know national film
boards that support artists like

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this to tell these stories.
So Ewan, what's your initial

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thoughts of the Angel share?
All right, so Full disclosure, I

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I first watched it when it came
out, 2012, and then I I did a

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refresher.
I watched it just just the other

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day just to remind myself to see
if there was any bits that I had

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missed and there was.
There was bits I had completely

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forgotten about.
But to to your point you don't

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really see that that kind of
working class very real style of

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film here.
I suppose the closest you would

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get something like maybe Larry
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But that's kind of kind of more
like the kind of teen kind of

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angst kind of stuff where
whereas this is focusing on all

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people who are, who are
effectively kind of living their

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lives between the cracks and and
working class glass where I used

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to, I used to live in Glasgow.
So I I know people who are who

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are like that and they have,
they have a nickname and they're

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called Neds, Neds, Neds.
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So the people, the the
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probably what we would classify
as Neds, which some people say

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stands for non edged non
educated delinquents.

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I don't know if that's true or
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I like to think that it is but
what what were my thoughts on

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it?
So I have a few.

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Fact factually it's it's pretty
good.

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You know, like the whiskey facts
and they're they we're going to

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talk about Charlie McLean in a
minute.

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But you know he was a consultant
on this and he, he's a great

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knowledge on all things whiskey
and whiskey history and that's

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how I first met him actually
years years ago so.

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So factually, it's pretty good.
And the whiskeys that they

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reference, and they're pretty
nerdy at the beginning.

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Thinking Spring Bank 32 on a
kitchen team box.

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And that's like a six grand bowl
of whiskey.

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So, So yeah, the whiskeys are
there are pretty nerdy fact

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factually on other ends of it.
I know they had to like make a

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movie in it and it had to have
like a bit of pizzazz and

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excitement to it.
So like they referenced Malt

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Mill distillery in it that the
the cask in it, I'm not going to

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give too much aware about the
plots and I'm going to go

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through that.
But we there is no cask of malt

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milk in existence that that
we're aware of.

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We have a one sample bottle of
new make which is a lag of wool

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and distillery but everything
else in it from that distillery

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which only ran from nineteen O 8
to 1962 and we could chat we

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there by that as we go through
this as well.

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But most of it went into
Mackey's ancient age and oh

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white and also White Horse.
So I actually have an auto here.

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See World War 2 that actually
references malt milk on it.

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So wow.
Yeah, so they that's.

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Incredible.
Yeah, they couldn't, they

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couldn't really find the kind of
a single malt outlet for it

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because you know, between us the
the liquid wasn't deemed of a

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high enough quality to be
released as a single malt, so

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they blended it out.
So it's a very a very, it is a

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very, very rare whiskey because
there's no bottle in existence.

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So I know why they picked it.
But it's it's a good film.

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I I will say this, and this
doesn't really spoil the story

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of it.
The the ending is slightly weird

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for me because most stories are
supposed to have kind of this

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kind of moral compass,
especially with Ken Loach.

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And then at the end of it you
you find out that crime actually

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does pay.
Pace, Yeah, I mean, we'll get

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there.
But you know, you're very on

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point with Ken Loach in that.
You know, you watch like the

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win, the shakes, the barley or
you know Carlos song or even you

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know his more recent stuff.
Sorry we missed you.

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And tends to be devastating
endings like true tragic, real

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world consequences.
Just like you leave there, you

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leave the cinema and you're
like, I need a drink.

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This is a happy ending and it
you know, spoiler alert, happy

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ending.
This cry pays.

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So let's let's let's let's take
the journal there.

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So you know the film film opens
with our our sort of we were

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introduced for our lead Robbie
who's in courts at least play by

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Paul Brannigan and basically you
get this introduction where the.

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The judges reading off like who
he is and like his parents were

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drug addicts and he grew up on
the streets and he's been in

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gangs and he's blah, blah, blah.
And that's pace basically just

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Paul Brannigan's actual history.
Because Paul Laverty found Paul

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Brannigan in a like halfway
house when he was doing research

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for the script, so he could make
like the dialogue sound correct

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for Neds, basically.
And finally got him to audition

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and so that half like classical
smile he has on his face is from

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when he was in a gang he got in
a fight like so this is a very

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visceral sort of real
performance by somebody who was

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living that life.
And you can see as the

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characters are sort of
introduced in court it it is has

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a Versila matute to it.
That's just something that Ken

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Loach was able to capture the
magic of and you kind of get a

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sense.
And this is still the opening

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credits technically, where?
Yeah, these people, they're not,

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they're not murderers and like
hardcore criminals yet.

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But all these people are very
much on that relative, you know,

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just a few more breaks and you
get that sense really on that

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first courthouse scene.
Yeah, yeah.

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I mean, I mean, they set it up
really well in the way that, you

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know, he's kind of been, he's
kind of been living this life of

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like, crime because he was born
into that.

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And there's no real hope for a
lot of people like that.

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But then the judge, and again,
this doesn't spoil the story,

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The judge gives some leniency to
him and gives them community

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service.
So which means he doesn't have

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to get reprimanded and go to
jail.

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So he's given a second chance
and and it's really that fork in

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the road does.
Does he continue down a life of

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crime or does he then try and
and turn his life around because

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you know his his girlfriend is
pregnant?

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As well, so.
And we learned it's sort of like

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he's getting almost a third
chance, but we'll get to that

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plot point because it comes
becomes very important later.

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But yeah, so you can community
service, which it's called

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community payback I believe.
Yeah, we are.

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We, yeah, we call it community
service as well, but in the

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script I think we call it that.
Not sure why they choose the

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verbiage of it.
So yeah, it's extensively, you

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know, you have to go into the
community and and work and.

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Either you know, you're cleaning
the sides of roads or in their

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case they're they're going into
I think an old school and and

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trying to renovate it.
Yeah, and you know, I I'm going

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to fully admit here and not be
embarrassed about it, but I had

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to have the subtitles on for
this full film because the

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Scottish brogue, the very like
working class class region was

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tough, Yeah.
Yeah, same if you watch

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Trainspotting.
Most, most folks over the the

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side of the pond will turn on
subtitles and if it's tough

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without it, because there's a
lot of kind of colloquialism,

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slang, that kind of stuff.
So yeah, I could understand it

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because I lived there, but I I
fully get where you're coming

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from.
Yeah, and so for anyone who's

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going to watch this bill bump
around, don't be afraid to turn

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on those subtitles people.
It's it's totally OK.

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But so sort of by the next.
Jump right into the story after

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the opening credits were were
deduced to Harry, who's the man

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who is in charge of everybody
doing their community service

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and he's checking people in.
And of course Robbie's leg has

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to like almost beg to get on the
team because he doesn't want to

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go back to jail.
And it's also the same day that

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Leonie, played by Siobhan Riley
is having his baby.

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Of course Leonie is also from a,
you know, pseudo crime family

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and Leonie's.
Father and brothers kick the

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ever loving shit out of Robbie
at the hospital for even daring

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to show up to his son's birth.
Which is funny, kind of, but

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also it's tragic, but kind of
funny because it's kind of like,

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yeah, he's a piece of shit, but
they they don't want him there.

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And I can see his.
I can see Leonie's father's and

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brother's point of view very
easily.

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Yeah, Even though they're part
of a crying family themselves,

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Yeah.
Yeah, there's a certain, there's

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a certain element of irony in
there that you know they they're

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successful gangsters and and he
like street street level kind of

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guy who they have no respect for
and doesn't doesn't want their

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family being involved with him.
And sort of the, the beauty of

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us as well as like Leonie's
father does come back later.

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And you know, he still plays it
to the story in a more human

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way, but we'll get to that.
But basically, Harry takes him

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home.
You know, cleans up his bloody

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face and broken ribs and sits
him down in his in his kitchen.

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And you know, he finds out that,
you know, you only did have a

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son, Luke, And Harry being, you
know, a very nice older

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gentleman like we have to
celebrate.

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And this is where the whiskey is
interested in a story.

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And actually, he pulls down a
bottle of Spring Bank 32 like

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it's just on the shelf in his
kitchen.

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He's like you said, that's like
a 5-6 grand bottle.

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You know, something amazingly
rare.

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Like if if you pulled that out
when I was at your house, I'd

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just be like, you're not going
to open that, right?

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Yeah, yeah.
I actually went online to see if

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you could buy here in the United
States.

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I only found one retailer in Los
Angeles who are selling it.

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I think they're selling it for
16,000.

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Here in the US, but in the day,
you know you can pick it up.

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Pick it up for a thrifty like 6.
K Thrifty 6K, but this is so

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this is sort of you know, the
inciting instrument.

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This is where you know Robbie
first has a breed of real

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whiskey and it it it seems like
he's never even had whiskey

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before.
Because again, you know the

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these kids, these you know,
young people are coming from

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such poverty that the idea of
like you know going down to the

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pub and having a a weed ram is
just not in their reality at

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all.
Yeah.

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And so, you know, he of course,
thinks it tastes like dirt.

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And then Harry very, you know,
kind of was like, no, give it

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time.
He puts a little drop of water

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in there.
He opened up and sort of, you

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know, the the film kind of moves
on where it's, you know, of

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course, you know what the film's
about.

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It's called the Angel's Share.
You all bought into the concept.

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Watch it.
But it it isn't like Harry's not

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there to, like, drive it into
him or anything.

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He just wants to celebrate,
which is I found him a nice

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scene.
Yeah, I would, I would say that

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they that the Neds.
And and it's alluded to in the

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film a few times.
They actually referenced it a

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few times in the film.
They drink Bug fast.

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And if you've ever been to
Scotland then you will see bug

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fast in in many a store, liquor
store, convenience store.

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And it's a fortified wine made
by Benedictine monks in southern

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England.
But it's only really in the the

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the kind of central belt of
Scotland that young.

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Teenagers drink it and it's it's
full of caffeine.

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It's nickname is either Bucky or
Buckaroo and and it's notorious.

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Yeah, yeah.
That sounds very dangerous,

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especially when you said
caffeine.

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Yeah, yeah, I And you know, it
was sort of, I guess, kind of

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like Bad Dog 2020, but with
caffeine in it or something like

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that.
Or boom.

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Yeah, they're they're they're of
the same elk.

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Right after, sorry.
So after that we sort of, you

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know, luckily Robbie goes and
meets his son and Leonie's like

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kind of get your shit together,
please.

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And basically the next scene is
a big is a big set piece where

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Harry on their day off, because
all of his Nets were, you know,

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doing good work, he's taking
them to a distillery as a

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special sort of visit just to
show them something nice in the

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world, which again, Harry seems
like.

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The nicest guy on the planet,
basically.

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Like he's truly devoted to you
know, giving people who are down

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on their like a chance.
And so they go to.

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Glen going.
Yeah, yeah.

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The other Glen going but inside
is Deanston, so.

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Yeah, yeah, the mash ton that
they walk around is Deanston and

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then right.
And then when they taste from

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the barrel, it's it's Deanson as
well.

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So yeah, a bit of a kind of kind
of a hodgepodge going on there

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and and weirdly, my, my friend
Brendan.

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Used to run Deanston Distillery.
In fact the last time I was back

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in Scotland I got I got a tour
around there.

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A bit fascinating distillery run
by hydroelectricity as well, but

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the only distillery in Scotland
that is.

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Right.
That's fast.

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Yes.
Yeah.

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See that we're learning.
I had no idea Deanston was run

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by Hydra.
That's incredible.

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But this this sort of set piece
is crucial because we kind of

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really the gang comes together
in this point where the

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character MO Jasmine Riggins,
who we saw in the credits.

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Was in court for Eddie theft and
then Rhino played by William

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Rain who's sort of like, I don't
know like big sort of blokey guy

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like, but kind of like nice and
jokey.

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And then Albert played by Cherry
Maitland who's a very a very

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simple young man.
That's not that he's.

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Fraud and Trainspotting.
Right, right.

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It's the bud.
Yeah, there we go.

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Yeah.
And so and it's there.

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You know there's a lot of this
is played for comedy during

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these scenes too.
You know, they're they're

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talking about how cute the the
host is that's walking them

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around and they're, you know,
they're having a whiskey tasting

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and they don't know they can't
smell anything.

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But then also at the end of the
scene when they are having

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whiskey tasting, you kind of see
that they do kind of start

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taking it seriously.
Like, you know, Rhino and Robbie

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are actually saying things that
they smell like, I think.

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MO says it smells like a stats
breath when he was a kid, and

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like Rhydo says it smells like
his this old pup down at the end

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of the street.
And Robbie says it smells like

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Christmas pudding his nan made
once.

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And so it's look like they're
taking it kind of seriously,

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which is kind of cool at that
point, you know?

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Yeah, it's the it's the first
point in there that you really

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start to see like real whiskey
vernacular comes.

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And them having this kind of
like sensory awakening, I guess,

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where they're tasting the
whiskey seriously for the first

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time, because the first time you
see Robbie drinking it is the

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springback 32 and he doesn't
like it, even though it's a

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phenomenal whiskey.
He doesn't.

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He didn't like it because he did
his palate, wasn't accustomed to

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it because he had been drinking
other things up to that point.

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So it's a far departure in terms
of flavour profile.

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But then you see them go to the
distillery and then they kind of

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had this.
It's kind of epiphany, I

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suppose.
Yeah.

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And it's it's a nice thing
because I feel like it is very

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indicative of things we've seen
1000 times in our line of work

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where people have that almost
like, no, I do smell that

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Christmas cake from, you know,
my grandma's Christmas.

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And I do remember that.
It's making me remember that pup

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from the end of the street and
you know, when I was on that

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trip or wherever.
And it's nice to see because

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that is literally how it starts.
Like it isn't about, oh, I'm

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getting, you know, asparagus and
Stilton cheese and all these,

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like, refined flavour nose.
No, it's it's about finding

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those little memories or
unlocking them through the

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profile, Yeah.
And it's very honest, very real.

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I see that a lot with my job as
well, people having those light

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bulb moments and and then they
they start to suggest things and

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it's the first time that they've
probably done it.

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So it's like the basic building
blocks.

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It's like.
To get vanilla, it's a very

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common one.
Fruitcake, which they obviously

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referenced in that film as well,
and these things.

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And then you start to see them
get more and more confident with

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it.
And that's one of the things I

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genuinely love about my job is
where you start to see people

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getting excited about it because
they're not only discovering

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something new, they're
discovering how how evocative it

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is to them and then how they
describe it.

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And that's just the gateway for
them.

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So, so many people at the end of
tastings and stuff that I do

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kind of walk away from it with a
with a genuine new respect for

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for whiskey and also that thirst
for learning because they want

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to try other things, because
they all taste it, as you know,

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they all taste so different.
So it's kind of them kind of

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going down the rabbit hole,
which is wonderful.

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Yeah.
And so sort of building on that.

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So MO, actually, because she's
such a kleptomaniac, she steals

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a whole bunch of miniatures from
the distillery.

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And obviously, you know,
Robbie's smart enough to hear

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the bottles flanking in her bag.
And I I love the line she gives

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when he calls her out before
they get the bad.

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And she's just like, what?
It's so easy in there, But I

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couldn't know it.
But she's like, I don't even

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like whiskey.
Do you want them?

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And instead they go back to
Robbie's, you know, shithole

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apartment and they do a whiskey
tasting, you know, and Robbie,

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MO, Rhino and Albert sit around
and like and Robbie sort of

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leading the way because he got
some books from the library and

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they have a sort of like, you
know, you can tell that, you

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know, they do kind of care.
Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, that.
There's a pretty disgusting part

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of that as well.
Yeah, that scene's capped off

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this.
A gag induced scene show.

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Robbie's flatmates, who like his
flat, is a shit bowl like his

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bed is a small mattress on the
floor with the lamp without a

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shade.
His his flatmate is an alcoholic

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to the point where he needs hair
of the dog so bad he chugs the

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spitter from their whiskey
tasting, and there's a scene

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before that that sets that up to
make it even more gay.

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Can do.
See that?

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Let the audience discover for
themselves.

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Yeah, but this is sort of where,
you know, the the, the, the film

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sort of turns, right?
So back to reality for Robbie.

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Like yeah, that's nice he act,
which will decelerate all this.

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But like he's got a rival,
another St. gang of, you know,

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young thugs led by this guy
Clancy, played by Scott Kyle.

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They basically chase Robbie down
in the streets that are about to

443
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,920
beat his ass down.
When Leona, his father, shows up

444
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,960
in his Land Cruiser, of course,
and rescues him from the scene,

445
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,640
but with some tough love where
he he takes them to round a

446
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,480
corridor.
And you know, there's a whole

447
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,680
bunch of probably more neds, if
you will, hanging out, sort of

448
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,720
scrapping, drinking, you know,
doing their thing.

449
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:03,960
And he's like, look at them
badly.

450
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,640
You are never going to escape
this.

451
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,320
You cannot stay here.
They are always going to.

452
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,960
They're always going to treat
you like this.

453
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,200
You're out.
You're like you're just in a

454
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,720
cycle.
You can't get out of unless you

455
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,720
leave and then offers Robbie a
chance to go to London.

456
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,840
He'll give him £5000, get the
hell out of there and just start

457
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,320
over.
But he has to leave his daughter

458
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:29,120
behind and it is a ridiculous
proposition because like you

459
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:32,240
know he doesn't want to leave
his son and the only behind.

460
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,400
But also like, it tells him
something very important that

461
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,360
comes up later.
He is in a he is in a spiral he

462
00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:40,160
cannot get out of.
It's too late for him in

463
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,480
Glasgow.
Yeah.

464
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,520
Yeah it's kind of it's kind of
like the the Glaswegian version

465
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,240
of Sophie's Choice.
It's suppose right.

466
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,400
Yeah I'll I'll be at less train
stations and Nazis.

467
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,240
But it's it's it's a it's a
tough decision for him but

468
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:04,040
ultimately you know you you see
his fortitude come through and

469
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,320
he he wants to stay with his
girlfriend and his baby.

470
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:12,120
So yeah, like he can't
compromise his, his, you know,

471
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,160
but is obsessively his wife I
guess and his and his child.

472
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,320
But that seed is planted
correctly where it's like, yeah,

473
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:27,200
you want to keep them but you
can't stay here bro, which I

474
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,040
think he's smart to recognize as
the story sort of progresses And

475
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:37,040
then well, whole back half of
the film is kind of a a fairy

476
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:42,760
tale heist almost.
Yeah, but it's it's segued in

477
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,920
when when they all go to
Edinburgh together on and then

478
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,080
end up a whiskey tasting.
And I feel like that that's

479
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,520
where it starts to to kind of be
off.

480
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,560
There's a there's a nice comedic
beach where Harry and the crew

481
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,680
is at a cemetery and they're
cleaning it up just, you know,

482
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,440
as you do because it's part of
their community service and

483
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,640
Harry comes over in front of
everyone else.

484
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,840
So kind of on in and ask Robbie
if you'd like to go to

485
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,400
Edinborough to whiskey tasting
and those like, oh, I'll come

486
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,200
too.
And then right.

487
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,640
And Albert just wander over and
be like, oh, we're Harry's

488
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,840
taking us to Edinborough.
And it's a nice comedic scene.

489
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,560
We've seen it 100 times where
Harry's like sort of, you know,

490
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,760
accidentally goaded into taking
the whole crew.

491
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,120
But it it's a nice, it's a nice
funny scene and that gets us to

492
00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:37,240
Edinborough and that gets us to
a very, very famous whiskey man

493
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,680
and a good old friend of yours,
Charlie.

494
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,840
Yeah, Charlie McLean, yeah.
So Charlie and I first met at

495
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,400
Royal Royal Lochngar Distillery
in D side a long time ago.

496
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,160
Diageo at that point had a
internal education course called

497
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,000
the Malt Advocate where you
would go and do an internship

498
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,760
and then travel around Scotland
with with a industry mentor.

499
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,800
And he he was the industry
mentor of that trip.

500
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,520
I did that trip multiple times.
And they vacillated between

501
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,080
Charlie and and Dave Broom,
another very famous whiskey

502
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,760
writers they had.
They had phenomenal talent

503
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,120
taking people around Scotland
and if they had any questions or

504
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,040
anything on history, whether or
not it was, you know, Diageo

505
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,160
distilleries or any distillery,
then they were.

506
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,120
They were a font of knowledge.
So that's when we first met.

507
00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:30,640
So we travelled around Scotland
together and and got to know

508
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,600
each other and what a, what a
phenomenal human being he is.

509
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,840
As his knowledge of whiskey is
just incredible.

510
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,840
Yeah, none really.
And that's why I sort of love

511
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,720
this film as one of a slice of
life film.

512
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,200
Ken Loach slice of life film,
but also as a whiskey film

513
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:57,360
because it didn't cut any
corners like it got like be

514
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,080
whiskey expert, you know.
And Charlie can actually be in

515
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,960
the film and and to, you know,
consult on the film to make sure

516
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,960
that, you know, things were
respected and done correctly in

517
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,480
a way that still made sense to a
casual viewer.

518
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,760
Right.
And so gets this film, this,

519
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,440
this sort of realism that it
just draws you in more.

520
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,840
And that's what I that's what I
appreciate about it.

521
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,160
Yeah.
And the other great thing about

522
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,120
that is that Charlie isn't
acting in that film.

523
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:31,440
CC in that film, if you've ever
met him, he's he's kind of

524
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:36,120
larger than life character.
And and that that's that's

525
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,120
basically who he plays.
He just plays himself.

526
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,520
So he had.
He had the easiest gig ever,

527
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,040
Yeah.
Where he just got up there and

528
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,960
and talked about talked about
whiskey.

529
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,400
They actually referenced
Dragonmore in that scene as

530
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,040
well.
We do a blank taste thing and he

531
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,280
asked which one.
He asked the Robbie when he gets

532
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,880
up on up on the front, they have
a few people who they have to

533
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,520
guess which whiskey they're
blank tasting.

534
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,440
And I think he says Clint
Barkless or Dragonmore.

535
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,680
And so yeah, and it was Dragon
War, but he had guessed Glenn

536
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,680
Fortless and and Charlie had
guessed correctly.

537
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,280
So there's there's little kind
of comedy and light hearted

538
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,560
moment there.
But again, it's just kind of

539
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:20,360
reinforcing not not only the
credibility of the film where

540
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,840
they got a real expert and but
also the point that the main

541
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,960
character, Robbie, is actually
getting more and more.

542
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,040
Knowledgeable and being able to
pinpoint fairly accurately, you

543
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,440
know, regions and styles of
whiskey.

544
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,320
Absolutely.
And this is a little bit of

545
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,240
where the fairy tale starts.
Because right after that scene

546
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,600
character played by Rodger
Allum, another great chapter

547
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,240
whiskey collector, Thaddeus
comes up to Robbie and hands him

548
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,360
his business card in case he
ever wants to chat.

549
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,920
That's like, oh, I wish, you
know millionaires walk up to

550
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,840
begin do that sometimes.
But you know that does happen

551
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,880
too.
It's and that sort of was what

552
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,760
then propels us to the rest of
the film, which is the heist of

553
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,640
a malt mill cast, because
Charlie's character mentions

554
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,760
that that there's this priceless
cast that's coming up for for

555
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,840
auction soon.
And what happens then is Robbie

556
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:21,440
and crew go back home and Robbie
slowly starts thinking about a

557
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,000
plan.
And then you see him go with

558
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,800
Leonie, his his girlfriend and
baby, to go look at a possible

559
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,480
flat for them to rent for six
months.

560
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,920
And in doing that he sees one of
Clancy's men has been following

561
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,160
him.
So he what Leonie's father said

562
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,280
about him never being able to
get away in Glasgow sinks in in

563
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,240
the fact that even if he moved
to this nice flat with Leonie,

564
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,080
Clancy already knows where he is
and he's going to come for him

565
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,040
no matter what.
And that's when Robbie's like,

566
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,320
OK, I need enough money to get
out.

567
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,000
I know about this small bill
thing.

568
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,080
He prings MO, Albert and Rhino
together and they start hatching

569
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:03,640
their plan.
And their plan is they're going

570
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,880
to hike their way up or
hitchhike their way up to back

571
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,240
up to the Highlands.
They're going to camp up there.

572
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,160
They're going to go to the
auction, the Malt Mill auction,

573
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,680
as huge whiskey fans, the
Whiskey Club, and they're able

574
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,000
to use saving when I, you know,
it's as important as landing on

575
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,160
the moon to them, this auction
of a a malt mill.

576
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,320
And they're going to get some of
that whiskey and they're going

577
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,400
to, they're going to fence it.
And then that's what the film

578
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,520
becomes, and it's sort of.
Disguised in kilts?

579
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,920
Yes, disguised in kilts that
they're not even wearing

580
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:43,640
correctly, it's pointed out.
Yeah, and and even, weirdly,

581
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,480
even more weirdly.
And the distillery?

582
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,880
That's.
Got this Malt mill isn't even on

583
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,120
Isla.
It's Bow Blair Distillery, which

584
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,960
is up northern in the Highlands
of Scotland, Right.

585
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,440
Right.
Yeah, it's what I found that

586
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,400
funny too.
It's like, why is it up there?

587
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,480
But maybe they found that it's
just like I said, it gets a

588
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,600
little fairy tale ish in this
this section, which is fine

589
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,400
because it's it's sort of, you
know, it's a, it's a fun heist

590
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,640
wherein, you know, four friends
on the road, you know, they're

591
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,400
meeting people, they're
hitchhiking, they're having a

592
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,960
good time.
You know, Albert's of course,

593
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,960
being gross and dumb, which is,
you know, all the comedy beats

594
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,320
you want.
And they do genuinely earnestly

595
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,360
talk their way into the auction
and the tasting.

596
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,480
And you know, Charlie shows back
up to do the B single tasting of

597
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:39,960
the barrel and then literally go
right into them, into the hives

598
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:45,440
where they've set up plans for
Robbie to stay inside.

599
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,480
There's a little crack in the
window where they put the hose

600
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,360
through.
They put the hose into the

601
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,360
whiskey barrel.
They start filling up iron brew

602
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,120
bottles.
I have a question, how big were

603
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,800
those bottles?
Were they one litre?

604
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,000
2 litre?
Iron brew bottles, Yeah, that's

605
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,640
a great question.
I actually know I they'd

606
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,680
probably be around about, I
don't know, like 700 mils,

607
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,080
right?
So basically a whiskey bottle,

608
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,000
right?
Yeah, yeah.

609
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,080
So it's pretty much one to one
for a whiskey bottle.

610
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,480
Yeah, yeah, I would.
I would actually need to Google

611
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,480
it, but yeah, they're around
about the same size, right?

612
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,679
It's not like A2 litre.
No, no.

613
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,719
And this is where we sort of see
that Robbie's, he is actually

614
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,480
pretty smart.
You know, we've seen him study

615
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,719
and stuff like that and
obviously he's got a he's got a

616
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,560
little bit of a ability or a
palette to develop.

617
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,560
But while he's sightseeing off
whiskey, Thaddeus comes back in

618
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,840
with the head of the distillery
and he gets himself a little nip

619
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:51,280
to actually taste it and offers
the head of the distillery a

620
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,239
chance to hey, I can get 3
bottles, I can sell them and we

621
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,080
can make some money.
Head of the distillery says he

622
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,400
doesn't have the nerve for it.
Robbie listens to all this and

623
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,920
we are already seeing that.
Robbie's already taking a little

624
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:08,600
100 mil bottle for himself and
now he knows that Thaddeus has

625
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,560
actually had the whiskey from
that barrel.

626
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:15,120
So once they leave, you know
Robbie very again, I found this

627
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,800
very funny.
He he fills up Iron Group

628
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,240
bottles from other barrels and
just refills the barrel with.

629
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:27,440
It's random, I guess, Paul
Blair, which, yeah, I found that

630
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,800
very funny.
Yeah, thus, thus ostensibly

631
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,560
teaspooning it and and making it
not worthless, but certainly not

632
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,960
the value that they they allude
to in the film.

633
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,360
Right.
And it pays off very well later.

634
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,560
But yeah, so the next day the
auction happens and you know,

635
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,680
Robbie sort of comes out of the
shadows with the rest of the

636
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:55,800
crew and there's a bidding war.
This, you know, dude from Boston

637
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,440
ends up winning Or Connecticut,
but he's got a Boston hat on,

638
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,880
pays over 1.1 million.
Of course they open the barrel

639
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,000
and this pays off wonderfully.
Cases like, oh, it's amazing, of

640
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,200
course.
And I feel like we've both been

641
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,640
in situations like that as well,
where, you know, somebody

642
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,080
tastes.
The whiskey they're told is

643
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,440
amazing, and of course it's
amazing because they're crying

644
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,640
for it.
So you sort of see that in

645
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:22,200
spades?
Yeah, that I I found.

646
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,600
I found that that whole scene
quite, quite interesting.

647
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,000
It was like.
I don't know why he took the guy

648
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,320
into the warehouse, just to give
him a drama of it.

649
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,440
I don't know what he thought was
going to happen there, but he

650
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,080
just thought it was going to end
there and he was doing kindness.

651
00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:43,960
And then, you know, he basically
offered, offers him hard cash

652
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,360
for three bottles that he's
going to then give give to a

653
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:52,080
collector and you know, fair
play to the distillery manager

654
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:57,080
where he says no, no, but he's
already there Like if you

655
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,640
already brought him in like and
you know, this guy is like

656
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,200
representing collectors like you
got to kind of know there's

657
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,560
some, yeah.
I know, I know what they were

658
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,280
trying to do.
It was like a set piece of

659
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,920
intrigue and they waited, they
waited, they Robbie, to overhear

660
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,320
what was going on.
So he saw the financial

661
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,160
opportunity.
So yes, a little, a little bit

662
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,720
of convenience, but it it works
in AI can say the fairy tale

663
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:25,080
sort of way.
But yeah, then so Robbie very

664
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,280
smartly tracks Thaddeus down at
a bar.

665
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,920
You know, sits down direct, you
know, no bullshit.

666
00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:33,640
Pours him a little bit out of
that fifty mil he took for

667
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,480
himself.
Thaddeus instantaneously knows

668
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,480
what it is because he just sat
at 9:00 to 4:00 and he makes a

669
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:46,280
deal and basically all Robbie
and crew have to do is get home

670
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:51,520
to Glasgow.
And then the the tragedy of Ken

671
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,400
Loach Sort of seeing sin.
It's not as like, again, not as

672
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,680
tragic as most and Loach films,
because I feel like had he been

673
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,240
in a different mood, none of
that was he could have made it.

674
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,040
Yeah, on a on a scale of 1 to
Loach, it was pretty low.

675
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,000
On the nihilism scale, it was.
It was at three out of, yeah.

676
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:18,080
Yeah.
So, yeah, so they they basically

677
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,840
cut back and they're already
back in Glasgow.

678
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,080
But, you know, as soon as
they're walking down the street,

679
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,360
of course the cops stop them
because they're known criminals,

680
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,240
all of them.
And they go through their bags

681
00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:31,440
and they, you know, pack them
down and then they, maybe you

682
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,720
can speak to this.
But they, they, the other men,

683
00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:37,040
show them their, their genitals
in their butt underneath the

684
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,600
kilt.
And then it's what's happening.

685
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,720
Yeah.
So there, there's this thing in

686
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:46,880
Scotland.
If you're a true Scotsman, you

687
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,640
you don't wear underwear
underneath your kilt.

688
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:55,160
And and I think, I think it was
just a bit of a comedic set

689
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,240
again where they they had to
show underneath their kilts.

690
00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:03,280
Thankfully they don't show it.
No, just leave them from behind.

691
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,520
And then there's there's like
another comedic moment there

692
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,480
with the the one of the
policemen's disgusted by what I

693
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,240
think and what not.
But yeah.

694
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:17,480
And then and then and then we
get the the tragedy moment,

695
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:22,680
which I'll let you talk about.
So as we mentioned, you know,

696
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:28,720
Albert is boisterous but also
bit of a klutz, leave it at

697
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:31,680
that.
And he's holding one of the Iron

698
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,000
Brew bottles and he's the old
tool glass bottles, So they're

699
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,600
not, they're not plastic.
And he's sort of like shouting

700
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,440
after your tops being like,
yeah, you don't know what I've

701
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,080
had.
And he goes to cheers the bottle

702
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,520
with with MO, who's also holding
the glass bottle of Iron Brew.

703
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,520
And as they cheers, old bottles
just disintegrate in a crash and

704
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,160
the whiskey's gone.
Yeah, so out of four bottles

705
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,600
that they filled, I think we
have two.

706
00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:59,960
And it is a devastating moment.
Like MO is just sitting there

707
00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:02,920
like frozen, shocked with
whiskey all over her, a glass in

708
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:08,040
her hand and obviously Rhino and
Robbie not too pleased.

709
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,240
Now that's an understatement.
There's some, There's some spicy

710
00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:23,480
Laswegian banter and that's.
But always got lost, thankfully.

711
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,120
Not lost well and also Albert
had fisted.

712
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,800
Lee has a point or makes a point
that you know well.

713
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,440
If 4 bottles were priceless, 2
bottles must be more priceless

714
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:40,600
as the gist of his point And
it's not wrong but he's kind of

715
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,920
an asshole still because it's
just like it's such a such an on

716
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,160
forced error to destroy those
two bottles.

717
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,360
But.
Anyway, Robbie's still meeting

718
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,080
with Thaddeus at a pub in
Glasgow.

719
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,240
You know, I think Thaddeus is
just so happy to have any of it.

720
00:40:56,720 --> 00:41:00,040
He still gets a deal.
Deal ends up being or 100,000

721
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,440
lbs for one bottle.
Plus Robbie gets a job and so he

722
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,480
directs important job where he,
I think he's working for a

723
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,000
whiskey collector driving around
to the Scottish distilleries

724
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,280
looking for barrels and things
like that and everybody gets

725
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,000
their cuts AT25K each and as a
sort of.

726
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,000
Like nice cherry on top.
We realized, well, there were

727
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,680
two bottles.
We only sold one.

728
00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:26,440
The final bottle.
You see Harry come home to his

729
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,480
flat and waiting on his desk is
the final bottle.

730
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,120
And then they've given it to
Harry Wood.

731
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,800
And Robbie writes a note, you
know, thanking him and saying

732
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,680
thank you for leaving it and
giving me a chance.

733
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,040
And you know, Harry pours, pours
a DRAM for himself and then go

734
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:45,120
back to Robbie in his now new in
the VW vintage camper van that

735
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,040
he's got for work.
He's loading up Leonie and Luke

736
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,800
his his old friend and son says
goodbye to the crew.

737
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,360
You'll watch him drive away and
they actually, hey, let's go get

738
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,640
drunk.
And you kind of know there's Ken

739
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,360
loads coming in again where
you're like all three of them

740
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,520
are going to go through that 25
grand in about a weekend and be

741
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,320
back to 21.
And Robbie and family drive off

742
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:11,520
into the Scottish Ray sunset.
It's a fun, fun fact, Zach.

743
00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:15,320
The scene, that scene with the
camper van, where they're where

744
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,240
they go off.
I used to live on that street.

745
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,840
Oh my God.
Yeah, it's incredible.

746
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,760
Yeah.
Jedburg Gardens, North Carolina

747
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:30,200
side, Glasgow right side.
Yeah, I live in that street.

748
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,440
Yeah, it's incredible.
And I mean it is a happy ending.

749
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:39,040
Like Robbie rides off into the
sunset with his his girlfriend

750
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,800
and son and you know they
they've done what they come to

751
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,560
do.
He's got a life out of him.

752
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:48,120
He's going to Sterling, I think.
And yeah, it's, it's it's kind

753
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,600
of a happy film, I'm not going
to lie.

754
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,000
I had a little tear in my eye
when Harry came home and saw

755
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,040
that bottle sitting there.
You know, it's it's a very nice

756
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,920
ending.
It's and it's a nice film that I

757
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,000
know I used the word fairy tale
for the high section, but

758
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,600
there's nothing unrealistic
about it.

759
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,920
Like there it, it is all very,
very grounded in reality.

760
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:12,320
And you know how?
Yeah, the way that it ends, you

761
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,840
know, there's like a genuine
sense of hope that he is going

762
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,920
to turn his life around and you
know, be be the father that he

763
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,760
promised that he would be to his
girlfriend.

764
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,080
And he's not.
He's been given a second chance

765
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,600
and a very and a very rare
opportunity and he's going to

766
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,720
work in the whiskey industry
that he now loves.

767
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,400
But yeah, the the back end of
it, you know the the the spine

768
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,280
of the back of the movie is and
we said this at the beginning is

769
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,520
that ultimately crime pays at
the end.

770
00:43:45,720 --> 00:43:49,440
Yeah, I mean there's there's
more details we left out.

771
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,520
You know, with the sort of a
crime in Glasgow.

772
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,400
And you know what you see we as
in sort of getting back to the

773
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,760
initial point where he's been
getting a lot of chances like he

774
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,240
has been to prison or being
another kid in the streets.

775
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,480
And you see that and he has to
sort of confront that as well.

776
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:10,000
So there are more details that
make this Bury, Ken, Loach and

777
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,560
Bury.
You know, cutting to the bone.

778
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,400
But the overall story, it is
happy ending.

779
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,320
It is a fun whiskey story and
you actually do learn a little

780
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,280
bit about the whiskey world in
Scotland and there's a lot of

781
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,320
laughs and he said, I I'm not
going to lie, I watched it stay

782
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,920
and there was a tear in my eye
that scene with Barry at the end

783
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,680
and so I I find that to be a
successful film.

784
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,120
You know, you you're it's
emotional, but it's also fun.

785
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,080
But it's also, you know, yeah.
Mostly away from it.

786
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,720
Most of the time when you talk
about Ken Loach films you

787
00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:45,640
wouldn't use the word charming.
Don't feel like you could use

788
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:50,640
that that word here quite easily
and and because it is you know

789
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,600
the end of the day it's it's
like a happy ending and no one's

790
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,360
hurt and you know it.
It kind of just tails off of

791
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,440
them going off into the sunset.
Not not that you ever see the

792
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,000
sun in Scotland.
But if there weren't sun they'd

793
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,040
be going off into the sunset.
We.

794
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,920
Had to sunlight once or twice a
year, but yeah.

795
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:16,560
Well, let's let's go off into
the Highlands ourselves here and

796
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,760
this.
And you know, you probably hear

797
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,760
people like me say this a lot
just because of the child, but I

798
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,760
have.
But this is legitimately one of

799
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:30,720
my favorite all time whiskeys,
and that's Mortlock 20 and.

800
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,800
This is something I do
legitimately sit at home, like

801
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,880
when I do reach for whiskey.
This is one of them that I do

802
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,120
reach for.
House.

803
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:45,760
For a team would be up there as
well and it's what I love about

804
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,640
the Mortlock 20.
I'll let you explain it more is

805
00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:53,720
it is so approachable, so just
beautifully sippable even meet.

806
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,400
Like would have poured over a
rock.

807
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,280
I'm not going to stop you but
like experiencing it neat.

808
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:03,120
You get this sense of place so
well and I feel like I love

809
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,600
pairing it with this film
because in this film you get a

810
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,120
sense of place so well.
Like get a piece of Glasgow you

811
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,320
could normally see especially as
a tourist you get it, you know

812
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,520
you get the sense of Scotland
and the whiskey community in

813
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,200
Scotland and I feel like with
this more like when you

814
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,720
immediately get that sense of
place of more locked and island.

815
00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:21,600
So.
So I'll let you take it from

816
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,000
here.
All right.

817
00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:27,880
More than happy to, OK.
I mean, pull my court back in

818
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,720
here.
Yeah, so more like.

819
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:36,560
Obviously I have a huge soft
spot for this distillery.

820
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,520
I was born 250 feet away from
it.

821
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,560
Oh wow, almost the well.
I turned 50 next Saturday.

822
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:51,360
So 1973, born in the Stevenson
Cottage Hospital, which George

823
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,000
Kelly and his wife, they they
were actually chairman and

824
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,200
chairwoman of of that hospital.
They laid the foundation stone.

825
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,400
All that.
So I have, I have a fairly

826
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,280
strong connection to this
distillery.

827
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,280
First time I ever tasted more
like though was back in the

828
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:15,040
early 1990s, and it was actually
this the old more like 16.

829
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:20,480
Who will care which is part of
the the old flora and fauna rage

830
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,680
like you made in 1992.
That ball so discontinued now

831
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,760
but we do have a new version of
of the 16 which is very close to

832
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,000
that And why did I like it?
I liked it because of the depth

833
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,920
of flavor.
What is the P side?

834
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,920
Whiskeys are are lighter, more
floral orchard fruits and and

835
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,680
they're obviously very
delicious.

836
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,760
But if you're looking for
something with more kind of

837
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:48,080
grip, more Sherry influence
because that 16 was all in first

838
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,560
fell all or also Sherry barrels,
then you're going to get a

839
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,200
little bit more of a tannic note
to it, certainly more of a

840
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:58,040
fruity note to it, more like.
He's also known for having a

841
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:03,120
heavy kind of sulfury quality to
it now and that comes about in

842
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,800
in different ways, but we do a
very unique distillation at that

843
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,920
distillery which equates to
2.81.

844
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,840
We don't really have enough time
to go into the distillation, but

845
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,560
ostensibly what we do is a a
double distillation on 2 cells

846
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,960
and we split wash on wash cells
two and three.

847
00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:24,560
First 80% goes into spirit still
#2 so that's like a quasi triple

848
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,760
distillation.
So we're producing a a multi

849
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,840
spirit and we're producing a
floral spirit and then we have

850
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,760
the Wee Witchy and if people
talk about more like the oldest

851
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,720
reference the Wee Witchy, the
remainder 20% of those two buy

852
00:48:36,720 --> 00:48:40,920
that wash cells go into it.
We do 2 dud runs and then we do

853
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,360
a a third run where we're taking
both heads and tails from those

854
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:49,440
worst stills and that produced
the heavy rich almost boom mammy

855
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,280
savory character all go through
traditional worm tubs.

856
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,600
Those three different liquids
are then married together and

857
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:02,280
that's what goes into barrel.
So the math of it is 2.81 when

858
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,600
you add it all up.
Someone far more intelligent

859
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,400
than me came up with that
equation.

860
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,440
So yeah, it's it's a very weird,
unique distillery.

861
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,640
We don't know where that concept
came from.

862
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:19,080
It was Alexander Cowie
implemented it in 1896 when he

863
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,080
took over the distillery when
his father retired.

864
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,560
And we have no idea where he got
the concept from.

865
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,080
None.
Part of the reason is when he

866
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:31,960
sold the distillery in the early
1920s, he destroyed all of his

867
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,160
records.
Yeah, he just, he sold it to the

868
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,520
Walker family.
They love that whiskey so much

869
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,120
they wanted to own the
distillery, so they bought it.

870
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,240
But yeah, he destroyed all of
his records.

871
00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:48,800
We have a letter from 1936 with
them bemoaning the fact that

872
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,920
Doctor Curry made an
extraordinary decision to

873
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,320
destroy all of his papers.
So.

874
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,640
Yeah, power means.
Yeah, right.

875
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,640
That created all sorts of chaos
because he had been selling to

876
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,760
Macy's prior to Prohibition.
Was Prohibition finished?

877
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,480
Obviously the walkers then owned
it and they went to Macy's to

878
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,640
continue selling them whiskey,
and they did.

879
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,240
No idea what the previous
arrangements were in terms of

880
00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:18,800
how much they paid for it or
anything like that, because

881
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,480
Alexander Cowie destroyed
everything and he wouldn't tell

882
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,960
them either.
He lived right next to the

883
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,760
distillery and he still wouldn't
tell them anything.

884
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,480
So yeah, weird.
What a what a wild story.

885
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:38,040
Yeah, WW nerds love that.
They love that kind of anarchy

886
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,640
that went on their back.
Back at that that time in

887
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,920
whiskey when, you know you
didn't do those kind of things,

888
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,760
it was all like a business deal
was a business deal and there

889
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,160
was a lot of formality to it.
So to have to have him like sell

890
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,080
it to them and then destroy all
the records was extremely

891
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:01,280
unusual.
But yeah, we now today we have

892
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,440
three main expressions for more
like you're available in the

893
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,440
United States.
There's a 12/16 and the one that

894
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:12,480
we're we're going to taste which
is obviously the 20, the the 12

895
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,480
is actually in a combination of
X bourbon and Sherry.

896
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:20,680
The 16 is all first fill Sherry.
The 20 is also all Sherry, but

897
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,240
we're using some refill as well
as first fill in here.

898
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:27,920
So what what are we going to see
here?

899
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,680
Well, it it's got that
quintessential DNA of more like

900
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,280
which is that that heavy rich
umami note.

901
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,800
But then there's a little bit of
red Berry and that that's one of

902
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:45,480
the other thing if you ever like
blind taste or blind nose and

903
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,600
taste more like, then if you get
that kind of almost like red

904
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:54,600
Berry like tartness on the nose,
that's one of the biggest tells

905
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,760
for me If I'm ever doing a
blind.

906
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,840
And then I I come across more
like there's always that little

907
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,480
bit of red red Berry in there.
There's a little bit of a spicy

908
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,080
note.
There's a little bit of almost

909
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:10,320
like bergamot, aromatic citrus
note that comes.

910
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:15,240
For me.
And then at the at the back end

911
00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:19,240
of it, it's it's, it's that
Sherry, it's that all are also

912
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,400
punched.
That fruitcake richness that's

913
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,880
coming through from it.
It's almost.

914
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,280
Like the others, every lobby to
it.

915
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:33,280
Like it is not overly sweet.
Yeah, so that that Mammy

916
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,960
actually comes through mainly on
the wee witchy, but also because

917
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,720
of the fact that we're using
traditional worm tubs.

918
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:45,400
So you've got less copper
contact and copper works as a

919
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:50,000
purifier and the more copper
contact you get, the lighter and

920
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,560
brighter the spirit is.
So the less, the more dense the

921
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,760
flavours are.
And there's there's chemicals

922
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,800
called mirror captains.
And not to get nerdy, but I'm

923
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,280
going to get nerdy and you're
going to get, you're going to

924
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,080
get chemicals like dimethyl and
trimethyl disulphide and they

925
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:09,680
have a kind of heavy, heavy,
meaty sulfury note to them.

926
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,880
And that's where that umami
comes from.

927
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,880
And if you taste old Ben Rennes,
if you taste Daluan from Space

928
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,800
Eye, you're going to get the
same kind of umami effect.

929
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:24,520
In fact, when we just released
Johnny Walker Umami, Blue Label

930
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:29,000
Umami, and it's got both Ben
Rennes and and Mortlick in it,

931
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,960
and that was going to give that
kind of meaty, umami, savoury

932
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,240
characteristic to it.
So on the on the nose and on the

933
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:38,720
palate, it's actually quite
different, whereas you've got

934
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:43,360
that kind of that bergamot, that
red Berry, and then obviously

935
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,800
that that site could have spent
much sulphur.

936
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:56,600
But then on the pallet, it's way
more, way more savoury.

937
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:02,720
And that's really where it's
almost like if you like far and

938
00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:05,920
you get that far broth and then
you can't finish it, and then

939
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,640
you'll take it home and then
you'll strain all the bits out

940
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,960
and then just heat up the broth,
which I do.

941
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,240
Then you get a really nice,
almost like spicy, savoury note,

942
00:54:15,240 --> 00:54:18,440
a little bit of a noose in there
as well.

943
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,080
And that.
And that's why I love about

944
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,640
this.
It's like on the nose, it's a

945
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,680
very different beast.
And then very palette.

946
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,120
You've got way more of that kind
of savoury characteristic, more

947
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,800
of that spicy note.
Still, it's very juicy as well.

948
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,440
Yes, and I'll see it turns the
corners well there.

949
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:39,640
It's quite a ride on the palate,
like 100% on board with the

950
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,120
savouriness up front and that
will.

951
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,320
What's a little bit of like
dried chili spice?

952
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,360
But then on the on the back end
it gets a little creamy and it

953
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,240
gets a little softer and it kind
of starts matching towards

954
00:54:51,240 --> 00:54:55,120
toffee and nuttiness and then
pulls back, if you know what I

955
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,280
mean.
Like it it it there's a layer to

956
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,640
it.
Oh yeah, this is still, this is

957
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,960
still on Peta's wall.
Like, don't worry, we're not

958
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:06,760
going too too off into the
distance here, but it it becomes

959
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,120
this complex chair of ride
through.

960
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,160
Jitter into dessert and then
back again.

961
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,200
Now yeah, it's almost like
you're having your far.

962
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,560
You pop a where there's
originally in your mouth for a

963
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,760
little bit.
Right, freaking out.

964
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,920
Go back, go back to your far.
Also that EBV on this one's got

965
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,800
usual is at 43.4 and we get
asked a lot why.

966
00:55:30,240 --> 00:55:35,040
And the reason is when we when
we sold whiskey to Macy's.

967
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:40,520
When Cowie's originally sold it,
it was at 43.4 when it was sold

968
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,080
in Macy's.
So when they re released it as a

969
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:50,200
heart back to those old days,
they kept the ABV the same 43.4.

970
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,200
Gotcha.
So it's it's classic.

971
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:53,880
Yeah.
Yeah.

972
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,280
So you're you're tasting like
this kind of old old world

973
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:02,480
spirit and and it's a it's an
unusual distillery.

974
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,040
It's got a really rich
interesting history.

975
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,160
It was a it was an old battle
site then it was an Abbey.

976
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,560
At one point there was a secret
church inside one of the

977
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:19,640
warehouses because there there
was a a subset of of religion in

978
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,120
in Scotland called the We Free
Kirk And they were they were

979
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:27,520
quasi persecuted, but there was
like communities all over

980
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,240
Scotland and they they had their
services in one of the

981
00:56:31,240 --> 00:56:34,640
warehouses.
That's crazy yeah so the really

982
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,960
it's a really strange distillery
but that's that's why, that's

983
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,400
why I love it and and they you
have to be very experienced to

984
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,040
work at this distillery as well.
So the people who weren't there

985
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,120
actually have worked at multiple
sites.

986
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,720
The guy, the guy, the guy who
runs it called Andrew Millsop,

987
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,400
very, very nice guy and like a
distilling savant.

988
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,600
And he he's, he's in charge of
that site.

989
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,920
Yeah, it's it's a tricky
distillery to work at because

990
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,800
it's so complex.
And it is.

991
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,960
It comes through and we'll see.
Like going back now to the nose,

992
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:11,400
I get this sort of sense of
almost like a warehouse or where

993
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,720
like the straws been packed into
the clay.

994
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:20,240
And like you get this like sense
of bold, not must, but like the

995
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,760
barrel houses better.
Like like an old cherry barrel

996
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,560
house, honestly.
Where there's that, that tart

997
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,400
fruit is there, but also there
be sure like Christmas cakes are

998
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,120
there and you get this
combination of you know the the

999
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,320
lighter cherries and the older
darker cherries and it all sort

1000
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,960
of is coming together with this
bit of multi base.

1001
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:41,960
And yeah, some people some
people actually make a

1002
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:46,480
comparison between this and old
Jamaican pot still rum where

1003
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,440
you've got that kind of funky
note behind there.

1004
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,480
But we're not we're obviously
not using dunder like they do in

1005
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,760
in Jamaica by playing that kind
of some people see barnyard

1006
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,800
aroma which which I.
Not quite there.

1007
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,200
Oh yeah, it's like the nicest
way of of explaining it.

1008
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:09,000
But yeah, there's like an old
oaky dustiness.

1009
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,520
To that, Yeah, exactly.
It's it's definitely not in the

1010
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,840
barnyard.
I can see where people will go

1011
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,760
that direction.
Yeah, like I said, like that

1012
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,960
straw poundage in the play into
a floor.

1013
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:23,880
But it's it's not funky.
It's just but it's not musty.

1014
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,280
Like it's not.
It doesn't feel like, it's like,

1015
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,480
you know that black mold you get
from a barrel house and

1016
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,480
everything.
It's just like this subtle vibe

1017
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,080
like you're walking through an
old warehouse drinking a really,

1018
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:40,880
really good glass of whiskey and
then taking the 2nd sip again.

1019
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:45,200
The sort of the complexity
really just comes through and.

1020
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,600
Again, I can't overstate the the
creamy end and you get this

1021
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:53,400
little whispering vanilla in the
end in the survey kind of

1022
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,720
telling you where the barrels
were, which barrel, I'm sorry

1023
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,040
which barrels were involved
here, but it's just such a

1024
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,000
night.
I mean, and at the very, very,

1025
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:06,760
very end I get this almost like
a it's not a star fruit, but

1026
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,320
like something where little tiny
bit of like a sharp, savory

1027
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,720
fruit and it's such a nice
journey.

1028
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,280
Yeah, it it really is beautiful.
And every time you go back to

1029
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,360
it, you'll pick out something
else as well.

1030
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,080
For sure, like every every time
I I come to this, I'll pick

1031
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,120
something else.
And this that last sip I got, I

1032
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,040
got a little bit of kind of
tiramazu.

1033
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,560
There was a little bit of like
chocolatey, little bit of

1034
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,680
espresso, but then there's that
creaminess in there.

1035
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:40,880
Yeah, I can see that 100%
especially again I keep going

1036
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,480
back to that creaminess that you
get so nice and.

1037
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,400
Yeah, a little bit of espresso
for sure.

1038
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:51,720
That's really phenomenal pour of
whiskey to the filming whiskey

1039
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,600
listeners if you're still here
with us.

1040
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,000
Thank you.
First of all, but you know this

1041
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,000
is obviously this is a premium
product.

1042
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:03,080
We'll have a premium price.
However, you do see this on

1043
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,200
shelves in liquor stores around
the country.

1044
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,920
It's not something that is
impossible to fight.

1045
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:13,080
So you and just to let you know
at our last episode we sampled a

1046
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,880
very rare release that only.
You know, there's only like 2000

1047
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,120
bottles a year and that's it.
And if you don't get it, you

1048
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,360
don't get it.
This is findable.

1049
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,720
It's got a price tag on it, but
it is findable.

1050
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,560
And so, you know, since this is
the holiday season, you know

1051
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,960
this is the sort of bottle that
would be an amazing gift to a

1052
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,240
whiskey lover because of all the
history that you had just

1053
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,120
mentioned.
You know the this is such a

1054
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,920
insider's distillery that is so
unique.

1055
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,600
Like just the the space is so
unique.

1056
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,760
People are so unique.
Whiskey is so unique.

1057
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:51,000
But this whatever I recommend
more like is or like.

1058
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,320
If you really want to impress a
whiskey nerd, you can have one

1059
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,360
of these.
Yeah, yeah, it definitely sits

1060
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,520
in that that wheelhouse of
immediate credibility.

1061
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:01,640
Yes.
Where if you give them more like

1062
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:06,240
then they they they're like, oh
wow I because they're they're

1063
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,400
used to gang.
Lots of other like more readily

1064
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,280
available whiskeys.
And you give them something

1065
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:17,080
like, you know, morally and you
know, it's it's cult favorite

1066
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,440
for sure.
Absolutely.

1067
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,120
And it and it lives up to that
cold hype.

1068
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,320
I mean, this is one of those
whiskeys that you can go back to

1069
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,040
again and again and you'll find
more nuanced work, depth work,

1070
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,240
beauty.
And I'm so glad we got to drink

1071
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,800
this together.
So let's give our final

1072
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,440
thoughts.
I mean, I'm going to give you my

1073
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,800
final thoughts on the Whiskey
A+.

1074
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:44,640
What did you think of the movie?
I I liked it for and I like I

1075
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,840
said at the beginning for
multiple reasons but also

1076
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:51,680
nostalgia because I I lived in
Glasgow for a for a long period

1077
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,480
of time.
So like seeing places that I saw

1078
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:58,400
on a on a day-to-day basis made
me a little bit, little bit

1079
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,360
homesick, but it was really nice
to see.

1080
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,680
And then they obviously show
that the beauty of the Scottish

1081
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:10,640
landscape, but there as well.
But kind of at the bottom line

1082
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:15,080
of it, it's like it's a movie
with like genuine hope and and I

1083
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,200
suppose that's like the
underlying message is that

1084
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:23,320
there's always hope because it
starts off with desperation and

1085
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:27,320
there's no hope And then he sees
this kind of window opportunity

1086
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,760
and at the end of it you've got
this really nice way that would

1087
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,800
they be kind of tail off and
like I say they they drive off

1088
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,120
to a new life and.
And it's all because of all

1089
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:43,440
because of whiskey, ultimately.
So I really like that, Yeah.

1090
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,040
And you know, I remember seeing
this film back in 2012 in the in

1091
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,880
the theater at the really,
really feeling moved by it.

1092
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:55,480
And of course, having known Ken
Loach, nice to see him have a

1093
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,840
happy ending to a film.
But it is that sort of thing

1094
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:03,040
where I feel, you know, to who
are American film listeners out

1095
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,560
there, You know, if if you don't
know Ken Loach, it's really

1096
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:07,840
worse.
You know, going back and

1097
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,040
watching, you know, the one that
shakes Barley or you know, a

1098
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,240
number of his films.
He's been making movies since

1099
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,200
the 60s.
Everybody, There's a lot out

1100
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,960
there and they are politically
motivated.

1101
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,320
They are, you know, they are
looking at, you know,

1102
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:25,760
impoverished people in the world
and their struggles in in a very

1103
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,800
realistic way.
I think like if you look at

1104
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,200
American film makers, like maybe
Sean Baker sort of does that

1105
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:36,040
with his, you know, Florida Man
films and a little bit of

1106
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,280
Alexander Payne.
But even then it's it's not that

1107
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,840
cutting as as Ken Loach's films
are.

1108
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,320
And if you watch the winner,
Shakespearlie, you get to see a

1109
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:52,560
very fresh faced Florian Murphy.
That's a great yeah, that's a

1110
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,480
we're talking about an ending
not.

1111
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,240
This point, but yeah, not this
morning, but wow 30. 30 The same

1112
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:05,440
feel good.
Movie ending as we do see in

1113
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,360
this angels chair.
No and no.

1114
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,800
I was thinking about this
whiskey and you know, I I've

1115
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:13,280
said this again, but I want to
reiterate it.

1116
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,680
You know, I I love whiskeys that
tell you a story when you sip

1117
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,520
them and and this Morlock 20
tells you a story when you sip

1118
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,560
it.
And I feel like it's a a perfect

1119
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,160
carrying board film.
Like the angels share that you

1120
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,600
feel good at the end of the pool
and so it'll leave it at that.

1121
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,640
And you know, can you tell a
good film and whiskey audience

1122
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,240
where they can find you and how
they can find this wonderful

1123
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,880
whiskey?
Yes, you can.

1124
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:43,400
You can find me on the social
medias at Ewan Morgan there on

1125
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:47,800
on Instagram and you'll you'll
follow my whiskey travels and

1126
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:52,120
see how baristas misspell my
name across across I put I put.

1127
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,160
I post that quite frequently.
I do.

1128
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,200
I do a lot of tastings all over
the country as well.

1129
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,440
Whiskey shows and.
And I also do a lot of private

1130
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:04,160
client work, so I work on
Diagio's Prima and Ultima.

1131
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,520
If you go to
diagiorareandexceptional.com you

1132
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:11,400
will see the full line there.
So that's it from me.

1133
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,720
Yeah.
And I will just you back off

1134
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:19,800
that amazing whiskeys.
Ewan works with amazing whiskey,

1135
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,000
so please follow him.
Follow rare and exceptional.

1136
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:29,200
It is a gateway into some of the
most unique and special stuff

1137
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,160
coming out of Scotland, full
stop right now.

1138
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,440
So please, please give him the
follow up.

1139
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,600
Please, you know, keep an eye on
it, especially if you are really

1140
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,960
wanting to get into some
phenomenal scratches that are

1141
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:44,880
available now from my end.
You know me, I'm Zach Johnston.

1142
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,920
You can find me at ZTP Whiskey
on Instagram.

1143
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,400
Don't do any other social media.
Then you can find me at UP

1144
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,560
rocks.com where I get to write
about the wonderful whiskeys I'm

1145
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,000
privileged and honored to taste
with people like you.

1146
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:01,640
And next week we are going to be
jumping back into the United

1147
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,920
States.
We're going to be talking about

1148
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,320
a film near and dear to my heart
that was filmed to ride from.

1149
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,000
So a sort of piggybacking off of
you.

1150
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,600
And then the Glaswegian, the
feeling of this.

1151
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,760
We're going to Pacific Northwest
and we're going to be watching

1152
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,560
First Blood and we're going to
be drinking a wonderful

1153
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:22,680
Washington Whiskey while we talk
about how Rambo isn't what you

1154
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:26,640
think he is and while also being
in my backyard basically.

1155
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:28,520
So thank you everyone for
listening.

1156
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,760
It's greatly appreciated.
And do it.

1157
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,040
See you next time.
Cheers.

1158
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,560
Thank you so much, wish me to
take care.