Top Fives: 24-Hour Movies

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Hey everybody.

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Welcome into the film and
whiskey podcast.

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I'm Bob book, I'm Brad G and
we're hanging out at new riff.

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Distillery new riff.
We have crossed the river into

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Kentucky, made it made it all
the way over that.

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Bridge man this is the first
time we've recorded in person in

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a long time so we're in Kentucky
in September.

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Yeah it's been a while man.
We're in between Seasons six and

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seven right now.
Yeah.

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And we're doing a little special
bonus episode because we all see

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food, we received a very special
invitation from our friend, Jay

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ayersman at new riff.
The greatest, the bearded Jason

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here right next to us.
I'll spare the graphic details

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of just exactly how Unbelievably
sexy.

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This beard is it is wearing.
Now just think about Stallone

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and Rambo for Rocky for, sorry.
What kind of movies are we

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talking about Jay?
How are you today?

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I'm all right.
Jay has unmistakably and without

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question.
One of the best voices in the

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world of whiskey.
Yeah, easily.

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Every time he's on the show,
there's a reason he hasn't been

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on in six seasons and it's
because I'm afraid he's gonna

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usurped my Throne ezel every
time he's on.

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Yeah, I mean, we all know that
you have the best.

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Voice on this podcast Bob.
I mean, you know, but Jay if he

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were a regular guest, it would
be closed is more intelligent

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and has a better voice.
It's true.

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So so we're on site at Nur if
we're going to be sampling, some

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Whiskey's today and we're going
to be doing a top 5 episode with

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a really, really killer theme.
This was all Jays idea, you

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know, he is the brainchild of
this podcast horror slasher

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theme killer theme Here, guys.
We're going to be looking at

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Whiskey's that come from the Mm
day of production.

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So we're trying three Bourbons
that were all produced on the

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same day and we're going to be
looking at movies.

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That take place over the course
of one day.

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Those are our top fives, a
twenty four-hour movie.

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Brilliant.
Not I'm so excited.

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Yeah, I'm really excited to Bob.
It is wonderful to be here

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today.
First off, thanks for having us.

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Glad to have you back.
This is Brad's first time at New

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riff.
We've taken a little tour of the

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facility and the, the tour is
apropos to what we're talking

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about here.
Because of the way that they

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distill their bourbon.
All their Whiskey's here at Nur

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if Jay.
Can you tell us a little bit

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more about the process and how
that affects the three Bourbons

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were drinking today?
Sure.

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Thing Bob so at new riff we
have, we have now nine

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fermenters, we expanded a year
ago, just about with nine more

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with seven, eight and nine.
So we have these fermenters and

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in a day's production, we empty
three fermenters and and make

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three matches and fill them back
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So it's three batches a At Nur,
if it doesn't seem like that

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now, because we run in a 24-hour
cycle, not 24/7, but 24 hours.

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So sometimes in a day we
actually put into barrel for but

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conceptually, we always thought
of quote, unquote, a day's

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production as being three
batches and for reasons that

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will explain in a little bit
because of our unique size and

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the layout of the building and
some of the architectural.

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Constraints, we have and so on,
we don't have huge tanks to

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store spirit in.
And so, when we make these three

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batches, we distill a fermenter
and that goes in a Spirits tank,

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we call it the gauge tank and
it's where we gauge the whiskey,

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which is to find out exactly how
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And in terms of alcohol, as well
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So we gauge the whiskey and we
cut it to 110 proof which is are

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barreling, proof, rather low,
barreling proof And put it in

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the barrel and now the tank is
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So then we go into still another
fermenter and we put that in the

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tank, we cut that to 110 proof
and we put that in the barrel.

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So now that one's empty and we
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considered a day's production
and that's differently than the

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way most distilleries run,
especially larger ones than us

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and we are sort of a mid-major
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We make twelve thousand barrels
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We make 40 odd barrels a day.
42, barrels a day.

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Which is no small bit of
production.

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I mean, it's healthy a little
bit of whiskey.

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It's a little bit of whiskey,
but we're still in many other

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ways small.
And so these tanks, only hold

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the output of one fermentation.
Well, one if we could one batch

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which is about 12 to 14 barrels
and most distilleries, don't

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really operate that way.
They have a much larger tank

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that they send their Spirits
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They call it a cistern tank and
they distill a fermenter and it

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goes in the cistern tank, and
they distilled another

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fermenter, and that goes in the
tank.

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They distill three more from
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The tank is as big as your house
and eventually they start

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cutting that down to proof and
putting it into the barrel.

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What they've done is
homogenized, any differences

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between all those different
fermenters that they ran off and

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For Better or Worse, we don't
run that way.

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That's a super smart way for
those distilleries to operate

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because it builds a lot of
consistency into what's going

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into the barrel.
We're small enough that we just

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can't have these huge tanks so
we do not homogenize the flavor

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of each batch.
And we preserve to a much larger

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degree than most places, the
individual character of each

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fermentation.
And the truth is, we know each

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fermentation each given batch.
I mean, I don't mean the tank

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itself, like tank number one,
has a sweet flavor, that's not

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it at all, but each given batch
can have a unique character, a

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particular character.
And we know that because we

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taste all 12 to 14 barrels of
each batch.

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So he takes the 13 barrels out
of that fermentation, and it's

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generally sweet.
And the next one is generally

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Dry the next one, might be
spicy.

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The next one might be Smoky what
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For years later when we're
making single barrels, we

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present to the consumer.
A product that not only captures

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the flavor of that particular
piece of wood, you know, that

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particular Barrel, that that
influence that, that whiskey,

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and also the character of where
that Barrel was stored in the

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warehouse.
Was it high?

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Was it LO, was it sitting in the
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Things like that.
But we also offer them this

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fermentation character, and The
result is that new riff single

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Barrels have got a tremendous
range of flavor so much so that

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if somebody sample just a newer
single barrel and and they don't

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really like sweet whiskey and
that one happened to be a really

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dry tasting patch.
They might finally a bourbon,

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that's not too sweet and they
try the next one and it is sweet

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and now they're upset.
I'm sorry, that could happen.

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If you do your whiskey consumer,
please buy the bottled in bond

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from new riff.
But our single barrels can have

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a tremendously variable.
Character to them, that captures

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that, as a whiskey nerd, whiskey
lover.

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I find that fun.
I find it fascinating.

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Fascinating, I wouldn't have it
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So it's always, you know,
intrigued me to compare the

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difference between a day's
production.

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And, of course, I've tasted
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them and certainly tasted many
different days, but I've never

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sat down like this, to do it,
with some other people to do, it

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sort of analytically, and to
have some fun with it.

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So, when you go into something
like this, like a days,

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Production is the intent.
Usually, these are these are

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intended for single barrels or
they could end up as bottled in

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bond.
They could end up batch

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together, like, you know, not
necessarily these three that are

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in front of us.
But like what would the intent

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be when you sit down with
multiple samples from a day's

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production?
Well, we analyze each batch and,

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and and taste each batch.
We actually sample and analyze

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damn near every Peril.
It is, people say all the time,

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I want that job, you know.
Are you hiring, buddy?

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You don't want to be hired for
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It is actually really difficult
and exhausting work, but we got

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to do it.
I'm saying that without an ounce

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of facetiousness.
Yeah.

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You know, it's, it is, it is
fun.

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But it's very taxing.
So we do sample, almost all of

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them and determine is this
Barrel fit for a single barrel.

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And when I say fit, I don't mean
that the best of the best all go

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to the single barrels, we're
really looking for, obviously a

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good.
Distant quality across the

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entire sample and experience.
But also for something unique,

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you know, does that Barrel?
That batch what's got?

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So we have to save some of those
to become our bottled in bond,

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which is made from a batching
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If you will of about 25 to 30,
maybe 20 to 30 barrels and then

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we also hold back about twenty
to thirty percent of everything

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we make to become older.
And so that's another future

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life.
For these Whiskey's.

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Which, which of them do we hold
back, but we don't go into it

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saying.
This batch is all going to go

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single.
That's not really it at all,

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from a given batch.
We probably cut it up about

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three different ways.
Plenty of it goes to bottled and

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bond.
Some of it will go to single

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barrel production and some will
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I'm curious.
Jay, do you feel like in the, in

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the world of the whiskey
consumer, it seems to me, like,

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people have been slowly moving
away from the more established

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Brands and just venturing out
into The wild west of craft

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distilleries and everything
that's going on out there.

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Where do you feel like new riff
is positioned in there.

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Where like you said, you're kind
of a mid-major producer.

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You're not just some tiny craft
Distillery but you're also

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diving into that a little bit
more experimental, a little more

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variety of flavor that you would
get from a place like that.

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Right.
Good question Brad.

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Well we don't really conceive of
ourselves as as craft whatever

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that means.
Yeah, we have much more in

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common with the Four Roses of
the world than we do.

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You know a guy in a shack with a
pot, still cranking It Out by

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hand and things like that field
but it must act now it was that

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the guy in the gal in the shack
with the pot still that did did

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play a huge inspiration in us.
You know, it's building new riff

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and creating it undoubtedly, had
it not been for the the craft

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distilling wave in the in.
The early 2000s.

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So we always thought we have
first of all, such inspiration

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and such a legacy of great
whiskey producing and Kentucky

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behind us generations of people
that made this industry what it

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is.
And we never think that we're

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just going to supplant all that
whatsoever.

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That was our inspiration.
I love it easily.

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One of the best looking bottles.
Thank you.

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My gosh.
Every time I see it I'm like

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that transition from the matte
black to the here's the thing,

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Packaging.
Matters it really.

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I don't care what anybody says
and you know, we've, we've

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talked to a wide range of people
on this podcast and sometimes

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people that are very
traditionalists.

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And, and purists will say that,
like, anything that's in a

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flashy looking package, is just
a gimmick and it's all marketing

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and no packaging matters.
Yeah, and you know, the thing I

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love about new riff is it's one
of the few that we found where

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the packaging is as striking as
what's inside of the bottle.

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Yep.
All right, Brad.

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It is time for us to talk
movies.

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We're going to go to a quick
break.

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When we come back, we'll be
breaking.

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I'm down our top 5. 24-hour
movies.

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What do you say?
Let's get to it.

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All right, Brad, it's time for
us to break down our top 5

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movies that take place in the
course of a day.

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Hmm, this was kind of a hard
list to make because, you know,

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we've watched a lot of movies
that take place in real time.

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So like a, you know, an hour and
a half log movie, that is

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supposed to be 90 minutes long,
right?

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And I'm thinking of a really fun
little movie from like the early

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2000s called phone booth that
I'm really operates that way.

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I didn't choose a movie like
that.

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I wanted a movie where like
sunup to sundown.

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Yeah, was for Most part the
central conceit of the movie.

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And I think I've got a pretty
good list, how you feel about

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your list, great Trio, life
right up there.

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Now he gets about the entire
creation but liver days of

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creation.
Yeah, that's what you wanted.

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All right, Brad.
Why don't you kick us off here?

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Jay actually has just one movie.
He wants to talk about.

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He said, forget your top fives
does movie is as good as five

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films.
That's right.

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That's all I'll kick in with a
couple of them.

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Please do you guys may not.
Cover or more to the point

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include a couple that I love and
they're really great movies and

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blah blah blah but wouldn't
inform or Echo.

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What we have learned about new
riffs day of production.

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Are you guys there's a movie out
there that that I thought did so

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it was a very bad day.
Alright.

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Yeah, Dog Day Afternoon, that's
a man.

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Don't get too far ahead, doesn't
get much better than that.

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Alright so my number five, this
is honestly based a little more

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Memory then on having watched
the film recently, but I

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remember watching The Taking of
Pelham 123 in, probably the mid

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2000s.
I was probably a mid teenage

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years.
Are you talking the remake or

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the original, the Johnny
Travolta and Zell Washington?

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I just remember that movie being
incredibly suspenseful.

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Yeah.
And some great action in it,

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that movie is really underrated
and you know, people have really

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come around on the original.
It's got In a recent re-release

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in 4k and people have been, you
know, praising the original from

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the 70s, I loved the Remake, I
thought they know, it's a Tony

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Scott movie who's a director
that I want to do on the podcast

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at some point.
But I really really love that

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movie.
Yeah, it's especially with a

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very hammy, John Travolta
villain performance.

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Yep.
Like it does not get much better

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than that and Denzel being that
ends up being Denzel.

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So, yeah, that is my number
five.

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My number five is a movie from
1995.

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And the start of a Trilogy that
is really beloved in film

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circles from the director,
Richard linklater, it's a movie

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called Before Sunrise.
I love this movie, does the

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whole movie happened before
state does?

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Yeah, so it's about Ethan,
Hawke's character is an American

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overseas in Europe and he's kind
of like one of these movies,

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like a snooty college kid.
Mmm, and he meets Julie delpy.

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He's character who's a French
girl who's also traveling and

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they just spend an evening
walking around the streets of

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some European city.
And falling in love.

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And what I love about that movie
is Ethan.

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Hawke's character is so
obviously like 22 years old.

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Yeah.
And he knows everything about

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the world and he thinks he's
being super deep and

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philosophical and then you know
not to spoil everything.

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But the second film in the
trilogy happens, like, I don't

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know, seven years later.
And now before long now they're

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30, it's called Before Sunrise
Before Sunset and then before

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midnight or the three movies, do
they die in the third one?

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I broke.
Um, You're just the worst

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Before.
Sunrise is my number if I film

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right.
Hit us with your number four.

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Yeah, number four is a film.
We just did recently in season.

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Six collateral.
Oh nice.

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Famously takes place in one
evening.

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Yeah yeah five stops five stops
five deaths.

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Quite a few more than five
minutes.

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It wouldn't be a film in whiskey
episode of Brad.

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Did not get the chance to talk
about Tom Cruise.

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Tom Cruise is the reason we
still have Cinema, so had a

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podcast, a pair, and a podcast.
So that's all I'm going to say

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there is something to that.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, if not for

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top gun Maverick we wouldn't be
here.

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We wouldn't know.
Not hyperbole, none of us.

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We'd all be dead.
And I mean, I guess that's a

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perfect segue.
I think we should Dive Right

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into these three samples.
We've poured them all out in

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front of us, we know nothing
about them Brad.

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Other than that, they were
distilled on the same day.

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I was in and they're from new.
Or if they're from new riff.

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So J.
We are in your hands.

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Can you walk us through these
samples?

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Sure.
So we have in front of us, three

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samples that were distilled.
We're Puttin the barrel, but

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probably distilled on December
9th, 2018.

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So these turned for back in
December and they are part of

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our Single Barrel selection
barrels right now.

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So some some Lucky Soul will
come along and and find a Made

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in one of these barrels and take
it home to their store or their

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restaurant, or their borrow
whatever.

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So, or their home literally.
We sell private perils to, to

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the public as well.
Sell a lot of those.

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So, on the top of the, of the
little bottle, here, I have

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written down the lot code.
This is the federal

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government's, preferred code for
how we refer to a batch.

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It's called 18l 09 and that
translates to 18 the year 2018.

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Mean, l is the month, December?
Okay?

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It's okay.
ABCD a is January 18, L 09, of

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course, 18 lo9 is the is the
ninth of that month.

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So we have 18l 09:18 lo9 a and
18l 09b and respectively.

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Those Barrel numbers are one
five, five, three, five, one

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five, five, zero one, five,
five, six, six.

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Be on the lookout.
Yeah.

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You hit your retail stores here
in the next few years.

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I guess.
No, sir, I need to see the

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number of the barrel, please.
Well, it's on there on

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single-barrel someday someone
will find this.

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So what we have here is is and I
tasted these earlier so I can

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vouch for them all.
I didn't go necessarily

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selecting a day with wildly
different character.

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In all three batches that would
have been finding.

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It was hard enough to find this.
It took about 20 minutes.

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But it would be really tough to
find two intent.

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Fully find a day that that had
they did.

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In fact, have wildly different
care.

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I want a smoky one, Anna, sweet
one, and a dry one.

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But we run across this kind of
days and on any given day, any

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again, any given batch can have
particular character.

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So with that in mind.
Let's let's start just by nosing

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them.
One, two, three really beautiful

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I.
So I'd let it sit for about 5-10

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minutes here and I just knows it
as is.

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And it was just really deep
brown sugar and I mean, it was a

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classic bourbon nose with
absolutely no ethanol burn on

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the nose whatsoever.
It was almost like really fresh

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post rain water, like it smelled
fresh, and I gave it a little

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agitated, it a little bit, I
swirl it around and then these

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really beautiful floral notes
came out the spice.

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Came back a little bit.
I almost get like a little wisp

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of Dill on the end of this two.
Agates just really, really

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beautiful.
Yeah, for me, it wasn't

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necessarily Dale.
As a little bit minty, almost

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like a sweet mint mixed with
like a buttered popcorn.

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Like I think that this is a
really buttery almost creamy

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type of nose here.
Those herbal notes.

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You're describing.
I would certainly a tribute to

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the Rye in our whiskey, and it's
a high rhyme Asheville, 30% r.

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I so there can definitely be a
And herbaceousness coming from

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deal.
Sometimes and mint in particular

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is common, especially common in
our rye whiskey, which is 95% R.

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I5 % Malta dry.
So that is a very spicy meatball

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of a whiskey and mint and not
like peppermint or or Altoids or

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toothpaste or something.
But more of a floral herbaceous

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like Wintergreen spearmint
possibly crossing over into

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things like sassafras or
Sarsaparilla people.

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Sometimes Say, hey, remember
those root beer candies, we ate

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when we were kids, a little root
beer barrels like that, it can

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sometimes virgin to that kind of
a flavor from the Rye.

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Yeah, and even as I give that
number one, A Taste oh-ho, man,

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the Rye is just at the right
amount where you get the brown

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sugar, the caramel like I said
almost like a buttery salty

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popcorn but that that
herbaceousness comes through the

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rice spices there on the back
end Jay.

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That's an incredible whiskey.
I will say this is like, you

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know, Brad is the Rye Drinker of
the two of us.

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I'm the bourbon guy and I prefer
my Bourbons to be like, let's be

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frank here.
Like sickly sweet.

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I love a sweet permit.
Brad likes, his really strong

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ride punch on a bourbon and this
one definitely tips on the

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flavor, you know the Palin into
the right like it has the

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bourbon sweetness at the front
of the palate and then the mint

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and the Rye really take over
towards the back of the palette.

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For me.
It's really beautiful but it

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definitely has a spice to it.
Yeah.

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Are there any other tasting
notes on number one that you

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think we may have missed here?
Oh, I think you pretty much

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covered it for me.
The fascinating part is

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comparing these three and seeing
how, you know, an analogy I use

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sometimes is like a mixing
board.

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You guys are recorded on a
guitar player on the I'm a

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recorder also.
We deal with mixing board and

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you push the faders up and
things like that.

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These have broadly similar
characters.

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I don't think there's anything
in here that stands out like a

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sore thumb like the I And the
Smoky flavor truly there is like

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one in about, I don't know, 20,
18 or 20.

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If we sit down and taste, you
know, a month or a month and a

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half production, we eventually
run across a smoky batch and I

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do not know why it gets smoked,
it's not the barrel.

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It is not the barrel or else any
given Barrel would have some,

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some percentage chance of being
a smoky one.

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Know, it's something in the damn
fermentation and I can't imagine

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what it is see.
That's that's what I just love

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about.
Whiskey.

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Yeah, like, I have at this
point, we have talked to people

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from so many different
distilleries all across the

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Spectrum from owners to
distillers to everything and

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nobody has an answer.
As to why this isn't a science,

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it is a science.
It like the funny thing is, you

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could break this down on the
molecular level and say, like,

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oh this has the presence of this
many different types of things

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in it, that this one doesn't.
And, yeah, there's no explaining

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how it got that.
How it got exactly.

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And that's the Part for me where
I'm like, yes, it's a science,

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but it's not a mystery, it's an
art and it's a mystery and I

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love that.
Well, you're talking about

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smokiness and honestly that
segues me into number 2 here

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because if I can go down memory
lane for a minute Brad, you

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know, that I got up.
I grew up Catholic, you should I

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was an altar, server, fails and
snarls, baby bells and smell for

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a number of years.
I was, you know, donning, the

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white robe.
And were you an altar boy?

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I was.
Yeah, yeah.

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This you serving me or so much
of like, the combo of freshly

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washed like white linens.
Uh-huh.

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And freshly extinguished church,
candle wax.

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Like, it has like a wax Enos and
like a extinguished Wick to it.

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There's a smokiness to this.
That is like, I feel weird

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because I'm drinking whiskey,
but I'm also remembering being,

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like, 10 years old.
So it's very conflicted.

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You just feel like your soul,
I'm sitting pun hardcore right

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now.
Yeah, I was at, hey, If there's

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anybody who doesn't drink in the
Christian world, it's the

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Protestants not the Catholics.
Yeah, this one.

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It has a real again, once again,
it's a clean scent to it.

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Yeah, we use these words
sometimes, then, I like that,

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they're more evocative than they
are descriptive.

447
00:23:32,700 --> 00:23:35,400
But, you know, Brad, when we
drink Irish whiskey, we always

448
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,500
use the word bright.
Get reminds us of citrus and

449
00:23:37,500 --> 00:23:41,200
melon.
This one has like a very clean.

450
00:23:41,300 --> 00:23:43,400
Your word of linen.
Yeah, it was perfect.

451
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,100
Absolutely.
Yeah.

452
00:23:44,100 --> 00:23:48,000
Like like a freshly laundered
and not like an old old teachers

453
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,100
on Like already new freshly
laundered.

454
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,400
It's incredible.
We're breaking down, like the,

455
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,200
the level of cotton versus rayon
Jay.

456
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,400
How about you?
What are you getting on this

457
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,900
one?
Yeah, I appreciate your comments

458
00:24:00,900 --> 00:24:03,200
of wax.
That's a waxing us.

459
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:09,100
That that is probably a an
alarming or striking word that

460
00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:12,300
many people would run car wax.
What are they?

461
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,700
It comes from.
A place of sort of lanolin, I

462
00:24:16,700 --> 00:24:21,400
often not often, but but I use
that term in my own notes, both

463
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,000
a lot for Scotch but also
certainly for and for some wines

464
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,900
chenin Blanc, for example, but I
have written that down many

465
00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:30,500
times in a new riff tasting
note.

466
00:24:30,500 --> 00:24:34,100
This waxy quality in a lovely
way?

467
00:24:34,700 --> 00:24:39,200
Beeswax often in fact sometimes
the if our barrels pick up a

468
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,200
sort of specifically honey ish
characteristic, it often he's

469
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,000
not just honey, but honeycomb
and the intersection of

470
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,700
something waxy.
The bees have made, as well as

471
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,700
as the honey itself.
It's maybe a little bit sweeter

472
00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:56,000
than one but how interesting
that it.

473
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,500
It's not drastically.
I think it's a little bit

474
00:24:58,500 --> 00:25:00,500
sweeter.
You're the sweet tooth here.

475
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:06,700
Bob you tell me but but but also
sweeter in a different way than

476
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,300
than number one.
You know the funny thing is

477
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,500
you're talking about the science
and the things that interest you

478
00:25:11,500 --> 00:25:13,900
with this, I'm always really
interested in the way that the

479
00:25:13,900 --> 00:25:17,300
ethanol presents itself because
I imagine that these have to be

480
00:25:17,300 --> 00:25:19,100
very similar.
Our proof points.

481
00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:21,000
I don't know exactly what proof
these are all sitting at.

482
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,800
But number two, the ethanol was
just much more forward and the

483
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,800
mouthfeel was like I could tell
that the the alcohol really

484
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,300
presented itself.
More on the pallet for me, it

485
00:25:30,300 --> 00:25:34,400
was kind of that more thin
alcohol forward mouthfeel.

486
00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:36,900
The number one was more,
definitely more syrupy more

487
00:25:36,900 --> 00:25:38,300
viscous for me.
I don't know.

488
00:25:38,300 --> 00:25:39,000
What are you getting on this
one?

489
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,700
Brad.
I think that Jay is you were

490
00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:42,300
talking about it being a little
bit sweeter.

491
00:25:42,300 --> 00:25:44,300
I'm with you.
It almost to me is like a

492
00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:49,100
bubblegum kind of sweet and and
similar like with Not just the

493
00:25:49,100 --> 00:25:52,000
flavor but with the wax Enos of
it.

494
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:58,000
Like it almost kind of reminds
me of like Major League Chew or

495
00:25:58,100 --> 00:26:02,500
is is out there.
The the rope that you would get

496
00:26:02,500 --> 00:26:05,500
in the little thing, we're
Children of the 90s so you've

497
00:26:06,500 --> 00:26:08,900
made to skip ahead to number
three, but this was going to be,

498
00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:11,800
I was going to blow all of your
minds and it was going to be by

499
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,900
saying this, you're welcome, I
had nosed all three of these

500
00:26:14,900 --> 00:26:17,900
even if we hadn't tasted them
yet and the consistent thing I

501
00:26:17,900 --> 00:26:21,400
got On all three of these.
Was that powdery pink bubblegum

502
00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:23,500
that you open up bubble tape.
Yep.

503
00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:25,600
Pull yourself out.
Some of them, there's a bubble

504
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,100
gum especially on number three
when we get that on the nose,

505
00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:31,400
that is like unmistakable.
Yeah, yeah.

506
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,100
I think that I'm getting that a
lot on the palate of number two.

507
00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:38,600
Yeah, and I guess we can go
ahead and jump into number 3

508
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,500
here.
This one is kind of The Best of

509
00:26:40,500 --> 00:26:43,400
Both Worlds of one and two it
has some of those more classic

510
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,400
bourbon notes on the nose.
That one had a little bit

511
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,100
brighter, a little bit cleaner
on the nose reminiscent of

512
00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:52,100
number two and then it's got
some bubble gum.

513
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,400
Yeah, you know.
Yeah.

514
00:26:53,500 --> 00:26:55,900
No number three is incredible.
I think it is a little bit of a

515
00:26:55,908 --> 00:26:59,200
mixture for me.
I do get a little more of the

516
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,800
the traditional caramel that
you're getting from from most

517
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,800
Bourbons.
Whereas the first two had a

518
00:27:04,808 --> 00:27:08,400
little more unique Twist on.
That this one feels like a

519
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:14,100
really rich classic bourbon, but
as you were saying Jay like

520
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:16,800
being from the same day, you
know, three different batches.

521
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,100
It feels like there's a similar
Earnest there that you just

522
00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:22,100
don't see on a lot of other
whiskeys.

523
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:27,600
Yeah, there is some commonality
between them all I think.

524
00:27:27,700 --> 00:27:31,000
And yet the the again the the
faders, the sliders of the

525
00:27:31,008 --> 00:27:33,900
mixing board are moving around
the EQ.

526
00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:37,300
Curve, you know, this one's got
You know, the scoop out the

527
00:27:37,300 --> 00:27:39,700
mid-range but it's got more
high-end.

528
00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:43,100
And so on speaking in musical
terms, and that's even without,

529
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,500
I don't think we've gotten into
adding water to these but that

530
00:27:46,500 --> 00:27:50,800
will, of course shift and bring
out additional flavors.

531
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,000
That's when people have been
asking me for 20 plus years back

532
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,200
to my days as a retailer at the
store next door.

533
00:27:58,300 --> 00:28:00,800
How should I drink?
How do you think we should drink

534
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,200
our whiskey?
And I've been telling them all

535
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,200
that time.
Drink it.

536
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,600
Anyway, you want?
Just buy it from me.

537
00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:08,100
That's it.
I tell them.

538
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,900
I drink it with a little water
especially when it's a nun.

539
00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:15,100
Chill filtered whiskey like new
riff is, but here I actually

540
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,000
appreciate.
I think tasting them initially

541
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,000
and I always add water to my new
riff whiskey, but I haven't here

542
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,600
today.
And I think it's instructive to

543
00:28:22,608 --> 00:28:26,100
just try them, sort of prima
facie, you know.

544
00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:29,500
Right on the face of it without
getting into the variables, that

545
00:28:29,500 --> 00:28:31,300
other flavors can come out with
water.

546
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,000
Let's just compare them straight
up.

547
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,300
The reason.
They're so harmonious at Barrel

548
00:28:36,300 --> 00:28:37,600
proofing, these are bear-proof
samples.

549
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:38,700
I pulled them right out of the
barrel.

550
00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:42,100
Myself just a few hours ago.
They go in the barrel.

551
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:44,700
As I said, at 110 proof for
years later.

552
00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:50,000
They, they are up a little bit
improved, maybe to 113, 114 or

553
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,500
down to maybe, 107 108.
Let's just call these about

554
00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:56,600
110-proof.
They're very tractable, very

555
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,400
approachable, straight up.
What you never get with a new

556
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,600
riff.
Single Barrel is 139 proof, too

557
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,900
strong to bring it on an
airplane.

558
00:29:04,900 --> 00:29:08,800
Proof that kind of Right?
Which people groove on that and

559
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,200
it's may be fun.
It's also hard to drink

560
00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:17,600
obstreperous just very
obnoxiously strong whiskies and

561
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,700
when people don't add water to
that.

562
00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:24,400
Now they're really facing down
some, some some stiff, drink and

563
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,100
hours are very approachable.
If you do want to have a, an

564
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:31,700
experience like this, which I
would add, and here's my

565
00:29:31,700 --> 00:29:34,600
ulterior motive of selling, some
more bottles of new riff.

566
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,200
But when you're buying out there
in the world, World, a single

567
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,500
barrel of new riff.
See if the store has got two

568
00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:43,400
single barrels, see if there's
22 bottles on that shelf, with

569
00:29:43,500 --> 00:29:46,400
with different numbers, with,
with different numbers

570
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,100
especially that are well apart
from each other.

571
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:54,100
If you if you find bear 100 and
bear 150 you can be assured.

572
00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:58,400
Those are from different Lots or
too fast or has got new riff

573
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,900
Single Barrel as well as their
Barrel selection.

574
00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:05,900
Please buy a bottle of each but
you compare them and you're

575
00:30:05,900 --> 00:30:09,000
getting Again, not just the
difference between the barrels,

576
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,700
you're getting a window into the
fermentation and that I just

577
00:30:13,700 --> 00:30:15,100
don't know of any place else
again.

578
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:17,500
We didn't plan it this way.
Serendipitously!

579
00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:19,700
That's how these come out and
we're not going to change it

580
00:30:19,700 --> 00:30:21,700
now.
We're not going to put in a huge

581
00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:23,400
tanks.
We can mix up all our Bourbon

582
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,600
and get rid of all this
inconsistency.

583
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,300
It's a beautiful inconsistency.
And we again, I haven't done

584
00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:32,000
this before.
So really thank you guys for

585
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,600
coming.
And yeah, kind of pushing me to

586
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,300
do this.
No why?

587
00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:39,600
Hey, You for offering us this
little, you know, slice of a day

588
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,000
in the life of new riff.
But what are your takeaways the

589
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,800
expert here on new riff from
December 9th, 2018?

590
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,500
Well, I wish I could reply with
some scientific certainty of

591
00:30:51,508 --> 00:30:53,400
what was going on as we were
discussing earlier.

592
00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:55,500
I don't know what the hell
happened on the other day.

593
00:30:55,500 --> 00:30:58,400
Like, like most days of
production at new riff, it was a

594
00:30:58,408 --> 00:31:02,500
good day in the words of that
Immortal, Bard Ice Cube.

595
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:11,900
It was a good day.
My number for film is 1973

596
00:31:12,300 --> 00:31:16,500
George, Lucas, American
Graffiti, who I love this movie,

597
00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:19,200
man.
It is, there's something about

598
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:24,500
the Shag Enos of it and it's
just a hangout movie where

599
00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:28,100
people are making big decisions
in their lives, but it just has

600
00:31:28,100 --> 00:31:31,800
the feel of any other night in a
small town in California in the

601
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,600
early 60s.
Licorice, pizza borrowed a lot

602
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,400
from that movie.
The opening credits are

603
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,000
literally ripped from America.
Graffiti and I love that it has

604
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,900
the same kind of flow and Rhythm
to it it's a movie that I really

605
00:31:43,900 --> 00:31:45,300
really want us to get around to
watching.

606
00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:49,200
Soon does American Graffiti is
that the Cherry Bomb seen that

607
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,100
in licorice pizza?
Then happens in American

608
00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:52,000
Graffiti to.
Yep.

609
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,100
Yeah, that's my number for nice
j.i.

610
00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:57,000
You said you might have a few
extra movies to throw in there

611
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,900
with it was there.
Actually, I would chime in on

612
00:31:59,900 --> 00:32:02,500
American Graffiti.
I didn't really seriously

613
00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:06,500
consider that.
Although as I Googled, you know,

614
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,200
films that take place.
Some 24 hours.

615
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,000
Yep, that was on the list and I
thought, yeah, there's a four.

616
00:32:13,700 --> 00:32:15,400
So a new Riff on an old
tradition.

617
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,800
Our Mantra on the back of the
bottle of new riff and that

618
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,800
that's the old tradition that's
the Halcyon Days Of Youth.

619
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:28,400
And and what we grew up with and
the past and and glorifying and

620
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,600
and remembering in sepia toned
lenses and so on that that that

621
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,300
that era and the past, and that
might have been fun but that's

622
00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:39,400
not That's only half of new
riff, right?

623
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,500
Yeah, we need we need a new Riff
on an old tradition.

624
00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:47,200
So so no I wasn't going to go
for American Graffiti, but great

625
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,300
choice.
Well, thank you.

626
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,600
I feel like that was kind of a
backhanded compliment Jay.

627
00:32:53,300 --> 00:32:55,800
You did.
All right there, Bob wouldn't be

628
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,500
my choice but good job.
What's Your Number 3?

629
00:32:58,500 --> 00:32:59,900
Brad.
My number three.

630
00:32:59,900 --> 00:33:04,000
I'm actually going to hold off
on because I would hate.

631
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,500
That's right to do the wrong
thing.

632
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,100
Brad's number three is Empire.
That's yeah I don't want to

633
00:33:09,108 --> 00:33:11,500
steal his thunder so I will go
ahead and do my number three I

634
00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:13,800
think I don't want to steal your
thunder Bob.

635
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,700
My number three is Dog Day
Afternoon a movie that Brad she

636
00:33:18,700 --> 00:33:22,800
famously loves ya and has no
qualms with whatsoever, not a

637
00:33:22,808 --> 00:33:27,800
single one, it is truly one of
the better you know suspenseful

638
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,800
films that take place over the
course of a day.

639
00:33:29,900 --> 00:33:32,600
Bob, when I have an issue with
movies, it's usually not that I

640
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,700
don't like the movie, like, I
like Sunday afternoon.

641
00:33:34,700 --> 00:33:37,200
Yeah, big movie.
Yeah, it's when you give 10 out

642
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:42,100
of 10, When two movies that I'm
like Eternal Sunshine of the

643
00:33:42,108 --> 00:33:44,500
Spotless, Mind is not a 10/10
film.

644
00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:47,800
It's not, it's a 9.5.
Did you ever feel like you

645
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,700
overcorrect to like, try to make
the average score?

646
00:33:51,700 --> 00:33:53,300
Be closer to what you think it
should be?

647
00:33:53,300 --> 00:33:56,000
No, you do that?
I absolutely, I know you do

648
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,300
that.
Absolutely?

649
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,200
No.
I try to be pretty accurate with

650
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,300
my, all right, my scoring Dog
Day Afternoon.

651
00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:03,500
You'd still sitting at like a
seven and a half on that one.

652
00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:06,800
Yeah, I'd have to go back and
revisit it but it was, it was

653
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,400
good.
It was in Paris, we We'll put.

654
00:34:10,699 --> 00:34:12,500
All right.
That takes us to our number two

655
00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:16,100
picks Brad where you sit at
number two, my number-two pick

656
00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:18,500
is a another film that we did on
the podcast.

657
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,400
It's High Noon.
High Noon, a great.

658
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,199
See, that's a real time movie.
Yeah.

659
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:27,800
It's like this movie takes place
in 85 minutes or something.

660
00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:30,000
And it's I think it's 87,
something like that.

661
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,699
It's just an incredible film and
it really ratchets up the

662
00:34:34,699 --> 00:34:35,600
tension to.
Yeah.

663
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,800
When it finally hits noon, It.
I mean like the orc.

664
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,400
I remember that scene where, you
know, the clock, strikes noon,

665
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,300
the orchestra, kind of swells.
There's like this big booming

666
00:34:46,300 --> 00:34:49,000
beat in the background and then
you get that wonderful shot of

667
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,400
Gary Cooper just walking out
into the empty Street and you

668
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,900
get that crane shot.
That pulls all the way up and

669
00:34:55,900 --> 00:34:58,500
the entire town is deserted.
I'm getting chills when he's by

670
00:34:58,500 --> 00:35:01,200
himself.
Yeah it is crushing.

671
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:03,700
Yeah, the movie.
So perfectly balances, the

672
00:35:03,700 --> 00:35:07,800
suspenseful with, I mean the
crushing yeah, I do I'm really

673
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,100
know a better word for it.
Yeah.

674
00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:14,500
The the way that they set him up
to be such an incredible man and

675
00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:16,400
everybody knows it.
Hmm.

676
00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:21,300
But nobody's going to help him.
Yeah, I love that movie.

677
00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:25,900
My number two pick is actually
Brad's number one, pick only.

678
00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:28,600
So we're down to only three
films to discuss.

679
00:35:28,700 --> 00:35:32,200
Yeah, all of our number ones.
I've been sitting on yours for a

680
00:35:32,207 --> 00:35:33,500
minute here.
So why don't you reveal your

681
00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:34,500
number one?
Yeah.

682
00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:38,900
My number one is 12 Angry Men.
It's a perfect choice, man.

683
00:35:39,100 --> 00:35:42,000
It's a perfect movie.
Bob like, it's just so good.

684
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:46,500
Hey, it's the 90-minute movie
category, right?

685
00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:50,100
It's in its out its sharp.
It doesn't spend any extra time

686
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:53,300
doing.
Anything frivolous be its Henry,

687
00:35:53,300 --> 00:35:59,100
Fonda being the most convincing
human being that's ever existed

688
00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:02,400
in film one of your favorite
notes to give on performances.

689
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,700
You like is Ernest.
Yeah, and that man is just since

690
00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:07,500
yeah sincere.
Yeah, exactly.

691
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,200
What sincere can see completely
Earnest?

692
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,100
Like the way the way that he
just keeps going but could it be

693
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:15,800
possible?
Yeah, when he's when he's

694
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:20,200
talking about the the 40 or 50
feet down the hallway and he's

695
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,500
like, it was 100 out what time's
it out.

696
00:36:22,500 --> 00:36:24,200
He was like you have to be
sprayed.

697
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,600
This is a doubt it man.
It's a great movie.

698
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,500
My number one is do the right
thing.

699
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,200
I mean I think my number three
do the thing.

700
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:36,500
Ya, it's a perfect example of
how things can shift so quickly

701
00:36:36,700 --> 00:36:39,800
and over the course of Day.
And I think it's, for me, it's

702
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,600
the best example of why a day is
the perfect length to do in a

703
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,300
movie because it's short enough
that you can think about.

704
00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:48,200
Wow.
When these people woke up they

705
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,900
were completely different people
than when they went to bed that

706
00:36:49,900 --> 00:36:52,300
night.
Yep, but also throughout the

707
00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:55,300
course of a day you can see
these little micro.

708
00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:57,000
I don't know.
Say microagressions but yeah I

709
00:36:57,008 --> 00:37:00,000
like these little micro
incidents Domino set all yeah

710
00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:02,900
they pile up and it's more of a
Snowball Effect, right?

711
00:37:02,900 --> 00:37:04,900
That it gets to the point where
everything just kind of spills

712
00:37:04,900 --> 00:37:05,700
over.
Yeah.

713
00:37:06,100 --> 00:37:08,900
And honestly like when You look
at our world today and all the

714
00:37:08,908 --> 00:37:13,300
crazy stuff that goes on and it,
every single one of those crazy

715
00:37:13,300 --> 00:37:17,700
incidents has a do, the right
thing Dayton instructor for it.

716
00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:19,000
Exactly.
Yeah, exactly.

717
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:21,300
And that's interesting.
Well, Jay has been sitting on

718
00:37:21,300 --> 00:37:23,300
his movie here for a while now
so we're going to let him go

719
00:37:23,300 --> 00:37:27,100
next.
So yeah, a few others, I could

720
00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:30,400
have, could have considered, you
know, Dog Day Afternoon.

721
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,100
But but then, which of my
whiskies is what was the

722
00:37:33,100 --> 00:37:37,000
character in that the the really
unsavory once Al Was that his

723
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,900
name?
Oh yeah, yeah, which one is sow,

724
00:37:38,900 --> 00:37:40,500
which one gets capped in the
head?

725
00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:45,000
You know, well that doesn't work
so Dog, Day Afternoon.

726
00:37:45,300 --> 00:37:49,400
There's great flicks, like one
day flicks like Reservoir Dogs

727
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,900
or well, I was going to say,
Reservoir Dogs, at some point,

728
00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:55,400
but Pulp Fiction both of which
and especially Pulp Fiction,

729
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,600
this this almost conceit of the
of the director in a wonderful

730
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,300
way.
They're great flicks chopping

731
00:38:01,300 --> 00:38:06,500
the movie up and part of the fun
of it is of those films is The

732
00:38:06,500 --> 00:38:07,800
time on.
What the hell happened?

733
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:08,700
Yeah.
Oh wait.

734
00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:09,900
I get it.
Not gonna hold on.

735
00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:11,900
And this part is the first thing
that happened, right?

736
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,500
That's the last.
And it was the opening shot and

737
00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:16,300
things like that.
So those are fun.

738
00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:20,100
But those don't really reflect
anything about how we go and

739
00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:24,800
make whiskey, so finding a
one-day film.

740
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,800
And, and it's not perhaps
clinically.

741
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,900
Not in this category the way
other films are.

742
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,200
There are some like, high noon
that unquestionably take place

743
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:39,500
within a For our time frame.
And with, with my picket, it's

744
00:38:39,500 --> 00:38:42,000
on the list when you Google it.
So you know, it's official.

745
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:45,100
But is it is it really in 24
hours and there's not

746
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:48,300
necessarily markers that there
are, there's not clocks and

747
00:38:48,300 --> 00:38:51,900
there's not a literal narrative
sequence.

748
00:38:51,900 --> 00:38:54,400
It's clue it's a little bit.
But yeah, I put the, but he

749
00:38:54,408 --> 00:38:55,800
takes place, there's nothing to
say.

750
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,900
It doesn't take place within 24
hours and with with other of the

751
00:38:58,900 --> 00:39:02,300
characters, they they frame The
Narrative such that it does.

752
00:39:02,300 --> 00:39:08,100
And so as I went into this, I
realized not only is it From one

753
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:10,700
of my favorite directors, and a
great movie and everything, but

754
00:39:10,900 --> 00:39:15,200
as I peeled away, the layers, if
you will of this onion of how it

755
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,700
told a story in its own
filmmaking and in its narrative

756
00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:24,700
thrust, but applies manifestly
to our model that we presented

757
00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:27,500
here of a day in the life of new
reproduction.

758
00:39:27,500 --> 00:39:32,200
What does that look like?
And I'm afraid to say Bob, I

759
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,200
have gone back to the well.
Oh no, my feet.

760
00:39:36,300 --> 00:39:42,300
Film is rash Aman.
Oh, I love this and playing here

761
00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:45,900
behind us on the, on the
monitor, in our in our room

762
00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:49,200
here, in New riff.
It's, it's I love it.

763
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:54,900
When, when people drop that,
that use of the word rash, Aman,

764
00:39:54,900 --> 00:40:00,500
to reflect multiple opinions of
an event of a day, or something

765
00:40:00,500 --> 00:40:04,500
like that.
And I did giggle inside that, I

766
00:40:04,500 --> 00:40:07,400
know what that means.
And have known it.

767
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,400
Since I was a teenager, I saw, I
started getting into chorus Ava

768
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,200
and for those of you who have
some, some time to spend in your

769
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,200
lives, go back and listen to our
prior podcast, with film, and

770
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,100
Whiskey, In which my pic was
Seven.

771
00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:23,300
Samurai also by cora����o, I
promise, we do this again, it

772
00:40:23,300 --> 00:40:25,800
won't be chorus.
I'll find something else until I

773
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,400
won't, he's gonna take care of
those guys.

774
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,600
A, here's the funny thing.
We've been doing this season

775
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,500
based on directors, so we will
pick a director and we'll watch

776
00:40:34,500 --> 00:40:37,800
three or four of their films.
And we had so much fun doing it

777
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,300
with season six that were
carrying it into season seven.

778
00:40:40,300 --> 00:40:43,000
And one of our directors is
Kurosawa fantastic, and it will

779
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,400
be our first, our first set of
foreign language film.

780
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,700
Yeah.
And so we would actually love to

781
00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:51,100
have you back on to talk about
more side now.

782
00:40:51,100 --> 00:40:52,300
You've talked about Seven
Samurai.

783
00:40:52,300 --> 00:40:54,500
You talked about rashomon.
So I think what were the other

784
00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:57,300
two that we had picked out here?
Ooo is here.

785
00:40:57,300 --> 00:40:58,800
Yeah.
What was the other one?

786
00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:01,300
I don't know.
I can pull this run of blood may

787
00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:03,300
be, but you gotta you gotta come
back on, man.

788
00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:05,200
We'll talk about.
That would be shocking Cinema.

789
00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:07,900
So, Come on.
If you're familiar with the

790
00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:15,600
movie, is the story of a samurai
and a brigand, a bandit and the

791
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:20,500
wife of the Samurai, and the
apparently the brigand or Bandit

792
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,800
attacks and rapes the wife, and
the three of them are giving

793
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:32,500
their account of what happened.
And it's a moment in film

794
00:41:32,500 --> 00:41:36,800
history where the topic of
what's called, bye, Film critic

795
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,800
smarter than me about these
things and unreliable narrator

796
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,000
is introduced flashbacks up to
this point.

797
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:47,300
We're used to Enlighten the
audience to the truth of what

798
00:41:47,300 --> 00:41:51,000
really happened and Kurosawa
applies.

799
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,900
This to show, not only multiple
flashbacks, multiple viewpoints,

800
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,300
but the fact that none of them
is true.

801
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,100
Yeah.
All three of the of the

802
00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:04,100
characters in their flashbacks,
the the samurai, his wife and

803
00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:09,800
the Bandit a test or can Bess to
the crime that wound up with the

804
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,100
husband dead and a dagger in his
chest.

805
00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:15,200
According to who you, you
believe, there is also a fourth

806
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,600
person who is a Woodcutter who
is also apparently a witness.

807
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,500
But also has his own agenda
going on.

808
00:42:21,500 --> 00:42:23,300
Yeah.
And at the end of the movie it

809
00:42:23,300 --> 00:42:25,500
concludes you still don't know
what was the truth about.

810
00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:31,800
What the hell really happened?
And that spoke to a model that

811
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,200
described our Whiskey's here
before us.

812
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,100
So you were asking earlier, I
think Brad, You ask a question?

813
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,000
Tell us about what happened on
that day.

814
00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:45,900
December, 9th, 2018?
Or as we say, federally 18 lo9.

815
00:42:45,900 --> 00:42:49,300
What the hell happened?
And these three whiskeys have

816
00:42:49,300 --> 00:42:52,600
three different opinions, right?
Well, I think this happened, I

817
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,500
just set that up and you just
knocked it out of the park.

818
00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:58,600
And and number three says, well,
I think it was a minerally day.

819
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,100
Clearly, there was something
going on.

820
00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:03,200
And number two is got another
opinion, who are we to believe?

821
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,000
Yeah.
Are we to believe the fourth

822
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:05,900
Nader a door?
Narrator?

823
00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:08,600
Who is And I'm going to sit here
as the whiskey expert and say,

824
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,100
well, let me explain what really
happened.

825
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,800
If I do that, you shouldn't
believe me.

826
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:18,400
Yeah, because that means chunk
of it is, I don't know either

827
00:43:18,500 --> 00:43:22,700
exactly why each fermentation
has a different character summer

828
00:43:22,700 --> 00:43:25,600
this Summer.
That some are are black, some

829
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,900
are white, some our Smoky, Etc.
All new riff whiskey is a rash.

830
00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:32,900
Aman upon, what goes on here on
a daily basis?

831
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,200
What does go on and what these
three?

832
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,100
All of them.
Excellent.

833
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,100
Whiskey's attest to Is our
commitment to Quality.

834
00:43:39,300 --> 00:43:42,000
We're here to give you the
unvarnished truth, you can

835
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,700
decide maybe what happened,
maybe you can decide, which one

836
00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:48,700
of the three really put the
dagger in, in the film rashomon

837
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:55,500
but that spoke powerfully to the
the conceit, if you will of a

838
00:43:55,500 --> 00:43:57,400
day's production at new riff,
what was that day?

839
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,900
Like nobody knows what.
I really hear you saying is that

840
00:44:01,900 --> 00:44:05,300
you guys need to partner with
the Kurosawa estate and create a

841
00:44:05,300 --> 00:44:09,300
partnership.
Like Kurosawa try?

842
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,400
Yeah, shame on rye.
There you go.

843
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,800
Well, we know now, YJ is the
global brand ambassador at new

844
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:16,600
riff.
Yeah.

845
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,000
Listen, would you have a job
like this?

846
00:44:18,300 --> 00:44:20,200
And you're talking to people
about your whiskey?

847
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,900
And you're trying to sell them
on the idea?

848
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,600
You got to be able to tell a
good story.

849
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,900
I am super pumped to watch
rashomon now.

850
00:44:26,900 --> 00:44:28,600
Yeah, can't wait till we get to
that episode.

851
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,200
But yeah, it's going to be an
absolute blast.

852
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,000
That's I've said for a while
now.

853
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,300
I'm like, I'm ready.
I'm ready to dive in.

854
00:44:35,300 --> 00:44:37,000
I haven't watched curse.
Sally yet.

855
00:44:37,100 --> 00:44:40,000
Partially out of I knew we would
do him eventually in the

856
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,700
podcast.
But also out of the fact that I

857
00:44:42,700 --> 00:44:45,600
just I didn't watch foreign
language films growing up, so I

858
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,200
am really pumped.
Alright, well, that's it for us

859
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,300
at new riff today.
Jay, thank you again so much for

860
00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:52,300
having us here.
You bet.

861
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,500
We'll be back with another bonus
episode here in a couple weeks.

862
00:44:55,500 --> 00:44:58,000
Hopefully Brad.
Yeah, it's good to see you in

863
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,400
person.
It's great to be in person.

864
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,600
We normally record these cities
apart so we really do.

865
00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:04,400
All right, we'll see you guys
next time.