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Today, we will be discussing the
director cha Oral surgery.

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Carl's Chaplin and scoring him
out as every single director

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loves for people to do.
Then we're going to be trying

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five whiskies and throw it over
to an interview with our friend,

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Mariah Gates.
As she gives her top five,

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silent movies for beginners.
This is the film and whiskey

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podcast.
Hey everybody.

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Welcome into the film and
whiskey podcast.

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I'm Bob book, I'm Brad G.
And today Brad, it is time for

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us to score out.
Charlie Chaplin on the four

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movies that we watched from him.
If you're new to the podcast,

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we've been doing this thing for
the bat, the past two seasons.

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We watch a number of movies by a
given director and then we take

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those movies and we pass them
through a five-point metric to

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figure out numerically
mathematically.

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How good of a director are you
Brad?

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If there's one thing I've
learned about art, it's that

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passing it through a
mathematical metric is the way

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to evaluate it easily.
Yeah.

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It's by far the best way to do
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I don't know why.
When you go to like art museums

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they don't have like scoring
karna story.

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Yeah, scoring cards for you to
fill out and then Unlike, you

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know, maybe like attached two or
three professional critics cards

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like underneath each painting or
sculpture so you can kind of

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compare and contrast, what how
you think about it?

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Versus what they think?
The thing is, as much as I'm

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saying, this is a joke, there's
part of me that's like oh I

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would actually kind of enjoy
that.

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Yeah, I would have waited till I
saw like the Post-it note that

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someone wrote next to a Picasso.
That's like it's too blue or

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something.
You don't mean.

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All right Brad.
Let's talk about this metric.

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So we established this.
Five-point metric last season in

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a bonus episode.
When we tried to establish, like

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what makes a good director?
What are the things that when

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you talk about, somebody being
good at directing movies that

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they're actually good at doing
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into five distinct categories.
Brad can you remind our

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listeners of what those
categories are?

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And what they mean?
Performances are how good at

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directing actors and actresses,
is this director cinematography

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is, What do I see on the screen?
And how much is it Pleasant and

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attractive and work with what
he's trying to do editing is

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sound and visual.
So the cutting of the film, you

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know, when you think about the
Lord of the Rings, when you

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think about The Good, the Bad
and the Ugly, like the the

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movement from scene to scene, is
different in these movies like

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and who does it the best?
Cohesion is how well does the

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film stick together.
And this can be story-wise.

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It can be acting, it can be
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But like all together, how much
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And then finally uniqueness and
this is looking at the director

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and saying, you know, within the
pantheon of all films and then

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also, like, within his
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How unique are you what, what
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table that are unique?
What camera movements are you

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using?
That are unique ha, how much can

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I say, you know, watch a scene
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Oh, that's that's David Lynch or
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you know, just at the drop of a
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How unique are they nicely?
Done?

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Sir.
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And I'm pretty happy with that.
Without further Ado, folks,

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let's talk about Charles Spencer
Chaplin Brad.

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I was a little bit taken aback
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I don't want to say the, the Met
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chaplain because I think it was
largely positive, but you were

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not as over the moon for
chaplain, as I thought you might

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be I just find his movies to be
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from people from ages, you know,
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you as effectively as I thought
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I mean, what he is known for and
like, famous for worked for me,

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like his true silent film era.
The one movie that was filmed

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and directed in a time where all
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Teams worked for me, 100%.
I was in it was the movies that

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he made when silent films were
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still sticking to it or, you
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first foray into talkies.
That's what I just I just wasn't

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as impressed with him as a
director so I don't know man.

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I'm going to put this back in
the ball, back in your court and

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say maybe you should have picked
better movies.

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I will say, I have gotten
multiple people.

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Writing to me saying, I can't
believe how wrong Brad was about

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The Great Dictator in
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The great like not modern times,
not City Lights, people really

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seem to like The Great Dictator
and they really seem to not like

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you as a result.
Well what was it?

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The Great Dictator or the fact
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really got people.
I'm great that's all I'm really

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push people over the edge.
Like I started them off there

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and just push them off the edge,
with my take on the movie.

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And so they just lumped me in As
a terrible person.

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All right man, let's talk about
the performances in Chaplin's

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movies.
I think that if there's anywhere

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well there's a couple other
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there's anywhere that he's
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going to be in directing actors
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We've talked about that iconic
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it's just the close up on him at
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not knowing, if he's going to be
accepted by the flower girl, we

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talked about Goddard in modern
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We talked about her dad in The
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guy's not funny at all.
And chaplain did a great job of

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leveraging that I think that
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people on screen to do these
elaborate gags, or in drawing

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really good dramatic
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Out of people, I think across
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direction of actors is
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I'm going to give him a nine and
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Yeah.
Yeah, I met a nine and a half as

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well.
I think that Chaplin himself is

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an incredible actor.
We talked a lot throughout the

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episodes about even just the way
he his famous way, he walks and

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goes up and down stairs, and he
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and it just gives a Ark to his
character that like, so few

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other characters in film history
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So, yeah, I think that the
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and, and easily will be His
Highest category in my I think

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cinematography does kind of
rival it though Brad.

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And in particular I'm thinking
of when we watched the gold

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rush, we are talking about the
special effects that he had on

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the screen and like an early
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Screening.
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when they say, these people are
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overhanging cliff and there's
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I think the way he uses the
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I know you weren't a huge fan of
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they're in the department store
and he's about to roller skate

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off into the abyss.
This you should look up sometime

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how they pull that shot off
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camera, but it was done by
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like they painted onto a sheet
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the glass.
So that it looked like he was

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coming up against a big drop off
when there was actually nothing

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there in real life.
Really, really clever use of

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special effects and I think he's
really good at using the camera

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to tell the story not to be
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Like there's not a ton Of like
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though we had that one in the
Gold Rush that we loved but just

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economical efficient, use of the
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And I think that using the
camera like that doesn't get

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high marks often enough and I'm
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I'm going to give him a 9 out of
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Yeah.
Honestly I was going to give him

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an 8 out of 10 here but the
story about how he shot that

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roller skating scene is like,
that's incredible.

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That's just really, really cool.
I think that he does a great job

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with the camera and that shot
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when everybody takes to the
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But him is probably like a top 5
favorite shots that I've ever

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seen in a film.
So I'll give him an eight and a

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half here, alright?
That takes us to editing and I

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think last time we did this with
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that I finally figured out how
to separate in my mind the

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editing and the cohesion
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rhythm of the movie, right?
Does the movie drag is the movie

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cut?
Well and then cohesion is like,

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does the director build a
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characters?
That's kind of how I think about

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it.
At least I think that I'm going

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to still give him very high
marks in cohesion.

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But in editing I'm just going to
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I really love these movies and
so I'm probably scoring him

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higher than you will hear.
But the Great Dictator is like

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at least ten minutes too long.
I think that there are certain

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Moments in even modern times, my
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does get a little repetitive
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It's like, all right, we're
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like we're going to do this,
this whole feeding a guy, threw

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a chicken carcass thing again.
So if there's anywhere that I

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think he suffers it is in
editing but he still gets an 8

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and a half for me.
Yeah, this is this is where I

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think he struggles the most is
knowing when to stop a gag, even

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in the Gold Rush, there were
certain gags that just went on

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Way too long.
I think that this is by far his

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weakest category and it's the
reason I struggled with his

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movies.
So I'm going to give it a six

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out of ten, he man.
Alright, so cohesion then on the

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other hand, even if the movies
drag at certain points, I think

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that he really does build these
fantastic worlds where it has

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one foot, in reality, one foot
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I think about modern times where
it's like they're living in a

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Shack on the edge of a lake.
That is clearly.

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We being used for like dumping
toxic waste, you know what I

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mean?
Like it's just there's just

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little things where yeah this
seems plausible but it's also

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like a place that it makes sense
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live.
And I think he does such a great

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job of finding those worlds, and
not making them to Fantastic

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goal.
And also making it make sense

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that a character, like the Tramp
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This might actually be his best
category for me.

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I think I'm gonna give him a 10
here, Brad.

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That's interesting.
I for me, I think the

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performances are easily the
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I'll give it an 8 out of 10 on
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I think that he builds really
interesting worlds and I think

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that he has interesting
characters, I think that there's

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just enough of a hindrance for
me and enjoying the world's that

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he builds that keep me from
giving it a really high score

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here.
So I'll give him an 8 out of 10

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here.
I think that when it comes to

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you, Weakness.
This is where I have no idea how

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to score him because compared to
every other movie I've ever

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watched in my life.
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This is very unique but I've not
watched any other silent films

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Bob.
So I'm going to let you take the

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lead here and give a uniqueness
score.

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Well I don't mean I know that
I'm really not going to sway

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your score but this is another
area where it's like if it's not

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a 10 it's a 9 and a half because
no one made movies like Chaplin.

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There were three major American
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Time it was Chaplin Buster
Keaton and Harold, Lloyd and

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Harold.
Lloyd's movies are really sweet

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and really sincere, but the
probably the least artistically

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accomplished Buster Keaton at
just had a very different style

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of Comedy than Chaplin did and
it was much more reliant on

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Stunt work.
So they're like big Burly kind

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of action e movies with a lot of
comedy in it, and, you know,

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some, some romance as well.
Chaplin really wanted to reflect

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the plight of people in America
and across the world.

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And whether or not that works
for you.

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I think that it's kind of
undeniable that no one was doing

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it the way he was doing it and
also trying to make you laugh

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while he made you cry.
They're really just is no

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parallel for him.
And so for me this is another 10

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out of 10.
I'll give him an 88 and a half

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out of ten here largely because
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But also to say that like I
really enjoyed his characters

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that he brought about and I
think that that is a unique

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characteristic that not Tall
directors have in them to give

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you characters that are
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So I'll give him an 8 and a half
on uniqueness.

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Bob, I am coming out to a 40.5
out of 50 here, I am coming out

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to a very, very high 47 out of
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I think Chaplin whatever you
think of the flaws in his

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movies.
I don't think there are very

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many but I think that our metric
is really well suited to

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chaplain, when it just comes to
things.

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Like, does he build a coherent
world does is he unique among

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Pierce.
Like, you're just going to get

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high marks for being the guy
that made silent movies when no

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one else was making silent
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Like that's unique in itself.
So yeah, we're coming out to an

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average Brad of a forty, three
point, seven five out of 50 or a

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an 87 and a half out of 100.
Yeah I think that it's probably

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a good place for chaplain to fit
and I know that I was not as

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high on his movies as most
people are and To that.

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I say I don't give a rip.
No, there it is.

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All right man.
Listen we have to drink five

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Whiskey's before we throw over
to our pre-recorded interview

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with Mariah Gates.
I did want to Bob, we get to

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drink five, we get to.
I was just going to say, I don't

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want to give the impression that
we're going to drink.

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Five whiskies and then go
interview Mariah Gates.

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That would be a recipe for
disaster.

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But stick around for that at the
back half of the show for now.

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Brad, let's dive into these
whiskeys.

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What do you say?
Let's get to it.

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All right.
Brad, we have a gauntlet in

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front of us.
My dude there are five Whiskey's

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that need to be drank.
They meet, they must needs be

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drunk the to speak.
It Old King James language,

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we've got five whiskies from
very different distillers here.

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In front of us, two of the
distillers are Old.

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Faithful old classics on the
film and whiskey podcast.

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One of the distillers is
brand-new to us, Brad.

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I don't know where to quite
start here, but let me at least

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give the names of what we're
drinking today.

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So we've got two whiskeys.
From 10th Mountain, whiskey a

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rye and a bourbon.
We've got two experimental

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Bourbons from Nur.
If one is called the yellow

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leaning and one is called the
Blue Claridge, and then we have

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the newest release from
Bardstown bourbon company their

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Discovery series number 10,
which has been picking up rave

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reviews, all over the place,
including from our friend, Zack

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Johnston at up rocks, who just
ranked it in his top 20 whiskies

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of the year so far.
Yeah, and he's right.

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I've tried three of these five
whiskeys.

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I will not say which ones I
haven't tried until we get to

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them, but Brad, what order
should we go in here?

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Um, let's let's just go ahead
and start at the top.

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I would love to talk about this
Bardstown Discovery.

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All right.
Cool.

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So we're starting with the
highest proof offering that we

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have here.
This is a one hundred and

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fourteen point two for proof
whiskey and I will say this is

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based on the fact that iíve
already drank all five.

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So Bob if you want to start
somewhere else because fun fact,

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if you don't drink whiskey
consecutively, you should always

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start with the lower proof
whiskey first, and then move

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your way up.
Because if you start off with

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the 114, your palates going to
be fried for the 86-90 proof

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something.
So, if you want to start

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somewhere else, by all means my
friends.

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Now, let's do it.
I feel like I kind of like put

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my thumb on the scale a little
bit.

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When I started talking about all
the accolades as things one.

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So the discovery series from
Bardstown is a blended whiskey

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from different products that
they source.

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And it is just like a fantastic
example of what blending whiskey

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can be.
So this particular blend is made

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up.
I'm going to throw a bunch of

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numbers that you guys, 62 % 9
year-old Kentucky, bourbon 18%,

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13-year Kentucky, bourbon 8%
six-year, Kentucky, bourbon,

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10%, 10-year, Georgia, bourbon,
And 2% 10-year, Tennessee,

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bourbon.
So this thing has some age to it

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Brad it kind of shakes out to be
about 75 percent corn 13, right?

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N barley and then point five
percent of something else.

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I assume wheat.
I'm not entirely sure.

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So it's funny like they listed
out on the sell sheet of like,

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oh this is, this has a nine-year
bourbon in it and it'll say

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like, 75 1510, but it won't say
what the 75 1510 are, right?

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So I'm just guessing what the
Rains are in this, in any case,

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it's gotten rave reviews.
Let's try the thing.

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Yeah.
So when I jumped into this on

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the nose, do you remember?
I feel like this was around in

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our childhood cream.
Savers.

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Oh yeah.
The Lifesavers that had like the

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strawberry woven into him and
stuff.

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There is strawberry and orange.
Those were like, the only two

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flavors.
This is an orange Cream Saver

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Bob.
Wow.

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It's like I got just the A
little bit of citrus to it, but

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it's creamy and delicious.
There's caramel, there's

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vanilla.
I got some like toasted almond

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nuttiness on the nose.
This is friggin incredible,

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dude.
You know what?

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It almost comes across on the
nose, like a really solid weeded

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bourbon to me.
It's not even more than just

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like, oh, it's a bourbon with
wheat in it.

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It has that classic Cola.
Note we get, but I almost had to

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remind myself that.
I wasn't just drinking a

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Coca-Cola because Is it smells
like a Coca-Cola in a glass to

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me, like, there's almost an
effervescence to it.

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And when I went to taste it, it
tastes Thin and Thick at the

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same time.
I don't know how to explain it.

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Like, it has that sort of like
thin mouthfeel, you get from

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like really high proof whiskey
sometimes because of the alcohol

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content.
But then the flavor is complex

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enough that it kind of comes in
waves and it really coats your

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palate.
For me.

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It was like spicy black A
Coca-Cola and then like a hint

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of dark chocolate, ice cream.
It was really creamy with some

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cacao to it, I really like that.
Yeah, for me, I'm the flavor.

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You get the caramel, there's
brown sugar, there's vanilla,

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but the, there's a ton of like a
the orange move from a

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creaminess to like, have you
ever had the little dark

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chocolate oranges that like,
split off into little slices?

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Oh yeah.
It reminded me of that.

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And then there was I didn't get
quite black And pepper.

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But there is some, some sort of
baking spices mixture in there,

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that had tons of complexity, and
flavor, and like balanced out

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the sweetness really, really
well.

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And then as I got into the
finish, it moved back into the

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creaminess.
There's vanilla, the nuttiness

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came back through Bob, this is a
whiskey.

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I will say that I am slightly
lower on it than I think.

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Both you and Zach are and it's
because of the finish for me.

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The - got really herbal for me
like huh?

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Yeah, like like almost vegetal
kind of it.

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It took on like a really grassy
character which is fine, but it

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just kind of turned a little bit
bitter for me towards the end.

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Whereas the front of it was like
Coca-Cola, like a really nice

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bright, you know, corn syrup e,
kind of thing.

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It didn't finish that way, which
is fine.

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But, you know, I just kind of
expected it to kind of follow

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the trajectory that had had, it
didn't quite finish. that way

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for me, but I think once again,
Listen.

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Bardstown can do no wrong in our
eyes.

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Like they never have, they never
will, their products are all

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good.
Like the worst Bardstown product

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I've had, is still like an eight
and a half out of ten and this

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is probably better than that.
Yeah, Bob, I know that like

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whiskey tasting is an opinion
based Endeavor, but you're

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wrong.
This is nearly a perfect whiskey

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Bob.
This Bardstown Discovery 10

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series is one of the best.
Bourbons that we have had in an

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extraordinarily long time.
Wow, like it's at the perfect

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proof.
Point the, perfect balance

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perfect flavors.
I could drink bottle after

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bottle of this.
Why don't you take this?

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Why did you pick this to start
with?

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Have you ever heard of burying
the lead?

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Like this is what we end with
man.

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That's what this is.
What do you say?

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This is the best thing I've had
in Forever.

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Do you want to know the reality
of the situation?

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Yeah, let's hear it.
I knew that if we spent time

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talking about the other ones, we
Would we would get to the end

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and be like, oh yeah we got to
hurry up and like, finish this.

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That's and not take as much time
to talk about how incredible

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this whiskey is.
Well, let's get into the next to

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Brad and I think that we started
off in such a high proof Point.

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Let's go to the lower proof ones
and those are the 10th Mountain

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whiskeys.
Now we've never had this brand

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before they, they were kind
enough to send us each a full

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bottle of their rye and a full
bottle of their Bourbon.

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And the thing that immediately
stood out to me, Brad beyond the

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82 proof point is that it
proudly states on the front that

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it is aged for one year we have
not had a lot of one year

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Whiskey's on this Pond.
Oh, oh it is kind of common

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knowledge among distillers that
Rai ages, a little more rapidly

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in terms of tasting mature, then
bourbon does.

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I don't think any distillers out
there would say this is fully

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mature at one year, right?
So what I'm thinking is that

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10th mountain is probably A
newer brand.

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It seems like they are
distilling their own stuff which

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I think is huge awesome, right?
Yeah.

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Like they're not sourcing this,
they're just coming out the gate

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and saying like Hey we're going
to put out a really young

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whiskey.
If you like where it's at at one

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year stick with us at to stick
with us at three and four.

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Yeah.
Like I hope they get to a point

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where they're doing friggin
Boldon bond in a couple years.

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That would be awesome.
Yeah that would be incredible.

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I I love when distilleries are
willing to put their money where

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their mouth is and say.
Like, we're distilling our own,

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our own juice and we want to get
it out there for people to try.

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Now, what say, you Bob do you
want to try the Rye or the

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bourbon first?
Let's start with the bird.

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That's alright.
Let's start with the ride just

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because it's on my left here.
So, its first what I'm looking

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at, I really like the nose on
this Brad, it is immediately

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apparent how young this is,
because the color on it is just

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not what we normally get on a
well-aged dry.

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It's very grain forward on the
nose, but it doesn't smell like

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sour ride to me.
There's a lot of really Ali

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bright fruit here.
I get a lot of Peach on this.

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I'm actually really interested
to see where this goes.

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The I know you've tasted both of
them.

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These are the two that I have
not tasted yet so I'm going to

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give it a sip while you describe
your experience.

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Yeah.
So I as I said, I love what

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they're doing here.
I'm a fan of them, you know, for

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00:24:29,100 --> 00:24:33,500
a young out into the world of
whiskey and and trailblazing in

446
00:24:33,500 --> 00:24:38,200
their own path but I'm using a
lot of big nice words to say

447
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,700
that this smells like nail
polish remover and it tastes

448
00:24:42,700 --> 00:24:44,300
like it too.
Oh yeah.

449
00:24:44,300 --> 00:24:45,600
See I'm not getting that at all
Brad.

450
00:24:47,500 --> 00:24:50,300
I'm having a vastly different
experience than you actually.

451
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,500
I'm really glad to hear that
eyes.

452
00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:56,700
This is this there yet?
No, but there's nothing

453
00:24:56,700 --> 00:24:59,600
offensive on the palate.
It's I think honestly the worst

454
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,200
thing I can say about it is that
it has no complexity to it yet

455
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,400
but it tastes like a really darn
good, Rye Whiskey and I'm

456
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,300
expecting that like the
additional aging is going to

457
00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:12,900
bring that complexity and some
of the mouthfeel to it as well.

458
00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:15,900
It's a little bit thin, but it's
got the sweetness that I'm

459
00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:18,400
looking for in.
In a like, a finished rye

460
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,000
whiskey.
It's got a little bit of that

461
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:26,500
fruit note to it, as well at one
year, I was expecting this to be

462
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,300
a heck of a lot worse than it
is.

463
00:25:28,300 --> 00:25:33,100
This is actually pretty good.
I will leave it there and jump

464
00:25:33,100 --> 00:25:36,700
on over to the bourbon.
I guess, I will say to you.

465
00:25:36,708 --> 00:25:42,400
You're the resident Rye person
on this podcast, but I can see

466
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,600
that this Rye is already like in
my preferred.

467
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,000
I will house.
So that's why I think that's why

468
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,900
I'm excited about it because I
expected to stay in this flavor

469
00:25:52,900 --> 00:25:56,400
profile and just pick up some
more character as it goes.

470
00:25:57,100 --> 00:26:01,100
Yeah, I'm with you.
It will pick up more character

471
00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:04,600
as it goes.
Alright, let's jump into the

472
00:26:04,608 --> 00:26:07,100
bourbon.
This one has been sitting out

473
00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:09,300
for as long as the right house.
I've had these both kind of

474
00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:13,000
airing out since we started this
recording, the bourbon is more

475
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,800
subtle on the nose than the Rye,
but it does to its Credit have

476
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,100
quite a bit of like a maple
brown sugar nose to it.

477
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,800
Yep.
Dead it does.

478
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,100
If you say it does Bob man you
are not.

479
00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:30,200
You're not giving them any
credit here, Brad.

480
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,100
Like I know.
Wow.

481
00:26:32,700 --> 00:26:35,500
I'll just I'll just get my
thoughts out of the way.

482
00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:38,800
Bob this isn't good whiskey, the
rise not good whiskey.

483
00:26:39,300 --> 00:26:41,800
They they need to put more time
in.

484
00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:44,000
It needs more time in the
barrel.

485
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,800
Desperately, the bourbon has a A
little bit more flavor to it

486
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,700
than the Rye does.
The, which is surprising because

487
00:26:52,700 --> 00:26:55,800
I was expecting the ride to be a
little bit better at this age

488
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,500
statement, but the bourbon
actually has a tiny bit of a

489
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,300
brown sugar e note to it.
Actually I like your note, it

490
00:27:04,300 --> 00:27:13,000
has a hint of maple syrup but
beyond that it is high in

491
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:19,400
ethanol low in flavor.
I like I've had a few white dogs

492
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,200
that I like more than this and
now, man, that's saying a lot.

493
00:27:23,300 --> 00:27:25,100
We have had it brands on this
podcast.

494
00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:28,400
Before that we have really
tiptoed around our thoughts on

495
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,700
and a safe to say you have not
done that.

496
00:27:30,700 --> 00:27:32,700
Today, you've got tipped with
you, I appreciate that you

497
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:35,600
haven't.
But let me also say this I'm not

498
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,300
tiptoeing here either I'm
legitimately in the complete

499
00:27:39,300 --> 00:27:41,400
opposite place that you are on
these Brad.

500
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,500
Like I was expecting to not like
these.

501
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,200
I am very Only surprised with
these because when I've tasted

502
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,200
young whiskey or white dog,
right?

503
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,000
Like unaged, whiskey.
The grain is the thing that you

504
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,700
noticed the most and I will say
that whatever they've done with

505
00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:58,900
this one year whiskey.
It doesn't taste like

506
00:27:58,900 --> 00:28:03,600
aggressively grainy to me.
It tastes like a whiskey that I

507
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,200
don't know how to explain it.
It's almost like where you're

508
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,100
like, adjusting the color on a
picture and you kind of

509
00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:14,900
desaturate it a little bit, you
know, like Andy the Vibrance out

510
00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:19,400
of it, it has finished.
And I when I say finished mature

511
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,800
whiskey character to it but it's
like they just kind of turn the

512
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,800
dial down a little bit and I'm
okay with that.

513
00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:28,600
It almost tastes just kind of
like diluted whiskey a little

514
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,200
bit.
It's really good and I think

515
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,100
that at two years at four years,
this is going to be darn good

516
00:28:34,100 --> 00:28:36,600
stuff and I don't Minded at one
year.

517
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,600
In fact, I would say, like if
you want to try a one-year

518
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,900
whiskey, I don't know that you
could do any better than this.

519
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,900
How much does it cost?
I have no idea.

520
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,500
Hmm.
That that would that would be

521
00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:52,200
interesting for me.
It was, it was free 99 for us.

522
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,700
Brad.
That's daggone, right?

523
00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:56,800
It was, that is a great price to
pay for whiskey pop.

524
00:28:57,300 --> 00:28:58,600
All right?
Listen, we've got two more to

525
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,900
try.
Let's try these new riffs.

526
00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:03,700
These are both bottled and bond
Expressions.

527
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,800
They are well they're they're As
a straight bourbon whiskey is at

528
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,200
100 Proof.
I'm not sure if they're

529
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,500
technically bottled in bond.
They are experimental runs from

530
00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:15,300
new riff using different kinds
of corn.

531
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,200
And in one corner in one
experiment, they used what's

532
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,100
called a yellow leaming corn.
And in the other one they use

533
00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:24,100
what's called Blue Claridge.
I think it's pronounced Claridge

534
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:27,500
corn.
And it's literally like just to

535
00:29:27,500 --> 00:29:30,800
see what the difference is by
using two different varietals of

536
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,300
corn.
I think it's really, really cool

537
00:29:32,300 --> 00:29:35,900
idea.
And I have to say I did Is a

538
00:29:35,900 --> 00:29:37,900
difference between these two
products.

539
00:29:38,300 --> 00:29:41,800
Yeah, 100%.
There is a huge difference here.

540
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,400
Which one do you want to start
with yellow or blue?

541
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,700
Let's start with yellow.
I'll give my notes real quick

542
00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:51,400
because the yellow is like a bob
book, special.

543
00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:56,100
It's like, I knows this and it
was like, I don't think I've

544
00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:59,900
ever smelled anything as
strongly brown sugar, that isn't

545
00:29:59,900 --> 00:30:05,500
brown sugar, but it was just
like brown sugar for days.

546
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,300
As to the point where I started
picking up a second note, and I

547
00:30:08,300 --> 00:30:12,300
was like, what is that, and the
brown sugar kept overwhelming it

548
00:30:12,300 --> 00:30:14,200
that I couldn't pick out a
second thing.

549
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,600
I eventually settled, was it
Browner sugar?

550
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,300
I'd eventually settled on black
pepper because I was like, I

551
00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:22,800
guess it's kinda spicy.
But listen, this is not the most

552
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,000
complex Whiskey in the world but
Bob Books palette does not care.

553
00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:31,900
Like it is a super decadent
super sweet almost like it

554
00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:35,000
almost had a we did a bourbon
finish to me that I kind of had

555
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,100
some of that cold.
That we got on the Bardstown

556
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:42,800
Maple vanilla brown sugar, it
was just right in my wheelhouse.

557
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:47,400
I was a huge fan of the yellow.
Yeah I am mostly with you.

558
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,300
I think for me the other note I
got outside of the sweetness was

559
00:30:52,300 --> 00:30:57,000
kind of like a really nice light
citrus lemon taste.

560
00:30:57,500 --> 00:31:00,600
Like there's just a little bit
of a lemony feel to this.

561
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,000
That gave it a little bit of
character that transformed it

562
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,900
from being a nice light.
Into something that had a little

563
00:31:06,900 --> 00:31:10,500
bit of complexity and really
took me in.

564
00:31:10,500 --> 00:31:15,000
I like the yellow Leeming a lot.
On the other hand we have this

565
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,900
blue Claridge.
It sounds like maybe you didn't

566
00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:20,600
love this one as much.
I as I drank it I thought I

567
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,300
wonder if Brad's going to like
this one better just because the

568
00:31:23,300 --> 00:31:27,800
yellow was so far up my alley
that I was like okay this one is

569
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,000
much more Okie much more spicy a
little bit of ride for me on the

570
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,800
pallet that the yellow
definitely didn't have.

571
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,800
What were your thoughts on the
blue?

572
00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:40,400
Incredible.
See, I knew it like yeah, I know

573
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,300
this one was great.
There's caramel there's oh,

574
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,700
There's pepper.
There's like not like an older

575
00:31:46,700 --> 00:31:50,400
let like a new leather feel to
it on the palate.

576
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,600
I had black pepper.
There's a little bit of anise

577
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,200
and it which normally I don't
like as a flavor but it mixed

578
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,100
just fine in here.
Dude, this was a really

579
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:05,900
interesting complex kind of dark
feeling whiskey that I was

580
00:32:05,900 --> 00:32:07,600
totally down with this
experience.

581
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,100
I would take the blue Claridge
any day of the week.

582
00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:15,700
This is why I love doing this.
This podcast with you like and

583
00:32:15,700 --> 00:32:19,000
this is also why new riff like
sending us stuff to try because

584
00:32:19,300 --> 00:32:22,200
now we get to promote both
products and suggest that you go

585
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,600
by both products.
I really like these.

586
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,100
Both the yellow is definitely my
preference.

587
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,400
The blue seems like it's
definitely your preference.

588
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,600
Mmm.
Yeah.

589
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:35,700
The the blue, the blue Claridge
had a depth to it that I think

590
00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:39,500
was the missing on the yellow.
But that being said, like, if I

591
00:32:39,500 --> 00:32:44,300
scored both of these out of 50,
I'd probably land on like a 7:38

592
00:32:45,100 --> 00:32:48,900
for the yellow and like a 39 or
40 on the blue, like they're

593
00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:52,400
both really solid like D+
Whiskey's.

594
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,500
Yep.
Listen.

595
00:32:53,500 --> 00:32:56,000
Sometimes you just want to eat
cake frosting, right out of the

596
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,100
tub and and that's what the
yellow leaving is like, I'm all

597
00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:01,600
for it.
Sometimes I just don't want to

598
00:33:01,608 --> 00:33:03,800
have to think about how complex
the whiskey is.

599
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,000
I want it to be decadent.
I want it to be sweet, and

600
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,200
that's exactly what that is and
it freaking check the boxes that

601
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,200
I needed tonight.
I remember one time Haley made.

602
00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:19,600
Like a homemade vanilla frosting
and we had like the cinnamon,

603
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,600
graham crackers in the house and
I had like I've been in a little

604
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,100
bit of an unhealthy period in my
life.

605
00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:28,600
And I was gaining a little
weight and I would just eat

606
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,100
graham crackers with vanilla
frosting on.

607
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,400
It was the most incredible
thing.

608
00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:38,700
When Haley found out that I was
doing that, she was like, well,

609
00:33:38,700 --> 00:33:42,900
no wonder you're gaining weight
like you just eating the worst

610
00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:44,700
possible?
Evil thing in the world.

611
00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:47,500
Let me live my life, that's what
I yeah, do that.

612
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,200
Yeah, all right man, we have an
interview to get to, we have

613
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,200
brought back, our friend, Mariah
gates to talk about the top 5

614
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,100
movies.
She would recommend for

615
00:33:57,100 --> 00:34:00,400
beginners who are new to silent
movies.

616
00:34:00,500 --> 00:34:02,600
Super excited to talk to her.
Let's get to it.

617
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:03,900
Brad.
Yeah, man.

618
00:34:03,900 --> 00:34:05,300
Excited for it.
Let's get to it.

619
00:34:09,900 --> 00:34:11,800
All right, we are here with
Mariah Gates.

620
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,000
You might remember her from our
episode, a few weeks ago on City

621
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,300
Lights Mariah.
Thank you for joining us again.

622
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,600
Thanks for having me.
I mean, you are the resident

623
00:34:20,699 --> 00:34:24,100
expert at silent films on film
and whiskey and the competition

624
00:34:24,100 --> 00:34:26,400
was just me.
So, like you pretty easily beat

625
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:31,100
me out in that that capacity.
But what we wanted to do is we

626
00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:35,100
know that most people that are
listening to this episode, have

627
00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:37,900
either never seen a silent film
or if they've watched A few on

628
00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:40,400
our account, it's just Chaplin
and Mariah.

629
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,300
I want to throw over real quick
to a clip from before we started

630
00:34:44,300 --> 00:34:47,600
recording the episode Brad was
telling you about how City

631
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:52,100
Lights was the first silent
movie he'd ever seen and you had

632
00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:55,900
such a great take on people
seeing silent films for the

633
00:34:55,908 --> 00:34:58,300
first time I wanted to include
that sound clip here.

634
00:34:58,300 --> 00:35:00,200
And then we'll get back into
talking about what we're talking

635
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,900
about now.
I will say, I told Bob, I was

636
00:35:02,900 --> 00:35:07,800
like there's an element of.
I, I know I Know what?

637
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,600
I don't know.
And so I don't totally know how

638
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,200
to rate and and you know, the
ranking is at the end of the day

639
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,600
is somewhat meaningless.
But like, you know, that doesn't

640
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,300
know how to rate him Ivan's.
A lot other side until that

641
00:35:23,300 --> 00:35:27,600
happens with silent.
Not even just like a novice

642
00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:31,000
within the silent Community
sound film fan Community because

643
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,200
it was depending on who you talk
to you.

644
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,400
If you're like, talking about
actual moving image or Talking

645
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,300
about police Cinema you know
like the the horse you know

646
00:35:41,300 --> 00:35:45,600
images you basically have 40 30
to 40 years worth of cinema,

647
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,900
right?
That's a long time and there's

648
00:35:48,900 --> 00:35:52,400
people who love the the later
era stuff who like will give

649
00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:55,900
like a fragment one star or
they'll give.

650
00:35:56,500 --> 00:35:58,400
I particularly love the nineteen
teens.

651
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,000
They'll give like films from the
nineteen teens that maybe you

652
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,400
know, maybe they're a little
more archaic in the way that

653
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,700
they the art.
We I don't say archaic.

654
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,500
The art is different.
It's Different mode of

655
00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:10,500
expression, right?
But they don't like it so

656
00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:12,500
they'll give it like one star.
And I'm like, that's a

657
00:36:12,508 --> 00:36:15,400
masterpiece of 1911.
What are you doing?

658
00:36:15,700 --> 00:36:18,900
And this is someone who was also
seen thousands of silent films.

659
00:36:19,300 --> 00:36:23,400
So this is to say that I think
there, this is an area that is.

660
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,600
So like it's not really a genre.
It is, it is a era of filmmaking

661
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,900
and there's so much difference
within that, you know.

662
00:36:31,900 --> 00:36:34,300
Like, I know some people who
love the like 1902.

663
00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:38,500
That's their, that's their
favorite era and it's Like what?

664
00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:41,100
But also a 1902 is great.
I actually have a pink bike one

665
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:43,900
of my films this from that era,
but the point is we don't want

666
00:36:43,900 --> 00:36:48,500
to offend the 1902 Fanboys out.
There is like, no wrong way to

667
00:36:48,500 --> 00:36:51,000
engage with silent.
That's great to hear anything

668
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,600
and watching us on it because
there is so much there.

669
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,900
Yeah, there's 90% loss.
But the 10% that isn't the isn't

670
00:36:57,900 --> 00:37:00,800
losses, still thousands and
thousands they were making you

671
00:37:00,808 --> 00:37:04,500
know like those Weber was making
a film a week for like ten

672
00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:06,900
years.
That's a that's a lot of mu p.

673
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,400
So, you know, there's oh, my
God, man.

674
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,000
Doing is giving me permission to
give this a 1 out of 10 just to

675
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,200
mess with Bob.
I mean, you could, but there's

676
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,500
I'm just saying, there's no
there's no judgment because it

677
00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:23,100
is its vast awesome.
You made a really great point.

678
00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:26,000
The first time you were here,
talking about how silent film is

679
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,500
not really a genre.
It's 40 Years of movies, they

680
00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:32,300
just didn't have sound, so it's
really hard to lump them all

681
00:37:32,300 --> 00:37:36,000
together and yet, I feel like
most people probably do lump

682
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,000
them together in that way.
And so we have a task ahead of

683
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,200
us today.
We ask Mariah to join us and

684
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:46,800
give us her top five films for
beginning, your silent film

685
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,700
Journey and I'm really
interested to see what Mariah

686
00:37:49,700 --> 00:37:53,600
has to say because like you know
Brad we talked about the The

687
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,400
Sight and Sound poll when that
came out and how there's so many

688
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,900
different ways of making your
list.

689
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,800
Is it just hey, I think these
are the 10 best films ever made.

690
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,700
Hey, these are my 10 favorite
movies.

691
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,100
Hey, I know what movies are
going to get voted for and I

692
00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:09,400
want Shine a light on some other
stuff and hopefully that can get

693
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,000
included to.
And I feel like Mariah, you

694
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,200
could probably approach this
like this.

695
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,000
I had a fight in found ballet.
Oh, hey, yes.

696
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,900
And one of the films that I was
going to mention.

697
00:38:19,900 --> 00:38:24,500
In this top five was on My Sight
and Sound pilot, my strategy was

698
00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:29,700
exactly what you pointed out.
I had one film that.

699
00:38:30,100 --> 00:38:32,400
Just barely didn't make the
hundred last year.

700
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,100
It still didn't make 100 this
year mad about it, but oh no, it

701
00:38:35,100 --> 00:38:36,400
did it, did it maybe 100 this
year.

702
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,100
But the last time Ten years, it
didn't.

703
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:41,100
And so I, it's from a director
of where this is not my favorite

704
00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:44,700
of her films, but I wanted it to
get in the top hundred, so I had

705
00:38:44,700 --> 00:38:48,000
it on my ballot and then, most
of the other films were.

706
00:38:48,700 --> 00:38:53,600
I'm assuming these are having
this like don't have a Ice

707
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,400
Cube's chance in hell to get on
the hot top 100.

708
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,700
But I know that when it came out
10 years ago, I looked at all

709
00:39:00,700 --> 00:39:03,700
the individual critics whose
opinions, I find interesting,

710
00:39:03,700 --> 00:39:06,000
not that I agree with.
But that I find interesting to

711
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,900
see, like, what were their tent
So I assumed there are enough

712
00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:13,300
people who might find me,
interesting, they would click on

713
00:39:13,300 --> 00:39:16,000
it and then look at the 10 and
then I would have nine films on

714
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,900
there.
That I felt I wanted at least

715
00:39:18,900 --> 00:39:22,500
the the 12 people who might
click on my name, will watch

716
00:39:22,500 --> 00:39:25,100
these films.
That was my strategies actually,

717
00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:27,500
I love that strategy and I feel
like you could kind of apply

718
00:39:27,500 --> 00:39:29,900
that strategy here.
It's got to be hard to just pick

719
00:39:29,900 --> 00:39:34,700
five movies to direct a silent
film newbie to.

720
00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:39,500
Yeah, this was very stressed.
Well, I was thinking I had a

721
00:39:39,508 --> 00:39:42,800
different, a couple different
five films until I landed on

722
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,200
what I decided to do.
Was you know, like part of me is

723
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,300
like I'm just going to give you
five films that are my favorites

724
00:39:50,300 --> 00:39:53,400
right?
But I tend to like a very

725
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:59,600
distinct time within this period
that I believe we would have

726
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,300
about City Lights.
There was some issue with like

727
00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:06,100
the voting of like this is the
only sign of film I've given.

728
00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:09,600
I can't give it a ten, right?
I don't want to throw people

729
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,200
into the deep end so I threw
that list out.

730
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,400
I was like, this is a specific
kind of film grammar.

731
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,400
It's a specific art is a
specific way of telling stories

732
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,600
telling that you kind of got to
work up to.

733
00:40:22,300 --> 00:40:25,900
So I didn't I didn't want to
throw people and sci-fi films

734
00:40:25,900 --> 00:40:31,100
that are like, you know, physics
12 instead of the physics with

735
00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:33,400
no math.
Kind of, I want to, I want to

736
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,100
work them up to those films.
So, I went with five films that

737
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,700
But assuming you've never seen a
silent film except the

738
00:40:39,700 --> 00:40:42,200
chaplains.
So there's no chaplain on here.

739
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,300
I'm assuming everyone,
listening, watch the chaplains

740
00:40:44,300 --> 00:40:47,700
along with you guys.
What would, what would get you a

741
00:40:47,700 --> 00:40:51,000
good film grammar.
So that if you like these five

742
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,400
films, you will then want to
seek out more that ended up

743
00:40:54,408 --> 00:40:58,200
being my strategy.
Well I mean, I don't think we

744
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,200
should beat around the bush
here.

745
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,200
I made a list of five of mine as
well and I assume that there

746
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,300
will be some overlap especially
hearing you like your strategy

747
00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:08,400
now.
But There's any left over, I

748
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,500
might give those as like,
honorable mentions.

749
00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:13,700
After Mariah does hers, I would
love for you to walk us through

750
00:41:13,700 --> 00:41:18,800
your top five Mariah sir.
So I started with I just this is

751
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,900
where you got to start.
It's a trip to the moon, it's

752
00:41:21,900 --> 00:41:25,500
you you may be familiar with it
if you seen Martin scorsese's

753
00:41:25,700 --> 00:41:30,000
Hugo or the Smashing Pumpkins
music video, although I know

754
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,100
that's the 90s now.
And now that's 30 years old so I

755
00:41:32,107 --> 00:41:35,500
don't know how many people have
seen that video anymore but for

756
00:41:35,500 --> 00:41:39,100
those of you who have You
probably have seen the imagery

757
00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:42,100
from a trip to the moon.
It's a rocket ship on like a

758
00:41:42,107 --> 00:41:47,600
cheese moon with a face.
It's an interesting film because

759
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,800
it is the first sci-fi film.
It is melies.

760
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:58,400
Doing a little bit of of his old
school magician trickery with

761
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:04,600
this new technology, but it's
also a play on French fairy.

762
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:09,800
Tales that was a Stage versions
of fairy, tales was a big thing.

763
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,900
That's why a lot of those early
French silent films are like the

764
00:42:12,900 --> 00:42:17,200
Cabbage Berry and other weird
magic related things.

765
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,200
That was that was that's just
part of French culture but this

766
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,300
is such an influential film.
It's hard to watch it and not

767
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:28,600
see every single other science
fiction space film ever

768
00:42:28,900 --> 00:42:30,200
referencing.
Bits of it.

769
00:42:30,900 --> 00:42:33,000
It's a bit weird.
It's also kind of

770
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,100
Anti-Imperialist which is fun so
you can watch it.

771
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,000
Just for fun.
You can watch it on a very deep

772
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,200
philosophical level.
You can watch it on a deep

773
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,400
literary level or again, you can
just watch it because it is very

774
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:52,500
trippy, very lonely, and is only
13 minutes long, I recommend

775
00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:57,200
finding the lobster films
transfer it is, there was a

776
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,900
hand-painted - found in 1993 and
I believe the lobster films

777
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,900
edition of a trip.
To the moon, is a digitized

778
00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:08,300
version of that.
And so you At that beautiful

779
00:43:08,700 --> 00:43:11,500
early color as well.
And I think it's really

780
00:43:11,500 --> 00:43:13,000
important.
That is how it was supposed to

781
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,400
be seen.
They used to hand paint every

782
00:43:16,700 --> 00:43:19,800
frame, so it wouldn't be exactly
the same everywhere, you know?

783
00:43:19,808 --> 00:43:21,600
Because they would send those
those prints out everywhere.

784
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,600
But that version is the closest
to what Millie has wanted people

785
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,000
to see.
I love it.

786
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,900
Alright, so number five is
Georges méliès a trip to the

787
00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:32,200
moon.
Let's let's hear number four.

788
00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:34,400
Okay.
Number four was My Sight and

789
00:43:34,408 --> 00:43:38,700
Sound was on My Sight and Sound
ballot. 1916, it is Louis

790
00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:44,400
Webber's.
Shoes is a melodrama about a

791
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,800
working.
Not a working girl because that

792
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,900
she's not a sex worker, a woman
who works at a Five and Dime

793
00:43:50,900 --> 00:43:53,700
Store and she supports her
parents and her dad is an

794
00:43:53,707 --> 00:43:57,600
alcoholic and he takes all her
money and she just needs a new

795
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:02,000
pair of shoes and she may find
herself becoming the other kind

796
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,300
of working girl in order to get
a new pair of shoes.

797
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,000
She's but it's really yes but
it's a bit.

798
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,300
Eek, it doesn't necessarily does
not necessarily leave you

799
00:44:11,300 --> 00:44:13,200
thinking like the world is a
great place.

800
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,000
But what's interesting for me
about it, is that lowest Weber

801
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,000
was this filmmaker who saw film
not just as a medium for

802
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,700
entertainment, but a medium for
social change.

803
00:44:24,700 --> 00:44:27,600
And so she made some of her
films are not.

804
00:44:27,900 --> 00:44:30,900
Well, they did not age well,
like she made some Eugenics

805
00:44:30,900 --> 00:44:32,800
films.
You have to mention that because

806
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,900
it's important to know that
that's not good, but some of her

807
00:44:35,900 --> 00:44:40,500
other films that That aren't on
that Line shoes has a movie.

808
00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:44,500
I think that has aged
beautifully and really is about

809
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:47,000
the exploitation of women in the
workforce.

810
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:51,100
And it's got a beautiful
performance from Mary McLaren.

811
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,500
And it's just, it's a gorgeous
film.

812
00:44:53,500 --> 00:44:56,800
And I think a really important
film sounds like a blast.

813
00:44:57,300 --> 00:44:59,900
Yeah, honestly, though, I'm not
familiar with shoes.

814
00:44:59,900 --> 00:45:01,600
This is one that I am going to
have to seek out.

815
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,300
Like, I've never heard of this
movie.

816
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,100
I think it's on Criterion
Channel.

817
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:06,800
Still, okay, have Criterion
channel.

818
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:11,800
It's Definitely on Blu-ray was
part of the quino's pioneers of

819
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,000
our lie silent Cinema set.
I believe and then I think

820
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:18,500
Milestone may have put it out as
well.

821
00:45:18,500 --> 00:45:20,700
So there's a few ways to watch
it.

822
00:45:21,300 --> 00:45:23,700
Awesome.
And I was not the only person

823
00:45:23,700 --> 00:45:25,700
who had it on my Sight and Sound
Bala time.

824
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,500
I think it was, oh, my God, she
writes for New York Times Nola

825
00:45:30,500 --> 00:45:32,500
dargis.
I think she I think she also had

826
00:45:32,500 --> 00:45:35,300
shoes on her science and Bella
and I was like, just two of us

827
00:45:35,300 --> 00:45:36,900
here in Good Company.
There you go.

828
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:38,900
All right.
What's coming in at number

829
00:45:38,900 --> 00:45:40,300
three?
Okay.

830
00:45:40,300 --> 00:45:45,000
Now we 3i as much as I love the
the teens I want us to get into

831
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,300
like the meat of the silent era
which is the 1920s.

832
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:54,000
I also really love John Gilbert.
So I have to have a John Gilbert

833
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,400
film.
This is flesh and the devil.

834
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,400
It's Greta, Garbo, John Gilbert,
Lars Hanson.

835
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,000
I believe I mentioned Barbara
Kent, previously.

836
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,000
Also she's in Lonesome so this
is the second part we can't

837
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,100
film.
It's probably the sexiest silent

838
00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:12,100
film.
I'm at least in the top five

839
00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:14,800
sexiest, silent films, Greta
Garbo.

840
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,500
Literally will eat you alive
with her face in this movie with

841
00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:20,500
her eyes.
Like she's so sexy in this

842
00:46:20,500 --> 00:46:22,000
movie.
It's hard to even think about

843
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,500
it.
John Gilbert also very sexy but

844
00:46:24,500 --> 00:46:26,800
basically, the plot is that
Greta Garbo is so sexy.

845
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,500
That two men almost died.
That's the movie.

846
00:46:29,500 --> 00:46:31,600
Yeah, that's, I mean, it sounds
plausible to me.

847
00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:36,100
That's the movie and it's shot
by Clarence Brown.

848
00:46:36,100 --> 00:46:38,200
Who would go on to the in the
30s.

849
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:43,000
Make some of the best, Garbo and
Joan Crawford movies.

850
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:48,300
So he was a great actress
director and this movie is just

851
00:46:48,700 --> 00:46:51,000
is so So good man, I love these
so far.

852
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,300
All right, let's hear number
two.

853
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,700
Okay, number two, maybe the
first silent film I ever saw my

854
00:46:57,700 --> 00:47:01,900
dad found a copy of it on VHS.
We were out of town.

855
00:47:01,900 --> 00:47:05,100
One time he bought it and he was
so excited because it didn't

856
00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:07,600
used to be on available and he
was like oh my God I remember

857
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,500
this movie from when I was a
kid, not that he was alive when

858
00:47:09,500 --> 00:47:13,100
it came out but I think he saw
it like it's a rerun on TV or

859
00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:15,400
something as a kid.
He's so excited to show it to

860
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,400
us.
It's so good.

861
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:22,300
It's Metropolis.
Topless you can't, you can't go

862
00:47:22,300 --> 00:47:24,300
wrong with a strapless.
Again, it's sci-fi.

863
00:47:24,300 --> 00:47:29,700
It is so influential, not just
on all the music videos, so many

864
00:47:29,700 --> 00:47:34,100
music videos based on this
movie, but you can see it in a

865
00:47:34,100 --> 00:47:41,200
lot of contemporary movies.
The Styling of the city, you can

866
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,800
see it in Blade Runner and so
many other science fiction films

867
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,100
in the last.
Even last couple of years, have

868
00:47:48,100 --> 00:47:50,900
Rift on Metropolis, it has
Brigitte Helm in it.

869
00:47:50,900 --> 00:47:52,500
Who's one of my favorite
actresses?

870
00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:55,200
If you like her in this movie,
you should just watch every

871
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,200
single one of her movies that
are available, because she truly

872
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,100
was one of the great not just
one of the great silent film

873
00:48:01,100 --> 00:48:05,300
actresses, she's one of the
great actresses period and she

874
00:48:05,300 --> 00:48:08,200
was German, but not a Nazi as
soon as Nazi.

875
00:48:08,300 --> 00:48:10,500
He's took over.
She was like bye.

876
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,300
So she's also unproblematic
German.

877
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,100
Yeah, which is it, which is
there's a few where you're like,

878
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,600
oh, you're terrible.
But you're a good actor but he

879
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,400
come good actor and said, you
know, no to the Nazis.

880
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:28,000
So that's great.
It's just, it's a great film.

881
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,600
I don't know what there is to
say about Metropolis that you

882
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,000
then it's so good.
I just am looking at the sum of

883
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:39,900
the the stills from it.
And it reminds me of Batman from

884
00:48:39,900 --> 00:48:43,300
Tim Burton.
Yeah definitely played on it,

885
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:50,900
the Android in, it was Star Wars
fans will be parallels there,

886
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,600
what I will say is there are
basically two versions of

887
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,000
metropolis.
There's a normal metropolis and

888
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,100
there's Giorgio moroder's
Metropolis.

889
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,700
Now, I would suggest watching
normal Metropolis, how Fritz

890
00:49:03,700 --> 00:49:08,900
Lang intended it to be but if
you like it, It's worth watching

891
00:49:08,900 --> 00:49:13,700
the Giorgio moroder especially
if you enjoy 80s like dumb 80s

892
00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:17,100
pop music because it is a
different experience as a

893
00:49:17,107 --> 00:49:20,500
totally different movie, they
had these pop songs like Queen

894
00:49:20,500 --> 00:49:23,500
wrote, some of the songs and
Eurythmics I think is in the red

895
00:49:23,500 --> 00:49:23,900
next.
Yeah.

896
00:49:23,900 --> 00:49:26,800
It's, if you like New Wave
Music, it's like it's not

897
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,800
Metropolis anymore, its own.
There's a reason they call it

898
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:34,000
Giorgio moroder's Metropolis.
It is its own thing at that

899
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,100
point, but I am a fan of it, but
I wouldn't want it to To be your

900
00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:41,300
first way to watch Metropolis.
That makes sense.

901
00:49:41,700 --> 00:49:43,600
So I had never seen Metropolis.
You know.

902
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,500
It's all about a decade ago,
Kino lorber released a Blu-ray

903
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,400
the complete Metropolis.
They finally found like an

904
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,500
existing print of the movie.
Yeah.

905
00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:56,900
Like like like so many of these
stories that it was just like

906
00:49:56,900 --> 00:49:58,600
deteriorating in a back room
somewhere.

907
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,400
They found a complete print of
this movie and no one had ever

908
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,500
seen it.
Like the first time they were

909
00:50:03,500 --> 00:50:06,100
able to piece it all together
and they released it's a

910
00:50:06,107 --> 00:50:08,200
two-and-a-half-hour silent.
Brad.

911
00:50:08,500 --> 00:50:11,700
And like the, the best thing I
can say about it to influence

912
00:50:11,700 --> 00:50:12,600
you, to go.
Watch this movie.

913
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,600
Is it flies by it?
Is like it does.

914
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:20,500
I can't believe this movie is
is, is that long, incredibly

915
00:50:20,500 --> 00:50:23,200
influential movie.
One of my favorite movies of all

916
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,100
time, Metropolis.
Another film, that's very anti,

917
00:50:26,100 --> 00:50:30,700
the man anti taking advantage of
the working class.

918
00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:34,500
Very pro-union Pro like Workers
Unite.

919
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,700
It's really fascinating.
So it's another film that I'll

920
00:50:37,707 --> 00:50:40,500
give you just watch it on the
level of your, you want to watch

921
00:50:40,500 --> 00:50:43,600
a good Sci-Fi, you can do that.
But then, if you want to go

922
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,000
deeper, there's many, many, many
levels to this movie.

923
00:50:47,300 --> 00:50:48,900
All right.
We've got one more left.

924
00:50:48,900 --> 00:50:50,900
I'm anxious to see what your
number one is Mariah.

925
00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:56,000
Taking it back to Comedy.
I can't not mention Buster

926
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,700
Keaton.
I personally I think you should

927
00:50:58,700 --> 00:51:01,600
just watch every Buster Keaton
movie and they are all on

928
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,000
Criterion Channel right now.
But the one that I particularly

929
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:09,300
love is the cameraman only two.
Yes, it's so sweet.

930
00:51:09,300 --> 00:51:11,400
It's one of the best romantic
comedies.

931
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:16,400
He's he's so like, you get
everything in this movie where,

932
00:51:16,500 --> 00:51:18,900
you know, his other films, you
get a little bit of this and a

933
00:51:18,908 --> 00:51:21,200
little bit of that.
And, and they're all cohesive,

934
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,700
because they're all Eaten.
But this one, you really get all

935
00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:26,700
the different facades of what he
does best, which is the physical

936
00:51:26,700 --> 00:51:31,900
comedy, the camera movements,
and the romance, anything he

937
00:51:31,900 --> 00:51:34,500
does Shadow Ball in this too,
which is really fun.

938
00:51:34,900 --> 00:51:37,900
So you get a little baseball if
after thing and there's a cute

939
00:51:37,900 --> 00:51:39,000
monkey.
Yeah.

940
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,500
I mean, that's a selling point.
There's, there's a cute monkey.

941
00:51:42,500 --> 00:51:43,900
It's like, what else do you
need?

942
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,900
So, it's Keaton in Marshall and
day.

943
00:51:46,900 --> 00:51:50,800
And it's just this beautiful
romantic comedy with a little,

944
00:51:51,500 --> 00:51:53,100
with them.
Or chaos towards the end.

945
00:51:53,100 --> 00:51:56,500
Yeah, there's like a riot words
and the monkey is amazing, and

946
00:51:56,900 --> 00:52:00,600
it's just really good.
So, in my list, I wanted to pick

947
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,800
a key and I picked the cameraman
that's always been my favorite

948
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,400
Keaton movie, and I'm so glad
that like in the last 10 years

949
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,100
or so, people have started to
appreciate it on a level that

950
00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:11,000
they didn't.
Before I think again that has a

951
00:52:11,008 --> 00:52:13,300
lot to do with the fact that
it's finally become available

952
00:52:13,300 --> 00:52:14,600
like on Blu-ray.
It's yeah.

953
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,400
Put that one out as well 100%.
Yeah.

954
00:52:18,300 --> 00:52:21,500
If I can add one to the list.
If there's one movie that I

955
00:52:21,500 --> 00:52:24,300
would suggest, Just everyone on
earth needs to watch at some

956
00:52:24,300 --> 00:52:26,700
point.
I stayed up really late one

957
00:52:26,700 --> 00:52:28,100
night.
Brad, I watched this movie

958
00:52:28,100 --> 00:52:30,800
because I knew that it was
regarded as like a classic of

959
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,100
world Cinema.
It rocked my world to the extent

960
00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:38,100
that like, I couldn't sleep that
night and it is the passion of

961
00:52:38,100 --> 00:52:41,400
Joan of Arc.
Oh, yes, it is.

962
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,700
Probably if I was making a list
Brad of like the 10 greatest

963
00:52:44,700 --> 00:52:47,100
films ever made, this is like
maybe in my top five.

964
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:50,600
It is it features the greatest
performance ever put on film.

965
00:52:50,900 --> 00:52:53,500
Yes.
Eddie, she's she's a brilliant

966
00:52:53,500 --> 00:52:55,800
in this absolutely haunting
movie.

967
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,100
The time they had faces then.
Yeah.

968
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,000
Right.
She has so many face.

969
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,700
Yeah, I am.
Like, I'm very sorry to end on a

970
00:53:02,707 --> 00:53:05,100
note where I'm talking about
watching a film.

971
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:09,500
That is literally like a Beat by
beat re-creation of the trial

972
00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:12,700
and death of Joan of Arc.
Damn it.

973
00:53:12,700 --> 00:53:16,700
If that isn't just a perfect
movie, and I hope that that

974
00:53:16,700 --> 00:53:21,600
gives you Brad and like everyone
listening a clearer picture on

975
00:53:22,100 --> 00:53:25,300
The breadth and the depth of
silent film.

976
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,000
We have everything from Harold,
Lloyd and Buster Keaton and

977
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,700
Charlie Chaplin to these
incredible Classics of world

978
00:53:32,700 --> 00:53:36,500
Cinema like Metropolis, that
their influence stretched for

979
00:53:36,500 --> 00:53:41,200
decades, you know, Mariah talked
about Blade Runner and how that

980
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,400
is like.
So clearly based on Metropolis,

981
00:53:44,500 --> 00:53:47,900
I really hope Brad that we've
given you a couple movies to add

982
00:53:47,900 --> 00:53:52,300
to your watch list today.
Yeah, like I said, 11 One movie

983
00:53:52,300 --> 00:53:55,800
a week is not enough for me.
I need to watch more and more

984
00:53:55,800 --> 00:54:00,700
films when Mariah we can't thank
you enough for joining us again.

985
00:54:00,900 --> 00:54:03,300
I know you told us a few weeks
ago when you were here but where

986
00:54:03,300 --> 00:54:07,700
can our listeners find you?
The best place to find me these

987
00:54:07,700 --> 00:54:11,800
days is on sub, stack East, be
very active on Twitter via

988
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,600
Twitter is dying but on sub
stack old film Slicker dotsub

989
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,700
stack.com.
I have my weekly directed by

990
00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:21,800
women viewing guide where I
write about seven films.

991
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,700
Each week to give you a film a
day directed by a woman to

992
00:54:25,700 --> 00:54:28,400
watch.
And I guarantee you I'll never

993
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,800
run out of films.
There are so many and then I

994
00:54:30,808 --> 00:54:34,400
also write a lot about silent
silent film on there as well.

995
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,200
And they're trying to be sort of
a social thing, not just a

996
00:54:38,207 --> 00:54:41,300
newsletter.
So there's like notes where I

997
00:54:41,308 --> 00:54:47,000
occasionally post random things
like photos with quotes that

998
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,800
I've read, while I'm researching
a silent film that no one cares

999
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,100
about.
To try to get people to care.

1000
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,700
So that's, that's really the
best, the best place to find

1001
00:54:57,700 --> 00:54:59,500
everything.
And I also share my writing

1002
00:54:59,500 --> 00:55:03,100
there as well.
Mostly not about silent films.

1003
00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:06,400
I'm tend to be on the bad
romantic comedy beat.

1004
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,800
So, I don't know when this airs.
If I'll have watched another bad

1005
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,800
romantic comedy.
But the thing is, I actually

1006
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,500
love romantic comedies and
that's why I'm so critical on

1007
00:55:15,500 --> 00:55:18,700
the ones coming out today
because they're bad and they

1008
00:55:18,700 --> 00:55:21,600
should be better, should be
better.

1009
00:55:21,900 --> 00:55:25,100
Just because they're out and we
having something doesn't mean

1010
00:55:25,100 --> 00:55:27,400
that it's good.
And that is my that's going to

1011
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:34,600
be my window when you can watch
the camera man like, you know,

1012
00:55:34,900 --> 00:55:36,900
Zell that's that's the best
place to find me.

1013
00:55:36,900 --> 00:55:39,400
Is it?
Bob and I watched way back in

1014
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,500
like, season one or two, When
Harry Met Sally, that's the best

1015
00:55:43,500 --> 00:55:46,600
romantic.
And yes, that's all that needs.

1016
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:51,700
To be said, frankly, dad is the
movie.

1017
00:55:51,900 --> 00:55:55,100
For modern romantic comedies.
Literally like using modern

1018
00:55:55,100 --> 00:55:59,200
technique modern you know
writing modern characterization

1019
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,800
modern, whatever.
That's the that's the rubric and

1020
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,800
it's the reason it's so good.
I'm sorry.

1021
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,800
I'm going to just this is
something outside of home early

1022
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,700
but the reason it's so good.
It's the characters feel like

1023
00:56:09,700 --> 00:56:15,000
real people and what happens
with romantic comedies today is

1024
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:20,300
they take the plastic beads but
they don't craft characters and

1025
00:56:20,300 --> 00:56:23,200
that is why most romantic, huh?
These today are garbage.

1026
00:56:23,500 --> 00:56:26,600
Mmm, that's the final word from
Mariah games.

1027
00:56:28,100 --> 00:56:31,100
All right, everybody, we will be
back on Tuesday with another

1028
00:56:31,100 --> 00:56:35,300
regularly scheduled episode.
But until then I'm Bob book, I'm

1029
00:56:35,300 --> 00:56:37,300
Reggie and we'll see you next
time.