How to Train Your Dragon (2010) / Glengoyne 15 Year Single Malt Scotch

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In 2010, Dream Work Animation
Studios gave the world a plucky

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adventure about a misfit who
cracked the draconic code.

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In 2025 we returned to the
Scottish Highlands along with

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apparently half of the
Scandinavian Vikings in this

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movie.
The film is How to Train Your

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Dragon the.
Whiskey is Glen Goyne 15 year.

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And more.
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This is the Film and Whiskey
podcast.

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Welcome to the Film and Whiskey
podcast, where each week we

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review a classic movie and a
glass of whiskey.

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I'm Bob Book.
I'm Brad Gee.

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And this week we are looking at
the 2010 DreamWorks animated

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classic How to Train Your
Dragon.

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Brad.
I'm pretty pumped for this one,

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man.
I'm not going to lie, I've been

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waiting a long time to talk
about this movie.

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This has long been one of my
favorite animated movies, and I

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go back to it more often than I
kind of would have expected

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myself to.
And I got to say, man, every

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time I go back it's a freaking
banger still.

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Yeah, I remember seeing this
movie in theaters being

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absolutely blown away.
Like the action sequences, the

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storytelling, the relationship
between Hiccup and and

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Toothless.
Like there's just so much to

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absolutely love with How to
Train Your Dragon and I'm with

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you, man.
I, I found myself, you know, I

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have this vast library of
physical media that you know,

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you, you think that the beast
library is big from beauty and

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the beast man.
You should see how many movies I

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have.
And with with that vast

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collection, for some reason, I
bought both this and the second

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movie on Blu-ray.
I'm.

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Going to be honest with you, I
know that I've seen the 2nd and

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the 3rd installment of this
trilogy, but I don't remember

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anything about them They're and
they were both pretty good as I

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remember.
Yeah, I remember the second one

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being very impressive.
I don't remember much about it.

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I never saw the third one even
though I wanted to.

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There you go.
But the first two were so good

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that you bought them and then
just said, you know what?

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No, I don't need to see the
third one.

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I'm done.
Yeah, I'm.

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I'm.
Absolutely.

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I mean, does it, does it
surprise you at all, Bob?

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Not not really.
Honestly, Brad, I I've come to

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know you pretty well that that
tracks.

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So folks, hey, welcome in to
film and whiskey.

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If this is your first time
joining us, what we do on this

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podcast as we talk about movies
and we talk about whiskey this

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season, what we're doing is
we're looking at movies from the

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last 20 years and we're asking
the question, does this deserve

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to be considered a modern
masterpiece?

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We are in the last, I believe, 3
episodes of our season.

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Brad, what do you think our hit
rate on masterpiece versus non

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masterpiece is?
Now, I know I asked you that a

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few weeks back, but we've been
in the nose category more than I

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would have expected.
I mean, it feels like we kind of

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stacked the deck, right, Like
with the categories that we gave

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for inclusion, you know, we
weren't, we weren't picking any

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schlubs here.
I feel like we have given every

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movie an honest shake.
And in my opinion, the term

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modern classic is like, that's a
bar.

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That's that's not a low bar.
Bob, You, you got to, you got to

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have a little bit of hutzpah to
really, you know, make it over

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that that Cliff.
So I I am OK with the nose that

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we have given.
I think so too, for the most

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part.
Like we definitely split the

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vote a couple times.
I think what would be really fun

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is during the offseason, you
know, after we wrap up this

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season and before Season 10
starts, we should get a like a

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full list of every movie we
reviewed from the last 20 years,

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even beyond this season and do
like a once.

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And for all.
What is the 21st century Canon

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according to Film and Whiskey?
I think that's a absolutely

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great idea.
Well, there you go.

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Coming your way in the coming
months, folks.

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But before we get there, Brad,
we got to talk about How to

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Train Your Dragon.
Like I said, one of my favorite

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animated movies from the last
1520 years and one of the few

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non Pixar entries here.
I mean, I think that those who

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love animation love Pixar and
love Hayao Miyazaki and Studio

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Ghibli.
Like that's kind of the two

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poles of animated film love.
I've never been a big anime guy,

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so I've kind of hung my hat on
Pixar in the last 20 years.

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And I feel like DreamWorks, for
a long time really struggled to

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find their footing.
Like, you know, my thoughts on

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Shrek are on the record here.
But then they really started

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hitting their groove with movies
like, You know, How to Train

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Your Dragon, Kung Fu Panda.
I've talked at length about The

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Wild Robot and how much I loved
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So they are slowly but surely
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library of bankable IP that is
now kind of starting to rival

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Pixar and I think How to Train
Your Dragon, it's kind of the

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starting point of that.
Obviously the Shrek movies are

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even more popular than these
movies are, but these were the

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first set that that DreamWorks
really did that.

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I feel like critics kind of took
note and audiences responded to

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how good they were as well.
Yeah, this movie did

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extraordinarily well at the box
office in 2010.

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I'm pretty sure it pulled like
270 domestic and like 220.

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So it didn't quite hit half a
billion dollars, but you know,

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490 is pretty good.
And critics overall gave it

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really good scores.
And I think it's for good

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reason, Bob.
Like you take the hero's

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journey, you put it in the hands
of an awkward teenager and you

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give him a really interesting
sidekick that makes the world

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come to life.
And it like it makes for a

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really compelling movie.
I think so too, man.

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Yeah, I'm, I'm excited.
I think most to talk about the

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movies that I feel like
influenced this movie and the

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films that came after it that
were influenced by it.

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But before we get into all that,
we need to get to our first

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segment of the day, which we
call, Brad explains.

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Brad's going to give us the
movie plots with only 60 seconds

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taken on the clock, so let's go
ahead and do your take with this

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little segment that we call,
Brad explains.

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Brad Explains is the part of the
show where Brad breaks down the

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plot of the movie that he has
just seen, often for the first

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time.
Brad, this is obviously not your

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first time watching this movie
if it's in your vaunted

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collection of Blu rays.
How many times do you think that

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you have seen this movie though?
Man, I, you know, I saw it in

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theaters probably once or twice
in the interim and then

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absolutely randomly and with 0
forethought on my part, I

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watched this like 3 or 4 weeks
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Like we just kind of wanted to
watch a movie and she didn't

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want to pick.
And I was looking at my my

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collection and I was like, you
know, we haven't watched How to

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Train Your Dragon in a while.
That's a great movie.

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We should watch it again.
And then like a week later, I

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was looking ahead at the next
few movies and was like, ha,

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look at that.
How to Train Your Dragon.

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So I watched it again yesterday
because it's a fun movie.

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And that probably brings me up
to like, I don't know, 5

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viewings.
I don't, I don't want to

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stereotype or typecast this
movie, but I kind of feel like

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this is right in line with our
favorite genre of films, which

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is dad movies.
This is like a dad movie in

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animation.
Form I thought you were going to

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say the the the beautiful 90
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It's in that genre too, our two
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It checks both boxes.
But like what I've noticed about

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this movie is that when I want
to watch a kids movie with my

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kids, I've gone back to this one
and it is kind of a very

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stereotypical and male dominated
film about men doing men stuff.

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So that certainly has something
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But it's also just like it's a
kids movie that doesn't talk

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down to kids and it also
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without pandering to them
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Like it's not just full of pop
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jokes to appeal to the grown-ups
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It's actually like here you get
your coming of age story and you

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also get really, really good
filmmaking, especially in that

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last half hour.
And it you kind of forget you're

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watching an animated movie for a
good stretch of it because it is

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so well made.
It's like watching a live action

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action film.
I think that it draws in viewers

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of all ages so well in ways that
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other animated movies don't do.
There are sequences at the end

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of the film that really reminded
me of Avatar, like the action

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sequences of these aerial
creatures.

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Whatever they are in Avatar or
the Dragons in this movie, you

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just get really great shots of
flying creatures doing really

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cool things.
And like, that is our favorite

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sign to watch.
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So this movie comes out in 2010,
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And one of the big promos about
this movie was that it was one

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of the first animated films
released in 3D when the 3D craze

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was reintroduced post Avatar.
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this movie and even like the DVD
having 3D as a thing that you

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could buy.
And you can tell there's a

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couple shots in the movie that
are kind of like 3D pandery.

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Like there's one shot where one
of hiccups little buddies is

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hitting the big bad dragon at
the end with the hammer in the

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eye and then the thing like
moves its head and he goes to

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hang off of it's like like
antler horn type thing.

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And the way the shot is set up,
he's in the foreground but out

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of focus and everything that is
like falling towards the ground

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is in focus in the background of
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And I'm like, oh, that was a
shot that was only created for

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3D 'cause it does.
It doesn't make visual sense

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otherwise.
But I will say that like 99% of

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this movie is not made that way.
And I still am kind of kicking

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myself that I never saw this in
3D because you can tell how

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purposefully made it is both for
2D, but also like when you make

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a good 2D movie, you can make a
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And I think that that that's
what kind of sets this movie

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apart.
You can see where they would add

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the 3D elements.
And I kind of wish I'd gotten

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the chance to check that out.
Hey, Bob.

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Yeah, 3D sucks.
It does.

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It does.
It's the it's the worst.

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I'm so glad I.
I've enjoyed a couple of my 3D

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experiences like when they when
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and The Lion King in 3D and
Jurassic Park in 3D.

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Like I was there for all three
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You can like watch Jack fall
into your lap as he fades into

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the icy oblivion the.
The icicles hanging off his nose

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where I felt like I could reach
out and touch them.

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Dude, I, I don't know if I've
ever, we've never really talked

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about 3D in, in nine seasons of
the podcast.

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I really hate 3 DI.
Like I've maybe seen six or

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seven movies in 3D once because
they were re releasing the Star

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Wars films in 3D and I was like,
wow, when do I get a chance to

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see The Phantom Menace in
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Dude 3D ruins a movie have.
You ever considered that it was

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maybe just the Phantom Menace
that you were reacting strongly

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to and not the 3D?
What a great.

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Movie like, hey, what if we had
these guys sit in chairs in a

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room, but in 3D?
That dude with the big conehead,

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he could really.
It really felt like the Conehead

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was in the room with us.
Hey, layoff, Chiati Mundi.

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First off, second off, The
Phantom Menace is an incredible

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piece of filmmaking and if you
really want to dive into that, I

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would be more than happy to do
with you, Bob.

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Do you know what I just
realized, Brad?

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What's that, Robert?
We never actually did, Brad

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explains.
Oh, we should probably do that.

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We intro might be helpful.
We introed it and then never did

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it.
So here's the deal with Brad.

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Explains.
Brad breaks down the plot of the

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movie that he's watched often
for the first time.

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He gets 60 seconds on the clock
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movie.
So as he said, if you have not

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watched this 93 minute movie,
you should hit pause here and go

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watch it.
It's an incredible movie.

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Then come back and join us for
the rest of the episode.

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Brad, you have 60 seconds and
go.

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How to Train Your Dragon is a
film about a definitely Scottish

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version of Norway where you have
some Scandinavian looking people

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with Scottish accents talk about
Dragons.

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There's Dragons invading
invading their little village

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that are fighting them off all
the time, and poor little Hiccup

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is the Chieftain's son but is
absolutely useless when it comes

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to killing Dragons.
He is an inventor though, and he

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his invention shoots down at
Night Fury, the most dangerous

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dragon of all, in the middle of
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He slowly befriends it as his
father goes off to fight the

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Dragons in their home island and
his friendship with the night

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fury helps him become the best
trainee in the camp and they go

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off to the big dragon battle
fight place and destroy them all

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and they they kill the big bad
dragon.

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I don't think you've ever ended,
Brad explains with a roar

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before.
I have ended it with a witness

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man.
That is true.

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All right, so that's how to
train your dragon.

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Brad, where do you want to start
talking about this movie?

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I honestly think it might be
better for us to kind of get our

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nitpicks out of the way first,
because it sounds like we both

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really like this movie, so maybe
we lead with the few things that

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didn't work for us so that we
can just praise the movie for

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the rest of the episode.
Yeah, the the dragon animation

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is like chef's kiss.
Incredible.

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The humans suck, bro.
They they are really rough.

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Wait, what do you like 2000?
They, they just look lifeless,

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kind of like a doll, like their
eyes don't really come to life.

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They it feels kind of like early
Pixar humans.

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Got it.
So it's on being real.

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It's not Even so much a question
of like character design as it

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is like the limitations of how
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Yes, yeah, the honestly, the
character designs are pretty

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good.
Like I I like how distinct all

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of the at the very least
speaking characters are, like

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the the twins have a very
distinct look and you got the

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chubby smart Viking and then you
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I think.
What's stoic?

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Gerard Butler's character?
Dude, what a like just the most

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perfect dichotomy to Hiccup.
Like great character design.

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The rendering is just a little
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And I was a little sad.
Like I got into the movie and I

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was like, oh man, the humans in
this haven't aged very well at

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all.
I can see that I do have like.

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If there's one little issue I
have with any design of any

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creature, it's that one dragon
that he fights at the very end

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of his training that can like
light himself on fire, which is

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the coolest, like the coolest
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But then when you see the thing
like close up, they've designed

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it in such a weird cartoony way
that it looks like a, it looks

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like if you've made a praying
mantis into a dragon with those

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big bulbous eyes.
I've always hated that one

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dragon.
I don't know why.

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I just have like so much animus
towards that thing in my heart.

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Dude, I see I I love all all of
the Dragons and part of it is my

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love of world building that, you
know, whoever wrote this movie

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gave you enough of those like
artifacts of the world that made

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you fascinated with what's going
on in a world where Dragons

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exist, but humans are still
pretty much just humans, except

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for stoic.
It's, it's such a great like,

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like the whole Dragonomicon or
whatever they called it, the

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Book of Dragons and the, the way
that the kids almost treat it

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like a game of like, yeah, this
one does this thing and this one

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does that thing.
And it's such a fun world to

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inhabit.
And a a huge part of that is the

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character design of the Dragons.
I think that if there is

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anything else that I would pick,
you know, nitpick a little bit,

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it's that the voice work can be
a little bit much for me at

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times in this movie.
And I don't just mean like the

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the over the topness of the
characters, because that's kind

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of like to be expected with what
they're going for here.

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But like, so Jay Baruchel is the
main voice of of Hiccup, and

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that is really pretty much how
his voice sounds.

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But it's almost like every actor
in this movie was instructed to

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sound 10% more like themselves
than they normally do.

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Like every, every feature of
everyone's voice is

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overemphasized.
And so Jay Baruchel has the

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like, I mumble and I'm sarcastic
and like, that's his voice.

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And, and he overdoes it so much,
especially in the early going of

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this movie, that I thought that
the 1st 1520 minutes were kind

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of rough for me this time
around.

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Like they they work on paper,
the script is pretty good.

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They really rely on the
narration a lot.

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And I think because there's so
much narration while you're

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trying to get to know Hiccup,
it's it's almost like they're

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pitting Hiccup against Hiccup.
Like you want to know and like

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this kid who's going to be your
protagonist, but then you hear

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his inner monologue and he's so
sarcastic and so like dismissive

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and flippant.
And I don't want to be in this

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place that like the Hiccup you
here talking to you kind of

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turns you off from the Hiccup
that you're watching.

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I don't know if that makes
sense.

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It does.
I think there is a place to

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argue that there.
It shows character growth by the

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end of the film that he kind of
goes from this sarcastic

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character to somebody who feels
confident in who he is and

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doesn't need the sarcasm
anymore.

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But I'm kind of with you that
like I'm arguing for something

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that maybe I'm projecting onto
the film a little bit.

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Like, you know, at the end of
the day, does he really grow

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that much?
Who's to say there?

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There might be a little bit of
it.

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But do you know who really does
grow?

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Brad.
Who?

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Who's that, Bob?
Stoic played by Gerard Butler.

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Gerard Butler.
Dude.

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He of 300 fame.
He of Den of Thieves fame.

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I love me some Gerard Butler.
He's kind of terrible and kind

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of great at the same time and.
What's the one where he dies of

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cancer but he sends his wife to
get banged by other dudes?

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Oh yeah.
PSI Great movie.

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Yeah, I I'm not gonna lie dude,
I like me some PSI love.

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You, based on your description
of it, it sounds like you're

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into some weird stuff, my
friend.

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But we will leave that aside for
a second.

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Let's talk about Gerard Butler
because first of all, perfect

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choice for Stoic and Gerard
Butler actually able to use a

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European accent in an
appropriate way for a change in

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his movie.
So, you know, good for him, good

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for him.
Yeah, congratulations.

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I.
Love what they do with the

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father son dynamic with Hiccup
and Stoic and like Brad.

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It is no secret on this podcast
that your boy loves a good

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complicated father son
relationship movie, but I feel

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like this one kind of toes the
line of falling into every

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father son relationship.
Cliche.

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And it still finds ways to make
it a little bit more poignant

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than you think it's going to be.
Like there's that one scene

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where, you know, hiccups whole
plot to train the Dragons or to

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get to know and befriend the
Dragons has made has has given

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him advantages in the dragon
training or dragon fighting

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ring.
And he gets all the way to sort

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of the finals and then his dad
comes to watch and everything

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hits the fan.
And so his dad's publicly

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embarrassed.
He has to rescue Astrid and

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Hiccup from the ring.
And then he takes Hiccup aside

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and tells him, like, you're not
a Viking, you're not my son.

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And I was like, oh, man, like
that is it?

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It's really getting at, I don't
know, man, like I think kind of

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like generational things.
I, I've like, I've heard people

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say that kind of thing before,
right?

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Like where, whether it's in a
movie or whatever, it feels like

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the boomers really like saying
stuff like you're not my son,

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which is a crazy thing to say.
Like I, I don't know that I

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would ever think, no matter how
mad I ever got at my children,

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to like, not just disown them,
but to like deny and reject your

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lineage.
And I think watching it in this

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movie is like it.
It's getting at this idea of

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Stoic's character.
Where do I think he means it in

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that moment?
Absolutely.

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But like the way that he defines
himself through the successes of

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his son, but only if the
successes of his son can mirror

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his success because he's so
deeply insecure.

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It's a really good, I don't want
to call it subtle, but like, how

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many children's movies do you
know that go that many layers

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deep with their kind of
antagonist?

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You know what I mean?
Yeah, the the reality is his

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entire identity is externally
based and he expects his son's

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identity to be based in the
exact same external place.

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And his son's just kind of like,
hey, man, I don't know if you

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noticed, I'm about 5 foot 8 and
weigh 120 lbs soaking wet.

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Like, I'm not going to be able
to do the things that you do,

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right?
Not to get like all biblical on

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us, but it really reminded me of
like David and Saul when David's

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going off to fight Goliath.
And Saul's like, hey, man,

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here's all my armor and my sword
and all the things.

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And David's like, bro, I'm like
13, This is this is armor for a

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grown man.
What are you doing?

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You actually made reference to
Beauty and the Beast in a joking

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way a little bit ago.
And I actually thought that the

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stoic character reminded me so
much of the characterization of

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the Beast in Beauty and the
Beast, especially in those early

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scenes where he's really trying
to be kind to Belle, but he just

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doesn't know how to talk to
people.

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And he also is like let.
Alone, let alone a woman whose

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name means beauty.
Right, but then like anytime she

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rejects him, he just he just
shuts down and his way of

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shutting down is like, I'm going
to push you away in the meanest

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possible way.
And it, it, I think by doing

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that, they make, they never make
Stoic seem like you're just a

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Dick, like you're, you're you're
a guy who doesn't understand how

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to communicate to his children
and who is feeling like deep

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senses of loss over the loss of
his wife and now his fear of

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losing his son.
And I think that both the way

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they animate that character and
the way that Gerard Butler

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voices it add really subtle
shading to the character, where

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in other hands it could seem
like a really one note

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character.
Yeah, he has so much depth to

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him.
And I I think it's because

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Gerard Butler has a great voice
and really puts a lot of effort

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into this role.
So at the end of the day, I, I

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found myself sympathetic for him
as he was disowning his son of

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like, man, this dude's got a lot
on him.

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Like he's, he's trying to keep
this village from burning to the

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ground and he has lost his wife
and he feels like he's losing

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his son and that, you know,
there's all of these things

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burning through his soul that I,
I felt myself feeling pretty

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deeply for Stoic throughout the
entire movie, even even as he's

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being just cruel to his son.
Yeah, but then, like, how good

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is that moment where he grabs
Stoic by the hand as he's

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climbed on top of Toothless and
he's about to fly away and save

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the day and he's just like, I'm
proud to call you my son.

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Immediate waterworks.
Immediate.

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Yeah, it's so good, man.
Like it's the thing every,

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every, every young boy needs to
hear for sure.

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Masculinity, fatherhood passed
down from father to son.

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Like, let's go, dude.
All right, Brad, let's talk

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about the visuals of this movie.
I don't need to like steer us

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away from the cast because there
are quite a few pretty famous

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people in this cast.
But I think some of the drawback

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of this movie is that like the
non main characters are not

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fleshed out at all.
And I would even argue that like

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Astrid, who is probably the
third biggest character in this

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movie, is also not fleshed out
very well.

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And I think America does fine,
but like, there's not much

444
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,680
there, dude.
She is a nothing burger of a

445
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,200
character.
Which is crazy because they set

446
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,080
her up as like the Furiosa of
the Kingdom of Burke.

447
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,600
You're like, oh, this is going
to be awesome.

448
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,720
And then she's just kind of like
there for most of the movie.

449
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,320
Dude that.
That's two Mad Max references in

450
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,520
one episode.
Thank you so much.

451
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,760
Thank you.
We should, we should watch that.

452
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:39,920
We should watch that movie
again.

453
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,760
Bob we really should.
Brad, I want to talk about the

454
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,440
visuals because yes, I think
that some of the character

455
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,600
rendering is a bit dated.
But I was, I pulled up the

456
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,680
Wikipedia for this movie and I
was looking at some of the

457
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,000
concept art that they've
embedded on the Wikipedia page.

458
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,160
And it's like gorgeous kind of
watercolor.

459
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,080
There's diffused light
everywhere.

460
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,040
And I think that they took the
moments like that where it's a,

461
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,480
a, a wide shot or an
establishing shot.

462
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:13,440
And they use those moments to
paint these really artistic

463
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,920
images where you could like
pause the movie, take a still

464
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,320
frame and like put it on your
wall.

465
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,080
There are so many moments,
especially I would say in that

466
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,320
last 2025 minutes, where the way
they compose those shots is

467
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,240
like, Oh my gosh, I didn't
realize that they had this in

468
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:38,320
them.
Dude, the movies are a visual

469
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:45,040
medium and when you're able to
create like atmospheric scenic

470
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:50,520
vistas and shots that that stick
in the human soul, it will take

471
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,800
almost any movie and make it so
incredibly memorable.

472
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,880
Like, you know, out of all the
movies we've ever watched for

473
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,400
the podcast and even, you know,
things that I've seen outside of

474
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,600
the podcast, it's it's moments
like that scene in gold rush

475
00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:11,080
when every single human being in
the bar has gone onto the dance

476
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,720
floor and Charlie Chaplin is
standing there alone.

477
00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:18,520
And I I like paused it and was
like damn that is the most

478
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,880
perfect depiction of loneliness
I've ever seen in my life.

479
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,160
I think that's such a great
example.

480
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,760
I don't mean.
To interrupt you either, but I

481
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:29,200
was just thinking about like
this movie is visually great in

482
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,200
two ways and one of the ways
that is what I'm talking about,

483
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,600
those kind of painterly moments.
But even in those moments, it's

484
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,440
this really great blend of
things that are still and things

485
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,760
that are subtly moving.
And that Chaplain shot you're

486
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,800
talking about, everybody in the
background of that shot is

487
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,680
twirling and spinning and moving
around and Chaplain standing

488
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,440
completely still.
And it's the juxtaposition of

489
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,080
those things that makes that
shot super profound.

490
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,680
And I think the same thing with
a lot of the shots in this

491
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,640
movie.
Like, there's this great shot

492
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:04,280
where at the end of the film,
Stoic thinks that Toothless and

493
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,560
Hiccup are dead, and he goes
over to their bodies on this

494
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,680
sort of like, pebbly beach, and
he's kneeling there.

495
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,960
And they cut to this wide shot
of him kneeling over their

496
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,720
bodies.
And then kind of off to the

497
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,160
side, the rest of the Vikings
watching on.

498
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,040
And the way that's lit and you
can see like soot and ash

499
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,040
falling to the ground as the
lights diffused, It is such a

500
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:31,560
great example of the combination
of stillness and movement that

501
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,720
make that shot just perfect
dude.

502
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,040
Yeah, and that's where they
really nail a lot of the

503
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:44,520
animation is in the fire and the
ash and the smoke and the

504
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,680
Dragons in flight.
Like they they do movement

505
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,240
incredibly well in this movie.
And even just in all of the

506
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:58,800
individual ways in which Dragons
can move and interact it, they

507
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:05,920
really nail the the the action,
the movement, the, the

508
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,200
physicality of the universe
they're creating.

509
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,320
We talked about this a few weeks
ago, but when Pixar came out

510
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,640
with Ratatouille, they started
using the like, quote UN quote

511
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,680
camera as a camera, right?
It wasn't just like a pane of

512
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,040
glass that we were observing
through.

513
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,560
The camera didn't really move a
lot in in some of their earlier

514
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,600
films.
And then in Ratatouille, it's

515
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,760
like, not only is the camera
moving, but like we can

516
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,480
replicate shaky Cam.
We can do like a, there's that

517
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,320
one shot in Ratatouille where
the the waiter comes back into

518
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,800
the kitchen and they're arguing
about like, should we serve them

519
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,160
the soup?
They requested the soup.

520
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,120
And it's like whip panning back
and forth between three

521
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,520
different people.
And you get some of that in this

522
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,760
movie.
And in that last battle when

523
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,200
that dragon emerges out of the
side of the mountain, there's

524
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,280
like quick zooms in, there's
whip pans, there's shaky Cam.

525
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,440
It's really brilliant action
filmmaking and they're cutting

526
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,160
to a lot of different cutaways
of what's happening on that

527
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,720
beach, and I think they do a
great job of establishing the

528
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,600
geography of the battle that
you're watching.

529
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,280
I I said it before, but I really
did forget that I was watching

530
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,040
an animated movie for a good
stretch of that time because

531
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,200
it's super compelling and really
tightly made action filmmaking.

532
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,000
And it makes sense, right?
Like they hired Rodger Deakins

533
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,400
to come on and like, advise on
the film.

534
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,600
Like I, I don't know if I've
ever heard of animated film

535
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,960
going to such lengths to make
sure that the action is done

536
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,880
well in the movement, that it,
it, it has a kineticism to it.

537
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,280
And I like money well spent.
You can tell.

538
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,640
This is now the third week in a
row that we get to talk about

539
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,240
Rodger Deakins working on a
movie.

540
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,000
My guy has been busy and he is
making movies better where he

541
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,040
goes.
Absolutely dude, Deke is just

542
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,280
nailing it.
All right, man.

543
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,440
Well, in the spirit of the
randomly Scottish voices

544
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,600
populating this Nordic island, I
think it's time for us to take a

545
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,120
return trip to Scotland here,
Brad, We've got a new whiskey to

546
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,520
try that.
I have never heard of this brand

547
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,480
until it showed up for us to
review.

548
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,480
I'm super excited to dive into
it.

549
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,600
So what do you say we get to
this Glenn Goyne?

550
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:24,240
Let's get to it.
All right.

551
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,440
Today we are trying a new line
of Scotch, new to us at least.

552
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,120
It's called the Glenn Goyne.
Brad, This is one that I can't

553
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:36,360
tell if I've heard of it before
or if it just sounds like such a

554
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,880
quintessential Scotch that I
just assumed that I've heard of

555
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:40,960
it before.
You know what I mean?

556
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,960
Absolutely, dude.
Yeah, whiskey like this is.

557
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,720
It's always been in your soul
somewhere, Bob.

558
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,440
Yeah, Glenn going just like it
kind of reminds me when I see it

559
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,960
spelled out of like gargoyle.
So I'm like, oh, this would have

560
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,960
been a cool and a pair with like
Hunchback of Notre Dame or

561
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,280
something.
I'm very excited to dive into

562
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,400
it, man.
This is a Highland Scotch and

563
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,200
we're drinking the 15 year
version of it.

564
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,680
It's, of course, 100% malted
barley.

565
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,280
Being a single malt Scotch.
It clocks in at 43 percent ABV

566
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,120
or 86 proof.
I don't really have many stats

567
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,040
beyond that, Brad.
I don't really see anything

568
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,200
about like the type of barrels
that it was aged in or anything

569
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,880
like that.
Do you have any stats on your

570
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,560
end?
Yeah, the they would use 20%

571
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,880
first fill bourbon cast, then
they put it into a 25% was first

572
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:31,040
fill Sherry and then 55% of the
time was in refill casks.

573
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,560
Oh, OK, nice.
So there's just.

574
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,720
A a plethora of.
Things we heard before.

575
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,400
Yeah, I know.
I feel like we've only come

576
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,880
across refill casks a couple
times and I can't think of many

577
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,480
of the big players that are
doing it at least publicly.

578
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,240
In any case, I'm super excited
to dive in, man.

579
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,960
I don't really think we need to
give much more in terms of

580
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,440
statistics on this one.
Let's go ahead and dive in.

581
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,120
Yeah, so this is really
beautiful on the nose.

582
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:05,120
It reminds me of like a nice
fall apple cider nutmeg.

583
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,320
There's almond nuttiness to it.
It's got that nice barley note

584
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,400
on the nose.
I like.

585
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:14,760
I'm absolutely just in heaven
with this.

586
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,360
I think it's an 8.5 out of 10.
Yeah, Brad, I like, I'm not

587
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,239
really picking up a ton of
complexity here, but it has a

588
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,159
brightness to it that is
reminiscent of, for me, like a

589
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:27,239
little bit more of like a space
side kind of knows.

590
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,360
It doesn't remind me of like
what we typically get on our

591
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,239
favorite Highland Scotch brand,
which is Glenmorangie.

592
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,000
I'm not picking up very much
spice here.

593
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,239
There's quite a bit of citrus.
There's a little bit of melon It

594
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,360
it operates in that sort of
lighter, brighter category.

595
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,600
I'm interested to see where it
goes on the pallet, but just as

596
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,560
kind of a baseline I'm going to
give it a 7.5 on the nose.

597
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,880
I think the palette here has an
apple peel, honey.

598
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,760
There's a little bit of a banana
fruity vibe going on.

599
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:02,360
It's got white grape and for me
the the spiciness of the nutmeg

600
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,120
on the nose turns into like a
cinnamon stick on the palette.

601
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,200
I really like this whiskey Bob
it.

602
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,920
It has like all the things I
want out of a Scotch.

603
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,520
I'm going to give it a nine out
of 10 on the palette.

604
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,680
Brad, I like this, like, fine.
You know what I mean?

605
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,920
I don't like, I'm just not blown
away by this one.

606
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,280
It's pretty thin on the
mouthfeel.

607
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:28,080
There's like really hardly any
ethanol kick to this one, and it

608
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,280
is like a lower ABV, so that's
to be expected.

609
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,920
But there's a honey sweetness up
front that kind of blossoms into

610
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,400
like a really nice rounded malt
flavor, but there's not much

611
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,160
beyond that.
I'm not picking up a ton of

612
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,160
fruit here.
I know that you had said like

613
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,120
apple, but I'm not really
getting that.

614
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,280
I think this is kind of like a
standard Scotch whiskey.

615
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,360
I don't even know if like if you
set this in front of me and

616
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,560
we're like, how many years old
do you think it is?

617
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,920
I don't really think I'd be able
to pinpoint anything here.

618
00:35:57,240 --> 00:36:00,640
It's just a really light, you
know what it, it kind of reminds

619
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:05,960
me of like how Canadian whiskey
uses like refill barrels and you

620
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,320
just never can extract quite as
much as you can with the first,

621
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,400
like a, a new charred oak
barrel.

622
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,320
It's like that but in Scotch
form.

623
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,560
It's fine.
But I'm going to give it like a

624
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,240
7 out of 10 here.
Oh, dude, we are on opposite

625
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:25,480
ends of the spectrum like that.
Like for being, you know, 86

626
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,920
proof.
I think that there's a lot of

627
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,600
flavor here.
The finish for me, it turned

628
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,520
back into nutmeg.
The spiciness, it reminded me of

629
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,440
Cheerios.
The the fruitiness kind of

630
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,080
turned a little dark.
It got a little bit of a plum

631
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:45,200
flavor for me.
And like the honey felt fruity,

632
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,720
like almost like a honeyed
apricot type of feel.

633
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,560
I I'm still sitting with the
finish here just really enjoying

634
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,280
it.
It's a nine out of 10 for me on

635
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,080
the finish as well.
Oh, man, yeah.

636
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,080
See, I'm just, I think that it's
a really pleasant drinking

637
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,400
experience.
I just can't really pinpoint

638
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,520
specific things in the notes
here.

639
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:09,080
It's like fruit.
Then I start asking myself, what

640
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,040
fruit is it?
It's like, I don't know, maybe

641
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,240
like a canned fruit cocktail
they used to give you with like

642
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:15,760
your school lunch.
It's like it's in there

643
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,040
somewhere, you know?
Your your palate is full of

644
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,040
ennui today.
It certainly is man, full of

645
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,400
confusion.
At least it you know, like I

646
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,680
said, it's nice, but it's just
there's nothing really distinct

647
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,160
about it.
The finish is pleasant and long

648
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,800
lasting and I think like a what
you would come to expect from a

649
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,160
standard lighter Scotch.
Once again, I'm going to give it

650
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,040
a 7 1/2 here.
I think balance wise this this

651
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:46,040
has all sorts of flavors that I
really enjoy on a Highland that

652
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,520
have a richness and a depth that
drew me in.

653
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,640
This is a 9 1/2 on balance, Bob.
Wow.

654
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,600
Oh my gosh, dude.
I don't think that we're going

655
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,960
to be so far apart on this.
It is a well balanced whiskey

656
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:03,440
that just did not do it for me.
So I'm trying to decide exactly

657
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,080
where you set the, the numerical
score for that.

658
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,120
I think that I'll just give it a
7 1/2.

659
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,040
Again, I'm sure that this is
going to be appealing to some

660
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,400
people, clearly to you, right?
But for me, it's just, I, I want

661
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,160
a little bit more
distinctiveness here.

662
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,680
And this just kind of feels like
a canned fruit cocktail in that

663
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,760
like you kind of get some notes
of specific fruits, but it's

664
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,200
mostly just simple syrup that
all those fruits have been

665
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,920
floating in for a couple months.
And and so like it just

666
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,520
diminishes any distinct
character.

667
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,440
Yeah, I'm at a 7 1/2 bread.
The way you're talking about it

668
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,880
sounds like you're going to come
out to like a 26.

669
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,120
No, it's pretty good.
And I think I'll be, you know, I

670
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,720
actually don't know how much
this is selling for.

671
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:51,680
So why don't you hit us with
that price point and I'll tell

672
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,400
you exactly where I'm coming out
on this.

673
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,040
Well, this is kind of in a weird
place.

674
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:03,800
It costs £93.00 in the UK, which
is about $125.00, but I am

675
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:09,040
seeing it at a variety of
distributors for anywhere from

676
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,240
like 88 to $120.00.
All right.

677
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:17,120
So I like it feels like it's in
the 95 to $100 range.

678
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,480
I was going to say let's start
it at like 100 or one O 5 at 100

679
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:22,680
bucks.
I don't think this is a bad

680
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,400
value.
Like it's a 15 year Scotch, of

681
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,920
course it's going to be a round
triple digits.

682
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:33,080
So, you know, like would I still
pick a Quinta Reuben 14 over

683
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,000
this 15 year?
Yeah, any day of the week.

684
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,200
There's a lot more depth and
complexity of flavor, especially

685
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,120
because of the kinds of barrels
they're using to to age it in.

686
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,040
I'm going to give this a six out
of 10 on value.

687
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,800
And for me, that brings me out
to a 35 1/2 Brad.

688
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,080
Wow, we're not going to be 10
points away, but we're somewhat

689
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,400
close.
I think it's an 8 out of 10 on

690
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:02,480
value at 100 bucks.
That like this fits the profile

691
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,440
of $100 Highland whiskey that
has been aged for 15 years.

692
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:10,400
I'm at a 44 out of 50, Robert.
Wow.

693
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,680
OK.
So that takes us to a 79.5 on

694
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:20,200
average or I guess total and on
average a 39.75 out of 50.

695
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,920
So it's just shy of that 40
mark.

696
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,000
Thanks largely to me.
Thanks.

697
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,680
Actually, entirely to me, And I
will say, like I would give this

698
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:32,960
a tentative thumbs up, like it's
not a bad whiskey.

699
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,040
I find it to be very pleasant.
I don't know that I would run

700
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,960
out and spring triple digits for
it just because there's not

701
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,360
enough kind of distinct
character to me.

702
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,000
But if somebody offered me a
pour of this, this is a

703
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,640
delightful little whiskey for
me.

704
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,920
And Brad, it sounds like it's
much more than that for you.

705
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,160
Yeah, I really enjoyed it.
I I wouldn't call it one of my

706
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:56,280
top scotches of all time, but it
is in that 40 plus range that is

707
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,560
a absolute easy recommend. 2
thumbs up.

708
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,520
All right, man.
Well, what do you say we get

709
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,600
back into talking about How to
Train Your Dragon, a movie that

710
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,320
we are much more in unison
about?

711
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,720
Absolutely, man.
Let's get to it.

712
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,920
All right, everybody.
That was Glengoine 15 year, a

713
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,040
single malt Scotch that has a
singular place in my heart, Bob.

714
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,400
You are a true lover of Scotch
man I'm happy for.

715
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:33,320
You oh dude, I just, it like for
a long while there I had 0

716
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:38,400
bourbons that I enjoyed for like
months and this season we have

717
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,520
had a few that I'm like, oh
Dang, This is why I like

718
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,200
bourbon.
But it's always with like triple

719
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,960
digit bourbons.
So like I, I know that I'm

720
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,920
getting very Snooty that that is
apparent to me in the world of

721
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,960
bourbon.
However, in the world of Scotch,

722
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,840
man I man, I'll drink just about
anything because it's going to

723
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,800
be better than almost anything
made in America.

724
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,960
A bold statement.
You have really staked your

725
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,600
claim here, man.
So I think I disagree with you

726
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,480
on that, but that was a darn
good whiskey and I think that's

727
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,120
as far as I'm willing to go on
that one, Brad.

728
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,720
Similarly, we will be at odds
with each other when it comes to

729
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,240
our next game, which we call 2
facts and a falsehood.

730
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:28,440
Brad is going to try to stump
your ball. 2 are right and what

731
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,800
is wrong 2.
Facts and a Falsehood 2.

732
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,000
Facts and a Falsehood is the
part of the show where Brad

733
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,600
presents me with three items as
fact about the making of this

734
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,080
movie, one of which is a
complete lie.

735
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:44,480
I'm still crawling my way back
from the two game hole that

736
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,520
Patrick Williams put me in a few
weeks back.

737
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,240
Brad, I think I have finally
canceled out that horrible loss,

738
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:52,800
but I would like to get back on
top here.

739
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,320
So hit me with those two Facts
and a falsehood.

740
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:00,200
Fact #1 The name of the village
Burke is a British derogatory

741
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,800
term derived from the Cockney
rhyming slang Berkeley Hunt.

742
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,000
Burke is commonly used as an
affectionate put down for a fool

743
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,160
by people unaware of its true
origins.

744
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,840
Fact #2 The Night Fury dragon
species was originally going to

745
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,560
be more wolf like in appearance.
Instead, a DreamWorks employees

746
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,600
computer screensaver of a black
leopard inspired the film's

747
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,720
creators to make Toothless more
feline in appearance.

748
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,800
Fact #3 Foley artist Denny
Thorpe and Jana Vance created

749
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,920
the various dragon roars and
shrieks through a combination of

750
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,720
vacuum cleaners, angry cat
sounds, and food processors.

751
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,320
I hope #3 is true, so I'm just
going to pretend like it is.

752
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,840
I did see something I told you.
I read the Wikipedia page, so I,

753
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,960
I read something on there that
said something about them

754
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,240
mimicking a Black Panther for
Toothless.

755
00:43:55,240 --> 00:44:00,560
So you know, I'm, I'm going to
assume that it's similar to the

756
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,840
one that you, what did you say?
Black Jaguar or something?

757
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,880
Black Leopard.
Black Leopard.

758
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,440
OK, so I'm going to give you the
benefit of the doubt and say

759
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,440
that you didn't just make that
up because it's pretty much

760
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,160
true.
And I don't think you'd be that

761
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,640
nitpicky to change just that
little bit, which kind of leaves

762
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:25,400
me with #1 as my falsehood here.
However, that's a lot of detail

763
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,040
for you to go into to make up
Brad like that.

764
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,000
That was an excessive amount of
made-up detail.

765
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:36,000
Never once made-up lots of
details for a fact or a

766
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,480
falsehood.
I know you haven't, that's why

767
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,400
I'm saying that.
Yeah, definitely, definitely

768
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,000
didn't do it this time, Bob.
But I'm going to say that the

769
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,560
what's it called when you
eliminate things, the process of

770
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:53,800
elimination has led me to say #1
I'd I'm not super confident in

771
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,440
this, Brad, but I'm going to
lock in #1 because of my

772
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,280
Sherlock Holmes level deductive
reasoning skills.

773
00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:05,360
And I will point out that your
Sherlock level deductive

774
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,760
reasoning included, I want #3 to
be true.

775
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,680
So we're just going to move on.
Which one was false, Brad?

776
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:20,080
#3 was the falsehood, Bob.
Your flawless deductive

777
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,360
reasoning has failed you once
again.

778
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:25,560
Damn, I hate when I pair my
deductive reasoning with my

779
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,440
wants and needs and desires.
It's terrible.

780
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,800
Being human is rough, man.
Man, I really wanted that to be

781
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,560
true because it's, it kind of
reminds me of, you know, the

782
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,480
stories about how they made the
T Rex sounds in Jurassic Park

783
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,120
and like the the random things.
And I just think that's so cool.

784
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:46,200
Like when you watch Foley
artists make something so on, on

785
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,200
that note and on the note of
like things being made-up and

786
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,640
borrowed from IMDb.
Brad, this is a movie that is

787
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,920
based on a book series, which I
had no idea about until

788
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,880
yesterday.
Like, I've watched this movie

789
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,200
567 times.
I had no idea this was based on

790
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,960
pre-existing IP and it was based
on a pretty popular children's

791
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,200
book series.
But I, I, you know, I went and

792
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,400
clicked through to that link on
Wikipedia just to read the

793
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,440
synopsis of the plot.
It's super different than what

794
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,720
they came up with for this movie
because Toothless was like a, it

795
00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:22,600
wouldn't like the, the tiny
little Dragons that are like

796
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,520
nuisances.
I don't know if he's actually

797
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,640
one of those, but they, they
talk about him being undersized

798
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,400
and disobedient and actually
Toothless.

799
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,360
And so like, that's his
endearing quality.

800
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,160
And Hiccup does train him and
they end up killing a bad dragon

801
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,440
at the end of the book.
So like, maybe the broad strokes

802
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,080
of this the story are still
there, but like they've changed

803
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,080
pretty much everything else
about this story.

804
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,080
Yeah, and I, I think it was a
good thing because what you just

805
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,520
described sounds like nothing
that I want to watch.

806
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,280
I, I mean, I was reading the,
the Wikipedia as well, or, or

807
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,440
maybe it's on IMDb.
And basically they were like

808
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:07,320
DreamWorks had Pete Doctor in
place to direct the film of

809
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,200
Animaniacs fame, Pinky and the
Brain.

810
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:11,560
I don't know if you've ever
heard of those, Bob.

811
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:12,880
I love me some pinky and the
brain.

812
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,480
What a great theme song.
Have you rewatched Pinky and the

813
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,080
Brain since you got into
watching Orson Welles movies?

814
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,200
No, I haven't.
It it explains so much once

815
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,080
you've seen like Citizen Kane.
Yeah, I, I'm going to go back

816
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,440
and watch an episode now.
The thing with Pete Doctor was

817
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,960
he wrote a script that stayed
extraordinarily faithful to the

818
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,640
books, and DreamWorks saw it and
was like, yeah, nobody's going

819
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,400
to come to this unless they're
like 7 or younger, and we want

820
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,760
more broad appeal.
So they brought in Dean de

821
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,640
Blois.
I think that's how it's

822
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,640
pronounced.
And he nailed it, man.

823
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,280
How do you say this guy's last
name?

824
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:59,480
De Blois.
De Blois Yeah, I think you

825
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,280
nailed it.
Listen, we may make fun of his

826
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,920
name.
I will not make fun of his work.

827
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,720
He did a really good job with
this movie.

828
00:48:05,720 --> 00:48:08,600
Brad, you know, I don't really
have a lot of notes here.

829
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,400
Like, obviously I I took down
some movies that I think kind of

830
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,120
inspired this one.
But I think that might be better

831
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,240
saved for us to go ahead and get
into our last segment, which we

832
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:21,600
call Let's make it a double.
We're near the end of the

833
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,960
episode, so thanks listening to
the film and Whiskey show.

834
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,520
Let's pair another film with
this one, even if it's

835
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,200
struggling.
It's the final segment of the

836
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:30,600
day.
Now let's make it a double.

837
00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:33,440
Let's make it a Double is
presented by Blackwood

838
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,560
Distilling Company.
It's the part of the show where

839
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,480
we pick a movie to pair up with
this one to make the perfect

840
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,400
double feature.
Brad, I'd like to hear your

841
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,280
double feature first because I
think there's a couple obvious

842
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,880
directions we could go with this
one.

843
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,360
But you know, sometimes you
throw me a curveball, so I'm

844
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:50,760
excited to hear where you go
with this one.

845
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,920
Yeah, I I mean, I do want to
share my my one note that I

846
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:01,160
wrote down when I finished
Better Than the Iron Giant.

847
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:07,320
No Boo Boo.
That, that, that was my one

848
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,360
note.
I'll probably write it down for

849
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,000
every single animated film I
ever watched.

850
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:17,800
Sure, sure, sure.
I think that I am going to pair

851
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,720
this with a a little bit of a
strange pairing.

852
00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:25,560
I'm going to go live action.
I think I'm going to pair this

853
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,920
with Harry Potter and the
Sorcerer's Stone.

854
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,120
Dude, So I will let you explain
your reasoning.

855
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,240
One of the films that I wrote
down that would be kind of

856
00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:38,400
obvious pairings for this was
Harry Potter and the Goblet of

857
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:43,480
Fire, because of the dragon
sequences, which I think pretty

858
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:48,040
clearly influenced the way they
did the training arena in this

859
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,640
movie.
Yeah, sure.

860
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,360
Anyway, Sorcerer's Stone, I'm
sorry, I don't need to step on

861
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:53,320
your.
Let's make it a double.

862
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,400
Now the the thing that I found
myself enjoying this time

863
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,160
through, you know, twice in a
month on how to train your

864
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:07,480
dragon was like getting lost in
the world and just like enjoying

865
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:15,520
how cool this scandal Scottish
dragon world that's being

866
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,440
created around me.
And it really reminded me of

867
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,000
what Chris Columbus does in the
first Harry Potter and how he

868
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,600
brings this magical world to
life.

869
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:29,160
And even if it, you know, is the
most childlike movie and the

870
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:34,600
movie most intended for younger
kids, even as an adult you still

871
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,680
feel the magic coming to life.
And it just hit me.

872
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,760
I was like man, How to Train
Your Dragon really reminded me

873
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,520
of that vibe.
Honestly, do you know what it is

874
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:44,720
for me?
Because I thought about

875
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,040
Sorcerer's Stone at 1.2.
It's the couple shots they have

876
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,960
where they're like flying into
Burke at night over like the

877
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,520
water because it looks so much
like when they're first

878
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,480
approaching Hogwarts on the
boats.

879
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,800
Yeah, totally.
Yeah, I, I think there's

880
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,920
definitely some influence there.
OK, for mine, I'm going to go a

881
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,120
little bit less obvious.
Like I said, I think you could

882
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,240
go Harry Potter.
I think Braveheart would be a

883
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:12,640
pretty obvious choice here, too.
I'm going to pair this up with

884
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,160
another personal favorite of
mine.

885
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:20,000
It's a movie about a young man
who rides on his valiant steed.

886
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,800
He's counted out, and so is the
steed.

887
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,880
They have to work together to
overcome injuries, including a

888
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,600
debilitating leg injury to the
young man where they don't know

889
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,120
if he'll ever walk again.
And yet, together they save the

890
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,120
day and they ride off into
glory.

891
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:40,440
I'm talking about the great 2003
horse racing film Seabiscuit,

892
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,160
one of my personal favorite
movies.

893
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,760
I freaking love Seabiscuit,
dude.

894
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,000
The the more you're talking, I
was like, is is he talking about

895
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,640
Seabiscuit?
I sure am dude, what a good

896
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,600
movie.
Oh honestly dude, I saw it when

897
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,640
it came out and I don't I don't
think I've seen it since I

898
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,320
freaking.
Love it is corny and wonderful

899
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:06,120
and I cry like a baby at the end
of that movie.

900
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,680
I feel like I've shared this
story on the podcast before,

901
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,360
but, you know, who knows if
we're ever going to get to

902
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,960
Seabiscuit.
So when I was in middle school,

903
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,440
I was reading the book
Seabiscuit and I had that moment

904
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:27,040
of like the real world entering
the fantasy I was engaged in in

905
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:32,520
in a wild way where I literally
read the words the bell rang and

906
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:37,960
they were off in study hall.
And the, and the, the, the bell

907
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,000
rang for me to go to the next
class.

908
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,560
And it shook me bro.
I was like a matrix kind of a

909
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,960
thing.
Yes, absolutely.

910
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,680
I was so shook.
That's hilarious, dude.

911
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,760
It's it's What's more funny is
that you remember it so vividly

912
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,160
still to.
This vividly, man, it was.

913
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,800
It was intense.
All right, so those are our

914
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,720
picks for let's make it a double
Harry Potter number one and sea

915
00:53:03,720 --> 00:53:04,920
biscuits.
I think, I think that's the

916
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,560
technical name.
Harry Potter number one, yeah.

917
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,680
NO period one.
But no matter what you choose to

918
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,360
pair this up with, you can
always make it a double with

919
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,000
Blackwood Distilling Company.
And if you go to

920
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921
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922
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,840
on your bottle of Blackwood.
Brad, let's get into final

923
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:29,840
scores here.
Now go ahead.

924
00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:36,840
Dude, it's been a long day.
I worked for like 9-10 hours and

925
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:41,680
I put my kids to bed and then I
mowed my lawn and mulched a

926
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,840
little bit of my front flower
bed.

927
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,520
You know what I'm going to do
after we record this episode?

928
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,280
Bob going.
To drink some Blackwood.

929
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,720
I'm going to drink some
Blackwood toasted one O 5 rye.

930
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,040
It's really good stuff, man.
It is like a it's a fantastic

931
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,920
nightcap whiskey.
Yeah, it is, dude.

932
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,800
All right man, let's get into
final scores here Brad.

933
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,200
I really, really like this movie
and I thought that I was going

934
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,880
to come down in my score pretty
significantly in that first 25

935
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,200
ish minutes.
I was like oh man, this is a

936
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:11,640
bummer.
This is only like an 8 out of

937
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,080
10.
I thought it was like a nine out

938
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:17,040
of 10 and then the end of the
movie happened and I think that

939
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:21,920
I'm going to come all the way up
to a 9.5 out of 10 on this

940
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,800
movie.
I think this is one of the best

941
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,400
animated films of the century,
Brad.

942
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,640
It's super, super good and it's
deserving of a nine and a half.

943
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,840
Oh, I I'm not quite as high as
you on it.

944
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,520
I like, I really like this
movie.

945
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,600
I think it's really fun, well
written.

946
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,080
I think that there's enough
issues with all the secondary

947
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,200
characters.
The animation hasn't aged

948
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:51,520
perfectly and at the end of the
day at I've found myself at a

949
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:59,200
point where there is something
about like introductory movies

950
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:04,560
that I, I struggle to put them
often in the category of like

951
00:55:05,240 --> 00:55:08,400
all time classic or great.
Where it's like so much of this

952
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:14,360
movie is spent like introducing
stuff and it's good and it's

953
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:19,640
well done, but it keeps it from
being like a modern classic for

954
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,520
me.
I guess I'm answering that

955
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,240
question right now.
I'm going to give it an 8 1/2

956
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:27,800
out of 10 Bob.
Really fun, really enjoy it.

957
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,640
I will return to it, especially
as my kids, you know, get older

958
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:35,320
and might enjoy it.
But for now I I'm sitting in an

959
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,320
8 1/2.
I think that's totally fair

960
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,160
because 8 1/2 kind of seems like
the ceiling on.

961
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,520
I think this is a really great
movie that just isn't a classic,

962
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,000
you know what I mean?
Like every movie that I feel

963
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,280
that way about where I'm like,
Dang, what a great movie.

964
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,120
Doesn't quite hit classic marks
for me though.

965
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,640
That makes it an 8 1/2.
I don't know what it is, but

966
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,240
that's kind of what I always
default to.

967
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,920
Yeah, absolutely.
I could maybe give a movie a

968
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:04,320
nine and say it's not a classic,
but 8 1/2 does feel like that

969
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,280
ceiling.
All right, so we've watched a

970
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,120
couple animated films this year,
Brad.

971
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,600
We've done Ratatouille, we've
done Into the Spider Verse now

972
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,000
we've done this one.
Did we do any other Pixar's

973
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,200
Inside Out?
We did Inside Out.

974
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:21,320
Oh, we did, yeah.
So does this one fall short of

975
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,480
those other three or like where
would you kind of rank them so

976
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:29,840
far?
That's interesting, I didn't

977
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,560
want to like Into the Spider
verse but I found myself really

978
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,640
liking it.
I think I gave it an 8 1/2.

979
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,280
Ratatouille is great.
Really love that movie.

980
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,360
I might have given that an 8 1/2
as well.

981
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:45,920
Maybe a nine.
An Inside Out is is a classic

982
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,800
that that would be my favorite
of the four.

983
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:54,360
I think I would put How to Train
Your dragon probably in 3rd or

984
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,720
4th place, leaning towards
fourth among those 4.

985
00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:01,840
But I don't know man, I I might
return to it more times than the

986
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,920
other ones in my life.
Like, like, it really is just a

987
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,560
fun movie.
It's a super entertaining movie.

988
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,560
That's The thing is like Inside
Out is a really good movie that

989
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,760
I'm almost never in the mood to
watch.

990
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:14,960
You know what I mean and.
Like.

991
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,480
Sure.
How to Train Your Dragon is a

992
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,200
movie where I'm just like, yeah,
this is in dad movie territory.

993
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,120
Like if I catch part of this on
cable, I'll probably stick

994
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,520
around and watch a lot of it.
And that's saying something for

995
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,640
an animated movie.
So all right, it's a nine from

996
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,960
us on average, but we'd like to
know what you think.

997
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,600
Have you seen How to Train Your
Dragon?

998
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,680
And I guess the real question is
how many times?

999
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,400
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1001
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1002
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1003
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the end of every single one of
our show notes.

1004
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:55,080
Next week, a movie that is the
spiritual cousin of the gigantic

1005
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,320
dragon that bursts out of a
mountain at the end of this

1006
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,040
movie.
We're talking about 2023's

1007
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:05,480
Japanese classic Godzilla -1
cannot freaking wait for you to

1008
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,560
watch this movie, Brad.
I am so jacked like this.

1009
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,160
This is a movie I truly made an
effort to go see in theaters.

1010
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,680
It never worked out.
And I and then I, I held on to

1011
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,200
it because I knew we were doing
this season.

1012
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,440
So I I am so pumped to do this
man.

1013
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,320
All right, join us for that one
next week.

1014
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,320
But until then, I'm Bob Book.
I'm Brad G.

1015
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:52,920
And we'll see you next time.
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