Oscars 2026 Recap + Season 10 Bracket Challenge Begins (Round of 32)

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On today's Film and Whiskey,
we're talking about the Oscars

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2026.
We'll give a quick recap of all

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of our thoughts on this year's
winners and then Brad.

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Dude, it's bracket time.
That's all ahead on film and

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whiskey.
Well, hey everybody, welcome

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into the Film and Whiskey
podcast.

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I'm Bob Book.
I'm Brad Jeep.

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And Brad, we're coming at you
with another special bonus

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episode.
Bonus episode.

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I'll tell you what, dude, there
is nothing like getting on the

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horn with you at the butt crack
of dawn.

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Talk about last night's Oscars
'cause we had the option to stay

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up real late and talk about the
Oscars and I said no, let's

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sleep on it.
You know, I want my first words

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that I audibly say to be
captured on Mike tomorrow

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morning.
Absolutely.

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My my Husky sexy voice is here
to talk all about last night's

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Academy Awards, which I think
the banner headline of this

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year's Oscars is Brad G watched
some of this.

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That's true.
I watched a lot of this, Bob.

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I think I started watching at
like 8:30 or so and I I watched

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through to the end.
My wife was sleeping in bed next

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to me and I had my laptop open.
Break it.

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Breaking all the marriage rules.
You've ever heard of the

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Christian Marriage Conference?
I'm so proud of you, first of

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all, for, for watching the
Oscars telecast, Brad.

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And I have to say, you know, I
found what I watched of it last

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night to be pretty good.
Not a bad telecast.

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I don't usually like award shows
in general.

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You know, I watched the Oscars
most years, but this one seemed

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to move at a decent pace it it
did not break the four hour

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mark, which really is insane
that these things would ever go

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4 hours.
But yes, I'd like to hear your

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thoughts, just in general, as a
guy who never watches the

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Oscars.
What'd you think of the

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telecast?
I I think that you've used the

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word telecast 3 times and that's
a very old fashioned word.

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You know, I have to, I have to
use it now because it's going to

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go straight to YouTube in a
couple years here.

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Then you definitely can't call
it a telecast anymore.

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It's not.
A.

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It's live telecast.
Right.

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I thought it was pleasant, I I
really enjoyed Conan O'Brien.

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I thought he was he was usually
short, to the point and like his

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jokes landed and that's.
That's all I feel like you can

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ask for from a host when I think
it was the K pop Demon Hunter

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song one.
The lady was talking about K pop

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and how cool it was.
And she thanked everybody.

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And then like the dude swooped
in and was like, and I also want

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to thank.
And they pulled the mic on him

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and Conan just goes, man, to
retract a mic on a man in the

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middle of his speeches.
Hilarious.

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It was parade killed man.
I was yeah.

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I was laughing very hard.
I like Conan.

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He has just enough of like the
old fashioned showman in him,

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but he also has that like David
Letterman streak of very

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irreverent host.
And it's a nice balance because

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he's not offensive to the guests
in the room and he's willing to

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tell a joke so stupid that he
knows it's not going to land.

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And I think you need somebody
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hosting the Oscars.
It's it's been really nice, man.

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I do.
I do still worry about the

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future of the Oscars.
I just think that, like, most

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people don't care.
Like, no one cares what wins an

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Oscar anymore except people like
you and me.

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And I think that's a brilliant
segue into talking about this

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year's winners because after all
of this hoopla, Brad 1 Battle

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After another did in fact, take
home the Oscar for best picture.

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It won, I believe, 5 or 6 Oscars
on the night, 6 Oscars on the

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night because it added that new
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So the Oscars included best
picture, best director, best

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adapted screenplay, best
supporting actor, best casting,

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and then I believe, best
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It won as well, which means that
it did edge out Sinners, which

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was its primary competition in
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Sinners took home, I believe, 4
Academy Awards last night.

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So they both did kind of, you
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bit.
Brad, I know that you personally

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just truly hate everything that
one battle after another stands

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for.
So now that it's actually just

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done the job of winning picture
and director, what are your

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immediate takeaways here?
I mean, it's a sign of our

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times, right?
For me, what made me realize it

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was There Will Be Blood did not
win best picture.

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Right.
A very subtle and beautiful

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critique of American capitalism
of a fanatic American church.

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Culture, but beautiful for sure.
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another, it was it is subtle.
I'm like, I'm sorry compared to

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that.
And so I think that's why I say

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it's a sign of our times.
Like we don't have any subtlety

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anymore as an American culture
it like we want to be just

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slapped in the face with our own
political beliefs so that we can

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feel good about ourselves.
And that's what that's what we

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got.
We got it good and hard Bob we

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got we got 1 battle after
another just a bad movie.

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The more I reflect on it, the
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I just listen, I don't think
it's a bad movie.

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I do think now, now we can put a
pin in 2025 and I can just

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definitively say I am not on
this train of like every year's

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a great year for movies.
Like 2025 was a down year for

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me.
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I mean, like there were good
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I don't think I saw any
transcendent 10 out of 10

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masterpieces the way.
There was no past lives.

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No past lives, no Oppenheimer,
no holdovers, no Anatomy of a

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Fall, no Godzilla minus. 1/20/23
was a freaking banner year for

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movies and the last two years
have not lived up to that.

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And that's OK.
Like we have these ebbs and

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flows.
But to your point, Brad, like

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There Will Be Blood did not win
the Oscar in 2008 for the year

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2007.
It's because 2007 was an

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incredible year for movies.
Like look at the nominees in

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2007.
You've got Michael Clayton,

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you've got There Will Be Blood,
you've got Atonement, you've got

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I believe Juno snuck in there.
And then the winner is No

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Country for Old Men.
That's like, that's a great

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lineup of best picture nominees
and not including the ones that

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didn't get in because we only
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And I think if one battle after
another comes out in 2007, it's

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not even nominated for best
picture.

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And I know that critics love it.
I know that people are telling

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you it's the best movie of the
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I just happen to disagree.
I thought it was a good movie,

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but like, kind of just like a
Nora last year.

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It's like, I just don't know if
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staying power where we look back
on this 10 years from now and

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think, like, oh, my God, one
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That movie year must have been
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Yeah.
I just don't see it man.

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I mean even Anora, I think Anora
was a way better film than one

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battle after another.
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Anora had a message that was
about the human soul and

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experience whereas 1 battle
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political like very shallow
piece of garbage so.

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Wow dude, I.
Bro.

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You're coming in spicy today.
And yet only in one of those

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films did anyone drink a few
small beers.

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Brad, that's.
Dude, Benicio is great.

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Like, I'm sorry, Benicio's
incredible in that movie.

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You know what I will give a
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I I Benicio Del Toro was
nominated for best supporting

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actor.
He did not win because Sean Penn

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won, which I know Brad probably
has a spicy take about that one

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as well.
I have said all year long, I

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think Benicio should have gotten
more attention for the Wes

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Anderson movie, The Phoenician
Scheme that came out this year

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'cause he's the star of that
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He is unbelievable in that
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And I think Brad, especially if
you're looking for movies that

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are like ultimately about the
human soul and experience, I

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would love for you to go back
and watch The Phoenician Scheme

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because it's Benicio, it's Wes
Anderson, and it's maybe Wes's

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best examination of like what it
means to be a person.

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And I, I think you'd really,
really like it.

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I wish that movie had gotten
more love this year.

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Yeah, I I remember you talking
about it when it came out.

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I never got around to it, which
should surprise 0 people.

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Yeah.
All right, let's let's get to

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the other big award for the
night, which I think was

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probably the most contested one,
which was best actor.

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Yeah, I will say I think this
was kind of a down year for

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movies.
Every performance in the best

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actor category was fantastic.
And I really could have seen

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this award going multiple
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So for a long time.
And and here's the thing about

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the Oscars is like, it's not
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it's a case of we're going to
nominate what we believe to be

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the five best or five
representative people here, and

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now they're going to spend two
months campaigning.

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And so it's this weird
combination of like, you know, a

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presidential election with the
campaign and how they run their

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campaign and how they position
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And, and like the performance
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It's like if American Idol was
they give one performance and

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then they spend two months
trying to convince you after the

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fact that they're a good person
instead of just like a

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performance and a vote.
And so, like, Timothy Chalamet

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had been in the lead for Marty
Supreme for essentially the

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entire Oscars race.
But there had been this sort of

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like, bubbling under the surface
that people were getting kind of

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sick of Timmy because the Marty
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started off with him
essentially, like, impersonating

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his character, who's like, a
very cocky asshole in the movie.

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And it took a long time for
people to figure out that, like,

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the reason that Chalamet was
acting so cocky was because he

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was trying to get, like, Gen.
Z to go see this movie, Marty

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Supreme.
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It made $100 million like that
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There's no way that movie should
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And it did.
But it left a bad taste in

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people's mouths.
And then he gave this interview

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a couple weeks ago where he said
something to the effect of,

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like, I want to help keep the
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I don't want the movies to
become irrelevant like ballet

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and opera.
And the people who were looking

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for outrage said we love ballet
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It's like, first of all, no you
don't.

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Do not buying tickets to the
ballet and the.

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Opera.
I saw a stat after that happened

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because even I heard about this
Bob, that I think it was like

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52% of American adults had been
to the movies in the last year

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and .7% of American adults had
been to the ballet or opera in

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the last year.
It's like the thing.

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People, I think people are
really starting to turn on

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Timmy.
This is bad for his image and

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his career.
Like he's, he's entering that

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weird Anne Hathaway zone where
like people hated Anne Hathaway

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for a while and she had to do
like a complete I, I don't know,

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it happened.
It happened, but I think it's

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because he's dating a Kardashian
and he seems to a lot of people

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and like, you know, this, he's
going to have to go back to the

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drawing board here.
I will also say I am in complete

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agreement with what he said.
If you actually listen to what

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he said, all he was saying was
like, I want to help keep the

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movies relevant.
He's not talking about like, is

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opera good or bad?
Is ballet good or bad?

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It's just the fact that like
culturally they do not have an

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impact anymore.
I'm sorry.

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Like he's right and I want a guy
who wants to champion the

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movies.
Like that's, that's just who I

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am.
That's what happens when you let

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crime run rampant in your
cities.

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Bob and a prominent family like
the Wayne's get shot and killed

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outside the opera.
I'm sorry.

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Listen, man, yeah, this is all
the Joker's fault.

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That's exactly what we're
saying.

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So anyway, all that to say,
Timmy was in the lead.

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He really lost the lead.
And in the last couple weeks,

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it's been like, who's going to
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Because we had the used to be
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called the Actor Awards.
Michael B Jordan wins best

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actor.
And everyone's like, Oh, we kind

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of forgot about this guy through
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background his his publicist,

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his like, you know, the
marketing team at Warner

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Brothers was pushing this
narrative of like, but he played

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twins because every like
anonymous Oscar voter article

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that I've seen over the last
couple weeks, they've been like,

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who you voting for for best
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And if it's Michael B Jordan,
it's like I'm voting for Michael

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B Jordan.
He played twins.

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That was like two different
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So it worked, man.
And Michael B Jordan wins best

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actor.
And I will say I really like

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Michael B Jordan.
And he seems like, you know,

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every report I've heard is like
he's a great person to work

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with.
He's a genuinely good dude.

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The the Academy seems to like
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And I think he has like movie
star charisma and persona.

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I don't think he was even the
best part of the movie Sinners.

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But like, I don't hate the win.
It's nice to see somebody under

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50 win this award for a change.
It gives me a little bit of hope

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for the future of Hollywood.
But I don't know, man, where,

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where are you at on the Michael
B Jordan win?

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I loved it.
I, I think he, you know, of all

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the, of all the best actor
movies I saw this year, I

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thought all two of them.
I thought he did a really good

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job.
I think it would have made sense

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if Leo got it.
I think that this would be

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another example of like if Leo
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I think he wins for one battle
after another, right?

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It is fascinating that there I
found myself thinking like, man,

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Leo got away from another Oscars
without a, without a little

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statue that like that was one of
my first thoughts when Michael B

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Jordan got it.
As far as Michael B himself

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goes, like that's great, man.
He's a great I, I can't even

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call him young anymore.
He's probably in his 40s,

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thirty.
He's like. 393839 Yeah.

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OK, yeah.
So I mean, he's got another 20

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to 30 years ahead of him.
I'm curious to see where he goes

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with this.
It's not quite an Emma Stone,

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though, who has won, like, what,
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So I, you know, we've got some
young people, Bob.

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There's hope.
You can hold on.

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It does.
Remind me a little bit of like

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when Jamie Foxx won for Ray and
I think Jamie Foxx is better in

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Ray than than Michael B Jordan
is in Sinners.

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But it's been a long time since
like just an objectively cool

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guy, one best actor and a guy
that like is going to go make

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movies that aren't Oscari movies
and open those movies to a lot

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of box office because he's just
a cool guy.

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Like, Will Smith wins his Oscar
in horrific fashion a couple

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years ago, but he had also kind
of already crested as like a

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cool guy that you go see in the
movies.

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So it's it really is nice to see
somebody that's still kind of on

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top in the movie star.
Like he's still got the juice,

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you know what I mean?
When you're when your wife is

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openly cheating on you, I I
think your your peak was a while

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ago but.
Yeah, dude, we, we don't support

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cucks financially the way that
we do other one.

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Thing America is still not down
with.

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No, not at all.
All right, man, listen, I don't

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want to give a full list of the
Academy Award winners from

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tonight.
There was 24 different

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categories.
We already talked about the two

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biggest winners in one battle
and sinners.

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I think Frankenstein wins three
Oscars below the line, which is

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great.
You know, like they love

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Guillermo del Toro in the
Academy.

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I thought that movie kind of
sucked, but like, what are you

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going to do, you know?
I will say Jessie Buckley, I did

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not see Ham Net.
I really liked her speech out of

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every person who won an award.
I just was like, wow.

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She just talked about the beauty
of motherhood and how thankful

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she is to be a mom and make a
movie about moms.

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And thank you Academy.
I was like I was in.

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I want to go see Hamnet now.
First of all, Hamnet pretty

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good.
Jessie Buckley, all time great

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performer.
Like, it is really crushing.

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Dude.
She's so good in that movie that

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for the entirety of awards, she
won every award.

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Like no one has even remotely
challenged her this entire award

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season.
And so to get to the finish line

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and have people still like you
this much says a lot about how

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good that performance was.
And she's a great actress.

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So it's nice to see her like,
finally get an Oscar here.

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Here's my question.
Is voting for the Oscars open

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through all of these other
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So some of the awards are like,
I don't, you know, everything's

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a precursor, right?
But some of the awards are kind

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of like where we whittle down
what's going to get nominated.

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So at the very end of the the
calendar year, you'll have your

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critics guilds give their awards
out.

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And that kind of gives us a
sense of like, here's going to

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be the major players, like 1
battle after another is winning

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everything.
That's probably going to be a

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major player, you know, sinners,
whatever it might be.

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And then you get to the
beginning of January, and some

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of the Oscar categories have
what's called short lists.

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So like, I don't know, like the
visual effects category.

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Well, I don't know if that's one
of them or not, but that's where

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the 400 movies like that could
be.

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Yeah.
Like the just the visual effects

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department of the Oscars will
say like, hey, we're going to

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focus our nominees on this list
of like, 20 movies.

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And we think that this is the
short list.

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Let's pick 5 from this.
Now, not everything is voted on

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that way, but then you kind of
get into the early awards like

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the Golden Globes and the Sags
and everything else, and that

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kind of helps narrow down what's
going to get nominated.

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And so when the Academy Award
nominations come out in mid

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January, it's like, OK, here's
the nominees.

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I think there's a couple weeks
off and then voting opens.

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But even if voting's not open,
all those other award ceremonies

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are part of your Oscar campaign.
Like if you win a Golden Globe,

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it's nice to have a Golden
Globe.

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Your speech better be damn good
because it's your first chance

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to impress Academy voters.
You know what I mean?

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So like, it's, it's interesting
how they do it.

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I wish there weren't so many
award shows because then by the

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time we get to the Oscars, like
everyone, it's March, dude.

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Like, I don't care about 2025
anymore.

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I want to watch 2026 Movies Now.
Yeah, that, that is interesting.

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I, I feel like it would be
better for the voting if it was

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just like before all the other
awards.

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Now I know that you lose all the
gossip and like hype around it.

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Then to me, if you want a pure
like vote just based on the

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performance, not on if Timotei
is talking about ballet and and

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opera.
Like you got to vote right after

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nominations are put out and not
let all this other stuff

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influence you.
I know that that's not our

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culture, but.
Yeah, and, and I'm in, I'm the

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same way, but mostly because it
doesn't make sense practically

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for like the movie's
performance, like because of the

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way movies are released.
It used to be that like

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Christmas was the big Oscar
push.

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And so movies that hadn't come
out yet, it was like, we'll drop

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it at Christmas.
It'll get a ton of end of year

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buzz.
It will get an Oscar nomination

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out of that.
And then that'll really spike

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this movie's performance 'cause
it's still in theaters from

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three weeks before, right.
And now it's like some of these

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movies don't even release wide.
Because it's such a small movie

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that they're only hoping for
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And so if it doesn't get any
Oscar nominations, they'll just

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kind of dump it and they don't
lose that much money and no

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one's heard of it and no one's
seen it until mid January.

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And then they'll finally be
like, here you go Ohio.

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You can have one theater showing
this movie now that it's

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nominated for Oscars.
It's really screwed up the like

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the economics of the Oscars.
Because if I've never heard of

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it, I like me personally.
I get curious.

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I'll go see that movie.
But like John and Jane Doe in

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Ohio, they're looking at the.
List of like.

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Right, like what's nominated for
best picture and it's like it's

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January.
I didn't hear about this movie

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all of last year.
Like I don't understand.

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And so I'm I'm with you.
I think that like nominations

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should happen and the, the
Oscars should happen soon after

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that because the only thing that
gives these movies the potential

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for a box office bump is an
Oscar win.

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And so to have the, the
nominations come out mid January

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and the awards not happen until
mid March, there's two months

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where most of America is not
even thinking about these

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movies.
They're certainly not in

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theaters anymore.
We're not going to see them.

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They're not making more money.
So you're just giving yourself 8

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weeks to like hobnob with people
in LA and it just like it.

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By the time they actually get
awarded, the relevance of those

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movies has declined
significantly in terms of like

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public discourse.
I mean, if there's anything we

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know about people in LA, though,
Bob, it's that they like to

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hobnob with people in LA.
They sure, sure do, man.

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Brad, we are here today not to
talk about the Oscars.

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We're here to talk about the
season 10 bracket challenge,

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which I want to get to here in
60 seconds, but I want to turn

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it over to you.
I've been doing a lot of talking

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here, overall impressions of
this year's Oscars, and did it

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inspire you to go watch anything
that you have not seen yet?

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A ham nut.
I, I, I really enjoyed Jesse

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Buckley.
I'm curious to, to see that.

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I, I think that the overall the
Oscars were nice.

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There's only a few people who
like got up on their political

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soapbox and I was like, OK,
whatever, let's let's move on.

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It was enjoyable.
I I think I'd watch the Oscars

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again, Bob.
We did it.

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I will.
Say we did it the.

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The tribute to Rob Reiner was
really beautiful.

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How did I forget?
Bob?

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Bob, this is the most important
thing that happened at the

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Oscars last night during the In
Memoriam section.

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Our boy Robert Duvall sadly
passed away last year.

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And do you want to know, do you
want to take a guess as to what

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movie they pulled from for his?
Like, here's the dude.

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Here's the line that represents
Robert Duvall.

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Of all the Robert like the
Godfather, The Godfather too,

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like the Great Santini, I don't
know, freaking like To Kill a

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Mockingbird.
Boo Radley.

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This is Robert Duvall and the
movie they pull for him.

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Brad second hand Lions.
What are the greatest movies of

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all time?
Bob I literally.

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Jumped out of my seat and like
cheered.

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I was so freaking jazzed.
That's what I will just send you

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like the Vin Diesel GIF of him
just saying like the movies.

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Yes, that's what the movies are
about.

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Is Brad jumping out of his chair
at the In Memoriam?

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First of all, not not the
etiquette you're supposed to

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have during the In Memoriam
segment.

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If I had been in whatever
theater they were in, everybody

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would have been like, this guy
needs to.

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Be escorted out of here right
now.

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It's a little bit better than
like when I, I was telling my

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buddy, we were talking about
when Robert Duvall died and his

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only frame of reference is the
Family Guy episode where they're

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all about to drown and, and
Peter does the I don't like the

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Godfather.
It insists upon itself because

447
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,960
Chris's reaction is just Robert
Duvall.

448
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,760
Like he just screams Robert
Duvall.

449
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,560
That was my buddy's reaction.
And I was like, oh, did you see

450
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,440
Robert Duvall died?
Robert Duvall.

451
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:34,000
The guy that Chris screams
about, well, it's good though.

452
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,080
It's good to know that you have
friends who are less informed

453
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,080
about cinema than me that that
makes me feel.

454
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,960
I, I want to have an Oscars
party one of these years, not

455
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,640
because I care that much about
the actual broadcast, but just

456
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,320
because, like, it's fun to get
together and have a party, but

457
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,160
like, nobody watches movies
anymore, Brad.

458
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,120
It's just me and you, dude.
I was to say Zach would have to

459
00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:58,200
come up from Kentucky and it'd
be you, me and him drinking

460
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,960
whiskey alone, cheering in a
room, cheering about Robert

461
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,880
Duvall's death.
All right, dude, it's time for

462
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,600
us to get into the Season 10
bracket.

463
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,440
What do you say, dude?
Let's get to it, man, I'm ready.

464
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,360
All right, Brad, it's bracket
time.

465
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,720
It's time for the moment, we're
actually here for today.

466
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,600
Let's.
Freaking go man I'm ready.

467
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,200
Listen, every season I only do
the movie reviews to get us to

468
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,720
bracket challenge time.
That's right, Brad, this is this

469
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,680
is by far the best and most fun
series of episodes every season.

470
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,640
Absolutely.
And I think part of that is

471
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,080
because there's there's a
structure to it, but there's so

472
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,040
much chaos thrown into the
structure that it's just like,

473
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,400
I'm just winging this thing with
my friend here and we're going

474
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,400
to see how mad we can get each
other.

475
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,000
Yeah.
And I have a feeling, Bob, that

476
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,560
we're going to get pretty.
And by we, I mean you are going

477
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,800
to get pretty heated this this
first episode.

478
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,280
It's going to be a crazy one.
Let's take a step back because

479
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,360
it's possible that someone has
never listened to a bracket

480
00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:07,000
challenge episode of ours
before.

481
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,840
So the way this works is each of
our seasons are structured by

482
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,280
reviewing 32 movies so that at
the end of each season, we can

483
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,960
put those movies into a madness
style bracket.

484
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,680
Now, the timing this time is
super fortuitous.

485
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,200
Brad.
I don't know if our bracket

486
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,000
Challenge episodes have ever
coincided with March Madness,

487
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,760
The real March Madness.
I don't think.

488
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,800
So, but this is freaking great.
We're going to get so much

489
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,600
content out of this.
I'm excited.

490
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:33,520
So the way we're going to do it
folks, is we're breaking this

491
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,800
across 3 episodes over the next
three weeks.

492
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,320
So the last episode, the
championship matchup of this

493
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,880
bracket, will be coming to you
on March 31st.

494
00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:47,640
So today we're just going
through the round of 32.

495
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,000
Next time around we're going to
do the round of 16 and 8 and

496
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,080
then the final episode we'll get
to the final four and our

497
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,920
championship match up.
Now, the operative assumption as

498
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,800
we talk about these movies is
that when they're facing each

499
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,400
other in a match up, you have to
ask yourself which one of these

500
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,840
movies, if one of them had to
get thrown into the fiery chasm,

501
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,640
the pits of hell to be
completely annihilated and never

502
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,480
seen again?
And you have to choose one.

503
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,080
Which movie would that be?
Sometimes it's very easy for us

504
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,000
to throw something in the fiery
chasm.

505
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,840
Other times, Brad, it really is
like choosing between two of

506
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,520
your own children and trying to
decide which of these two things

507
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,840
I love has to get destroyed in
front of me.

508
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,800
That would be.
It's a harrowing experience,

509
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,120
that.
'D be harder for you, Bob,

510
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:37,880
because you only have two kids.
For me, I would at least.

511
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,400
Have two kids leftover.
You've got her.

512
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,160
You've got a spare.
Is that what you're saying?

513
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,800
Yeah, exactly.
That's great.

514
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,080
Now, OK, we're going to go
through the bracket here in just

515
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,280
a moment, and I guess to explain
how it is seeded.

516
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,040
The number one seed in our
bracket really did earn that

517
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,800
spot.
So at the end of every episode

518
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,240
when we review a movie, we give
it a score out of 10.

519
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,560
So a movie will have Brad and my
score out of 10.

520
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,640
And it's very easy to kind of
sort, hey, which movies did the

521
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,880
best at the end of the season.
Sometimes we'll have like 2

522
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,560
movies that came out to an
average of a nine out of 10.

523
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,640
And in order to determine the
tiebreaker between those two,

524
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,760
we'll go to the IMDb score so
that we kind of have like an

525
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,040
audience vote.
So whichever one has a higher

526
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,320
IMDb score gets the bump.
Now we've got a nice ordered

527
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:26,720
list of movies.
But what we figured out in the

528
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,880
first couple seasons of doing
this is that sometimes just

529
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,520
because you gave a movie a 9
1/2, just because you respect a

530
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:38,120
movie, doesn't mean that it's
one of those ones that that has

531
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,360
your heart.
Absolutely.

532
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,000
If you're holding 2 movies over
the edge, sometimes you'd drop a

533
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,680
9 1/2 movie instead of an 8 1/2
movie.

534
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,360
And for that reason, at the end
of every season, Brad and I go

535
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,360
through and do kind of our heart
list, our vibes based list of

536
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,800
just here's how I would rank
these on this particular day

537
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,560
based on nothing but vibes.
So we come, we come away with

538
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,120
three different lists.
We average the ranking of all

539
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,280
those three lists to come out to
our final seating.

540
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,440
And it's very complicated.
It's way more work than it

541
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,440
probably needs to be for
something like this, Brad.

542
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,240
But I'll tell you what, It
produces a bracket that neither

543
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,720
of us like at the end of the
day.

544
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,680
And I think that's a sign that
it's like the perfect bracket.

545
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,240
It often does.
And like, if there's not a

546
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:28,560
better sign of our our entering
middle age, if not our love for

547
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,840
a good spreadsheet, complicated
formulas that like this is

548
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,200
absolutely beautiful in my
opinion.

549
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,400
You know, we say complicated
formulas we could definitely

550
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,920
just use like the auto sum
feature.

551
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,720
It's it's the most basic of all
formulas on Excel.

552
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:48,520
It's, and I love it for that,
the meme from Hangover when he's

553
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:53,200
doing all the math in his head.
How do I average 3 numbers?

554
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,360
Yeah, dude.
All right, I think it's time for

555
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,480
us to dive into this bracket.
Any final thoughts before we

556
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,440
start revealing what the bracket
is and what it looks like?

557
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:08,000
Curious since most of these
movies other than two are movies

558
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:13,160
we did in season 1.
Did did Pulp Fiction win our

559
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,640
first bracket?
Or was it Vertigo?

560
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,600
I can't remember.
I'm fairly certain it was Pulp

561
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,200
Fiction.
I remember making like the

562
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,760
little announcement picture to
put on Instagram.

563
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,240
So I believe Pulp Fiction was
our winner the first time

564
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,880
around.
And that's a great point.

565
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,880
Every movie except for two that
we are doing this season is a

566
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,840
revisit movie now.
We had a couple movies that did

567
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,960
not qualify for this season that
we replaced with this year's 2O

568
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,080
frontrunners, Sinners and 1
Battle After Another.

569
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,000
You can go back and listen to
those episodes.

570
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,120
And you've just listened to the
Oscar recap, so I assume some

571
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,640
Oscar gold was at play between
those two movies.

572
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,000
Hi Brad.
I think it's time for us to dive

573
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,440
into this.
I'm going to go ahead and share

574
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,000
my screen just for a moment so
that if people are watching

575
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,840
this, they can see the bracket
themselves.

576
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,240
I'll take it down in a moment.
If you would like to download

577
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,760
your own bracket and follow
along, you can find it at

578
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,560
filmwhiskey.com.
It's right there up on the

579
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,240
banner Season 10 bracket.
The nice thing is that since

580
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,280
we're only doing the first round
matchups, you still have time to

581
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,640
fill out your bracket and let us
know who would win your Season

582
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,120
10 bracket.
Brad, let's do it, man I'm

583
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,320
ready.
I'm pulling up the bracket here.

584
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,080
Let's take a look at it.
And we're going to be starting

585
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,360
here up in the upper left
quadrant as we always do.

586
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,000
Our number one seed for season
#10 is Alfred Hitchcock's

587
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,440
Vertigo, dude.
Now, I think we should make a

588
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:42,920
quick note that after all three
of our lists got averaged, our

589
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:47,640
1-2 and three overall seeds were
still tied for points.

590
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,520
That's how good the top three
movies in this bracket are

591
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,160
compared to everything else.
And it, it was kind of painful

592
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,800
to have to decide which one to
put at #1 So we ended up using a

593
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,720
randomizer.
And you know, I have no say in

594
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,680
it at this point, Brad.
It is in Fate's hands.

595
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,720
The randomizer said that Vertigo
is the number one seed of season

596
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,960
10.
And a very well deserving.

597
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,080
There's a reason I couldn't
remember if it was Vertigo or

598
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,360
Pulp Fiction that won our entire
bracket.

599
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,120
Interestingly enough, Pulp
Fiction, our fourth seed in this

600
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,400
bracket.
Yeah, I thought that was very

601
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,360
interesting.
That's The funny thing about

602
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,440
these brackets too, is I think I
was lower on Pulp Fiction than

603
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,240
you were.
I want to say it was like my six

604
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,960
overall seed, but it was like
it's my six seed.

605
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,680
It's not like I gave it a bad
ranking.

606
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,960
And yet because these other
three films were so high between

607
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,080
the two of us, they came out
ahead.

608
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,240
So Vertigo is going to be our
number one seed and it's going

609
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:51,560
up against a kind of surprising
32 seed, 1 battle after another,

610
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,560
which we've just talked about
now.

611
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,200
This was a movie that Brad and
I, you know, Brad liked it less

612
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,280
than I did.
I think I came out to an 8 out

613
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,800
of 10.
I like it fine.

614
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,000
Brad was a little cooler on it
than I was and because of that

615
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,240
the average came out to I think
something as low as a 7.25 for

616
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,520
us.
Which is.

617
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,600
Pretty low.
Your vibes list was also not

618
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,960
kind to 1 battle after another
Brad.

619
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,040
Yeah, I I'm pretty sure it was
my lowest ranked film and I but

620
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,040
I will say this is a this is a
composite this you had your vibe

621
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,240
ranking in there.
We had IMDb in there like I I

622
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,520
don't think 1 battle after
another is quite as historic as

623
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,440
people are making it out to be.
Yeah, I do not find it to be the

624
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,160
transcendent masterpiece that
everyone is claiming it's going

625
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,600
to be.
And I, I kind of always like,

626
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,920
balk at this idea that, like, I
can pinpoint the year something

627
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,680
comes out, what's going to be
remembered 15 years from now.

628
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,080
There's only a few times that
people have been able to

629
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,400
accurately call that.
And I just I don't see one

630
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,280
battle after another being one
of those movies.

631
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,240
And because of that, Brad, I
think this is a pretty easy

632
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,720
first match up in the round of
32.

633
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,320
So I'm going to take Vertigo
here, the number one seed to

634
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,360
move on.
What do you think?

635
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,000
Yeah, I'm also going to pick
Vertigo, Bob.

636
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,000
That's an easy, easy moving on.
Vertigo's one of the best films

637
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,880
ever made, so.
Yeah.

638
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,920
Now we go from that to a match
up that I think will immediately

639
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,480
spark debate and hatred between
us because we're talking about

640
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,760
the number 16 overall seed.
We're talking right in the

641
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:30,520
middle of the bracket here.
Yeah #16 seed Star Wars Colon, A

642
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:35,840
New Hope episode 4, A New Hope
versus the number 17 seed, The

643
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,440
Shawshank Redemption at before
we get to the headline here,

644
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,360
which is why is Star Wars at 16?
Let's let's get Shawshank out of

645
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,280
the way too.
Shawshank is a movie that you

646
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,960
and I have kind of grappled with
over the seasons because you

647
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,520
know, it's, it's IMD BS top
rated movie of all time.

648
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,280
It's a movie that I think
everyone on earth would agree is

649
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,840
like a nine out of 10.
And because of that, it's always

650
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,720
ranked at at #1 on IMDb.
There's was just a really funny

651
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:05,120
instance of something like this
happening a few weeks ago on

652
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,600
IMDb where there was an episode
of Breaking Bad that has a 10

653
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,680
point O.
It was the only episode in TV

654
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,360
history that had a 10 point O
for years and years.

655
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,800
And then a bunch of Game of
Thrones fans went on and review

656
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,760
bombed it down to like a 9.7.
And it was this long

657
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,400
conversation about fans of other
things review bombing.

658
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,040
And that's actually how
Shawshank got up to #1 was that

659
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:31,280
it had been the Godfather for
the longest time.

660
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,120
And I think when The Dark Knight
came out, the Nolan fan Bros and

661
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,240
the Batman fan Bros wanted that
movie to be #1 so badly that

662
00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:43,640
they started giving The
Godfather one star reviews to

663
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,520
tank it really.
And then Shawshank is just like,

664
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,120
no one wants to give Shawshank
A1.

665
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,320
So they're like, you know, it
could, it could be #1 that's

666
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,160
fine.
I will say they showed it on TV

667
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,280
last week.
And that's a, that's a very

668
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,240
intense movie.
But I was flipping through the

669
00:35:57,240 --> 00:36:00,880
channels and it was right at the
part where Andy escaped.

670
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,960
And then Red gets out and goes
to Zejuata Nejo.

671
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,080
And I was like, hey, my 9 year
old come watch the end of this

672
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,880
movie with me.
And so he watched Andy crawl to

673
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,720
freedom.
I turn the channel when the

674
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:14,440
warden shoots himself.
I don't want, you know, I see

675
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,080
that.
And he sees sees Red get his

676
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,760
freedom too.
And I was like, you know what?

677
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,080
This is a pretty great movie,
dude.

678
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,960
I'm not going to lie.
Like, it's a it's a really good

679
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,760
movie.
I don't think it's the best

680
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,480
movie ever made, but I also
don't think we need to hold it

681
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,240
to that standard all the time.
No, it feels like it's in a

682
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:39,280
weird similar vibe to Citizens
Kane where like it has this aura

683
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,800
of like it's been the IMDb
number one movie for like 15

684
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,960
years now. 20 years.
I guess if it's around when The

685
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,680
Dark Knight came out that was
2008 since it's insane to me

686
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,800
that we have to hold it to this
crazy high standard.

687
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,480
Like you said, it is so
incredibly well made paired with

688
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,120
being very likable and uplifting
that no, like nobody's going to

689
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,480
give it a one.
Like there's a few trolls out

690
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,040
there, but it also isn't
standing up against something

691
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,840
like The Dark Knight where you
have a crazy passionate fan

692
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,360
brace.
That's like F Shawshank.

693
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:18,040
It needs to go kick rocks.
We're going to, you know, review

694
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,600
bomb it.
It'll never have anybody do

695
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,160
that.
So, so here we are.

696
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:23,520
It's great.
That's a great flick.

697
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,760
Talking about crazy, passionate
fan bases that will go to bat

698
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:32,880
for their movie Star Wars at #16
and not just any fan base.

699
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,000
Perhaps the craziest of all fan
bases.

700
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:37,440
That's rude, Bob.
I do.

701
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,440
Well, I was going to say I do
want to set you aside from the

702
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,560
rabidness of the fan base
because you don't really care

703
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,640
that much anymore.
Because I think you've accepted

704
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,520
that Disney has just ruined
everything at this point.

705
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,040
But you'll still go to bat for
the original trilogy.

706
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,760
Would you say that Episode 4 is
the most near and dear to your

707
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,160
heart of any Star Wars movie or
no?

708
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,840
No, I would.
That's really tough because I,

709
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,720
you know, I saw the the prequels
in theaters.

710
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,320
I skipped school for the first
time to go see a movie to see

711
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,040
Episode 3.
So in some ways, I would say

712
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,160
episode 3 is near and dear to my
heart.

713
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,400
Probably this is man, this is so
hard.

714
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,920
I there's a world where Empire
Strikes Back is one of my is

715
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,720
probably near and dearest.
But there's something about

716
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:33,640
Return of the Jedi that the
ending of that film just like

717
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:39,760
grabs me on a soul level.
I, I will say that this time

718
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,120
through, when I watched it for
the podcast, I think I was more

719
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,240
aware of its flaws than ever
before.

720
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,200
I still, I think I gave it a 9.5
if not a 10 sure.

721
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:57,320
So like, I, I still think it is
a nearly perfect movie that did

722
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,240
so much for the world of cinema
at large.

723
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:04,440
And so I, I still think that,
you know, Shawshank has had a

724
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:10,760
cultural impact because of meme
culture and like imitating

725
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,000
Morgan, like imitating Morgan
Freeman as a narrator, Like it's

726
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,880
like meme culture in that or
like crawling through poop to

727
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,960
get to your freedom.
So it's like it's got meme

728
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,640
culture, It's got the IMDb
mystique, but I don't think it

729
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,040
has the cultural impact that
Star Wars had.

730
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,640
I think it kind of pales in
comparison.

731
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,560
So for me, this is like an easy
I'm moving Star Wars on.

732
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,520
Yeah, this is a hard one for me
because I also think that

733
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,320
Episode 4 might be my least
favorite movie.

734
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,600
Of all time.
Of any of the six that Lucas was

735
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,000
involved in, and I don't think
it's the worst one.

736
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,720
I think episode 1 is like
significantly worse than episode

737
00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:53,080
4.
But I I said this in the

738
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,120
episode, man, I think episode 4
is kind of amateurish.

739
00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:58,840
Like I just think that there's a
ton of stuff in that first movie

740
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,760
that was saved by the edit.
There's a pretty famous instance

741
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,000
where Lucas shows all of his
film maker friends, you know,

742
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:10,080
Scorsese, De Palma, Coppola,
Spielberg, a rough cut of it.

743
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,800
And they were like.
This sucks, dude, like what are

744
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,400
you doing?
And only Spielberg saw the

745
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,440
potential in it.
And then, you know, they edit

746
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,640
it.
They had the music, it becomes

747
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,200
Star Wars.
But I think a lot of that

748
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,520
amateurishness can't be taken
out of the movie.

749
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,920
It's edited in a way that you
don't notice it as much if

750
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,000
you're caught up in it.
And for me, Episode 1 is a worse

751
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,680
movie with a lot more technical
mastery than episode 4.

752
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,040
I think I came away this time
giving it like an 8 and then I

753
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,560
did my vibes list and I was
like, I am once again swayed by

754
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,160
not trying to hurt Brad's
feelings.

755
00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:50,120
I I dislike episode 4.
I don't think it's a bad movie,

756
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,960
I just don't like it.
I think it's poorly made.

757
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:58,680
Episode 5 is a masterpiece.
Return of the Jedi is flawed,

758
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,120
but I have a better time with
it.

759
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,800
And so I think for me, I'm going
to move Shawshank on.

760
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,040
And it's only because Shawshank
is like a nine.

761
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,520
I don't feel passionately about
Shawshank.

762
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,720
It's just like, I think it's
better and I have to move it on.

763
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:16,800
And that means that, Brad, I
need you to introduce the Deus

764
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,600
Ex machina here that we have
called the Coin of Destiny.

765
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:25,200
The the Mary Sue itself, the
Coin of Destiny, it used to be.

766
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,680
I haven't found it in a while.
Oh, I just found it.

767
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,520
Bob, give me one second.
The real coin of destiny.

768
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,000
I literally was cleaning off my
bookshelf next to me the other

769
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,600
day and I must have revealed it
from behind some books.

770
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,680
We have a coin of destiny.
This is not a sponsorship but it

771
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:48,080
is a we like these guys.
It is for Lucky 7.

772
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,000
If you can see the video I'm
showing it on camera.

773
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,080
Lucky 7 distillery.
Are they down in Tennessee or

774
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,880
are they Kentucky?
They source their stuff.

775
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:56,960
I think they're in Kentucky
though.

776
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,280
OK, anyways, Lucky 7 Distillery
sent us this coin, I think in

777
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,760
season 1.
And so from the start this has

778
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:10,720
been a coin that we flip.
Now the heads is the Lucky 7

779
00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:16,800
logo and then the tails is the
word spelled out.

780
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,400
So that's our heads, that's our
tails.

781
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,080
It is the coin of destiny.
It does decide who.

782
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,080
It doesn't decide which movie
gets thrown into the fire.

783
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,600
Inferno Bob.
What it actually decides is who

784
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,560
God has favor upon you or
myself.

785
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,440
That's true Now, as the slightly
higher ranked seed, Star Wars is

786
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,720
going to be heads and Shawshank
will be tails, and that means

787
00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:45,160
it's time Brad for supremacy
over each other.

788
00:42:45,160 --> 00:43:00,960
Flip that coin, all right?
We have a heads Star Wars

789
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,240
moving.
On man by the skin of its teeth.

790
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:06,760
Dude, Star Wars is moving on
into the second round.

791
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:07,920
I'm going to make a note of
that.

792
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,600
And we have to say goodbye to
The Shawshank Redemption.

793
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,400
Andy did not, in fact, make it
out of the tunnel of poop where

794
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,120
he drowned a horrible death.
Yikes.

795
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,360
It was a real Oregon Trail
situation for him.

796
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,520
All right, man, that's probably
going to be the longest debate

797
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,320
we're going to have today, I
would hope.

798
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,160
So it's time for us to move on
to one that is very easy for me,

799
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:33,280
and that is the #9 overall seed
West Side Story up against the

800
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,600
24 seed Forrest Gump.
Now, again, Forrest Gump kind of

801
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,320
falls into that Shawshank thing
where most people think it's

802
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,360
like an 8 out of 10, nine out of
10 movie.

803
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,640
It does have its detractors for
being as big and cheesy as it

804
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,040
is.
I think the story for me here,

805
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,960
Brad, is how West Side Story got
all the way down to our nine

806
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,840
seed.
Because on your vibes list, you

807
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,600
ranked it pretty low after
giving it either a 9 1/2 or a 10

808
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,560
out of 10 on the episode.
So, you know, explain yourself

809
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,320
man.
I I really like West Side Story.

810
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:13,920
It's a really fun movie that is
bright and bombastic and fun.

811
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,600
I it just doesn't, I don't know,
man.

812
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,720
It's not my, it's not my movie.
It's not my musical.

813
00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:24,320
I didn't grow up with it.
There's something about it that

814
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,600
I'm like, yeah, this is great.
It it feels how you feel about

815
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,800
Shawshank, where I'm like, yeah,
this is this is a great movie.

816
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,960
I recognize the technical
brilliance.

817
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,240
It's well written, great
performances, but it doesn't

818
00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:41,120
hold like any impetus over my
soul.

819
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,840
So I'm kind of like, yeah, you
know, it just.

820
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,640
Suffered a little bit.
It's one of those movies where

821
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,760
like you've got the movie itself
and then you've got like the joy

822
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:53,360
of watching, as our friend Zach
Johnston would say, watching

823
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,920
cinema cinema.
And I don't just mean like the

824
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,600
machinery, because sometimes,
like with Shawshank, I respect

825
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,160
the machinery of Shawshank, but
like it doesn't really capture

826
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,360
me the way some other movies do
West Side stories like, yes, the

827
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,280
machinery is there.
And then there's this layer of

828
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,320
just like, oh, I'm watching like
a Dutch master at work here.

829
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,200
You know what I mean?
Like it's just, it's, it's just.

830
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,680
Why a Dutch master Bob I?
Don't know.

831
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,720
I'm trying to think of painters
and I'm I'm mixing them up with

832
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:23,760
machinery.
Now I'm watching.

833
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,040
There you go, this metaphor.
All right, dude, I'm going to

834
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,880
put West Side Story on here.
Do you have any qualms about

835
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,680
that with your vibes list?
Should Forrest Gump make it on

836
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,360
over West Side Story?
I mean, I think there's a world

837
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,760
where West Side Story makes all
the sense in the world.

838
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,840
I think I moved Forrest Gump on
Man, I just.

839
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,640
Dude, no.
I just, I just like Jenny.

840
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,760
I want to see her move on in the
bracket.

841
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,680
Now is this totally vibes based
because I'm almost positive you

842
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,960
gave West Side Story a better
score than Forrest Gump.

843
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:05,600
I'm sure that I did.
We we can Fact Check this really

844
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:11,840
quickly.
Forrest Gump Oh, I guess we

845
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,240
there it is.
Sorry Forrest Gump I gave a nine

846
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:18,720
out of 10 and West Side Story I
gave a 9.5.

847
00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:21,440
So I I did give it a higher
score.

848
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,200
Close enough.
Yeah, not by a lot.

849
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:28,760
I think, once again, that
Forrest Gump, this is kind of

850
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,120
the reverse of the last one.
Forrest Gump has lived on in

851
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:38,800
meme culture in a lot of ways.
And I also think that just

852
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,320
purely on vibes, I gotta pick
Forrest Gump, man.

853
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,560
It, it's just such, I really
hate this.

854
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,160
Yeah.
It's just such an incredible.

855
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,440
So much because you won the last
one.

856
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,040
I'm I would like to think that
I'm due for a win, but I I don't

857
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,000
think that's gonna happen.
So that's not how West Side

858
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,640
Story.
That's not how.

859
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,200
That's not how Destiny works.
No, it's not.

860
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,560
West Side Story is the higher
seed.

861
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,360
It will be heads.
Forrest Gump will be tails.

862
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,960
Brad, flip the coin of Destiny
and also I hate you so much.

863
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:21,320
Man, man, Bob, you should not
hate me anymore because we have

864
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:21,960
another.
Head.

865
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,520
Thank God.
Yeah, screw you, Forrest Gump.

866
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,800
And West Side Story is moving
on.

867
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,200
I listened.
Back to our Forrest Gump episode

868
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,280
the other day in the car, and it
is first of all, it's a blast.

869
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,040
But I just talked for the whole
first half of the episode about

870
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,360
how quotable Forrest Gump is,
especially out of context.

871
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,960
Yes, it is absolutely one of the
most quotable movies.

872
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,880
We added Anchorman on to this
season, also one of the most

873
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,320
quotable movies of all time.
I think we have some some great

874
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,640
quotable films this season and
season 1 by.

875
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,840
Well, we have one less now
because Forrest Gump is gonzo.

876
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,880
And that takes us to our next
match up here.

877
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,040
The number 8 seed, the Tree of
Life up against the number 25

878
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:11,160
seed, To Kill a Mockingbird.
Now, the tree of Life is also, I

879
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,040
think, victim for me.
Brad, of.

880
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,640
We had a guest on our podcast,
Bilga Ibiri, one of the world's

881
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,040
most esteemed film critics.
And he, I mean, just gushed

882
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,000
about the movie.
Yeah.

883
00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:25,800
And I can see why in the moment,
we all gave that movie a 10 out

884
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:30,400
of 10 because I think the
totality of it, it's like, such

885
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:35,920
a towering accomplishment.
But like the first 40 minutes

886
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,200
and the last and and like
moments in the middle and then

887
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,440
the last like 10 minutes are
incredible.

888
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,680
But there's about an hour and a
half in there somewhere that

889
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,680
you've got to be really
committed to make it through.

890
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,120
Yep.
And you really do, if you ask

891
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,000
me, on any given day, like, do
you want to fire up the tree of

892
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,400
life?
It's not, that's not going to be

893
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:54,640
one of them.
You know what I mean?

894
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,120
So like, it's a 10.
That's also not a 10 for me.

895
00:48:58,240 --> 00:48:59,320
I don't know if that makes
sense.

896
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,400
Yeah.
It does make sense.

897
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,400
I mean, even Vertigo, like, I'd
be more likely to fire up

898
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,040
Vertigo.
But Vertigo's a heavy movie,

899
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,880
man.
I'm not just going to whip that

900
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,560
up on a random Thursday night
and be like, yeah, it's time to

901
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,920
watch, talk, watch Jimmy just,
like, slowly lose his mind.

902
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,640
That sounds great.
I will say on the opposite side

903
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,120
of Tree of Life though, we have
To Kill a Mockingbird, which

904
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,160
while you and I have said like
one of the greatest courtroom

905
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:26,800
scenes of all time, like hands
down, it's right up there with

906
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:31,800
like You Can't Handle the truth.
Not the best movie overall.

907
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,040
No, and I think that that it
felt a lot creakier this time

908
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,600
around in getting through what
it tried to do.

909
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,880
I don't think it ever found the
balance the way the book does

910
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,960
between the innocence of
childhood being shattered and

911
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,960
the realities of the world and
you know what the themes that

912
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,520
it's trying to accomplish.
And I will say, first of all,

913
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,960
RIP Robert Duvall, whose first
screen role was here in this

914
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,600
movie as Boo Radley.
I hate to see that go into the

915
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:04,120
fiery chasm here, Brad, but I
think Tree of Life does move on

916
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,720
here, although I am marking it
for a potential upset in the

917
00:50:07,720 --> 00:50:11,440
next round.
Just because I it doesn't, it

918
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,640
doesn't capture my heart the way
others do.

919
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,880
Totally.
I and I, I would argue it

920
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,000
captures my heart a little bit
more, but that's be rombly

921
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,720
because I love Jesus and I'm a
better human being than you.

922
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,840
So.
All right, well, that is the end

923
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,160
of that quadrant.
So our first four entries into

924
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:35,880
the round of 16 are Vertigo,
Star Wars, West Side Story, and

925
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,040
The Tree of Life, all four of
the favorites.

926
00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:42,720
Now we're moving into the bottom
left quadrant here where we've

927
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:46,400
got our number four overall
seed, Quentin Tarantino's Pulp

928
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:51,840
Fiction up against the number 29
seed, Sinners, a movie that I

929
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,880
will note Brad liked more than I
did.

930
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,200
And so, you know, Sinners is a
fun little movie.

931
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,440
I think it definitely has
artistic merit.

932
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:04,640
I am still a little surprised at
how much critical and awards

933
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,160
consensus rallied around this
movie, which is, you know,

934
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,960
again, a very well made movie.
I don't think that it even

935
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:16,360
remotely touches Pulp Fiction.
Now, I will say, Brad, if you

936
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,680
want to give us 30 seconds on
spoiling your bracket a little

937
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,160
bit, or at least your vibes
list.

938
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,840
I'm pretty sure Pulp Fiction was
like your number one movie of

939
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,440
the season on the vibes list,
which I was a little surprised

940
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,120
by.
At I would say for me it's

941
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,400
probably between our 2 heavy
hitters on this side of the

942
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,320
bracket between Vertigo and Pulp
Fiction.

943
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,480
For me, the those are the two
that looking back on our

944
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,960
experience in season 1 and then
like translating that to like

945
00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:49,840
our experience now in season 10,
I think those are the 2 movies

946
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:55,640
that stand out to me as seven
years ago I was in love with

947
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,720
these movies.
Now I still find them to be

948
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:02,760
absolute masterpieces.
It feels to me like those are

949
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:09,440
the 2 ones that really really
just transcend any amount of

950
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,920
where I'm at in life when I
watch this movie.

951
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,080
Yeah, man.
And I think that over the years,

952
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:21,880
I cannot recognize the insane
cultural phenomenon and

953
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,600
influence that this movie was on
movies for 10-15 years

954
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,160
afterwards.
I also think Quentin Tarantino

955
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,120
has made better movies since
then.

956
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,880
And there are moments in Pulp
Fiction that I don't know if

957
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,080
he's ever topped.
Like, it might have the highest

958
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,160
highs of any movie of his.
Yeah.

959
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,920
But I don't know if, like,
beginning to end, I would say it

960
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,880
is his best movie all the way
through.

961
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,120
Sure.
And so I'm.

962
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,080
I mean, I'm this is a pretty
easy one for me to move Pulp

963
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,720
Fiction on here over sinners.
But like the Tree of Life, I

964
00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:55,080
think depending on the matchups
it faces in the bracket, this

965
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,600
could be the victim of an upset
here in the next couple rounds.

966
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,280
Brad.
Wow, that's that'll be you

967
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,800
causing an upset, Bob.
That won't be me.

968
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,720
Yeah, I think we've established
that at this point.

969
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,600
All right, that takes us to our
next matchup.

970
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,560
Brad, do you have the bracket
pulled up or should I continue

971
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,360
introing all of these?
So Next up we're talking an

972
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:26,120
absolute bombastic, ridiculous,
incredible film 198384. 84.

973
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:31,680
841984's Amadeus the Best
Picture winner up against the

974
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:40,040
Best Picture winner from the
535352. 5450 years old, so yeah.

975
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,360
That's what a fortuitous match
up, Bob.

976
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:47,480
We're talking 1954's On the
Waterfront, Bob.

977
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,720
Which one of these could have
been a contender?

978
00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:53,080
Oh, man, now you know not to
critique your intro skills here,

979
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,880
Brad, but you know this is your
first time doing it.

980
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,120
Yeah, totally.
Step in and say the 13 seed

981
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,080
Amadeus up against the number 20
seed on the waterfront.

982
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,960
So Amadeus did end up a little
higher.

983
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,360
And I'm in very different places
on these movies than I think I

984
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,120
was prior to watching them from
for this season.

985
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,000
Amadeus, I think is a movie that
lives in your memory as a

986
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,480
perfect movie.
It's been.

987
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,560
And you watch it and it's like
there's a few moments that are

988
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,200
slow.
Like it's a really good eight

989
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:26,440
and a half nine movie that has
moments of 10 and the moments of

990
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,800
10 are what you remember it.
It has those moments like a like

991
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,480
a piccolo, like a playful little
piccolo.

992
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,960
And then On the Waterfront is a
movie that we were super cool on

993
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:40,800
in season #1 coupled with like,
it's always had the reputation

994
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,120
of the Elia Kazan.
I named names.

995
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,120
I'm a traitor, I'm a rat.
And now I'm making a movie about

996
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,880
how being a rat is OK.
And there's a certain segment of

997
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,440
like, very liberal film Twitter
that will just never get on

998
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,400
board with that movie, no matter
how good it is.

999
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,760
But we watched it this time and
I was like, dude, I this is a

1000
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,160
near perfect movie.
Yep.

1001
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,000
So I really struggled with this
one.

1002
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,640
Brad, I'd like to hear where you
came out on this one because

1003
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,360
I'll be honest with you, I'm
looking at my bracket right now

1004
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:14,040
and there are two matchups in
the whole bracket that I just

1005
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,400
left blank.
Wow.

1006
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,720
Because I don't know what to do.
I think this is not a.

1007
00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:21,400
Part of that one because it's
facing, it's facing Pulp Fiction

1008
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,720
in the next round.
And I kind of think that

1009
00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:25,440
whatever comes out of this might
fall victim to Pulp Fiction

1010
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,320
totally.
But like this is a hard 1 for

1011
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:29,600
me.
It really is.

1012
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:36,240
I think that you are looking at
the the prestige level of On the

1013
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:39,680
Waterfront.
To me, it lives in that Citizen

1014
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:46,480
Kane world of like really old
black and white film that film

1015
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,440
critics talk about but the
average person hasn't seen at

1016
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:55,360
this point in history.
And Amadeus is in the this came

1017
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,800
out of the 80s and who knows
what was going on back then.

1018
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,200
It's wild and fun and about an
hour too long.

1019
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,160
And they were just doing a lot
of drugs at the time.

1020
00:56:05,240 --> 00:56:07,360
So that's what you get with
Amadeus.

1021
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:15,320
I if I had to pick one just
based on vibes and on what I

1022
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,160
would want to watch again
someday.

1023
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:22,960
I think Amadeus barely nudges
out on the waterfront.

1024
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,240
I would agree with you.
This is one of the hardest

1025
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,560
decisions of the the first
round.

1026
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,120
I think we need to leave it to
fate then.

1027
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,520
I honestly think that at this
moment, I would probably nudge

1028
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,440
On the Waterfront over it a
little bit.

1029
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,400
You know, especially you get the
I should have been a contender.

1030
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,720
And then the scene where he
finds his brother in the

1031
00:56:41,720 --> 00:56:44,240
alleyway is just, it's so
crushing.

1032
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,760
The moments that work in that
movie I think work even better

1033
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,400
than any moments in On the
Waterfront.

1034
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,000
So, right, I think we're going
to do a coin flip.

1035
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,440
That means that it's going to be
the 13 seed Amadeus will be

1036
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,120
Heads and the 20 seed on the
Waterfront tails.

1037
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:12,960
Brad, flip that coin.
Man, I we need to see if this

1038
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,240
thing's weighted because we are
looking at another heads.

1039
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:21,720
Wow.
All right, so Amadeus squeaks by

1040
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,320
in the round of 32 we have to
say goodbye to On the

1041
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:29,040
Waterfront, and that takes us to
another pretty fun match up

1042
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,640
here, Brad.
It's the number 12 overall seed,

1043
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:36,200
the Treasure of the Sierra
Madre, up against the 21 seed,

1044
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,200
$1,000,000 baby.
I think this kind of also falls

1045
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,240
in that same realm for me where
Treasure of the Sierra Madre was

1046
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:47,360
like one of my favorite movies
when I first started watching

1047
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,880
classic old Hollywood movies.
And now I've come to the point

1048
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,160
where I'm like, this is probably
a nine and a half.

1049
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,080
It's no longer A10 for me.
I still love it.

1050
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,800
Whereas $1,000,000 Baby is a
movie that I kind of had dipped

1051
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,360
on.
And then on this watch through I

1052
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:07,800
was like, it's a flawed movie,
but damn, it's it's pretty good.

1053
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,040
It's close to a nine for me.
So I'd love to hear where you

1054
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,200
fell on this one.
I think that $1,000,000 Baby is

1055
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,680
a great movie.
I think it falls prey to what

1056
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:22,520
we've often talked about with
with Clint that like he just has

1057
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:27,400
no nuance and he has like a
little bit here in $1,000,000

1058
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:33,960
Baby in the relationship between
the two main characters, but

1059
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,720
man, oh man, he struggles with
any sense of nuance.

1060
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:43,320
It also, this movie reminds me
so much of Gran Torino that I

1061
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,800
sometimes like get portions
where I'm like, wait a second,

1062
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,240
what about the scene where Clint
like brings the chairs up from

1063
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:54,160
the basement and I'm like, oh,
wait, no, that was Gran Torino.

1064
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,000
And, and they kind of get mixed
up, right?

1065
00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:00,600
Which means for me, I, I feel
like we should, I don't know,

1066
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:01,560
man.
I feel like we should put

1067
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,200
$1,000,000 baby out of its
misery.

1068
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,960
We should pull the plug.
I think so, yeah.

1069
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:11,400
Take a take a pillow too.
Well, Maggie Fitzgerald, where

1070
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,320
we are, we're going to we're
going to, what's the word,

1071
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,640
ethically euthanize you here and
we're.

1072
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,200
Going to ship her, ship her up
to Canada.

1073
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,480
It's going to be the, what is it
called, the MAID program.

1074
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,960
It's going to be great.
Fly there, drive back as she

1075
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,920
said.
All right, Treasure of the

1076
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,640
Sierra Madre is moving on into
the round of 32, and that takes

1077
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,400
us to our last match up here on
the left side of the bracket,

1078
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:41,240
the number 5 seed Rear Window up
against the 28 seed Fight Club.

1079
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,280
I'm a Fight Club hater.
I don't know what to tell you

1080
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:45,400
guys.
I just don't think it's a good

1081
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:50,080
movie, and I think that it is.
I don't think it's as dangerous

1082
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,600
as I tried to make it out to be.
Yeah, I think it's

1083
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:56,480
misinterpreted and I think that
it does exactly what it sets out

1084
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,400
to do.
I just don't think that it is

1085
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:03,920
like a very successful movie.
And so I'm in a very different

1086
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,320
place than you are on it.
Brad, I don't quite remember

1087
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,920
where this landed on your vibes
list, but you like Fight Club

1088
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,680
quite a bit more than me.
But I also don't think you're

1089
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,560
like, going to bat for Fight
Club as one of the best movies

1090
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,400
of this season.
No, I'm not.

1091
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:22,200
It actually fell down my vibes
list a little ways it.

1092
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,840
I think it came in at like 20 or
21.

1093
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,000
At the end of the day, Fight
Club's a great movie.

1094
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,000
I know that you're just jealous
that you don't look like Brad

1095
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:35,200
Pitt, that that's the real,
that's the real reason that

1096
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:39,200
you're upset about Fight Club.
I think Fight Club, when you

1097
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,000
really dive into it, has a very
fascinating message about

1098
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,200
society.
I think it gets misinterpreted a

1099
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,520
lot of times.
I think at the end of the day,

1100
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:53,240
though, Rear Window is an
absolute all time classic where

1101
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,640
you have Hitchcock basically
challenging himself to be like,

1102
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,960
all right, instead of like doing
all the these wild chase scenes

1103
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,760
or, you know, like a North by
Northwest.

1104
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,400
We're travelling all over the
country.

1105
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,800
He's like, let's see what I can
do if I keep the camera in the

1106
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,920
same room for an entire movie.
Yep.

1107
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,080
And it it's, it's just a great,
great film.

1108
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:15,920
You know, he did that with rope
as well.

1109
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:20,000
But even rope has more movements
around the room then you get in

1110
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,280
rear windows.
So I just rear windows.

1111
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:26,480
Such a freaking classic dude.
Yeah, the suspense in that

1112
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,840
movie, I don't know if there's a
Hitchcock movie that is more

1113
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,480
suspenseful than when Grace
Kelly tries to sneak into the

1114
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,200
guy's house or apartment.
And at the end of the movie,

1115
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,520
when Raymond Burr comes to find
Jimmy Stewart.

1116
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,520
Yeah.
It's just it's a perfect movie.

1117
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,840
Yep.
And I honestly, even putting it

1118
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:47,080
at #5 on our seating list here
felt like a crime in a way.

1119
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,760
So, I mean, Rear Window moves on
easily for me here.

1120
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,840
Yeah.
Dude, just to comment on the

1121
01:01:52,880 --> 01:02:00,080
whole season, I think my top 18
now probably my top 20 movies

1122
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:05,400
that like anything from 10 to 20
could have been the 10th overall

1123
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,200
movie for me.
Does that make sense?

1124
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:11,440
Like my top, my top five felt
certain.

1125
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,720
My top 6 through 9 felt like any
of them could be in that range.

1126
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:19,160
10 through 20 was just every
single one of them was an

1127
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,560
absolute hit and I had a really
hard time with a lot of great

1128
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,680
films in the season.
What's really funny about it

1129
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,080
too, is like your kind of middle
tier on the vibes list is not

1130
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,520
the same as mine.
And so it ended up making some

1131
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:35,480
matchups in the bracket that are
like easier than if I had to

1132
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,920
pick between that number on my
vibes list.

1133
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:43,320
And you know what I'm saying?
Like my 5 and and 13 or whatever

1134
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,480
are very different than what
yours would be.

1135
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,880
And so again, that it makes the
bracket this agent of chaos that

1136
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,760
we're not expecting, and it puts
us out with four more entries

1137
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,920
into the round of 16 Here, Brad,
we're talking about Pulp

1138
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:01,200
Fiction, Amadeus, Treasure of
the Sierra Madre and Rear

1139
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,120
Window.
Once again, we have not had one

1140
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:09,000
lower seated movie advance into
the round of 16 yet, but that

1141
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:10,680
might change.
Brad, I think we should take a

1142
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,440
quick break here and then we'll
get into the second-half of the

1143
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:14,320
bracket.
What do you say?

1144
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:21,040
Let's get to it.
All right, we are back the round

1145
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,520
of 32 in the season 10 bracket
challenge and we're moving over

1146
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:28,480
to the right side of our bracket
where we've got the number two

1147
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:33,040
overall seed, 12 Angry Men, one
of the great Oscar snubs of all

1148
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:36,760
time, not getting nominated for
Best picture, up against the

1149
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:41,200
number 31 overall seed, an
American in Paris.

1150
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,000
Now an American in Paris is one
of the more controversial Oscar

1151
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,720
winners of all time.
That movie won the 1951 Best

1152
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,920
Picture Academy Award.
I think it's a little bit of an

1153
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:56,240
unfair victim here because this
season also includes singing in

1154
01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:00,320
the rain.
Brad and I look at it at #31 and

1155
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,040
I'm like, that seems a little.
It's a good movie.

1156
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,760
I, I, I don't know if I would
call it like an all time great

1157
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,040
movie.
I do think it deserves its place

1158
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:12,040
in cinema history.
The scene of Gene Kelly dancing

1159
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,440
with the kids is just like,
that's magic, dude.

1160
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,720
Absolutely.
Now, I think you're lower on it

1161
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,840
than I am.
So I guess the question we're

1162
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:21,200
all asking is, what the hell,
Brad?

1163
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,280
Why did this movie come out so
low on our list here?

1164
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:28,560
It's a great movie, but like you
said, when you have a list of 32

1165
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:33,480
films and you have two musicals
with the same actor in the same

1166
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:39,240
era that look very similar.
For me it just kind of felt on

1167
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,120
the rankings based on that.
I also think.

1168
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:47,920
Is 12 Angry Men the most
efficient movie of all time?

1169
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:50,680
So here's the thing about 12
Angry Men.

1170
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:55,400
It it's weird for me seeing it
at #2 and I think part of it is

1171
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,520
because when we reveal our
number three seed, you'll

1172
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,720
understand why I feel that way
because I like the number three

1173
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,840
seed more than that.
No, it is a perfect movie

1174
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:07,440
mechanically.
It is a movie that moves and

1175
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,560
stirs the emotions.
So it's not just a movie I

1176
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,200
respect.
It is also a movie that like,

1177
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,800
you look at the machinery and
you're like, I respect that too.

1178
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:20,000
And I think that I'm struggling
with the fact that, like, I gave

1179
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:24,320
it a 10 and I love it, but I
would put it maybe one step

1180
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:28,280
behind the number three seed
that I'm like, man, is this the

1181
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,160
second best movie we watched
this season?

1182
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,520
Now where did you have it on
your vibes list, Brad?

1183
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:38,680
My vibes list I had 12 angry men
in the four slots.

1184
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:45,600
So OK, up there it is very, very
close, but not, you know, not #1

1185
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:50,320
number, not number 2, not even
number 31 might say but.

1186
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:54,480
I think high enough that we
could move it on here because I

1187
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,760
don't really think an American
in Paris has much of an argument

1188
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,720
to make against 12 angry men.
No, it really doesn't.

1189
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:05,320
Now our next match up, I think
it's going to be fascinating.

1190
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:10,800
We have the number 15 seed Catch
Me If You Can versus the number

1191
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:16,360
18 seed Cinderella Man, the
Bulldog of Boygan.

1192
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:21,320
Bulldog of Boygan James J
Braddock.

1193
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:25,760
We are, and I mean this in the
best possible way, the only two

1194
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,320
people on earth that love
Cinderella Man as much as we do

1195
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,920
100% Then you go on IMDb and it
has like an 8.1 or something.

1196
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:35,400
Like people like this movie,
it's just been forgotten about.

1197
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,480
Completely and we are here to
fix.

1198
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,560
That If You can, I think over
the last 20 years, Catch Me If

1199
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:45,680
You Can has taken on this kind
of like this Is Spielberg truly

1200
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,080
at the height of his directorial
powers and making a light,

1201
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,320
frothy comedy.
And we didn't know how good we

1202
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,640
had it.
And I think watching Catch Me If

1203
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:58,080
You Can, like as you watch it,
it's like an 8 1/2 out of 10

1204
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,520
movie.
And then you start realizing,

1205
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,680
like, oh, Spielberg is really at
work behind the scenes here.

1206
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,640
And then it kind of takes on
this additional layer of like,

1207
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,200
oh, maybe this is like a nine
and a half.

1208
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,240
It's kind of like watching Billy
Wilder do something like it hot

1209
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,000
where you're like, you get
caught up in the movie of it and

1210
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,240
then you don't realize that
there's actually a master behind

1211
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,120
the camera.
And I don't say that to

1212
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,720
disparage Ron Howard, but like,
you know, he's just not Steven

1213
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,920
Spielberg.
And yet, at the end of the day,

1214
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,240
there's a part of me that wants
to move Cinderella Man on past

1215
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,200
Catch Me If You Can't.
I cry like a baby at Cinderella

1216
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:35,280
Man.
I'm not going to lie.

1217
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,760
Absolutely.
And there there's something

1218
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:44,320
about the messaging of a father
looking to do anything he can to

1219
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:48,400
care for his children that, you
know, may or may not be calling

1220
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,440
to us.
And I, I also think like the

1221
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:55,680
messaging of Catch Me If You can
is beautiful and like this

1222
01:07:55,680 --> 01:08:02,960
abandoned boy, not of children,
not children of men.

1223
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,840
There will be blood.
Not, not not a.

1224
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:13,520
But boy, if abandoned my child.
But like this, this orphaned

1225
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,240
child essentially who runs off
into the world trying to make

1226
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,560
his way, finding family.
Like, where is he going to find

1227
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,560
family?
There's something about I'm

1228
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,880
going to find my family in the
government that doesn't appeal

1229
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:29,880
to me as much as I'm going to
give money back to the

1230
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:33,080
government that it gave me
because I don't want to feel

1231
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,880
like I, you know, owe it like I
took money.

1232
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,720
It really does appeal to both
the capitalist and the right

1233
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:40,760
winger in you Brad A. 100%
pretty hardcore.

1234
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,359
I'll love, I'll love me some
Cinderella, Man.

1235
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,640
It's a heck of a.
Movie OK I know you know what I

1236
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:49,840
think we're in agreement here in
what is perhaps the biggest

1237
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:53,359
upset I mean the only upset by
number yet we're going to move

1238
01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:56,720
Cinderella man on over catch me
if you can here.

1239
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,399
Let's go.
And I'm OK with it.

1240
01:08:58,479 --> 01:08:59,560
Yeah, I'm.
Close.

1241
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,479
I am too.
But I'm OK with it.

1242
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,800
Yeah, and I think this is
another example of, I think in

1243
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:08,240
general, people would have Catch
Me if You Can ranked higher.

1244
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,319
Like it would be like the 8th to
10th for a lot of people.

1245
01:09:11,319 --> 01:09:13,680
For us, we're just a little bit
cooler on it, especially this

1246
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,479
time around.
I didn't find it quite as

1247
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:18,720
triumphant as I have in the
past.

1248
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:22,600
So Cinderella man.
We'll say I hate to see one of

1249
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,880
Leo's very best performances get
thrown into the fiery chasm.

1250
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,880
It's so good.
He he really does work wonders

1251
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:30,520
in that movie.
I think you could hold that up

1252
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,800
as a contender for his best
performance.

1253
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,760
Yeah, so sorry, dude, You're not
the Bulldog of Bergen we're

1254
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:37,439
about to tell you.
We're also losing.

1255
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,240
Chasm there, but.
We're also losing one of the

1256
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:40,680
best knock knock jokes of all
time.

1257
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,479
Knock, knock.
All right, man.

1258
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:50,399
Next match up is the number 10
overall seed, The Great Escape

1259
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,920
up against the number 23 seed,
Anchorman.

1260
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:58,240
I hate, I hate this match.
I hate it 'cause they're 2

1261
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:01,040
movies that I love.
They are like great dad movies.

1262
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,600
I remember you texting me when
you were putting your list

1263
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:08,280
together and you said The Great
Escape feels like the best

1264
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,400
baseline movie.
Like it.

1265
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:14,920
It's the perfect #16 seed.
And I'm curious about that

1266
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:18,880
because The Great Escape is one
of those movies that just works

1267
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:23,000
for me and I couldn't even
fathom having it halfway down my

1268
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,640
list, Brad.
So I'm, I'm curious about like,

1269
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,360
does it just not work for you as
well as it does for me?

1270
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:32,480
Or is it just like, I really do
hold that up as the baseline for

1271
01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:34,760
like a great movie?
And that's where I'm going to

1272
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,880
start my ranking.
I think I was, I would say

1273
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:41,720
specifically for this season,
like I got almost halfway

1274
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,240
through my list.
I think I was on like the 14th

1275
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:46,880
and I was looking at it.
I was like, I feel like Great

1276
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:50,920
Escape could be 1415, but the
more I thought about it, the

1277
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:56,880
more I was like, I feel like The
Great Escape is the perfect

1278
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,920
middling point for this group of
32 movies.

1279
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:04,480
Like I can think of 15 movies
that are better than it.

1280
01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:08,400
I could probably even put 17 or
18 above it.

1281
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,240
But it for me, it felt like it
set the standard of like, if

1282
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,480
you're going to be in the top of
this bracket, you got to get

1283
01:11:14,480 --> 01:11:17,280
past The Great Escape because
it's such a great film.

1284
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,600
We just have a we just have a
lot of good movies this season.

1285
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,520
Now, Anchorman is one of those
movies that's like, I don't know

1286
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,720
how to explain it, man.
It's kind of like hindered by

1287
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:30,880
its own ceiling.
Like it is, it is so funny and

1288
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,480
it is also like a kind of
purposely shitty movie.

1289
01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:37,480
Do you know what I mean?
Like it is it is the the

1290
01:11:37,480 --> 01:11:40,120
platonic ideal of a type of dumb
comedy.

1291
01:11:40,480 --> 01:11:42,600
And I, I never want to be the
guy.

1292
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,360
That's like comedies are less
than because I don't think

1293
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,840
that's the case.
I also just think The Great

1294
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:51,080
Escape is a better movie than
Anchorman and I I don't really

1295
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,880
know how much more of a defense
I need to give for The Great

1296
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,440
Escape on that front.
Yeah, it's weird.

1297
01:11:56,440 --> 01:12:00,080
I so I ranked Anchorman in my
top 10 on my vibes list.

1298
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:06,240
Like I, I really think that
Anchorman is a top two or three

1299
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,120
comedy of all time.
Like it just checks all the

1300
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:12,200
boxes for me.
It's like I remember watching it

1301
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,680
as an eighth grader and a
sleepover with some friends.

1302
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:20,080
Like it is such it has a left an
indelible mark on my soul.

1303
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:21,680
Maybe that explains a lot about
me.

1304
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:26,280
Bob I, I think I'm still going
to move the Great escape on,

1305
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,720
even though my vibe was greater
on Anchorman.

1306
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:33,160
I think that the great escape is
the bigger cultural impact.

1307
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,360
I think it's the better movie
overall.

1308
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:39,160
And you you just get such an
interesting picture of World War

1309
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,400
2 from it that I I will move the
great escape on.

1310
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,520
All right.
We're we are in agreement there.

1311
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,960
So the Great escape is moving on
and I think we're coming up to

1312
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,360
another match up that doesn't
require a lot of conversation

1313
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,520
here.
So we're looking at because

1314
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:57,120
obviously the overall seed.
It's going to just drive on into

1315
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:58,920
the future.
The number seven seed

1316
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:03,480
Inglourious Basterds up against
the 26 seed Green Book.

1317
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,960
I never imagined myself being
the type of guy to go to bat for

1318
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:11,600
Green Book as much as I have.
Yeah, I just think the Green

1319
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:15,680
Book is way unfairly maligned
and especially like if you go on

1320
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:19,960
IMDb, I'm pretty sure it has
like a 8.1 or like it's a very

1321
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,800
well liked movie by the general
population.

1322
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:26,040
Now, they also gave Fight Club
like an 8.8 or something.

1323
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,880
So, you know, take that with a
grain of salt, but you know,

1324
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:30,160
we're leading.
We've been leading up to the

1325
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:33,600
Oscars the last few weeks.
And I've seen so many lists of

1326
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,640
people that are like the worst
best picture winners of all

1327
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,720
time.
And they'll have Green Book in

1328
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,320
there.
And I'm like, OK, maybe if your

1329
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:45,560
argument is like, it's the worst
win in that it didn't deserve to

1330
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:49,040
win best picture, that's fine.
Because what was the other

1331
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:50,840
option that year?
There were a couple.

1332
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:54,000
Alfonso Cuaron's movie Roma was
kind of like the runaway

1333
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,520
favorite to win.
I just think that like there are

1334
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:01,400
a lot worse movies that have
actually won Best Picture than

1335
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:03,560
than Green Book.
And like Crash.

1336
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,720
Do I think that the racial
politics of Green Book are kind

1337
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,120
of Pollyannish?
Sure.

1338
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,960
I also think it's like a really
well made movie.

1339
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:13,360
I think it's gorgeous to look
at.

1340
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,240
The performances are good.
It's a really good time at the

1341
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:17,760
movies.
I don't I don't know what to

1342
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,360
say, man.
It is going into the fiery abyss

1343
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,400
here.
Yeah, obviously Inglorious

1344
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,760
Basterds, which I.
Dude, this season around, I'm

1345
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:29,880
like holding Inglorious and Pulp
Fiction side by side and I'm

1346
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:33,040
like, man, I, I don't know which
one's better for me at this

1347
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,240
point.
It's a that's a tough decision.

1348
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,280
It's an easy decision when I
have Green Book next to it,

1349
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:43,120
which does make me a little sad.
I at the end of the day, Bob

1350
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:47,680
Green Book is a really fun movie
and I like I can't describe it

1351
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,560
any other way.
It is an ultimate popcorn

1352
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:56,040
munching like crowd pleasing
type of movie that goes into the

1353
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:59,120
fiery inferno with all of my
well regards.

1354
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:01,920
Yep.
And that's that's kind of where

1355
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,560
I'm leaving it as well.
So that that means we have our

1356
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:08,880
next 4 entries into the round of
16, which actually features an

1357
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,800
upset this time Brad.
So we've got 12 Angry Men,

1358
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:16,720
Cinderella Man, a true
Cinderella story here, The Great

1359
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:20,680
Escape and Inglorious Basterds
talk about a bunch of guy movies

1360
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,040
getting into our our Sweet 16
here.

1361
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,320
And I think we're going to
continue that trend in the

1362
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,160
bottom half of the bracket here.
Brad.

1363
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,880
I'm really excited about this
match up 'cause I know how easy

1364
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,680
it will be for us.
It's the number three overall

1365
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:37,520
seed Casablanca, up against the
number 30 seed, The

1366
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:41,560
Assassination of Jesse James by
the Coward Robert Ford.

1367
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:43,440
That's right.
Now, Bob, I have to say I've

1368
01:15:43,440 --> 01:15:46,840
watched The Assassination of the
Jesse of Jesse James by the

1369
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:51,760
Coward Robert Ford at least nine
times since we recorded and I've

1370
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,240
changed my tune.
I think it's the greatest movie

1371
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,400
ever made.
It's better than Casablanca.

1372
01:15:56,480 --> 01:15:58,200
That's right, dude.
I can't.

1373
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:03,080
I went back into the rewatch for
that thinking, man, I hated this

1374
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,160
movie, but at least I get the
train scene.

1375
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,720
Like the train scene was
incredible.

1376
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:12,040
And then I saw it and was like,
that was not that great.

1377
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,640
I did not remember that
accurately.

1378
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,640
It's not as much fun as I
thought it was.

1379
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,200
And then the rest of the movie
happened so.

1380
01:16:20,480 --> 01:16:22,920
Funny thing is, you were a
little higher on the rest of the

1381
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:24,400
movie than you were the first
time around.

1382
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,880
I was like, not much, yeah, but
slightly more it.

1383
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:32,320
Kind of evened out, you know?
Listen, Casablanca, if nothing

1384
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,560
else, is one of the most perfect
scripts ever written.

1385
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:40,400
And I think just based on that,
it's moving on into the round of

1386
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,720
16.
I need we say more, Brad.

1387
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,880
I weird, you know how like you
see, you think about buying like

1388
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,160
a Subaru and then you see
Subarus everywhere.

1389
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:54,240
I feel like after this time we
watched it, I saw the joke about

1390
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:57,520
I I'm shocked, shocked to find
gambling in this establishment.

1391
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:01,320
I've seen that joke everywhere
since we watched it again.

1392
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:04,160
So I, yeah, I don't know what's
going on, but.

1393
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,560
It's like a Rosetta Stone for
understanding references.

1394
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,400
Like he's just, if you haven't
seen it, you're like, I can tell

1395
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,040
that this Looney Tunes cartoon
is referencing something, but I

1396
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,160
don't know what.
And then you see it and you're

1397
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,880
like, Oh my gosh, I I understand
everything now.

1398
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,760
Yeah, Casablanca.
Very easy to move on.

1399
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:25,560
This might be one of the easiest
choices I've ever made in 10

1400
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,560
seasons worth of brackets.
I mean, in fairness, I think

1401
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,600
anything versus Assassination of
Jesse James was going to be

1402
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:32,920
moving on for you.
Yeah.

1403
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,800
I mean, I will say Bob
Casablanca, Great movie.

1404
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,640
Now we have 2 great movies in
our next matchup.

1405
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,040
Brad, why don't you intro this
one?

1406
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:48,480
Because this is a tough one.
Kenya #14 is Lion King Shahana.

1407
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:53,760
The Lion King.
Versus the number 19 seed 500

1408
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,360
days of summer.
Is that the intro you were

1409
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,600
looking for?
I love it, dude.

1410
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:00,640
No.
All right, so here's the thing,

1411
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,680
man.
I think on paper, The Lion King

1412
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:07,040
seems like the easy champion
here because every time I watch

1413
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:11,080
500 Days of Summer before I
watch it, I'm like, man, I can't

1414
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:12,720
believe that I love this movie
that much.

1415
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:14,640
Like this seems like the kind of
movie that's not going to hold

1416
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:16,400
up.
And then I make it like halfway

1417
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,760
through and I'm like, I don't
know if this is going to hold

1418
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:20,120
up.
And then they land the plane

1419
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:22,840
every single time.
It's just, I've watched it

1420
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:26,360
enough times that I have to just
stamp it and say it's a great

1421
01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:29,600
movie. 500 Days of Summer is a
great movie.

1422
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:31,720
Absolutely.
The Lion King, on the other

1423
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:36,200
hand, is a movie that I have
always been like 9 1/2 to 10.

1424
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,960
There's like maybe 1 moment that
I don't love.

1425
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:42,600
I don't, I don't love Timon and
Pumba that they take away from

1426
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,080
the overall structure of the
movie.

1427
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,600
You've always been like a step
cooler on it than I have.

1428
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,000
And I think it's just because
it's not Beauty and the Beast,

1429
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,960
which I know is like your
favorite, the classic Disney

1430
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,720
movies.
But I'm curious here, Brad,

1431
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,720
because I think you also gave
The Lion King A9 or a nine and a

1432
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:01,120
half.
So where are you falling on this

1433
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:02,440
one because it's a tough match
up.

1434
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,520
It is a tough match up.
I think Lion King is like

1435
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:09,360
classic Disney cinema.
I think it probably is the

1436
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:13,800
general consensus of 90s Disney
movies as like the greatest.

1437
01:19:14,480 --> 01:19:18,240
Like I can't think of another
90s Disney film that's held in

1438
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:21,480
higher regard.
I think at the end of the day,

1439
01:19:21,480 --> 01:19:26,240
I'm just, it's a great movie.
It's a great animated film.

1440
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:29,960
It has a good message about like
taking responsibility for your

1441
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:34,760
life and the emotional moments
of the film are really

1442
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:39,160
impactful.
I think it gets way worse when

1443
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:43,840
you introduce Matthew Broderick
and like, as soon as you do the

1444
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,560
time jump, the movie dips in
quality.

1445
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,920
For me.
I I think that 500 Days of

1446
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:56,520
Summer is stunningly good.
I think that the music video

1447
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,960
scene is incredibly well
choreographed and it's bright

1448
01:19:59,960 --> 01:20:03,320
and and vivacious and there's
just full of life.

1449
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,920
It, it feels like a Ferris
Bueller knock off, but like in a

1450
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:11,200
really unique and in its own way
kind of scene.

1451
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:18,080
I think that the expectations
versus reality, that's one of

1452
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:20,560
the best scenes I've ever seen.
It's so good.

1453
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,000
From any movie ever.
Yet.

1454
01:20:22,440 --> 01:20:25,200
So here's where I'm at, though I
think I'm going to pick The Lion

1455
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:26,760
King because.
I think.

1456
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:30,560
Across the board, the Lion
King's like half a point better

1457
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:34,520
for me.
I think it has the highest high

1458
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:38,720
in The Lion King is slightly
higher than 500 days for me and

1459
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:41,720
I think the lowest low in 500
days is a little bit lower than

1460
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:45,240
than Lion King.
And so I think like, as much as

1461
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:47,680
I love them both, I don't know
that I can pick 500 days of

1462
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:49,960
summer.
So we might be doing a coin flip

1463
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,240
here, Brad.
Yeah, I, I picked 500 Days of

1464
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:55,480
Summer to move on.
I think it it, it's not like I

1465
01:20:55,480 --> 01:20:58,400
don't like Lion King.
I just think I like 500 Days of

1466
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:01,760
Summer a little bit more.
So I'm ready if you are, man.

1467
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:06,840
All right, The Lion King will be
heads. 500 Days of Summer will

1468
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,600
be tails.
Brad, flip that coin.

1469
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,040
Dude, I think this coin's
waited.

1470
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,920
We've got another heads.
We have to go We.

1471
01:21:27,440 --> 01:21:29,560
Have to go back and listen to
some old season because I don't

1472
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:32,240
feel like Heads has won all the
time.

1473
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:35,400
Every time, yeah.
No, no, something got messed up

1474
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:36,240
with that coin.
Yeah.

1475
01:21:36,440 --> 01:21:39,440
So I guess, you know, 500 days
of summer, Yes, it does get

1476
01:21:39,440 --> 01:21:42,680
thrown into the fiery abyss, but
it also doesn't have to go up

1477
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:44,240
against Casablanca in the next
round.

1478
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:45,560
So, you know, that'd be tough to
win.

1479
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,560
It's a moral victory.
All right, We've got two more

1480
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:51,680
match ups for the day, folks.
And we're talking next about the

1481
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:58,360
number 11 overall seed Singing
in the Rain up against the 22

1482
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:01,200
seed American Beauty.
I don't know where to start with

1483
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:02,880
this, Brad.
I guess I want to start with

1484
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:06,560
like, what the hell, my friend?
Because the only reason that

1485
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:12,160
singing in the rain is the 11
seed is solely because of you.

1486
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:13,720
I don't.
Know what you're talking about?

1487
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:20,600
What I mean, do you not
experience joy in your life?

1488
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:24,680
Mean, do you not when the camera
pushes in on Gene Kelly's face

1489
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:28,440
as he says, come on with the
rain, I have a smile on my face.

1490
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:32,640
Do you not feel anything in that
cold, dark heart of yours?

1491
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:35,200
I mean, you know, I give it an
8.5.

1492
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:40,600
I'm like 8.5 singing in the rain
I like.

1493
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,280
Singing in the rain.
It's a good movie.

1494
01:22:45,480 --> 01:22:48,160
Explain yourself.
Are you not a musical guy?

1495
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:50,840
Is that what we're discovering?
No, I like musicals.

1496
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:54,440
I The musicals, yeah.
But like, we've got, I mean, we

1497
01:22:54,440 --> 01:22:58,880
have three of the best musicals
ever this season and every time

1498
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:03,120
you've been like, not for me.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know man.

1499
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,600
I I am trying to remember
musicals.

1500
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:09,440
I remember watching growing up.
I watched 7 Brides for Seven

1501
01:23:09,440 --> 01:23:12,400
Brothers.
I remember watching Guys and

1502
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:16,160
Dolls.
Yeah, Guys and Dolls is a good

1503
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,200
one.
Lucky a lady tonight, Bob, a

1504
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:27,480
lucky 7, if you will.
I, I really love an American in

1505
01:23:27,480 --> 01:23:28,400
Paris.
I think.

1506
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,520
I think it might be what you
talked about with comedies.

1507
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:36,960
I think musicals have a cap,
have a ceiling for me that like,

1508
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,160
I love them, they're fun and
they're bright and I enjoy them.

1509
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:44,200
I love Across the Universe like
another example of a musical I

1510
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,720
saw when it came out.
Really enjoy it.

1511
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,280
Lala Land.
Lala land would be the one for

1512
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:53,920
me that like breaks through the
musical ceiling and become

1513
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:59,520
something more than that.
Overall, I I just think that

1514
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:03,240
these kind of have a ceiling and
I'm like I said, I really like

1515
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:06,880
this movie.
I think that Gene Kelly and

1516
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,760
who's his the sidekick, Donald
O'Connor.

1517
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:12,920
Donald O'Connor.
Incredible, great performance.

1518
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,920
Man, I think Singing in the Rain
is one of those movies that

1519
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:21,360
like, even when I was at my like
most film Bro E and was like

1520
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:23,800
this Singing in the Rain, you
watch it and you're like, OK,

1521
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,840
like I, I have no, I have no
qualms with this.

1522
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:31,120
It's just like it transcends
every limitation the musical

1523
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,560
genre could put on because it
moves so quickly.

1524
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,600
Like everything either builds to
a song or a punchline.

1525
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,680
Like the the plot flows
logically from scene to scene.

1526
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,840
It doesn't ever feel the only
thing in the movie that feels

1527
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:46,680
like and then is like the ballet
sequence.

1528
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:49,560
And that's just because Gene
Kelly was trying to top American

1529
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:51,360
in Paris.
And even then I can kind of

1530
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:53,920
forgive it because I think it's
a better ballet sequence than

1531
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:57,240
than American in Paris.
So like, I don't know, man.

1532
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,360
I do think that in this match up
against American Beauty, which

1533
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:04,160
we have not talked about at all,
this was a really easy one for

1534
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:05,920
me to move Singing in the Rain
on.

1535
01:25:06,440 --> 01:25:10,080
And I am incredibly nervous that
you're going to go to bat here

1536
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:13,760
for Kevin Spacey of all people
over Singing in the Rain.

1537
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,840
Don't.
Throw me under the bus because

1538
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:21,200
of a legend.
Noted Pervert defender Brad G

1539
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:26,400
continues to place Kevin Spacey
Films in the second round.

1540
01:25:26,480 --> 01:25:31,040
Listen man, American Beauty is
an example of Kevin Spacey just

1541
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:32,640
nailing it.
But he's great.

1542
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:34,880
It's still.
It still is one of the greatest

1543
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,200
twists I've ever experienced
watching a movie.

1544
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:41,960
I and I think the messaging
about the world that they lived

1545
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:47,400
in in the 90s was just really
well crafted and articulated.

1546
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,680
This was easy for me.
I moved American Beauty on.

1547
01:25:51,440 --> 01:25:55,120
You are an insane person, man.
You are an insane person.

1548
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:58,280
And I swear to God, if this is
the first time that the coin is

1549
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:00,320
not heads, I'm going to lose my
mind.

1550
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:04,400
Dude, this is insane.
What are we talking about here?

1551
01:26:04,480 --> 01:26:08,400
Like, I, you know me, I defended
American Beauty, like I defended

1552
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:11,120
Green Book, but I came out to
like an 8 1/2 on that.

1553
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:14,480
We're talking about one of maybe
the five most beloved films ever

1554
01:26:14,480 --> 01:26:17,840
made since people started making
movies in Singing in the Rain.

1555
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:20,800
And I.
I gave said give me more, Lester

1556
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,000
Burnham.
I listen man.

1557
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:27,280
I gave both movies an 8.5.
I think that they're both really

1558
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,960
well made.
I think American Beauty's a

1559
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:33,480
better movie.
I hate the coin of destiny and

1560
01:26:33,480 --> 01:26:36,040
I'm going to be real mad if
something does not go my way

1561
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:37,720
here.
So singing in the rain is going

1562
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,000
to be heads.
American Beauty is tails.

1563
01:26:40,480 --> 01:26:43,480
Brad, you have put us in another
impossible situation.

1564
01:26:44,480 --> 01:26:57,760
You've got that coin.
Yeah, we are talking about

1565
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,760
another heads.
Thank God.

1566
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,120
Listen, we will address the
weighted coin in another

1567
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:08,000
episode, but I I will put up
with it as long as it's flipping

1568
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:08,720
in my favor.
I'm.

1569
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:12,120
Going to I'm going to do some
testing once we're done with

1570
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:15,200
this episode and we, we might
need, we might need a new coin.

1571
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:18,360
Like I flipped it 1000 times at
990.

1572
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:20,800
All right, one more match up
here.

1573
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,360
This is an easy one for me,
Brad, but I think both movies

1574
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:25,080
deserve just a little bit of
conversation.

1575
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,280
It's the number six overall
seed.

1576
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:30,520
Some like it hot up against the
27 seed.

1577
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:35,680
Aaron Man, Some like it Hot is
one of those movies that it's

1578
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,640
like you respect it, you
remember loving it, you think

1579
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:42,280
it's fun and great and it exists
in that like fun, great

1580
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:45,360
category.
And then you watch it again and

1581
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,600
you're like, Oh no, this is
actually a perfect movie.

1582
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:52,080
Like I wouldn't change one jot
or title of this script.

1583
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,880
One drunken Marilyn Monroe
delivery.

1584
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,360
It's perfect.
It's perfect, dude.

1585
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:00,800
Yeah.
It I I think it's the greatest

1586
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,360
comedy of all time like.
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't argue

1587
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:07,640
with with that because the ones
that I like better like the

1588
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:11,040
apartment it it's so dramatic,
like it's it would tip into

1589
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:12,120
dramedy.
Yes.

1590
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,480
And if we're talking about a
movie that stays in that sort of

1591
01:28:14,480 --> 01:28:17,520
like classic Shakespeare,
everybody gets married at the

1592
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:18,920
end.
You know, that's what makes it a

1593
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:22,520
comedy.
Then like some Like it Hot is

1594
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:27,000
that movie dude?
Yeah, including what's his

1595
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,800
something E Brown, What's his
name?

1596
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,160
Joey Brown.
Yeah, including Joey Brown and

1597
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:35,440
Jack Levin get married at the
end of this.

1598
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:42,680
What an absolutely great film.
This this was a very nearly as

1599
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:46,240
easy as Casablanca over the
assassination of Jesse James by

1600
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:48,840
the Coward robber for all.
Right, so that is our last entry

1601
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,360
into the round of 16.
I'll go ahead and read all of

1602
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:54,560
the movies that are moving into
our second round here, which

1603
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:56,320
we'll be discussing in our next
episode.

1604
01:28:56,720 --> 01:29:00,560
So from the top we've got
Vertigo versus Star Wars.

1605
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:05,240
West Side Story will be going up
against The Tree of Life, Pulp

1606
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:09,720
Fiction versus Amadeus, The
Treasure of the Sierra Madre

1607
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:13,040
versus Rear Window.
And then on the other side of

1608
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:17,600
the bracket, 12 Angry Men versus
Cinderella Man, The Great Escape

1609
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:22,280
versus Inglourious Basterds,
Casablanca versus The Lion King

1610
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:26,160
and Singing in the Rain against
Some Like It Hot.

1611
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:29,360
Guess what, Brad?
We watched a ton of great movies

1612
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:30,240
this season.
What a.

1613
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,280
This is just.
What a freaking blast.

1614
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:34,120
This is this has been
incredible.

1615
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:37,520
I think that if you are ever
stuck for like, what should we

1616
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:40,440
watch tonight?
It's really easy to look at this

1617
01:29:40,440 --> 01:29:44,840
list and be like, just put it in
a randomizer and you're set man.

1618
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,200
You you will find a great movie
to watch.

1619
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:51,720
Guys, thank you so much for
tuning in to Part 1 of the

1620
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:53,640
Bracket Challenge.
Thanks for listening to our

1621
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:57,160
Oscars recap as well.
We will be back next week to

1622
01:29:57,160 --> 01:30:00,880
breakdown the round of 16 and
the round of eight in our

1623
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:03,920
Bracket Challenge, But we want
to know what you think so far,

1624
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:08,200
both of our picks, and what you
would pick to win your Season 10

1625
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:09,800
bracket.
Don't forget to download your

1626
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:13,320
bracket at filmwhiskey.com and
then you can let us know what

1627
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,800
you think on any of our social
media accounts, Facebook,

1628
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:21,720
Twitter, Instagram, Tiktok or
YouTube at Film Whiskey.

1629
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:24,480
Or if you want to join the
conversation, we will be talking

1630
01:30:24,480 --> 01:30:28,280
about this bracket on our
Discord server, so if you want

1631
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:31,160
to talk about it there, you can
find a link to our Discord at

1632
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:33,520
the end of every single one of
our show notes.

1633
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:36,560
We'll be back next week talking
about Bracket, but until then,

1634
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,200
I'm Bob Book.
I like that you call it bracket

1635
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:41,760
like it's a person.
Not the bracket, just bracket.

1636
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:45,680
We'll be talking about bracket.
If you ever have another kid,

1637
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:49,800
you need to name him Bracket
Bracket Book Bracket.

1638
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:52,360
I'm Brad.
I'm Brad G.

1639
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:53,800
And we'll see you next time.