My Favorite Movie with Graham McTavish, McTavish Spirits

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Hey everyone.
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today's episode, we will be
doing our very first interview

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with a real live actor.
Yeah, and not only any actor,

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Brad, but Graham Mctavish, A
beloved character actor who has

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a new line out called Mctavish
Spirits.

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We'll also be trying that right
now and telling you what we

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think of this seven-year bottled
and Bond bourbon this is.

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The Film and Whiskey podcast.
Hey everybody, Welcome into the

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Film and Whiskey Podcast.
I'm Bob Book.

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I'm Brad G.
And we're coming at you with a

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very special bonus episode,
bonus episode.

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Couple weeks ago we were
contacted by my friend Connor

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from over at the Bourbon with
Friends podcast and he says.

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We've been working on a secret
project.

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It's a celebrity whiskey, and I
can tell you more about it if

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you sign an NDA.
And I said, I'm sorry, what now?

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And then what?
Was this your first NDA?

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In the whiskey world, it was,
yeah.

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Oh, you signed them outside the
whiskey?

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World I I have, yeah.
But I can't disclose.

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No, That's what it's for, man.
Come on.

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But can you talk about like the
industry or like, like I want to

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hear something?
About it was just for work.

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Like it wasn't anything, you
know, exciting.

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Dang it, Bob.
I'm trying to get you sued.

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Work with me here.
I know, right?

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Well, maybe I should divulge
some more industry secrets about

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bourbon and we'll get ourselves
there, Brad.

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But anyway, all this to say,
signed an NDA, learned about

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this project that our friends
over there at Bourbon With

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Friends have been working on
with the actor Graham Mctavish.

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Now you may know Graham Mctavish
if you have watched the show

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Outlander.
Or if you have watched the show

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Preacher.
Or if you watched The Hobbit

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films.
This guy has been in so many

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things.
I called my dad the other day

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and I was like, hey, did you
watch Outlander?

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He was like, yeah.
And I told him about

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interviewing Graham Mctavish and
he's like this guy's big time,

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man.
What'd you guys do to get this?

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So first thing I have to say is
thank you so much to bourbon

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with friends for kind of setting
this all up for us.

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But what they did was they and
Graham.

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Basically launched this new
brand called Mctavish Spirits

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that Graham is very passionate
about and they've just come out

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with their first release under
the Mctavish Spirits line.

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It is a seven-year bottled and
bond bourbon that they

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handpicked.
We they sent us samples of it

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and they also set up an
interview with Graham and you

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will hear that interview at the
back half of this episode.

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But Brad, I have been rambling
for far too long, and I want to

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know what your thoughts are
before we dive into this

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whiskey.
I think it's kind of ridiculous

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that you didn't mention probably
one of his most famous shows,

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the wildly popular Netflix, The
Witcher, The.

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Witcher The man fought Henry
Cavill.

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OK, yes, that's that's I'm
saying the man who reloads his

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fists like they're guns.
Oh man, I really can't wait for

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you guys to hear this interview
with Graham.

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Brad was unable to join us for
that interview.

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So you will hear me ramble on
and on even longer in the back

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half of this episode.
So let's get as much Brad in

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here as we can while we've got
him.

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Brad, we've got this whiskey in
front of us.

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I know that you have not tried
it yet.

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I had a chance to sample it when
I was talking with Graham.

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I want to hear your initial
impressions as we're just

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getting into the nose here.
Yeah, I was going to say I have

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only smelt it thus far and this
is a really beautiful whiskey

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bomb.
Like, I feel like 6 to 9 years

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is such an incredible range for
bourbon because you have all of

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the depth and flavor that you
need from the barrel and you

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don't.
It's not overly out right?

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Like in general for for people
who are new to whiskey, a lot of

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the flavor, pretty much all of
the flavor of whiskey comes from

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the process of the the whiskey
interacting with the chemicals

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of the the wood itself.
And when you when you make

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bourbon, it has to be a new oak
barrels and because of that if

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you leave it in for too long, it
gets really oaky.

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And I think that what I'm
smelling here from from a boy,

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Graham Mctavish, smells like
it's the perfect age statement.

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Yeah, it's seven years old.
The mash bill is 75% corn, 21%

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rye, and 4% malted barley.
So there's no wheat in this.

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And I will say on the nose, I
don't know that you could trick

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me into thinking this was a
weeded bourbon, but it has the

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sort of gentleness on the nose
that I've come to associate with

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weeded bourbon, Matt.
I by that I don't mean that it

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is lacking in aroma at all.
But with weeded bourbon, Brad,

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you and I kind of get this
effervescence sometimes that

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reminds us of drinking like a
cocacola.

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We usually get cherry, so I
think a lot of times we talk

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about Cherry Coke when we're
nosing these.

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I don't know that I quite get
cherry, but I get the sort of

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gentle brightness that I
normally get on a weeded

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bourbon.
And this is high rye and the rye

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is not smacking you in the face
it it has a little bit of like.

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I don't know citrusy fruit
character to me, but it's not

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aggressive at all.
I'm so impressed with the kind

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of really nice delicate floral
notes that the oak is bringing

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out here.
I would never have pegged this

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as being a high rye bourbon.
Yeah, I I think it gets a little

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bit minty for me.
And that's like the little hint

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that it's rye.
But usually with something 20%

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or higher on rye, you're you're
getting some of those

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specifically rye notes here,
it's just gets a little bit

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minty.
I think that it has like a

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caramel drizzle nose that you
just got a hint of caramel.

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And yeah, it's it's floral, it's
bright, there's almost like a

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marmalade, jam type of smell to
it.

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I I'm a big fan, Bob, and I
can't wait to drink it.

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Well, let's get into it, man.
Let's take a sip.

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Oh yeah, dude, That is like
vanilla and butterscotch.

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And then it moves into a little
bit of a black pepper.

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The rye comes through just a
little bit at the end.

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I'd almost call it more of a
finish, but man, there is

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complexity here.
The oakiness holds off for long

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enough to get to allow you to
experience the complexity, and

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then it hits you right at the
end with those rye spices with a

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little bit of that, that
pepperiness.

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Bob, this is a delicious
whiskey.

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So you guys will hear this in my
interview with Graham here in a

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couple minutes.
But I kind of asked him to

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answer the obvious question,
which is why is a Scotsman

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picking bourbon?
Why are you not releasing a

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Scotch?
Right?

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And he talked about his
introduction to bourbon about 20

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years ago, and that the second
he took a sip, he realized he

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preferred bourbon to Scotch.
And it's because of the

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sweetness of bourbon.
And as soon as I heard him say

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that, I was like, You guys are
like best friends.

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I'm in good hands now and I
hadn't tried the product yet.

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It has that sort of not quite
syrupy sweetness, but vanilla is

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a good a good note on this Brad,
I know vanilla is an obvious one

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for bourbon, but there's a
creaminess to this that you

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don't normally get, especially
on high rye bourbons.

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Those ones tend to be not
necessarily harsh, but I think a

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word that I use a lot is
prickly.

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Like the rye definitely makes
itself known, and here it's

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almost like a vanilla custard or
something that I'm getting.

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And it's underscored by that
mintiness that you were talking

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about.
But it hangs out in that almost

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weeded bourbon like playing
field that I love so much.

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It is an incredibly easy sipper
at 100 Proof, and I think that

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what I'm most impressed about is
like how cohesive this whole

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thing is.
You know what I mean?

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Like there's not there's not a
ton of tasting notes that are

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popping out to me.
Throughout the experience

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because it just tastes like from
nose to taste to finish, it's

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all of a piece.
Yeah, no, 100%, man.

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This is like a decently complex,
beautiful, sweet experience with

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just enough spiciness to make
you go, man, I like, I want to

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experience more of this.
And if they're, you know, if

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they're picking barrels and
they're always this good, Bob,

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the Mctavish line is going to be
incredible for years to come.

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All right, Brad, you know what?
Let's put our money where our

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mouth is here.
Sometimes we get sent samples of

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stuff and we're like, yeah, it's
good.

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But especially on bonus
episodes, we don't usually put

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it through our rigorous scoring
technique.

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I think we should score this one
because I I like this enough

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that I'm not only going to
recommend it, but I want you to

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hear the score that I would give
this.

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I think I would give that.
Well, let me pull a boat

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calculator.
Yeah.

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While you're doing that, Bob, I
think that I would say the nose

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is beautiful, but doesn't fully
represent what you're about to

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get into.
I'd probably give it like a 7

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1/2 out of 10 on the nose.
Where where are you at?

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I'm going to give it an 8 on the
nose.

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I'm with you.
I think that of the three big

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things that we're going to score
here, nose, taste, finish, the

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nose is the one that it hints at
like, oh, this is going to be

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nice.
It's it's kind of playfully

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sweet.
There's not a ton going on

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complexity wise.
And I wasn't prepared for how

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decadent and delicious it was
going to be on the pallet.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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And that's.
And that's where, you know, I'll

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go to the pallet next.
I'll give it an 8 1/2 there,

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man.
Like, this is just a really,

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really nice, easy to drink
bourbon.

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That whether you're new to the
world of bourbon or you are an

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accomplished drinker like you
and I are, Bob, this has a lot

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to offer, man.
Yeah, I'm going to give it a

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nine on the taste.
I'm also going to give it a nine

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on the finish.
I and I will say upfront, this

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is right up my alley.
Like this whiskey could have

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been branded.
Graham Mctavish is Bob Book

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Whiskey and I I would have
signed off on it.

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I would have bought every bottle
and I would have been happy

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about it.
But from the taste to the

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finish, it is just exactly what
I want out of 100 proof whiskey.

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And that means that I'm
balanced, Brad.

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I think that I'm going to give
it.

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I'll give it an 8 1/2 on
balance.

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I kind of want to give it a nine
there too, but the nose is just

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a hair under the taste and
finish for me.

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So I'll give it an 8.5 there.
Yeah, I'll, I'll give it an 8

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out of 10 on balance.
And I I'm curious about value,

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Bob, how much is this going to
be sold for?

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So this is kind of a premium
bottle.

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It looks like it's selling on
the website for $75.00.

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Now I will say it is There's one
run of this.

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And then it's going to be, you
know, it's it's it's batched,

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right.
So it's not like you're going to

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have Mctavish Spirits this
particular release forever like

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they're going to sell out of it
and they're going to do the next

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release to my knowledge.
And I think $75 is right in that

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perfect price point where it's
not quite as expensive as

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something like Bardstown Bourbon
Company or Barrel, which we

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always endorse on here, but it's
a rare whiskey.

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That has a name attached to it
that, like if you have a fan of

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The Witcher or Outlander or The
Hobbit in your life, this is

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like, this screams Christmas
present, right?

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Yeah, 100%.
And you also have not said the

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name of this whiskey, Bob.
It's called the War Chief.

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You know what?
I just it's my nickname.

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And so I just glossed right past
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I just gotcha, gotcha.
It's like the War Chief book,

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like you're an 80s basketball
superstar.

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Like, I'm like one of the guys
in the original Predator.

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That doesn't make it to the end
like me and Jesse Ventura.

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Oh man.
All right, listen, so I am going

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to give it an 8 out of 10 on
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I think it is like.
If it didn't have Graham

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Mctavish attached to it, I would
still say this is like a $65

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bottle of whiskey.
The fact that it is in limited

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supply and you have the
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behind it, I think $75 is not at
all overpriced for this.

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Yeah, I I think that's a decent
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I'm with you.
I think this is about a $60.00

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bottle of whiskey, but I'll give
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Bob.
That is bringing me out to a 39

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out of 50.
Brad, I'm at a 42.5 out of 50.

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This is well above that 40 mark
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whiskey.
Great for me.

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Like, listen man, we get a lot
of stuff sent to us to try on

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bonus episodes.
This is one of the best things

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I've been sent in, like at least
a year.

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It's really, really good.
No 100%, man.

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This is a phenomenal whiskey
that I honestly can't say you

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get many of these by famous
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We we've tried a few, you know,
endorsed by famous folk brands

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that have not been great and
this is not one of them.

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This is absolutely amazing, Bob.
All right, well, let's get to

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this interview with Graham
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Brad, I'm so excited for you to
hear what we talked about.

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He was really familiar with you
and he particularly said, I hate

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that guy and all his movie
opinions.

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So yeah, well, let's get to it.
All right, everyone.

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I am joined by the man himself,
Graham Mctavish.

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Graham, thanks so much for
joining us on film and whiskey

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today.
Absolute pleasure.

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Delighted to be here, yeah.
Now listen, I have a lot of

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questions for you, so I hope
you're ready to get inundated

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here.
I'm ready with my answers.

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I don't know if we've ever had a
guest who is so well versed in

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both film and whiskey.
You, you're the resident expert.

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Just by virtue of being here,
you've already taken the crown.

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Well, that's right.
I just stormed the castle and

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I'm in occupation.
Yes.

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No, I I'm well, I'm glad to hear
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I'm glad to hear it.
Thank you.

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I was reading an article today,
you know, kind of going over

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your filmography and it went all
the way back to I guess what we

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could call your big break which
was a play that you Co wrote a 2

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hander about Vincent van Gogh
and.

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And I really love the article
placed an emphasis on just how

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much promotion you had to do to
kind of get your name out there

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with that play.
And I have seen a pattern

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throughout your career that you
are just such a generous guy

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with your time in terms of being
willing to give interviews,

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being willing to go on podcasts.
And there's a lot of actors that

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really value their personal time
and don't like giving

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interviews.
Where do you find the energy to

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be out here doing this so much?
Well, I mean there's there's two

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parts to my answer.
I would say the first one is

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just, you know, when it comes to
projects that I've been in like

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you know, films or TV, you know,
recently with anything that I've

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been in, you know, when I was in
Outlander.

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When I did The Hobbit, all of
those things, you have a

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professional obligation to
promote the things that you're

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in and be sure that's part of
your job.

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And I take that I I very much
come from a generation who takes

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that seriously.
You know that you're you.

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You have a professional
obligation to people that are

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relying on you to fulfill a
role.

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And and also that the the people
that are going to see those

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films or television or whatever
it is, that you have an

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obligation to them.
I feel a responsibility,

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particularly the kind of things
that I've done recently, which

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all weirdly seem to be somehow
connected with existing books.

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So, Outlander, The Hobbit, The
Witcher, House of the Dragon.

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Preacher.
Yeah, I mean, there's there's

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just been so many that have had
this kind of literary background

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with an existing fan base.
And when you have a huge fan

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base for things, you you have an
obligation to to treat those

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people seriously and absolutely
actually talk about, talk about

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it in a somewhat intelligible
way.

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But then there's the stuff that.
You know, not to say that I

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didn't believe in those projects
because I did and I was very,

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very much enjoyed doing them.
But then there are things that

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you have a real passionate
involvement in, a personal

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passionate involvement in.
So that would go back to the Van

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Gogh show or Van Gogh as you
say.

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Yeah.
Thank you.

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No, no, Ben Hoch, as they say in
Holland.

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But yeah, you know, so going
right back to that.

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I produced that.
I wrote it, Co wrote it with my

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friend Nick Pace and we told
that all over the world actually

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when I did, when I did Clan
Lands with Sam, that was

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something I really really,
really believed in and and and

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really wanted to promote.
Same with when when I've done

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Men in Kilts, I've really wanted
to push myself into.

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Talking about them and the same
with this, these are things that

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I I it's not like I've done
loads of this sort of stuff in

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my career.
You know, I I work hard when I'm

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doing the job that I'm doing.
I take it seriously and I put

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everything into it.
But then there are the things

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that have sort of dotted my
career, which are they've sort

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of sometimes come by accident.
The Van Gogh show being a

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perfect example, actually.
We were looking for a two man

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show we'd done Edward Albee's
The Zoo Story.

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We'd done it at the Edinburgh
Fringe Festival.

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It had gone well.
We liked working with each other

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and we were looking for another
two man show.

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We couldn't find one.
We really tried hard.

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We couldn't find one and it
needed to be around an Hourish

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longish hour and a half and we
couldn't find one and we bumped

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into a lady.
My friend worked at the National

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Gallery in London.
Nick worked there.

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We bumped into a lady in Covent
Garden Market and she said, oh,

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where are you going?
And you know, ask asking what we

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were doing.
And I said we're trying to find

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a play.
And she said, oh, well, I saw a

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play by a Dutch actor 10 years
ago, which would have then been

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in the 70s, a one man show about
Vincent van Gogh and the letters

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that he wrote to his brother
Thea.

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That was amazing.
And and this is the this is the

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strange thing.
And I, and I think this has been

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a feature of many of the things
that I would call forks in the

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road in my life.
On any other day, I can assure

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you that Nick and I would have
just gone to the pub and gone.

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That's really interesting.
And then just had five pints and

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forgotten all about it, all
resolved, said, Oh yeah, we'll

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do something about that.
But instead we went straight to

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a bookshop.
It was like I was sort of

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compelled and I went straight to
the bookshop and immediately

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found the book.
It was like it was waiting, the

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letters of Vincent van Gogh and
I picked it, picked it up on the

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bookshelf, bought it, took it
home.

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Read it from cover to cover and
immediately, because I knew only

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the basics of that.
Back off at that point.

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And I immediately thought, this
is an amazing story, this

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relationship we have with this
brother.

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So I wrote the play, Nick helped
me shape it into a a form that

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we could actually take to the
National Gallery.

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And then on it, on it went.
And we did.

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We we really threw ourselves
into publicity because we really

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believed in it and it was the
same.

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So what I did Long Day's Journey
into tonight which was a Eugene

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O'Neill play that I helped
produce in Scotland.

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Same with clan land same with
many kilts And now with this.

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So I I yes, it's a bit of a
compulsion.

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Strange thing.
It's it's almost something I

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don't really have control over
that if I was doing this, for

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instance, if I was, if I was
promoting a a whiskey brand that

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someone had paid me to endorse
or things like that, it just

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wouldn't be the same.
Yeah, I wouldn't feel that that

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that urge, that desire to talk
and that's something I really,

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really believed in.
But but it's different with this

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because there's been a there's
been a journey that's brought me

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to this point and and that's
something I want to to share.

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But also to to see this as the
not the beginning of a journey

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exactly.
But this is the early stages of

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something that I'm really
committed to long term.

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Absolutely.
So I don't want this to be for

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instance, the only the only
whiskey that I bring out.

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You know we have plans for the
future with with bourbons and

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it's something that I've just
got really into and and and want

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to you know these I feel like
I'm in the foothills that the

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the the small foothills of
something and I think people

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I've spoken to about bourbon,
you know bourbon is a mountain

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that you can never get to the
top of it's it's just just when

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you think you're at the top that
is.

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For sure there's a massive peak
in front of me, so.

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I will say take it take it from
a guy who's reviewed about 500

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bourbons on this this podcast
already there is there is no

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peak it is very much pushing the
rock up the hill and never

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getting to the top kind of a
thing exactly.

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So you know, I I hear again I
hear a pattern emerging here

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which is you really truly have
the actors spirit about how you

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approach everything that you
work on and.

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You know, I was listening to a
great interview with Tom Hanks

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and someone had asked him to
name his three favorite of his

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own films, and his answer was
essentially, I can't tell you

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the three best movies I worked
on.

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I can only tell you the three
best experiences I had on set,

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because as an actor it is so
hard to divorce the actual

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process of the work from the
final product.

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Very true.
And I'm just wondering if you

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can, Yeah, Can you comment on
that a little bit?

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When you go to a premiere and
you just see the film, are you

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able to watch it in a vacuum, or
is it impossible to divorce from

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the work you put in?
No, it's impossible.

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In fact, it's one of the reasons
that a lot of actors, myself

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included, don't watch the things
that they've been in.

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The reason?
Because I mean, not that I have

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it.
I've look for Outlander, for

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instance.
I mean, this is a terrible

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confession that Outlander fans
will be shocked by, but I've

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only seen two episodes of
Outlander of the Premier that I

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went to in San Diego, because
same with The Hobbit.

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I've seen the premiers of The
Hobbit, I watched The Hobbit

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with my kids.
Same with, you know, everything,

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Preacher, The Witcher,
everything.

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I the exception would be men in
kilts because I'm an executive

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producer on that and it's
something we created.

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So we've seen everything.
We have to watch everything but

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everything else.
It's a combination of crippling

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embarrassment because you, you
know, I think people, people

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sort of have a misconception
about actors or certainly some

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actors that they're just like
big show offs, you know, that

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they just love, you know, just
having people looking at them

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and all the rest of it.
And there's something that may

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be partly true, I'm not entirely
sure, but there's something else

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going on with with acting.
But what I can tell you is you

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you don't like watching yourself
doing it because the stage, of

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course it's perfect because on
stage these moments are gone

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forever.
You, you know, nobody's

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recording them well.
Sure, sure.

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It shouldn't be.
And you know when you when you

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do stage work, you're you're
just there in that in that

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moment.
And I think what Tom Hanks is

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talking about is, is sort of a
bit like that, that when you're

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doing it, what you remember
about these projects is the

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experience of doing it, not
necessarily the end result.

443
00:25:02,690 --> 00:25:05,650
And partly because you, you have
no control over the end result

444
00:25:05,690 --> 00:25:08,730
in film and television, really,
you're part of something much

445
00:25:08,770 --> 00:25:12,790
bigger.
And so you take the moment that

446
00:25:12,790 --> 00:25:16,870
you have on set and then you
kind of have to forget about it.

447
00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:20,310
Yeah.
But yeah, I think he's right.

448
00:25:20,590 --> 00:25:25,270
You know, my experiences, I
mean, certainly, I mean I can

449
00:25:25,270 --> 00:25:30,310
think of obviously Outlander The
Hobbit was definitely one.

450
00:25:30,750 --> 00:25:34,350
You know, the the, the moment.
I think, I mean there were still

451
00:25:34,350 --> 00:25:37,590
were hundreds and hundreds and
hundreds of moments on The

452
00:25:37,590 --> 00:25:44,280
Hobbit trilogy.
But the first moment when I oh,

453
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,560
it's a helicopter, The first
moment when I was the first wolf

454
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,680
to arrive at Bag End, right.
And when you stood in front of

455
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,640
the set of Bag End there it was
fully constructed, It was this

456
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,400
existing building and there was
the green door and I was in

457
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,680
costume.
They came and they did all the

458
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,960
the final checks.
They made sure I looked good.

459
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,190
And all the rest of it.
I knew what I was doing and I

460
00:26:10,190 --> 00:26:12,670
just had to on action.
I just had to knock on the door

461
00:26:13,790 --> 00:26:20,270
and and then the door opened and
that was this sort of signifying

462
00:26:20,270 --> 00:26:23,110
moment for me at the beginning
of something that I have no idea

463
00:26:23,110 --> 00:26:25,110
what it was going to be like, so
I've never forgotten it.

464
00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:30,070
Same with Rambo.
When I did Rambo with Stallone

465
00:26:31,310 --> 00:26:37,460
being on set with him, that his
sort of really open approach to

466
00:26:37,500 --> 00:26:40,220
improvisation, which I was
really surprised by.

467
00:26:40,660 --> 00:26:43,780
And just being when you're doing
improvisation, you really have

468
00:26:43,780 --> 00:26:47,580
to be super aware of what's
going on around you.

469
00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:51,740
Yeah, listening to what people
are saying, because bad

470
00:26:51,740 --> 00:26:53,740
improvisation is when people
don't listen.

471
00:26:55,300 --> 00:26:57,540
It's it's like bad conversation,
you know?

472
00:26:57,860 --> 00:26:59,620
It's like, I don't care what
you're going to say, I'm just

473
00:26:59,620 --> 00:27:04,110
going to say what I want anyway.
You know, part of the problem

474
00:27:04,110 --> 00:27:07,070
that we have in the world at the
moment, people don't listen.

475
00:27:08,030 --> 00:27:13,710
But but yeah, on on Rambo there
were moments, like out of body

476
00:27:13,710 --> 00:27:17,150
experiences where I became
suddenly aware.

477
00:27:17,150 --> 00:27:20,790
It was like a third eye was
watching me saying you are

478
00:27:20,790 --> 00:27:26,590
talking to Rambo, right?
And and I my, my brain couldn't

479
00:27:26,590 --> 00:27:29,550
quite process it.
It was as if I'd stepped inside

480
00:27:29,550 --> 00:27:32,760
the screen, like in, you know,
the last action hero when he

481
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,840
comes out.
Yeah, yeah, right.

482
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,800
It's it's like, what?
What?

483
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,960
And he's talking to me, right?
He's talking back.

484
00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:44,960
You, you become aware of your
own fandom in a sense, right?

485
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:48,320
Yeah.
Well, yes, it's you bring with

486
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:53,320
you your history as a as a film
fan.

487
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,760
Yeah, you know, a fan.
I mean my case a fan of Brando.

488
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,440
You know a fan of Still Best to
Stallone.

489
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:03,360
I grew up watching those films
and you know it's the same when

490
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:07,920
you you meet anybody, certainly
in my career that you know when

491
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:12,160
I met Christopher Lee and people
like that, you go, well, it's

492
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,320
almost too much to.
Take in absolutely.

493
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,960
Well, you you've mentioned a few
names here and and going through

494
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,160
your filmography you have
enjoyed the opportunity to work

495
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,040
with some major sort of a list
Hollywood stars and also some

496
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,200
some very major, I guess we
could call them a list directors

497
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,670
as well.
And I'm wondering like from a a

498
00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:34,230
set perspective being on there
on the day, is there a

499
00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:37,990
difference between working on a
project that is very star driven

500
00:28:38,350 --> 00:28:41,470
versus working on a project
where the director is sort of

501
00:28:41,470 --> 00:28:46,390
the star of the project?
Interesting, Good question.

502
00:28:49,150 --> 00:28:54,750
You know I've been I've
definitely been very lucky that

503
00:28:55,110 --> 00:28:59,640
the the sort of starry names
that I've worked with I've I've

504
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:04,720
all been actually very generous
people you know generous with

505
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:11,400
their time not not ego driven in
perhaps the way you might expect

506
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,440
actually interested in
collaboration and so that has

507
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,920
been a real feature for me.
I mean there's always

508
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,600
exceptions.
You know when you when you do

509
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,800
things and that there might be
somebody who's well known and

510
00:29:27,370 --> 00:29:32,290
you, you realize very quickly
that okay, they're going to be a

511
00:29:32,290 --> 00:29:35,770
bit tricky, tricky and you know
they're going to have them on

512
00:29:35,770 --> 00:29:38,650
stage as well.
But but the thing I've learned

513
00:29:38,730 --> 00:29:43,730
about those people is they tend
not to last.

514
00:29:44,930 --> 00:29:49,370
They can be, you know, they can
do well up to a point.

515
00:29:49,850 --> 00:29:53,050
But then there always comes a
point where actually the, the,

516
00:29:53,770 --> 00:29:57,050
the, the reality, the truth
about them as well.

517
00:29:57,250 --> 00:30:02,370
Artists I suppose emerges.
And and real artists, people

518
00:30:02,370 --> 00:30:06,970
that are interested in creating
things together, whether it's on

519
00:30:06,970 --> 00:30:10,010
film or television or with
whiskey or with a book or

520
00:30:10,210 --> 00:30:16,190
whatever, they're they're not.
I mean ego is involved because

521
00:30:16,190 --> 00:30:19,110
you'd have to have some kind of
an ego to even put these things

522
00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:20,310
out, right.
But right.

523
00:30:20,430 --> 00:30:22,230
I'm not.
I'm not that modest.

524
00:30:22,710 --> 00:30:26,910
But they're that isn't the
primary driver.

525
00:30:27,310 --> 00:30:30,590
It's actually the enjoyment of
the experience of making it.

526
00:30:30,910 --> 00:30:34,110
You know, like Sylvester
Stallone is a very good example.

527
00:30:35,710 --> 00:30:39,140
One thing that a lot of these
people, the best people that

528
00:30:39,140 --> 00:30:40,820
I've worked with, the kind of
people that you're talking

529
00:30:40,820 --> 00:30:43,940
about, that what they all have
in common is that they have a

530
00:30:43,940 --> 00:30:47,060
genuine childlike enthusiasm for
what they're doing.

531
00:30:48,060 --> 00:30:51,860
They are children.
Peter Jackson, I mean, Sylvester

532
00:30:51,860 --> 00:30:54,140
Stallone, I mean he's he's a
very scary child.

533
00:30:54,420 --> 00:31:01,140
But he's he's you know, and I'm
a child too in that sense.

534
00:31:01,420 --> 00:31:04,740
And you have to be in touch with
that part of yourself.

535
00:31:06,140 --> 00:31:11,530
The the the children have
enormous enthusiasm for things.

536
00:31:11,810 --> 00:31:14,010
The things that adults don't
really understand.

537
00:31:14,490 --> 00:31:18,010
You know, you can you watch a
child get involved in something

538
00:31:18,250 --> 00:31:21,130
and you're sort of like, what
are they saying there?

539
00:31:21,130 --> 00:31:25,010
I don't get it for the child.
It's everything.

540
00:31:25,410 --> 00:31:29,410
And and that's the thing that
that artists or people involved

541
00:31:29,410 --> 00:31:32,890
in this sort of industry or
whatever creation that they want

542
00:31:32,890 --> 00:31:35,330
to be involved in that they have
that in common.

543
00:31:36,010 --> 00:31:40,010
How much of that willingness to
collaborate comes from

544
00:31:40,010 --> 00:31:42,050
experience, though?
You know, I I look at your

545
00:31:42,050 --> 00:31:44,770
filmography and especially like
your most recent projects.

546
00:31:44,770 --> 00:31:47,250
Like to your point, they've all
been based on books, but they're

547
00:31:47,250 --> 00:31:50,410
all also sort of in the fantasy
genre in in some ways.

548
00:31:50,810 --> 00:31:54,370
And I wonder, like as a young
actor, would you have felt more

549
00:31:54,370 --> 00:31:57,650
insecure or maybe felt like
you're pigeonholing yourself

550
00:31:57,650 --> 00:32:00,050
more than you do now?
I I think there there seems to

551
00:32:00,050 --> 00:32:02,600
be.
With these established actors

552
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,800
and directors the ego sort of
falls away after a while and you

553
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,000
become more comfortable, you
know, with that collaborative

554
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,360
nature and and less concerned
with the you know the sort of

555
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,480
insecure how you're perceived as
you go along.

556
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,640
Yeah, it's, I don't know, it's
interesting.

557
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,760
I I think there's a little bit
of, you know, the law of mutual

558
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:30,300
attraction going on that stuff.
Because something that I learned

559
00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:36,580
about myself and I've accepted
is that my love and my real

560
00:32:36,580 --> 00:32:41,180
passion when it came to acting
wasn't necessarily Shakespeare,

561
00:32:41,180 --> 00:32:44,820
although I've done a lot of it
over the years in theater.

562
00:32:46,340 --> 00:32:51,060
It it was always this this
little little sort of thing on

563
00:32:51,060 --> 00:32:53,580
my shoulder that was that was
saying, yeah, but what about

564
00:32:53,980 --> 00:32:55,940
what about film?
What about TV?

565
00:32:55,940 --> 00:32:59,010
What about what about action?
What about fighting?

566
00:32:59,170 --> 00:33:01,730
What about all the things that
you what about swords?

567
00:33:02,010 --> 00:33:07,170
You know what don't we do a bit
more of that And so I don't

568
00:33:07,170 --> 00:33:11,370
think you know if if if people
are destined to take certain

569
00:33:11,370 --> 00:33:15,450
paths or be open to them anyway.
I I don't think my path was

570
00:33:15,450 --> 00:33:21,730
destined to be a lawyer in a TV
show or you know a doctor at a

571
00:33:21,730 --> 00:33:26,330
hospital or you know the the the
the the psychiatrist or you know

572
00:33:26,610 --> 00:33:29,450
the things that I I mean I'm not
saying I wouldn't want to do

573
00:33:29,450 --> 00:33:38,410
those things but I I love the
genre the the fantasy and I have

574
00:33:38,410 --> 00:33:41,130
sort of found myself getting
more involved in that.

575
00:33:41,730 --> 00:33:49,250
I I wanted to be a a Roman and I
did 2 Roman series back-to-back.

576
00:33:51,220 --> 00:33:54,940
I wanted to be in a kind of
Monty Python movie and I was in

577
00:33:54,940 --> 00:33:57,700
Eric the Viking with Terry Jones
and John Cleese.

578
00:33:58,860 --> 00:34:02,620
There was that I wanted to be a
cowboy and I got to do that in

579
00:34:02,620 --> 00:34:05,620
Preacher.
So there are things that I've

580
00:34:05,620 --> 00:34:11,139
always really, really, really
wanted to do, and perhaps that

581
00:34:11,139 --> 00:34:15,540
that level of desire just gives
you that edge when you are, when

582
00:34:15,540 --> 00:34:17,219
you're really going after it,
you know?

583
00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:21,630
And I've always wanted to be in
an action movie like Randa, So

584
00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:25,070
yeah.
In looking through your TV

585
00:34:25,070 --> 00:34:29,750
credits, I think that you have,
I don't know if it's unwittingly

586
00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:31,710
or or with full knowledge.
You've been involved in some

587
00:34:31,710 --> 00:34:35,150
really groundbreaking television
shows, and now in particular,

588
00:34:35,230 --> 00:34:38,550
you know you did at least a
couple episodes, I think of the

589
00:34:38,670 --> 00:34:41,389
Ali G show when that first came
out.

590
00:34:41,909 --> 00:34:45,710
And you were also involved in
24, which is a show especially

591
00:34:45,710 --> 00:34:47,929
in America.
You know, I think we give a lot

592
00:34:47,929 --> 00:34:51,730
of credit to the sort of the
Bourne Identity movies for

593
00:34:51,730 --> 00:34:55,409
introducing the sort of real
grounded, the Paul Greengrass

594
00:34:55,409 --> 00:34:58,570
shaky Cam kind of thing.
I think 24 actually may have

595
00:34:58,570 --> 00:35:00,650
even preceded the first Bourne
movie.

596
00:35:01,410 --> 00:35:04,050
And and it's just, it's really
interesting to me.

597
00:35:04,050 --> 00:35:07,050
Are you aware when you're
working on these sort of

598
00:35:07,050 --> 00:35:11,170
groundbreaking projects, whether
it's in comedy or action, do you

599
00:35:11,170 --> 00:35:14,330
know that they're brewing
something that hasn't been seen

600
00:35:14,330 --> 00:35:20,350
before?
Not entirely.

601
00:35:21,230 --> 00:35:27,590
I mean with with 24, I was a
huge fan and and that's actually

602
00:35:27,590 --> 00:35:30,210
been another feature of things
that I've been involved in.

603
00:35:30,210 --> 00:35:33,370
You know, I was a fan of Lord of
the Rings and I got to be in The

604
00:35:33,370 --> 00:35:35,490
Hobbit.
I was a fan of 24.

605
00:35:35,490 --> 00:35:39,250
I was a fan of Prison Break.
I was a fan of the Preacher

606
00:35:39,250 --> 00:35:42,330
graphic novels.
And so I was a fan of Monty

607
00:35:42,330 --> 00:35:45,850
Python.
So the being invited to be part

608
00:35:45,850 --> 00:35:48,770
of those things was just so
exciting.

609
00:35:50,130 --> 00:35:52,130
Yeah, I was a fan of Rambo.
Yeah.

610
00:35:52,170 --> 00:35:56,050
You know so I I but 24 I mean
very groundbreaking.

611
00:35:56,350 --> 00:36:00,190
I mean the split screen
absolutely real time stuff.

612
00:36:00,190 --> 00:36:03,950
I mean I never, I'll never
forget the first pilot episode

613
00:36:04,070 --> 00:36:07,950
of the first season of 24 and at
the end you know, you watch you

614
00:36:07,950 --> 00:36:10,790
know and that they're Hostess
and that thing and the guy, you

615
00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:12,710
know blowing up the plane,
jumping out and you're just.

616
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:14,950
Right, right.
What?

617
00:36:15,150 --> 00:36:19,310
Yeah.
And and and it really, I think,

618
00:36:19,310 --> 00:36:22,830
marked truly addictive
television.

619
00:36:24,350 --> 00:36:26,820
You know, you you have to keep
watching.

620
00:36:27,180 --> 00:36:31,220
You have to keep, you know, and
I mean, there were, there's

621
00:36:31,220 --> 00:36:35,180
always been popular shows, but
the television has come through

622
00:36:35,180 --> 00:36:39,100
many iterations over the years.
You know, it's gone away from

623
00:36:39,620 --> 00:36:42,860
the everybody watching the same
show on a Friday night, you

624
00:36:42,860 --> 00:36:46,260
know, 10s of millions of people
tuning in because there's only

625
00:36:46,260 --> 00:36:51,180
like 4 channels or whatever to
multiple choices.

626
00:36:51,850 --> 00:36:55,330
And those shows having to having
to hold on to you.

627
00:36:55,850 --> 00:36:59,730
You know, you want you want to
see the the season finale of

628
00:36:59,730 --> 00:37:01,890
Succession.
You know you want to, you want

629
00:37:01,890 --> 00:37:05,210
to see what happens after
they've cut Sean Bean's head off

630
00:37:05,210 --> 00:37:07,690
at the beginning of the season.
One of the greater Thrones,

631
00:37:08,570 --> 00:37:13,490
those moments where you go,
bloody hell, I wasn't expecting

632
00:37:14,050 --> 00:37:17,290
to happen.
So, yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm a

633
00:37:17,290 --> 00:37:20,300
fan of all of that stuff.
And so when I'm in it, when I'm,

634
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:27,420
when I, when I'm a part of it, I
mean I I I love, I mean, you

635
00:37:27,420 --> 00:37:30,060
know, well, I can't talk about
that, that particular one.

636
00:37:30,060 --> 00:37:34,340
But there are things that I've,
I've done where I've as I've

637
00:37:34,340 --> 00:37:38,300
been doing them, looking forward
to what people will think of it.

638
00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:41,820
This is going to be.
They're going to love this.

639
00:37:42,620 --> 00:37:45,180
All right, before we get off of
movies, we are titling this

640
00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:46,700
episode.
It's part of our series that we

641
00:37:46,700 --> 00:37:50,270
call my favorite Movie.
And so you know it is.

642
00:37:50,350 --> 00:37:52,350
It is such an obvious question
to ask you.

643
00:37:52,350 --> 00:37:56,550
But if you had to pinpoint one
film that you just, you could

644
00:37:56,550 --> 00:38:01,710
never get rid of, if if forced
to at gunpoint, what what would

645
00:38:01,710 --> 00:38:03,950
you consider your favorite film?
OK.

646
00:38:04,150 --> 00:38:08,550
It's it's not perhaps, I'm not
sure how many Americans have

647
00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:11,470
seen it because it pertains very
much to a particular point in

648
00:38:11,470 --> 00:38:16,430
British history.
And it also marks, I think one

649
00:38:16,430 --> 00:38:22,690
of the last great epic British
war films, I suppose you call

650
00:38:22,690 --> 00:38:27,290
it, which is Zulu.
Oh yeah, which I have seen at

651
00:38:27,290 --> 00:38:32,730
least 10 times.
And it's it's just a perfect

652
00:38:32,730 --> 00:38:37,730
film and and also the story
behind the making of it that

653
00:38:38,050 --> 00:38:41,570
that there's a perfect, I mean
Stanley Baker who who was one of

654
00:38:41,570 --> 00:38:43,690
the stars in it, Michael Caine's
first movie.

655
00:38:45,340 --> 00:38:47,740
Stanley Baker, it was his
passion project.

656
00:38:48,060 --> 00:38:52,140
So I really identify with that
as well that he he moved heaven

657
00:38:52,140 --> 00:38:54,900
and earth to get that film made.
You know, and I'm trying to do

658
00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:57,540
the same with a couple of movies
myself that I'm trying to

659
00:38:57,540 --> 00:39:01,740
produce and and work on and you
know, the sense of achievement

660
00:39:01,740 --> 00:39:06,220
he must have had doing that and
and the fantastic end result

661
00:39:06,740 --> 00:39:11,900
it's it's it's just such an
incredible story of mutual

662
00:39:11,900 --> 00:39:18,550
heroism both from the Zulus and
from the 24th Regiment afoot at

663
00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:21,950
Rocks Drift.
It's it's an incredible true

664
00:39:21,950 --> 00:39:25,950
story and it's filmed
brilliantly and yeah, music,

665
00:39:26,110 --> 00:39:27,750
everything about it.
I just love Zulu.

666
00:39:28,350 --> 00:39:29,670
I think you're absolutely right
though.

667
00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:35,430
There's almost a sub genre of
sort of late 60s, early 70s epic

668
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:37,590
films, especially in Britain
that I feel like.

669
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,640
Really got passed over by the
general public or or, you know,

670
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,600
I think about John Houston's The
Man Who Would Be King.

671
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,360
I think about some of the later
David Lean films.

672
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,360
It's just really interesting
that tastes had changed, I

673
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,200
guess.
But when you go back and

674
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,600
rediscover some of these movies,
it's not like they were

675
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,840
forgotten because they lacked
quality.

676
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,560
In fact that, you know, they're
the scale of these.

677
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,280
You're absolutely right.
They just don't do it like that

678
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,440
anymore.
No.

679
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,920
And and what's interesting about
a film like Zulu is that

680
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,760
although it opens in the
aftermath of Islana, the big

681
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,280
massacre of the British troops,
you don't see the battle.

682
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,480
You know, you see some people
walking around, you know some

683
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,680
dead bodies and stuff like that.
And you have Richard Burton's

684
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:28,920
voice over coming in.
But if that film was made now,

685
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,560
it would have to have a big
battle at the beginning.

686
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,040
They would have to have real
action right from the get go.

687
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,280
There would have to be something
to catch the audience.

688
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,360
Whereas this begins in this
really gentle way.

689
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,320
You know men in a river building
a bridge.

690
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:48,960
You know a bit of comedy bit of
this going on and and the slow

691
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,880
build, the inexorable.
You know that something's

692
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,480
coming, something not great is
coming and they're going to find

693
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,520
out, but you're going to find
out with them.

694
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,040
And so that the audience are
together with the characters.

695
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,960
The the audience haven't got a
they haven't got an advantage or

696
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,400
they haven't got a they haven't
been previewed with something.

697
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,120
They they are with them.
And that's something that I

698
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:21,600
think film to some degree has
lost that that the need to grab

699
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,400
people's attention.
Now the short The shortness of

700
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:29,120
people's attention span won't
allow them to let films unfold

701
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,280
in the way that perhaps
something like Zulu did.

702
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,480
Sure.
Are there any films or actors in

703
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,400
particular now now that you've
been in the business as long as

704
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,240
you have, that you've developed
an appreciation for that you may

705
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:44,600
not have had before you got into
the business?

706
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,760
Oh gosh, yeah.
That's a great question.

707
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,720
I was just talking with somebody
that this week about Matt Damon

708
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,920
as an A list star and how Damon.
Is is such a subtle actor, but

709
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:03,160
he is, he's so uninterested it
seems in big showy performances

710
00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:06,000
and he's he anchors every I mean
he's great.

711
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,320
And Oppenheimer, he just, you
know he's not trying to upstage

712
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,480
anyone in that film.
And so I feel like there's once

713
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,280
you, once you know what you're
looking for and you know what to

714
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,640
see from everyone who's
supporting, you know, whoever

715
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,400
the star of the scene is, quote,
UN quote, I just feel like

716
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,560
there's so many actors that go
unsung.

717
00:42:25,090 --> 00:42:28,090
Because they're not trying to
steal the spotlight, you know?

718
00:42:28,450 --> 00:42:29,210
Yeah.
Yeah.

719
00:42:29,210 --> 00:42:34,050
No, I agree.
I mean, you know, I have a great

720
00:42:34,050 --> 00:42:37,690
appreciation of of some of that.
I like Leonardo DiCaprio as an

721
00:42:37,690 --> 00:42:41,370
actor because his range is so
great.

722
00:42:41,970 --> 00:42:46,610
You know, he really does have,
you know, I would.

723
00:42:47,010 --> 00:42:51,050
I mean it's not competition, but
you know I would place him.

724
00:42:52,250 --> 00:42:56,770
I mean Tom Hanks is is great,
but I think his real strength is

725
00:42:56,770 --> 00:43:00,530
playing that every man character
that identified with, which is a

726
00:43:00,530 --> 00:43:02,370
great skill.
It's not different.

727
00:43:02,490 --> 00:43:08,610
It's not easy to do that, but
but Leo manages to really cover

728
00:43:08,610 --> 00:43:12,970
so much, so much, you know,
comedy, action, you know, just

729
00:43:12,970 --> 00:43:15,210
just he's done all of that sort
of stuff.

730
00:43:23,610 --> 00:43:17,170
Enjoyed so much as an actor.
And and I think the other person

731
00:43:17,170 --> 00:43:21,330
that I would from the past that
I would compare that to someone

732
00:43:21,330 --> 00:43:27,650
like Gene Hackman who I really.
You never saw a film with Gene

733
00:43:27,650 --> 00:43:29,810
Hackman in it where Gene Hackman
did a bad job.

734
00:43:30,130 --> 00:43:32,930
Yeah, he he he's done that.
And he is exactly that kind of

735
00:43:32,930 --> 00:43:35,850
person who is all about making
the film great.

736
00:43:36,050 --> 00:43:38,390
Yep.
The story telling the story.

737
00:43:38,590 --> 00:43:43,670
So when you see him in something
like Unforgiven, he's he's great

738
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:47,470
in that film that he is a
supporting character to Clint

739
00:43:47,470 --> 00:43:53,910
Eastwood and and and he plays
it, you know to perfection and

740
00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:58,590
and those are always the actors
that I've wanted to emulate if I

741
00:43:58,590 --> 00:44:01,590
can.
You know that I've I've always

742
00:44:01,590 --> 00:44:07,120
wanted to just be true to the
story and play my role.

743
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,240
So you know, when when I, when I
did the first season of House of

744
00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:15,320
the Dragon, it was a real
departure for me in a lot of

745
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,480
ways because although I was
carrying a bloody great sword

746
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,000
and there were Dragons and all
the rest of it going on, I was a

747
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,720
very, very morally upright
correct individual.

748
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:32,000
I didn't have loads to say, but
my role wasn't my.

749
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,480
My role meant that he wouldn't
be talking all the time.

750
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:41,640
That's not what he would do.
He listens, He absorbs, he takes

751
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:42,880
in.
He has his own personal

752
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,960
opinions, and those are
expressed in the end.

753
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,720
You see how he feels about these
people in the end, But it's his.

754
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:56,000
It's his silence, his lack of
expression that actually speaks

755
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,320
volumes about his character.
Same with Preacher.

756
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:06,350
When I did Preacher, which was a
sort of echo somewhat of Clint

757
00:45:06,350 --> 00:45:09,390
Eastwood's characters in some of
the Westerns that he's done.

758
00:45:09,390 --> 00:45:13,070
And it was actually written by
Garth Dennis as that, as a Clint

759
00:45:13,070 --> 00:45:18,550
Eastwood sort of character.
Again, he barely speaks, but

760
00:45:18,550 --> 00:45:23,310
he's all about that brooding,
terrifying silence.

761
00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:26,470
Absolutely.
And I think that's, you know,

762
00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:31,840
I've learned that along the way
that, you know, it's as somebody

763
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,480
said, it's not that you don't
have anything to say, it's you

764
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,760
choose not to say it.
That's the life lesson from

765
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,080
today.
Always shoot for brooding,

766
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,560
terrifying silence.
That's my take away.

767
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,600
It's carried me through my life.
You know, when I go and get a

768
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,120
coffee, I don't tell them all I
want.

769
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,520
I let them guess from.
That's it.

770
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,280
That's it.
I bet you get a lot of free

771
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,160
coffee out of that as well.
That's right.

772
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,720
It works every time.
Yeah, it just want me out of the

773
00:45:59,720 --> 00:46:01,720
storm.
Graham, before we let you go

774
00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:03,400
today, I do want to talk about
the whiskey.

775
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,840
Let's let's dive into this
whiskey now, as I said, I've

776
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,440
tasted it already.
It is absolutely delicious.

777
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,720
I think the obvious question
that that Americans in

778
00:46:11,720 --> 00:46:14,920
particular are going to ask
about This is why bourbon?

779
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,720
Like why not Scotch?
You know, we we would have

780
00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:20,510
anticipated that from you.
What was it about bourbon that

781
00:46:20,510 --> 00:46:22,390
made you want to put your stamp
on that?

782
00:46:22,910 --> 00:46:29,270
Well, I my experience at bourbon
began, gosh, nearly 20 years

783
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:33,710
ago, actually, with an American
friend of mine when I moved to

784
00:46:33,710 --> 00:46:38,590
America, an actor called Nolan
North who's a wonderful voice

785
00:46:38,710 --> 00:46:42,750
actor, primarily fabulous,
wonderful guy, and he introduced

786
00:46:42,750 --> 00:46:46,710
me to bourbon.
And the thing about it is that

787
00:46:47,390 --> 00:46:52,550
obviously being Scottish, my
father you know regularly used

788
00:46:52,550 --> 00:46:55,230
to bring Scotch out.
We toasted the table.

789
00:46:56,030 --> 00:46:59,430
He's deeply rooted in you as as
somebody from Scotland, from

790
00:46:59,590 --> 00:47:02,550
from the UK, that you know
that's that's our drink.

791
00:47:02,750 --> 00:47:05,910
That's our drink.
And and when I tried bourbon,

792
00:47:06,590 --> 00:47:09,430
the thing that I noticed almost
immediately, well, immediately

793
00:47:09,430 --> 00:47:17,160
in fact, was I preferred it and
and and it it, it actually pains

794
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,640
me to say it a little bit.
Because it does feel a little

795
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:25,840
bit like heresy, and that's a
disrespect towards Scotch.

796
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,760
Because I do like Scotch.
There's loads of whiskeys.

797
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,080
I love, you know, petey
whiskeys.

798
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,320
Not so petey, you know Highland
Park.

799
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,720
Loads of different, different
iterations of whiskey that I've

800
00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:39,000
really enjoyed.
But that first taste that I had

801
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:43,570
with Nolan and I think a lot of
people who no Scotch but don't

802
00:47:43,570 --> 00:47:47,010
know bourbon kind of just think
it's just the kind of an

803
00:47:47,010 --> 00:47:51,890
American substitute for Scotch
without realizing that it is its

804
00:47:51,930 --> 00:47:55,170
own unique spirit.
Absolutely.

805
00:47:55,570 --> 00:47:59,730
When I took that first sip, I
thought, Oh yeah no, this is

806
00:47:59,890 --> 00:48:02,370
this is different.
This is not Scotch.

807
00:48:02,370 --> 00:48:07,850
This is something else.
And I loved I I I loved the the

808
00:48:07,850 --> 00:48:10,290
sweetness to it.
I have to be the you know that

809
00:48:10,610 --> 00:48:15,790
the slight the the syrupy
quality you know as it as it

810
00:48:15,790 --> 00:48:20,030
went down your your across your
palate and that was was

811
00:48:20,030 --> 00:48:24,310
beautiful and but also with the
Scotland American thing it's a

812
00:48:24,310 --> 00:48:28,750
little bit like my acting career
there was a part of me that felt

813
00:48:28,750 --> 00:48:31,470
that well I should have been I
should be doing Shakespeare.

814
00:48:31,470 --> 00:48:35,470
I should be doing this but my
love lay elsewhere.

815
00:48:35,470 --> 00:48:41,600
My love lay in American movies,
TV, action, you know, all of

816
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:46,120
those things, you know, that I
was describing earlier and and I

817
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:51,480
consciously made that move as an
actor nearly 20 years ago to, to

818
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:56,360
be honest and go, no, this is
who I am, you know, this is what

819
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,400
I want to be doing.
Yeah, I went and I booked rando

820
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:04,120
when I arrived and and that set
the pattern for for the career

821
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:10,100
that I've had since then really.
And this, this is the same I I

822
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:14,180
knew that I liked bourbon, that
I preferred it.

823
00:49:14,260 --> 00:49:18,060
I didn't ever mention that.
And when I finally got together

824
00:49:18,060 --> 00:49:24,420
with Connor and and Paul, the
people that really started my

825
00:49:24,420 --> 00:49:27,820
proper journey with with
Bourbon, I understood that this

826
00:49:27,820 --> 00:49:30,060
was something, this was
something else I wanted to do,

827
00:49:30,060 --> 00:49:32,260
that I wanted to devote passion
into.

828
00:49:32,900 --> 00:49:36,380
And that Scotland, the Scottish
connection with America.

829
00:49:37,490 --> 00:49:41,650
What what really started to
spark my imagination was the the

830
00:49:41,650 --> 00:49:46,570
history the the the fact that
the Scots and the Irish and the

831
00:49:46,570 --> 00:49:49,170
English, let's not forget the
English.

832
00:49:50,010 --> 00:49:53,170
They came over and they settled
in that particular part of the

833
00:49:53,170 --> 00:49:58,370
Eastern United States and and
brought with them a love of

834
00:49:58,370 --> 00:50:02,280
distilling spirit grain.
You know they wanted to do they

835
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,960
want.
They they they knew how to do

836
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,800
it.
And and the fact that it's tax

837
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,840
really Washington is what he did
by trying to tax these people

838
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,560
that forced them W that made
them discover these great

839
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:21,000
limestone you know, iron free
waters and all the rest of it

840
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,880
that was so perfect for making
this particular spirit.

841
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:29,910
This wonderful accident happened
and I love the the history of

842
00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:34,310
accidents in that sense.
And and I suppose you know, once

843
00:50:34,550 --> 00:50:40,430
I I blended that with my my
already growing love of bourbon,

844
00:50:40,750 --> 00:50:45,310
my own sort of private
confession that I actually

845
00:50:45,310 --> 00:50:48,950
preferred it with my love of
history, there was only one

846
00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:51,350
thing that I could do and that
would be to make my own bourbon

847
00:50:51,350 --> 00:50:53,910
brand and not make Scotch.
Absolutely.

848
00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:57,070
It actually meant that that that
couldn't be something I could do

849
00:50:57,070 --> 00:51:00,370
because it wouldn't be honest.
Well, I cannot speak highly

850
00:51:00,370 --> 00:51:03,610
enough of the whiskey itself.
I, you know, I'm looking forward

851
00:51:03,610 --> 00:51:07,730
to all the future releases.
But if this were to be the only

852
00:51:07,730 --> 00:51:11,690
one, I would still say, you
know, stamp of approval and Gold

853
00:51:11,690 --> 00:51:14,850
Star, because this is just a
phenomenal whiskey that you've

854
00:51:14,850 --> 00:51:17,570
chosen.
Thank you so much.

855
00:51:17,570 --> 00:51:22,250
That's that's really love me.
I'm so glad that you feel that.

856
00:51:22,330 --> 00:51:23,610
Yeah.
Means a lot.

857
00:51:23,650 --> 00:51:29,600
It really does, because I hate
the term sort of celebrity

858
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,360
brands.
It actually makes me physically

859
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,840
wince.
But if if if I can, if I can

860
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:42,840
introduce my love of not just
bourbon but my belief in this to

861
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,360
a wider audience, then that that
would be worth it.

862
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,440
Having that tied to it, But I I
definitely want to emphasize

863
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,640
that I'm not here to be the face
of something.

864
00:51:54,090 --> 00:51:56,130
I'm here to be in it for the
long haul.

865
00:51:56,490 --> 00:51:58,930
And this is something that I
really believe in and I want to,

866
00:51:59,330 --> 00:52:05,130
I want to grow and and I want to
learn as well in the process of

867
00:52:05,130 --> 00:52:07,410
creating it.
Well, with our last few minutes

868
00:52:07,410 --> 00:52:09,930
here in the interview, I've
always found that the best way

869
00:52:09,930 --> 00:52:13,610
to endear yourself to your guest
is to completely blindside them

870
00:52:13,610 --> 00:52:15,570
with the segment that they did
not prepare for.

871
00:52:15,690 --> 00:52:19,620
So in the spirit.
In the spirit of that, I'm

872
00:52:19,620 --> 00:52:22,300
actually very excited for this.
We've done this before with

873
00:52:22,660 --> 00:52:25,060
brand ambassadors and master
distillers.

874
00:52:25,300 --> 00:52:29,300
We took a questionnaire that was
popularized in America on the

875
00:52:29,300 --> 00:52:32,340
show inside the Actors Studio
with James Lipton.

876
00:52:32,980 --> 00:52:35,660
He asked a very famous
questionnaire in the latter half

877
00:52:35,660 --> 00:52:39,580
of each episode and we modified
it to call it inside the whiskey

878
00:52:39,580 --> 00:52:43,020
studio.
This is the first time that I

879
00:52:43,020 --> 00:52:45,660
will get to give the
questionnaire to.

880
00:52:46,110 --> 00:52:50,430
A Hollywood actor I have.
I have to I have to warn you,

881
00:52:50,790 --> 00:52:53,070
this is going to be.
I'm putting you on the spot

882
00:52:53,070 --> 00:52:54,310
here.
Rapid fire.

883
00:52:54,950 --> 00:52:57,350
Are you ready for the film and
Whiskey questionnaire?

884
00:52:57,870 --> 00:52:59,430
OK, right.
Yes.

885
00:53:00,510 --> 00:53:08,950
What is your favorite word?
Subtle.

886
00:53:09,630 --> 00:53:14,310
What is your least favorite word
control?

887
00:53:15,490 --> 00:53:24,610
What sound or noise do you love?
Well, this probably the sound of

888
00:53:24,610 --> 00:53:27,970
my children's voices.
What sound or noise do you hate?

889
00:53:31,250 --> 00:53:32,850
So many?
The sound?

890
00:53:35,010 --> 00:53:39,730
The sound of people talking on
their phone with the the.

891
00:53:40,210 --> 00:53:42,370
Oh yeah, the speaker on in
public.

892
00:53:43,910 --> 00:53:46,390
What's a profession other than
your own that you would like to

893
00:53:46,390 --> 00:53:51,190
attempt?
Oh, I don't think I'd

894
00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:55,990
necessarily be any good at it,
but something with my hands, so

895
00:53:55,990 --> 00:54:00,590
something like carpentry.
Who are your favorite fictional

896
00:54:00,590 --> 00:54:05,910
heroes?
My favorite fictional heroes?

897
00:54:08,190 --> 00:54:09,990
Oh, let me think.
Hold on.

898
00:54:10,710 --> 00:54:18,510
Well, yeah, probably.
Probably a rat mole and badger

899
00:54:18,550 --> 00:54:20,670
in the Wind of the Willows.
There you go.

900
00:54:21,470 --> 00:54:24,950
Who's your favorite musician?
Led Zeppelin.

901
00:54:25,430 --> 00:54:26,910
Oh, nice.
Yeah.

902
00:54:27,590 --> 00:54:31,870
What is a natural gift or talent
that you do not possess that you

903
00:54:31,870 --> 00:54:36,950
wish you did the ability to play
a musical instrument and 100%?

904
00:54:37,470 --> 00:54:39,910
What's your what's your desire
there?

905
00:54:39,910 --> 00:54:40,790
Drums.
Bass.

906
00:54:40,830 --> 00:54:44,520
Guitar.
Probably, Yeah, probably guitar,

907
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,400
yeah.
I mean, I'm a Led Zeppelin fan,

908
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,680
you know.
All right, not to get too morbid

909
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,280
here, but these are always great
answers.

910
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:56,120
If you had a say in how you
died, how would you prefer to go

911
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:10,800
out?
Oh, I think probably, suddenly,

912
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:12,980
yeah.
Yeah, I've always preferred the

913
00:55:13,020 --> 00:55:15,940
old, like Looney Tunes having a
piano dropped on me.

914
00:55:15,940 --> 00:55:20,380
Kind of feeling exactly all
right.

915
00:55:20,380 --> 00:55:23,020
And finally, this one requires a
bit of context.

916
00:55:23,260 --> 00:55:26,180
We've had a lot of people
suggest pairing their whiskeys

917
00:55:26,180 --> 00:55:30,540
with very expensive meats and
charcuterie, and that did not

918
00:55:30,540 --> 00:55:32,980
necessarily appeal to our ideal
listener.

919
00:55:32,980 --> 00:55:37,780
And so we always ask this if you
had to pair Mctavish spirits

920
00:55:38,220 --> 00:55:44,620
with a fast food item.
What would it be really

921
00:55:44,620 --> 00:55:50,660
difficult A fast food item?
I mean, you look like a guy that

922
00:55:50,660 --> 00:55:53,500
consumes, you know, copious
amounts of fast food.

923
00:55:53,940 --> 00:55:55,380
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no.

924
00:55:55,420 --> 00:56:02,420
Well, I mean, I'm happy.
Sure, a fast food item.

925
00:56:02,420 --> 00:56:05,420
Now when you say a fast food
item, not a branded item, but

926
00:56:05,420 --> 00:56:08,420
just to kind of.
It could be if it's very

927
00:56:08,420 --> 00:56:17,970
particular to A to a brand,
that's OK Okay, let me think.

928
00:56:19,650 --> 00:56:23,690
It's I'm trying to remember
because I lived in New Orleans

929
00:56:23,730 --> 00:56:25,890
for two years when I was a
preacher.

930
00:56:26,650 --> 00:56:33,210
And yeah, they that that that
unique sandwich that they have

931
00:56:33,210 --> 00:56:34,570
down there.
What is it?

932
00:56:34,610 --> 00:56:36,970
Oh, a po boy.
Yes.

933
00:56:37,010 --> 00:56:40,100
Yeah, Okay.
That's what I would choose.

934
00:56:40,100 --> 00:56:42,660
Man, that sounds amazing right
now.

935
00:56:42,660 --> 00:56:47,140
I'm sipping the whiskey right
now and a shrimp po boy sounds

936
00:56:47,420 --> 00:56:49,220
pretty incredible.
A shrimp PO.

937
00:56:49,820 --> 00:56:52,500
Yes, that's the one.
Well done.

938
00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:54,180
We got there in the end.
Yeah, we did.

939
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,520
Graham, I cannot thank you
enough for joining us today.

940
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,000
Thank you for rolling with the
punches.

941
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,760
Thank you for completing the
questionnaire.

942
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,920
And most of all, thank you for
this whiskey.

943
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,440
Oh, my pleasure.
Thank you.

944
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,040
I'm.
I'm delighted that you like it.

945
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:08,200
Thanks for having.
Me.

946
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,320
Absolutely, folks.
We will be back on Tuesday with

947
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,760
another regularly scheduled
episode, but until then, I Am

948
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,920
Bob book and we will see you
next time.