Zach's Whiskey Corner: Wayne's World / Old Forester Birthday Bourbon 2023 ft. Ian Sulkowski, Brown-Forman

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Hello everybody.
This is Zachary Johnston and

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this is Zach's Whiskey Quarter,
a special edition of the Film

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and Whiskey Podcast where I get
to watch my favorite movies and

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drink some of my favorite
whiskeys with the people I love

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in the whiskey industry.
And today we have one of my

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favorite films of all time for
my childhood, Wayne's World.

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We're going to be drinking one
of my favorite whiskeys of 2023

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with one of my favorite people
from the whiskey industry.

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And let's first introduce our
guests.

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Then we'll leave the whiskey as
more of a surprise.

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So I'm here with Ian Skolkowski
from Old Forrester.

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Ian, welcome.
Thanks for having me, Zach.

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Stoked to be here, man.
Oh.

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Stoked to have you dude.
We just actually bumped into

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each other the other night
randomly at Galaxy Bar and had a

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great cocktail made with some
delicious old Forrester.

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Yeah, yeah.
It was great to see you there.

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Always good to run into you and
you know, people downtown for

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happy hours.
Yeah, we're in the middle of

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Whiskey Row November, so big
brand push and doing a lot of

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happy hours.
So that was a real treat to run

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into you, man.
Absolutely.

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And so for the audience
listening, Ian works with old

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Forrester and that's sort of how
we met through, you know,

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working with the brand.
I'm a big fan of a lot of what

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they do, but especially their
special releases.

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So, Ian, why don't you tell us a
little bit about what you do?

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Yeah, man, for sure.
So I my current role is brand

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ambassador and it's a lot of
fun.

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I get to be the face of the
brand.

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There's APR element to it.
So, you know, making cocktails

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on local TV, sometimes some of
it's sort of field marketing

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work.
So educating bartenders about

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our brands and you know, sort of
bringing them into the fold to

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be Old Forester enthusiasts
themselves.

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But I really got started in the
sort of home place of Old

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Forester at the distillery on
Whiskey Row.

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So most recently whenever I was
there, I was sort of working in

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and curating the Single Barrel
program, which was a blast.

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So did that for a little over a
year and then moved on to this

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current role.
And I've been with the brand and

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some capacity started in 2018
December.

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So it's been a fun ride and just
enjoy it every day.

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That sounds great.
And since you're the guest, why

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don't you introduce which
whiskey we're going to be

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drinking with Wayne's World?
Yes, So this is a very special

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whiskey.
This is our 2023 Old Forester

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Birthday Bourbon.
Nice.

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That is one of the more coveted
bourbons in the whiskey release

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calendar, I'd say.
Absolutely, yeah.

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So this is the 23rd release of
Birthday Bourbon.

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I know we'll talk about it a
little bit more later, but

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absolutely this, this is very
much a coveted whiskey.

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It's one that people seek out.
And so we're very fortunate to

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have some today to enjoy here.
Absolutely.

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When you when you recommended it
and you're like right if we do

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this, I was like oh, oh please
twist my.

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Army Twist my army.
Yeah.

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Easy sell, right?
Oh, for sure.

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Tell me about your relationship
with the good, the excellent

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Wings world.
Man, it's so funny.

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I had not watched this movie,
probably since I was in like

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middle school.
Well, and I remember, so when I

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was sort of coming of age,
Austin Powers was big, right?

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And so my sort of introduction
to Michael Myers was those

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movies.
And you know, all of the humor

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that at that time I I caught
maybe like 30% of, but still

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thought it was hilarious and
loved his impressions and his

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sort of spontaneity and
delivery.

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And so he along with like Jim
Carrey.

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I think I was being like two of
the sort of comedy icons or

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movies whenever I was a kid and
growing up and then actually

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wasn't until a little bit later.
But I think, you know, whenever

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I was like starting to play
instruments and play in bands

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and stuff because I was really
into like classic rock.

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Whenever I was in like middle
school, high school.

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And my friends and I I think
rented this one from the local

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video store back when those were
still a thing and watched Lane's

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World.
And I I don't think I got it as

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much.
And going back and watching it

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as an adult was just so
gratifying because it was it was

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really a treat.
Absolutely, yeah.

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It's a very meta film, really.
Yeah, like and it swings for the

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fences and kind of it still
runs.

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Yeah, I age myself a little bit
here, but I remember vividly

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going to see this film in
Olympia, WA on a double feature.

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And the first film was Beauty
and the Beast.

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And then this was the second
film.

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And.
It was a packed crowd the whole

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time and I remember loving it
as, you know, a 13 year old.

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It was just like hit perfectly
for me at my age.

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I was with my half sister who
was 10 years older than me, so

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we both would stay up late and
watch SNL.

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So, and this was very my era
too.

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So like ladies going to early
90s still hard and like Meyers

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and Harvey Farley, you know, all
those guys, David Spade.

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So this was like my like you
know how things like hit when

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you're like having your
awakening from childhood into

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adulthood and they sort of like
stick with you and it's sort of

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like you know same year that
never mind came out and you know

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sort of that whole and being an
Olympian Seattle kind of helps

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solidify all that stuff for me.
So this is you know when I said

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in the intro one of my favorite
films it it really truly is one

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of my favorite films and I
appreciate that.

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A lot of that is nostalgia for
my you know team that I so don't

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I don't know I'm not unself
aware of that nostalgia.

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But yeah, man, I that's why I'm
really glad.

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You know, we could just chit
chat about this movie and sort

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of yes.
Look, it's going to be the first

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episode of the series.
I feel like it's a good

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introduction to what's to come
for the rest of the series and

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Zach's whiskey quarter.
No, I love it.

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I love that you had picked
something that's kind of just

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light hearted and fun that we
can kind of, yeah, enjoy and

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talk about, Yeah.
I mean, it was a bit of a slog

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if we were, you know, doing a
Holocaust movie or something,

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right?
Yeah.

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Whiskey and Auschwitz.
Right, Right.

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Welcome to Friday night.
Great, now.

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But so, you know, rewatching is
fresh as an adult.

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Like, do you What's your
thoughts on this film?

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Thumbs up, thumbs down.
I'd say thumbs up, definitely

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for, but for such different
reasons than the things that I

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liked it for as a kid.
I think the the things that I

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liked as a kid were, you know,
you know, babes and schwing and

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I think sort of like funny, you
know, references, you know,

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that, as you said, really land
with you when you're in that

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kind of teenage phase.
What really struck me this time

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was like how much more And there
were like overt references to

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it, right.
How much more.

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It is very much a film about,
you know, relationships and, you

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know, authenticity to oneself
and one's sort of true 'cause

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and authenticity to the people
who were around you.

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I was really struck by that in
the relationship between Wayne

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and Garth, but then also just
between like you know some some

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off lines from, you know, sort
of lesser characters that come

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out throughout the movie.
And I felt that there were some

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really good character arcs even
for some of the minor

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characters.
So that was, yeah, really fun to

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revisit for that reason.
Yeah, it's, you know, it's kind

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of, it's kind of an amazing
pedigree as well.

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Like obviously, you know, Lord
Michaels and Mike Byers are sort

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of the heart from the SNL side.
But you know, it was COVID by

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Bonnie and Terry Turner who went
on to do like 30 Rock From the

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Sun in That 70s Show, which you
know is pretty much up there at

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Pantheon of 90 sitcoms.
And of course it's directed by

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Philip.
Sorry, another piece of Ferris

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who's we've done some really
amazing, amazing work.

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And so there's just this kind of
depth to it that I don't really

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think any other SNL movie quite
has because it goes so far

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beyond just the sketch and
really builds, like you said,

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this whole world where all like
there are side characters that

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truly do have like cool arcs and
really funny like this.

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This movie somehow has that
magic trick where Jaime gets

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funnier every time you watch it
because you notice some stuff

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and you notice the intricacy a
bit more.

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Yeah.
But yeah, it's sort of, you

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know, it's it's up there For me.
It's also just the the secondary

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task outside of waiting Garth,
Mike Myers and Dana Carvey.

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Rob Lowe is phenomenal in this.
That's.

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So good.
Yeah, he's such a.

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Yeah, he's he's like the perfect
foil, right?

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Yeah.
And even just thinking about

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his, his sort of aesthetic,
right he just how, how

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juxtaposed it is to Wayne and
Garth and how, yeah, like the

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very slick hair and stuff like
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Like almost like Armani Baggy.
Like a little bit baggy but

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still tailored and very like you
know Quat and and yeah yeah

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right.
And it's like he is, he's he's

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so good at at being at at at
leaning into that world I think.

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You know, it's just like, not to
get too far ahead of ourselves,

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but one of the my favorite jokes
and any movie is so subtle.

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But what?
He's ordering Chinese food and

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just pops straight into
Cantonese.

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And yeah, her Instantia Carrera
is like your accent feels a

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little more like Kowloon Bay
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Bay.
Such a perfect like, just

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simple, subtle joke but.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, just that he's so well by
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Yeah, yeah, he does.
He, he leans into it so well.

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And then I again, I love, I love
the very sort of quick

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trajectory from sort of Garth
realizing when he's like, I

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don't think Benjamin very much
like us, Wayne.

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And you know it's it very
quickly obviously escalates into

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one of my favorite lines which
is Garg saying if he was an ice

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cream flavour it would be
pralines and Dick.

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I thought that was that.
That made me laugh so hard for

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some reason I was like you think
he's going to say like vanilla

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or something like you use bland
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That's yeah, no it was Pralines
and Dick.

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I was like, that is hysterical.
Amazing.

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Joke.
What's funny?

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Sounds like so many went off
lines like that, yeah?

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But what's funny is like Rob
Lowe is technically just doing

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his job.
Like he's not evil, evil, you

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know, like he's not whirling his
mustache or anything.

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It's more he's just kind of
like, yeah, he's an exec and

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he's a Dick, but also he's got
to make this show work for his

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livelihood, right?
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It's also sort of interesting
watching this again because like

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like there is this aspect to
waiting guards of sort of

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Arrested Development that I kind
of always attributed to it

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earlier on.
Now looking back, it's like

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they're not really at risk.
They're not.

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They're fully formed adults and
they know exactly who they are.

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Yeah, yeah.
And that's.

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Go ahead.
Sorry.

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I was just going to say I love
that you say that because I

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think you're absolutely right,
man.

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Like that was something that
struck me so much too.

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Was that it?
It's so tempting just to make

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those assumptions about about
who they are as characters and

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you know it it seems as though
it's setting them up to be that

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and then you actually get these
moments where they like, you

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know are really you know.
And what struck me is whenever

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Wayne is talking to Cassandra
and is like and and he's learned

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Cantonese and he's trying to
communicate to her and be

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romantic and like and they're
like he's, he's, he's like

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quoting here Cagard.
And like you know you don't you

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don't get the sense that he's
just trying to be smooth, right.

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It's like he's actually being
very authentic and like you know

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we're seeing a side of them that
is it's just, you know it's just

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like a sort of different layer
to the onion.

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And it's like yeah, you know he
loves you know rock and parties

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and like the goofy shit.
But then he's also like, you

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know, actually interested in,
you know, substantive

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conversation and like relating
to people and meeting them where

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they're at.
And I I found that really

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endearing, I think, to both of
them as characters, both Lane

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and Garth.
Absolutely.

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And also, and this is sort of
the genius of the film with

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larity, with pure absurdity,
like there are just, Oh yes,

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absurd comedic beats in this
film.

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And it works with a balance
where it's really, I kind of

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attributed that to like the
Steve Martin of an all where

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it's like you have this like
said Kierkegaard, you have these

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like real emotions and real
character beats and you know

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there's notable growth and
there's depths.

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But then it's also like, you
know, they they they have a

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gratuitous sex scene and it
literally plays a gratuitous sex

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scene and it and it still works
or you know, we'll get to the

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the ending.
But yeah, let's just sort of

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walk through here and just we're
not, we're not going to do beat

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by beat people.
We're just going to go over the

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main plot and you know, sort of
things we love about it and then

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we'll get to the whiskey soon
enough, don't worry.

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So, you know, the film really
does kind of pick up on just

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like the sketch because the
sketch is obviously very

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isolated to the basement.
They've had huge people come in

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like Tom Hanks and Aerosmith and
all that.

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But I do love the sort of whole,
I guess, opening set piece where

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you different, you're brought
into their world and you know,

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they they come out of the
basement and Wayne is giving you

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those be he's doing narration,
but he's talking to the camera,

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you know?
You know, breaking the 4th.

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Wall as opposed to just
narration over while they do

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stuff.
I like that because well maybe

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it feels a little early 90s to
do that, but it it feels

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authentic to who they are.
And he would be talking to

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camera like that kind of reminds
me in Letterkenny where they

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just randomly talk to camera and
narrate to which they do very

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rarely but and then of course I
think the big moment of the the

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first act is them in the car
picking up their buses to go

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party.
And I think it's become such an

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iconic scene of Sam, what what
is it a little like?

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What's the that car like?
Not a hermit, but something like

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that.
Yeah, it's almost.

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I know.
I thought it was a Pinto.

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I don't think it is a Pinto.
Right, that's all those shit

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cars from the 70s.
Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah, but it's just tricked.
Out right the the Mirth mobile,

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I call it right.
Yeah, the Mirth.

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Mobile.
Yeah, what?

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My one of my.
Favorite things about that scene

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that I that I totally overlooked
previously and just picked it up

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this time was I think his name
was like Phillip or something.

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But like their friend who's just
absolutely shit faced and they

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go and pick him up.
And you know like like Wayne has

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to promise Garth that he's not
going to hurl.

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And then they get him in the car
and they're doing the bohemian

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Rhapsody thing and he's he's
like slouched over drunk and

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like looks like he's can't even
keep his eyes open.

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And then you know there are a
couple of cutaways and then it

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goes back to them singing
Bohemian Rhapsody and he's like

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fully into Bohemian Rhapsody.
Yeah.

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Oh my God, It's so good because
it's just such a it's such a

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funny switch that's turned on
you.

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It's like.
It's such a true moment, though,

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where you're, like, really
drunk, but then you, like, get

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into something suddenly rally.
Yeah, yeah.

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You're rally.
Yep.

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Yep, exactly.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
It's also interesting like we're

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this isn't about this isn't a
podcast about trivia and stuff,

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but evidently there is such a
massive fight about which song

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to use in that scene that, like,
Myers threatened to quit picture

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entirely unless they let him use
Bohemian Rhapsody.

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No.
Kidding.

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And because he, he thought it
would be true to them to sort of

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have that reverence for huge
stadium rock in the 70s.

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We'll see where they love Alice
Cooper, they love Aris, they

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love those huge 70s stadium rock
bands.

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And evidently the studio really
wanted just like something from

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Guns N' Roses, something you
know, modern that the kids would

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listen to.
And he's like, listen, man,

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we're not kids, we're adults.
And and I think that's valid

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because then because that scene
has become iconic and parodied

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and in in it technically helped
bring Queen back in the 90s.

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There's a couple books, reports
things written where Queen had

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sort of faded away entirely in
the late 80s.

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And this song helped like their
record sales skyrocket again,

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which I always find interesting.
But yeah, so they do this

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wonderful montage of singing the
Bohemian Rhapsody.

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You see all of Aurora, IL and
the suburbs of Chicago.

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You get a nice little montage
tour there.

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Stop and meet your cop.
They give them shit.

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You cop laps them off, You know?
You smell, You smell bacon.

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I definitely smell a pork
product of some kind.

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Such.
Yeah.

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Such Genex.
Crunchy.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I liked one of my, again, just

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like stupid little things that
made me laugh is that moment.

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And there are a few other
moments like this where they

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make it.
One of them will make a joke

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like that and then they like,
laugh, but like inaudibly.

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They just like silently.
Kind of like, you know, like

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it's just so stupid, but it's
just it's it's been deering in

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that way for some reason.
I don't know but.

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Yeah, yeah, it's that.
It's that perfect relationship

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you have with your best friends
where, like everything, sort of

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an inside joke, right?
But the brilliance of this film

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is those inside jokes are
actually funny to everybody,

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right?
Yeah.

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Yeah, in most cases, yeah.
Then we also get the

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introduction to the donut shop
with Ed O'Neill, which, I mean,

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this is Ed O'Neill.
That is like sitcom hype.

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I mean, Married Children is
huge.

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He's starring in movies and he
just gave me those as this bat

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shit, crazy donut shop worker
sitting like I remember cracking

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up in the cinema or in the
theatre when I was like, and way

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in terms of cameras like and he
marks here 24 hours a day.

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Yeah.
And then and it starts talking

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to the camera and Wayne runs.
He's like, hey, me and Garth.

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Right, right.
Yeah.

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Camera.
I'm the only one who can do

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that.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
No, I love how and and the way

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he plays with the dialogue, too,
man.

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It's just like it's he plays it
so straight.

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And you're right.
His dialogue, it's like every

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time we see him in a movie, he's
talking about killing someone

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like very seriously.
And it's it's such a weird shit

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that it's, like, so absurd that
you just have to be like, Oh my

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God, like.
The hell is this guys?

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Feel.
Yeah.

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Kill him at at war.
And you're called, right?

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You kill him at it.
Eat a passion, murderer.

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It's happening.
It's so out of place, it's

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great.
Yeah, it's it's wonderful

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because his commitment is so
fierce.

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It's just it's mesmerizing.
Yeah.

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Then, you know, we meet some
more characters.

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Of course.
Wonderful exchange with Laura

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Flynn Boyle as Wayne's
ex-girlfriend.

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And this, this honestly became
like something we would say for

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years when we get a present we
didn't want because she brings

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him a gun rack as an anniversary
gift.

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Even though they broken up.
Right.

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And anytime we'd get some shitty
gift and be like a gun wreck, I

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do not have a gun.
We're going to necessitate a

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wreck.
Just again, the delivery is just

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so pitch perfect.
I left the whole, the whole what

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is Machita's, Machita's tiger?
The whole scene is just free

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because again, we're on this
sort of like first act journey

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and we're just meeting everybody
still.

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But all the characters are so
well-rounded.

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You know, Loyal's like, I guess
crazy ex-girlfriend, for lack of

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a better term.
And I think it's proper to use

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that because there's a whole TV
show called Crazy ex-girlfriend,

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so that that out of like
character there.

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And from there, of course, we go
on to the big sort of meet cute,

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the big sort of like, you know,
inciting instant for Wayne,

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where we sort of propel on his
journey his love story.

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When they go to a big club in
Chicago, we got a great Chris

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Farley cameo and we meet Crucial
taunt which was it's definitely

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a moment in cinema for 13 year
old Zach.

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I believe that I was like
watching it like yesterday in my

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living room, I was like, God
damn wow, I and I can't remember

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the actress's name, but I was
like, she is just ferociously

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beautiful.
And so yeah, yeah, yeah, just so

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magnetic.
She's, you know, the front

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person and bass player in the
band.

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Unless she said she's pulling
off like Rockstar, Really.

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Well, like you don't for a
second question whether or not

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she deserves to be on that stage
or she's drunk it out or not.

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I can attest him to how
well-rounded but how well acted

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these these characters are.
And you get the, you know, the

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the Kung Fu moment where Wayne
is like shocked into, you know,

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a cheeky 70s love song and
seeing her on stage and.

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Right, right, right.
That whole sort of like moment,

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of course, when she comes off
stage, she walks right to the

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bar next to Wayne, because where
else would she go, right?

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But yeah, then it's sort of like
the the first act sort of ends

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with an after party and we get
more of the characters again.

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You know Laura and Boyle comes
back, falls through a ceiling

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for some crazy reason and you
get Wayne and she got her name

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on Tia Carrera character.
God, what is her name?

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Well Cassandra, yeah Wade and
Cassandra's set up to see each

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other again and you know they're
sort of off to the races.

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We can't Rob Lowe.
We already talked about Rob

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Lowe, but he's it's such a pre
introduction to him as well

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because he's sitting in like his
bed in a condo and it's the most

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90s yuppie thing ever.
And you know he's got a girl

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with him and he's like flipping
through TV literally fishing for

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something to to work on.
Like he's he's ignoring this

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woman in his bed to find work.
On television.

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Which I think is a very
interesting way to introduce a

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character where he's that like
focused.

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Right.
It's so funny that you say that.

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I didn't, I didn't sort of like
retroactively put those two

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pieces together.
But yeah, that's you're right.

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That is, absolutely.
Once we establish that he's ATV

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producer, it's like, yeah, he's
totally scouting, right?

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Like, yes, this woman in bed
next to him.

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He's just kind of flipping
channels, like very serious,

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very intent.
And I think it's, it's the

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girlfriend, right, who kind of
stops him on the show.

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And he's like, oh, this show's
great.

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And he like, doesn't get it
whatsoever.

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He's like, like, you know,
whatever these idiots doing,

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basically.
It's just it's kind of lost on

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him.
Yeah, but she's laughing and she

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like like it's a bad thing.
It's like, well, there's an

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audience for this.
Young people get it.

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It's like the near.
I don't have to get it, but I I

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get that people get it.
All right.

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So then, yeah, Benjamin, Wayne
and Garth meet at a ridiculous

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tiki bar with ridiculous
cocktail, and this was another

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thing that this was funny in
1992.

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Be how excited they get over
$5000, both of them before

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taxes.
He's he's absurd.

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Literally dancing and singing.
We've got $5000 for a solid

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minute.
Well, I think it's just like

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it's just minutes before they
have to like take the car the

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the Mirth mobile to the shop and
I hate the bill was like $40 or

446
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,760
something and they're like $40
and that like scrounge together

447
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,440
cushion chain basically to like
come up with 40 bucks.

448
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,080
So yeah, no, but.
But you're right.

449
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,320
I I absolutely.
Take your point.

450
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,000
But they're literally dancing in
the street about like 5000

451
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,480
bucks.
But that that whole scene too,

452
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,600
where Rob Lowe is pitching them
on the contract and just how

453
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,920
he's sort of playing it back of
like, you know, when they're

454
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,920
like, well, you know, can we
take a look at the contract?

455
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,520
We're kind of between lawyers
right now.

456
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,800
But you know, if I could just
have our lawyer look at it and

457
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,120
he's like, oh, sure, sure, sure.
You know, that's that's that's

458
00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:34,480
perfectly fine.
I just, you know, figured guys

459
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,080
like you, you know, you're not
really interested in money.

460
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,440
I can just tear up these checks
right now, you know, for $5000

461
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,720
and then they're like, whoa,
whoa, whoa, well, you know,

462
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,320
let's let's back it up just a
little bit.

463
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,880
And of course then they sign
their lives away to to corporate

464
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,200
America and you know obviously
don't read the fine print, but

465
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,760
just the way that that plays
out.

466
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:58,160
I I was so fun and so sort of
indicative of of how different

467
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,840
their characters are, right.
And how perfectly Rob Lowe plays

468
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,440
it, yeah.
Absolutely.

469
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,400
Yeah.
And I look so that he goes on a

470
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,840
goes on a date with Cassandra X
right where he's got the, he's

471
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,720
got the licorice feel in the
car.

472
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,560
He's like oh we need to get
that.

473
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,240
He's like when we got the money,
right.

474
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,200
So there there is some
childishness there don't get me

475
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,040
wrong.
Yeah, yeah.

476
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,720
But and then he buys a Strat and
there's again this whole scene

477
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:32,000
in the music's child.
It's just it's just gold the

478
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,760
whole way through from from him
from Cassandra like lusting

479
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,320
after the Strat, the light
Strat.

480
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,400
And you know, it's the Jimi
Hendrix sort of Strat with the

481
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,400
Lamy bar and him just playing
the 1st Court and the guy

482
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,400
running over and stopping and
pointing to no stairway to

483
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,200
heaven.
No stairway to heaven.

484
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,720
And then a whole massive drum
solo from Dana Garvey.

485
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:59,720
You know, Garth, thank you.
At the end, he didn't really do

486
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,480
anything.
And then we're back with

487
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,400
Benjamin.
They're at his condo on the

488
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,400
whichever floor.
He's stalking Cantonese and

489
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:12,000
ordering food and Pepsi Cola and
Mountain Dew and and and yeah,

490
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,760
you were doing that joke.
He's like Praline and Dick.

491
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,440
But the kid who knows exactly
how to he knows exactly how to

492
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,040
manipulate them because he had
all access passes for Alice

493
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,680
Cooper.
And they are, they're completely

494
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,680
went over again, like all that.
We're between lawyers and

495
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,280
they're just, there you go,
they're done.

496
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,240
They're good.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

497
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,080
You're right.
It's like, he's so smooth and

498
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,640
knows with everybody like
exactly what buttons to push,

499
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,320
right.
It's just yeah.

500
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,120
Yeah.
And that's that's sort of like

501
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,840
what's interesting because
they're so easy to manipulate in

502
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,280
these beans and then when
they're like standing in, which

503
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,360
makes it so much more powerful
when they do stand up for

504
00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:01,640
themselves and, you know, on the
show.

505
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,800
But yeah, they go see Alice
Cooper, which is, you know, they

506
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,960
actually have a whole scene from
the show and there's the

507
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,280
infamous we're not worthy seeing
Dallas.

508
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:17,520
And back another great Alice
Cooper explains Milwaukee Like

509
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,840
Milwaukee Native American words,
yeah.

510
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,000
He's like very like erudite and
like Professor Lee.

511
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,680
And yeah, he's like explaining
all of these sort of like, you

512
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,120
know, tribal dynamics of Native
Americans of the region and

513
00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:31,480
stuff.
And yeah, it's it's pretty

514
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,120
wonderful.
Yeah, socialism and how it

515
00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:38,360
applied.
And yeah, it's just, it's a

516
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,600
wildly funny turn my Alice
Cooper there.

517
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,520
And of course, then we're sort
of like get into the I did the

518
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:50,360
meet, you know, the conflict of
the film because Wayne's World

519
00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:53,680
is being broadcast from a studio
and it's going to be a real

520
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,160
show.
They have sponsors, Noah

521
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,920
Vanderhoff, which is played by
Brian Royal Murphy, you know,

522
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:03,880
who's beautifully famous SNL,
Bill Murray's brother, you know,

523
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,640
this mass community career
coming in, sort of doing his

524
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:16,160
thing with this very kind of
happy to be their wife who's

525
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,600
very excited about everything.
Yeah.

526
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,520
Yeah, there's just so many
jokes.

527
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,000
There's just so many jokes in
this set piece.

528
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,320
I mean, yeah, I trust us.
I think I think my favorite part

529
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,800
of this is and I can't I I maybe
I'm getting a little bit ahead

530
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:37,000
of myself here where Rob Lowe is
sort of trying to explain the

531
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,160
sort of corporatization of the
show and rationalize why certain

532
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,280
things have been done and why
the show is changing.

533
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,960
Because Wayne obviously is
seeing, you know, these marked

534
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,560
changes in the aesthetic and
the, you know, the sponsorships

535
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:56,320
and and he says something like,
what is it?

536
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,400
Something about like, you know,
I will not bow to our corporate

537
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,560
overlords or something like
that.

538
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,120
He has a box of Pizza Hut and
he's like holding the slice of

539
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,720
like poses with it.
And then it's just like a series

540
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,240
of those where it's, you know,
like, you know, for the next

541
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,160
generation, we we, you know, we
have to preserve our enemy hold

542
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,480
of a can of peptics.
It's like and what a generation

543
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,720
it is, you know, like it's just
that series of and it's one of

544
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,120
those things too, where it's
almost like they do it to the

545
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,520
point where it's not funny and
then it becomes funny again

546
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,360
because it's like 5 different
bits like that right in a row.

547
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,400
But that's just and then and
then Garth is decked out in

548
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:30,720
rebuy.
It's just like it's just so

549
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,680
goofy and funny.
But I think it exactly.

550
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,440
Yeah.
But I also felt like too that

551
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,360
was a really like kind of A and
I hope I'm not reading too far

552
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,400
into it, but I was like thinking
about the timing of this and you

553
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,240
know, 1992 and you know we're
coming out of like the Reagan

554
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,960
years and the the late Bush
senior years and just the

555
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,960
general sort of you know, I I
think broad reaching

556
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,800
corporatization of a lot of
aspects of American light,

557
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,000
right.
Absolutely.

558
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,360
And and I was like, wow, you
know, this is, you know, pretty

559
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,000
early for these kind of, you
know, sort of salient points

560
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,960
about, you know, compromising
artistic integrity and

561
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,400
individuality, you know, for the
sake of like a corporate

562
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,760
sponsor, you know, and and I
know that others were doing it

563
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,080
at that time.
But it it was again, it gave

564
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,240
some heart and some backbone to
the movie, I thought.

565
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,720
Absolutely.
And this is part of that sort of

566
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,720
Gen.
X ethos of like you never sell

567
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,000
out like never, you know, you
never go corporate no matter

568
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,360
what.
But then it's.

569
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,400
But the way they sort of
presented is it is yeah.

570
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,320
Like you know, without that
there, it's just so, so great.

571
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,480
And you know like I said, this
whole sequence, there's just so

572
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,960
much great stuff from, you know
their their true counting down

573
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,640
and if you like not
understanding like to not be

574
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,720
silent when they're doing the
two in one silently.

575
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,720
You know, just little jokes like
that that are, you know this

576
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:04,640
little character beats to, you
know I'm doing the the the blue

577
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,280
screen to the different places
where they end up in Delaware

578
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,280
and that's the hi, we're in
Delaware.

579
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,800
That's was another thing that
just became so prevalent in pop

580
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,360
culture for so long of course.
But yeah, it's just such a, it's

581
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,720
just a really fun part of the
the the movie where you kind of

582
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,320
you get into the meet and you
start to see them, like actually

583
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,240
they do start to kind of come
out of their shells a little bit

584
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,640
and have to play, you know,
stand up for themselves.

585
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,200
You see, you know, Garth with
his gadgets, I mean, he sort of

586
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,880
skipped over it at the club
before.

587
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,760
He's a gadget guy.
Then he's like, my hand comes to

588
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,880
life and he starts banging out
of those Benjamins trying to

589
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,000
explain how things are going to
work and.

590
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:56,560
Right, right.
But yeah, it's just, again, it's

591
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,720
just a fun sequence where you
kind of get them.

592
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,040
They're fish out of water, but
they're coming in their own and

593
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,240
meeting everybody and lot of fun
stuff going on in a big set.

594
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,960
And this is also we're we're
getting to the point too, right,

595
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,640
where Mr. Vanderhoff right is at
the presenting sponsor and he's

596
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,640
supposed to come on for the
interview and Wayne is like

597
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,120
really pissed off about it.
And then he holds up the he's

598
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,080
holding up those cue cards and
the the kind of like beat liquor

599
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,320
like Mr. Smithers ask character.
I think his name is Russell.

600
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,320
He's like, he's like.
Yeah, yeah.

601
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,040
Russell's great.
And he's like, he's like, oh,

602
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,720
great.
He's using the cue cards.

603
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,440
And then we quickly realized
that Wayne has written, like

604
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:37,000
these really deeply offensive
messages and, like vulgar

605
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,800
messages about Mr. Vanderhoff.
And my favorite was and it, you

606
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,400
know, it's like they're sitting
directly next to each other and

607
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,920
Wayne is asking him these
questions about his arcade, just

608
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:52,080
like, So what's the difference
between Miss Pac-Man and Miss

609
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,480
Pac-Man?
And meanwhile he's holding this

610
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,280
sign that that the guy can't see
that says my favorite one was

611
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,640
this guy blows goats, I have
fruit.

612
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,920
I.
Have fruit.

613
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,200
Oh, it's so.
It's just so funny and like

614
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,200
vulgar and goofy and.
But yeah, him getting sort of

615
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,160
the best of the corporate
sponsor is is like a fun,

616
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,840
triumphant moment and kind of
like a pivotal moment right in

617
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,000
Oh yeah, how how the movie
progresses, thought wise.

618
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,040
Yeah, because, I mean, it's him
standing up for himself in his

619
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,400
sort of his artistic integrity
and like, yeah, I'll do your

620
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,480
corporate sponsor bullshit, but
I'm going to do it my way.

621
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,240
And of course that sort of
creates A rift between Garth and

622
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,120
and Wayne.
And they have their fight on top

623
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,520
of the car waiting for the
plane.

624
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,040
The plane goes over at just the
right time.

625
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,160
So you don't hear you know Garth
say all the bad naughty words.

626
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,520
Right, right, right.
But then also Benjamin's already

627
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,720
moved in on Cassandra and
they're doing music video

628
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:57,480
together with and again,
everyone listening we're we're

629
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,520
we're not going beat by beat,
just sort of going through the

630
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,520
the broad brush strokes.
But yeah, it's funny because

631
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,000
like this is where like the meat
of the movie really is.

632
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,840
And that, you know, he goes back
to Cassandra's apartment and

633
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:17,400
she's not there and it's, you
know, he, he realizes that, you

634
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,360
know, he's he does sort of have
to take responsibility for his

635
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,920
actions.
But his actions were right.

636
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,840
Like he wasn't wrong.
But it's like things just

637
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,960
because you're not wrong doesn't
mean things don't fall apart.

638
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:31,760
It's sort of how it feels,
right, like.

639
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,159
Yeah, no, I think so.
And I think, yeah, this is

640
00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:37,600
definitely a moment where both
of the sort of primary

641
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:43,120
relationships that he's had and
established throughout the film

642
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,239
are really sort of called into
question, right, both with

643
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,920
Cassandra and Garth.
And it's.

644
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,199
And you're right, it's like kind
of a moment wherein he has to

645
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:52,480
make a decision.
And even though even though his

646
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,760
actions were not wrong, he was
acting by his own values and

647
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,120
standards, he's still in some
ways and sort of let the people

648
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,120
around him down and he has to
sort of compromise on those

649
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,520
things in a way.
Yeah.

650
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,720
And he's kind of like because
when he goes to the crucial part

651
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:09,080
of the shoot with Saturn and
Benjamin's there and she's

652
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,440
trying to hold stupid Snake and
it's too heavy, you know, the

653
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,440
the lull looks ridiculous
because right.

654
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,800
Benjamin's ATV producer, not a
music producer, you know, it's

655
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,680
obviously, it's like, you know,
he's pretending that, you know

656
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,000
he's the boss of everything.
But you know, right, right.

657
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,800
And that's he's the that's great
too because she's like

658
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:28,800
simultaneously trying to play
the bass and hold this like

659
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,200
massive Python.
Then it's like not working.

660
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,840
And she he's just like
physically frustrated juggling

661
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,120
these two things pretty good.
And.

662
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,640
You know, do we get this sort of
like what Wayne thinks is a

663
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,520
heartfelt scene where they
literally flash on the screen

664
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,360
Oscar bait.
Right, Right.

665
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,760
And crying, saying I never
learned to read and like, dude,

666
00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:54,160
is that.
Of course that's not true.

667
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,000
She picks up like, she's like,
dude, like if you're acting like

668
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,880
a little asshole and right,
you're not thinking of anyone

669
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,160
else but yourself, you know,
it's her big break too.

670
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,440
I mean it it does ring false
because of who Benjamin is, but

671
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,080
as far as she knows, like he's
kind of on the up and up.

672
00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:19,200
Yeah, until of course, he's not.
The whole third act of this film

673
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,040
is like, it's sort of like
almost a heist.

674
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,040
Yeah.
The film becomes in size where

675
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,120
they're trying to get this
regular producer that Chris

676
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:32,680
Harley told them about randomly
that you that you didn't even

677
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,840
really pay attention to.
But it comes back perfect plan

678
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:40,840
pay off of Frankie Sharp records
and they know his limousine is

679
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,280
going through a certain place
and they know that he watches

680
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,000
satellite TV in his limo because
he doesn't fly or whatever.

681
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,640
And so Garth gets Wayne, or
Wayne gets Garth back on the

682
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,120
sign because Garth, you know,
can do technology and hardware

683
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,080
and stuff like that.
And they want to get Cassandra

684
00:36:57,240 --> 00:37:00,120
to the original basement studio
of Wayne's World.

685
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,480
And after do an audition for
Frankie Sharp that they're going

686
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,360
to beam straight to his
limousine.

687
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,840
And even Russell redeems himself
who's, you know, the the the

688
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,600
Miss or the Smithers to
Benjamin, you know, it's kind of

689
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,440
a sweet scene where they like
hug it out and you know, he

690
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,880
becomes part of the crew
properly, right?

691
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,720
And going back to your original
point, like there's actual arcs

692
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:31,080
for secondary and tertiary
characters in this, you know, in

693
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,480
that, you know, Russell really
does help him out and sort of

694
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,120
like he's kind of a arguable guy
because he knows what the hell

695
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,520
he's doing, right.
He has a bit of a Cody.

696
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,840
You're right.
I I love that moment.

697
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,120
I I.
That was just such a fun,

698
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:47,280
wholesome kind of moment, you
know, whenever Easter joins the

699
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,640
crew and helps them out.
Yeah.

700
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,840
And so like again, there's sort
of like the heist being, you

701
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,400
know, getting the satellite
signal to Sharp's limo.

702
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,000
You know, you get this sort of
like big triumphant moment where

703
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,320
you know, crucial time plays in
the studio and you know, you see

704
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,120
the sharp limousine turn around.
You know, and you know,

705
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,720
obviously we're going to spoil
this 31 year old movie because

706
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,680
it's 31 years old.
And the end of this film, to me

707
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,360
is brilliant because there's so
few films that do this, but they

708
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,400
lutely fail.
Like Sharp is like, yeah, you're

709
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,520
not there yet, You're not ready.
And you know, of course Santa's

710
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,560
like Wayne.
You ruined my career and

711
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,360
Benjamin's there sort of
laughing and everyone's all

712
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:40,800
bummed out.
And just like out of this was, I

713
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,040
thought, brilliant when I was
watching it out of nowhere.

714
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,560
Well, first of all, like, Stacey
comes in and reveals she's

715
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,240
pregnant and like the fire
stars, burns the house down.

716
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:52,880
It's just all disaster.
It's a disaster.

717
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,280
So we're going to Garth come
back and they're like, why don't

718
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,320
we do a scooby-doo ending?
And then it goes and they have a

719
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,320
completely different ending to
the movie.

720
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,480
Is scooby-doo on masked as an
event Withers?

721
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,240
Eventually what?
Yeah, it's so goofy.

722
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:18,920
And yeah, there that.
Moment and then but it is right.

723
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,520
It is it's jarring because when
you first see like the

724
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,520
limousine, like peeling out and
you turning to go back and

725
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,760
you're like, Oh yeah, of course.
Like this is the big moment

726
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,560
where she gets signed and then
we're going to just come back

727
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,800
and be like, yeah, it's you're
not there.

728
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,400
It's it's not it is is really
jarring.

729
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,080
So I agree that.
Yeah, it came out of no or it

730
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,360
didn't come out of nowhere.
It's earned, but it's also

731
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,840
earned in like that's kind of
reality and that's like, you

732
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,480
know, I mean it goes completely
off the rails after.

733
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,040
That but still, right?
Yeah.

734
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,120
And then the But then the pacing
of it is really fun, right?

735
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,680
Because we get this could be do
ending.

736
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,520
We get the the happy ending, the
mega happy ending.

737
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,320
Yeah.
Yeah, Mega happy.

738
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,440
Exactly.
Right.

739
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:03,560
It's funny because I was a huge
fan of Clue growing up and that

740
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,080
that had the three endings as
well.

741
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,800
So I was just like the 2nd that
I was like, oh, they're doing

742
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,840
the Clue thing and I.
Can't recall any other film in

743
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,080
that time frame doing that.
And it was sort of like such a

744
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,360
like aha moment where somebody
else had the balls to do this

745
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,200
right.
Whether you, you know, whether

746
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,720
you like the Scooby-doo ending
or the make a happy ending or

747
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:28,840
not, it's still like that took
balls to do like yeah, huge big

748
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,480
budget SNL movie and they're
like, you know what, No, these

749
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,000
first ending going to be them
fail.

750
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,120
But we're going to do 3 endings
and they're all going to be

751
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,680
equally ludicrous.
Right.

752
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:38,200
Right.
Right.

753
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,680
I I thought, oh, I I thought
it'd be.

754
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,440
Well, I didn't pick up on it
when I first watched this years

755
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,640
ago, but when I was watching it
just last night, I thought I

756
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,560
said the same thing.
I was like it's fucking clue.

757
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,040
It's it's the Clue movie at the
end where it's like different

758
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,920
end and it it's just like I was
so tickled.

759
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,400
By that and the fact that the
middle one is literally a

760
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:58,880
Scooby-doo ending, I mean, come
on.

761
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,760
Right, right, right.
And it's kind of, it's kind of

762
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,600
funny, like, without getting
into Wayne's World too.

763
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,920
But like, the happy ending is
the real ending at the end of

764
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,640
the day.
Like, you know, Cassandra does

765
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,480
get signed.
She, you know, can launch her

766
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:19,520
relationship with Wayne Arcus
ends up with the hot girl from

767
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,640
the donut shop that he was
fantasizing over.

768
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,880
And, you know, we, we didn't say
it before, but there's this

769
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,160
brilliant Jimi Hendrix scene
where Garth is like dancing to

770
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,560
this beautiful blonde girl with
her, you know, her blowing in

771
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,720
the wind.
That's, you know, very stylized

772
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:34,560
but works just kind of perfectly
for him.

773
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,960
And the best part is,
Penchantman comes in and he's

774
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,240
like, you know, money looks
great, but that's not

775
00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:45,040
everything.
It doesn't bring happiness.

776
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,000
Yeah, Ridiculously Sapri.
So it works.

777
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,800
It works because you have that
scooby-doo ending right before.

778
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:57,520
That's so absurd that it just
kind of, it makes it all work.

779
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,280
And that's the film right there.
And it's, you know, 90 minutes

780
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,600
of solid gold.
Yes.

781
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,000
And yeah, I I agree.
It's so it and the length of it

782
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,520
too.
I mean, it just keeps the pace

783
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,480
so tight.
And you know, there are moments

784
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,800
that are like, you know, pretty
clearly improvised or like, you

785
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,240
know, jokes that are just kind
of put in like there's this

786
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:24,440
random or Shirley bit that like,
but it's still, it still feels

787
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:25,720
tightly paint, you know what I
mean?

788
00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:27,640
Like it just, it it doesn't
really.

789
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,640
There's no point where.
There's fat or it?

790
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,000
Feels like it's lagging.
Exactly like the fact that in a

791
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,560
90 minute film they could do
almost a full on recreation of

792
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,080
the Laverne and Charlie opening
credits scene, right?

793
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,680
And it didn't feel superfluous.
Right, right, right.

794
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,520
That's to me, that's talent
filmmaking right there in the

795
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,080
Yeah, I was also reading right,
though we didn't mention that

796
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,680
much.
But that scene where Garth

797
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,200
dances to Foxy Lady towards the
beautiful blonde in the donut

798
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,080
shop, like they had to do that
scene several times because it

799
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,480
just wasn't pacing right where
it wouldn't work.

800
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,800
Like his Scarth is a little bit
of an innocent, you know, where

801
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,920
he's like, no, he's he's not a,
you know, he's a fully rounded

802
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,360
character and he's, you know,
obviously a genius with hardware

803
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,520
and software and stuff like
that.

804
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,200
But he's just like a a nice
quiet guy.

805
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,120
And so, like, they had to
reshoot that scene a lot to sort

806
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:26,040
of like get that character
moment just right where he was

807
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,880
still that like nice white guy
without being too pervy,

808
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,840
basically.
Because when you watch that,

809
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,800
like the way it ends as well
with him getting sort of like

810
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,960
shot back and hits a sad like
shot back to reality, you know,

811
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,680
it makes scenes like that work
well because they were willing

812
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,960
to work, work those scenes over
and over again.

813
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,680
They were just right as opposed
to like, oh, we got to get this

814
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,280
done.
So let's get it done.

815
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,920
Yeah, yeah.
Which is crazy to hear too,

816
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,240
because as I was like
researching for this, it was

817
00:43:56,240 --> 00:44:00,120
shot in like just a little over
a month I think, right?

818
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,040
It was like like 35 days or
something.

819
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,200
I think they took to shoot this
movie, which sounded like crazy,

820
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,880
a crazy short period of time for
like a, you know, big movie.

821
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,360
Really right.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

822
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,240
I mean, it's a pretty big $20
million SNL Paramount Pictures

823
00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:18,160
movie.
You know it's not.

824
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,520
It's not some indie film.
Right, right, right.

825
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,800
And it also especially Mike
Myers and Dana Kari, but also we

826
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,880
mentioned, you know, Ed O'Neill,
like these people were at like

827
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,120
the heights of their career,
right?

828
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,320
I mean Rob Lowe, of course, Brat
Pack days, but you know Brian

829
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,200
Dole Murray, you know he's an
old pro, but it was like brash

830
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:43,080
heights of their kind of comedic
powers and really shines through

831
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:48,880
and just the ability where it's
word this correctly, but it's

832
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:53,640
like it's not rushed but there's
no fat at all.

833
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,800
And even even like the the
stupid throw Ray jokes, like

834
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,360
Robert Packard showing up as the
T1000 looking for John Connor,

835
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,920
whereas Wade, he's racing to
Cassandra holds up because that

836
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,600
film, Terminator Two, is iconic.
It's time, right?

837
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,560
And so even that cameo, which is
probably the most 92 thing ever,

838
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,520
still holds up.
It still lands.

839
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:18,600
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree.

840
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,200
Yeah.
And so it's kind of funny how

841
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,000
well, this for me anyway.
How well this film does hold up.

842
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,640
Yeah, I I agree.
It it holds up so much better

843
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,880
than I had expected it to, even.
And it's just fun, right?

844
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,160
It, it it, there's something
about it that's still

845
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,880
spontaneous, even though it is,
as we said, a big movie.

846
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,760
It's, you know, big stars
relatively, you know, big

847
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,720
budget.
It's like it's still sort of

848
00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:52,760
feels like just dudes having
fun, like you know and it's it

849
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,560
it it feels organic I guess in a
way that I I think movies felt

850
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:01,400
like during this time period and
and don't necessarily feel to me

851
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,440
now if that makes sense.
Yeah.

852
00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:06,880
Or at least not movies of this
scale, right?

853
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,760
Right.
And also, I mean let's let's be

854
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,760
honest, there are a lot of
movies from this era, especially

855
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,040
comedies.
There is so much cringe in just

856
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,400
jokes they chose and the the
parodies they chose that you

857
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:24,080
know that it is the time.
There's nothing, really nothing

858
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,000
I found like cringy about any of
the the comedy.

859
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:32,080
Like there's no, you know, as an
overused term, but, you know,

860
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,560
there's no punching down.
There's no sort of like, oh

861
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,280
really?
You know, it's really like just

862
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,880
timeless sort of comedy.
Oh, the car.

863
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:51,040
Merfibil's AMC Pacer, which.
OK, yeah.

864
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,680
OK, that's a randomness car.
That is a super random car.

865
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,120
So you know what?
That's the film.

866
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,440
Let's get into the whiskey and
I'm going to let you take over

867
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,560
here and tell us about the 2023
birthday Burlington Old

868
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,320
Forester.
Absolutely.

869
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,920
Yeah, man.
So this is an expression that is

870
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,800
released once a year by old
Forester September 2nd every

871
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:19,000
year our founder George Gavin
Brown's birthday and it is, it

872
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,240
was actually the first vintage
age statement Durban on the

873
00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:27,840
market back in 2002.
So this is the 23rd release that

874
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,360
we're enjoying this evening.
It's 96 proof.

875
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:36,520
So it's these are proofed year
by year just based on what that

876
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,200
particular year that particular
batch tastes best at, as

877
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,200
determined by our Master
Distiller Chris Morris, our

878
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,160
master X-Men Master Taster
Melissa Rift.

879
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,600
So 96 proof.
This particular one is 12 years

880
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:56,720
old and there's not information.
Some previous years we have had

881
00:47:56,720 --> 00:47:59,240
information about what
warehouses and things like that

882
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:01,720
kept it pretty general this
year.

883
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,720
But like all releases of
Birthday Bourbon, to me this

884
00:48:05,720 --> 00:48:12,200
really gets that Rich Oaky still
has the classic Old Forester

885
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,400
Caramels fruit.
Look it up, some sills on the

886
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:17,680
nose.
Yeah.

887
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,800
You get a little bit of, you
know, a little bit of like red

888
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,920
chili in there, like little oak
spice, but it is, it is vanilla,

889
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,560
velvet and caramel like.
Yeah, that it does.

890
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,840
It has a really decadent now.
It's really rich.

891
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:37,280
It's like if you could smell
silk and feel silk as a snow,

892
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,800
it'd be this snows.
I love that.

893
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,320
Yeah.
Well, cheers.

894
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:42,120
Cheers, man.
Yeah.

895
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:47,960
Thanks for having me on.
And that silkiness delivers on

896
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:52,760
the palate as well with just
this wonderful sort of layer of

897
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:54,960
it's interesting is that vanilla
comes late.

898
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,360
So it's like you get in with
like a little bit of like spiced

899
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,920
apple, a little bit of wood
spice and then that that caramel

900
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,600
comes back and then it kind of
that caramel builds towards like

901
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:10,440
this creamy vanilla mint palate
that gives you this just lush

902
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,440
finish.
Yeah, with the like a little

903
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,840
note of cherry tobacco on the
end, a little motor hair Brandy

904
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,040
on the end, and with that
vanilla creaminess under layer

905
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:24,680
buttercream I love.
Yeah, I I love the creaminess of

906
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,840
this year's release.
That is, that is definitely a

907
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,960
word that I have used to
describe this one.

908
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:36,840
Yeah, it's so classical forester
that that kind of exhale or that

909
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,560
finish with that tobacco note
that you had mentioned.

910
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,160
You know, when we get these
extra aged expressions, it's

911
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,200
just like it's such a treat to
get that extra little bit of,

912
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:54,280
you know, kind of earthy, you
know, tobacco Y leathery that we

913
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,000
get on some of these.
And it really comes through on

914
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,520
this year's release.
To me on that, on that finish,

915
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,640
it's really nice.
And the way back it to a second

916
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:08,120
time, I get a little hint of a
floral note that's kind of maybe

917
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:12,520
like an orange blossom, but it's
it's very faint.

918
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,680
It's sort of like, it's just
like it's the nouns going a

919
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,000
little bit further.
Then you take that sip and you

920
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:23,160
get a little bit more of that
kind of dark spice bark like but

921
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,040
like so like clove buds and al
spice berries and.

922
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,680
Like proper.
You know, cinnamon bark sheets

923
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,760
and things like that.
So it's not brown and it's not

924
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,840
really dry either because you
still have that rich creaminess,

925
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:42,280
but it's quite an eggnog either,
you know what I mean, where they

926
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,360
get that eggnog spice, but it's
it's kind of like in the in the

927
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,720
mid ground there where it's it's
kind of like mold white or hot

928
00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:52,720
apple cider spice you know?
Yeah, yeah, I could see that.

929
00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:55,360
I I definitely got some like
sort of FIG you know some of

930
00:50:55,360 --> 00:51:01,640
that you know Fig date kind of
thing going on which I think

931
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,480
complements then that that mold
spice note that you're talking

932
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,480
about really nicely.
So we kind of have to address

933
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,680
the elephant in the room because
this is Birthday Bourbon.

934
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,200
Yeah.
You know, how do you guys

935
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,920
release this?
And like, how does it go out in

936
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,640
the world?
Yeah, no, let's.

937
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,440
Go try it.
Yeah, man.

938
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,920
No, that's a great question.
So the sort of most public

939
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,000
facing version of the release
that we do currently is the

940
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,560
online lottery leading up to the
release release date, I should

941
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,280
say.
So if you sign up for e-mail

942
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,760
with Old Forrester, you'll be
alerted to when the lottery

943
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,000
opens up.
Obviously it's closed for this

944
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,760
year since we've already passed
the release date, but there will

945
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,520
be a number of bottles held at
the Distillery in downtown

946
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:49,680
Louisville.
And just like any other lottery,

947
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,040
if your name gets picked, you
know your Goldman can come in

948
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,440
and buy a bottle.
So that's kind of the most

949
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,240
viable way.
They're wise.

950
00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:01,320
Always keep an eye.
You know, I I do this.

951
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,200
I'm sure you do this.
Zach and I know some of the

952
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,840
whiskey loving public are sort
of training themselves if

953
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,560
they've not already done so to
do so.

954
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,000
But always standing the back bar
and seeing what you can find

955
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,800
that you know you never know
where you can find a special

956
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,360
bottle on the back bar.
And and this one, I think it's

957
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:23,080
so appropriate because it has a
birthday in the name right.

958
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,360
Right.
Giving you, giving you an excuse

959
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,440
on your birthday.
Just splurge a little bit.

960
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,360
Enjoy a pour of it.
My birthday was last week so I

961
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,880
cracked this one open and yeah
man, it's it's really special

962
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,440
release so.
Yeah, I think that gets lost in

963
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,040
the mix sometimes because you
know those these special

964
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,280
releases like they are very
fleeting, you know?

965
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,560
Yeah, how it is, it's a special
release.

966
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,600
It's not supposed to be
everywhere, but you also

967
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,000
allocate out to, you know bars
and restaurants who have

968
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,840
contracts with Littles worse.
So you will see this in really

969
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,760
good high end bars, really good
high end restaurants, you know,

970
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,680
that have, like you said, look
at that back bar, probably going

971
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:06,720
to see one back bar if you have
a nice whiskey bar in your

972
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:09,280
neighborhood where you might see
one of these.

973
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,640
And again it's right there on
the label, it's a special floor

974
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,640
for a special occasion.
And so, yeah, it's going to cost

975
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,280
a little bit more because
that's, you know, waves and

976
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:26,800
breaks, but it is so unique.
Also, it's unique year to year,

977
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,640
like 2022's Birthday Bourbon,
very different from this.

978
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,880
Like, I'd have to go back to my
notes, but I don't remember that

979
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,440
creaminess coming through quite
as much.

980
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,280
I remember being a little
sharper, maybe a little

981
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,000
grassier.
Again, I'd have to go back to my

982
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,400
notes.
Likewise with the 2021, Like,

983
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,120
there was a difference there,
right?

984
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:50,200
I remember that being a little
more caramel spice or so.

985
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:54,440
There's a lot of fun, I think.
And you know, when you do go and

986
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,720
see this bottle on the back or
ask about the vintage because

987
00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:59,760
they might have one or two or
three and you can kind of taste

988
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,360
them side by side and get a
sense of how much work is being

989
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,600
put into each one of these
releases per year.

990
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,760
You know what Chris and Melissa
did this year with, you know,

991
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,160
with this one is something truly
unique to this vintage.

992
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:18,360
Yeah.
And so again, you know, you

993
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,360
know, I, I know it's hard for
people out there listening when

994
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,600
you know, there's an elite
whiskey where, you know, you can

995
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,640
kind of get frustrated with
accessibility.

996
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,280
But, you know, not everybody
gets to buy a Daytona Rolex

997
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,360
cider, you know, and not
everybody gets to wear, you

998
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,600
know, the real Jordan ones.
And you know, not everybody gets

999
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,560
a Supreme sweatshirt when I want
a Supreme sweatshirt.

1000
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,120
The difference being is you can
find us in bars and restaurants

1001
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,400
and you can get a pour.
Yeah, you know and and it's not

1002
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:49,240
impossible.
And it's yeah, I And to that

1003
00:54:49,240 --> 00:54:51,520
point too it is right.
It's like it's it.

1004
00:54:51,720 --> 00:54:54,480
It is as you said, you know
you're going to pay a little bit

1005
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,160
more than you'd be paying for
another pour but you know

1006
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,880
whiskeys for drinking and
enjoying with people and for

1007
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:05,680
special occasions and you know I
I'm as guilty of it as anybody

1008
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,320
as kind of the phone wall with
some you know special releases

1009
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,360
that that are from other brands
because I haven't and busy as

1010
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,480
first, right.
But, you know, I mean, when it

1011
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,600
comes down to it, you know, I
work in the industry my kind of

1012
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,680
day-to-day bourbon would just be
Old Forester signature 100 per,

1013
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:25,760
you know, it's like, so yeah, I
I agree.

1014
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,720
I think it's it's a matter of
enjoying it.

1015
00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:30,680
And you know, especially if you
can patronize a really good

1016
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:35,480
whiskey bar that's in your area
for a special occasion with

1017
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,880
somebody special, you know,
that's really the best way to do

1018
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:38,320
it.
So.

1019
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,240
And I think I mean I I love
them.

1020
00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:42,000
Sit here.
This is going to be definitely

1021
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:46,400
by by top of favorite burger the
year, but also when this gets

1022
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,760
talking about a lot less.
But the president's choice this

1023
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:53,840
year, remote Forrester, was just
showstopper.

1024
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:56,880
So tell us a little bit about
that.

1025
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,200
Yeah, man.
So President's Choice is a

1026
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:00,840
really special product.
It is.

1027
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,200
It was actually the first
commercially available single

1028
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:08,040
barrel bourbon back in 1962 I
believe was the year.

1029
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,440
I believe the first one started
with B I'm kidding.

1030
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,240
Yeah, lot of people believe
that.

1031
00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:17,320
A lot of people like to call me
out and say that.

1032
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,000
Oh yeah, I know, I know.
You know your stuff.

1033
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:25,360
But, but yeah, man, it's it's
it's kind of cool because it is

1034
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,840
it's kind of not as widely
talked about, I think in part

1035
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:35,280
because it was it was a brand
that we ran during the 60s, I

1036
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,600
think the early 70s as well
really during bourbon's sort of,

1037
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:44,200
you know, peak heyday as a
spirit and then you know stopped

1038
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,640
subsequently producing it
whenever the demand fell off and

1039
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,240
then only reintroduced it in
2018.

1040
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,320
Whenever Campbell Brown was the
president of the company.

1041
00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:55,440
Whenever we, you know, opened up
the Old Forester distillery to

1042
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,440
the public and that was the
point at which Campbell started

1043
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:03,360
picking individual single
barrels and offering them and

1044
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,680
and really up until this past
year, it was just they were just

1045
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,320
sold in Kentucky and the vast
majority of them were sold at

1046
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,000
the Old Forester distillery.
That has since changed because

1047
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:18,400
we do a direct to consumer.
So if you sign up for the old

1048
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,160
Forester emails, it'll there'll
just be random releases where

1049
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,520
you can get an e-mail, you know,
click the link, and we're now

1050
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,040
shipping to several states
throughout the.

1051
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,160
US So so.
Definitely keep an eye out for

1052
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:31,920
that.
You know it.

1053
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,200
If you're an old Forester
enthusiast and you want to get

1054
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,120
your hands on a bottle of
President's Choice, that would

1055
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,920
be the way to do it.
And as you said, Zach, it's

1056
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,120
really, really killer juice.
Usually those are, you know,

1057
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,640
pretty close to barrel strength.
You know we're we're looking at

1058
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:51,160
the one 10115 sometime 120 proof
range and then right in the

1059
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,280
neighborhood just you know
knocking on the door of the

1060
00:57:53,280 --> 00:58:00,320
birthday bourbon year.
You know in terms of you're

1061
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:05,120
looking at 910 year old,
sometimes 11 year old whiskey

1062
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,640
single barrel that are going
into those President's choice.

1063
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:13,120
Releases and then so just to
sort of round it off Rule of

1064
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,880
three since we're watching
movies and comedy Kingage

1065
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,040
Kentucky then is sort of
obviously a different label,

1066
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,200
still brown for me, still
Louisville, but it's the it's

1067
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:29,800
the ABV long ranging but from
the same warehouses, you know

1068
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,440
that's correct.
Yeah, it's a it's a sort of like

1069
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,720
a a sibling, so to speak.
Yeah.

1070
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,240
And King is God.
That's such a special product.

1071
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,440
And you know.
If.

1072
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,280
I had infinite resources and
access and everything.

1073
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,440
I I would love to do a
president's choice birthday King

1074
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:53,640
of Kentucky plate because the
the different flavor that it

1075
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:59,360
takes on the the our distillate
takes on at the 15 to 16 year

1076
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:03,000
mark that you're getting into
with King of Kentucky or 18 year

1077
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,080
in the case of one of last
year's releases.

1078
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:10,160
It gets so much of this
interesting, you know, like what

1079
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,120
the cognac folks call like
rancio, you know, that like

1080
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:18,760
oxidized oh can like almost like
menthol and just like big

1081
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,240
tobacco and like, yeah, you know
what I'm talking about.

1082
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,680
Yeah, we had it.
We had it for a yeah, man, we

1083
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,720
had something at Kentucky
together not that long ago.

1084
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,600
Yeah, the 15 year and God, it's
just it.

1085
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,600
It is.
It's just they're all so special

1086
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,400
and and they're all so
different.

1087
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:39,480
And I think it's a testament to
really, I mean, where the

1088
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,800
industry is at, but also just
our ingenuity and and you know,

1089
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,320
the ingenuity of people like
Melissa and Chris who were on

1090
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:51,800
the front lines of making these
products, you know, and yeah,

1091
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,120
King of Kentucky's fantastic.
And there you go folks.

1092
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,200
I mean we got the holidays
coming up here.

1093
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,640
Treat yourself.
Get yourself a triple flag

1094
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,280
Birthday Bourbon 2023,
President's Choice 2023.

1095
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,760
Top it off with a Kentucky 16
year old and you will have.

1096
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:11,240
A trio of masterpieces from
ground, let me tell you.

1097
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,040
So let's let's sort of wrap this
up.

1098
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:16,800
What are your final class on
Wings World?

1099
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:18,720
Is it, is it something you're
going to watch again?

1100
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,000
You feel like you know it's
going to hit the rotation.

1101
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,080
You know, I want to recommend
this to my friends.

1102
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,480
Something that I like, tried to
champion just as a human being

1103
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,240
is what I call just like healthy
male friendship.

1104
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,600
I think that like so much of
being an adult male, and

1105
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,480
especially for like our dad's
generation and granddad's

1106
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:41,160
generation was very stoic and
very much based on solitude.

1107
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:46,080
And I just think that, you know,
as the world becomes kinder,

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01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,000
hopefully, you know, that's
something that we can move away

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01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,920
from and more move more towards
community.

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01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,720
And I think that that was really
the centerpiece of this movie

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01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,360
and the thing that I most
enjoyed about it.

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01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,520
And I think Russell, the
character that we joked about a

1113
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,880
little bit, actually had a lie
at one point in the movie where

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01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:06,560
he said and I learned that
something like healthy platonic

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01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,480
relationships can exist between
adult men or something like

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01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,760
that.
So without without being too

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01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,160
sentimental, I was like, I want
to recommend this to some of my

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01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,320
friends who I stay in touch
with, you know, and you know,

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01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,240
because it is it's just it's
it's a nice celebration of of

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01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,560
friendship in that way.
And I I appreciated the

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01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,760
wholesomeness of it.
Absolutely, Yeah.

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01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,640
And it that's that's a really
good way to put it.

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01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,320
Like this is.
It is a wholesome movie in the

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01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,400
end.
Like, it really is, you know,

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01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:36,480
like, which you would never
guess from an SNL movie from the

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01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:41,000
early 90s, especially one that
does dip into absurdity so, so

1127
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,080
deeply.
And yeah, that's like, this is

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01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,440
sort of, you know, this film for
me became kind of a a litmus

1129
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,000
test throughout the years where
if you're going to be, like,

1130
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,520
really deep friends with
someone, you know what I'd be

1131
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,560
you'd watch it and you'd be
like, yeah, they'd get it.

1132
01:01:55,800 --> 01:02:00,080
Like, we can hang, right?
But then that plays into what

1133
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,520
you're talking about.
Like, you know, this is like it

1134
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:08,800
is a film is about bonding with
with with people and that's sort

1135
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,600
of the beautiful beauty of it
and why I think it's sort of

1136
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,920
transcends generations.
And he still bolts up and still

1137
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,520
has fans and you know, new fans
will come to it.

1138
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:20,760
I mean we just passed Halloween.
You know my my feed was filled

1139
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,360
with people still dressing as
waiting.

1140
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:26,840
Garth and it's been 31 years and
that's that's kind of

1141
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,240
impressive.
Yeah, that it's still bad.

1142
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:34,840
That's permeation of the culture
has lasted that long and it is

1143
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:38,080
impressive.
Also a birthday bourbon has

1144
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,080
permeated the bourbon culture
and become such a cornerstone

1145
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,080
that lasted that long.
Ian, thank you so much for doing

1146
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,600
this.
I'm glad we were able to watch

1147
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,600
and talk about such a fun movie,
but also drink such a beautiful

1148
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,400
whiskey.
Can you tell the audience where

1149
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,680
people can find you, where
people can find your whiskey, or

1150
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,240
where people can find Dole,
Forester and?

1151
01:02:59,040 --> 01:02:59,920
Absolutely, man.
Yeah.

1152
01:02:59,920 --> 01:03:01,240
And thank you so much again for
having me.

1153
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,120
It's been a blast.
You can find me on Instagram at

1154
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:09,080
Imbibe with Ian the Mirror like
Underscores between Imbibe and

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01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,760
With.
And yeah, you get the idea,

1156
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,160
you'll find me.
But and then Old Forrester is

1157
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,640
just at Old Forrester.
Follow us.

1158
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,960
Look for those special releases.
Enjoy our products with your

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01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,480
with your friends and with your
family during this wonderful

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01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:28,400
holiday season.
And we're me now.

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01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,520
This is Zack's Whiskey Corner
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1162
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,920
Podcast.
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1163
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,760
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01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,760
single day.
We'll see you all then.

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01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:57,120
Thank you everybody
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