The Princess Bride / Bushmills Red Bush
Bob and Brad wrap up their mini-series of three films by director Rob Reiner with his 1987 comedy classic The Princess Bride. The script for this movie, by screenwriter William Goldman, is considered one of the best ever, but how does Reiner's direction stack up? Our hosts power-rank the 9 main actors of the movie before pivoting to whiskey.
This week, they go back to the Bushmills line to try Bushmills Red Bush. Like the standard white label expression, this Irish whiskey is a blend of single malt and grain whiskeys, but they're aged exclusively in first-fill bourbon barrels, which Bushmills hopes translates to a gateway entry into Irish whiskey for bourbon drinkers. At only a $22 price, what will our hosts think?
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In 1987 director, Rob, Reiner
and Star, Andre the Giant gave
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the world a hilariously epic.
Children's story, that will
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sweep you off your feet in 2022.
We returned to Ireland, to try
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another in a long line of
popular Whiskey's.
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The film is The Princess Bride,
the whiskey is Bushmills red
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bush and we'll review them both.
This is the film and whiskey
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podcast.
Welcome to the film and whiskey
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podcast, where each week, we
review a classic movie and a
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glass of whiskey.
I'm Bob book, I'm Reggie.
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And this week, we're looking at
the 1987 film, The Princess
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Bride.
We're rounding out a mini series
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of Three movies by director, Rob
Reiner, and we have gone kind of
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out of analyze it.
Kind of, we've gone out of
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chronological order here.
We started in 1990 with Misery,
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we jumped ahead a couple years
to A Few Good Men and now we are
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returning to the late 80s with
our buddy.
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Rob to look at The Princess
Bride.
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Perhaps his most beloved film
question mark.
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I mean, actually is most famous.
I don't know, man, When Harry
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Met Sally, he's got to be up
there in both categories.
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Oh yeah, that's true.
And A Few Good Men.
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I just like the man just makes
good maybes.
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I was going to say, how did you
make such good movies, man?
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I mean, listen to this run.
So he does this a spinal tap in
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84?
He follows it up in 85 with the
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movie called the sure thing
which is not a classic but it's
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a well-liked movie.
He follows that up in 86 with
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stand by me then The Princess
Bride.
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When Harry Met Sally misery and
A Few Good Men all back to back.
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Wow, like what a run to I was
going to say, tell me how many
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Directors have a run of six,
seven movies like that.
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That's better, like, kind of
insane.
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Like that are all be to a -
movies with a few like true
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All-Stars, pepper didn't.
And it like, like, When Harry
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Met Sally is one of the best
romantic comedies of all time.
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Well, in The Princess Bride.
And of course, we're going to
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get into talking about this
today, but like I said, it has
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not just a cult following you,
right?
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It's not like a small group of
people, but there is a Devoted
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fanbase of The Princess Bride
Brad.
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I, you know, I remember, I dated
a girl in college that was
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really into The Princess Bride,
and her whole family had watched
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it when they were growing up,
and she knew every line.
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And like, that wasn't me.
That wasn't my experience
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growing up, but something tells
me that they're not.
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The only ones that are like
that.
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I know that this is an endlessly
quotable film, and there are a
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lot of people out there that
hold, this screenplay by William
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Goldman, in really high regard.
Yeah.
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And and I will say like my first
time watching it was I think
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sophomore year of high school I
was on a school field trip out
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to Boston and I remember some
friends had like a you remember
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the portable DVD players?
Oh yeah.
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They were watching The Princess
Bride and I watched like three
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minutes of it with them right?
When they're in the fire swamp
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and the Met like the the rodents
of unusual size who are clearly
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just And in really gross.
Yeah, rodents costumes like
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attacked him.
And I just looked at my friends
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and I was like, what are you
watching?
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This is the dumbest thing I've
ever seen in my life and they're
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like, oh it's The Princess.
Bride is a great movie man.
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And I was like, now, this is not
a great movie, this is terrible.
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And so I just went for many many
years after that, it probably
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wasn't until like post-college
where I watched it and was like,
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oh this is a great movie.
So here's where I'm at with the
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princes bride.
It's really hard for me to know
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what elements of this movie are
done on purpose and which ones
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aren't.
And I don't mean like the silly
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elements of it or things like
that, but you're talking about
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the rodents of unusual size.
I actually loved that scene in
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this movie even though you could
clearly tell that it was people
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in a large rodent costume.
Yep.
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Because there was something
about the way that those things
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jumped on Cary Elwes has
character and there's like such
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a weight to it and you can tell
that he's really fighting with
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something on camera in real
life.
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And after years, and years and
years of horrible CGI,
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everything that has a
weightlessness to it.
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I was like I would take this any
day of the week.
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Over another CGI rat.
You know what I mean?
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Oh, 100%.
And like the other part of it is
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they say that like every comedy
is all about timing, right?
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The moment when He says, what
line does he say?
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He goes rodents of unusual size.
I don't think they exist.
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Yeah.
And it's like the moment and I
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think that's like it illustrates
everything that Reiner does
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properly in this movie that his
his comedic timing.
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I don't know if we've seen many
directors with better comedic
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timing than Rob Reiner.
Well, so that gets me back to
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what I was just saying which is
like there are elements of this
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movie that look really cheesy.
And Really fake, right?
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It's 1987 and of course, you
know, certain elements of our
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technology have advanced since
then.
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But there's also a sense that
some of this is being done on
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purpose because it's supposed to
be a fairy tale and not just a
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fairy tale but a fairy tale
where everyone is in on the joke
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like it's very clearly a joke,
fairy tale in a similar way that
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you would talk about like Shrek,
you know what I mean?
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Like this is a this is a pretend
children's story within a story
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being told to a sick
ten-year-old in the You know, in
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the world of this movie.
So I understand that like they
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might be trying to make the
movie look even more fake than
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usual, but then you kind of run
into this thing.
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We've been talking about with
Reiner for the last couple of
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weeks, which is, I don't always
know if his visual sense is up
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to par because for a good
portion of this movie, it kind
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of looks like it's being lit
with fluorescent lights like in
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an office building.
Like it's just even though
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they're inside of a castle, like
the lighting can be very And
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then all, you know, all of a
sudden you'll get a shot, like,
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Inigo Montoya annealing with his
sword, in the air, and it's the
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greatest most cinematic shot
ever.
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And then you'll go back to 18
shots in a row that looked like
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they were shot, you know, in
somebody's garage and it's just
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really hard for me to be able to
parse out this movie in terms of
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like what's intentional and
what's not.
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Yeah, it seems like he would
have had had to have had a,
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something of, a decent budget
for this.
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I mean, you know, this Point.
He's gotten Stand By Me, spinal
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tap.
Like I feel like it's not like
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he's just some indie director at
this point.
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So if it feels like he should
have had a little bit of money
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to up the production budget a
little bit, but I agree.
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Like they're many of the sets
look like built sets that had
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like you said I fluorescent
lighting almost.
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Yeah.
But the lighting just doesn't
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often make sense and I think
it's really clear when they're
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being fake on purpose but Then
there are also times where it
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seems like oh no.
They're really trying here and
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it just doesn't look right.
I don't know.
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I just, you know, I think part
of that is the fact that Rob
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Reiner comes from TV and you
know, he doesn't necessarily
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have the Hollywood pedigree but
I mean, you know, definitely
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like literally has the Hollywood
pedigree.
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How we're gonna, we haven't
talked about, you know, his dad
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being Carl Reiner at all the
whole time.
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We've been doing these three
weeks of Rob Reiner.
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I mean, he comes from Hollywood
royalty, the man is, you know,
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he's made good but he's a
nepotism baby in a A lot of
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ways.
Yeah.
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Hey man, you know, harsh there,
that help who your parents are I
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guess?
Well, I was just saying, what's
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wrong with a little bit of
nepotism.
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Asked the offensive coordinator
of the Iowa Hawkeyes, I was
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gonna say, look at the the
friends family, man.
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All right, Brad it's time for us
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means should, I should I say
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Alright, let's get into Brad
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This is the part of the podcast,
where Brad breaks down the plot
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of the movie that he has just
seen often for the first time.
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This was not Brad's first time
seeing The Princess Bride, which
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means These 60 seconds should be
pretty easy for you to fit the
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plot into Brad.
You got a minute on the clock
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and go.
Wow, Fred Savage lies in his bed
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sick at home.
His grandfather comes to tell
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him a fairy tale to help keep
his mind off of being sick.
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The story is about a farm boy,
who is goes off to make a
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fortune to win his love.
He is captured by a pirate.
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His love goes to marry the
prince The farm boy turned.
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Pirate comes back to Rescue his
princess in a, in a series of
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Daring adventures and he
eventually fights off death
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itself to make it back and
rescue his true love.
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There you go.
Alright.
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Brad, where do you want to start
today?
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Do you want to start with Rob,
right?
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I feel like we've kind of
already touched on Reiner a
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little bit.
Do you want to keep going with
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Reiner?
Do you want to jump into this
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screenplay?
Do you want to start talking
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performances?
I want to talk about the star of
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this movie.
The one and only Andre the Giant
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dude.
It's not Andre the Giant.
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This is Andre Renee the ruse.
Mm-hmm, dude.
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I just all I know about this man
is that he might be the largest
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human being to live on this
Earth since Goliath and Biblical
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times.
And his, have you ever seen the
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picture of him holding a beer?
Can, yes.
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It is yes, the most wild thing
I've ever seen in my life.
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I've watched so many
documentaries about Andre the
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Giant at this point in my life.
That I mean, I've heard all the
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stories, right?
The he would drink literally
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like 120 beers or something.
And one sitting, which is also
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like, you know, I feel bad
talking about his untimely
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death, but like, that might have
contributed just a bit probably
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not, you know, no.
Oh, come on now.
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Definitely not.
I mean, the man was 74 500-plus.
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Pounds and I'm not going to lie.
He and Mandy Patinkin might have
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the best chemistry of any duo.
In any movie we have ever
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watched they're just wonderful.
Like I mean it's here's the
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thing I really feel like I'm
going to be playing bad cop on
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this episode and I don't mean to
be because this movie is
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charming as hell.
And I enjoy it so much, but of
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all the people, you could have
started talking about the
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performances with Brad.
You had to start with Andre the
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Giant whom whom I love and who
is incredibly endearing.
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Yes, but thank God for subtitles
on Disney plus streaming.
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Like, even with the subtitles I
had to like, press pause and go
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back and listen.
Again, because the man's grasp
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on the English language is just
not sound and not very firm.
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Like like he's just really, he's
not a good actor in the first.
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Place, which you could forgive
because he's Andre the Giant.
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And like, where else are you
going to get a 7-foot for 500
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pound person to act in your
movie but like he can't deliver
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lines like his mouth.
Just won't make the words.
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No, they won't.
And I think that's what makes
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him so perfect.
Is the hey the fact that Mandy
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Patinkin has such an endearing
love for Andre the Giant, like I
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guess I should say any go and
fezzik have such A brotherhood
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and like a deep lasting
connection that there's
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something about that, that makes
Andre the Giant that like you
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said, he is charming and
endearing and his accent is so
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bad.
That I don't know if I ever
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fully picked up on the rhyming
joke, right?
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Start of the movie which is a
major component of the movie,
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like it comes back three times I
think.
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Yeah.
And it's brilliant.
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Like it is some of the it's some
of the Best comedic writing and
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acting that I've ever seen
except for the part where,
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unless you accept of the apples
on.
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Yeah.
Well, not the acting part.
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Just the line delivery.
There's more to acting than just
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just speaking.
Bob.
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Yeah, man, I just, I really
struggle with Andre the Giant
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because, like you said, he and
Mandy Patinkin.
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Have incredible chemistry.
And the funny part of this, this
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movie is that certain actors
have to take their rules.
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Seriously for the movie to work
like Mandy Patinkin has to play
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this completely straight and
even somebody like Chris
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Sarandon as you know the evil
Prince, he's playing it
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seriously what Bob Prince
Humperdinck?
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There we go.
So he's playing it seriously but
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he's also playing.
He's Hamming it up on purpose,
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right?
Like it is an overshot villain,
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whereas Mandy Patinkin is
playing this as if he's like
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trying to win an Oscar in a
drama and yeah he's taking the
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Spanish accent.
So seriously.
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Instead of just doing like the
normal Hollywood thing of like
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I'm an American, who's going to
kind of speak with a Spanish
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accent and that's what you're
going to get.
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He's like he does that he kind
of slurs his words a little bit
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where you normally would when
you have a Spanish accent and he
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elides certain words together
and things like that.
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And so at times you're like what
did Mandy Patinkin just say and
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then and so they're just whole
scenes that hang in the balance
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between Mandy Patinkin and Andre
the Giant and I only understood
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like five words.
Between the two of them but you
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walk away from that scene, still
being entertained and amused.
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I got so man even though you
don't know what they said, I
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think a fun way to do this Brad.
I'm looking for the cast list
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right now and obviously there
are certain people in this movie
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that pop up like Billy Crystal
and Carol, Kane and extended
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cameos, Peter Cook as the
clergyman.
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But there's really like nine
people in this movie that have
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speaking parts that are
Stanshall, okay.
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So Cary Elwes Robin right?
Mandy Patinkin, Andre the Giant.
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You've got Chris Sarandon
Christopher, Guest Wallace,
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Shawn and then Fred Savage and
Peter Falk.
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I think that would be like the
cast if I could call them that.
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Yeah, I kind of want to like
power rank the people in this
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movie and I'm be really
interested to hear.
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Maybe the way to do it is just
kind of like walk from number
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nine up to number one.
And give me some candidates for
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who you think is the Ninth Place
person in this movie.
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I was going to say now.
What are you?
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What are we judging on
Effectiveness within the movie.
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Actual just acting ability.
Kind of both.
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I mean, like, you know, is your
character interesting Ru?
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Ru charismatic?
Are you memorable?
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Are you a good actor?
Like all those the, you know,
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Andre, the Giant is the worst
actor here by a lot, right?
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Yeah, I don't know if I would
power ranked him number 9 in
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this movie.
Now, number 9, Number 9.
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Is he real with?
No, no, I was gonna say.
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Number nine is Robin, right?
But I think just gives choose
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Gonna Be My Number 8, this gets
at the problem of movies like
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this, like Beauty and the Beast.
We talked about this beauty,
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like Belle and the Beast are the
two least interesting
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characters.
In that movie The Supporting
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roles are always more, flashy,
and flamboyant, and charismatic,
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and memorable in movies like
this.
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I think Cary Elwes is
phenomenal, and he has to do a
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lot of Physical comedy,
especially at the end of the
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movie where he can't quite walk
anymore.
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And it reminded me of a lot of
the pratfalls that they made
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like Neil Patrick Harris.
Do on How I Met Your Mother.
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Yeah, yeah, there was a lot of
that going on here.
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So he has like one foot in kind
of, like, the classic Vaudeville
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style of Comedy.
Robin Wright's character, it's
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me there.
Robin Wright's at the bottom.
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Robin Wright has nothing to do
in this movie and she's a great
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actress and I love her to death,
but like you could have put a
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cardboard cut out of a human
being in her place and just
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voiced over like no Prince
Humperdinck and it would have
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had the same effect and I feel
like you could have done that
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and people would be like yeah
it's The Princess Bride that's
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why it's so funny and Brilliant.
And I again I feel bad saying
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that because it's not like Robin
Wright.
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Does anything inherently wrong
here?
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It tasted like she's supposed to
be mopey and she does that and
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that's it.
Her, her stunt double does a
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phenomenal.
Old job of falling down that
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hill just her Cletus km.
Lee, male stunt up with an
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awesome.
Awesome.
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Blond wig.
Oh my gosh.
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All right, let's go number
eight.
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Who would you put in here?
I think I'd probably put Cary
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Elwes.
All right, I like ideality of
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good.
I enjoy his vaudevillian humor
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but similarly the Buttercup.
He just kind of plays one
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character.
He's kind of a one-note
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character throughout.
The entire thing, I get that I
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think that this movie Works
significantly less.
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Well if you have an actor in
here with worst comic timing.
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Yeah.
It it's saying something about
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how well he's able to deliver
lines like you seemed a decent
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fellow.
I hate to die like that's it's a
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great line and he just, yeah, I
think that's why he's probably
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top three for me honestly, man.
But Lissa, I'll put him at.
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I'll put him at 8:00.
Whoa, I didn't realize this is
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our combined if you're putting
in that high.
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Well, who are you thinking in
the Ada?
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I don't know, man.
I feel like everyone kind of
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like morphs together and then
there's a couple standouts,
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right?
Like I don't know, we could put
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Fred Savage at eight like he
doesn't really do much except
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sit in the bed.
Yeah, that's fine.
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Fred Savage and a Fred Savage,
who do you guys 7?
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I don't know, man, how are you
feeling about Peter Falk?
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He has a little bit of like a
lazy eye going on and I freaking
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love it.
Are you see, is that these are
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you allowed to say that in 2022?
Or you like to call it a lazy
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eye?
Is that like, is that like
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incorrect now?
Yeah.
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I mean, maybe it's just like a
slightly unmotivated.
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I that's been oppressed by his
other eye.
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I don't know.
Oh my gosh, it's so beautiful.
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Cake is an incredible actor and
I mean, I love Jambo.
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I think it's really interesting
to see him in this movie,
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because he's only 60 years old
in this movie, and they clearly
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have him made up to look much
older than he is.
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And they don't really make him
up very well.
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It kind of looks like how we did
old age makeup in like high
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school when we were doing like
theater and they were just like
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draw lines on your forehead to
make you look like you had
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deeper creases and yep and he's
wearing this wig.
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That is so clearly a wig.
And I think that that's one of
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the areas where I'm like, Is
this on purpose because this
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isn't the fairy tale part of the
movie.
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Like why is Peter Falk six?
Who is 60 years old?
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I just don't get it.
Yeah, I think that where he wins
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the day is like he's the most
Charming grandpa I think that
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has ever existed.
Yeah and he just has a way of
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interacting with Fred Savage
that I think, shows how
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important it is to have really
experienced actors with child
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actors.
Hours to help kind of draw a
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good performance out of them.
Because I think that the the
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scene, you know, there's only a
few of them but the scenes
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between Savage & Falk are really
actually really incredible and
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it honestly makes me think about
the way we've been scouring our
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directors.
I feel like reinders highest
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category might end up be the way
he works with addict actors
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because it just seems like he
continues to get great
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performances out of people.
All right.
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I will put Cary Elwes at six
because I don't want to put them
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to high based on how you feel
about him.
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If you will put Andre the Giant
at Five, I'll put them at five.
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Alright, I think that's fair.
All right, so that gives us for
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people to talk about here, we've
got Wallace, Shawn, we've got
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Christopher Guest, Chris
Sarandon, and Mandy Patinkin.
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And I'm going to kind of go in
the opposite order here, Brad
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because I'm thinking about, this
was going to be my big reveal.
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I think, Christopher Guest might
steal this whole movie.
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And I'm really surprised to say
that because his character is
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like a nothing character.
And he's kind of also Hamming it
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up but also not having it.
I don't know how to explain it.
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It's like it's like if you took
Jeremy Irons as Scar in The Lion
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King but told him to do it as
subdued as possible.
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So there are still elements of
his character that are
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over-the-top and campy but he
does it in such a like Strained
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way.
He never liked gets very
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emotional throughout the movie
and eat when he's menacing.
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He's really menacing.
And when he has a line, that
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makes him look like a buffoon,
he he says it in such a straight
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way that it almost takes you a
second.
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And and I think honestly to part
of it is like he came up in a
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Few Good Men and we forgot to
talk about him like he's in that
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movie for a hot second.
And it's so it's just so
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interesting to see you know,
Nigel from spinal tap show up in
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a Few Good Men.
And then show up in this movie
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and play three completely
different characters that are so
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well constructed that you forget
that it's Nigel.
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From spinal tap?
Yeah, I was going to say
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Christopher Guest was my number
two.
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Hmm.
He just has an incredible
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presence about him that even
when he's next to, you know,
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Prince Humperdinck.
It feels like he's the one who's
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really in control like he's the
master hot mine behind the whole
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situation and I think it's
Because of what you said that he
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he is almost like clinically
devoid of emotions.
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Yeah.
Like he has this psychotic.
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Killer feel about him where your
but the fact that he's in a
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comedy and he's just interested
in the science of pain and
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suffering your kind of like he's
like over-the-top evil like
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clearly the most evil person out
of everybody in this movie and
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yet the way he delivers the line
fascinating just as Cary Elwes
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is just screaming on the torture
machine just is brilliant and so
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yeah I'm with you.
That I think guest is a
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phenomenal part of this movie.
So would Patinkin be your number
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one?
Then dude, when his seen when
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guests stabs him a few times and
like, throws the knife into his
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gut and he just slowly builds
and builds and builds.
439
00:24:58,300 --> 00:25:00,500
I like got the freaking chills
man.
440
00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,800
What?
And when he tells him to bag yes
441
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,300
because beg beg for your life
because anything, anything I'll
442
00:25:07,300 --> 00:25:10,200
give you money, I'll give you
power everything I have and more
443
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,700
And the way he delivers, I want
my father back, you son of a
444
00:25:14,700 --> 00:25:20,400
bitch, it's such a good lab so
it's worthy of like, the most
445
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,500
epic of Epic movies.
It's a better line than hello.
446
00:25:24,500 --> 00:25:28,200
My name is Inigo Montoya.
It's a better line than you
447
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,900
seemed a decent fellow.
I hate to kill you.
448
00:25:29,900 --> 00:25:33,100
It's, it's the best line.
It's better than inconceivable,
449
00:25:33,100 --> 00:25:35,100
which is the big movement a
smoothie, right?
450
00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:38,400
It's the best line in the film
and easily.
451
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,300
It's because there's such an
emotional payoff.
452
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,900
But it also makes me wonder if
William Goldman is the one who
453
00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:46,900
wrote the son of a line in A Few
Good Men.
454
00:25:46,900 --> 00:25:49,000
Because remember, we talked
about how even though that is a
455
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,300
Sorkin script Goldman came in
and touched it up a little bit.
456
00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:54,200
Hmm.
And I thought my favorite line
457
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,500
in A Few Good Men is when he
says you're under arrest, you
458
00:25:56,500 --> 00:25:58,400
son of a bitch like so maybe.
Yeah.
459
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,700
He's just has the key to good
lines and it's just ending it
460
00:26:01,700 --> 00:26:06,400
with your son of a.
It seems like a pretty easy way
461
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,200
to do it for.
So for all you young
462
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,700
screenwriters out there today.
Take note, I do think that
463
00:26:12,700 --> 00:26:16,400
Patinkin also gets the second
best line of the movie which in
464
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,200
my opinion is the best comedic
line when they're on the boat
465
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:25,800
sailing across the sea of eels.
And he looks back and he goes, I
466
00:26:25,808 --> 00:26:29,700
wonder if they're using the same
Windows us Patinkin.
467
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,000
The thing about Patinkin to is
like underrated comic timing and
468
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,600
he has my favorite comedic
moment of the whole movie, where
469
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:42,600
he's sword, fighting with Cary,
Elwes and Then it's like, who
470
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,500
are you Cary?
Elwes says no one of consequence
471
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,600
and he says, I must know, an LG
says, get used to disappointment
472
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,800
at just the way he goes.
Okay.
473
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,600
And then starts fighting again.
It is a perfect reaction shot,
474
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:57,500
like it's just.
Yeah.
475
00:26:57,500 --> 00:27:00,300
So you could not read the line.
Okay.
476
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,400
Better than that.
No, it's absolutely perfect.
477
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:09,200
And I think it's for so many of
these reasons that I think that
478
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:14,500
Mandy Patinkin, Is easily the
best like indigo is the best
479
00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:18,600
character and Patinkin is the
best performance in this movie.
480
00:27:18,900 --> 00:27:21,700
That leaves us two people to
talk about real quick Wallace,
481
00:27:21,700 --> 00:27:24,700
Shawn and Chris Sarandon.
Let's get Wallace Shawn out of
482
00:27:24,700 --> 00:27:26,200
the way, and I don't mean to say
it like that.
483
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,700
But the reason you have Wallace
Shawn in this movie, is to be
484
00:27:29,700 --> 00:27:32,800
Wallace Shawn.
And yeah, he like, he is a
485
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,000
brilliant writer and actor in
many, many other films besides
486
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,500
this one.
He's in here.
487
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,700
To be like the, the
stereotypical version of Walsh.
488
00:27:44,700 --> 00:27:48,000
It's almost like having Gilbert
godfried in a lattice like, he's
489
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,100
just there to Gilbert.
Not gonna say he feels a lot
490
00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:56,600
like Gilbert godfried and it's
just Wallace Shawn.
491
00:27:56,700 --> 00:27:58,300
Yeah.
And that's what you need him to
492
00:27:58,300 --> 00:28:00,300
be in this movie.
They kind of the same way Andre,
493
00:28:00,300 --> 00:28:05,900
the Giant doesn't have enough
grasp of the English language or
494
00:28:05,900 --> 00:28:08,600
acting capabilities to be
anything more than Andre the
495
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:09,200
Giant.
Yeah.
496
00:28:09,300 --> 00:28:11,900
And he's perfect.
Because of that I think will
497
00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:14,800
say, I think is this our second
Wallace Shawn movie?
498
00:28:15,500 --> 00:28:18,300
Was he in marriage story?
Oh yeah, I forgot that he was in
499
00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:19,900
marriage story.
There you go.
500
00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:22,700
To to Wallace, Shawn movies
down, there you go.
501
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,600
It's also our second movie
featuring Chris Sarandon.
502
00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:31,300
Do you remember the first
Sarandon, what else?
503
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,900
Man, I can't believe what he was
in.
504
00:28:35,900 --> 00:28:39,900
He played Al Pacino's lover in
Dog Day Afternoon.
505
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:45,400
Oh, snap.
Yes, that was Chris, wait, that
506
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,200
was Chris.
I was Chris, he's on the phone
507
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,000
and the barbershop talking
death.
508
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,300
She know in the that's
Christopher and I did not know
509
00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:54,600
that, right.
Talk about two wildly different
510
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,300
performances and I think it
really gets at how good of an
511
00:28:57,300 --> 00:28:59,600
actor Sarandon is and how
versatile he is.
512
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,000
Incredibly good-looking guy.
Guy like really in control here
513
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,300
and he's doing like he's doing a
James Mason impression.
514
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,000
You know, if you remember James
Mason from North by Northwest
515
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,300
the bad guy in North by
Northwest, he's doing James
516
00:29:12,300 --> 00:29:14,500
Mason and he kind of looks like
James Mason.
517
00:29:14,500 --> 00:29:17,800
And so it works really really
well I just I think he's
518
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,700
fantastic in this movie.
He's batting a thousand.
519
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,600
Every time he comes into the
film, he's funny when he needs
520
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,900
to be funny.
He's a coward.
521
00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:27,500
When he needs to be a coward.
He's intimidating when he needs
522
00:29:27,500 --> 00:29:31,600
to be intimidating and I think
he's a great you know, again to
523
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,700
go back to the Comparison, you
know, they have Lithgow as as
524
00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:39,800
Farquaad in that movie and I
think that he's doing his best
525
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,400
Farquaad here, right?
And perhaps even better than
526
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,100
Lithgow.
Yeah.
527
00:29:44,500 --> 00:29:48,900
My question would be, how much
funnier would it have been if
528
00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:52,300
Wallace Shawn was Humperdinck
because I feel like that's the
529
00:29:52,300 --> 00:29:56,900
better, Farquaad comparison,
because rap kind of trashley
530
00:29:56,900 --> 00:30:00,900
five-foot-one, Wallace Shawn the
out there doing his best.
531
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,100
All right, Man, I think we're in
a good place to hit, pause will
532
00:30:04,100 --> 00:30:06,300
come back from the break.
We'll talk about this, you know,
533
00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:09,200
quote unquote, perfectly
structured script, a little bit
534
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,900
more on Rob Reiner and then
we'll get into our final scores.
535
00:30:11,900 --> 00:30:14,800
But first, let's try this
Bushmills, red bush.
536
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,600
What do you say?
Let's get to it.
537
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,300
Some whiskey Nation.
Do you ever think about Awards,
538
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,000
of course you do you drink
whiskey and watch movies which
539
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,500
means that, you know, that
nothing is validated until a
540
00:30:25,508 --> 00:30:28,200
group of random people say hey
we love what you're doing.
541
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,800
The awesome thing about doc
Swensons, whiskey is that it
542
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,500
isn't just Some group of slums
that are given them Awards.
543
00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:37,700
They have been winning attention
from some of the most important
544
00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:39,500
whiskey experts that you can
imagine.
545
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,400
They've been voted best
distillery in Washington state
546
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,300
by the New York International
Spirits competition.
547
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,400
They've been voted the best
Independent bottler by the Ascot
548
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,300
Awards, as well as the best
finished bourbon from the Ascot
549
00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:55,700
awards for their La meant to
exploratory, Cask their sport or
550
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Cask series is where they
release some of the most
551
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,000
fascinating and adventurous
experiments, if you're ever
552
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,100
checking out docs line, A up and
see a white label is a really
553
00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:06,500
good chance that that's the only
time you'll see that bottle.
554
00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:09,700
So, make sure you snatch it up.
Doc Swensons has been offering
555
00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:13,400
just phenomenal finished and
Blended whiskies for quite some
556
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,700
time.
Now, you can find them online at
557
00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:19,400
Doc's, whisky.com, that's doccs
whisky.com.
558
00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:27,500
Alright, today we are checking
out.
559
00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:30,900
Bushmills, red bush.
Brad asked that we can
560
00:31:30,900 --> 00:31:33,400
immediately get the sexual
connotation of the name out of
561
00:31:33,408 --> 00:31:36,400
the way, so there it is.
You know, we're going to talk
562
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,200
about red bush today.
And next week, we're going to
563
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,100
talk about Bushmills Black Bush.
So, depending on your preference
564
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:47,000
of color, join us for more Bush
conversation down the road.
565
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,600
Is that a good enough disclaimer
for you?
566
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:51,800
Are you satisfied now?
Brad.
567
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,900
I'm very satisfied.
All right.
568
00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:58,100
Wonderful.
Bushmills, red bush is, I mean,
569
00:31:58,100 --> 00:32:00,900
like if I can be frank here,
it's kind of just a variation on
570
00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:03,800
regular Bushmills.
So it's nonage stated.
571
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,400
It is a blend of single malt
whiskey and grain whisky that is
572
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:13,700
aged for at least three years
and it's aged in used bourbon
573
00:32:13,700 --> 00:32:16,500
barrels.
So regular Bushmills, is h and a
574
00:32:16,508 --> 00:32:21,300
combo of bourbon and cherry red
bush is aged solely in Bourbon
575
00:32:21,300 --> 00:32:23,900
casks and their first fill so,
like they've been used for
576
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:26,300
bourbon and nothing else that
gets shipped over to Ireland,
577
00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:28,900
the age of them there.
The Black Bush, which will try
578
00:32:28,900 --> 00:32:31,200
next week is aged solely in
Sherry.
579
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,900
So, it's kind of like, you're
getting one half of the process,
580
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,500
but it's going to have a little
bit of that kind of, they're
581
00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:40,600
hoping that this is like a
Gateway into Irish whiskey for
582
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,500
people who only drink Bourbon
and I really like that approach,
583
00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:45,500
Brad.
Because it is sometimes hard to
584
00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:48,600
convince people to try Irish
whiskey or to try Scotch.
585
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,800
If they're only used to that
brown sugar, vanilla thing that
586
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,600
you get from bourbon.
Yeah.
587
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,500
And I think that is Whiskey has
an incredible amount of
588
00:32:58,508 --> 00:33:01,900
experience to offer, any of you,
bourbon drinkers out there.
589
00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:06,000
So, I am, I'm always beating the
drum for my Irish Whiskey's,
590
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,600
which have always kind of had an
attraction for me.
591
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,900
And so yeah, this Bushmills red
bush.
592
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,700
So far, my experience with it
has been pretty positive Bob.
593
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,500
I have not tried it yet, so I'm
trying it live on air.
594
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,400
I'll give a few nosing notes if
you don't mind.
595
00:33:21,700 --> 00:33:24,200
Yeah, go for it.
So, I mean, like, a lot of Irish
596
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,100
Whiskey's, I'm getting a ton of
and on this, I think it's like a
597
00:33:27,108 --> 00:33:28,900
lot of honeydew.
There's actually a little bit of
598
00:33:28,900 --> 00:33:32,600
tropical like, pineapple for me
as well, but more than anything,
599
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,400
it smells like orange juice to
me like fresh, squeezed orange
600
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,900
juice.
Almost like a like a mimosa.
601
00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:42,400
Like, it has a little bit of
that, like, champagne, anything
602
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,100
going on to, I will say Brad
that after sitting with this,
603
00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:50,300
for a couple minutes there is a
really, really faint.
604
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,400
Almost vinegary note for me and
it kind of smells like a can of
605
00:33:55,900 --> 00:34:01,000
Pickled beets, which is not a
food that I'm a huge fan of and
606
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,700
it's just like a little wisp of
it underneath everything else.
607
00:34:04,700 --> 00:34:07,300
So it's really nice.
It's like pineapple and orange
608
00:34:07,300 --> 00:34:09,400
juice and I'm digging it and
then there's just a little bit
609
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,600
of beet and then our get
reminded of Dwight Schrute,
610
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,000
which is not what I want to be
thinking about when I'm drinking
611
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,400
whiskey.
So I'm kind of torn about this
612
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,699
one man.
What kind of score?
613
00:34:19,699 --> 00:34:21,900
Would you give it?
I think I'd still give it like a
614
00:34:21,908 --> 00:34:25,000
seven and a half but it was
approaching like an eight and a
615
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,800
half before.
Or okay.
616
00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:29,400
I was going to say I really like
this for me.
617
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,500
It's honey, there's some brown
sugar notes.
618
00:34:31,500 --> 00:34:34,199
I get the barley starts to come
through.
619
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,300
It's a little bit raw.
And then, like you said, I think
620
00:34:37,300 --> 00:34:41,800
honeydew is the right note.
It's it, it's Melanie but not a
621
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,199
super-strong overpowering.
Those I gave it an 8 out of 10
622
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:49,600
on the nose.
I think it's pleasant but I'm
623
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,800
curious to see where it goes.
Especially after last week.
624
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,500
Drinking the there, you know,
regular off.
625
00:34:55,699 --> 00:34:58,700
And really feeling like it was
like, kind of a white wine, huh?
626
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,700
Feel.
I'm curious to see how much more
627
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,800
bourbon e or, you know, even
more like classic Irish whiskey,
628
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,200
this one will come out to be.
Yeah, for me, I just took a sip
629
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,000
as you were talking Brad and
this one still has a lot of
630
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,500
that, white wine character.
But this time around it is like
631
00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:18,000
a really dry sparkling wine for
me like it reminds me of
632
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,400
champagne when I drink it and
there is there's a little bit
633
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,700
more sweetness here than there
was last week which I really
634
00:35:23,700 --> 00:35:26,400
like it's certainly not a sweet.
Ski at all.
635
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,800
But I think a little bit of that
bourbon character has been
636
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,900
imparted here.
It's way spicier than last
637
00:35:31,900 --> 00:35:34,800
week's was like from the, from
the get-go tip of my tongue.
638
00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:36,800
There's a prickly Nest here that
wasn't there.
639
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,800
Last week, I gotta keep saying,
last week, I guess it was, I
640
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,900
think two weeks ago that we
tried this one.
641
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,400
So anyway, you know what I mean?
But I get a lot of citrus peel
642
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,300
on this Brad.
There's like a grapefruit
643
00:35:49,300 --> 00:35:51,300
character to this on the back
for me to.
644
00:35:51,300 --> 00:35:54,000
It's not like all of the
bitterness that you get with
645
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,900
grapefruit, but it does.
Mind me of drinking orange
646
00:35:56,900 --> 00:35:59,800
juice, or drinking grape fruit
juice to go along with that kind
647
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,500
of champagne thing.
I guess I just have mimosas on
648
00:36:02,500 --> 00:36:05,800
my mind right now, but this
tastes like the whiskey
649
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,800
equivalent of a mimosa to me.
Yeah, for me it was like, honey,
650
00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:17,000
drizzled over a grapefruit with,
like a little bit of a mint,
651
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,200
sprig, kind of like, put on the
side, but like crushed a little
652
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,500
bit, so you smell it.
Yeah.
653
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,500
Like that is what I got on the
pallet here, it's a little bit.
654
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,900
Of a refreshing mint but then
all sorts of Honey mixed with
655
00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:33,700
grapefruit and then it kind of
dries out by the end of it and
656
00:36:33,700 --> 00:36:36,600
hits a few of those white wine
notes that we've been talking
657
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,500
about with our last iteration of
Bushmills.
658
00:36:39,100 --> 00:36:43,000
Bob, I really like this a lot.
I think I'm going to stay like
659
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,700
right at an 8 because this is
really solid whiskey.
660
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,000
I'm going to give it an 8 on the
taste as well and same
661
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,400
unfinished because it.
Hmm.
662
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,700
What's the word Brad?
It's not bitter.
663
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,500
I guess it is kind of better in
that.
664
00:36:55,700 --> 00:36:59,200
Fruit way, it has that
grapefruit character to it and
665
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,400
it really does remind me of
toasting someone on New Year's
666
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:07,000
with a glass of champagne.
But I don't like champagne that
667
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,200
much and I would much rather
have this in a glass to toast
668
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,500
somebody with on New Year's.
It's really really good.
669
00:37:12,500 --> 00:37:15,300
It's light, it's bubbly.
It has that sort of
670
00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:18,000
effervescence to it.
I'm really shocked that this is
671
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,600
coming out of bourbon barrels,
because it doesn't really remind
672
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,400
me of bourbon at all.
They reminds me of drinking, you
673
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,100
know, a screwdriver.
Her or a mimosa or something
674
00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:30,000
with orange and champagne in it.
I'm a big fan.
675
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,300
I'm going to give it an 8 on the
Finish.
676
00:37:32,300 --> 00:37:35,400
Yeah I think I'll come down a
tiny bit on the Finish just just
677
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,200
to say that it doesn't last very
long and there's not quite
678
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:44,100
enough of a lingering palette
that like really makes me in
679
00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:46,400
love with it.
But I'm right there with you
680
00:37:46,408 --> 00:37:48,200
man.
It has all of the notes we've
681
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,500
been talking about so far.
The the Citrus little bit of
682
00:37:51,500 --> 00:37:54,100
Honey to finish, it gets a
little bit more, okey at the
683
00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:58,200
end, but not enough to Sour it.
So yeah, seven and a half on the
684
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,700
finish.
I'll give it an eight and a half
685
00:38:00,700 --> 00:38:02,700
on balance.
Bob, I think I'll do that.
686
00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:04,200
Yeah.
I think I'll do the same.
687
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,200
Go ahead and finish your
thought, I'm sorry.
688
00:38:06,300 --> 00:38:09,200
No you good?
I just think that balance wise,
689
00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:14,000
you get what you are expecting
throughout the entire drink and
690
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,300
I think you know in order to hit
the nine, ten out of ten type of
691
00:38:17,300 --> 00:38:21,800
area, you almost have to
transcend that and like be more
692
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,300
complex than initially you think
it is.
693
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,900
But with this One man.
I mean, there's nothing to
694
00:38:27,900 --> 00:38:29,500
complain about here, balance
wise.
695
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,300
No.
And is this the best Irish
696
00:38:31,300 --> 00:38:35,500
whiskey we've ever had?
No, but for what it is and kind
697
00:38:35,500 --> 00:38:39,200
of as a self-contained thing, it
balances everything really,
698
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,900
really well.
Everything I got on the nose,
699
00:38:40,900 --> 00:38:42,800
was there on the palette,
everything that was on the
700
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,100
palate, was there on the Finish.
It's a super consistent product
701
00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:49,300
and I really appreciate that.
So I'm also going to go eight
702
00:38:49,300 --> 00:38:52,300
and a half on balance and that
brings us to value.
703
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:57,000
Now Brad as you know, our value
score is Dependent on simply is
704
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,200
it cheap or is it expensive?
It is does the quality of what
705
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,300
we just drank make sense at the
price point, or even more.
706
00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:08,700
Is it a steal at the price point
and at in the state of Ohio?
707
00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:11,700
Brad, I'm pretty sure this is,
like in the 20s, right?
708
00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:20,000
$22.49 $22 for a 750 milliliter
bottle of, this is a freaking
709
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,800
steal like so much so that I
thought this was like 28 or 29
710
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,700
dollars at.
Eighty-two dollars.
711
00:39:27,900 --> 00:39:30,000
This is a nine out of ten value
bread.
712
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,800
It's a nine and a half for me,
Bob.
713
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,000
Yeah.
Like, it's pretty close to being
714
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,400
a perfect value.
If it was 20 or below, I would
715
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:42,000
give it a 10 out of 10. 2250 is
a steal for this whiskey guys.
716
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:47,200
If you have not tried Bushmills
redbush yet, I am really, really
717
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,100
impressed.
And there's like, you can't ask
718
00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:54,000
for much more out of a bottle of
whiskey that costs less than
719
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,000
$25.
No, I'm coming out to a forty
720
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,600
one out of Brad.
What are you coming out to 41.5?
721
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,700
Wow.
So we're at a 41-point 25 or an
722
00:40:04,700 --> 00:40:09,700
82 and a half out of 100.
This is a big deal, man.
723
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,600
It's pretty rare for a whiskey,
this inexpensive to score this.
724
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,600
Highly on our show.
Yeah.
725
00:40:15,700 --> 00:40:19,500
Well and the big thing is, I
always try to score the first
726
00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:24,800
four categories with no regard
to the value category and allow
727
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:29,700
value to adjust the score.
Core as need be, you know, if
728
00:40:29,700 --> 00:40:33,100
this was a ninety dollar bottle
of whiskey, it would get a 2 out
729
00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:38,900
of 10 and be in like the mid
30s, the low 30s, but because it
730
00:40:38,900 --> 00:40:43,200
is a $22.50 bottle of whiskey,
it got a nine and a half and
731
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,000
that bumped it up to where I
think it should be.
732
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,600
This is a huge step up from the
regular Bushmills, white label,
733
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,900
you know, so much.
So that I think we had some
734
00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:53,100
complaints about Bushmills last
week.
735
00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:56,500
I have no complaints about this.
This is an immediate go out and
736
00:40:56,500 --> 00:40:58,600
purchase this.
Even if you're not an Irish
737
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:03,300
whiskey fan because it is out of
the ordinary enough that I think
738
00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:05,800
this should be something that
you need to give a try to.
739
00:41:06,500 --> 00:41:08,100
Yeah.
And if you haven't watched The
740
00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:11,200
Princess Bride yet, you need to
go out and give it a try.
741
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,500
So Bob, how about you say?
We get back into finishing.
742
00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:16,900
Our conversation about The
Princess Bride.
743
00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:21,900
Let's get to it.
All right.
744
00:41:21,900 --> 00:41:26,000
Everybody that was Bushmills,
red, bush, whiskey, that we were
745
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,900
just over the top About Bob I'm
still, I'm over here like
746
00:41:30,900 --> 00:41:33,400
Googling about it right now
because I had no idea.
747
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,600
It was this good.
Why is no one talking about
748
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,200
this?
It's it's available everywhere.
749
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:43,200
All the time for less than $25
and it's phenomenal.
750
00:41:43,900 --> 00:41:46,900
Hmm, I don't know.
Bob it's not very exclusive, you
751
00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:47,900
know what I mean?
That's what it is.
752
00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:51,000
We need to create scarcity,
artificial scarcity.
753
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,200
We need what we need is for
Bushmills, red bush to get
754
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,600
acquired by Buffalo Trace.
There you go.
755
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,000
That's it.
If you put this in the beat, At
756
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,600
collection and called it like,
Georgios tag Irish whiskey,
757
00:42:03,700 --> 00:42:06,100
dude.
Sure.
758
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:09,600
Just a, it could sell for $900
and people would finally
759
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,900
understand man.
Well, speaking of btech, I'd
760
00:42:13,900 --> 00:42:17,100
like to thank our new sponsor,
Buffalo Trace for sponsoring,
761
00:42:17,100 --> 00:42:18,800
our two facts in a falsehood
section.
762
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,500
Alright, two facts.
And a falsehood, this is the
763
00:42:21,500 --> 00:42:25,300
part of the podcast where Brad
presents three items to me all
764
00:42:25,300 --> 00:42:27,900
of them.
As fact, little tidbits about
765
00:42:27,900 --> 00:42:32,000
the making of this V.
And so all of them not sponsored
766
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,400
by Buffalo, not actually none of
them to be to be clear.
767
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,900
No free advertising on this
podcast, Buffalo Trace.
768
00:42:39,300 --> 00:42:41,300
So, two of them are actually
true.
769
00:42:41,300 --> 00:42:43,700
One of them is made up by Brad.
I have to guess.
770
00:42:43,700 --> 00:42:48,000
Which one is the falsehood?
Brad hit me with your two facts
771
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:53,000
and a falsehood fax.
Number one, Christopher, Reeve
772
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,600
famous for playing Superman.
Was it one point interested in
773
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,100
playing the role of Wesley?
Fax number two, when count.
774
00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:01,700
That's the real game.
That's the whole fact.
775
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,600
That's it, man.
Well, usually there's like a,
776
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,400
you know, but this, this
happened, blah blah, blah, so I
777
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,900
thought something was coming in.
All right, fact, number two,
778
00:43:11,900 --> 00:43:15,400
when count rugen hits Wesley
over the head Cary, Elwes told
779
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,700
Christopher Guest to go ahead
and hit him for real, guess it l
780
00:43:18,700 --> 00:43:22,500
was so hard that he knocked him,
unconscious lacerating, the top
781
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:23,800
of his head.
Oh my gosh.
782
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,200
It was very violent.
Fact, number three, the line
783
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,500
never mess with a sicilian.
When death is on the line was
784
00:43:31,500 --> 00:43:34,900
one of Goldman's favorites, who
said it was a direct quote of
785
00:43:34,900 --> 00:43:39,800
one of his childhood friends.
Wow, I have no idea.
786
00:43:41,300 --> 00:43:46,500
Fact, number one sounds, so
Bland that I can't tell if it's
787
00:43:46,500 --> 00:43:50,800
real or not.
I mean like okay cool like
788
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,700
Christopher Reeve was interested
in great.
789
00:43:52,700 --> 00:43:58,900
Like I'm glad I know that now.
Fact number two huh I think they
790
00:43:58,908 --> 00:44:01,600
could all be false.
Is it possible that all three of
791
00:44:01,607 --> 00:44:05,700
these are false?
There is zero percent chance.
792
00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:06,600
Okay.
All right.
793
00:44:07,100 --> 00:44:10,700
I think I'm just going to have
to guess one because I think I'm
794
00:44:10,700 --> 00:44:14,800
gonna be wrong regardless.
I'm going to say that too.
795
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,800
Is the falsehood that count
rugen?
796
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,900
Hit Wesley over the head, so
hard that he knocked him
797
00:44:19,900 --> 00:44:26,400
unconscious for real.
Yes, that Bob is a 100% true
798
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,400
facts, how nice?
Yeah.
799
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,500
What was the falsehood bread?
The wine.
800
00:44:32,500 --> 00:44:35,200
Never mess with Sicilian.
When death is on the line, was
801
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,900
not one of William Goldman's
favorites.
802
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,900
It wasn't, I mean, maybe it was
maybe maybe it wasn't.
803
00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:44,400
There is no record of it being
his favorites and he did not say
804
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,600
it was a direct quote from one
of his childhood friends.
805
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:51,200
As far as I know, I made that up
what a great line, dude.
806
00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:54,200
Okay, see this?
Such a great line.
807
00:44:55,100 --> 00:44:58,000
Alright.
So now I'm taking the Elvis
808
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,100
week.
I'm okay with that because I'm
809
00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:02,700
still way above 500 on the year.
Yeah, you're killing it, man.
810
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,800
Let's get back into.
It was a rough start for you.
811
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,200
It was a really rough start.
I want to talk a little bit more
812
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,500
about this script and about,
Owners direction of it.
813
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,700
This is the third movie, that
William Goldman and Rob Reiner
814
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,300
have worked on together that has
been on this show.
815
00:45:19,500 --> 00:45:24,200
Like I had no idea that William
Goldman did revisions On A Few
816
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,500
Good Men when we picked that for
the show, but like it's pretty
817
00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:30,200
obvious that the two of them
really enjoyed working together
818
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,900
and that Reiner understands if
nothing else how to put the
819
00:45:34,900 --> 00:45:38,600
actors in a position to deliver
this Goldman dialogue.
820
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,600
Better than almost anybody D.
Yeah, Goldman is like, really
821
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,500
famous for a reason Bob.
Yeah, yeah.
822
00:45:46,900 --> 00:45:54,000
He's, you know, he's fun fact.
Great at writing scripts, I
823
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,200
think that is easily the
strength of this movie is the
824
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,800
fact that a the actors are
committed.
825
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:06,200
Like every single actor, is
committed to this script and be
826
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,600
that elevates this script to the
next level because it's Already
827
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,700
a spectacular script like the,
the lines that he writes are
828
00:46:14,700 --> 00:46:18,800
some of the funniest of any
movie, you know, like to throw
829
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,400
things, Way, Way Back for those
of you, who remember, when we
830
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:28,400
did our Test episode on the film
Anchorman, the Legend of Ron
831
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,400
Burgundy, we talked about how
that is easily.
832
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,900
One of the most quotable movies
of all time.
833
00:46:35,500 --> 00:46:38,100
Bob, I think Princess Bride
might be more quotable.
834
00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:40,200
Yeah.
And it's, it gets to the The
835
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,500
fact that they're two different
styles of Comedy, right, where
836
00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:49,500
Adam McKay is kind of the master
of, I don't know wrangling chaos
837
00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:52,200
into something like that whole
movies, improvised or a good
838
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,400
portion of it, and they cobbled
together, different takes to
839
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,900
make what you see in the final
product.
840
00:46:58,300 --> 00:47:00,200
This is not an improvised movie,
right?
841
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,400
I mean I'm sure, you know, maybe
Billy Crystal's character is
842
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,700
doing some improv there, but
this is an example of really,
843
00:47:07,700 --> 00:47:11,700
really great joke writing And
people delivering it with
844
00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:14,900
perfect timing.
It's much closer to Billy wilder
845
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,600
than it is to Anchorman.
Yeah, there's a element of
846
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:24,500
snappiness to the movie.
That feels much more like old
847
00:47:24,500 --> 00:47:26,800
Hollywood than it does like new.
Yeah.
848
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,600
And I think that's I think that
the other thing is the lines are
849
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:35,100
incredibly Snappy but they are
delivered in such a laconic
850
00:47:35,100 --> 00:47:38,100
manner.
By by Inigo Montoya by Cary
851
00:47:38,100 --> 00:47:42,400
Elwes?
That it As a slow cadence, even
852
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,700
though they're really fast, one
line is and I think that that
853
00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:50,400
that dissonance almost serves to
make it even funnier.
854
00:47:50,900 --> 00:47:53,000
All right, so I think this is a
good point to kind of tip my
855
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,500
hand a little bit about my
overall feelings on this movie.
856
00:47:57,300 --> 00:48:02,100
I respect this movie.
I respect the script, I think
857
00:48:02,100 --> 00:48:05,000
it's clever.
I chuckle a lot.
858
00:48:05,500 --> 00:48:08,800
I do a little smirk.
I nod my head and say I see what
859
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,600
you did there.
This is not a movie that really
860
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,900
makes me laugh out loud every
once in a while it will.
861
00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:17,700
And I actually watched this
movie with my five-year-old,
862
00:48:17,700 --> 00:48:20,500
this was like one of the first
movies I've ever shown him where
863
00:48:20,500 --> 00:48:22,600
like, someone gets stabbed and
dies.
864
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,100
There was a big deal for my son
to watch.
865
00:48:25,500 --> 00:48:27,200
He thought it was hilarious.
He loved it.
866
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,000
And so it's really it was great
to watch it with a younger
867
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,300
person who had never seen it
before in the jokes really
868
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:34,600
worked.
And, you know, Andre the Giant's
869
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:40,000
rhyming thing killed in my
household, but at the end of the
870
00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:43,800
The day, I think this is why I
think spinal tap is such a
871
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,600
better movie than this, and I
know that it's two completely
872
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,000
different.
Styles of Comedy, spinal tap
873
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,200
makes me laugh out loud and this
movie gets more of a, an
874
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,300
appreciative chuckle every now
and then.
875
00:48:56,300 --> 00:49:00,200
And so it's really hard for me
to hold this movie in as high of
876
00:49:00,300 --> 00:49:03,800
a steam as other people do.
That's crazy to me Bob.
877
00:49:03,900 --> 00:49:08,500
Yeah, it feels like to me.
This movie should have all the
878
00:49:08,500 --> 00:49:13,300
kinds of humor that you're
Looking for in a movie and I'm
879
00:49:13,300 --> 00:49:15,400
kind of surprised that this one
didn't hit you the right way.
880
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,200
Yeah.
It kind of reminds me of Some
881
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,300
Like, It Hot that way to go back
to Wilder.
882
00:49:19,300 --> 00:49:22,000
Again, that's a great movie.
It's funny.
883
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,300
It's so well written.
It's almost perfectly written
884
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:30,000
and yet, I think there's an
element of because it is all
885
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,800
written down, because there
doesn't seem to be any actual
886
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,400
joking going on.
You know what I mean?
887
00:49:37,500 --> 00:49:41,400
Like, I'm not saying I need
Improv ization to make me laugh,
888
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,600
but sometimes the stage Enos of
delivering jokes that are pre
889
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,100
written in a movie, just doesn't
work quite as well for me.
890
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:53,000
And so, I like the apartment way
better than I like Some Like It
891
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,700
Hot and again, I know the
apartments a much more dramatic
892
00:49:55,700 --> 00:49:59,200
movie, but there's just
something more to appreciate
893
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,000
their for me.
Whereas Some Like, It, Hot is a
894
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,400
very, very well-made movie.
That doesn't really go anywhere
895
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,100
under the surface of what it's
presenting and that's kind of
896
00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:11,400
the same thing here.
Maybe I'm just old and I'm a
897
00:50:11,408 --> 00:50:15,400
stick in the mud and I'm no fun
anymore, but this movie has just
898
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,100
never quite done it for me, the
way that it seems to for other
899
00:50:18,100 --> 00:50:21,100
people.
Well, maybe maybe let's make it
900
00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:24,700
a double give you a chance to
point towards a movie that you
901
00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:27,100
feel like does it just a little
bit better then?
902
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,100
Oh, that's a good one.
I have not even thought about
903
00:50:30,100 --> 00:50:31,600
what I would make this a double
with.
904
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,700
Do you have yours and mine so I
can not listen to you and think
905
00:50:35,700 --> 00:50:37,500
about it while you talk.
Yeah.
906
00:50:37,500 --> 00:50:40,800
Bob, I have been thinking about
the movie and I I think that
907
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:47,100
there's another children's film
that is similar in tone and and
908
00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:49,900
its content.
We mentioned it once earlier.
909
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,000
I think I'm gonna pair this with
Shrek.
910
00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:55,400
Oh interesting.
Yeah, I mean I think it's kind
911
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,600
of like it's an obvious pairing
for this, right?
912
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:04,700
Like it's I think Shrek's a
little more Mean-spirited than
913
00:51:04,700 --> 00:51:07,500
this movie?
Is it is I think one of the
914
00:51:07,508 --> 00:51:09,800
things don't like about Shrek is
that it?
915
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:10,800
Yeah, go ahead and finish your
thought.
916
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,900
I'm sorry, as you say it hates
Disney.
917
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:19,400
It does just so much and it
doesn't seem to like its own
918
00:51:19,500 --> 00:51:24,000
source material either like, it
doesn't like fairy tales.
919
00:51:24,900 --> 00:51:28,000
Whereas I think this movie,
ultimately what what really
920
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,400
saves this movie is that it's
not just making fun of fairy,
921
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,800
tales for the point of making
fun of fairy And saying aren't
922
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:38,000
these dumb, it's ultimately
about the power of a story and
923
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,300
how stories like this bring
people together and that
924
00:51:40,300 --> 00:51:45,100
grandfather and Grandson
bookends on this movie, really?
925
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,800
I mean, that's what makes you
feel the warm fuzzies about this
926
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,700
movie.
And I think that's why, I mean,
927
00:51:50,700 --> 00:51:52,300
I definitely like this better
than Shrek.
928
00:51:53,500 --> 00:51:55,700
There's a lot of ways you could
go with making this a double.
929
00:51:55,700 --> 00:51:58,300
Like I said, I think it would go
really well with a movie like
930
00:51:58,300 --> 00:52:02,100
Some Like It Hot, it would go
really well with the Original
931
00:52:02,500 --> 00:52:04,300
Adventures of Robin Hood with
Errol Flynn.
932
00:52:04,300 --> 00:52:07,000
I think it has that sort of
swashbuckling thing going on
933
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,000
here.
I think I'm going to pair it up
934
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:15,200
with a movie based on movies
that The Script is perfect but
935
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,100
that I'd still don't really care
for and it is Back to the Future
936
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:25,100
where I think Back To The Future
Has like like actual problematic
937
00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:28,400
elements to it that don't fly in
2022 and this movie doesn't
938
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:33,100
really have those, but it's a
movie that on paper, literally
939
00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:36,700
on paper should work like
gangbusters for me and how
940
00:52:36,700 --> 00:52:41,800
people talk and, and right and
worship at the altar of these
941
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,100
two scripts and how perfectly
structured they are.
942
00:52:44,100 --> 00:52:46,100
And how there's a payoff for
everything that happens.
943
00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:50,700
And yet, even though it's
perfectly structured, I still
944
00:52:50,700 --> 00:52:53,100
don't think it's anywhere near
approaching a perfect.
945
00:52:53,300 --> 00:52:57,800
We both really enjoyable both,
you know, entertaining on
946
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:02,200
surface level, but, you know, or
we could just call it the double
947
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,500
of movies that everyone else on
Earth likes that Bob doesn't
948
00:53:05,500 --> 00:53:07,400
care for.
And here's why Bob's wrong?
949
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:08,900
And you could have a double
feature of those.
950
00:53:08,900 --> 00:53:11,000
So there you go.
I'm gonna go Princess Bride and
951
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,500
Back to the Future.
Sounds good man.
952
00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:18,300
You know Bob I've been thinking
about this, you know, we'll make
953
00:53:18,300 --> 00:53:22,200
it a double for a while now I
think I'm going to compare this
954
00:53:22,300 --> 00:53:25,600
and pair it up.
Up with a movie called Stardust.
955
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,200
Hmm.
Have you ever seen Stardust Bob?
956
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,600
I have not ever seen Stardust
Bob.
957
00:53:32,300 --> 00:53:34,800
Yeah.
It came out in 2007.
958
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,400
It's an action-adventure movie
about a young man.
959
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,000
Who promises the woman that he
loves that.
960
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,100
He will go retrieve a fallen
star and he goes forth into this
961
00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:51,600
magical realm and goes on a
Grand Adventure to to find it.
962
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,100
And he learns a little bit about
himself.
963
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,500
And honestly, I think it's
almost like the movie version of
964
00:53:57,500 --> 00:54:03,500
what happens to Wesley in
between him leaving Buttercup
965
00:54:03,500 --> 00:54:06,100
and coming back to Buttercup.
Mmm interests.
966
00:54:06,100 --> 00:54:07,300
I'm a big.
I'm a big fan.
967
00:54:07,300 --> 00:54:12,000
I think it's a good a good
pairing for for The Princess
968
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,700
Bride.
All right.
969
00:54:13,700 --> 00:54:16,000
Brad.
It is time for us to give final
970
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,600
scores on this movie.
I'll go first since I just said
971
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,400
that, you know, this is not my
favorite film.
972
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,800
I think again on paper this is
Is like an eight and a half nine
973
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:29,700
out of ten, but it just doesn't,
it's one of those movies where I
974
00:54:29,700 --> 00:54:31,100
watch it.
I smile, I say.
975
00:54:31,100 --> 00:54:33,300
That was cute.
That was well made and then I
976
00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:36,200
forget about it and it just
doesn't have the staying power
977
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,700
in my own mind that it seems to
have for other people.
978
00:54:39,100 --> 00:54:40,900
I'm gonna give it a seven and a
half out of ten.
979
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,200
I think it's, it's competently
directed.
980
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,400
It has a brilliant screenplay.
I think a lot of the people in.
981
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:55,000
It have insane comic timing, but
like, Wanting to put this on
982
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,300
every day.
Not really.
983
00:54:56,700 --> 00:54:59,700
So for me, I think just my own
personal enjoyment of it.
984
00:54:59,700 --> 00:55:01,100
It's a seven and a half out of
ten.
985
00:55:01,300 --> 00:55:02,900
Yeah.
Bob, I think that the difference
986
00:55:02,900 --> 00:55:06,400
between you, and I in this movie
is that I just everything worked
987
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:07,800
for me in this film.
Hmm.
988
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:13,800
Like, it's nothing more than it
tries to be, but it is perfect
989
00:55:13,900 --> 00:55:16,700
at what it tries to be.
And so for me I'm going to give
990
00:55:16,700 --> 00:55:18,100
it an eight and a half out of
ten.
991
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,500
I think it's one of the funnier
movies we've ever had on the
992
00:55:21,500 --> 00:55:25,500
podcast and And I think that
Patinkin performance
993
00:55:25,500 --> 00:55:29,000
single-handedly, bumps this up,
at least a half a point for
994
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,000
sure, for sure.
Alright, so there you have it.
995
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:36,100
We are coming out to an 8 out of
10 on average, but we like to
996
00:55:36,107 --> 00:55:38,700
know what you think is this one
of those movies that you've
997
00:55:38,700 --> 00:55:41,700
watched ever, since you were a
kid and you hold it very near
998
00:55:41,700 --> 00:55:44,300
and dear to your heart.
Is this a movie that doesn't
999
00:55:44,300 --> 00:55:47,800
work for you?
Kind of like with me, you can
1000
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,800
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1001
00:55:50,900 --> 00:55:55,300
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1002
00:55:55,300 --> 00:55:57,600
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1003
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,300
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1004
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,900
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1005
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1006
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:12,100
All right, next week, we are
visiting one of the most famous
1007
00:56:12,100 --> 00:56:15,900
most highly regarded directors
of all time, David, lean, and
1008
00:56:15,900 --> 00:56:18,300
we're kicking it off with a
movie that is considered one of
1009
00:56:18,308 --> 00:56:23,600
the best ever made 1962, S,
Lawrence of Arabia, Brad.
1010
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:28,500
We are taking a very, very hard
turn from from Rob Reiner into
1011
00:56:28,500 --> 00:56:30,300
David lean.
Yeah.
1012
00:56:30,300 --> 00:56:32,600
And I'm I'm incredibly excited
for it.
1013
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,000
We'll be back next week with
Lawrence of Arabia but until
1014
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:40,000
then I'm Bob book I'm Reggie and
we'll see you next time.