Shaun of the Dead / The Wiseman Bourbon

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In 2004 director, Edgar Wright,
and star Simon Pegg.

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Gave the role of wonderfully
quirky and dark rom-com about

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the end of the world in 2022.
Kentucky, owl gives us an

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accessible expression.
The film is Shaun of the Dead.

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The whiskey is the wisemen
bourbon and we'll review them

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both.
This is the Freeland whiskey

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podcast.
Welcome to the film and whiskey

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podcast, where each week, we
review a classic movie and a

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glass of whiskey.
I'm Bob book, I'm Brad G.

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And this week we are starting a
mini series of films by the

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writer and director Edgar
Wright, starting with his two.

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Thousand four hit comedy Shaun
of the Dead, Brad.

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It feels really nice to steer
out of Martin Scorsese territory

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and into Edgar Wright territory
man.

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I'm I am so glad that we did
Silence because I said think

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that movie needs more, just just
run and people need to hear

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about it more often but Shaun of
the Dead is like just a little

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bit different of a movie.
You know, not the least of which

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is that it's 90 minutes.
It's long dude.

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One got good kid, we'd film
directors.

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Yes, let's sing the Praises of
the short movie.

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Yes, I'm their man.
You know, like, when I went to

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put this movie on, and I've seen
it before but I didn't I didn't

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remember that.
It was as short as it is.

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And I saw that with credits,
it's like 97 minutes.

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And I'm like, man, I don't, I
don't know how they're going to

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fit all these things.
I remember into an hour and a

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half and I got to say, first of
all, what an efficient and

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economical use.
Of the script and the runtime

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that this movie needed to have.
But also if they stretch this

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out to two hours, it would be
too much movie.

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Like, yes, I got to be honest,
man.

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They hit every note perfectly
when it comes to the Rhythm and

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the pacing of this film.
I think that if I had to spoil

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some of my thoughts on Edgar
Wright as a director, I just

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think the pacing of his movies
is spectacular.

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He just has an ability.
To keep things flowing in the

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right direction of where he
wants things to go and it never

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feels rushed but it always
feels.

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I don't know, man.
There's just a flow to it that I

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love.
I think we should start today's

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episode by trying to place this
movie in the historical context

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as movie comes out.
In 2004, which blows my mind,

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because I remember this movie
coming out, I remember seeing it

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on cable for years and years
after its release.

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It was on Comedy Central.
All Time and, you know, it's

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been almost 20 years now.
It's movies, 18 years old.

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And in a lot of ways, it is a
relic of the mid-2000s, because

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it's doing things that I think
it was kind of like the

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Forerunner to, but it has that
like, How I Met Your Mother

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whoosh sound effect when they're
panning and between scenes, you

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know, Edgar Wright loves to do
that kind of whiplash effect

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throughout the movie.
And so it's really cool to see

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that.
This moofy feels very much of

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the moment that it was made but
that's also because it helped

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make that moment, you know.
Does that make sense?

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Yeah 100%.
I think that's one of the

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reasons this movie ages so well
is because it doesn't rely on it

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in the way that future projects
would like How I Met Your

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Mother.
I think that a lot of times

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Sometimes there's certain like,
you know, techniques and tropes

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that occur in cinema and, you
know, the person who starts it

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as is known because they started
it and then other people perfect

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it.
But other times, I think the

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opposite happens where the first
person to do, it keeps it the

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most streamlined, and other
people kind of add on to it and

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that like almost like ruins at a
little bit.

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Honestly, Bob it, are you okay?
If I get like wildly Ready for a

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second.
Oh, please do it reminds me of

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in like our undergrad and grad
classes, when we would talk

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about biblical texts and how if
you had a text in order to date,

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like, when this text was found,
you know, let's say they found a

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scrap of paper and had the Book
of John written on it in order

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to figure out which text it was
the the scholars would basically

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look and be like, alright, is
this like really fancy Greek or

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Is it really short and like
pared down?

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And if it's really short and
pared-down, that's closer to the

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original text, right?
Yeah.

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And I feel like that you can
kind of see the same thing in

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cinema that people don't just do
the same Trope.

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They add on their own little
Flair to it.

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They had on there a little bit
to it and man was shot of the

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Dead.
You just have a classic of

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mid-2000 Cinema that has zero
fat on it.

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Absolutely.
No fat on it and it manages to

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act as this giant functioning
metaphor in.

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Again, it's such an economical
movie.

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Like they could have really
drugged out what they were

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trying to say.
And if this was an American

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Comedy of that time, if this was
a Judd Apatow movie, this would

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be 2 hours and 25 minutes long
and it would be way too long and

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we'd be talking about how they
could have cut an hour out of

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it.
And this is just, it's almost

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perfect writing, it's almost
perfect directing and pacing.

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I cannot wait to jump into it
with Brad.

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But go ahead before we get to
Brad explains, you don't have

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just literally realized this is
the British comedic version of

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Fight Club.
It kind of is like to even if

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it's not raw, same Central
metaphor yeah the entire movie

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is about how the average British
citizen is a zombie in their

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life and they need to wake up
and take charge of their lives.

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That's not at all.
What I was going for, but that's

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okay.
We'll talk about that in just a

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minute.
Listen before we jump into our

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favorite segment, which is
called Brad explains.

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Brad explains.
This is the part of the podcast,

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where Brad breaks down the movie
that he has just seen often for

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the first time.
This was not your first time

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seeing this film, correct.
Most definitely not awesome.

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The Bob, I think that this film
was actually on my list for

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season 5 and like as we kind of
went over the list together, you

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were like man shot of the Deads
on my like long-term list as

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well.
Let's like it's gonna get on the

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podcast.
Let's just wait for it.

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So this is definitely a movie
that I was wildly excited for.

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All right, well then the
pressure is on man, we've put 60

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seconds on the clock.
Can you break down the plot of

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Shaun, of the Dead?
Shaun of the Dead is about a 29

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year, old British, citizen named
Sean, who is completely aimless

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in his personal life.
He has a layabout deadbeat best

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Friend who holds him back in
life and he has a dead-end job.

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And the only thing going for
him, is his girlfriend Liz, who

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breaks up with him at the start
of the movie because he kind of

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sucks.
And he's holding her back, and

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then zombies.
And in the midst of a zombie

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apocalypse, he finds himself in
a place of control and

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authority, and taking charge and
doing something cool with his

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life.
And they drink at a bar called

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The Winchester.
And I think that's important to

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know that it is.
All right?

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There's Brad explains.
I think that's it, man.

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I do love it when Brad explains
doesn't necessarily give away

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every twist and turn of the
story, like they're still at

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this point of the podcast, a
little bit of mystery.

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So I guess, if you haven't seen
Shaun of the Dead, you still

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have a chance to go, watch it
and then, come back and finish

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this episode.
Because as we go on, we will be

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getting into spoiler filled
territory.

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Yes.
Brad.

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Where do you want to start?
Today because I if I dictate

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where we're going to go, I have
a feeling I won't be able to

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avoid talking about the kind of
deeper themes of the movie for

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very long because on its
surface, like, this is a very

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surface level movie.
It's a comedy, you know, it's

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about a down-on-his-luck guy but
a ne'er-do-well kind of guy.

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Hmm.
But there's a lot more going on

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than that.
So I'm almost like, please take

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us in a different direction so
that I don't give up all the

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goods away too quickly.
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I mean, let's let's start by
talking about the performances

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and then I think it'd be worth
while to talk about Edgar

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Wright.
And, you know, we didn't really

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talk with Scorsese or Spielberg
about like, I don't know, like

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ticks that they have as a
director, you know what I mean?

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Like, certain styles that they
always use in their movies and I

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think that's because they don't
really need those well, and

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they're both, well, documented
in the annals of And whiskey at

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this point two eggs.
Yeah, and that's the other

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thing.
Like we've talked about it

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enough at this point.
Whereas like I think it'd be

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interesting to talk about Edgar
Wright because he is a really

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interesting director.
So, yeah, let's jump into

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performances first.
Well, what would jump into the

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direction?
The directing first, I feel like

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you did such a good job of
setting that up.

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Thanks, thanks Bob, let's talk
about Edgar Wright.

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I think maybe it's fortuitous
that he came on the heels of

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Scorsese here because even
though his his kind of manic

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Style is much more lighthearted.
And the way he whips between

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scenes is not exactly the same
as Scorsese in 2004.

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If you were looking for somebody
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were probably only a few
directors who directed with that

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kind of manic energy.
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the British director Danny
Boyle, but the other one would

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be Scorsese.
Then I, it's really kind of

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obvious when you watch this
movie having just come off of

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Taxi Driver Raging Bull and you
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silence, but you can see that
kind of kinetic energy carry

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over into a new generation with
Edgar Wright.

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Yeah, the way he uses the
characters and how they are

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always moving like Simon Pegg
almost never stops moving in

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this movie and I love it like,
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The One Moment he sits down to
play video games with his, you

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know, deadbeat best friend, Ed,
he immediately goes, you've got

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work and he turns off the
controller.

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And gets up and goes to work.
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And like you have a sense that
that Edgar Wright is just

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obsessed with movement and I
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Especially in the third film.
We talked about baby driver but

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the way that they move in this
movie is just beautiful.

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I think that the 1er that he
does, with Simon Pegg, walking

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to the store and back.
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Is brilliant.
It doesn't belong in like, what

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should be an average?
I'm calm of the mid 2000's and

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yet, there it is, like it almost
feels like children of, man, but

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a comedy.
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Like, and you're right, it is
really brilliant, because the

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way they set it up, in the way,
they pay it off, and that's

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something that I think.
Can I keep coming back to when

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we get into the script,
everything has a payoff and it

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doesn't have a payoff in the way
that we talked about with Back

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to the Future where it's like a
really tacky day off.

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But you see it with those two
shots on successive days, he

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walks to the store and You see
life bustling in the background

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and then the next day, he walks
to the store with a hangover and

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the zombie apocalypse has
started, he doesn't even notice

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it.
But as the viewer it, you're

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watching this camera track in
the exact same way and it is,

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it's such a great shot.
Yeah.

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That the beautiful thing is that
the way he shoots those shots

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back to back rewards multiple
viewings of the movie, right?

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Like this isn't a movie that you
watch Once and you're like, oh,

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that's a great movie.
I'll never watch together.

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Like, as soon as you watch it
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little things in the background.
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callbacks to things that
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And I think, right?
Just doesn't masterful job that

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you know in one you see a guy
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little lawn in the background
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lying dead on the ground.
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blinked.
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Simon Pegg doesn't even come
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just brilliant.
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part Scorsese, he's also part
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sense that his awareness of the
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informs the way this movie is
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effects on purpose to like, I
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returns but you know, it's very
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of the movie you as an audience
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apocalypse is going to come.
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point out that in 2004, we
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zombie movies, and zombie TV and
The Walking Dead and all of its

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random spin-off stuff hadn't
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The Forefront of bringing the
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mainstream culture, but because
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familiar with the tropes of a
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Every time, someone kind of
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off camera, they do that sort of
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where you think, like, this is
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zombie, and then it's not and
they do that fake out like eight

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stupid, but I love that they
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Awareness into the movie like
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that they place to other, you
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zombie movies is wild.
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do.
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doing research, not for the
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Canada's favorite segments to
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a part where he's walking into
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zombie day and there's a
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The, the owner of the store is
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in Hindi and essentially,
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as dead rise from their graves.
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detail that they put into this
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Again, I think I'm just stunned
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mid-2000s comedy has just so
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Well, and one thing that I
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guess we're just getting into
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the place today and I'm cool
with it is that they never

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explain the origin of it and
they offer like little tidbits

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of what it could have been.
But as Sean is walking into that

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store.
The first time, you hear a radio

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report going on that At an
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re-entered orbit and crashed
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newspapers.
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GMO produce and the other one is
talking about some other

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calamitous thing.
And so, you never find out the

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origin of this whole Zombie
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to that gag because someone on
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would have That the thing that
caused it was, and right, then

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Sean turns the channel.
So, I love that they are aware

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of the kind of MacGuffin and
they don't, they don't care, you

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know what I mean?
Like, it doesn't matter what

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caused it, but they also, I'm
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the film, because I think one of
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is the commentary on society.
And they basically said like,

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yeah, let's be really honest.
If zombies came about, they

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wouldn't destroy us at this
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Like we have guns and we'd be
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apocalypse.
And what would we do with

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zombies?
Then, you know somebody would

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not let us kill them because you
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So we're going to turn him into
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Like, tell me that that is not
exactly what would happen, not

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just in 2004, but in 2022 like
like that's likes would be

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raking it in with all the
different reality shows.

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Yeah, dude.
Be like, real life squid game,

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right happening with zombies.
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Well, let's finally get into
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performances.
I want to talk about, Simon

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Pegg, who co-wrote the movie.
And this is the first in, what

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becomes kind of an unofficial
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the film and Edgar Wright.
And I still think this is the

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best of the three.
And it's primarily because the

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performances are so good.
I'm trying to hold off on

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talking about what this movie is
really about.

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But watching Simon Pegg.
You know, come of age in this

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movie like grow up a little bit
and experience emotion and

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offer, forgiveness and cut
people out of his life who

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should be cut out of his life
and you know, make difficult

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decisions.
It's just bread a performance.

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This good has no business being
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there's so much gravitas and
emotion in some of these scenes.

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And it's only because Simon Pegg
is such a good and committed

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actor, dude, can we just like,
like Men on one scene really

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quick.
I know exactly what scene is

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going to be go for it, Bill
freaking night, he's so good.

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He's so good in everything.
It's so good at everything, and

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they're sitting in the back of
that freaking car.

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And he's bleeding out by the
neck.

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And he's crammed up with with
Simon Pegg.

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And you know, even just the
scripting decision to pick

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everybody up to shove him in the
car and then use that as the

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moment because the camera has to
be right up in Their face

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because that's how they feel is
characters in the moment like

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like just beautiful
cinematography and like

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scripting choices.
But on top of all that you just

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have Bill Nighy.
Who, at this point, might be the

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best dad in the history of all
movies.

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We've watched in the film and
whiskey podcast.

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He definitely wins the award for
dad who makes us cry.

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Yes easily.
He and he's just like telling

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him, you know, and Simon Pegg.
Sean is his stepson and he's

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Just baring his soul to him like
about how hard it was, to be a

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stepdad and how he really loved
him.

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And he saw how hard it was on
Sean that his real dad had died

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and he, you know, he may be
thought that he could be

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something of a role model for
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And and I'm just like and this
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Bob, this is like 45 minutes in
and I'm like weeping, it's so

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good.
So good man.

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As like, Simon Pegg is Sitting
there just weeping as he's like,

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receiving validation and, like,
healing from childhood wounding.

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I forget, love it, man.
So, the rest of the characters

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in this movie, kind of orbit in
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And as it should be, this is a
study of Sean and his growing up

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process.
And so even like you know

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ostensibly this the second lead
Ed played by Nick Frost.

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He's important to the movie but
I almost feel like I don't I

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want to spend as much time
talking about his performance

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because that's ultimately not
what the movies about.

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Do you know what I mean?
Oh yeah, a hundred percent.

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I think that Ed has a really
great Arc as a character because

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he definitely starts off as
just.

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I mean, they write him as an
orangutan, yeah.

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But you know what I mean?
Like, they write him to be the

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the Jag weed ridiculous friend
who's just the worst, but by the

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end of the film, somehow they
transform him into What Shawn

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season him, which is a loyal,
loving friend.

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And he grows in his own way and
I just, I think they kill it

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with him and I think Frost gives
great performance.

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But his performance is great
because of Sean's belief in him

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and the way Simon Pegg interacts
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So I'm with you man, like, like
Simon Pegg rules this movie he

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is to Shaun of the Dead, what?
Tom Cruise is to Mission

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Impossible.
There you go.

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All right, Brad.
We go to break.

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Let's kind of round out talking
about the cast, and we can just

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give very brief thoughts.
I really do think pretty much

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everybody in this movie is
excellent.

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I think Kate Ashfield is great
as his girlfriend Liz.

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If there's a couple people, I
would like to call out.

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It's mostly because people were
in this movie before they became

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famous and then they became
famous and it's like, oh, it's

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that guy, you know, one of them
being their flatmate, Pete

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played by Peter serafinowicz,
who has become a pretty, you

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know, pretty popular.
British comedian.

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You've probably seen him if
You're an American on things

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like Parks and Rec and he's been
in a ton of movies at this

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point.
One person that I noticed Brad

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was the kid who worked in the
store with him.

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I think his name is null is
played by Rafe spall who we've

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had in a couple movies on the
podcast.

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Now Chief among them, he played
the journalist in Life of Pi a

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few years after this and you see
him here and he's kind of like

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you know, a doughy teenager and
he doesn't look hardly anything

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like what he looks like now.
So it was really cool to see

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These people who have made
appearances Elsewhere on the

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show when they were much younger
and less famous Bob, I, you

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know, how little I remember from
Life, of Pi border from you said

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the reporter from Life of Pi and
I was like, there's a reporter

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and I think I said Life of Pi
and Brad was like was he the

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tiger?
Did he?

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Did he play Richard Parker?
Yes.

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Oh man, I don't know why that
movie just hasn't stuck for me.

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It should to hasn't I think I
think Dylan Moran who plays

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David is like the perfect bad
guy for the movie.

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Like he kind of feels like a
c-list, Alan Rickman a little

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bit and it's perfect like it
fits so well for the movie.

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You know what's really funny is
when he came on screen I was

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like I thought that he was Peter
serafinowicz and I didn't

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realize that guy that Peter
serafinowicz was in the movie.

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So I was like oh Man, he looks
kind of different here, but I

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couldn't think of his name
because he has a hard name to

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remember, and I was like, what's
that guy's name?

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I remember seeing him in parks
and rec and and then I looked it

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up and I was like, Dylan Moran,
who's that?

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And then right?
Then serafinowicz comes on

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screen.
And I was like, this is screwing

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with my mind.
I don't, I don't like it.

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These guys look a lot alike and
it bothers me.

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I am not going to lie, Bob, I
think they look literally

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nothing alike.
Honestly, Dylan Moran, looks

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like Colin Firth in.
Bourne Identity.

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It had that Colin fun.
See in The Bourne Identity.

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Is it isn't it?
Colin Firth the he plays the

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Assassin.
Oh, that's right.

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Let's go live Owen dude.
Sorry Clive Owen, you know he

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looks like Clive Owen know you
know who he looks like he

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doesn't look like serafinowicz.
He looks like if you gave the

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guy from Pride and Prejudice a
different haircut and put

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glasses on him.
That's who he looks like 100%.

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Yeah, I'm with you there.
What's his name?

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Matthew McPhee McFadden.
Macfadyen.

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Something like that.
McConaughey McConaughey?

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That's the guy.
Yeah.

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So, as you can tell, the cast is
pretty much dominated by.

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Simon Pegg attack.
Yeah, I will say if I would

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never have guessed known this
most Americans wouldn't, but

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when the the the group, you
know, how there's the other

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group that they run into led by
Yvonne, who seems to be like an

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old flame, Or an old friend of
Simon of Sean.

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00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,500
Yes.
So every single person in there

445
00:25:23,700 --> 00:25:28,800
that is like the the look-alike
for the people in Sean's, right?

446
00:25:29,300 --> 00:25:32,500
They were all in British
comedies together.

447
00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:35,200
Oh nice.
Like Martin Freeman.

448
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,800
So like yeah.
So like Martin Freeman and Liz's

449
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,000
friend who's dating Matthew
McFadden?

450
00:25:43,300 --> 00:25:47,200
Look alike, she and Martin
Freeman.

451
00:25:47,300 --> 00:25:50,400
Were in the office together.
She was Pam on the British

452
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:51,100
author.
Nice.

453
00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:54,000
Okay.
And Simon Pegg and whoever plays

454
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,700
Yvonne were in a show called
spaced out?

455
00:25:57,700 --> 00:25:59,500
I think yep.
We're just like a British

456
00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:01,700
British TV show.
They were like the leads on that

457
00:26:01,700 --> 00:26:04,000
together.
Literally, every single one of

458
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,100
them was a British comedic pair
of some sort, so it was like,

459
00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:11,300
the equivalent of the Anchorman,
like, Alleyway fight.

460
00:26:11,500 --> 00:26:13,900
Yes, got it.
Yeah, yeah literally.

461
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,800
Well, that's really cool.
Shout out to all of Our British

462
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,900
listeners, you guys knew that
immediately and it took us some

463
00:26:20,900 --> 00:26:24,800
digging to figure that out.
It sure did Bob, hey, Brad, what

464
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,000
do you say?
We press pause here because I do

465
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,000
want to get into talking about,
you know, if we can call them

466
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,900
deeper themes, the deeper themes
of this movie, but I think we

467
00:26:32,900 --> 00:26:36,100
need a little bit of a social
lubricant here.

468
00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:40,400
Before we get there, this is for
you.

469
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,300
Patrons Lube me up daddy.
There it is.

470
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,500
Let's get to it.
Bob Bob.

471
00:26:52,900 --> 00:26:56,200
Alright, today we are checking
out the wisemen bourbon.

472
00:26:56,500 --> 00:27:00,300
Now, first of all, before I say
anything else about this product

473
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:05,900
on the bottle, they kind of
accentuate the m in Wiseman, so

474
00:27:05,900 --> 00:27:09,800
that it makes it seem like it
should be the wise man, but it's

475
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,400
one word, so then you got to
pronounce it Wiseman.

476
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,000
So I really have no idea what
I'm saying is is basically what

477
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,600
I'm getting at Brad.
I don't know if it's the wise.

478
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,000
Man, or the wise men, but
everything I've seen calls it.

479
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,200
One word Wiseman.
This mean, I don't really care

480
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,700
about that.
Are the three of them know?

481
00:27:26,700 --> 00:27:29,600
They actually, they have their,
there's a bourbon and awry.

482
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,000
We need a movement of gold,
frankincense and myrrh.

483
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,300
We need Homer flavored one.
Come on people.

484
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,900
So this is from Kentucky owl,
which is now owned by the Stoli

485
00:27:39,900 --> 00:27:44,800
group about 23 years ago, they
sold Kentucky owl for, I don't

486
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,200
know what it is, you know,
hundreds of millions of dollars.

487
00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:49,800
They Building an out.
Now they're going to basically

488
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,000
have a gigantic tourism
destination at Kentucky.

489
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,100
Owl friend of show.
David Mandel has come on as CEO

490
00:27:57,100 --> 00:28:00,400
of Kentucky owl and he is like
leading the charge on that build

491
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,600
out and in the meantime you know
Kentucky owl is a super premium

492
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,400
whiskey that we have never had
on the show because it costs a

493
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,600
ton of money and is hard to
find.

494
00:28:09,900 --> 00:28:12,200
And so Kentucky owl was like
listen if we're going to be a

495
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,900
tourism destination we have to
have you know something that's a

496
00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:17,600
least kind of accessible to
people.

497
00:28:17,900 --> 00:28:20,300
And so, they've put out this
product called the wise men.

498
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,500
So, this product is a blend of
different kinds of bourbon, it's

499
00:28:24,500 --> 00:28:27,800
a blend of four year, five and a
half year, and eight and a half

500
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,700
year Bourbons.
It's diluted down to 90.8 proof.

501
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,300
Fun fact.
As we said, our friend, David

502
00:28:34,300 --> 00:28:36,700
Mandel is now leading the charge
at Kentucky owl.

503
00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:39,000
He came from Bardstown bourbon
company.

504
00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:44,100
Part of what is in this Mash,
bill is a blend of Bourbons that

505
00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:47,600
Kentucky owl has contract
distilled for them at Bardstown.

506
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,600
Ben company so it's got their
four-year-old wheat and high Rye

507
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,000
Bourbons Blended in here.
Okay, I'm pretty excited to try

508
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,700
this Brad.
I mean, even that only 90 proof.

509
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,600
I think this has a really,
really interesting knows.

510
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,000
I'm going to be drinking it
live.

511
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,800
I know that you have already
taken notes so while I give it a

512
00:29:04,808 --> 00:29:07,100
nosing, why don't you tell us
what you think of the nose?

513
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,900
Yeah as I got into the nose it
really just feels like a really

514
00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:16,900
nice classic bourbon with like a
little bit of peanut and cherry

515
00:29:16,900 --> 00:29:18,100
on top of that.
That.

516
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,300
But yeah, I got caramel I got
vanilla, there's bits of Oak and

517
00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:24,700
then like I said a little bit of
peanut and cherry on top.

518
00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:29,600
It's not super deep.
The depth isn't there?

519
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,200
So I'm gonna give it a seven and
a half, it's intriguing.

520
00:29:32,300 --> 00:29:35,600
Yeah, I'm there to like if we
really wanted to get granular

521
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,400
with our scores, this is like a
7.2 on the nose.

522
00:29:39,700 --> 00:29:43,500
Like it's a pretty good, it's
got some very classic bourbon

523
00:29:43,500 --> 00:29:45,000
notes.
As you said, I can tell that

524
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,800
there is a weeded bourbon in
here somewhere.

525
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,000
It has that.
With peanutty and then also kind

526
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,900
of root beer Sarsaparilla thing
underneath that a little bit

527
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:59,000
there's just a hint of
fruitiness on this that it kind

528
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,400
of accentuates.
All that kind of dark peanut

529
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,400
butter caramel e-notes.
I can't put my finger on what it

530
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,400
is and maybe a little bit of
Pineapple but there's definitely

531
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,500
a bright fresh summery fruit on
top of this again.

532
00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:13,300
You're right.
It's pretty subtle.

533
00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:16,700
And there's not a ton going on
here so I'll also give it a

534
00:30:16,700 --> 00:30:18,100
seven and a half on the The
nose.

535
00:30:18,700 --> 00:30:22,900
Yeah and then I got the taste
and Bob, I mean, I had a full

536
00:30:22,900 --> 00:30:29,000
like two ounces of this and like
I guess I'll say this, I used to

537
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:34,300
have this recipe for is like a
Pad Thai recipe, that I make,

538
00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:37,000
and it's really, really good.
But at this point I just kind of

539
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,300
throw whatever I want in there
and like the the sauce stays the

540
00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:43,500
same, but everything else can
kind of change and I'll always

541
00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:46,000
just Hayley will ask me what I
made for dinner tonight.

542
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,200
And I'll be like, oh, generic
Asian dish.

543
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,000
Number 17 like you know and I
would say a different number

544
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,100
2354 like you know it's just
whatever, whatever it is.

545
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,500
This is generic.
Bourbon number 17 Bob.

546
00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:04,500
Yep nothing really is standing
out for me like I like in the

547
00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:07,000
entire experience I tried to
give it like 10 minutes.

548
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,900
I drink like half of my glass.
I gave it 10 minutes.

549
00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:12,700
I came back to it was like, man,
am I missing something?

550
00:31:14,300 --> 00:31:17,600
This is going to sound bad.
I, I don't even know if I could

551
00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:20,000
Could give any specific notes.
Yeah.

552
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,600
Like it's not bad.
It's sweet.

553
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,500
And it has some flavor to it,
but I don't know if it's okey or

554
00:31:26,500 --> 00:31:30,000
yeah, buttery or this really
doesn't this really doesn't

555
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,200
present itself at all until like
the mid palate.

556
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,400
The front palate is sugar water
and then at the Midway point you

557
00:31:37,408 --> 00:31:39,900
start to notice like, oh, this
has some alcohol in it and it's

558
00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:43,600
a little bit tingly and then you
go to swallow and on the back of

559
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,400
your palate is just some very
basic Oak characteristics.

560
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,200
And in a little bit of that,
like brown sugar, but there's

561
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,000
really not much going on here,
and it's very thin on the

562
00:31:56,008 --> 00:31:58,600
mouthfeel.
And for a major portion of the

563
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,000
tasting experience, it really
does drink like water and then

564
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,400
it goes kind of bitter from the
oak on the end.

565
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,200
So, you know, unfortunately
there's not a lot on this.

566
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,300
That is a positive drinking
experience.

567
00:32:11,300 --> 00:32:13,200
At least from the point of view
of the palate.

568
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:18,000
Brad, I think I'm only going to
give this like Five and a half

569
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,400
on the taste.
I'm given an A5.

570
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,200
Yeah.
On the tastes like, and I'll say

571
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,800
this.
It's not bad.

572
00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:30,300
No, like, it's not a bad tasting
whiskey, but it's just

573
00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:34,600
generically sweet.
And I couldn't put my finger on

574
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,000
any specific tasting notes.
When I got to the Finish, I got

575
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,000
a little bit of that Cherry Cola
finish that, you know, probably

576
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,700
from the wheat, whiskey that's
mixed in there and it's got some

577
00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:47,500
nice, okay.
It's going on that.

578
00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:51,100
Get a little bitter at the end.
I'm okay with the finish.

579
00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:54,800
I'll give it a 7 out of 10
there, but I don't know about

580
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,500
what would your thinnest score
be?

581
00:32:56,500 --> 00:32:59,900
I think this is one of those
areas where knowing the price of

582
00:32:59,900 --> 00:33:05,100
this is going to affect my
objective score, but I will also

583
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:07,000
say it this way.
If you had put this in front of

584
00:33:07,008 --> 00:33:09,100
me, blind and asked me to taste
it.

585
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,700
And then tell you what, I think
it costs.

586
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,700
I would say that this costs
between 20 and 24 dollars for a

587
00:33:15,708 --> 00:33:19,200
bottle of this.
Is it is, it is very thin that

588
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:24,400
is very mild that is not a
negative thing necessarily, but

589
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,000
then when you start to factor in
how much it actually costs which

590
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,100
we'll get into it.
Use it starts to kind of take

591
00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:33,300
your opinion of it because you
start to think well there should

592
00:33:33,300 --> 00:33:38,000
be more going on here at this
price point and so when it comes

593
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,400
to the Finish there's just not
much there.

594
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,600
You're right.
There's a hint of Cherry Cola,

595
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,300
there's quite a bit of Oak and
there's a nice warm.

596
00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:50,600
Sensation on the way down but
that's kind of just par for the

597
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,700
course with a weeded Bourbon.
And so once again I think I'll

598
00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:57,200
just give it a six out of ten on
the Finish.

599
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,500
Yeah and that brings me to
balance.

600
00:33:59,900 --> 00:34:03,300
I'm not going to knock it.
It's not terrible but I'll give

601
00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:07,900
it a 5 out of 10 on balance.
It's and it's not an interesting

602
00:34:07,900 --> 00:34:10,400
journey and I think that's the
worst thing.

603
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,500
I probably could say about it.
Where were you at on balance?

604
00:34:14,699 --> 00:34:16,300
I'm gonna give it a six and a
half on.

605
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:18,600
Balance, like it's a
well-balanced whiskey.

606
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,100
Again, this is like a fantastic
23 dollar bottle of whiskey.

607
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,500
The problem is that it's not a
23 dollar bottle of whiskey.

608
00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:29,800
So, like, you know, the balance
is not off and it's not awful

609
00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:32,100
and it's a six and a half.
Yeah.

610
00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:35,400
When it comes to Value, that's
where things get a little wonky,

611
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,199
Brad.
I have not actually looked up to

612
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:39,199
see if this is sold in the state
of Ohio.

613
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:42,100
Did you find it in the database?
It sure is.

614
00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:48,400
It is $49.99 all So yeah, we're
talking about a 50 dollar bottle

615
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,400
of whiskey here.
Look, I know that this is a

616
00:34:50,408 --> 00:34:53,500
blend of at least four different
kinds of Whiskey from what I'm

617
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:55,800
seeing and that some of it is
eight and a half years old.

618
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,000
So if this was a majority eight
and a half years old, I would

619
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,700
say, okay, I understand the
Forty Nine dollar price tag.

620
00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:06,500
There's a lot of you know lost
to the angels at eight and a

621
00:35:06,500 --> 00:35:11,400
half years old but I don't know
how much of each is Blended into

622
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,900
this and even if it was it's
been diluted down enough that

623
00:35:14,900 --> 00:35:17,500
there's just not a lot of Actor
to this thing.

624
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,700
I can't get down with the 50
dollar price tag, Brad.

625
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,200
And I'm, I'm only going to give
this like It's going to be

626
00:35:24,207 --> 00:35:25,800
really low.
And I feel bad saying this

627
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,600
because I like David Mandel a
lot, but I'm gonna give it a

628
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,800
three and a half on value.
Yeah, I'm being more harsh than

629
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,300
you Bob.
I'm gonna give it a 2 out of 10

630
00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:38,800
on value that.
I mean, the, this is, if this

631
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,100
was a seventeen dollar bottle of
whiskey, I think it'd be like a

632
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:46,900
9 out of 10 on value, like, like
it's a really impressive

633
00:35:46,900 --> 00:35:52,000
whiskey, at $17, at $24, it's
like a seven and a half, it's a

634
00:35:52,008 --> 00:35:53,600
solid value.
That's about About right where

635
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,700
it should be at Double that,
it's a two out of ten.

636
00:35:57,700 --> 00:35:59,900
Bob.
Yeah, I'm Brad.

637
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,100
I feel bad saying this and we've
tried both expressions of it

638
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:07,400
now, but I would say for sure, I
would not recommend picking this

639
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,300
up.
I mean, I might recommend trying

640
00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:12,500
it at the bar if you are
getting, if you're kind of like

641
00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:16,400
new to Bourbon and you're trying
to find your favorite thing at a

642
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,500
low proof point.
But even then, this is going to

643
00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:22,300
cost you probably ten to twelve
dollars for a poor of this at

644
00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:25,000
the bar.
So it's not the cheapest thing

645
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,000
that you can find at this price
point and it's also not the best

646
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,600
thing you can find.
At this price point.

647
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:33,900
Brad, I'm only coming out to a
29 out of 50.

648
00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:38,200
Yeah, I mean, before we factored
in value, I was at a twenty four

649
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,600
point five out of 50.
So like, you know, if you had an

650
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,800
8 out of 10 on value that that
be a decent score would be in

651
00:36:44,808 --> 00:36:48,400
the 30s.
But as it is, I'm going to 26.5

652
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,600
out of 50 Bob.
That's bringing us out to a

653
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,900
55.5.
Out of 100 or a twenty.

654
00:36:54,900 --> 00:36:57,300
Seven point seven.
Five out of 50.

655
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,000
Brad, I'm not going to recommend
this one.

656
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,900
Yeah, I'm not either Bob, which
is unfortunate.

657
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,100
Yeah.
Now listen, I've heard fantastic

658
00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:07,400
things about Kentucky, owl.
If you know, if someone would

659
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,000
like to send us some samples of
Kentucky owl, I would be happy

660
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,500
to have that on the show, but
when it comes to this new

661
00:37:12,500 --> 00:37:16,500
expression, the wise men, I, my
recommendation is to pass, you'd

662
00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:18,400
be wise to spend your money.
Elsewhere.

663
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,200
Bob.
All right, Brad.

664
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,100
Let's get back into talking
about Shaun of the Dead.

665
00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:22,900
What do you say?
Aye.

666
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,300
Ready, man.
Let's do it.

667
00:37:28,300 --> 00:37:33,300
All right, everybody, that was
Wise Wise Men was ma'am Wiseman.

668
00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:36,500
What bourbon whiskey?
That we were a little

669
00:37:36,500 --> 00:37:38,500
disappointed with and we'll just
leave it at that.

670
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,400
Yeah, now it's time as I
mentioned before, for Canada's

671
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,100
favorite segments to fax in a
falsehood bread.

672
00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:49,100
I'm starting to resent this
segment a whole lot.

673
00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:52,700
I'm not doing well this season
Bob.

674
00:37:52,700 --> 00:37:55,700
It's just that it's just an
opportunity for sanctification.

675
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,800
Yeah, you're right, man.
It's, it's Opportunity.

676
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,000
For a lot of things.
It's been an up-and-down season

677
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,800
for me so far to say the least.
Yeah.

678
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,200
That's hey, man.
That's like life.

679
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,500
You just gotta learn how to like
roll with the punches man.

680
00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:12,500
Learn how to be more like De
Niro in Raging Bull.

681
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,600
He's a great role model for you
and this I've always thought

682
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,000
that.
All right man, hit me with those

683
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,200
two facts.
In a falsehood fact.

684
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:25,400
Number one, Sean's place of work
is called for reelect Rick in

685
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:30,000
the movie Ken foree starred in.
Dawn of the Dead in 1978 and had

686
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,800
a cameo in Dawn of the Dead
release in 2004.

687
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,900
Okay.
Fax number two, Simon Pegg.

688
00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:41,200
Originally wrote the script by
himself years before the, the

689
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,600
film came out.
But for a long long time, he

690
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,200
felt like the script wasn't good
enough and he was looking for a

691
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,600
director and upon seeing Edgar
Wright's.

692
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:56,500
First film, A Fistful of fingers
Peg says that he immediately

693
00:38:56,500 --> 00:38:59,800
knew that right was the Perfect
person to collaborate with on

694
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,700
Shaun of the Dead, they got in
contact, they rewrote the script

695
00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:05,300
together and became Fast
Friends.

696
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:12,500
Fact, number three, in March of
2011, this movie Shaun of the

697
00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:16,900
Dead was voted by BBC Radio
listeners as their second

698
00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:20,600
favorite movie of all time.
The first of which being the

699
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,800
Shawshank Redemption.
Oh interesting.

700
00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:27,500
Once again, nicely done.
These all could be very

701
00:39:27,500 --> 00:39:29,800
plausible facts.
Thanks man.

702
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:34,700
I think one sounded the most
like a fact or at least a very

703
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:40,200
innocuous Falsehood to sounds
like it could be true.

704
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:41,800
Three sounds like it could be
true.

705
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,400
I have no idea what British
people like.

706
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:47,100
Let's just let's just assume
they like this and Marmite.

707
00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:53,800
You know I'm gonna say number
three is the falsehood.

708
00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:00,300
That the BBC Radio.
Yes, Bob, you are wrong.

709
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:10,800
Oh my gosh, dude, the falsehood
was about the script number two.

710
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:11,900
Okay.
All right.

711
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,800
Yeah.
I will say though, Edgar

712
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,700
Wright's.
First film was called A Fistful

713
00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:21,300
of fingers.
And I thought, I thought that

714
00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:24,800
you would either not know that
and if you didn't know it I was

715
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,700
like Bob's going to pick this
one as the falsehood because

716
00:40:27,700 --> 00:40:30,900
that's the most ridiculous name
for a movie.

717
00:40:31,300 --> 00:40:33,600
I just kind of figured that you
wouldn't just pepper that in

718
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,600
there.
As the name of a movie, if it

719
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,800
wasn't a real thing, no, it was
a real thing that, yeah, that's

720
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:44,500
his first movie. 1995 was a
parody of, I'm assuming the

721
00:40:44,500 --> 00:40:48,300
Fistful of Dollars Trilogy and
it was set in Wester.

722
00:40:48,300 --> 00:40:52,300
It was a Stern set in Western
England.

723
00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:54,300
You got it.
There it is.

724
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,400
All right.
Well, I am doing just

725
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,900
horrendously at two facts, in a
falsehood this season, you

726
00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:03,300
finally got something to Lord
over me.

727
00:41:03,900 --> 00:41:08,100
Ya on the flip side though, I'm
doing phenomenal on two facts

728
00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:11,500
and faucet.
All right man, let's steer out

729
00:41:11,500 --> 00:41:14,000
of that and back into talking
about this movie.

730
00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:16,800
I think it's time for us to just
talk about the fact that this

731
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:21,600
movie is a really, really Ali,
good metaphor for that time in

732
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:26,200
life, when you know, you're in
your late 20s, you are coming up

733
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,800
on 30.
You need to settle down, you

734
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,500
gotta find a way to grow up a
little bit.

735
00:41:31,900 --> 00:41:36,500
And this movie is a really
poetic kind of visual metaphor

736
00:41:37,100 --> 00:41:40,700
for a young man or, you know, a
man who's not so young anymore,

737
00:41:41,500 --> 00:41:45,500
figuring out what he needs to
sacrifice to grow up and to put

738
00:41:45,500 --> 00:41:49,200
his eggs in the basket of a
serious relationship and the Is

739
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,400
that are trying to tear apart
that relationship and what it

740
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,300
takes, you know, in terms of
adjusting the relationships in

741
00:41:56,300 --> 00:42:01,600
your life, to give somebody the
Precedence that they deserve in

742
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,100
your life.
I really loved it.

743
00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:07,400
Brad like, is it a super deep
metaphor?

744
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,100
Is it really subtle to pick up
on?

745
00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:12,500
Absolutely.
Not like, but I think this would

746
00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:15,000
be a really great movie, you
know, aside from the, you know,

747
00:42:15,008 --> 00:42:19,000
disemboweling to show like a
group of high school High

748
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,100
schoolers when you're talking
about writing and how you can

749
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:25,500
use metaphor to tell an
overarching story.

750
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,700
Like this is just a really
brilliant and again economical

751
00:42:28,700 --> 00:42:32,800
use of that in the script.
Yeah I I don't want to get in

752
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,300
the final scores yet but like I
don't I'm not going to give this

753
00:42:37,300 --> 00:42:40,300
movie A 10/10.
No and yet.

754
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,800
It feels like when you just sit
down and ask yourself, what is

755
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,400
this movie trying to do?
And then look at what they

756
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,300
produced.
It's like a 10/10 Phil.

757
00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:52,900
Yeah.
You know what I mean?

758
00:42:52,900 --> 00:42:58,100
100% like it's just this little.
It's like the little movie that

759
00:42:58,100 --> 00:43:02,700
could I totally.
I just I just think that you're

760
00:43:02,700 --> 00:43:04,800
right.
Like what they were aiming for

761
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:09,900
with the script which is like
this, this really weird and yet

762
00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:14,200
beautiful coming-of-age story
disguised as a rom-com set in

763
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,800
the world where a zombie
apocalypse is happening.

764
00:43:17,300 --> 00:43:20,900
Like I just, I can't get over
the fact and I've said it a

765
00:43:20,900 --> 00:43:24,600
million times.
This movie shouldn't work, it

766
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:29,500
just shouldn't be a great film.
And yet, I just, every time I

767
00:43:29,500 --> 00:43:34,400
watch this movie, I walk away
just going my God, like they

768
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:39,400
pulled off so much in this movie
so much emotion, so much humor,

769
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:44,600
so much depth of character
development and I just, I can't

770
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,800
help but say that like Simon
Pegg.

771
00:43:47,100 --> 00:43:51,400
Edgar Wright wrote one of the
best comedy scripts I've ever

772
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,800
ever seen.
Yeah, and I feel weird calling

773
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,200
it a metaphor to because it's
not really that metaphorical.

774
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,200
It's just that they took the
framing device of a zombie

775
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,500
apocalypse and so like things
that in real life would be kind

776
00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:06,900
of either unspoken or more
subtly.

777
00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:10,400
Spoken have to be more
explicitly folk spoken because

778
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,000
people think they're going to
die at any moment.

779
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,000
So they just say their inner
feelings out loud.

780
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:19,100
And because you totally, Buy
into the zombie aspect of it.

781
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,200
It doesn't seem forced.
It doesn't seem manipulative.

782
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,300
It doesn't seem gimmicky like
that kind of confession scene in

783
00:44:26,300 --> 00:44:29,200
the back of the car.
With Bill Nighy is so

784
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,200
beautifully done and it's the
same thing.

785
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:36,200
Like when Sean's mom dies and I
hate to talk about like Sean

786
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,000
shooting his own mom in the head
as like a beautiful metaphor but

787
00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:43,500
you kind of come to understand
even though Sean never says it

788
00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:46,200
that part of the reason he's
never introduced his girlfriend

789
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,700
to his mom.
Is that I mean, he's like a,

790
00:44:48,707 --> 00:44:52,000
he's a huge mama's boy and he's
never really let go of that

791
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,300
fact.
And he has no beef with his

792
00:44:55,300 --> 00:44:57,300
stepdad.
And so he doesn't want to

793
00:44:57,300 --> 00:45:00,200
introduce her into that
relationship and into that

794
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,800
Dynamic where his mom is
probably a little too clingy and

795
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,800
probably a little too
overbearing.

796
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:11,200
And again, like if this movie is
about Shawn learning to be the

797
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,900
boyfriend that he's supposed to
be, then part of that process.

798
00:45:14,900 --> 00:45:18,300
And, you know, anyone who has
been A long-term relationship

799
00:45:18,300 --> 00:45:20,700
and had to deal with in-laws
kit.

800
00:45:20,700 --> 00:45:25,300
A test part of that problem is
finding ways to adjust some of

801
00:45:25,300 --> 00:45:28,200
those relationships in your life
like a parent and child

802
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,800
relationship so that you can
prioritize somebody else above

803
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,800
them.
And as weird as it sounds to say

804
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:39,600
like Sean's mom ends up becoming
a zombie and therefore like by

805
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,400
the way the metaphors working
like she becomes one of them as

806
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,900
in like a force that is trying
to pull them apart at.

807
00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:48,600
So he has to Rid himself of
that.

808
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,700
It actually, like, it doesn't
sound as gimmicky as I'm making

809
00:45:52,700 --> 00:45:56,700
it sound, it plays really
sincerely and I think that it

810
00:45:56,700 --> 00:46:00,100
really is the strength of the
acting performances, like even

811
00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:04,600
just talking about Barbara.
His mom played by Penelope

812
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,200
Wilton which if you have watched
any Downton Abbey won't over

813
00:46:09,900 --> 00:46:13,000
her.
Performance is so good.

814
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,900
Yeah, like she plays this
scatterbrained mum.

815
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,900
Who is like a little too clingy
with her son and trying to get

816
00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:24,500
him to get along with her new
husband.

817
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,700
And you can tell that they've
just been stuck in this pattern

818
00:46:27,700 --> 00:46:30,400
for decades.
And yet by the end of the film

819
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:35,100
you see how she has a much
deeper grasp on what's going on,

820
00:46:35,300 --> 00:46:38,800
then you gave her credit for the
start and the second part of

821
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:44,500
this movie where I almost cried
is when she hands Liz his

822
00:46:44,500 --> 00:46:47,300
girlfriend's ex girlfriend.
Friend.

823
00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:51,900
Again, when his mom hands her,
this necklace, that was given to

824
00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:54,300
her by his real dad.
Yeah.

825
00:46:54,300 --> 00:46:58,500
And like, passes on the
significance of like his

826
00:46:58,500 --> 00:47:02,100
childhood wounding to her.
Yeah.

827
00:47:02,100 --> 00:47:04,800
It's because listen, it's a
really beautiful.

828
00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:08,000
And again, I don't want to call
it simplistic but it's a

829
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,700
simplistic metaphor.
But if it works, it works like

830
00:47:10,700 --> 00:47:13,500
you can't, you can't fault it
for that and it kind of all

831
00:47:13,500 --> 00:47:16,900
comes to a head at the end of
the movie where he finally has

832
00:47:16,900 --> 00:47:20,200
to Choose Liz over Ed and the
way the movie makes it happen is

833
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,300
that Ed has gotten a bite taken
out of his neck by the zombies.

834
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,000
And so, again, if the zombies
are a metaphor that like Ed is

835
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:31,200
partially holding them back and
the script forces Ed to

836
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,800
confront, this fact, to Sean and
tell him, I have been holding

837
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,700
you back in life.
Like I am kind of a loser, I

838
00:47:37,700 --> 00:47:40,900
have been keeping you from your
potential and if we're being

839
00:47:40,900 --> 00:47:44,000
honest you would be better off
leaving me behind and starting a

840
00:47:44,008 --> 00:47:48,500
life with Liz and man.
Man, it's just, it's such a

841
00:47:48,500 --> 00:47:52,800
great representation of how you
have to reframe relationships as

842
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,800
you get into adulthood.
They reminded me a lot of a

843
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,400
movie that I've been wanting to
do on the podcast that we

844
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,600
haven't done yet from the late
90s, it's movie called swingers

845
00:48:01,900 --> 00:48:04,800
and the lesson of that movie is
pretty much exactly the same as

846
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,900
the lesson of this movie that
like especially as men a you

847
00:48:09,900 --> 00:48:12,900
have to grow up a little bit but
be that means you have to

848
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,900
reconfigure some of these very
immature and childish

849
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:22,200
Friendships that you have in
your young adulthood and the

850
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:26,800
success of this movie is that
they do all that, by Framing it,

851
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,500
inside of the zombie apocalypse
package.

852
00:48:29,500 --> 00:48:34,400
But that the zombie apocalypse
package, doesn't only function

853
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,600
on the level of metaphor.
Like, it is also a very well

854
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,600
done zombie movie and there is
yes.

855
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,100
Real suspense at parts of it and
I think that's the real success

856
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:46,500
of this movie because I've seen
way too many horror movies in

857
00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:49,300
the last few years.
Two years that only work on the

858
00:48:49,300 --> 00:48:52,100
level of metaphor, and they
don't work on the surface and

859
00:48:52,100 --> 00:48:53,000
this one.
Does both.

860
00:48:53,500 --> 00:48:56,300
Yeah.
And and on top of all that, you

861
00:48:56,300 --> 00:48:58,900
know, we kind of mentioned,
like, some of the Edgar Wright

862
00:48:58,900 --> 00:49:03,800
tropes earlier, but, like, his
trademark use of Music in this

863
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,800
movie.
And the way music is rhythmic to

864
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:12,800
what happens on screen is just
freaking hilarious and it and

865
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,900
it's such a beautiful touch and
then, you know, you have the

866
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,900
Fast Cuts between slamming, the
phone down and making toast and

867
00:49:20,900 --> 00:49:25,100
scraping it on and then suddenly
it all comes to a stop and you

868
00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:27,000
have him eating the toes talking
to his roommate.

869
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:32,700
Who wants to kick that out?
Like, I just man, I'm so happy

870
00:49:32,700 --> 00:49:36,500
that we chose Edgar Wright this
season.

871
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,800
Like like doing Spielberg was
great.

872
00:49:39,900 --> 00:49:45,500
Scorsese is just a to me, he is
an enigmatic director.

873
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,200
I never know if I'm going to
like his movies or hate his

874
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,300
movies, but I know I will always
respect them.

875
00:49:51,900 --> 00:49:56,800
And now we're at Edgar Wright
where I'm just like, I just he's

876
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:01,200
just a blast to watch.
Yeah, hundred percent.

877
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,300
All right, man, let's move into
final scores and we've both said

878
00:50:04,300 --> 00:50:07,900
that this movie isn't perfect.
And I do think that, you know,

879
00:50:07,900 --> 00:50:10,700
there's obviously some jokes and
some character traits that have

880
00:50:10,700 --> 00:50:15,300
aged very badly in 2022.
I also think that if there is

881
00:50:15,300 --> 00:50:18,500
some pacing issues to the movie,
They happen in the early going.

882
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:21,700
Like the the zombie stuff
doesn't really kick in until

883
00:50:21,700 --> 00:50:26,000
about the 30 35 minute Mark,
which is totally fine but it's

884
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,600
definitely more deliberately
paste and in the early going

885
00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:35,200
where it is deliberately paste.
Some of the writing for the

886
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,200
characters.
Really shows itself, as being

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kind of thin, like everyone
who's not, Sean is just a, an

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archetype and the way they talk
to each other and interact.

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That's really a parent and You
don't have the zombie stuff to

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distract you from those those
like flaws in the writing, it

891
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definitely dings the movie a
little bit for me.

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I still think this is a
phenomenal movie part of me,

893
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wants to give it a 9 and a half,
but that first half-hour really

894
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did have some pretty big bumps
in the road once the plot kicks

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in in Earnest.
It's like, all right, we're

896
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going now, and you're strapped
in and there's nothing you can

897
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do about it, but I think
ultimately, I'm going to say

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that this is a movie that this
movie is a 9 out of 10, you

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know, Bob I I think I'm going to
give it a 9 and a half out of

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ten.
I like I sat down and for an

901
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hour and a half, I was utterly
enthralled and what Pegg and

902
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Wright were giving us.
And I just there's not a lot of

903
00:51:33,300 --> 00:51:37,200
movies that do that, especially
in the comedy wrong, like

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comedies, often just can't
engross your heart and soul as

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much as they do, just make you
laugh.

906
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Yeah, you know, like, I like, I
don't watch Stepbrothers.

907
00:51:46,900 --> 00:51:51,300
Hours and feel the way I do.
When I'm watching Bill Nighy die

908
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and Shaun of the Dead.
So I man, I think this is one of

909
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my favorite comedies of all
time.

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And I'm going to give it easily
easily a 9 and a half out of

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ten.
All right, that takes us to a

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nine point two five out of ten
but we'd like to know what you

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think.
Write in and tell us your

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thoughts on Shaun of the Dead.
You can find us on our social

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00:52:12,500 --> 00:52:16,300
media accounts, Facebook,
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whiskey.
Or you can join our Discord.

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We are on there every single day
talking to you guys, the people

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00:52:22,100 --> 00:52:25,000
who listened to the film when
whiskey podcast, so jump on

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00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,500
there.
You can find a link to our

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Discord at the end of every one
of our show notes next week.

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We're going to keep it rollin
with more Edgar Wright and we're

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going to check out a movie Brad.
That I have never seen all the

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00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,900
way through before this is a
very rare occurrence.

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00:52:37,900 --> 00:52:41,600
So I'm filming whiskey podcast
but we're watching Scott Pilgrim

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00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,100
vs.
The World.

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So join us next week for that
one.

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But until then, I'm Bob book.
I'm Brad G and we'll see you

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next time.