Season 10 Bracket Challenge (Part 2): Chaos & Coin Flips
The bracket chaos continues.
In Part 2 of the Film & Whiskey Season 10 Bracket Challenge, Bob and Brad take the field from 16 films down to four—and things get messy fast. What starts as thoughtful film debate quickly spirals into coin flips, upsets, and pure cinematic anarchy.
Along the way, the guys go head-to-head on legendary matchups like Vertigo vs. Star Wars, Pulp Fiction vs. Rear Window, and Casablanca vs. Singin’ in the Rain—all while sipping mystery whiskies pulled from the depths of Bob’s cabinet.
It’s film theory vs. vibes. Structure vs. chaos. And somehow… Star Wars might break the bracket.
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Today on the Film and Whiskey
podcast, we are continuing the
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season 10 bracket and apparently
we're drinking some surprise
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whiskeys as well.
That's all ahead on Film and
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Whiskey.
Well, hey there everybody.
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Welcome into the Film and
Whiskey Podcast.
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I'm Bob Book.
I'm Brad.
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Gee.
And Brad, we are coming at Film
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and Whiskey Nation with another
special bonus episode.
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Bonus episode.
I love it, man.
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Because this is Part 2 of the
Season 10 Bracket challenge.
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Folks, if this is your first
time joining us, why?
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Why is this the one you chose?
Part 2 of the Season 10 bracket.
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I have to give so much context
to catch you up.
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I'd recommend just just press
stop, go back one episode and
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let past Bob give you that
context.
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Because folks, we want to dive
right in.
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Today.
We started with 32 movies.
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We only got down to 16 last time
around, and today we're trying
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to go from 16 through the round
of eight and get down to just
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our final four films.
So we have a lot of picks to do.
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Brad suggested drinking some
whiskey.
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Folks, I'll be honest with you,
nobody has sent us any new
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whiskeys to review in a while.
So he said we should just grab
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something off our shelves and
and try it out.
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So Brad, what did you pick to
sip on tonight as we get into
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this bracket?
As a true whiskey drinker in
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America ought to do.
I'm drinking Scotch, Bob.
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I'm drinking Tam.
Do 12 comes in this fancy box.
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I want to see you like just open
the lid of the box and take the
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cork out, but not take it
out-of-the-box and just pour it
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still in taste.
In the box, it's just like that
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is that is how I pour my whiskey
when it when it comes in a box.
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I believe I am also drinking
Scotch bread, though I can't say
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for sure.
So a year or two ago, our friend
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Zach Johnston gave us a whole
bunch of whiskeys to try.
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We were very eager about trying
a lot of them on the show.
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I have now accepted that we will
simply never, I might not never
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drink these whiskeys as long as
I live, Brad.
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But yeah, I spent a long time
cataloging these whiskeys, and
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there were these tiny little
vials amongst the whiskeys that
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look like this.
If you're on the Patreon, you
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can see how small these things
are.
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They're very tiny and they are,
they're kind of Scotch colored.
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Like they're pretty clear.
There's not much color to them
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and there is no label on them
except on the very bottom.
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Some of them have tiny, tiny
letters.
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One says GC1 says FB1 says PC,
and one just says B.
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And I've believe me dude, I've
tried Googling it.
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I don't.
I have no idea what this is.
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So I'm trying 4 mystery liquids
tonight Brad.
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And that's all I know at this
point.
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OK, we're going to ask ChatGPT
about this.
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Bob, What?
What are the labels again?
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FBTC one just says.
BB.
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And.
GCGC.
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All right, let's see what.
ChatGPT says it's going to be
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wrong.
It's going to pull a whole bunch
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of stuff out of its butt here.
No, ChatGPT can never be wrong,
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Bob.
All right, Short answer, those
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letter codes alone aren't enough
to confidently identify a Scotch
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brand, but we can make some
educated guesses.
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Nope, PC could be port.
Charlotte.
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I do like Port Charlotte, yeah.
If it's a heavily peded line, it
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might be the bruclotic B could.
Be so that might be.
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More Oh yeah.
Or B could, yeah.
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GC.
Yeah.
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Probably wouldn't be Glenn
Morgan.
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Glenn something.
Yeah, Glenn.
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Yeah, it's gotta be Glenn.
Something it.
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Has to be like one big Scotch
producer that owns a lot of
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brands and it's like all their
brands but.
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Yeah, I don't know, probably.
It's probably $1000 whiskey and
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I have no idea.
In any case, Brad, we're not
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here to really talk about the
whiskey much tonight at all.
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We're here to talk about our
bracket.
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And folks, if you are watching
on the Patreon, I'm gonna share
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my screen for a second so you
can see where we're at in the
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film and whiskey bracket.
And here we are, man.
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We are entering the round of 16
here.
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Brad.
I think we should just go ahead
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and dive right in.
We've got our number one overall
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seed, Vertigo, going up against
Brad's favorite movie of all
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time, the number 16 seed Star
Wars.
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Over to you, Brad.
Break this one down for me.
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Man O man, Vertigo all time
classic Bob.
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I mean it is just I would say
the epitome of like Hitchcockian
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mystery and colors and the
blocking in the movie is beyond
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spectacular.
I like, I remember watching
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Vertigo as a teenager for the
first time and like having
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nightmares being terrified.
It was like a a truly horrifying
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movie.
Great great film.
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Star Wars, maybe the most
impactful movie ever released on
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the history of cinema.
Tell me I'm wrong, Bob.
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I mean, it's close, definitely
close, man.
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Yeah.
Listen, this was easy for me.
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Vertigo's moving on in the Bob
book bracket.
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Now I, I will say I'm looking at
your vibes based list, your
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heart rankings, and Star Wars is
your #2 film Vertigo's number 3.
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So this really is as easy as you
might make it sound to move Star
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Wars on here, and this is a
pretty close call for you, I
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would think.
Dude Vertigo's is one of my
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favorite movies of all time.
Definitely on my it's probably
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in my like 5th to 10th favorite
movie of all time.
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I don't know if Star Wars
Episode 4 is quite that high.
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So like vibes for Star Wars is
higher.
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I think overall though, if I had
to rank my top 10 movies of all
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time, I think Vertigo might be
higher on that list.
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I am going to move Vertigo on I,
I.
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Think it's.
I think it's.
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The right decision.
Do you feel pressured to do this
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like I?
Don't feel pressured.
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Honestly, if I feel anything,
Bob, I feel pressured to choose
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Star Wars just for the chaos,
because I just for the point of
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view.
I feel like, you know the one,
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the number one seed getting
defeated by the 16 would never
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happen in any other bracket.
I'm picking Star Wars.
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Star Wars is moving on, Bob.
Dude, and just just for that, I
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have poured out a whole vial of
PC for you my friend.
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And I got to say this smells
fantastic.
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Brad.
It's it's Granny Smith apple for
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days.
I wish you were here to
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experience.
Is it is it Scotch or is it
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something else?
I want to say Scotch, Brad.
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OK.
You drank a lot.
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I was.
Going to say Scotch I trust a
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little smoky.
It's.
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I'm going to say Scotch.
Watch it be like a mescal or
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something.
I have no idea, you know.
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Here I will say Film Whiskey
Nation, here's an update for
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you.
I did flip the Coin of Destiny
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about 50 times after our first
bracket episode and I would say
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there is a slight lean towards
heads.
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Now I, I don't know if that
means that it's actually towards
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tails 'cause I always flip, flip
the coin in the air and then do
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the flip onto my hand.
So I don't know that, you know,
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I don't know if that technically
means that it is weighted
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towards tails.
Either way, start with the coin
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with the same orientation before
flipping.
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No, OK, I, I don't now I will
say I, I tried doing different
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things like flipping it a little
higher than normal or a little
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less and that like helped with
the variability.
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So I, I think we're working with
an OK coin.
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I I don't think it is weighted.
I don't know that we'll need a
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coin flip for this one, but you
never know because Brad has
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established that he is an enemy
of the movie musical.
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And that's my Segway into the.
Hold on what?
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I picked Star Wars.
We have to flip the coin of
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destiny.
No, you didn't.
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You said you're moving Vertigo.
Yeah.
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And then I thought about it and
I was like, there's no chance
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that a #16 seed ever again will
have the opportunity to beat the
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number one seed.
And I picked Star Wars.
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You did not 100%.
You know what?
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I'm picking Star Wars.
I thought we were going to skate
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by here, you bastard.
All right, we're going to flip
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the coin of destiny, which has a
slight lean as we all do.
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A slight lean in One Direction.
Vertigo's going to be heads.
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Vertigo wins my bracket and I'm
voting against.
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Him.
Why are you doing this?
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Why you?
This is just for chaos.
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Chaos, baby.
Vertigo's heads, Star Wars is
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tails Brad to ruin both of our
brackets.
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Flip that coin.
Is it really?
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Is it Tales?
It is the first tales that we've
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had for the whole brackets.
I think you've established what
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you're going to do for the rest
of the bracket.
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Now you're just going to flip
Star Wars against every movie
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just to see like Harvest.
To see what happens, like, yeah.
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Yeah, exactly.
God, I hate you man.
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Why did you do that?
There's no reason for you to do
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that because Bob.
Our brackets are boring at the
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end of the day.
It ends up being like 1/2, 3:00
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and 5:00.
Every season.
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We need, we need a Cinderella.
Cinderella we we need somebody
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from the Mac to get into the
Final four.
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Here it's it's funny that I say
we need a Cinderella Man.
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We literally have a Cinderella
Man.
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We do, we do.
All right, let me get to the
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next match up here.
It's the number 9 overall seed.
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West Side Story up against #8
The Tree of Life.
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Now that would mean that if
there is a coin flip, the Tree
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of life will be heads as the
eight seed.
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Brad, this was not that
difficult for me.
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But as we established, you are a
hater of the movie musical and
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all things good.
And so the Tree of Life, I think
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I said in the last episode, it's
like it's a movie that I can
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kind of sit on a shelf and
acknowledge as a 10.
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I don't get like a ton of
enjoyment watching that movie.
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And there are there are moments
of true beauty and awe in that
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movie, but I think beginning to
end, West Side Story is just a
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much more impactful experience
for me.
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Yeah, I and I totally understand
that.
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I, I think West Side Story is
one of the best musicals ever
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made.
I just, I don't know, man.
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I think the older I get, the
more I feel intrigued by weird,
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artsy like stories that have a
meaningful thing to say about
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the human experience.
I think that Tree of Life has
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that in absolute spades and I am
going to move Tree of Life
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forward.
Of course you are.
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So we're going to have
back-to-back coin flips on a day
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where we are already going to
run long on this episode.
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You're like, let's, let's grind
this baby to a halt.
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Why not?
Tree of Life is heads, West Side
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Story is tails.
You are going to really screw up
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my bracket my friend.
Flip that coin.
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Bob, we have two tails in a row.
I'll take it.
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I I I can't get her to go back,
but I can move West Side Story
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on into the round of eight.
That takes us to the bottom left
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quadrant.
This one might not need much
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debate, Brad, as much as we love
the number 13 seed, Amadeus,
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it's going up against the number
four overall seed.
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And I believe your number one
overall seed, Pulp Fiction.
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Yeah, dude.
Pulp Pulp Fiction.
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Just I don't know what it was
this time around.
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It checked all the boxes for me.
I it still isn't once again
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similar to Vertigo.
It probably would be in like my
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5 to 10, fifth to 10th best
overall movie range.
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So it's it's not like I have the
passion for it, but it could
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easily win any individual season
of our show.
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So I for me, this is an easy
pick.
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Pulp Fiction.
Yeah, for me too.
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And I love Amadeus.
But like, again, if we're
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talking about movies that
changed the course of movie
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history, yeah, Pulp Fiction's
kind of a no brainer here.
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So after 2 long debates, we have
one very quick one, getting the
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number four seed Pulp Fiction
into the round of eight.
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And this will finalize the left
side of the bracket here, Brad,
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the number 12 overall seed, the
Treasure of the Sierra Madre,
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going up against the number 5
seed, Rear Window.
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Now I will.
I'm just telling you now, I will
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be a ride or die for Rear
Window, I think, on this side of
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the bracket from here on out
because I think that is just
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frankly, a perfect movie.
Yeah.
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And even even in the next round
when I would like to think it
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will go up against Pulp Fiction,
I think I'm going to pick it
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there too because I think Pulp
Fiction is a great, slightly
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unwieldy movie.
And Rear Windows, just like a
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freaking well oiled machine that
just extracts suspense from you.
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So we don't even have to talk
about that now, because it's up
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against The Treasure of the
Sierra Madre, a movie that I
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love dearly, but that it just
doesn't hold the candle to Rear
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Window in my mind.
Dude, not at all.
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Rear window is like, once again,
we're we're we're kind of
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whittling away the chaff and we
are getting towards the cream of
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the crop.
What, what would you say is your
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favorite Walter Houston quote
from Treasure of the Sierra
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Madre?
Because he's he has some
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incredible ones.
All I keep coming back to is
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when he's doing his little like
hop skip and he's like you're
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Dumber than the dumbest Jackass.
Like it's just a great like of
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all the you're dumb quotes,
you're Dumber than the dumbest
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Jackass is top tier.
You're dumb.
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It's so.
Freaking good dude.
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I love when he's talking to the
guys and he's like, hey you
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fellas, now how about some
beans?
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You want some beans going
through some mighty rough
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country tomorrow?
You better.
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Have he's trying to break up a
fight by like, dangling beans in
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front of people, yes.
It's.
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Incredible, dude.
I freaking love that movie,
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dude.
I'm sorry to see it go into the
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fiery abyss, but Rear Window
must move on here.
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And so we've got our first half
of the round of eight locked in
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Star Wars, West Side Story, Pulp
Fiction and Rear Window.
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I like that.
I've been talking a lot this
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episode.
I know that you have the bracket
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on your end.
I would like for you to intro
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the right side of our bracket so
that I can sit back and enjoy my
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pour of BBB.
You got the.
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You got the B, Bob, just B.
On the right side of the
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bracket, we have our number two
overall seed 12 angry Men going
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up against the number 18 seed
and a real, you know, underdog
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story, if you will, Cinderella
Man Bob I, I feel like once
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again, this this is where the
bracket just kind of, you know,
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the, the one through 4 seed kind
of has an easy row the first two
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rounds, as it should be.
Cinderella Man is a great movie.
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It is a stirring film.
It ought to it deserves more
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recognition than it gets.
It's not 12 Angry Men.
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It's I don't.
I don't have Ron Howard's book
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up here on my ledge.
I have Sidney Lumetz.
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You do have Sidney Lumetz.
Have you read it yet?
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I haven't I I really want to.
I bought myself a copy of it
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about a year ago and I also
haven't read it.
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I think we should have Film and
Whiskey book club next season
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dude, and that could be our
bonus episodes is just going
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through Sidney Lumetz book.
Dude, we'll do a Patreon book
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club.
Patreon Book Club.
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We'll do a giveaway, will buy a
new Patreon, member a copy of
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the book, and you can join the
book club.
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But I love it dude.
We're moving into books and
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whiskey for season 11.
I freaking love it man.
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Wine my only.
Remaining question, right.
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My only remaining question about
this matchup is do you think
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that James J Braddock could
could take all 12 men in the
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jury room if you just put him in
there?
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Like the old man's dead
immediately and the little share
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of glasses is dead immediately,
but there's like 10 able bodied
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men in there that I think might
be able to gang up and and
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defeat Jim Braddock.
That's a good question man.
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Are we talking about like pre
broken hand got real strong
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working on the docks?
Braddock, are we talking?
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We're talking about the same one
that faces Max Baer at the end
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of the movie, Dings and all.
I I think overcoming 10 men
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would be hard.
I think if you put Max, I think
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if you put Max, Baer and Brad in
the room.
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Just like 1 uppercut to each guy
and they're all dead.
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And it's, it's like a bad like
action movie where they're
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coming one at a time and he's
just boom, boom, boom.
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Like Popeye?
Yeah, dude.
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Yes, dude.
Max Baer would have been a great
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if there's ever a live action
Popeye, who's the actor who was?
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There was a live action Popeye,
but we don't need to talk about
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that right now, Brad.
That's another bonus episode.
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Why did we ever think that that
was a good idea?
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All right, we're moving down
into the next match up, the
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number 10 overall seed, The
Great Escape up against #7
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Inglourious Basterds.
This is a really hard match up
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for me, Brad, because I've
really gone back and forth on
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Inglourious Basterds in our time
on the show here.
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I think I was at like a six out
of 10 the first time we watched
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it, and this time I was at like
a nine out of 10.
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I, I do think that it's one of
Tarantino's best.
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I also think it's one of
Tarantino's most indulgent,
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along with Once Upon a Time in
Hollywood.
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It's not one of my favorite
Tarantino's.
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It's just one that I kind of
like, appreciate and respect a
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little more than I love.
And I think that opens the door
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for me for The Great Escape, a
movie that is very solidly a
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nine out of 10 and nothing more
than that, but like one of the
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best.
I'm going to fall asleep with a
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window open on a Saturday
afternoon and this movie's
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playing in the background and I
wake up and it's still on and
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I'm like, dope, let's watch
these guys try to escape.
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Steve's jumping over a barbed
wire fence.
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It's crazy.
Yeah, dude, I don't know what to
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do here, Brad.
I'd like to hear your opinion,
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Bob.
You're silly.
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Inglourious Basterds has one of
the absolute greatest opening
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scenes of all time.
Like True Bar None has one of
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the most incredibly dark and
intimidating villains of all
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time who also pulls a little bit
of a comedic edge.
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Right.
The lows of Inglorious Basterds
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are like the midpoints of The
Great Escape.
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And there's not many lows in
Inglorious Basterds.
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Like for me this is an easy easy
pick.
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I think Shoshanna out acts any
human being who's in the Great
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Escape like this is an easy easy
pic of inglorious Basterds.
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Man, my head says you're right.
My heart says the great escape.
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And your heart is not saying
anything, it is singing.
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Real quick, one more point.
Against Inglorious Basterds?
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Not really.
Against, Obviously.
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Tarantino is hugely influenced
by The Good, The Bad and the
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Ugly.
It's his favorite movie of all
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time.
That movie was on TV the other
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night and I watched the opening
couple scenes and I forgot about
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that first scene with the
villain Lee Van Cleef, where he
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goes to that family's farmhouse
and there's hardly any dialogue
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spoken.
So it is different than
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Tarantino, but over the course
of like 15 minutes, you watch
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this terrified family come to
understand that this guy's going
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to kill everybody in the house.
And he does that.
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And I was like, oh, it's the
beginning of Inglourious
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Basterds.
Tarantino just took his his
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favorite scene from his favorite
movie and redid it with
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Christoph Waltz and a giant
tobacco.
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If if Coogler can steal the
entirety of well, what movie is
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it If.
He can steal the entire movie of
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From Dusk Till Dawn.
I think we can forgive 1 scene
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for Tarantino.
Brad, I I'm sorry.
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I'm gonna make you do a coin
flip.
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I'll get the great Escape more.
Yeah, I just.
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I think you're right.
But I also like you.
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You'd screwed me on Star Wars,
so I.
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Knew this was coming.
Flip this.
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Coin Yeah, let's see, the Great
Escape is gonna be tails.
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So Inglorious Basterds heads and
Great Escape tails, Brad, just
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for the hell of it, flip that
coin.
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All right, we have another
heads.
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There you go, it all worked out
at the end.
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I went to bat for my movie.
You did.
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I'm proud of you, Bob.
All right, so 12 Angry Men and
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Inglourious Basterds will be
facing off against each other in
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the round of eight.
And that takes us to our last
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two matchups in this round, the
number three overall seed
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Casablanca up against the 14
seed The Lion King, a film which
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once again, I, I think that's
the first movie I remember going
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to see in the movie theater.
I was like 4 years old, not even
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four years old.
Yeah, I, I know that I saw
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movies in my zero to 10 years
old.
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The first movie I really
remember going to see in the
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theaters was Monsters, Inc when
I would have been 10 or 11.
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So it came out 2001.
And that like that's a great,
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what a great memory.
Great movie, dude.
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And yet I think this is pretty
obvious, man.
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I'm I'm riding Casablanca here.
Sorry Lion King, we will dangle
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you over the edge like Mufasa
and drop you into the herd of
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wildebeests.
Now here's the real question.
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Am I going to be scar and hurl
Casablanca into the wildebeests?
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No you're not, because you had
Casablanca going really far in
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your your bracket as well.
And you don't.
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Like The Lion King that much?
I had Vertigo going real far,
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Bob.
I don't like Lion King that
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much.
That's true.
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That's true.
I don't Casablanca.
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Is safe for this round.
I would.
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It is.
Yeah, it is.
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All right.
That takes us to our last match
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up here, which I think may be
another coin flip, Brad, because
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we're talking about a movie that
you apparently loathe the number
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11 seed singing in the rain up
against the number six seed.
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Some like it hot.
A movie that we did have
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conversation about last episode
and both said it's it's a
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perfect movie.
The problem here is that I kind
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of also think that Singing in
the Rain is a perfect movie and
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just a vessel for God to impart
the divine gift of joy unto
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mankind.
Except for you.
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Bob, this is this is a classic
Goodfellas experience where I I
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gave this movie at 8.5.
Like I I like singing in the
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rain.
I'm just not like, captivated by
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its spell.
There are certain films where
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it's like almost more insulting
that you found it to be an 8
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point, but I'd rather you'd be
like, it didn't work for me 5
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out of 10 then like it's pretty
good.
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Yeah, it's that's like how who
lands on?
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It's pretty good.
I mean, it's a pretty good.
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Movie.
I like it it.
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It entertained me.
OK, so fair to say you moved
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some like it hot on here.
Oh, obviously some like it hot,
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OK.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna force a
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coin flip.
The thing is that I don't care
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if some like a hot wins here
'cause I I do love that movie.
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I just like genuinely, truly
think Singing in the Rain
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deserves is on like a Mount
Rushmore of all time movies and
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not for Brad.
So whoa, A.
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Top four movie all time.
Not necessarily for me, but if
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you look through the history of
like the sight and sound pools
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and like the French auteurs and
movie critics down through the
438
00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:58,520
years, it is like, I'm telling
you, it's like Citizen Kane one
439
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,680
or two out, like Tokyo Story,
maybe Singing in the Rain is in
440
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,240
there.
It is just considered like an
441
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,320
auteurist masterpiece that
deserves to be studied until the
442
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,480
Earth explodes someday like it
is.
443
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,200
I'm sorry, I don't understand
that.
444
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,960
That's wild.
I think we should flip the coin.
445
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,320
All right, I think some might
get hot as heads here, as the
446
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,880
sixth seed singing in the rain
will be tails for perhaps the
447
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,280
most consequential 1 yet.
Brad, flip that coin.
448
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,600
See, now we're getting a little
variety.
449
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:40,880
We have tails again.
Singing in the Rain pulls out
450
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,520
the upset.
Brad clearly pissed on his end
451
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,040
over there, and I love it,
folks.
452
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,040
So that completes our round of
eights.
453
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,640
Now, I'll go back to the
beginning to read these.
454
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,520
We've got Star Wars against West
Side Story, Pulp Fiction versus
455
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,720
Rear Window 12, Angry Men
against Inglourious Basterds,
456
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,240
and Casablanca versus Singing in
the Rain.
457
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,800
Brad, I think that is a perfect
time for us to press pause.
458
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,680
Let's take a quick break here
and then we'll come back and do
459
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,000
our round of eight.
What do you say?
460
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:11,640
I'm ready man.
Let's do it.
461
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,920
All right, we're jumping back
into the bracket in the round of
462
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,240
eight.
I, you know, honestly, Brad, for
463
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,920
having three coin flips in the
round of 16, we moved through
464
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,240
that pretty briskly.
And I look through, you know,
465
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,200
obviously season 1 is full of
old movies, but it is, it's
466
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,160
pretty funny how quickly the
movies are getting older and
467
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,360
older by round.
And I think that speaks to, you
468
00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:42,040
know, not just that we like old
movies, but that the ones in
469
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,480
this season are kind of
unimpeachable classic old
470
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:47,160
movies.
Brad.
471
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,560
Yeah, absolutely.
I like if not for Vertigo being
472
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:56,600
against Star Wars and me
enjoying chaos like sure Vertigo
473
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,440
is in here.
I almost the average age of
474
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:07,240
these movies As I look through
is the only two movies made in
475
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,720
the 2000s are Quentin not even
from like 1995 on.
476
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,280
The only two movies are Quentin
Tarantino films, and even then
477
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,040
our our youngest movie is 19
years old.
478
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,000
Like, these are some old films,
Bob, and they're pretty much
479
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,920
some of the greatest.
Yeah, man.
480
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,320
And you know, not to dive too
quickly into this first match up
481
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,200
here, but your boy's going to
flip the coin again because
482
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,440
we're talking about Star Wars
versus West Side Story now.
483
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,080
I don't think we need to state
our cases too much.
484
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,840
I do have one question that I'm
curious about, Brad.
485
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,720
You know, we've, we've talked
through auteur theory a little
486
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,600
bit on the podcast and at least
what we think it means.
487
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,040
And you know, I look at a movie
like West Side Story versus Star
488
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,560
Wars, and I think it would be
very easy to say if you're kind
489
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,800
of an authorist, West Side Story
is the clear winner here because
490
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,160
it has such a clear kind of
direction, visual theme,
491
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,080
understanding of Miss Anson and
all these things.
492
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,120
Sure.
I do think there's an arcturist,
493
00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:15,360
obviously an arcturist argument
to make for Star Wars.
494
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,520
Like it's George Lucas creating
this world that he would come to
495
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,840
spend his entire career on after
the fact.
496
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,040
Yep.
But I guess what I'm asking is
497
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:28,480
if you put your sort of like
analytical film guy hat on and
498
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,600
you only could pick this match
up based on that, do do you
499
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,320
think that even for you, West
Side Story would win that match
500
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,240
up?
Like as in like.
501
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,200
Which one represents Otur theory
more?
502
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:48,120
Which one encapsulates like,
yeah, cinema, whatever that
503
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,920
means that that ephemeral term
of cinema.
504
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,840
Oh my gosh, think I would still.
That's a tough one, man.
505
00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:01,520
I think I would still say Star
Wars because it feels like such
506
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:06,200
a singular vision like that.
Like, yes, West Side Story is
507
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,280
unique.
I wouldn't say it's like
508
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,160
completely separate from all of
their musicals.
509
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:18,080
I can't think of many movies
that capture the hero's story,
510
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:24,800
the incredible miniature work
that Lucas and his team did with
511
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,880
a driving story and action like
that.
512
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,800
He combines all those things.
Like, sure, you have 2001 a
513
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,560
Space Odyssey.
That's not an action movie, you
514
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,680
know what I mean?
It's not a popcorn movie.
515
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,400
So I, I think that Lucas
captures a lot of different
516
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:46,240
elements in a very unique way.
And for me, I think that's kind
517
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:53,160
of the hallmark of auteur theory
is that it's a director who can
518
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,120
take all the different elements
of filmmaking and create
519
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,320
something unique to them.
Like Wes Anderson is an auteur
520
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,640
because he has all the same
equipment everybody else is
521
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,320
using, and yet he creates movies
in such a way that you know it's
522
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,800
him when he makes it.
I think the same could be said
523
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,040
true for Lucas in the films that
he makes.
524
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,560
I'll be honest with you, Bob.
I don't remember who directed
525
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,160
West Side Story.
So.
526
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,720
It's 'cause you're a casual,
'cause you are not a ball
527
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,880
knower, Brad, it's Robert Wise.
Yeah, but there's another guy
528
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,840
directing it, right?
And he got like fired.
529
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,000
Jerome Robbins, Yeah, he got
booted.
530
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,360
They said get out of here.
You can't call it an author
531
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,120
movie if two different people
directed the film.
532
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,280
Get out of here.
And on that note, it is time to
533
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,280
flip that coin.
I do wish that West Side Stories
534
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,040
extended cast of characters got
their own movie The way that
535
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,120
Star Wars extended cast of
characters do.
536
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,120
I would like to see Baby John
and Grogu like that.
537
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,680
I would.
I would go watch that movie in a
538
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,200
heartbeat.
If Disney made it though.
539
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,480
Yeah, no, it wouldn't be any
good.
540
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:14,760
Flip the coin.
All righty, we have another
541
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:21,400
Tales victory, which means my
boy, my boy, Georgie Luke is
542
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,600
heading on dude.
Why did you do this dude?
543
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,720
This could have been Vertigo.
I'm happy as a clam right now.
544
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,080
You did.
You knew you were going to do
545
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,880
this.
You came in this night knowing
546
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,360
you were going to do this.
I I feel it in my bones.
547
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,360
I am.
I am as happy as Walter Houston
548
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,920
when he stares dead into the
camera.
549
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,400
You you my friend, are Dumber
than the dumbest Jackass.
550
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,720
And that takes us to our next
match up, the four seed Pulp
551
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,800
Fiction up against the five seed
rear window.
552
00:31:55,160 --> 00:32:00,400
This might be the I mean, it's
not as hard for me 'cause I
553
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,680
think Rear Window's perfect, but
just in general, this might be
554
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,680
the toughest match up of the
entire bracket, Brad.
555
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,800
I I would agree.
With you 4 versus.
556
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,320
Five Yeah, I, I would agree with
you.
557
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,560
I think Rear Window I, I here's
the problem.
558
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,280
I think both of them are perfect
films in their own way.
559
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:23,760
I think I, I think I lean
towards Pulp Fiction because of
560
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,120
Samuel's speech at the end of
the movie.
561
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,680
Like there's some, oh dude,
there's something about the end
562
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:36,360
of a movie that has a good
resonant ending and the idea of
563
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:42,760
a man who has come face to face
with God and just wants to be
564
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,240
better.
He's just trying Bob.
565
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,120
That just that hit me.
Dude, I've seen that scene.
566
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,360
I was obsessed with this movie
when I was in high school.
567
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,200
Dude obsessed with this movie
and I have watched this scene so
568
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,600
many times that I can play it in
my mind like a DVD now.
569
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,640
And the moment when he he shifts
his weight and he kind of
570
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,800
squints his eyes like he's
focusing extra hard on on Ringo
571
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,000
when he says the truth is and he
leans in and points the gun at
572
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:19,640
him and says you're the weak.
It's just it's the best line
573
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,080
reading of all time.
Brad.
574
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,600
It's it's so good.
He should have won an Oscar.
575
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,080
Yeah, it's AB.
It's stunningly good.
576
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,280
It is Samuel L Jackson at his
absolute peak.
577
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,120
And I like, I love Rear Window
Man.
578
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,000
I would watch it 9 times out of
10 if you put it up against ten
579
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,880
other movies.
I think I'm taking Pulp Fiction
580
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,080
on this one.
I don't mind that dude and like
581
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,240
I I think I am going to take
Rear Window here.
582
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,320
Not just because I want to force
a coin flip, but because these
583
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,720
movies are so close in my mind
that on any given day, I think I
584
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,320
would pick either one of them.
And so a coin flip is kind of
585
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,600
the only way for me to to hash
this out.
586
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,800
I'm happy with whichever one
wins.
587
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,080
Pulp Fiction will be heads in
this scenario, and Rear Window
588
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,560
will be tails.
So Brad for a spot.
589
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,840
Oh, you look like you're gonna
make a joke about the rear.
590
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,320
What I'll I'll give you, I'll
give you an option.
591
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,760
I'm gonna give you an out.
Robert, Are you ready?
592
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,719
You're going to.
Let me have rear window as long
593
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,120
as I agree to a coin flip
against Star Wars and no.
594
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:32,719
I will let you have both of them
if one of them replaces
595
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,679
Casablanca on the other side of
the bracket.
596
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,360
Oh interesting.
Well, I guess that depends on
597
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,400
how hard are you going to ride
for 12 Angry Men or Inglorious
598
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,360
Basterds.
That's that's a that is a
599
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:46,239
something that I know and you
don't.
600
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,120
Yeah, I don't care.
We're going to flip this coin,
601
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,840
dude.
This is, we have to do this the
602
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,480
way nature and God intended us
to do it, and that is via chaos.
603
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,720
So Pulp Fiction, Heads, Rear
Window Tails, Brad, Flip that
604
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:10,720
coin.
Dude, see this?
605
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,800
I told you, man, we got a few
tails in here.
606
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,160
Look at that, that that coin got
pissed.
607
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,840
Off at you for criticizing it
publicly so much.
608
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,600
It did.
Rear Window is into the Final
609
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:28,240
Four, so I think surprisingly to
both of us, Brad, our our two
610
00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:30,720
entrants on this side of the
bracket, Star Wars in Rear
611
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:33,640
Window, I don't think either of
us had that in our bracket.
612
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,560
No what?
What did you have for the bottom
613
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,640
bracket?
I I don't have my bracket pulled
614
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,640
up, I either had Vertigo or West
Side Story coming out of the top
615
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,560
and I had Rear window coming out
of the bottom here.
616
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:49,800
Oh OK, alright, yeah, no, I had
Vertigo and Pulp Fiction, so my
617
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,600
western half of the bracket.
Shot dude is.
618
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,520
Done for.
Well, why don't you take us over
619
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,720
to the right side of the bracket
here Brad, as we look at our
620
00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:02,240
first match up in the top right
quadrant.
621
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,120
Yeah, We are looking at the
number two overall seed 12 angry
622
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:13,320
men versus Inglourious Basterds.
Now I will I will say if we're
623
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:18,000
continuing on with our theme of
who could fight 12 angry men, I
624
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,560
think the Bear Jew would have a
good chance.
625
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,960
You give him that baseball bat.
Yeah, that that doesn't seem
626
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,560
like it'd actually be very hard
at all, Brad.
627
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,200
But but here's the thing, Henry
Fonda gets the knife that he
628
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,720
stabs into the.
Table switchblade.
629
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:36,800
That's it.
That's true, man.
630
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,320
We're just creating better
sequels for both of these
631
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,760
movies.
All right, look, I I picked the
632
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,000
great escape in the last round
against this.
633
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,520
I like Inglorious Basterds a
lot.
634
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,640
I think the great escape very
narrowly edged it out for me.
635
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,440
I don't think it holds a candle
to 12 angry men 12 angry men's
636
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,280
another perfect movie.
And so for me, this is like this
637
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,880
is a no brainer.
I I moved 12 angry men on pretty
638
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:03,520
easily.
Man, I so I gave 12 Angry Men
639
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,080
and Inglourious Basterds a 10
out of 10.
640
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,640
I like I love both of these.
Movies for Inglorious?
641
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,640
I didn't know that.
And I gave I in my vibe
642
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,480
rankings, I put 12 Angry men at
4:00 and I put Inglourious
643
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,440
Basterds AT5I.
I love both of these movies, Bob
644
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:27,560
I I think they both I will say,
unlike last round and talking
645
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:35,200
about great escape, 12 angry men
is consistently A9 or 9 1/2.
646
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,560
Like the lowest point of that
movie might be a nine out of 10.
647
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:44,560
And it's probably when the judge
is like, telling them to go back
648
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,480
into the room, and then they're
in the room and it's at least a
649
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,080
9 1/2 out of 10.
The rest of the movie, like,
650
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,520
right.
Like, it is a perfect movie
651
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,400
through and through.
Inglourious Basterds has some
652
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,800
slow moments.
We talked about it.
653
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,120
It dips a little bit.
It dips a little bit and it's
654
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,640
whenever the Inglourious
Basterds are like doing things.
655
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,600
On the screen, yeah.
Yeah, anytime anybody else is on
656
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,920
the screen, it's great.
Now, the one exception to that
657
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,360
is the bar scene.
But even that, it's like, not
658
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,440
all the bastards, it's just a
few of them.
659
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,680
And who's the actress?
Kruger.
660
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,160
Diane Kruger.
Diane Kruger.
661
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,360
Yeah, yeah, it's like them and
her and the German guy and it's
662
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:30,800
great.
Anyways, I, I want to see, I'm
663
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:36,880
going to once again, Bob, I'm
going to go against what I
664
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,560
picked and I'm going to choose
12 Angry Men to move on.
665
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,640
Yeah, you are.
I I just, oh, I know I can't.
666
00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:49,800
I can't put in glorious over it.
At the other listen, at the end
667
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,360
of the day, you're being
consistent because Star Wars was
668
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,160
your number 2, Vertigo was your
three and you picked Star Wars.
669
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,200
That's true.
Angry Men was your four and
670
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,600
Glorious is your 5.
Like, that's just, that's how
671
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,360
the ranking shook out my friend.
Dude, I, I mean, I've screwed
672
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:08,800
myself out of two of my four
final four.
673
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,480
I might just have to do the same
thing once we get down to our
674
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:17,120
bottom right bracket, which is
the number three seed Casablanca
675
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,400
versus the number 11 seed
Singing in the Rain.
676
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,840
This, I can't, I can't do that.
Bob Casablanca's moving on.
677
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,520
I love Casablanca.
It's an incredible film.
678
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,480
If some Like It Hot was here, I
might want to play a little
679
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,760
chaos and choose it.
But Singing in the Rain is a
680
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,760
garbage movie for garbage
people, so.
681
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,120
I have a couple confessions to
make.
682
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,720
Brad, this is our confession.
I'm, I'm 3.
683
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:50,160
Is it a, is it a Dashboard
Confessional?
684
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:51,640
Yeah, it's a Dashboard
Confessional.
685
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,040
It sure is.
Now I've watched Casablanca 2
686
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,840
times in the last year.
My perhaps my favorite movie of
687
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,640
all time after having not
watched it in about 5 years.
688
00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:06,000
And there is a section in the
middle and I can, I can pinpoint
689
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,520
the exact moment.
It's when it's it's the daytime
690
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,720
after.
The eventful first night and he
691
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:15,760
runs into Ilsa out in the bazaar
when she's looking at things.
692
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,800
And then they go visit Sydney
Green Street at the Blue Parrot
693
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,240
and talk to him for a while.
And I thought to myself, this is
694
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:24,560
boring.
This section of this movie is
695
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,480
boring.
And I've never felt this way
696
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,880
before.
And I stuffed that down because
697
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,840
I said, you can't say that about
Casablanca.
698
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,680
It's your favorite movie.
You're not allowed to.
699
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,040
Then I watched it a second time
and I was like, Oh my God, is
700
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,800
Casablanca closer to a nine and
a half than a 10 for you now,
701
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,200
Bob?
And I stuffed that down within
702
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,720
me.
And then when I did my bracket,
703
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:54,160
I had this match up and I
remembered my son, who was three
704
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,720
years old at the time, wanting
to watch Singing in the Rain
705
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,640
because he loved the dancing and
he wanted to watch the Singing
706
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,680
in the Rain number.
He wanted to watch, Moses
707
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,600
supposes, and he wanted to watch
Make Him Laugh.
708
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,960
And when he watched Donald
O'Connor doing Make Him Laugh, I
709
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,000
was like, this is what movies
are about, dude.
710
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:18,400
I'm watching my kid fall in love
with one of my favorite movies,
711
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,840
not because of something I did,
but because it just freaking
712
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,280
works, man.
And hopefully someday he'll fall
713
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,920
in love with Casablanca the way
I did.
714
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:31,840
But at this moment of my life,
Brad, if I had to pick one movie
715
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:38,480
to save from the fiery furnace
for my children's sake, I think
716
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,040
it's singing in the rain, Brad.
I I like that you've placed this
717
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,760
now that I am the destroyer of
your children's no.
718
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,360
I'm just telling you, like, for
me to to willingly let
719
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,760
Casablanca go into the fiery
furnace there, there had to be
720
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,920
some monumental shift.
And I think what I'm telling you
721
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,880
is I'm experiencing that now in
fatherhood.
722
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,320
Yeah.
And I think singing in the rain
723
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,680
at this moment is more near and
dear to my heart, even though if
724
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,720
I'm making a list of like, best
movies ever, it's behind
725
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:10,360
Casablanca.
Yeah.
726
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,720
I don't know, it's like it's
like second hand Lions for You
727
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:16,440
is behind a lot of movies on the
best movies ever list, but like
728
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,000
it's going to be in your final
four movies.
729
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:26,080
Second Hand Lions, a movie that
was quoted of Robert Duvall's
730
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,560
movies.
That is the movie they chose.
731
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,600
The quote from Bob that's going
to come up every time Second
732
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,960
Hand Lions comes up on this
podcast from here on out.
733
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,760
If this.
Ends very anticlimactically here
734
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,280
with an easy Casablanca coin
flip victory.
735
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,720
Like that's fine.
I just had to say I I should
736
00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:48,080
have known when I offered you to
get rid of Casablanca and keep
737
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:52,480
Rear Window OR Pulp Fiction and
you didn't even say anything.
738
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,520
You're like, yeah, maybe I could
do that.
739
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,160
I should have known you.
You're traitor.
740
00:42:57,240 --> 00:42:58,160
You don't.
You don't.
741
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,080
Actually, I would still pick
Singing in the Rain over both
742
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,600
those movies 'cause if
Casablanca's my favorite movie
743
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,160
and those other two aren't, and
I'm still picking Singing in the
744
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,200
Rain here, what does that tell
you, man?
745
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,440
I I love my children that I'm
gonna I'm think I'm gonna call
746
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,840
Wellness check on you, but let's
let's get this coin for.
747
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,840
My children.
All right.
748
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,680
Casablanca is heads.
Singing in the rain is tails.
749
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:35,120
Brad, flip that coin.
Robert Casablanca will be moving
750
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,040
on.
We have finally.
751
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,040
Casablanca moves on.
As I said, it ended anti
752
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,960
climactically, but it did not go
down without a fight.
753
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,240
So thank you to Singing in the
Rain.
754
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:51,080
But we have our final four
films, Brad, 1977's Star Wars,
755
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:59,440
the most recent film, our final
41954's Rear Window, 1957's 12
756
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:07,440
Angry Men and 1942's Casablanca.
Looking at this list of four, I
757
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,720
very easily can identify my
championship match up.
758
00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:12,960
Brad does.
Do you have one in mind?
759
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,880
Does one stick out to you pretty
quickly here too?
760
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:23,760
Oh man, I I would say it feels
pretty obvious to me who the
761
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,360
winner's who the winner's gonna
be.
762
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,760
I could tell that there's a coin
flip coming pretty quickly in
763
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,000
our next episode, Brad.
But folks, that will do it for
764
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,720
us today.
Now, if you've been following
765
00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:38,880
along with your own film and
whiskey bracket, especially if
766
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,960
you're following us on social
media, you will know that we are
767
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,600
giving out some prizes to people
who are completing their film
768
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,000
and whiskey bracket and letting
us know their winner.
769
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,640
So we will be tagging winners in
our social media posts.
770
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,000
If you have not yet downloaded
your film and whiskey bracket,
771
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,880
it is not too late to do so.
You see how we're shaking out.
772
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,000
But we want to know what your
final four movies would be and
773
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,080
especially what your Film and
Whiskey Season 10 champion would
774
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,520
be.
So go to filmwhiskey.com.
775
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:09,680
That is film whiskey with an E
dot com.
776
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,200
You'll see the bracket challenge
button right up in the
777
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,440
navigation bar.
You can download and fill out
778
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,040
your own bracket there.
Brad, where else should we send
779
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,840
to the folks as we sign off for
the day?
780
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,040
Man, head over to our Discord.
We're talking about movies,
781
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,240
We're talking about brackets,
We're talking about book clubs.
782
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:29,800
Apparently you can find a link
to our Discord server at the end
783
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,600
of every single one of our show
notes.
784
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,600
Don't forget about the Patreon
page, folks.
785
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,160
For just $3 a month, you get
access to everything we offer.
786
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,400
And if you want to give us a
little more, we won't say no to
787
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,040
that either, but there are
special video episodes.
788
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,160
There's going to be a book club
now if you'd like to join the
789
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,280
Film and Whiskey Book Club, $3 a
month, baby, come talk about
790
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,640
Sidney Lumet with us.
You can find us on
791
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:56,080
patreon.com/filmwhiskey.
That will do it for us today.
792
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,800
We'll be back next week to
finish out the season 10
793
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,560
bracket, to talk about our
favorite whiskeys of the season
794
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,160
as well, and to give out the
filmies the best Movie Awards
795
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,040
there are.
Brad.
796
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,320
That's right, and it won't be a
four hour telecast.
797
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,040
It will not, Not this time.
All right, so until next week,
798
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:16,840
I'm Bob Book.
I'm Brad.
799
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,760
Gee.
And we'll see you next time.