The Last of the Mohicans / Glenlivet Enigma

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in 1992 director, Michael Mann
and star.

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Daniel Day-Lewis gave the world.
A historical action drama that

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set the formula of similar films
for years.

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Years to come in 2023.
We returned to Scotland to try a

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puzzling whiskey.
The film is The Last of the

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Mohicans.
The whiskey is Glenlivet Enigma

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and we'll review them both.
This is the film had whiskey

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podcast.
Welcome to the film and whiskey

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podcast, where each week, we
review a classic movie and a

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glass of whiskey.
I'm Bob book, I'm Brad G and

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this week we're looking at the
1992 historical epic.

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The Last of the Mohicans Brad
this is the last episode.

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Of season 6, the last of the
most seasoned that we have saved

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the best for last man.
Yeah, I am super excited to talk

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about this movie and it's for a
very rare reason on this show.

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Oh, this is my first time seeing
the Last of the Mohicans.

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What, what I've never seen that,
man.

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Bob, this is a very famous
movie.

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It is indeed.
And I just like, I never

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happened to catch it on the
cable growing up.

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My dad always told me it was a
good movie and so I always

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wanted to see it and I Of movies
in this vein early 90s

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historical epics.
That's like my jam.

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Yeah and I've just never gotten
around to seeing it and spoiler

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alert.
We have a guest joining us today

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who will intro in just a minute,
but when I heard that our guests

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wanted to talk about this movie,
I said, well I can't watch it

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now.
I have to wait and save myself

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for this moment.
So this is a big deal man.

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Yeah it really is that this
might be the second or third

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time in podcast history that
we've both entered you know, the

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The recording booth on equal
ground, that's true.

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I usually am just objectively
Superior to you.

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Wow, but not today way of
putting it.

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Well, maybe it's a balance out
the playing field a little bit.

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We should intro Our Guest.
It is our friend film critic,

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Daniels y OU, re joining us
again.

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Every year around Oscar season.
Daniel, how you doing?

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I'm great.
How about you guys?

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I'm doing well, man.
Man, I am doing so, so good.

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Good.
And I'm just assuming that this

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is your first time seeing it as
well.

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Dave yeah, something like that.
So A while back, I discovered

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that Daniel lists this movie
among his favorites of all time

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and I mean maybe it would you
call this your favorite film

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ever?
Yes, and no.

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Okay.
I definitely have called it that

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at times.
I generally have like a top four

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in that are in some order and it
just depends on which day you

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catch me, which one of those
four.

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I list is my actual number one,
but last Mohicans is one of them

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and does frequently get cited as
my number one, That is super

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exciting.
Oh, before we dive into Last of

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the Mohicans, let's catch up
with Daniel a little bit.

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You may remember him from last
year when he completely fixed

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the Oscars and they did not heed
his call at all.

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I don't know if what we had on
Oscar Bingo when we talked last

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but all the stuff that went down
was certainly not on it.

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I'll say that much I guess
that's one way to drum up

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ratings.
You know you came up with this

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complicated formula and then all
you need is assault and that'll

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do it.
So Daniel, you're back again,

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it's Oscar season, you've just
wrapped up Sundance coverage and

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it was I mean I don't want to
speak for you here.

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It was a pretty big deal for
you.

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Your Sundance coverage this
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Yeah, I wrote for the ringer for
the first time, which was super

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exciting.
I think as the three of us are

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probably all men of a certain
age and probably discovered Bill

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Simmons at an early time in
collagen, is right when it

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mattered to us so writing for,
you know, great.

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And then the ringer had always
been a huge goal for me.

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So I was really excited to
finally do it.

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I wrote a big Sundance recap
Roundup piece for them last week

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so we've got the Oscars coming
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What about a month now?
Which is I mean just way too

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late.
I don't know if you agree with

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me on this but a third of the
way through the year seems a

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little bit late for the Oscars.
We haven't done an Oscars

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preview on our podcast yet
because like you you know, I

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live in the midwest where a lot
of times the film's don't come

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out until like February.
I wanted to submit my 10 best of

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the year at the end of the year,
but I don't get screeners like a

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lot of people do.
And so I have to actually go to

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the theater or, you know, rent
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And I think the last one that I
really had to catch up with was

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women talking, which I got
around to seeing and now I feel

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like I'm ready to submit my top
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February.
So we're going to hold off a

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little bit on our Oscars
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But what are some things that
you're most looking forward to,

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with this year's crop of
nominees?

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I'm really fascinated by Best
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I think it's an absolute dead
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Michelle.
And so I am, I think, you know,

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a lot of people are saying that
everything everywhere, all at

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once, they think is the film to
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And I think that best actress
could be the real determination

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of that, you know, as you're
watching the show this year, if

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Cate Blanchett winds, that could
mean that maybe voters aren't

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quite as high on everything
everywhere, as we thought they

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were, or if Michelle wins, then
that could mean that.

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That's our best picture.
Yeah, I remember walking out of

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the theater from everything
everywhere and I realized I was

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like that movie is a movie that
justifies the existence of

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Cinema.
Like you couldn't tell the

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story, they were trying to tell
in any other medium like I like

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it wouldn't work as a book or a
radio play or however else you

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would want to communicate like
that movie Just exist to be a

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movie and I Like man, I just was
very, very excited about that

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film.
Yep.

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Totally agree.
My other big Oscars.

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Question is I feel like the
Banshees of in a Sharon is going

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to win an acting oscar.
But I have no idea which one I

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feel like supporting actors is
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think Kerry Condon could really
come in and steal that I don't

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know if they steal that one
because it would be well

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deserved.
But I think once again, it all

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comes down to some of the major
categories are people going to

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reward?
Brendan Fraser is it?

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I feel like Whale has kind of
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chunk of critics that, you know,
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looking down on the movie now,
but will that reflect back on

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Brendan Fraser?
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major nomination that movie
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And if that goes to Colin
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fair game at that point because
like, you're saying everything

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everywhere might be in pole
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banshees have been sharing is
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Probably great.
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There you go.
There's the Oscars preview for

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2023.
Let's let's dive into talking

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about The Last of the Mohicans
Brad and that means that it is

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time to segue into Brad.
Explains the part of the podcast

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where Brad breaks down the plot
of the film that he has just

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seen often for the first time.
As we know, this was your first

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time seeing Last of the Mohicans
Brad before you dive into your

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explanation of this movie were
you familiar with the source

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text at all?
Like, did you read the book when

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you were growing up?
I did not read the book.

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I was like, culturally Familiar
with the film.

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I knew that it was a Daniel
Day-Lewis movie.

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One of his earlier ones if I'm
correct.

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And that it's a historical, you
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And so that those are about the,
the most I was a familiar with

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it.
All right, so you went into this

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pretty cold which means we
should get a hell of an

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entertaining Braddock's places
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Brad, you've got 60 seconds on
the clock and go.

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Daniel Day-Lewis is Is a Trapper
who has been adopted into a

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Mohican family, and is
conscripted by the British army

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into fighting against the French
Huron Indian forces and the

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area, and the New York
territory, he initially refuses

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to help the British but
eventually falls in love with

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one of the kernel or generals
daughters and he tries to save

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her.
The fourth that they're fighting

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in is conquered by the French,
but As they are allowed to leave

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peaceably, the Huron, Indians
attacked, the British in an

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ambush.
And lots of wild things happen.

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He saves them.
Once again, from the Huron has

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to escape them by jumping into a
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And then he goes and he goes
peaceably and convinces.

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The chief of the Huron tribe to
give s the the girls and his

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brother dies.
All right, all right, I'm gonna

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catch up there man.
That thing really tailed off

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there, at the end, there's a lot
that happens at this movie Bob,

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there is a lot that happens and
I guess I'll say the first thing

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that really struck me about this
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I don't want to say that the
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slow, but there's certainly less
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happened that I had to turn the
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that one hour and 15 minute
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And it's right when they are,
they've made their deal with the

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French that they're going to
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And they're kind of leaving
through that Valley where they

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end up getting surrounded on
both sides and ambushed and it

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was right before that scene.
And I see them on Horseback, I

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had to hit pause, I came back to
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And from that moment on, there
are so many developments in this

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movie and it just moves like
crazy and Brad.

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I feel like a broken record
because this was kind of what we

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said about Heat last week.
That first hour of the movie

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Heat is all set up.
And then the payoff is the last

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two hours, where he just feels
like, everything is flying at

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you at such a rapid Pace.
This movie felt structurally,

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very similar to that.
It's almost like it.

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Had the same director, I know.
Right, who would hot?

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Daniel, I'm curious.
I want to throw it over to you.

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Like, this is your favorite
film, and I don't feel like I've

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set you up very well talking
about how I like literally

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bifurcated this movie and came
back to it.

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But, I mean, do you see what
we're talking about here?

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There's a lot of setup and then
last 45 minutes, I thought the

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movie was over.
And then even after that, there

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was another much more tragic
ending that came.

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Of it, like it was full of
surprises.

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I guess, is what I'm saying.
Yeah, so a few things that I

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just have in my, you know,
random set of notes that I want

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to hit on first of all, to your
point about how fast it moves

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for the end.
This movie is under two hours

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which for a historical action
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That's extremely rare.
Yeah, and like by extremely

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rare, I mean like maybe this is
the only one like I can't off

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the top.
My head think of another high

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budget by a major director
Hollywood historical action

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movie that is under two hours.
Theoretically want exist but I

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can't think of it so that's
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I feel like A huge point of
interest in the way.

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Michael Mann was envisioning.
The still am that.

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It's unlike most historical
action epics, you know, like

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just the Rocks a gladiator, Like
Gladiator cares.

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A lot about the politics of
ancient Rome in a that into the

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action scenes.
And, you know, you end up with a

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two-and-a-half-hour movie.
Last night, he gets his not

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care.
Last Mohicans is purely just

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about the adventure iconography
that Michael Mann want to put on

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the screen in the movie, is that
and nothing.

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But that, which I think is part
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So appealing about it.
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to mention is that my love for
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I feel like is a real relic of
the channel surfing era, which

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is that I don't know when I saw
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for the first time but I'm
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I had seen the last probably
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times before I'd ever seen the
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it for me is that is how perfect
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long time?
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film.
I knew before, I eventually

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discovered the whole thing.
I love that.

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Yeah, I have to say, it reminded
me so much of some of those

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like, Edward, zwick kept coming
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Like this.
Like it reminds me so much of

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glory and even if you fast
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me a lot of The Last Samurai as
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But there, It is just like
something rhythmic about these

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historical epics from from the
late 80s to the early 2000s that

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I don't want to say they're all
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piece and there is a very
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epics that they kind of all look
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They kind of all flow the same.
You know, you could watch this

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back to back with glory and it
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You could watch this back to
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would make sense and I just, I
don't know, man.

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Maybe it's because I'm a Out of
the 90s, I have a huge soft spot

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for this specific sub genres of
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So you bring up Edwards ich,
Edward zwick, made me, do a real

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quick fact.
Check the Last Samurai, is in

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the two-and-a-half hour realm.
Glory is just over two hours,

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122 minutes.
So it doesn't quite fit the

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mold, but it's pretty close.
Not quite as compact as the,

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Michael Mann classic here.
I get hey Brad.

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Let me, let me ask you this.
You know, we've been talking

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about this for a while now and I
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Aunt.
I don't know enough about like

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film stock to speak
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that I totally do.
I know you do right?

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But that movies like Braveheart
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mid-90s have this very kind of
flat look to them and it just

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looks so much different than the
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Contrast of we start getting in
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Bay and even watching this movie
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like the visuals in heat and I'm
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in the modern day, right?
But just the stylistic choices

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of how he films heat looks so
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in 2023.
Then what this movie was, it

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feels like these two films are,
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not three years apart, I don't
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up on that as well visually?
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just kept seeing Brave heart
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historical, you know, action
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I'm most familiar with.
Like from the, from the, the

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theme songs in the movie to the
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It, it just reminded me a lot of
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that in our Braveheart episode,
that there's just kind of a flat

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look to the colors in the movie.
That, as you said, it's Unique

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to the era and the Shen, the
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And I don't think it's a bad
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I think it's just something that
you once you've seen enough

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movies in this era, you can
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From like anything else.
Yeah, you know, we came into

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this Michael Mann, miniseries
and Brad, you hadn't seen any of

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his films.
And I had seen the first two

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that we did, but I was a little
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and re-watching heat.
I think doing heat a second

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time, really made me a Michael
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He didn't work for me the way it
did for some people the first

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time I saw it and now watching
it a second time I'm like, oh,

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this is a masterpiece and then I
watch this movie and it feels so

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far out of the Wheelhouse that
We've kind of created for

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ourselves, which is urban sprawl
and high-level crime that that I

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don't know exactly how to fit it
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And it reminds me a lot of the
struggles that people have when

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they try to pigeonhole.
Someone like Scorsese, which is

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gangster movie and then you
watch a movie like kundan or

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silence and you have to take a
step back and examine the themes

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that he's working with.
If you're really trying to apply

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sort of o2 or things to him will
see Bob if you At the Japanese

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government in silence, like, the
mob, then it really starts to

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actually make sense.
Well, I guess what I'm saying?

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Here is this, I do still see a
lot of the Fingerprints of

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Michael Mann on this movie,
because it is so much about

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codes and honoring codes and
disrespecting codes the way that

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we had in movies like heat.
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something there.
But Daniel, I mean, you're the

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expert on this movie.
How do you see this fitting into

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man's filmography?
Fee.

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Well, the short answer I guess
is that Michael Mann has

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honestly, never seemed to me a
filmmaker who cares much about

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themes.
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I have always felt like he's a
filmmaker who cares

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predominantly about what is
interesting to him visually and

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he'll, you know, story hunt or
adapt a film purely around that.

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And it's true that a lot of his
films end up involved with or

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end up about, you know, crime
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don't think that's because he's
interested in in, you know, good

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or bad or criminal punishment or
anything like that.

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In terms of themes, I think it's
just about the way he wants to

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portray action.
Hmm, I was going to say.

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It seems to me like man is very
interested in how crime creates

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high tension situations like he
would never direct like 500 Days

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of Summer.
Summer, you know, just about a

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normal relationship and how it
affects this guy's life.

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Like he, it doesn't seem like
man would be interested in a

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story like that he wants to put
his characters into really

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high-pressure situations and
kind of see what comes out of

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them.
Is that fair?

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Yeah, I think the most part
that's there and I mean, you

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know, like you said with
high-pressure situation, I think

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you can even fit Ali and The
Insider it is Insider.

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Yeah for sure.
All right, so I want to press

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you a little bit on man, then
because I'm still like I tipped

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into being a man fan.
And now I'm back into being a

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man agnostic, a little bit
because, you know, I mentioned

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Edward, zwick, a little bit
earlier and as I watched this

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film, I thought to myself What
is man doing here?

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Visually that an Edward zwick
wouldn't do.

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And, you know, I don't mean to
pit the two of them against each

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other, but in a lot of ways,
this did feel like you're kind

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of standard Studio historical
Epic from the the early to mid

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90s.
And so when you look at this

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film in particular, like what do
you think man?

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Brings to the table visually
that other directors couldn't or

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wouldn't do.
So, when I think about the last

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of Mohicans, Hey, I do love the
whole movie.

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I don't want to minimize that,
but I almost feel like I have to

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specify that I'm really mostly
talking about the last how that

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I think the last half hour is
about as perfect as filmmaking

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gets and then T even Zoom more
hyper specifically, the last 10

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minutes and the last 10 minutes
is why I think of is pure

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Cinema.
There is no dialogue in the last

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10 minutes except for the final
coat aware there you know,

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standing at the cliff and
talking about being the Unquote,

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last on the weekends, but before
that, the final ten minutes is

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three things.
It is music, it is imagery, and

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it is editing and there is no
dialogue at all.

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And so, when you ask about what
man brings to this story, that's

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what, you know that that's an
Edward zwick, doesn't that's

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what it is.
Is it for man this story is all

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about how I can tell this story
with a camera and Edward zwick I

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think is much more interested
in.

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Kind of educating audiences.
And also kind of moralizing to

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audiences which isn't to say
that he's not good at the visual

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elements of film.
I mean, I like a lot of bad

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words like movies but he has an
agenda that goes beyond

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filmmaking.
I would say.

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Where's Michael, man?
Really doesn't from for man.

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I think it's, the filmmaking is
the be-all end-all for the

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Lesser cinephiles out there.
Can you give me some Edward,

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zwick movies?
That would be common knowledge

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to the public?
Yeah, the most famous ones are

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probably going to be glory Blood
Diamond.

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The Last Samurai, okay?
Okay, he made some bangers.

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I really wish that that
Hollywood was still like

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utilizing him to his full
extent.

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Although I guess I'm glad that
he's avoided, like, making a

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superhero movie because that's
it seems like that's the last

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and now is like don't don't sell
out to Marvel.

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Yeah, you know, he was really
good at just making my bulleted

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historical crowd-pleasers which
is kind of a niche and on in you

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know, into itself.
Hmm.

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Yeah, absolutely.
And something that we don't

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really You anymore.
Yeah, it feels like those would

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make tons of money in 2023 just
like just like the woman getting

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in Babylon dead.
Hmm, exactly.

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Brad.
Seriously, I think by the time

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this episode comes out the woman
King is going to be streaming on

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Netflix.
And I've been telling you like

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all year that the great thing
about the woman King is that it

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has the feel of an early 90s
historical epic.

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Like yeah, it doesn't feel like
Like a movie that's being made

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in 2023 and take that for what I
mean, you know, I'm not trying

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to insinuate anything about that
other than it just has that

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rousing Classic Hollywood
structure and looseness and

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humor and like I couldn't
believe as I was sitting in the

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theater watching that movie that
it was coming out now and that

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it wasn't something from 30
years ago that I just happened

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to stumble upon, it's so good.
I really, really like the woman

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King, it's in my top 10 of the
year and when I saw it in

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Toronto, you know, I even
treated like it feels reductive

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somehow to compare.
To Gladiator and Braveheart, but

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those really are the most apt
comparisons because they are

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movies that don't exist anymore
and then I'll decide to here is

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one.
Yeah hmm. 100% well I mean I

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wasn't sold before but Daniel
hearing you say that, I've

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suddenly feel the urge to go
watch the woman King.

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It's really, really good.
You are just, I worst man.

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I will take your word for a
Daniel.

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Alright, let's talk about the
performances in this movie.

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There's a few that I want to
hone in on.

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But you know the most obvious
one is Daniel Day-Lewis Brad.

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This is I think the only only
the second Daniel Day-Lewis

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film, we've had on the show thus
far.

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We haven't gotten around to, you
know, Phantom thread.

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But we've done There Will Be
Blood and now there's this one.

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And so, it's a very, very weird
dichotomy of Daniel Day-Lewis

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films because There Will Be
Blood, is a movie that is built

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around.
The Daniel Day-Lewis

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performance, like as much as I
love that movie.

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There are very few filmmakers
who are willing to just kind of

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like let their scenes go on for
a too long amount of time

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because the actors just cooking
and that's what Day Lewis is

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doing in that movie.
And that's not the case here.

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And I feel like to be quite
Frank, I really like Daniel

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Day-Lewis in this movie, but
because it is such a

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conventional, Hollywood
historical drama, I don't know

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that.
Like anything about the

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performance really stands out in
a kind of like, Transcendent way

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for me here.
Yeah, I will say for some

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reason, I don't know why I was
under the impression that he won

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the Academy Award for best actor
for this performance.

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So interesting, like I knew that
he had won a few throughout his

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career but I really genuinely
thought he had won it for The

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Last of the Mohicans.
And so like I was getting near

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the end of the movie and I was
like, man, like this is a good

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performance, you know, it's
nothing to sneeze at but I don't

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know if it's a oscar-worthy.
Performance, you know,

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especially with There Will Be
Blood being being the other

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example of Daniel Day-Lewis I
had in my head.

446
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,900
So I think there are two
interesting points to pick up on

447
00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:31,900
there one is that this movie
actually was almost completely

448
00:24:31,900 --> 00:24:35,500
ignored by the Oscars.
I think it won best sound, but I

449
00:24:35,508 --> 00:24:38,800
also it's only nomination.
Yep, you are right there.

450
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,200
You know and even weirder thing
about that is the last Mohicans

451
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,100
was a box office hit, you know,
a lot of times with films like

452
00:24:46,100 --> 00:24:48,700
this, you can point to why the
Oscars ignored Like, well,

453
00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:51,300
audience is kind of rejected it.
And so, you know, Academy

454
00:24:51,300 --> 00:24:54,500
members just never saw it.
This one, it was a hit and Oscar

455
00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:55,500
voters.
Ignore to anyway.

456
00:24:55,500 --> 00:24:57,100
So that's a weird thing in and
of itself.

457
00:24:57,500 --> 00:25:01,300
But then the other thing that
pickup on there is that so

458
00:25:01,300 --> 00:25:03,900
Daniel Day-Lewis did not win an
Oscar for this movie, he won

459
00:25:03,900 --> 00:25:06,000
from my left foot, which was
1989.

460
00:25:06,300 --> 00:25:08,600
But this was his first movie
after that even though it was

461
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:13,900
three years later and it's
fascinating to me to see Daniel

462
00:25:13,900 --> 00:25:17,100
Day-Lewis in the 80s and films,
like my left foots, and my

463
00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:18,300
beautiful laundrette.
That.

464
00:25:18,300 --> 00:25:22,200
Yep.
And Room with a View, is this

465
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,600
very sort of proper English
actor?

466
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,300
Doing very staid domestic
period.

467
00:25:27,300 --> 00:25:29,900
Dramas.
And then all the sudden here he

468
00:25:29,900 --> 00:25:32,900
is in a Hollywood action
Blockbuster.

469
00:25:33,700 --> 00:25:36,700
And so, not only amazes me that
this was his very next film.

470
00:25:36,700 --> 00:25:40,000
And this is his first Hollywood
film in his first American film.

471
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,200
His first action movie.
But that Michael man, saw

472
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,900
something in his 80s work, that
made him think this is, you

473
00:25:46,900 --> 00:25:50,400
know, they somehow Michael Watch
my left foot and thought this is

474
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:55,300
this is the guy for last week.
I'd like to actually think that

475
00:25:55,300 --> 00:25:58,600
Daniel Day Lewis has like
precognitive abilities and he

476
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,200
knew he was going to get this
role.

477
00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:04,800
So he was just like, living in
the forest where Michael Mann,

478
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,800
went to scout for the movie and
he just stumbled upon Daniel

479
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,200
Day-Lewis.
Already being Nathaniel Coe,

480
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,500
it's hilarious.
That you said that because I

481
00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:16,700
watched the director's
commentary on last weekend's for

482
00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:19,100
the first time today just to See
if, you know, I was going to

483
00:26:19,108 --> 00:26:21,100
pick up any, I've seen the movie
a million times, but I don't

484
00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:22,600
think I'd ever watch the
directors commentary.

485
00:26:22,900 --> 00:26:26,300
I want to see if I picked up
anything extra and I'm sorry

486
00:26:26,300 --> 00:26:27,700
this wasn't even the directors
commentary.

487
00:26:27,700 --> 00:26:29,500
This is a making up on the
Blu-ray.

488
00:26:29,900 --> 00:26:31,800
There's interview with Daniel
Day-Lewis on the making of where

489
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,800
he says that the reason he took
the role is because of the way

490
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,600
Michael Mann pitch to him, the
idea of people living in the

491
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,100
forest and living off the land.
Let's look for like what

492
00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:46,900
appealed to me about wanting to,
you know, enter that world and

493
00:26:46,900 --> 00:26:50,400
do this film with Michael.
Speaking of entering a world, I

494
00:26:50,408 --> 00:26:52,900
want you guys to enter an
alternate reality with me, just

495
00:26:52,900 --> 00:26:56,500
for a moment here where it's
kind of too bad.

496
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,800
You know, a lot of times people
win an Oscar and then they go

497
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,900
make their big action
Blockbuster after the fact,

498
00:27:00,900 --> 00:27:04,500
because it's like, all right.
I you know, I labored away

499
00:27:04,500 --> 00:27:06,800
trying to win this thing.
Now I want to go have some fun

500
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,900
but we were only a few years
away from like if Day-Lewis wins

501
00:27:11,900 --> 00:27:15,900
his Oscar in in 92 and then
takes three years off, we could

502
00:27:15,900 --> 00:27:17,900
have plausibly had him come
back.

503
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,800
Back with an action Blockbuster
directed by Michael Bay.

504
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,800
And I am I am so sad that we
never got the Day-Lewis Bay

505
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,800
pairing.
Like the rock could have been

506
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:34,900
Day-Lewis and not Nicolas Cage.
That would have been something

507
00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:37,400
easily could have been Daniel
Day-Lewis that gets the Sean

508
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,200
Connery lecture about going to
prom queen.

509
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,100
Yes.
And he would have done it with

510
00:27:42,100 --> 00:27:45,200
such gravitas like that's his
Oscars clip right there.

511
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,900
All right, Brad, I guess.
Let's go.

512
00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:50,900
Didn't talk about Madeleine
Stowe in this movie.

513
00:27:50,900 --> 00:27:55,000
Who is somebody you know to
borrow shamelessly from a

514
00:27:55,008 --> 00:27:56,500
podcast that we've already
mentioned on.

515
00:27:56,500 --> 00:28:00,200
Here is an actress that really
got swallowed up by the mid to

516
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,800
late 90s and we can say got
Market corrected by a couple

517
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,000
other actresses.
But truly, I mean she had a

518
00:28:07,008 --> 00:28:10,600
moment there and then was pretty
much gone.

519
00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:13,700
And, you know, Daniel a you're a
few years older than we are.

520
00:28:13,700 --> 00:28:16,400
So I'm sure that you may be
followed her career a little bit

521
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,900
more closely than we did.
But I mean, in your opinion like

522
00:28:20,100 --> 00:28:23,900
what happened to Madeleine Stowe
the short answer is I have no

523
00:28:23,900 --> 00:28:27,000
idea.
I think of her and Julia Ormond

524
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:32,000
and and the same kind of
category is these beautiful

525
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,500
brunette actresses that had this
sort of classical range to them.

526
00:28:35,700 --> 00:28:40,800
MIT were in a pretty good number
of major, huge Hollywood movies

527
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,100
in the early to mid 90s and then
just disappear off the face of

528
00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:46,200
the Earth.
And you know, II don't know the

529
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,600
answer.
So I don't want to pretend Do I

530
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,900
do?
But with a lot of these

531
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,200
actresses, I think sometimes the
cases they didn't want it that

532
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,800
they that they, you know, wanted
to raise a family.

533
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,600
Instead, you know, that's
definitely what happened to

534
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,300
Bridget Fonda and she said as
much.

535
00:29:00,300 --> 00:29:03,000
Yeah.
But whether or not that's the

536
00:29:03,008 --> 00:29:05,000
case with what happened,
Madeleine Stowe, I have no idea

537
00:29:05,500 --> 00:29:07,500
but you know, another one of my
favorite movies from the air has

538
00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:09,300
12 Monkeys, which she was also
fantastic.

539
00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:13,500
Yeah, I do think that you can
never underestimate the Julia

540
00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:16,200
Roberts atomic bomb.
That went off in Hollywood in

541
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,500
the 90s and how I mean, your,
you hit the nail on the head,

542
00:29:19,500 --> 00:29:24,700
there was just like a plethora
of brunette leading women, and,

543
00:29:24,700 --> 00:29:26,800
you know, she's one of them and
I think very, like, her face.

544
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,500
Very structurally, reminds me a
lot of Juliette binoche as well.

545
00:29:29,500 --> 00:29:32,800
And so, I think there may have
been some confusion, you know?

546
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,600
I think she looks a lot like
Andie MacDowell.

547
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,600
Like, there were just so many
people competing for these roles

548
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,700
and then all of a sudden, Julia
Roberts upends all that and now

549
00:29:41,700 --> 00:29:44,800
there's no more rules because
everybody wants like this

550
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,800
redhead, who's do, you know,
doing a completely different

551
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,900
thing.
It's just really interesting to

552
00:29:49,900 --> 00:29:55,200
me to see people throughout, you
know, Hollywood history, who had

553
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,300
such a good career and then they
just happened to run up against

554
00:29:58,300 --> 00:30:02,800
the 2017 Warriors of of
actresses or actors.

555
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,900
And it just seems like the whole
climate of Hollywood changes and

556
00:30:06,900 --> 00:30:08,800
the rug gets pulled out from
under them a little bit.

557
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,500
Yeah, you know that I was
listening to a Hollywood

558
00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:14,300
Reporter podcast interview with
Michelle Pfeiffer a while back

559
00:30:14,500 --> 00:30:17,500
and there's a part where in the
interview where they just said,

560
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,600
you know, I I've seen your name
attached to a lot of roles that

561
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,600
you allegedly turned down.
Can we just go through some of

562
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,600
them and the interviewer Wist
off, probably 15 movies in a

563
00:30:24,608 --> 00:30:26,700
row.
Just were you offered that one

564
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:29,800
and she says yep that one.
Yep and it was it was everything

565
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,500
from that are it was it was
pretty woman, it was Thelma and

566
00:30:32,500 --> 00:30:36,100
Louise, you know, every major
lead female role from that era

567
00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:37,500
and Silence of the Lambs and
movie.

568
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:40,000
That remember Michelle, Pfeiffer
turned down before when someone

569
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,500
else.
Hmm, all right?

570
00:30:41,500 --> 00:30:43,300
Brad, what do you think of
Madeleine Stowe in this movie?

571
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,800
I thought she was really great.
I think that she has a gravity.

572
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:53,300
Is, she has like a solidness to
her character and the way she

573
00:30:53,300 --> 00:30:57,200
portrays her character that like
really draws you in.

574
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,700
And I think that one of the most
important things for me with any

575
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:07,400
romance in a movie, is that it
has to be believable that the

576
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,500
two people would fall for each
other.

577
00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:14,100
And I think that with Daniel
Day-Lewis playing this man

578
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:19,200
caught in between two worlds,
extremely serious, you know,

579
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,100
motivated person.
You have to have a similar

580
00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:27,000
character opposite of him and I
think that Madeline Stowe really

581
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,200
does a great job with that.
You know, you couldn't just have

582
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,500
oh, I don't know like like one
of the the younger sisters from

583
00:31:34,500 --> 00:31:38,000
Pride and Prejudice.
You know some young British girl

584
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,500
who's just completely silly
about her life, like you needed

585
00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:43,500
somebody who's a little bit
older, a little more mature and

586
00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:45,600
I thought you did really really
great with that.

587
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,800
Yeah, I want her in the role and
more important.

588
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,400
I think she and Daniel Day-Lewis
is have fantastic chemistry in

589
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,700
the movie?
I'm young, you know, the the

590
00:31:54,700 --> 00:31:56,900
seduction scene where he
famously.

591
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,500
She asked him what he's looking
at.

592
00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:02,000
He says I'm looking at you miss
just the way they look at each

593
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,600
other.
You know that's you can't.

594
00:32:04,900 --> 00:32:07,000
You can't manufacture that kind
of chemistry.

595
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,500
Hmm.
It makes you it makes you wonder

596
00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:12,400
like what Day-Lewis was up to
with his method acting?

597
00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:16,300
He just actually fall head over
heels in love.

598
00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:19,400
Her like as part of the role.
Well, let me tell you something

599
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,700
about his method acting that I
weren't in the making of is that

600
00:32:21,700 --> 00:32:25,400
he really did learn how to run
and load to muskets at the same

601
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,200
time.
That's incredible.

602
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,400
If she didn't fall in love with
him after that, I don't know

603
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,100
what else he could do.
Yeah, this is so funny.

604
00:32:34,100 --> 00:32:35,700
Brad.
Usually we don't talk about

605
00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:37,900
people's like physical looks on
the show.

606
00:32:37,900 --> 00:32:40,100
It's something that's not
usually apropos to.

607
00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:42,400
What we're talking about
Sylvester Stallone with a beard.

608
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,200
I was gonna say over the last
few weeks, the attractiveness of

609
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,500
Male leads has come up.
Repeatedly.

610
00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:52,300
Yeah and you know last week we
said De Niro and heat might be

611
00:32:52,300 --> 00:32:56,000
Peak attractive De Niro.
I don't know man.

612
00:32:56,300 --> 00:32:59,800
This might be Peak attractive
Day-Lewis 100%.

613
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,100
I don't even know what else
would be a competitor.

614
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,700
I mean I think if you wanted to
go like the salt and pepper look

615
00:33:04,700 --> 00:33:07,500
you could you could offer up
Phantom thread but it's a

616
00:33:07,508 --> 00:33:10,100
completely different look.
Yeah you know and to say a

617
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:12,900
little bit more about the
chemistry between Daniel

618
00:33:12,900 --> 00:33:16,000
Day-Lewis and Madeleine Stowe in
the film The the scene under the

619
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,400
water All were Daniel day was
gives the famous, you know, no

620
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,200
matter how far no matter, you
know, how I'll find you, no

621
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,100
matter how long like that is one
of the corniest scenes in movie

622
00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:27,900
history.
But it works here because you

623
00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:31,500
actually believe in that set of
emotions between these two

624
00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:33,900
characters.
Mmm, and you replace it with any

625
00:33:33,900 --> 00:33:37,000
other actors and that becomes
one of the most laughable scenes

626
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,700
in film history.
But with these two because of

627
00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:43,100
what they brought to the film up
to that point the movie gets

628
00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:45,000
away with it.
Yeah.

629
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,300
Bob you know, I have talked a
lot.

630
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,900
A lot about how there's not
really any young, you know,

631
00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:54,300
super star talent in the acting
world right now.

632
00:33:54,900 --> 00:33:58,200
And I like I really think about,
you know what if you threw a

633
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:03,600
Chris Evans in that role or a
Michael B Jordan or something

634
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:08,500
like that, where I'm like I just
don't see them being able to,

635
00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:11,300
you know, if I'm guessing the
Daniel Day-Lewis was in his

636
00:34:11,300 --> 00:34:15,100
mid-30s when he had this role.
Yeah, thereabouts.

637
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,199
Yeah.
I don't see them.

638
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,000
Mid-30s being able to pull off
that line and that scene in the

639
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,900
way the Day-Lewis does.
Because you're right Daniel he

640
00:34:22,900 --> 00:34:26,500
knocks it out of the park.
Now if there is somebody in this

641
00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:29,800
cast that I think actually
steals the whole damn movie it's

642
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,400
Wes studi as magua he is
fantastic.

643
00:34:33,699 --> 00:34:37,100
Like talk about the kind of
performance that should have

644
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:40,199
been nominated for an Oscar as
much as I love ddl.

645
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:43,600
Like the best performance in
this movie is him as the

646
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,800
villain.
Yeah.

647
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,000
He's an incredible villain.
It should not go unsaid that.

648
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,000
He speaks I think three
different languages in the film.

649
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,800
Mhm.
And Wes studi did actually get

650
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,100
an honorary, Oscar, a few years
back for being one of the great

651
00:34:56,100 --> 00:34:59,400
Native, American actors.
Yeah, and well deserved man and

652
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,300
it's just, you know, again, it's
too bad.

653
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:04,100
That it couldn't be recognized
in the moment because it sounds

654
00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:05,000
like we're all in agreement
here.

655
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,600
He's the best performance in the
film for me easily.

656
00:35:08,300 --> 00:35:14,200
Yeah, he he brings a tenacity to
that role that you just don't

657
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,000
often see in villains.
And I loved it, man.

658
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,900
And while we're talking about
the Native American actors in

659
00:35:20,900 --> 00:35:24,700
the film, we should mention.
I just found out that the actor

660
00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:26,500
who plays Daniel Day-Lewis is
adoptive.

661
00:35:26,500 --> 00:35:30,600
Father, the Mohican Chingo took
in the film is his name is

662
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,200
Russell Means and this is his
first movie.

663
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,500
He was actually one of the main
characters in The Wounded Knee,

664
00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:42,400
standoff against the FBI in
1973, and Michael man sought him

665
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,500
out to put him in the movie for
that reason.

666
00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:47,600
Wow.
Man talk about a great debut.

667
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:49,300
Yeah.
Ho like he didn't even kick

668
00:35:49,300 --> 00:35:52,000
around on the Indie scene for
any amount of time is just

669
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,600
straight into Last of the
Mohicans.

670
00:35:53,900 --> 00:35:56,800
Yeah, Michael Mann said in the
commentary that, you know,

671
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,300
Russell Means, is in his mid-50s
at the time and had saw him out

672
00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:02,400
because he thought, you know,
and making a film about Native

673
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,800
Americans would be beautiful.
If the, you know, one of the

674
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,500
Public's main imagery of Native
Americans was in the film.

675
00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:11,000
And so years in his mid-50s and
he was out of shape, as most

676
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,700
people in the mid 50's are the
way Michael Mann.

677
00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:14,600
Put it, but it only took him
about three weeks to get

678
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,200
completely ready.
E for the film, holy cow.

679
00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:19,600
I guess when you hang around
with Day-Lewis, living in the

680
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,300
forest, life is exactly just
whip you into shape.

681
00:36:23,900 --> 00:36:25,200
All right.
Before we go to break guys, is

682
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,200
there anybody else from the cast
that you want to call out for

683
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,900
their performances?
There are a lot of actors in the

684
00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:33,400
film who have smaller parts that
people might not.

685
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,200
Realize are there?
No from elsewhere, the actor who

686
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,800
played price in Mad Men is one
of the British soldiers.

687
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,600
Oh yeah.
What is his name price?

688
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,200
We'll just call him price.
Yeah.

689
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:45,700
Yeah.
Yeah.

690
00:36:45,700 --> 00:36:48,900
There you go.
He postlethwaite shows up for a

691
00:36:48,900 --> 00:36:50,500
hot dog.
People, the waiters in the film.

692
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,700
Sorry, I'm gonna look at this
actor's name real fast.

693
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,000
And also the actress who plays
Madeleine Stowe is that younger

694
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,600
sister in the film Cora?
She only met go team a.

695
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,200
Yeah, she was in Game of
Thrones, she was Maggy.

696
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,200
The Frog who gives the
prophecies to Cersei that her

697
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,700
kids will all die, huh?
Oh, that's cool.

698
00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:16,100
I love when people like kind of
kick around in the same genres

699
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:18,300
for most of their career, like
Brad.

700
00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:22,300
The guy in Braveheart with the
scars on his face every time he

701
00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:24,400
was in a movie.
After that, it was like, yep,

702
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,700
you see that guy in a movie?
And you're like, I know exactly

703
00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:27,900
what kind of movie this is going
to be.

704
00:37:27,900 --> 00:37:32,000
Now like I just love it when you
can find an actor and when you

705
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,000
see them show up in a movie, you
immediately know like what

706
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,300
trajectory the movies going to
go on Bob book?

707
00:37:38,300 --> 00:37:41,700
Huge fan of Typecast.
Jared Harris is the British

708
00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:43,400
actors name to his price and
admitted.

709
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:48,900
He was also the star of the HBO
miniseries about the reactor

710
00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:50,900
explosion.
Oh, Chernobyl, yeah, your Noble,

711
00:37:50,900 --> 00:37:52,200
yes, he was the star of
Chernobyl.

712
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,100
No, man.
Well, Brad on that note.

713
00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:57,100
I think it's time for us to hit
pause.

714
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,200
We're going to try this
Glenlivet Enigma, but before we

715
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,000
get into that, our friends at
Detroit City, Distillery have

716
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,100
hooked, Daniel up with some
samples.

717
00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:09,300
So, unfortunately, you know, the
u.s. mail being what it is, we

718
00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:12,400
could not send Daniel a sample
of the Enigma that we're tasting

719
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,200
today, but we have some good
Connections in the Michigan area

720
00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:19,600
and I think they made a like, a
home delivery to Daniel to drop

721
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,500
off some samples.
And I'd love to get your

722
00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:22,800
thoughts on them.
Daniel before we go to break.

723
00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:24,300
Rake here.
They did.

724
00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:26,700
I unfortunately have not tasted
them yet but in addition to the

725
00:38:26,700 --> 00:38:31,200
samples they gave us a a past
for a tour of the Distillery of

726
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,000
the to James.
Distillery in Detroit, that my

727
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,600
wife and I are very excited to
go on.

728
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,800
Oh nice.
We tried.

729
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,400
We tried all three of those I
think earlier in the season and

730
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,400
there's one it's a vermouth
finish.

731
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,200
Try Phenomenal.
Yeah.

732
00:38:45,500 --> 00:38:48,400
Like just yeah so so good.
And so how do you recommend

733
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,200
drinking that as fast as
possible?

734
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,700
No, I think it's honestly, it'll
be really good over a big rock.

735
00:38:57,700 --> 00:38:59,600
It's good neat.
You know it's like it's pretty

736
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,600
high proof as I remember Brad.
I think it was like 115 proof or

737
00:39:02,607 --> 00:39:04,900
something.
But yeah, man.

738
00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:08,200
It was darn good.
Yeah, honestly, Daniel, I am

739
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,700
really excited for you to get up
to Detroit City.

740
00:39:10,700 --> 00:39:13,000
Distillery that that'll be a
blast for you guys.

741
00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:14,900
Yeah, we're looking forward to
it.

742
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,400
All right, Brad, let's jump into
this Glenlivet.

743
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,400
What do you say?
Let's get to it.

744
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,000
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Alright, so today we are

765
00:40:30,107 --> 00:40:33,500
checking out the Glenlivet
Enigma Brad.

766
00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:36,100
This is a special release
whiskey from the Glenlivet.

767
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:38,900
Distillery, it is part of a
series that they called The

768
00:40:38,900 --> 00:40:42,400
Mysteries Series where they put
out a whiskey with.

769
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,200
Absolutely no information about
it.

770
00:40:44,300 --> 00:40:47,300
Like they, they legally, they
have to put the ABV on the

771
00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:49,700
packaging.
So we know that this is a very

772
00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:52,900
high proof Scotch but they don't
release any tasting notes.

773
00:40:52,900 --> 00:40:55,600
They don't release any of the
information about The barrel or

774
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,400
how long it's been aged, like,
it's kind of cool.

775
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,300
It's like a little game.
And then later on, in the year

776
00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:05,800
of that special release, they
ostensibly release that

777
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,100
information to the public so
they can play along.

778
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,300
This was the fourth one in that
series.

779
00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:13,900
It came out in 2019, so it's
like, you know, it was a one-off

780
00:41:13,900 --> 00:41:16,100
release, you might still find
some on the Shelf.

781
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,200
Brad, I think I picked this up
in the Ohio liquor last call

782
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,800
section because you know, it's a
limited release so they had to

783
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,300
get it off their books.
And so we've been Open onto it

784
00:41:25,300 --> 00:41:27,300
for a while.
I wanted to try to pair it up

785
00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:30,100
with the movie A Beautiful Mind,
because we've been talking about

786
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:32,300
doing that one for a while and
then when that didn't make it

787
00:41:32,300 --> 00:41:35,000
onto this year's list of movies,
I was just like, screw it.

788
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,900
Like we need to, we need to
drink it before it's been

789
00:41:37,900 --> 00:41:42,100
available for five years, right?
So we're pairing it up with Last

790
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:44,200
of the Mohicans.
And we'll have to find some

791
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,100
clever way of linking the two,
but that's what we're drinking

792
00:41:47,100 --> 00:41:49,800
today.
This is, hey, if it's if all of

793
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,600
them are based on Mysteries, do
they like send you a deerstalker

794
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,600
hat to go with it?
They say.

795
00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:57,000
Should, here's the funny thing
about this one though.

796
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,400
Brad I can find information
about all of their other mystery

797
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,900
releases, but it doesn't look
like they ever actually released

798
00:42:04,900 --> 00:42:09,200
the info on Enigma truly.
Truly an Indiana.

799
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,300
Yeah, I mean I guess maybe you
know it was late 2019.

800
00:42:12,300 --> 00:42:15,300
So maybe they were really
worried about this new pandemic

801
00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:18,100
thing that was about to go
around the world but like I just

802
00:42:18,100 --> 00:42:20,900
can't believe like it looks like
they finally posted some tasting

803
00:42:20,900 --> 00:42:24,500
notes but then they actually
incorrectly labeled them.

804
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,200
As belonging to a different
bottle in this mystery Series.

805
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,800
So I don't know if they're even
really the right tasting notes,

806
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,100
so we're really going into this
blind, and I'm kind of happy

807
00:42:34,100 --> 00:42:36,800
about that.
What you're saying is that the

808
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,200
only tasting notes, people
really need is ours.

809
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,900
That's right.
So you have had this already.

810
00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:46,300
I have not, like I said, this is
clocking in at a pretty

811
00:42:46,300 --> 00:42:50,400
staggering.
Let's see what's that at 60.6%

812
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:55,400
ABV or 120. 1.2 proof.
Making this I believe the

813
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,300
highest proof Scotch whiskey
we've ever had on the show.

814
00:42:58,700 --> 00:43:00,400
Yeah, I was in say, is it
Ardbeg?

815
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,700
That has a barrel proof Scotch
that we had?

816
00:43:04,900 --> 00:43:06,500
Yeah.
And Laphroaig has one too, but I

817
00:43:06,508 --> 00:43:08,800
don't think we've tried their
Cask strength version.

818
00:43:08,900 --> 00:43:12,400
We have with the Ardbeg.
Which one was that?

819
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,300
Iguodala who good?
All yeah, who'd always

820
00:43:15,300 --> 00:43:18,700
delicious.
Yeah, I honestly after having

821
00:43:18,700 --> 00:43:22,500
this one I think that more
scotches need to be made at Cask

822
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:26,200
strength because they're Is Bob
live, really?

823
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,500
Really good.
I am swirling this around in my

824
00:43:28,500 --> 00:43:30,700
glass right now, Brad, and I
have to say the color on.

825
00:43:30,700 --> 00:43:33,700
This is really interesting.
It's a little bit more, like

826
00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:36,800
caramely and color than you'd
normally get with a scotch and

827
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,900
an almost has like, a reddish
Hue to it.

828
00:43:38,900 --> 00:43:42,400
It's like a strawberry blond,
kind of like, kind of whiskey.

829
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,600
I'm digging it so far, man, but
let's go ahead and jump into our

830
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,700
nosing notes.
I'm going to stick my nose in

831
00:43:47,700 --> 00:43:50,100
this class while you Regale us
with yours.

832
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,700
Yeah, this one has an incredible
knows.

833
00:43:53,700 --> 00:43:56,900
I got a little It of Honey at
the start and then there's some

834
00:43:56,900 --> 00:44:00,600
charcuterie, there's some
vanilla and then a little hint

835
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,900
of an herbal almost like a
Watercress.

836
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,700
It has such a fascinating.
Those here that I really, really

837
00:44:07,700 --> 00:44:09,700
like I will give it an eight and
a half.

838
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,800
I'm going to just stick it a
seven and a half on this.

839
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,600
And the only reason for that is
I'm picking up pretty much

840
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,100
everything that you're laying
down here.

841
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,500
But the first thing that jumped
out to me is that this almost

842
00:44:21,500 --> 00:44:25,600
reminds me of like a younger Rye
or a Hunger bourbon.

843
00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:29,900
There's some yeast Enos on this
that I don't typically get on

844
00:44:29,900 --> 00:44:33,100
Irish or scotch whiskies and
it's kind of the first time I've

845
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:35,200
ever really experienced this on
a scotch.

846
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,500
So, I have to imagine that
that's intentional.

847
00:44:37,500 --> 00:44:41,300
That this is not just a really
young Scotch, because Brad we've

848
00:44:41,300 --> 00:44:44,800
had really young malt whiskies
before they don't smell yeasty.

849
00:44:44,900 --> 00:44:48,100
You know what I mean?
So, this smells like very, very

850
00:44:48,100 --> 00:44:49,600
bready.
And that's kind of the

851
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,100
predominant note here for me.
I like it, but my past

852
00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:56,500
experience with things that
smell like, Yeast is not great.

853
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,400
So I'm gonna give it a seven and
a half.

854
00:44:58,700 --> 00:45:02,400
Well I am going to move onto the
palette here on the taste.

855
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,100
I think that you get some mint
right off the front and there's

856
00:45:06,100 --> 00:45:10,000
that honey coming through
vegetable hits the mid palate

857
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,400
and then there's a little bit of
caramel mixed with almost like a

858
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,100
peppery.
White pepper feel as well.

859
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:21,500
I think that this is an
incredible tasting Scotch Bob.

860
00:45:21,700 --> 00:45:23,200
This is to give it.
This is beautiful.

861
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,100
Yeah, I'm gonna give it Nine out
of ten on the palate.

862
00:45:26,900 --> 00:45:32,000
Yeah man this wow it's got the
sweet and light and bright notes

863
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,300
of an Irish whiskey on the front
but with even more sweetness

864
00:45:35,300 --> 00:45:38,100
this is like almost Bourbon
sweet on the front.

865
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,000
It hits the mid palate and then
it really opens up and it kind

866
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,900
of reminds me just like
experientially of that

867
00:45:43,900 --> 00:45:48,000
Glenmorangie a star we had last
week where it was pretty tame on

868
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,600
the front and then once it hit
the mid palate it was like hey

869
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,800
here's that alcohol it's very
tingly on the tongue it Don't

870
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,000
really hit you as much on the
Finish or like the the sort of

871
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,800
chest burn on the way down, but
it also doesn't drink like 120

872
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,500
proof.
It brings those great kind of

873
00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:09,500
herbal almost bitter, notes of a
smoky scotch on the back like in

874
00:46:09,500 --> 00:46:13,500
this is not PD, but it has that
great sort of smokiness.

875
00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:16,600
We've come to expect just in
terms of like how it delivers

876
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,200
that Char level.
This is a beautiful Scotch man,

877
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,800
it's software.
It needs to be soft.

878
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,000
It packs a punch where it needs
to pack a punch.

879
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:25,900
I'm going to give this Not
attend on the flavor.

880
00:46:26,700 --> 00:46:29,100
Yeah.
I like I said before, there

881
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:31,700
needs to be more cash strength
scotches out there.

882
00:46:31,700 --> 00:46:36,800
People the finish here comes off
a little bit from the palette.

883
00:46:37,300 --> 00:46:40,900
There's some folks some tobacco
and then it kind of took on a

884
00:46:40,908 --> 00:46:44,500
little bit of a cherry cordial
flavor at the end a little bit

885
00:46:44,500 --> 00:46:48,000
creamy that I liked, I'll give
it an 8 out of 10 on the Finish,

886
00:46:48,500 --> 00:46:50,000
you know.
It kind of reminds me of on the

887
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,500
Finish is like the nose and the
initial tasting notes of like a

888
00:46:53,508 --> 00:46:55,100
Willett bourbon.
Duct.

889
00:46:55,300 --> 00:47:00,000
It's got that sort of like Rosie
but also cherry flavor but it's

890
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,600
mingled with that sort of like
cigarette Ash thing you get on

891
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,900
Scotch.
It's a really interesting it

892
00:47:05,900 --> 00:47:09,100
doesn't quite get medicinal but
it's kind of teetering on the

893
00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:11,700
edge there.
I like it because it still stays

894
00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:14,800
pretty sweet but I do think it
is a step down from the palette

895
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,400
a little bit.
I'm going to give it an 8 out of

896
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:17,800
10.
Yeah.

897
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,000
And then we get into balance.
I actually think that this is

898
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,300
one of the best balanced
Whiskey's we've had in a little

899
00:47:24,300 --> 00:47:26,700
while.
You know, I my scores for nose

900
00:47:26,700 --> 00:47:29,500
and finish were a little below
the taste, but I think this is a

901
00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:33,400
really complex whiskey.
That has a lot of interesting

902
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,600
flavors working together
beautifully.

903
00:47:35,900 --> 00:47:37,900
I'm going to give it a nine and
a half on balance.

904
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,000
Wow, yeah I don't know if it's
quite that well balanced for me

905
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:46,000
just because the nose didn't
give away how complex and how

906
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,500
much of a journey it would be on
the palate and on the finish, it

907
00:47:49,500 --> 00:47:52,400
was kind of a dull nose by
comparison and that's going to

908
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,300
dig me just a little bit, but
I'm going to I'm out to an eight

909
00:47:55,300 --> 00:47:57,500
and a half on the balance.
Yeah.

910
00:47:57,500 --> 00:48:00,400
And then that takes us into our
value category.

911
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:05,100
Now obviously you're not able to
purchase this, you know, from

912
00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:08,400
retailers anymore as it's been
out for a few years but the best

913
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:13,500
I can find is that currently you
could find it online for $150.

914
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:19,000
I've seen a couple online stores
offering it for about 110 and I

915
00:48:19,008 --> 00:48:21,600
again I'm not factoring in the
shipping on that so I have no

916
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,700
idea after shipping how much
this would cost you.

917
00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:29,600
When I This up off the shelf in
Ohio, it was at $100 and I think

918
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,800
that's a fantastic value for
this Brad and I'll get into my

919
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:37,400
score on was the market.
Currently is but for a barrel

920
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,200
proof, Scotch whiskey.
That is like, let's be frank

921
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,100
here.
It's part of the gimmick and I

922
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:45,300
have no idea how old this
actually ended up being.

923
00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:48,500
But I have to imagine that this
is, you know, at the very least

924
00:48:48,500 --> 00:48:53,000
what 68 years old Brad, like is
not to be normally sold at under

925
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,800
that age points.
So I mean, I think a hundred

926
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,000
dollars is a pretty darn good
value for what you're getting

927
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:03,400
here.
At 110, 120 130, I have to

928
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,100
factor that in a little bit, but
I still think Brad that this is

929
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:08,900
like, at least an 8 out of 10 on
value.

930
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:15,100
Yeah, I think at a well, yeah, I
think if we're talking 110 120,

931
00:49:15,100 --> 00:49:20,800
I'm with you at an 8 out of 10.
I did do my value at $150, which

932
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,400
I would, I would give it a 7 out
of 10, so I'll stick it a 7 out

933
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,200
of 10.
And I think it's a little bit

934
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,900
high at 150 but still a really
good value.

935
00:49:29,900 --> 00:49:32,500
But yeah, you're right if this
was a hundred dollars, this

936
00:49:32,500 --> 00:49:35,600
would be like a 99 and a half
out of ten value.

937
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,000
I mean I'm really glad we held
off on this one till the last

938
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,400
episode of the season.
This feels like it feels like a

939
00:49:42,408 --> 00:49:45,000
special occasion whiskey.
I'm not necessarily saying that

940
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,000
it is and it's certainly not in
that sort of rarefied air of

941
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,400
some of these allocated bottles.
We've tried before but because

942
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,800
it is a special release.
It's hard to get your hands on

943
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,900
now.
And then when you factor in the

944
00:49:55,900 --> 00:49:59,300
proof point, and just how
complex the flavor is man, if

945
00:49:59,300 --> 00:50:03,100
you can find a bottle of
Glenlivet Enigma, I would highly

946
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:05,300
recommend trying out or buying
it.

947
00:50:05,900 --> 00:50:09,100
Yeah, 100%.
This is a whiskey that would be

948
00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:11,200
awesome to have on your shelf.
Also if you haven't seen it

949
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,700
before please Google an image of
it because it is a killer

950
00:50:14,700 --> 00:50:16,500
bottle.
Yeah, the packaging Is Awesome

951
00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:19,700
on this man.
Brad, I'm coming out to a 40 1

952
00:50:19,700 --> 00:50:21,700
out of 50.
What do you coming out to?

953
00:50:22,100 --> 00:50:24,500
I'm at a 42 out of 50 Bob.
Oh wow.

954
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:31,200
Okay, so we're at a 41.5 on
average or an 83 out of 100 and

955
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,900
you did that math.
So fast, dude, I'm so good at

956
00:50:33,900 --> 00:50:36,700
this.
This is pretty much a no-brainer

957
00:50:36,700 --> 00:50:40,100
recommendation, I think yeah,
easy, easy recommend.

958
00:50:40,100 --> 00:50:43,600
If you see it at the bar, get
up, or if you are able to get a

959
00:50:43,607 --> 00:50:45,900
bottle, definitely buy it.
All right.

960
00:50:45,900 --> 00:50:48,300
Brad well that was pretty
painless and dare I say

961
00:50:48,300 --> 00:50:51,500
enjoyable let's get back into
talking about Last of the

962
00:50:51,500 --> 00:50:52,900
Mohicans.
What do you say?

963
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:59,500
Let's get to it.
All right, everybody that was

964
00:50:59,500 --> 00:51:04,100
Glenlivet Enigma a whiskey that
I had the very least thought was

965
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:05,800
truly incredible.
Hmm.

966
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:11,600
A true Enigma a true Enigma you
know it isn't a true Enigma, how

967
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,400
terrible you are at two facts in
the faucet to facts and a

968
00:51:15,408 --> 00:51:19,400
falsehood every time I am given
a glimmer of hope that I will

969
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,700
finish above 500 on this season.
The door just said, yes.

970
00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:26,400
I mean, it slams.
Shut, you got me again last week

971
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,800
with heat.
You I as I recall last week, you

972
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,200
crafted some pretty good ones.
Yeah.

973
00:51:32,300 --> 00:51:34,900
Well I only craft one.
That's all, that's true.

974
00:51:34,900 --> 00:51:38,700
That's the internet crafts.
The other two, how long till you

975
00:51:38,700 --> 00:51:42,300
start using like chat GPT to
start making these these

976
00:51:42,300 --> 00:51:45,600
questions who's to say that I
haven't been using it all.

977
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,800
It's all been an AI simulation.
I'm an AI.

978
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,900
That's it.
All right, man.

979
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:56,200
So for those who are uninitiated
to facts in a falsehood is

980
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,000
exactly what it sounds like Brad
pulls a couple facts, facts in

981
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,100
quotation marks, off of the
internet, about the making of

982
00:52:03,100 --> 00:52:05,100
this movie.
He adds one of his own

983
00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:08,000
falsehoods to the mix, and I
have to try to parse out which

984
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,900
ones are true.
And which one is the falsehood.

985
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,400
Brad, go ahead and hit me with
your two facts in a falsehood.

986
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:19,300
Alright, eFax number one,
Colonel, Munro here is a heavily

987
00:52:19,300 --> 00:52:22,300
fictionalized Version of his
real-life counterpart.

988
00:52:22,300 --> 00:52:25,200
The real Colonel Munro.
Never married had no children.

989
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,500
He survived the massacre of his
men and reached Albany.

990
00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:30,300
Only the died.
Three months later of an

991
00:52:30,300 --> 00:52:34,000
epileptic seizure.
That's what you get, fact number

992
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,200
two, the story told by Nathaniel
when they are hiding from the

993
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,800
Huron war party was based on the
poem Stargazer written by famous

994
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,800
Native, American poet crisostomo
Apache.

995
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,700
Fax number three.
As a personally as a big Star

996
00:52:49,700 --> 00:52:51,900
Wars fan myself.
Elf I couldn't help but notice

997
00:52:52,100 --> 00:52:55,100
that the Wilhelm scream was
inserted about an hour and a

998
00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:58,600
half into the movie, right?
When Daniel Day-Lewis bludgeons

999
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:04,000
an enemy in the face Oh man,
what was inserted half hour and

1000
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,500
the Earth The Wilhelm scream,
huh?

1001
00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:10,500
Are you familiar?
I don't think I am.

1002
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,400
It's a sound effect that is in
like hundreds and hundreds of

1003
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,800
movies and it's the sound effect
of the guy just going like like

1004
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,100
when they falls off of
something.

1005
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:25,300
It's like a howl.
It's in hundreds of films.

1006
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:30,700
Yeah, I believe the very first
use of it though was in 1977 s.

1007
00:53:30,900 --> 00:53:31,900
Star Wars.
Was it really?

1008
00:53:31,900 --> 00:53:34,400
I don't know, it was from like
the 30s, like King Kong or

1009
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,400
something.
Oh, I I might just be a Star

1010
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,000
Wars stand and assume that
everything came out of Star

1011
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,600
Wars, but I thought it came from
Star Wars.

1012
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,300
Well, we'll fact check that but
I have to fact-check to other

1013
00:53:47,300 --> 00:53:51,000
things first here.
So, Man, here's the thing Brad

1014
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,400
sometimes you come up with very
innocuous sounding facts like

1015
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,500
none of these sounded spicy or
sexy at all.

1016
00:53:57,900 --> 00:54:00,900
So I just assume that they're
all true because they're kind of

1017
00:54:00,900 --> 00:54:03,200
boring.
Yeah, you're not gonna get much

1018
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,000
help from you on this because I
have absolutely no idea.

1019
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,900
Yeah.
And sense is that the first one

1020
00:54:06,900 --> 00:54:09,700
sounded too?
Well, research to be made up,

1021
00:54:09,700 --> 00:54:12,600
but beyond that, I have no clue.
Number two.

1022
00:54:13,100 --> 00:54:16,300
I also just kind of feel like,
okay, I like it doesn't add

1023
00:54:16,300 --> 00:54:18,200
anything to the enjoyment of the
film.

1024
00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:19,900
So it just kind of seems like
Cool.

1025
00:54:19,900 --> 00:54:22,900
Maybe there's a maybe there's a
pineapple know that my job was

1026
00:54:22,900 --> 00:54:24,800
to add to your enjoyment of the
film.

1027
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:29,300
Bob I'm just gonna go ahead and
say number three is the

1028
00:54:29,300 --> 00:54:34,000
falsehood and that you didn't
have anything on your mind to

1029
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,600
think about except for Star
Wars.

1030
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,300
So you just made up the Star
Wars one Bob.

1031
00:54:39,700 --> 00:54:45,800
That is not true because the
fact is true, The Wilhelm scream

1032
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,200
is in the film.
At the our I think it's our 38.

1033
00:54:49,300 --> 00:54:51,400
Minutes.
It's somewhere in the like right

1034
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,200
around an hour and a half.
Now did you notice that yourself

1035
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:58,300
or was that on IMDb somewhere?
It was on IMDb and then I went

1036
00:54:58,300 --> 00:55:02,100
back to that that area and
heard, okay, okay.

1037
00:55:02,100 --> 00:55:05,500
It's not quite as clear as it is
in the Star Wars films, but it

1038
00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:08,000
is there.
Okay, fact.

1039
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,200
Number two was the falsehood.
Oh, wow.

1040
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,000
Okay.
Yeah, Stargazer, although I did,

1041
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:19,200
do research Cristo so Apache is
a famous, Native, American poet.

1042
00:55:19,700 --> 00:55:22,800
Well, there you go, man.
So you got me again.

1043
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,900
Nailed it.
I'm ending the season on such a

1044
00:55:25,900 --> 00:55:29,200
downer here.
I'm ending the season on a great

1045
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:33,000
great upswing, so I'm not
complaining Bob.

1046
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,400
All right, well let's steer out
of that because that was just a

1047
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,200
brutal.
And let's start talking about

1048
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,700
this movie some more and Daniel,
I think the thing that I really

1049
00:55:41,700 --> 00:55:46,100
want to key in on here is I love
the fact that you are just like

1050
00:55:46,100 --> 00:55:47,800
you came on the podcast.
You're like it's my favorite

1051
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,200
movie ever and then And then
immediately said, Honestly,

1052
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,100
though, it's the last half hour
and I'm really glad you said

1053
00:55:54,100 --> 00:55:56,700
that because right before you
hopped on the call with us

1054
00:55:56,700 --> 00:55:58,800
tonight.
Brad and I were talking about

1055
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:03,600
how you know, this movie really
felt a little bit not dated, but

1056
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:08,900
just kind of slow and a little
bit stayed in the first hour or

1057
00:56:08,900 --> 00:56:11,300
so.
And then, that last 40 something

1058
00:56:11,300 --> 00:56:14,900
minutes was like a breath of
fresh air.

1059
00:56:15,500 --> 00:56:17,400
And I want to go in a little bit
on that.

1060
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,900
I mean, you've talked about the
Cinematic Of the last 10

1061
00:56:19,900 --> 00:56:22,900
minutes, but I really think it
Bears repeating here because

1062
00:56:22,900 --> 00:56:25,900
it's so similar to our
experience with heat last week.

1063
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,400
I think, man just really knows
how to end a film.

1064
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,200
Yeah.
So I basically think of the film

1065
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,400
is, there's the whole film.
There's the last 40 minutes and

1066
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,100
there's the last 10 minutes, the
whole film.

1067
00:56:36,100 --> 00:56:37,800
I give a B+.
Hmm.

1068
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,500
Last 40 minutes.
I given a and the last 10

1069
00:56:41,500 --> 00:56:43,600
minutes I give an A plus plus
plus.

1070
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,100
I love that Brad.
Can you think of any other

1071
00:56:48,100 --> 00:56:49,600
movies that you feel that way
about?

1072
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,600
Like, all right, if you just
crop out this segment of the

1073
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,300
movie, it's a 10 out of 10 but
the rest of it's like an eight.

1074
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,600
Honestly, we can jump back into
Star Wars for a second.

1075
00:56:59,700 --> 00:57:04,700
I think that the endings of both
Revenge of the Sith and Return

1076
00:57:04,700 --> 00:57:09,100
of the Jedi are flat-out.
Incredible.

1077
00:57:09,100 --> 00:57:12,000
You know, like when we when we
did Return of the Jedi said the

1078
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,000
final battle scene from you
know, about the last 40 minutes

1079
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:15,800
of the movie.
Movie.

1080
00:57:16,100 --> 00:57:19,000
I think is just some of the
greatest action sequences of all

1081
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,200
time.
I think the same thing about

1082
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,900
Revenge of the Sith, the last
like, 30, 40 minutes, that movie

1083
00:57:23,900 --> 00:57:27,000
are impeccable.
The first half's of both.

1084
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:31,800
Those movies.
As a, as a massive Star Wars fan

1085
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:38,000
are really not good movies.
We're just not great and I end

1086
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,600
and that doesn't detract from my
enjoyment of them.

1087
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:45,100
But I'm with you in that, like,
if you honed in, it's almost

1088
00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:48,000
like your Going to telescope and
you're looking at, you know, the

1089
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,100
whole forest and the zoom in
onto a little bit of it and

1090
00:57:51,100 --> 00:57:53,600
you're like, oh wow, that's
really beautiful there and then

1091
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,800
you hone in even further like
you said the last 10 minutes and

1092
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,200
you're like oh wow, there's some
great stuff going on here.

1093
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:04,000
Yeah, kind of the Howard, Hawks
famous quote of it, the key to a

1094
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,700
great film is no bad side is 3.
Good scenes and no bad scenes.

1095
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,200
And last Mohicans is like, no
bad scenes and then the last the

1096
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,000
best half-hour you're ever going
to see in your life.

1097
00:58:15,500 --> 00:58:20,400
I was on Twitter today as I am
want to do, and I saw a clip

1098
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,400
from The Social Network.
And I mean, my spicy take is

1099
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,800
that I think the social network
is a really good movie, but it's

1100
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:31,100
no zodiac.
However, it was the scene

1101
00:58:31,100 --> 00:58:33,300
towards the end of the movie
like in the last 15 minutes,

1102
00:58:33,300 --> 00:58:36,700
where Andrew Garfield blows up
on him and smashes the laptop

1103
00:58:36,700 --> 00:58:39,900
and tells him you better lawyer
up ass like it's such a great

1104
00:58:39,900 --> 00:58:42,700
sequence.
I think I saw the same tweet

1105
00:58:42,700 --> 00:58:46,600
because it was someone talking
about how The random quote I'm

1106
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,400
sorry I wasn't wearing my you
flip.

1107
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,800
Yeah it was like her favorite
lines ever and I started

1108
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,800
thinking about how good the
ending of that movie is like I

1109
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:59,500
don't know that that movie is
really like the the ultimatum on

1110
00:58:59,700 --> 00:59:03,400
society that people want to make
it into like it's a very small

1111
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:09,100
and intimate story, but from
that moment to, you know, the

1112
00:59:09,100 --> 00:59:12,000
the final speech that Rashida
Jones gives where she says,

1113
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,500
you're not an asshole, you're
just trying so hard to be and

1114
00:59:14,500 --> 00:59:16,400
then immediately, the Needle
drop of baby.

1115
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,900
You're a rich man.
It is such a great last, 15

1116
00:59:19,900 --> 00:59:21,900
minutes.
Whereas the rest of the movie is

1117
00:59:21,900 --> 00:59:25,300
like a b-plus to me.
I adore The Social Network, my

1118
00:59:25,300 --> 00:59:28,100
hot take on why it hasn't
survived as well.

1119
00:59:28,100 --> 00:59:31,600
Historically is because we no
longer think of Facebook as a

1120
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,800
social network.
We now think of it is the

1121
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,600
network them on parents and
aunts and uncles just spread

1122
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:42,900
Republican disinformation on her
as if Facebook were still like a

1123
00:59:42,900 --> 00:59:45,100
big part of our daily lives as a
real.

1124
00:59:45,100 --> 00:59:48,500
So, Network that we use to
maintain contact with our

1125
00:59:48,500 --> 00:59:51,400
friends, then the movie would
feel more.

1126
00:59:51,700 --> 00:59:54,400
It work, you would retain more
power to us more relevant.

1127
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,400
Yeah, I like that guys.
I I so adore the fact that we

1128
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,900
have gotten off on so many
tangents today and it's like

1129
01:00:00,900 --> 01:00:04,200
really making me wonder how
we're going to do our next

1130
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,400
segment, which we call.
Let's make it a double.

1131
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,500
I'm not going to pair this up
with the social network, but

1132
01:00:09,500 --> 01:00:12,300
let's make it.
A double is our challenge to

1133
01:00:12,300 --> 01:00:15,200
ourselves and to our guests to
find a movie too.

1134
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,200
Pair up with Last of the
Mohicans to make the perfect

1135
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,400
double feature Brad, you want to
start or should we let our

1136
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,900
guests start?
Yeah, I think I actually have a

1137
01:00:23,900 --> 01:00:28,300
pretty unique pick here.
The theme song.

1138
01:00:28,300 --> 01:00:33,800
In this movie obviously has a
very brave Hardy Gladiator type

1139
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,500
of feel to it but there's
moments of it where I was

1140
01:00:37,500 --> 01:00:39,600
listening to it at the end of
the film and I was like, you

1141
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,900
know, this actually kind of
reminds me of like a western

1142
01:00:43,900 --> 01:00:46,700
theme song.
There was something about that,

1143
01:00:46,700 --> 01:00:50,100
that just clicked in my brain.
I'm going to pair this with the

1144
01:00:50,100 --> 01:00:54,800
Searchers, so interesting.
I think that there's enough of a

1145
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:59,200
Vibe of the man dedicated to
find his person.

1146
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,100
No matter.
What's that, like, connects them

1147
01:01:02,100 --> 01:01:05,200
as a through line, and I think
it'd be a really unique viewing

1148
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,100
experience, but I think watching
The Last of the Mohicans and

1149
01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:10,800
then going into the Searchers
would be a really fascinating

1150
01:01:11,100 --> 01:01:14,100
movie evening, I think that
would be like, like, I can just

1151
01:01:14,100 --> 01:01:17,800
see that pairing on A syllabus
in like an intro to film class

1152
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,700
where it the point of it is
depictions of Native Americans

1153
01:01:21,700 --> 01:01:25,500
on film because there are such
wildly different.

1154
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,600
You know, very famously.
We just did the Searchers a

1155
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:32,700
couple months ago, like, the
main villain in that movie is

1156
01:01:33,300 --> 01:01:35,000
supposed to be a Native
American, it's played by a

1157
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,200
German guy.
Like you ain't just really rough

1158
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,400
that did not age well at all,
and but I think you're right.

1159
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,200
Brad that there are some some
themes that they share in

1160
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:46,700
common.
Common and they do have that

1161
01:01:46,700 --> 01:01:50,300
sort of, I don't know if they
have that, that weightiness to

1162
01:01:50,300 --> 01:01:54,200
them, that these kind of
sprawling historical epics.

1163
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:55,600
Have I like that pairing?
Yeah.

1164
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,200
Thanks man.
I'll go next because I don't

1165
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:00,900
think that mine is going to be
that good this week.

1166
01:02:00,900 --> 01:02:03,900
Sometimes I come up with really
clever ones and I was trying to

1167
01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:08,300
think of like oh maybe if you
just want to watch five hours of

1168
01:02:08,300 --> 01:02:12,200
British soldiers getting shot
like pair it up with rrr that

1169
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,400
would be a fantastic double
parent great.

1170
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:18,700
But I think, honestly, the one
that keeps coming back to me is

1171
01:02:18,700 --> 01:02:20,800
The Last Samurai, which is
again.

1172
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,200
I think would be an interesting
pairing to compare and contrast.

1173
01:02:24,500 --> 01:02:27,400
The Last Samurai is a movie that
has caught a lot of crap over

1174
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,400
the last decade or so.
Because, you know, it gets

1175
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,000
lumped in as a white, savior
movie.

1176
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,200
I think it's a little bit more
Nuance than people make it out

1177
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:38,500
to be, but they both have that
sort of Classic Hollywood feel

1178
01:02:38,500 --> 01:02:42,100
to them and I think they also
share really similar themes,

1179
01:02:42,300 --> 01:02:43,800
Brad.
You said it perfectly earlier

1180
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,400
about a man torn.
Between Two Worlds.

1181
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,100
We haven't talked about the
ending of this film yet.

1182
01:02:49,100 --> 01:02:52,800
I think I will a little bit in
my final score, but the way the

1183
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:58,600
note that this movie ends on is
not quite a downer but it it

1184
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,700
makes you think more than any
other part of the movie, makes

1185
01:03:01,700 --> 01:03:04,800
you think.
And I really love that questions

1186
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,800
of identity, arise towards the
end of this film and it's really

1187
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,500
similar with The Last Samurai so
that's going to be my pairing.

1188
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,600
Can I ask a quick question to
clarify?

1189
01:03:14,100 --> 01:03:16,800
Did I miss something?
NG where they talked about how

1190
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,800
like the Mohican tribe had died
out.

1191
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,900
Yeah, that was like right at the
beginning and actually might

1192
01:03:20,900 --> 01:03:24,400
have been in the title card.
Yeah, I would say, I don't think

1193
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,400
you missed anything.
And again, this goes again to

1194
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,700
what man's idea of the movie is.
I don't think he cared that much

1195
01:03:30,700 --> 01:03:34,200
about teaching people anything.
I think he just wanted to make a

1196
01:03:34,207 --> 01:03:35,900
story that appealed to his
visual sense.

1197
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,900
Hmm.
Okay.

1198
01:03:37,900 --> 01:03:39,500
I just want to make sure I
didn't miss anything.

1199
01:03:39,500 --> 01:03:42,300
So I was like wait a second.
So like Ching, got Chuck just

1200
01:03:42,300 --> 01:03:44,800
announces that he's The Last of
the Mohicans and I was kind of

1201
01:03:44,808 --> 01:03:46,500
like Wait, wait.
Wait, like I know that's the

1202
01:03:46,500 --> 01:03:50,300
title of the film but but the
title is over, Daniel Day-Lewis

1203
01:03:50,300 --> 01:03:53,500
and I thought he was The Last of
the Mohicans and I remember him

1204
01:03:53,500 --> 01:03:56,700
saying anything about it but but
if that's not what man was going

1205
01:03:56,700 --> 01:03:59,700
for then that's fine.
I'm in something interesting

1206
01:03:59,700 --> 01:04:03,700
about this film is that in the
entry you guys talked about

1207
01:04:03,700 --> 01:04:05,600
whether you're familiar with the
source material or ever read the

1208
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,900
book.
I don't think Michael Mann's

1209
01:04:07,900 --> 01:04:10,700
ever read the book either and I
know I say that and I don't say

1210
01:04:10,700 --> 01:04:12,400
that as a joke, I think it was
intentional.

1211
01:04:12,500 --> 01:04:15,500
He talked about in the
director's commentary that That

1212
01:04:15,500 --> 01:04:20,300
his impetus for making, the film
is that he loved seeing the 1936

1213
01:04:20,300 --> 01:04:22,600
version when he was like, five
years old.

1214
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,300
Hmm.
And he wanted to basically

1215
01:04:25,500 --> 01:04:28,900
remake his memory of the 1936
version.

1216
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,500
So I don't think he cared about
the book as Source material at

1217
01:04:31,500 --> 01:04:33,800
all to him.
The source material was the 1936

1218
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,400
film.
I love that.

1219
01:04:35,900 --> 01:04:38,500
I just love it when directors
completely discard the sort,

1220
01:04:38,500 --> 01:04:41,900
like, you know, all the stories
about Scorsese never watching

1221
01:04:41,900 --> 01:04:44,100
infernal Affairs before he did
The Departed.

1222
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,400
Like, I don't know if I buy it.
I love that they're just like,

1223
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,200
nope.
I'm gonna do my own thing, not

1224
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:49,700
even worried about the source
material.

1225
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,600
Yeah, I mean far, be it for me
to call Scorsese a liar, but I'm

1226
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,400
not sure I buy that because when
you see the two films, The

1227
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,200
Departed is almost a
shot-for-shot remake.

1228
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,800
Yeah.
So, anyway, Last Samurai is my

1229
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,200
pick and I think it goes back to
what you're saying here to Brad.

1230
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,100
Like not only does it ask these
questions of identity, but it

1231
01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:09,400
also kind of asked the question
of like, who is The Last

1232
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,400
Samurai, who is The Last of the
Mohicans and, you know, we can

1233
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,300
make it a triple feature and
just bring your Edit Star Wars

1234
01:05:16,300 --> 01:05:18,800
film into that and do the Last
Jedi as well.

1235
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,600
Let's have a last series,
Daniel, what is your pick for

1236
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,300
the double feature?
So, you know everything I love

1237
01:05:26,300 --> 01:05:29,600
about the last Mohicans is the
way the last 10 minutes or

1238
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:33,000
structured.
And the way Michael man creates

1239
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:37,500
what I think is this absolute
perfect Fusion between imagery

1240
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:41,100
music and editing and dialogue
isn't even remotely a part of

1241
01:05:41,107 --> 01:05:42,900
that.
So I tried to think of another

1242
01:05:42,900 --> 01:05:48,300
movie where the ending is.
Perfect capture of visuals music

1243
01:05:48,300 --> 01:05:50,100
and editing and doesn't need
dialogue.

1244
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,600
And guess what?
I've stumbled on another Michael

1245
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:57,600
Mann film.
So, it is Ali, the Will Smith

1246
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:02,500
Muhammad Ali biopic from 2001,
which is not one of man's most

1247
01:06:02,500 --> 01:06:07,300
well-regarded films, and there
are parts of it that don't work

1248
01:06:07,300 --> 01:06:09,300
there parts that the come off as
a bit of a mess.

1249
01:06:09,900 --> 01:06:13,900
But when you get to the last 15
minutes of that film, which are

1250
01:06:13,900 --> 01:06:17,300
the famous Rumble, In the jungle
fights between Muhammad Ali and

1251
01:06:17,300 --> 01:06:22,000
George Foreman that the last 15
minutes just bang on all

1252
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:26,900
cylinders and especially their.
What's interesting to me about

1253
01:06:26,900 --> 01:06:30,700
both Ali.
And in last weekend's is just

1254
01:06:30,700 --> 01:06:34,400
before the ending.
I can point to an exact moment

1255
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:38,400
where it's like, okay, this is
where it like almost like really

1256
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,600
starts for me with last
Mohicans.

1257
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:44,100
It's right, when the music kicks
in and they put the guy on the

1258
01:06:44,100 --> 01:06:47,000
flyer and they Walking away from
the Indian work out.

1259
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,900
Yeah.
With all we, it is during the

1260
01:06:49,900 --> 01:06:53,800
ali/foreman fight during a
timeout between rounds.

1261
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,800
And one of the girls holding the
round cards is kind of walking

1262
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,600
around the ring and she catches
a glimpse of Ali and Ali Winx in

1263
01:07:01,607 --> 01:07:04,100
her.
And from that moment, the next

1264
01:07:04,100 --> 01:07:06,700
five minutes are about the best
five minutes, you'll ever see in

1265
01:07:06,707 --> 01:07:10,800
your life and it's a perfect
Recreation of the ending of the

1266
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:15,100
ali/foreman. 1974 fight scene
only the way Michael Mann.

1267
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:19,300
Can see it.
No dialogue just music ends on

1268
01:07:19,300 --> 01:07:21,500
the most gorgeous, freeze-frame,
you'll ever see.

1269
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,000
And it gives me goosebumps no
matter how many times I watch

1270
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:25,900
it.
Yeah, I think Brad, that's one

1271
01:07:25,900 --> 01:07:28,400
thing we haven't really talked
about with man, and it's because

1272
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,100
there haven't been a lot of
needle drops in the movies that

1273
01:07:31,100 --> 01:07:36,000
we watched, but he really is one
of the best when it comes to

1274
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:39,500
incorporating existing music
into his movies and his

1275
01:07:39,500 --> 01:07:43,400
sensibility, for, like, what
music can do to transport you.

1276
01:07:43,900 --> 01:07:47,500
And I've been holding On this
because I know that you have

1277
01:07:47,500 --> 01:07:51,400
never watched anything by man,
but he helped create Miami, Vice

1278
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,700
the TV show, the famous TV show,
there's an episode of Miami

1279
01:07:54,700 --> 01:07:58,700
Vice, it's like the second or
third episode ever and there's

1280
01:07:58,700 --> 01:08:02,500
been this like overarching story
arc where they're going to try

1281
01:08:02,500 --> 01:08:05,900
to take down this drug kingpin
and it's the, you know, it's

1282
01:08:05,900 --> 01:08:08,900
these two cops and they are
pretty much convinced that

1283
01:08:08,900 --> 01:08:13,100
they're going to die.
And Don Johnson's character is

1284
01:08:13,100 --> 01:08:16,700
divorced and lonely.
Lee and brooding.

1285
01:08:17,100 --> 01:08:19,100
And there's a letter for you to
know that I have Goosebumps

1286
01:08:19,100 --> 01:08:20,600
because I already know what
scene you're talking about.

1287
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:24,600
It's so freaking good, man.
And and he pulls over on the

1288
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,100
side of the road as they're like
going to try to take down this

1289
01:08:27,100 --> 01:08:30,399
drug kingpin and he calls his
wife on a pay phone.

1290
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,000
And they had this conversation
where he just asks like you

1291
01:08:33,008 --> 01:08:37,100
know, was it real between us you
know, and behind all that he

1292
01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:41,000
layers in Phil Collins In the
Air Tonight and then the drums

1293
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:45,000
hit and it's like nothing had
ever been like that on TV

1294
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,700
before.
Or I think since it's like one

1295
01:08:47,700 --> 01:08:52,100
of the best directed things I've
ever seen in my entire life to

1296
01:08:52,100 --> 01:08:54,200
your point.
Daniel it's probably the most

1297
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,800
Blissful three minutes I've ever
spent like watching anything.

1298
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,100
It just like it really is this
kind of like transporting

1299
01:09:01,100 --> 01:09:03,800
experience.
Yeah and something I love about

1300
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:10,200
Cinema is the the very specific
curation of the last shots and

1301
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,899
knowing exactly, you know, do
the the credits start rolling

1302
01:09:12,899 --> 01:09:16,600
this second or two seconds later
And I feel like no one is better

1303
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,000
at that than Michael, man.
You know, I don't know if you

1304
01:09:19,008 --> 01:09:21,800
guys have seen his Miami Vice
film adaptation with Colin

1305
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:26,000
Farrell and Jamie Foxx, but the
way that film ends and he uses a

1306
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:31,800
Mogwai song to soundtrack the
ending and the final shot of I

1307
01:09:31,808 --> 01:09:34,399
think it's Colin Farrell walking
into the hospital to check on

1308
01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:37,000
someone and just everything
about it is just the perfect

1309
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,200
ending.
Well I think this has been about

1310
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,700
the perfect ending to our season
six, Brad.

1311
01:09:42,300 --> 01:09:44,200
That means we only have one
thing left to do and that's to

1312
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,899
give this movie A Final score
out of 10.

1313
01:09:47,399 --> 01:09:51,100
I do feel a little bit better
knowing that Daniel kind of

1314
01:09:51,100 --> 01:09:54,100
thinks of the movie as a whole,
is a B+ because I'm kind of in

1315
01:09:54,100 --> 01:09:56,700
the same boat like there are
moments in this movie that are

1316
01:09:56,700 --> 01:09:59,800
absolutely Transcendent and then
taken as a whole.

1317
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,700
I really do think it kind of
belongs in the conversation with

1318
01:10:02,700 --> 01:10:05,500
the movie like Glory with a
movie like Braveheart.

1319
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,700
I think Brad I'm going to give
this movie an 8 out of 10 at

1320
01:10:08,700 --> 01:10:12,600
that hour and 15-minute Mark.
I was at like a seven and that

1321
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:16,200
was kind of generous honestly
and then the last 45 minutes

1322
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,200
happened and I was like, oh my
gosh, this man, Michael man

1323
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,700
knows how to end a film, that's
in the moment from the moment.

1324
01:10:22,700 --> 01:10:25,700
They are surrendering the
forward and start marching out

1325
01:10:25,700 --> 01:10:29,700
of the for ya from that moment.
You're in for one hell of a next

1326
01:10:29,700 --> 01:10:31,000
40 minutes.
Absolutely.

1327
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,600
And again, I, you know, I want
to talk real briefly about that

1328
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,700
very last scene because I
thought the movie was going to

1329
01:10:36,700 --> 01:10:40,100
end in a very conventional way.
And then they make that that

1330
01:10:40,100 --> 01:10:45,100
last kind of Ambush to get the
girls back and it ends,

1331
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,500
Tragically.
And then you have the Reflection

1332
01:10:47,500 --> 01:10:51,100
Point at the end of the movie,
with Hawkeye and his adoptive

1333
01:10:51,100 --> 01:10:54,800
father, and his, his father is
saying like, I Am The Last of

1334
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,500
the Mohicans.
And then they just shared this

1335
01:10:57,500 --> 01:11:04,200
very long knowing look where it
says and you are not like you're

1336
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,500
not The Last of the Mohicans
like you might be My adoptive

1337
01:11:07,500 --> 01:11:09,300
son.
But my son is dead.

1338
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:13,200
And I'm the last one in this
lineage and it really hammers

1339
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,900
home.
This idea that Hawk guy is a guy

1340
01:11:15,900 --> 01:11:19,500
that's caught between two worlds
and we'll never really feel like

1341
01:11:19,500 --> 01:11:23,900
he belongs in either of them and
it really deepened the movie and

1342
01:11:23,900 --> 01:11:26,600
added so much Nuance that hadn't
been there before.

1343
01:11:26,900 --> 01:11:30,100
I think that exchange alone kind
of bumped.

1344
01:11:30,100 --> 01:11:31,800
This movie up to an 8 for me
Brad.

1345
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,600
Yeah, I think all of that is
fair.

1346
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:38,600
I think for me I'm going to give
it a seven and a half out of

1347
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,900
ten.
There's just a lot of this movie

1348
01:11:41,900 --> 01:11:45,800
that didn't totally work for me
and for being Somebody who's

1349
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,000
kind of known for a lot of his
action scenes.

1350
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,200
I think the action scenes in
this movie, let me down a lot

1351
01:11:51,300 --> 01:11:53,900
and at least some of the bigger
set pieces.

1352
01:11:54,500 --> 01:11:57,700
I can't tell you how many times
I was watching this and you just

1353
01:11:57,700 --> 01:12:01,100
kind of have this big old shot
of the entire battle that

1354
01:12:01,100 --> 01:12:04,100
lingers a little too long, which
I think is another issue I have

1355
01:12:04,100 --> 01:12:09,700
with man man's action scenes,
but you just see like, you know,

1356
01:12:09,700 --> 01:12:12,700
actors just kind of standing
around waiting for somebody to

1357
01:12:12,700 --> 01:12:17,100
come attack them and and the
Choreography of the scenes is

1358
01:12:17,100 --> 01:12:20,200
not very impactful and then
there's moments where it is

1359
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,200
really impactful and, you know,
when he kills magua at the end

1360
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,300
of the movie, it's like brutal
and awesome.

1361
01:12:26,500 --> 01:12:28,400
So I don't want to see.
It doesn't do any of it.

1362
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,400
Good.
It just there's enough moments

1363
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:34,600
that for me.
I just felt like this was a fine

1364
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,100
movie.
All right.

1365
01:12:36,100 --> 01:12:38,400
Daniel, are you splitting?
The difference between us?

1366
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:39,900
Are you gonna raise it a little
bit here?

1367
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:46,800
No, it's a 10, ha ha, ha.
No, it's okay.

1368
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:50,000
You guys are sports guys.
So it's the question of like, do

1369
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,200
you how do you evaluate
someone's career?

1370
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:53,800
Do you evaluate the breadth of
their career?

1371
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:55,500
Do you evaluate who they were at
their best?

1372
01:12:55,600 --> 01:13:00,200
Mmm, and for me, you know, I can
understand watching lots of

1373
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,800
Mohicans and thinking, that it
doesn't grab you until the last

1374
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:06,500
40 minutes.
But the way, those last 40

1375
01:13:06,500 --> 01:13:08,700
minutes, grab you just erases
all sentence.

1376
01:13:08,700 --> 01:13:13,100
Yeah, I've got a few movies like
that where because I was going

1377
01:13:13,100 --> 01:13:15,000
to say, it sounds like you're
talking to yourself right now.

1378
01:13:15,100 --> 01:13:17,500
Because the whole podcast up to
now, you're like, yeah, it's

1379
01:13:17,500 --> 01:13:20,000
really just the last 40 minutes
and then you come in at the end

1380
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,500
and you're like yeah but the
last 40 minutes cover everything

1381
01:13:22,500 --> 01:13:25,100
else.
I definitely got a few movies

1382
01:13:25,100 --> 01:13:27,900
like that in my life, where the
ending is so good.

1383
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:31,300
That it elevates everything
around it.

1384
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,900
So yeah, man, I'm down for it.
Give it a 10, but don't get me

1385
01:13:34,900 --> 01:13:36,200
wrong.
I mean, there are stuff in the

1386
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:39,400
first hour and 15 minutes but I
still really like it.

1387
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,600
Just it's not like the last 40
minutes.

1388
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,000
Well Brad we've finished out
Michael, man.

1389
01:13:46,500 --> 01:13:48,500
We've done it.
I'd like to hear what you think.

1390
01:13:48,500 --> 01:13:51,600
Can you rank the three movies
that we did in terms of your

1391
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:55,500
preference heat collateral
Mohicans?

1392
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:59,200
Yeah, I think I'm in the same
spot collateral on the re-watch

1393
01:13:59,700 --> 01:14:04,300
was a bigger letdown for me than
I expected it to be because it

1394
01:14:04,300 --> 01:14:07,700
just tried to do what he did and
it did it more on the nose and

1395
01:14:07,700 --> 01:14:11,100
that really bothered me, he
definitely got bumped up in my

1396
01:14:11,100 --> 01:14:13,300
estimation like I never would
have thought of giving it.

1397
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:17,200
Nine before this watch through
and I think this movie Last of

1398
01:14:17,208 --> 01:14:20,000
the Mohicans might grow in my
estimation on re-watch.

1399
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,000
But you know, coming out of it
really fresh on my first watch

1400
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,200
through.
I think I'm in the same spot as

1401
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,900
you on ranking these, which is
probably hurting Daniel in the

1402
01:14:27,900 --> 01:14:30,300
heart right now.
He just gave it a 10 and you and

1403
01:14:30,300 --> 01:14:31,400
me are like yeah, it's the
worst.

1404
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,600
One of the three.
Well no it doesn't.

1405
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,200
It doesn't hurt me.
What it says to me is that you

1406
01:14:35,208 --> 01:14:40,200
guys haven't watched this movie
three dozen times like that for

1407
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:44,400
you over the years, exactly.
All right, so that has been The

1408
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,400
Last of the Mohicans Brad and I
are coming out to an average of

1409
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:51,000
a seven point seven five out of
ten but we'd like to know what

1410
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,100
you think.
So please reach out to us on our

1411
01:14:53,100 --> 01:14:57,500
social medias Instagram,
Twitter, Facebook, at film

1412
01:14:57,500 --> 01:15:00,500
whiskey or jump into the
conversation on our Discord.

1413
01:15:00,500 --> 01:15:03,500
We are on there every single
day, talking to all of you.

1414
01:15:03,500 --> 01:15:06,500
The people who love the film was
he podcast?

1415
01:15:06,700 --> 01:15:08,700
So if you want to join the
conversation, you can find a

1416
01:15:08,708 --> 01:15:10,800
link to our Discord.
At the end of every single one

1417
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:12,900
of our show notes.
Once again, we want to say thank

1418
01:15:12,900 --> 01:15:14,200
you to our friends.
Daniel's why?

1419
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,000
Oh, Daniel as much as you're
allowed to share, what do you

1420
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:18,100
have coming down the pike for
us?

1421
01:15:19,100 --> 01:15:22,900
Nothing definitely set in stone
yet or that I can talk about

1422
01:15:22,900 --> 01:15:26,300
yet, but hopefully maybe another
ringer piece about the Oscars in

1423
01:15:26,300 --> 01:15:30,700
the near future doing an
interview for a Movie Maker that

1424
01:15:30,700 --> 01:15:34,500
I can't.
That is the the former flame of

1425
01:15:34,500 --> 01:15:36,200
someone we have talked about on
this episode.

1426
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,800
Oh, okay.
That's it.

1427
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:40,100
All right, I love it.
All right.

1428
01:15:40,100 --> 01:15:42,700
Well then in that case, where
can we find you to follow you

1429
01:15:42,700 --> 01:15:46,500
when these things I'll drop.
I am at Third Man.

1430
01:15:46,500 --> 01:15:50,700
Movies on Twitter, first.
Initial last name on letter box

1431
01:15:50,700 --> 01:15:56,300
which is d j0.
Y aux and I have an Instagram

1432
01:15:56,300 --> 01:15:59,100
for my newsletter.
Which is your the good things.

1433
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,300
I love it.
All right.

1434
01:16:01,300 --> 01:16:04,800
Well once again, thanks to
Daniel Brad this wraps up season

1435
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,100
6 for us but we're not quite
done yet.

1436
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:11,600
We get to put all 32 movies from
season six into a Madness style

1437
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,000
bracket and eliminate the Them
one by one.

1438
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,900
Until only one film can be.
Crowned, the season six

1439
01:16:16,900 --> 01:16:20,300
Champion, our bracket episodes
will be premiering next week.

1440
01:16:20,300 --> 01:16:23,300
You can follow along with us on
our Instagram page.

1441
01:16:23,300 --> 01:16:26,400
You can download your own
bracket and see how closely we

1442
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:30,700
resemble yours.
As always be wary of Brad G when

1443
01:16:30,700 --> 01:16:33,900
he flips the coin of Destiny
when we are at an impasse

1444
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,300
because that dude is a known
cheater.

1445
01:16:37,300 --> 01:16:41,700
So I don't mess around when it
comes to Faith I can't wait for

1446
01:16:41,700 --> 01:16:44,300
our bracket episodes man.
It's my favorite time of every

1447
01:16:44,300 --> 01:16:47,400
single season.
Yeah, I'm super excited to get

1448
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:49,100
into it.
This is this has been a really

1449
01:16:49,100 --> 01:16:51,900
fascinating season, dude.
I think that the director

1450
01:16:52,300 --> 01:16:55,200
miniseries idea has been a lot
more fun than I thought it would

1451
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:56,200
be.
Yeah, me too.

1452
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,100
And I have no idea.
This is 32 movie bracket on

1453
01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:00,000
Twitter.
I want to see this.

1454
01:17:00,100 --> 01:17:01,800
Oh absolutely.
I will tag you in it.

1455
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,400
Like actually, I'll just make
your name, one of the entries in

1456
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,000
the bracket.
We'll see how far you go.

1457
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:10,200
All right, so join us next week,
for our bracket episodes.

1458
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:14,000
But until then, I'm Bob book,
I'm Reggie and we'll see you

1459
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:14,600
next time.