Secondhand Lions / Angel's Envy

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In 2003 director, Tim McCann
Lee's and stars, Robert Duvall,

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and Michael Caine gave the world
a heartwarming.

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Coming-of-age story that pulls
no punches in 2022.

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We try our first sample of one
of America's first finished

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Whiskey's.
The film is Secondhand Lions.

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The whiskey is Angel's envy and
we'll review them both.

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This is the film and whiskey
podcast.

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Welcome to the film and whiskey
podcast, where each week, we

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review a classic movie and a
glass of whiskey.

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I'm Bob book, I'm Brad G.
And this week we're looking at

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the 2003 film Secondhand Lions,
a movie that may have In

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mentioned, more than any other
film in the history of this

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podcast, because if you're a
listener, you know, this might

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be Brad's favorite movie ever.
It's up there, man.

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You love this movie brat.
Dude, I'm just going to start

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with the story of the first time
I ever saw a Secondhand Lions.

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I'm going to the theaters with
my grandmother, just her and I

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were going to see Secondhand
Lions.

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Now, this was back in the The
day, I know, I'm going to lose

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anybody who's under the age of
like 25, but this is back in the

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day when you had a newspaper
delivered to your house every

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week and in that newspaper Bob,
I'm sure you'll remember the

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local theaters would print movie
times, right?

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Sure.
And you got to look and see when

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what day, and what time movies
were showing.

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Well, so it's Saturday morning,
my grandma pulls out the paper,

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and it says that the movie
starts at like 10 20.

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And so, you know, it's 950 and
We're driving on over, I'm

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yelling at my grandma for going
like 42 and a 25.

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And we get to the the movie
theater and the movie theater is

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locked.
There's not a single car in the

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parking lot and it is obviously
that they printed the wrong time

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and in the paper right?
It's probably 11:20.

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So my grandmother, who at this
time is probably like, I don't

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know, 80 82 proceeds to get out.
We look in the front doors, it's

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obviously closed.
And Bob you've been to Cinemark

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in Valley View.
Correct.

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So why don't you inform the
audience?

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How big that movie theater is?
I think it's like 24:26 screens.

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It's it's a massive Multiplex.
I remember when it was built it

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was like one of the three
largest Cinemas in the country.

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My grandma proceeded to walk
around that entire building,

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checking every single door to
try and get in.

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So she could yell at somebody
for the the wrong time being

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printed.
I don't know exactly what she

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was so angry about but no joke.
We walked around that entire

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building checking every single
door to get into this, this

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theater.
That was so obviously closed.

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All right.
So then when did you see the

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movie?
So we stayed there for an hour

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until they opened up.
My grandma went in and she

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yelled at somebody and some poor
teenager had to listen to my 80

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year, old grandma, yell at them,
bore the brunt of that.

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Yeah, it's great hats off to
them man, but then we went in

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and we saw Secondhand Lions and
as like, I probably was 2003.

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So I was like 12 or 13 years
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And my grandma.
It was me my grandma and maybe

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like four other people in this
movie theater and she was just

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laughing her butt off the entire
film.

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Like, almost every third line,
she was just losing it and I'm

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sitting there, like, dipping
down in my seat, like Grandpa,

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why are you laughing so much?
But since that first faded movie

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watching experience, it became
like my family's favorite V to

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watch with people because like,
when we'd have people over and

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we go to pick a movie to watch
and avidly, they be like, oh,

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have you seen Secondhand Lions?
And, of course they hadn't

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because nobody's seen it.
And so, my parents who I do, you

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need to watch Secondhand Lions.
And so, I'm pretty sure at this

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point.
It's my like most-watched movie

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overall.
I've probably seen it a bob book

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amount of time, like, 15 to 20
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I love that story, man.
Yeah, dude.

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I'm glad you kind of admitted
upfront to that.

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There is a huge sentimental
attachment to this movie, like

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aside from, you know, it just
hitting you at the right age.

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Like that's a story that you
shared with your grandma

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forever.
That's a story that you share

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with your family forever.
Like, that's the kind of movie

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watching experience that sticks
with you and that matters and I

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responded.
I was going to say this is like

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my most memorable movie
attending experience actually my

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Second most was seeing Godzilla
when I lived in Philly, but

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that's a story for another day.
So let me preface the whole rest

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of the episode with this like
Brad.

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I know you're going to give this
movie a 10 out of 10 and you

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probably know that I'm not going
to give this movie A 10/10.

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And I think it in some ways, the
scores we give this movie, don't

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matter at all.
Because this is, this is you

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sharing with me a part of
yourself.

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This is what movies do best,
right?

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And this is usually the kind of
thing that I would say at the

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end of the episode to have some
Of nice sentimental thing to

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carry us off into the next week.
But I want to say it here

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because this is what movies do
for people.

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And at the end of the day you
like what you like.

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And I think in some ways like if
a movie just happens to hit you

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at the right time, you can't
even help what you like

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sometimes.
You know the movie that you and

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your significant other saw on
your very first date is a story

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that you're going to share
forever whether or not it was

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the greatest film you've ever
seen.

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And I think whether or not you
remember any of the She, hey,

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there it is.
And Brad, I think that you would

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probably admit, like,
objectively speaking.

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This is not the greatest film
ever made and you're not arguing

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that it is, but it is a movie
that holds a very special place

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in your heart.
And I think that when, when you

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and I sit down to kind of like,
critically, evaluate movies that

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mean a lot to either of us, you
know, it kind of takes on a

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different, a different tone.
Because at the end of the day,

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like does it really matter what
the flaws of this movie are?

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It's not going to change your
score.

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And it's Going to take away from
what the movie means to you.

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Yeah, I mean there's still a
world where you give ET attend

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and that's just unacceptable e.
The poor taste of movies.

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But hey, go for it man.
So I'm coming into this episode

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having seen this movie.
I think one other time on Brad's

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recommendation.
I think I watched this in

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college or maybe really early on
in our grad school experience

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Brad because I'd always heard
you kind of hype it up and it

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happened to be on Netflix or and
I said, yeah, I'll give it a

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whirl so it's been a number of
years since I've re-watched this

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I am the Brad G of this
equation.

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Today I'm kind of going back
into this movie, not remembering

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much about it and I will say
Brad that in true Brad G

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fashion.
I took 0 notes on this movie

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because yeah, there we go, I
knew that a like if I took a

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bunch of notes if I had these
really minut nitpicky things

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like it would just make this
episode poor because none of

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that's going to Act what you
think of the movie.

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And I think webisodes like this,
it's more important to just kind

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of give our general impressions
of the movie.

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And so like this is going to be
I think a really loosey-goosey

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kind of episode for us today.
Brad Bob, I love that you've

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spent the past five minutes.
Basically, trying to soften the

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blow that you don't think this
is a good movie.

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I did not say that.
Nah, let's see.

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You feels like you're having in
Hong quite a bit, Bob.

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I think that interestingly for
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I honestly, He was I was kind of
going on a IMDb spree of like,

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rating movies that I know.
Well enough I can rate without

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like watching them again
recently.

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You know what I mean?
And I got to Second and lines

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and I was like, you know, I'll
be fair.

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I'll give it like a nine.
I know that I love it more than

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other people.
I'll probably watch it again.

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Someday and realize like.
Yeah, it's probably like an

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eight to eight and a half movie
that I give it a 9 bro.

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I'll tell you what man?
Sitting down for this episode.

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I I was genuinely blown away
like I haven't watched this

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movie since we started the
podcast.

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So I do feel like I'm bringing a
fresher set of eyes.

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You know, with all the Cinematic
knowledge I've gained over the

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last almost three years now.
Holy cow.

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And I think, I think this movie
holds up Bob.

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All right, well, let's not
delay, it any longer.

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I think it's time for us to get
into Brad.

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Explains the part of the
podcast, where Brad breaks down

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the movie.
He has just seen often for the

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Is time according to Brad.
This was at least his twenty

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first time seeing the movie.
So this should be no issue for

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you.
Brad, we're putting 60 seconds

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on the clock.
Can you explain the plot of

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Secondhand Lions Secondhand?
Lions is about a young boy named

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Walter who is dropped off at his
great uncle's house in Texas for

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the summer, he gets to hang out
with them.

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He is Young and shy and going
through all the voice squeaks

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you can imagine.
And it's A about him learning to

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become a man by hanging out with
his great uncle's who supposedly

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are worth millions and millions
of dollars throughout the film.

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He is offered different
explanations as to how they came

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by their money.
He's not even totally certain

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that they have all that money.
But they're wealthy enough to

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buy a few things from traveling
salesman and the movie hinges on

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this idea of what are the
stories you believe about the

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world and the stories that he
learns from his uncle's helped

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shape him into the kind of
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He was, It's to be, boom.
That was 45 seconds.

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Nicely done, dude, nailed it
man.

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So Brad.
I think as we as we get into

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this movie, I'm going to be
comparing it to probably a

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number of other movies.
As you know, I tend to do here.

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But I think the very first thing
I want to compare it to is based

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off what you said in, Brad
explains that in a lot of ways.

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This is a movie that becomes
about like Stories, We Tell and

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stories we choose to believe
about each other.

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And I think in that way, that
was probably the most touching

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Chewing theme of the movie for
me and it reminded me a lot of

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the conversation that we had
around Life of Pi which was that

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you know, at the end of the day
there are two ways of looking at

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the world around us like either
there's a God or there's not and

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no no amount of arguments I
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someone Beyond like which story
do you prefer when you look at

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the world around you?
And I kind of really liked that

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this movie tipped into that
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That like a major part of
growing up is deciding what you

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believe about the world.
And sticking to that and making

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your principles consistent with
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I thought that was a really
beautiful touch here.

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Yeah.
And actually that was what I the

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element of the movie that you're
talking about, is it really

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culminates when Walter who has
been slowly learning the life of

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his uncle's the story of his
uncle's life through his one.

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Uncle Garth.
There's a point where Hub is

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telling Walter that it doesn't
matter what a man believes as

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long as he believes in it and
believes in it.

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Wholeheartedly like it doesn't
matter if it's true or not.

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I remember for a long time.
And when I was younger thinking

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that that was like the the
unfortunate part of this movie,

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you know, like I don't know, I
was just young and I craved this

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sense of certainty and that you
have to know something to be

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true in order to believe in it.
But I think that there's an

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element in Me As I Grew Older
that I've actually We come to

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appreciate that as one of the
most important parts of the

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movie, that that's almost the
idea of what faith is for me.

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That there's a small element of
any human being that can't know

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for certain that what they
believe is ultimately true.

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And that is the fact that makes
it so important that they

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believed in it.
Anyways.

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Hmm, the long speech I give the
young man sounds like you need

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to hear a piece of it.
Peace.

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Sometimes the things that may or
may not be true of the things

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that a man needs to believe in
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The people are basically good
and honor, courage and virtue in

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everything, the power and money
money and power me.

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Nothing.
Good always triumphs over evil.

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Don't you remember this?
Love.

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True.
Love those guys remember that

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boy.
I don't know.

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Does that make sense?
Yeah and I feel like Brad this

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this episode just feels so
inverted from what we normally

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But I will say as we kind of
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of the movie that I have
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also kind of in some ways, the,
the element that I felt was most

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underserved and I wish they had
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it, a little bit deeper with it.
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when they Flash Forward to
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EB, kind of get a little glimpse
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of the movie, but I just wish
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of a call back to that idea of
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essentially.
And like I said, living your

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life consistent with what you
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So it was a really nice touch
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first area where I would say, I
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little bit further.
Does that make sense?

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Yeah, it kind of does.
I mean for me, I think the whole

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movie kind of hinges around that
and you see it played Out in the

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different facets of the movie.
I think you see that question

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answered by all the different
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by his mom, how the story that
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life and the type of life that
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You see it in her boyfriend that
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of the movie you see it?
When Hub is fighting the young

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teenage boys at the at the gas
station and the speech that he

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gives them like you see all the
characters declare Saying this

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is who I am based on the things
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I take, and Walter sits back the
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these different people engage in
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And at the end of it, he gets
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His heroic moment to choose what
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And that like, so, for me, I
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revolves around that, if
anything, the, the ending of the

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movie does, I'm with You a
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It kind of changes that a little
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yep they just they really lived
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And instead of giving you a like
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Yes.
Yep, I don't know, totally

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agree.
So let's talk about the

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performances.
I think we've run on a little

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long here about about like deep
themes of the movie, people want

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to know who's in this movie and
the three stars of this film are

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Haley, Joel Osment, Robert
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And Michael Caine and man.
Oh man are all three of them

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like unreasonably.
Good in this movie.

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This is this is this is a
children's movie that was not

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made for a lot of money, and if
I'm being frank it doesn't like

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it's not a very good-looking
movie, like it kind of looks

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like a TV movie and I think some
elements of it feel like they

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kind of cheaped out on it, but
then it's almost like they knew,

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all right?
Well, if we nail the three

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leads, it's still going to be a
good movie.

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Remember, no matter what else we
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And it's kind of like when you
put Michael Caine up against a

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bunch of Muppets and in A
Christmas Carol, And it becomes

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like maybe the best version of A
Christmas Carol ever because

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it's my cocaine Brad.
I mean especially the the

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veterans here, Duvall, and
Michael.

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Caine are just uniformly,
excellent, Robert Duvall.

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This might be one of my favorite
performances of all time.

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Like when I talk about a
performer being sincere, this is

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the performance I'm talking
about it's a perfect Duval

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performance.
To and and like he is one of our

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great.
I don't want to say unsung

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actors because people, it's like
people who know.

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No, you know, you see some of
the more showy performers from

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that era, a your Pacino's or
your, You Know, Jack

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Nicholson's, your even your
Deniro's to some point.

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And and I think guys like
Hackman and Duval kind of fly

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under the radar because they are
they've always been just a

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little more understated in the
performances that they choose

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and Duval especially but man.
Oh man.

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I mean Great in everything.
Like I was just sharing the news

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with somebody today that
Paramount's going to re-release,

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The Godfather, some time here in
February and like in theaters.

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And I've just started thinking
about how great he is as Tom

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Hagen and how everyone's talking
about Pacino and, you know,

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James Caan and Marlon Brando and
it's like, yeah.

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But have you watched how good
Robert Duvall?

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His that movie bro you literally
took the words out of my mouth.

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I was about to say like think
about Robert Duvall in The

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Godfather.
Nobody talks about that

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performance.
But it's it's probably up there

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is a top two or three
performances in that movie.

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So like him in this movie
though, I I think what I love

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about it is that he hand and I
could probably say it's about

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Kane as well.
Both of them.

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I feel like could have just
turned in for a paycheck but I

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honestly feel like they treated
this movie like a lot of younger

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stars do when they get their
indie project green.

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Hmm.
They took this.

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So seriously this idea of being
a parental figure to a young boy

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who needs guidance.
They like they bought in and you

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can tell in their performance
the way they treat Haley Joel

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Osment.
Like he is their equal every

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single time.
He's on screen with them and

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they get it.
They recognize his role in the

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movie and they just give such a
sincere performance when he has

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that kid by the throat, and he's
giving them the speech of who.

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He is.
Hey, who do you think you are,

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huh, just dumb kid, huh?
Don't kill me.

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McCain fought in two world wars
and countless smaller ones on

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three continents.
I lived thousands of men into

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battle with everything with
horses and swords to artillery

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and tanks.
I've seen the headwaters of the

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Nile and tribes and Native no
white man has ever seen before

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I've won or lost.
That doesn't fortunes kill many

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men.
And loved only one woman with a

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passion of flee like you but
never begin to understand that's

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who I am.
Just literal chills.

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Every single time I even think
about it let alone watch it.

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All right, so let's talk about
Michael Caine a little bit, then

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on the flip side and I don't
know how to express that.

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I think Michael Caine is great
in this movie and also that I

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think if they were going to
replace one of the two, Michael

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Caine would be the one to go for
me.

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I don't know if that makes
sense, but it's really risky to

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put Michael Caine in a movie
like this where he's playing an

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American with a Southern accent.
And having the Michael, Caine

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Cockney voice.
Because he goes through, at

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least five different Southern
dialects in this movie.

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Yeah.
Like he's from Tennessee, he's

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in the Panhandle, he's in like,
you know, Georgia and then he's

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in Texas and you're like, okay
like what go with one buddy and

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you know, he's trying really
hard and God bless him for that

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and I think his just his sheer
acting ability.

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Makes up for a lot of it.
But I do kind of Wonder like,

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alright, I wonder what other
Actors probably would have been

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available for this and if
they're at least 90% as good as

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Michael Caine, like what does it
do to the chemistry of this

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movie?
You know what I mean?

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Yeah, honestly I think for me
it's so hard to imagine anyone

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else in that role mostly because
of the chemistry that he and

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Duvall have together.
Like I don't think there's a

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world in which I couldn't
imagine those two as bickering.

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Old brothers who are just
Bachelors who Who are living out

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the rest of their life on a
little Old Farm in Texas.

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And so, his performance for me,
really hinges on the fact that

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he has such good chemistry with
Duvall and with Osment, that

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that feels almost Irreplaceable.
All right.

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So there's Michael Caine.
We've done Robert Duvall.

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Let's do Haley Joel Osment.
If we're comparing it to like

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the sixth sense, I think this
performance is like 85% as good

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as that performance, which is
saying a lot, right?

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Like that's the best child
performance I've ever seen, but

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I think it comes down to a
couple things for me that are

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just like slight detractions.
And first of all I just don't

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think that the director of this
film is a very competent

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director and I think that'll
come up in the second half.

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We'll get into some of the
technical stuff and also like I

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just don't think he's a great
director of actors and so I

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think like when it comes time
for Haley, Joel Osment to do

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some things that are a little
bit out of his wheelhouse like

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that.
Very First scene where they drop

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him off.
And he's, you know, it's played

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for Laughs of, like the pig
coming up, and smelling him and

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him, not knowing what to do.
Like, it's a little bit of

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physical comedy, and that's not
something we've really seen from

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Haley.
Joel Osment, that scene played a

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little awkwardly for me, like,
it worked pretty well, but I

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think that like, if you put that
in the hands of like a

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Spielberg, it's obviously going
to be 10 times better, right?

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Yeah, I think in general, my
main issue with McKinley's is a

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director is that he just doesn't
always know what to do with the

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camera.
No.

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Not at all.
Like there's so many moments

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where I'm like, he could have
been served by just having one

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camera shot that slowly like
panned around the scene, rather

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than all of the different
cutaways that he uses.

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And and so if there's any like
specific thing that I struggle

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with, it's that and even that
scene that you're talking about

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when they drop him off, there
could have been literally one,

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beautiful shot.
Like from the house.

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Where you see the two uncles.
You see Haley, Joel Osment, you

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see his mom.
Going away.

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And then the camera should
slowly swoop from up down behind

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Haley, Joel Osment, almost
looking up at the house with his

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uncle's walking away from him
and like, see the house from

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from Walters point of view as
this big large imposing almost

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like Haunted Mansion.
Yeah.

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And it would have been one shot,
right.

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Instead, you literally had about
six different shots of the

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wheels on the car as it drove
away and then Walters face.

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S and then the uncle's turning
to leaving and then back to

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Walter and then back to the shot
of like the house and the uncles

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and Walter.
I'm like, you guys just don't

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one shot.
Do demand amazing before we do

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anything else.
I am, I'm grinning from ear to

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ear right now.
I'm so proud of you Brad.

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She like you you're out here
like directing a movie in your

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mind.
That's right.

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Like saying this is, this shot
would have worked better if

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you'd done it this way.
And yep, let's be honest here.

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Like, when we started this
podcast, three years ago, I

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don't know.
If, if you at that time, would

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have paid as much attention to
the way of movie was shot and

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edited, you know?
And now you're like, hey I've

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seen enough, you know, in your
Ritu, movies, that I know that

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this can be done in one shot
like, yep.

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So I agree with you and I think
that I mentioned this before,

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but the look of this movie.
It looks its drab it.

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Well it's not.
It's not only that it's dry.

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Yeah, I mean like it's drab and
it also just it looks like a TV

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movie like the way that each
shot.

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It is framed.
It's like slightly too close.

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So that they're like almost like
they're planning on it being,

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you know, chop down on the
sides.

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It's called pan and scan.
For when they used to show

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movies on the old four by three
TVs, it was almost like they

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intended to make this for
television.

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And I think the director here
is, his name is mac and Ali's.

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You said Tim McCann, Lima
kenley's.

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I think that he tips into some
things that are like very

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emblematic of TV, movies of the
time of like, Movies.

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00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:09,300
The very, very end of this
movie, you have that line of

446
00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:14,000
like, yeah, they really lived
and they freeze frame it on the

447
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,500
actors like cheesy smiling face
and then he's like, that's not

448
00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:20,100
good enough.
We have to remind you who were

449
00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:22,400
talking about.
And so he cuts back to another

450
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,200
shot of Michael dead.
Michael Caine and then another

451
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,800
shot of dead, Robert Duvall, and
then a final shot of them

452
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,500
walking into the house.
And this time around, it's all

453
00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:33,800
sepia-toned, like they're in the
beginning of The Wizard of Oz.

454
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,300
And I'm like, Buddy, like we
know who you're talking about,

455
00:25:38,300 --> 00:25:41,400
it's a good ending, he you wrote
a pretty good script here like

456
00:25:41,700 --> 00:25:44,900
get out of your own way and I
think like this is a

457
00:25:44,908 --> 00:25:46,800
conversation.
We had about Shyamalan,

458
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,900
especially of Shyamalan, the
writer versus the director and

459
00:25:49,900 --> 00:25:52,400
sometimes it's like Shyamalan
the director.

460
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,200
Doesn't trust the writer enough
or vice versa?

461
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,900
I feel like if, if McCann Lee's
had just given the script off to

462
00:25:59,900 --> 00:26:03,500
whatever director was available
at the time, we probably would

463
00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:06,500
have gotten a movie that at
least visually Looked a lot

464
00:26:06,500 --> 00:26:09,900
better and was a most probably
edited together better as well

465
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,700
because you're like bread, I
have nothing bad to say.

466
00:26:13,700 --> 00:26:16,100
Like there's a couple cheesy
moments in this movie.

467
00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:18,500
I think there's a couple like
really we're going to do that

468
00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:20,700
now.
But yeah, for the most part,

469
00:26:20,700 --> 00:26:22,900
this is a really tightly
constructed script and I think

470
00:26:22,900 --> 00:26:26,600
it's well written but the
directing is just really subpar,

471
00:26:26,700 --> 00:26:30,400
you know, who he could have
handed it off to who's that his

472
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,700
buddy?
Brad Bird.

473
00:26:31,700 --> 00:26:34,800
Who directed the film that Tim
McKinley's also wrote Iron

474
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:35,500
Giant.
Yeah.

475
00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:36,700
Yeah.
The Iron Giant.

476
00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:40,200
He sure could have.
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you, dude.

477
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,200
There are a few moments in this
movie that come across as

478
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,600
cheesy.
They work for me because I just

479
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,700
think this movie is freaking
hilarious.

480
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,500
But I, like, I can understand
the, there's a few times where

481
00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:54,600
it's, it's super cheese.
I got it.

482
00:26:55,900 --> 00:26:58,400
The biggest thing for me,
though, with the humor in this

483
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:04,900
movie, is that it's just so
easily believed in like, dude,

484
00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:09,400
the moment One of the best jokes
of the movie, doesn't even have

485
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,000
a single line attached to it.
They're out there.

486
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,700
Digging up their garden and hub
and Garth are eaten.

487
00:27:15,700 --> 00:27:20,500
Our dipping and hub, just
reaches over and offer, some dip

488
00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:25,900
to Walter that, he just starts
hacking up a lung and you just

489
00:27:25,900 --> 00:27:30,700
see, Robert Duvall laughing and
and Garth is yelling at him and

490
00:27:30,700 --> 00:27:34,900
he's clapping him on the back.
It's just the humor throughout

491
00:27:34,900 --> 00:27:39,400
this movie.
She it's just emblematic of like

492
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,300
good old people, humor.
All right before I didn't know

493
00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:44,800
go ahead.
I was at the other.

494
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,900
The other line for me that
genuinely is just the funniest

495
00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:50,300
stuff in the world.
Is that moment?

496
00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:52,400
And this is a, this is a moment
where I think it's actually

497
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,800
well-directed.
You have this camera shot from

498
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,000
the top of the stairs and you
see Walter with like an

499
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,200
old-timey, candle Peak around
from the corner.

500
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:07,500
And then he pulls back and the
camera shot changes.

501
00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:12,300
And you see Walter standing in
front of Duvall and Kane.

502
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,800
They just go on this speech
about well, we're getting pretty

503
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,100
old now.
His brother goes yet, we're

504
00:28:19,100 --> 00:28:21,400
kicking off to die any moment
now.

505
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,600
So we've, we die in the middle
of the night.

506
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,900
You're on your own.
The look of Terror.

507
00:28:28,900 --> 00:28:32,300
Yeah, his face as he goes up the
stairs.

508
00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:37,100
It's Priceless really good.
Just man the humor in this movie

509
00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:40,800
just gets me every single time.
All right, Brad, I think we're

510
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,400
in a good place to press.
Pause here.

511
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,600
There's a couple more
performances.

512
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,100
I do want to talk about
particularly Kyra Sedgwick and I

513
00:28:47,108 --> 00:28:49,600
also want to compare this to a
couple other movies because I

514
00:28:49,608 --> 00:28:52,200
think you might like where I'm
going with my comparisons here,

515
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,200
but we'll save that for after
the break, let's drink this

516
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,500
Angels.
Envy, what do you say?

517
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:04,800
Let's get to it.
Alright, today, we are trying

518
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,900
one of the more popular brands
in American whiskey.

519
00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:12,400
This is Angel's Envy bourbon.
Angels Envy is, is pretty famous

520
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,000
around these parts Brad, because
it was really the first bourbon

521
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,100
that unlike a big scale that was
finishing, their stuff in Old

522
00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:23,700
Port casks.
They took the principles of what

523
00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:26,100
you normally see in the scotch
world and started applying it to

524
00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:28,900
Bourbon.
This is the brainchild of pretty

525
00:29:28,900 --> 00:29:31,900
legendary Master distiller,
Lincoln Henderson and his son

526
00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:33,800
Wes.
We've heard about Lincoln

527
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,900
Henderson on the show before he
was Peggy.

528
00:29:35,900 --> 00:29:38,800
No Stevens boss for a long time
at Brown Forman.

529
00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:41,900
He's pretty much responsible for
Woodford Reserve.

530
00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:44,400
He's also responsible for
releasing Gentleman Jack.

531
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,700
So like the guy's a Legend and
his son came up to him, one day,

532
00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:49,700
and said, he wanted to work
together and they kind of hit on

533
00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:54,500
this idea of finishing bourbon.
Now, it seems very I don't know,

534
00:29:54,500 --> 00:29:58,400
quaint to look at the last five,
six, seven years of the bourbon

535
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,300
world and all of the crazy
finishes were getting now.

536
00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:04,600
And think that you know, not
that Ago, 10, 11 years ago when

537
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,500
angels and be launched, they
were really the only name in the

538
00:30:07,508 --> 00:30:10,300
game doing this.
So I mean, they have a really

539
00:30:10,300 --> 00:30:13,700
special place in the heart of a
lot of bourbon drinkers, but

540
00:30:13,700 --> 00:30:17,100
Brad, I'm interested to see if
their Flagship product really

541
00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:19,500
still holds up with some of
these great finishes we've tried

542
00:30:19,500 --> 00:30:21,900
before.
Yeah, this is a bottle that I

543
00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:23,900
got from a good friend of mine
for my birthday.

544
00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:26,500
Shout-out to producer Eric from
season one.

545
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,200
If anybody remembers and for me
I've tried it a few times and

546
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,600
it's a wonderful gift because
It's really hard to get it flies

547
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,000
off the shelves, any time it
hits them.

548
00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:40,400
It's not my favorite whiskey.
I'll just put it that way.

549
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,700
Yeah Brad I don't know if I've
ever tried just the standard

550
00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:45,600
Angels Envy, they have some
other finishes.

551
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,900
Now they do a barrel proof like
a lot of their higher end stuff

552
00:30:48,900 --> 00:30:51,200
is very, very good.
But what we're dealing with

553
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,200
today is just your standard
Angels, Envy.

554
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,400
It clocks in at eighty six
point, six proof or forty three

555
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,600
point three percent alcohol by
volume.

556
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,300
This is sourced whiskey.
That this is then finished in

557
00:31:01,300 --> 00:31:04,200
these port casks.
I'm excited to dive in here.

558
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,400
Let's get to it, man.
What do you picking up on the

559
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,100
nose?
You know, Bob it has, it has a

560
00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:14,500
pleasant knows it's got a little
bit of a caramely tinge to it.

561
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:18,800
There's a, there's a tiny bit of
gray, penis to it that you'd

562
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:23,000
expect from a port finish.
And I get a hint of oakiness on

563
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,000
the back end of it.
It's not incredibly complex, but

564
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,200
it's a nice pleasant knows.
I think I'll give it a 7.

565
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,700
I'll give it a 7 out of 10.
So this is sourced whiskey.

566
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,300
E and it comes from the name of
the company that it comes from

567
00:31:35,300 --> 00:31:38,300
is Kentucky bourbon distillers,
which is like a code name.

568
00:31:38,300 --> 00:31:42,400
For, will it Distillery and I
think that, you know, assuming

569
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,500
they're using the same juice in,
Will It products that they're

570
00:31:44,500 --> 00:31:47,000
using in this?
This this has a lot of the

571
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,500
willingness to it.
Like it has a lot of that on.

572
00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:52,000
Come on, Bob just saying oh, you
ready for it?

573
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:57,600
It's got some fuck actually,
like in this in this regard

574
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,600
because it's so watered down.
I think like it just comes

575
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,200
across a little more Dusty like
there, is that kind of like

576
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,200
Sawdust As to this but it kind
of just smells like a standard

577
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,600
bourbon.
Like if I took my Noah's Mill

578
00:32:08,900 --> 00:32:10,400
and I just watered it down a
little bit.

579
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,400
I don't know that I'm really
getting any port influence here.

580
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:18,300
So I like it but it's just I'm
not picking up anything like

581
00:32:18,300 --> 00:32:20,300
extravagant here.
So I'm gonna give it a seven and

582
00:32:20,308 --> 00:32:22,200
a half on the nose.
Yeah.

583
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:30,700
Bob honestly it kind of comes
across a little bit leathery are

584
00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:34,700
you all right over there man?
No, good finish finish your

585
00:32:34,700 --> 00:32:35,400
thoughts.
I'll help you.

586
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:40,600
I'll be quiet.
I'll just restart that thought

587
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,500
no, no, just go on it.
This is all staying in there.

588
00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:47,000
There's a, there's a bit of
mustiness to it there.

589
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,300
I get like a tiny bit of like, I
don't know.

590
00:32:50,300 --> 00:32:53,700
Almost like a strawberry jam
note.

591
00:32:54,500 --> 00:32:58,200
There's some vanilla I guess.
I don't know.

592
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,600
Bob I'm struggle.
They can you help me out?

593
00:33:00,700 --> 00:33:04,200
No, no I can't.
So I'll say this.

594
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,800
It's almost like it hits the
middle of your palate, and then

595
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,300
it's like, nope.
And he decides to do something

596
00:33:10,300 --> 00:33:13,600
very different.
So like, you know, I took a sip

597
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,100
and on the front of my pal and
I'm like, all right, it's not

598
00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:17,300
very sweet but it's got like a
little bit of.

599
00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:18,800
I'm getting a little bit of an
alcohol.

600
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,600
Tingle, I think this might go in
the direction of a Rowan's Creek

601
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,600
or a Noah's Mill, which I both
really like.

602
00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:27,600
And then I went to swallow it
and it was like there is no

603
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,300
sweetness.
There is no like dustiness.

604
00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:33,200
It is.
It's just like, hey, would you

605
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,900
like some Robitussin?
And then it's like, and it's not

606
00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:40,400
even like, I mean, it really
tastes like NyQuil or Robitussin

607
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,800
like it.
Has that kind of like, fake

608
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:48,600
grape flavor to it but it's
cough syrup for me and like, I

609
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,600
don't, I don't like this Brad.
Yeah, yeah.

610
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,800
I think it's a 5 for me on the
palate.

611
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,900
It's not, it's not horrific it
like it's still a decent

612
00:33:59,900 --> 00:34:04,200
whiskey.
But they're like you said the

613
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,000
the decent Ness kind of Falls
Away really quickly on the

614
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,800
finish for me.
The Finish.

615
00:34:10,900 --> 00:34:14,900
Like you said it feels like I
just took a sip of cough syrup.

616
00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:18,699
Yeah and that's the flavor
that's sitting on my palate so

617
00:34:18,699 --> 00:34:22,199
for me it's a 5 out of 10 on the
palate but a 3 out of 10 on the

618
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:24,300
Finish.
Yeah I'm going to give it a I'll

619
00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:26,500
give it a 5 on the palate, just
being generous because it's a

620
00:34:26,507 --> 00:34:30,900
birthday gift for you and I'll
give it a four and a half on the

621
00:34:30,900 --> 00:34:34,300
Finish.
Like the actual, the the feeling

622
00:34:34,300 --> 00:34:39,000
in your chest and kind of like
going down, you know, the gullet

623
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:43,600
is not that bad but it's that
lasting flavor of cough syrup.

624
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,000
That's just not doing it for me
when it comes to balance, I

625
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,100
don't know that I can score this
very high on balance either

626
00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:53,199
because the nose really promised
a very different experience than

627
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:55,400
what was delivered here
actually.

628
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,100
I think this drinks a lot
spicier than the 86 proof that

629
00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:00,400
it is.
I would have thought this was

630
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,400
about, you know, 90 85 to 100
Proof.

631
00:35:03,900 --> 00:35:06,600
So I don't know if that's good
or bad, but I expect it to be a

632
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,000
little bit more well-rounded.
Maybe taste a little bit more

633
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,100
mature than it.
I mean, it doesn't taste young,

634
00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:15,000
but it also doesn't taste like
that kind of dustiness that you

635
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,800
get from from some of Will.
It's tough.

636
00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:19,000
I guess.
I'll give it a 6 on the balance.

637
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,000
Brad.
Yeah.

638
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,800
I was going to say, for me, on
the balance.

639
00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:23,800
It's a decently balanced
whiskey.

640
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,400
You definitely get those Jam
notes throughout the entire

641
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,000
experience, which is really
nice.

642
00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:33,500
I'll give it a sure. 6.
I'll give it a 6 on balance.

643
00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:34,300
All right.
Brad.

644
00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:36,400
If you wanted to pick up a
bottle of this in the state of

645
00:35:36,408 --> 00:35:38,800
Ohio, how much would it set you
back?

646
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:46,500
That would be $49.99.
Okay, so it's right now looking

647
00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:51,300
at it, sold out, not available,
not available in stock, sold

648
00:35:51,300 --> 00:35:52,600
out.
Sold out right now.

649
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,600
Located here.
It's I mean it's going to come

650
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,300
by.
Yeah, so I mean we kind of have

651
00:35:57,300 --> 00:35:59,800
to evaluate this the way we
would a lot of Buffalo Trace

652
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,600
products.
This costs As much in the state

653
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:07,300
of Ohio as a bottle of Weller
antique and I'm not directly

654
00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:09,000
comparing the two because that's
not that's a no-brainer.

655
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,200
But in the same way it's like,
okay it cost you $50 and you

656
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,300
probably have to wait a few
weeks until somebody gets a

657
00:36:15,300 --> 00:36:17,500
shipment of it and you probably
have to drive to a liquor store

658
00:36:17,500 --> 00:36:19,500
that you didn't initially intend
to go to.

659
00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:22,400
So it's like $50 plus extra
Hoops.

660
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:27,300
I don't think $50 is necessarily
like an outrageous price for

661
00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:31,200
this because it's kind of in
that like basil Hayden's vein of

662
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,200
a Proof whiskey, that is
positioning itself as being

663
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,500
higher end, I wouldn't spend $50
on this.

664
00:36:37,500 --> 00:36:40,400
I certainly wouldn't like have
to wait on pins and needles for

665
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,400
it to come in.
I'm just going to give it again.

666
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,400
I'll give it a four and a half
on value bread.

667
00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:49,700
Yeah, I'll give it a flat five.
It's not a terrible value.

668
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,000
I don't want to say it's the
worst finished whiskey we've

669
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:58,000
ever had, but it's definitely
far in a way, not the best, but

670
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:03,000
$50 is not breaking the bank.
It's not Wildly expensive for a

671
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,800
finished whiskey.
So yeah, I'll stick in the

672
00:37:05,808 --> 00:37:10,100
middle and give it a 5.
I'm coming out to a 27.5 out of

673
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:10,600
50.
Brad.

674
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,900
This is a this is not not
cracking that upper echelon for

675
00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:16,600
me.
Where are you at 26:26?

676
00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:20,700
All right, so we're two fifty
three and a half out of 100 or a

677
00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:23,700
twenty six point seven.
Five out of 50.

678
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,700
I am not going to recommend
buying and I'm also not going to

679
00:37:26,707 --> 00:37:29,100
recommend trying.
I mean if somebody has a bottle

680
00:37:29,700 --> 00:37:32,800
like great but I don't think You
need to buy this at the bar.

681
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,800
Yeah.
Yeah, this does feel man.

682
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,400
Bob, we're getting snooty.
I just realized that there's

683
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,700
like I mean there's so many
Cheap whiskey like wild turkey

684
00:37:44,700 --> 00:37:48,300
Rare Breed cost less than this.
Yeah, no.

685
00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:52,600
I guess what I'm saying, is it?
I don't know how to say this

686
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,600
nicely, if somebody is
SuperDuper crazy pumped about

687
00:37:56,700 --> 00:37:59,500
angels Envy.
It probably means that they're

688
00:37:59,500 --> 00:38:03,400
not paying close attention to
the Ski World right now, which

689
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,100
is okay like, like nobody has to
drink what you want to drink.

690
00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:09,700
I don't give a rip if you like
inches, then feed that awesome.

691
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,200
But if somebody offers it to
you, in the really excited about

692
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,700
it, just smile and thank them
and go, man, thank you so much

693
00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:20,100
for sharing your whiskey with
me.

694
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,100
Thank you so much for sharing
your Secondhand Lions with me.

695
00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:29,200
I totally get it.
All right, bro, we're about to

696
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,600
throw, just I've had it down and
I just messing with you.

697
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,800
Now, I'm with you man.
Like if this is somebody's

698
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,400
favorite whiskey, like there's a
reason for it and you're right.

699
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,200
Brad, it probably is somebody.
That's kind of just getting

700
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,600
started out in the world of
Whiskey's, and they're branching

701
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,900
out into into finished
Whiskey's, that's fantastic, but

702
00:38:46,900 --> 00:38:49,800
I do think if you dig a Little
Deeper, there's a lot better out

703
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,600
there and you can probably get
get it at a similar price, if

704
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,000
not a little cheaper, but that's
how we feel about it.

705
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,100
Honestly, if you feel
differently, let us know.

706
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:01,200
Head over to our Instagram
Pages.

707
00:39:01,300 --> 00:39:04,900
Tell Us how wrong we are.
Until we hear from you, though,

708
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:09,000
we need to get back into talking
about one of the greatest movies

709
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:13,100
ever, created by Humanity,
second hand line.

710
00:39:13,100 --> 00:39:14,900
Bob, what do you say?
Let's get to it.

711
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,800
All right, that was Angel's
Envia, whiskey, that we are

712
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:25,700
decidedly, not impressed with no
bueno, not so much.

713
00:39:25,700 --> 00:39:29,500
But Brad, it's Redeemed by this
movie which I like a lot.

714
00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:31,600
I need you to know that I
actually enjoyed myself watching

715
00:39:31,700 --> 00:39:34,300
In this movie, I'm really glad
to hear that Bob.

716
00:39:34,300 --> 00:39:37,500
And I see though into ice, I
want you to go into extreme

717
00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:39,800
detail as to why you like this
movie.

718
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,900
I will, before my final score,
but before I get there, I

719
00:39:42,900 --> 00:39:47,300
preface I use that as a preface
to talk about Kyra Sedgwick who

720
00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:53,300
is just hammin it up, man.
It in a way that's like my God,

721
00:39:53,300 --> 00:39:55,200
why did no one restrain her from
doing this?

722
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,700
Like, she's not good.
Brad.

723
00:39:57,700 --> 00:40:00,900
She's not good in this movie.
And, and I need to know your

724
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:02,500
thoughts on her.
Her in this movie.

725
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:08,400
I think that she works better as
a plot device than the actual

726
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,100
performance.
That was good, huh?

727
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,900
Like I'm with you, dude, if
there is a problem with this

728
00:40:14,900 --> 00:40:20,600
movie in general it's that it
goes way over the top on a lot

729
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,800
of different fronts, right?
It's like way cheesy at points,

730
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:30,400
its way emotional and heartfelt
at points and it's way over the

731
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,200
top with her performance of I've
just an uncaring mother.

732
00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:38,400
I think it leads to some
incredibly important moments of

733
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,600
the movie though and so I feel
like I'm able to forgive some of

734
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:47,400
her performance for the fact
that it leads to so many

735
00:40:47,700 --> 00:40:51,300
development points for Walter
like that first time that he

736
00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:53,700
just he admits out loud to his
uncle's.

737
00:40:53,700 --> 00:40:56,800
Like yeah like my mom lied to
me.

738
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,500
Like she always does.
And then there's just something

739
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:05,100
beautiful about that moment when
Duvall just says you know well

740
00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:08,900
shoot kid were sorry you have a
lousy damn mother right?

741
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,000
Like there's something so
honoring about that moment that

742
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,700
for me it's that it's moments
like that that make me go, you

743
00:41:17,700 --> 00:41:21,800
know what, like we need a
ridiculous over-the-top.

744
00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:27,100
Just terrible mother in order to
fit that emotional moment.

745
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:29,800
Yeah, I agree.
I do I still think That the

746
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,000
character could have been played
in a way that came across a

747
00:41:33,008 --> 00:41:35,700
little more believable, by a
different actress, but I'm with

748
00:41:35,700 --> 00:41:36,800
you.
Like I don't I don't have a

749
00:41:36,808 --> 00:41:41,200
problem with the character being
as like fake and over-the-top as

750
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,100
she is.
I think part of its just that

751
00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:46,500
like Kyra, Sedgwick is a really
good TV actress, you know, she

752
00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:49,900
had that showed the closer for a
long time, which is good.

753
00:41:49,900 --> 00:41:52,600
It's fine.
It's a good show but like, you

754
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,700
know what I mean, like, there's
just there's a, there's a level

755
00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:57,800
of difference there and I do I I
was going to say, I think one of

756
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,700
the reasons this comes across
The TV movie is because a lot

757
00:42:01,700 --> 00:42:07,200
pretty much all of the actors
and actresses outside of Cain,

758
00:42:07,300 --> 00:42:11,900
Duvall, and Osment are made for
TV, kind of actors.

759
00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:16,700
And I, I say that with all the
love in the world, I'm going to

760
00:42:16,700 --> 00:42:22,300
give a quick shout-out.
So there's a online, Dungeons &

761
00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:26,000
Dragons, podcast called critical
role.

762
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:28,700
And one of the persons who plays
in that is guy named Travis

763
00:42:28,700 --> 00:42:29,500
Willingham.
Him.

764
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:34,200
Well, early in his career, he
tried some on screen acting and

765
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,800
he landed a role as one of the
four thugs in Secondhand Lions.

766
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,600
And I've now watch hundreds of
hours of this dude play in D&D

767
00:42:44,900 --> 00:42:47,900
and he's one of my favorite
characters on the show and I was

768
00:42:47,900 --> 00:42:51,300
literally scrolling through the
cast for this movie and saw

769
00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:55,000
Travis willingham's name come up
and I was like what?

770
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,400
I don't think my mind had ever
been as blown and like I said,

771
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,700
got nothing but For the guy.
But I think he would even admit,

772
00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:04,500
he's not necessarily a movie
actor.

773
00:43:04,500 --> 00:43:06,300
Yeah.
And a lot of the people in this

774
00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:12,300
film who don't have a big name
that you know, not exactly built

775
00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:17,400
for the the big screen.
I especially think about the

776
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,600
funny thing for me is I don't
think of Kyra Sedgwick

777
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,500
performances over the top
partially just because of her

778
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:27,100
boyfriend Stan played by a guy
named Nikki cat.

779
00:43:27,100 --> 00:43:28,800
Yes, dude.
Who is who?

780
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,700
Evie actor, he was on a show.
I watched back in the early

781
00:43:31,700 --> 00:43:34,700
2000s called Boston Public.
He was my, are you guys hearing

782
00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:36,800
person on that show?
So he came up and I was like,

783
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,100
I'm Nikki cat, of course.
Yeah.

784
00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:43,600
And he is wildly over the top,
he is hitting a twelve-year-old,

785
00:43:44,300 --> 00:43:47,200
it's it's intense.
So, I don't know the

786
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,100
Ridiculousness of his
performance, almost like just

787
00:43:51,100 --> 00:43:54,300
like Doles, the craziness of
Kyra Sedgwick.

788
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,200
So with all that said though, I
kind of want to segue into final

789
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,700
scores here.
And there's two movies that I

790
00:44:00,700 --> 00:44:02,800
still feel like.
I feel like I want to compare

791
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,300
this one to the first one is a
movie that we're going to be

792
00:44:05,300 --> 00:44:08,500
watching in the next.
I assume few weeks here.

793
00:44:08,900 --> 00:44:11,700
It's called Elizabethtown.
It's a movie by Cameron Crowe.

794
00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:15,300
The guy that did Almost Famous.
And in a lot of ways, it has

795
00:44:15,300 --> 00:44:18,200
like the opposite problem of
this movie where I feel like

796
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,100
this movie has a really solid
script and really poor

797
00:44:21,100 --> 00:44:23,800
Direction.
Elizabethtown is a very

798
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,600
competently made movie.
Where the script is just trying

799
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,800
to do way too many things at
once and if you tighten that up

800
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,700
a little bit, I feel like
there's a great movie in it and

801
00:44:33,700 --> 00:44:35,000
I kind of feel the same way
here.

802
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:40,000
Like Secondhand Lions has a
legitimately great coming-of-age

803
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,700
film inside of it and I feel
like the Actors and The Script

804
00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:48,300
are working as hard as they
possibly can, to overcome the

805
00:44:48,300 --> 00:44:51,900
deficiencies of, like, the
camerawork the editing and the

806
00:44:51,908 --> 00:44:55,300
direction.
And still, I look at this movie,

807
00:44:55,300 --> 00:44:57,500
Brad.
And I'm like, yeah but I'm just

808
00:44:57,500 --> 00:45:01,300
I'm really Charmed by it and it
reminds me of a movie I saw when

809
00:45:01,300 --> 00:45:04,900
I was 10 years old called My Dog
Skip got and if you've ever seen

810
00:45:04,900 --> 00:45:09,400
that movie, it is so eerily
similar to this movie in that.

811
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:14,400
It's, you know, it's about a boy
coming of age in the 1950s, who

812
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,500
is awkward and, you know, he's
picked on.

813
00:45:16,500 --> 00:45:19,300
And in that movie, it's the fact
that he gets this dis childhood

814
00:45:19,300 --> 00:45:22,900
dog that goes with him through
his whole coming-of-age process.

815
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,600
Yeah, I've seen that movie.
Yeah.

816
00:45:24,700 --> 00:45:29,200
And and you know, It's book
ended with him as a grown-up,

817
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,300
like, finding out that is, you
know, his dog died.

818
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,700
And that's like, Dude, oh my
gosh, I have never cried harder

819
00:45:34,700 --> 00:45:38,400
at a movie, then I cry at My Dog
Skip but, but that movie too is

820
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,000
like, it's not the best directed
movie.

821
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,600
It kind of looks like a TV
movie.

822
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,200
It's really corny, it's really
cheesy.

823
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,500
There's a lot of things in the
script that are like that would

824
00:45:47,500 --> 00:45:51,000
never happen in real life and
it's the same as this and yet,

825
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,400
like there's a reason I didn't
put my dog Skip on my list for

826
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,400
this time around because I'm
like Like I am not ready to go

827
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,000
back and watch that movie and
like doing it for not being

828
00:46:01,100 --> 00:46:05,300
great because to ten-year-old me
like that movie was emotionally

829
00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:08,300
devastating and also like
mental.

830
00:46:08,300 --> 00:46:11,300
It meant a lot to me.
And so that's why it's hard to

831
00:46:11,300 --> 00:46:14,500
like objectively rate, movies,
like this, Brad I think

832
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,900
objectively speaking.
This is like a six and a half to

833
00:46:17,900 --> 00:46:21,500
a 7 like quality wise in terms
of the direction and think and

834
00:46:21,500 --> 00:46:24,800
what you see on the screen in
terms of what it could be, this

835
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:29,900
could be A 9 out of 10 and and I
enjoyed it a whole heck of a

836
00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:32,700
lot.
So I think I'll give it a seven

837
00:46:32,700 --> 00:46:34,000
and a half.
Brad, I'm going to split the

838
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,100
difference here but that's a
seven and a half that I think

839
00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:40,800
comes with a huge caveat.
It's not like, you know, like

840
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,800
I'm crapping on this movie, it's
just that I recognize both the

841
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,700
limitations of it and also I
recognize how this can be your

842
00:46:48,700 --> 00:46:51,400
favorite movie.
So I hope that scores acceptable

843
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,600
to you.
Yeah, no, I dude, I get it.

844
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,900
I've come to terms with.
The fact that this is

845
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,300
objectively, not a great movie.
I totally understand that, I

846
00:47:01,308 --> 00:47:06,400
think what I hope people hear
from me in reviewing like I

847
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,200
said, probably a top three movie
for me.

848
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,100
I hope that they hear and
understand that if you're

849
00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:15,900
willing to accept the flaws for
what they are.

850
00:47:16,100 --> 00:47:20,300
If you're willing to believe in
the world that McKinley's is

851
00:47:20,300 --> 00:47:27,100
trying to create, I think you'll
find genuinely three phenomenal

852
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:30,900
performances from the leads.
You'll find a story that's worth

853
00:47:30,900 --> 00:47:36,100
believing in and you'll find an
opportunity to have a lot more

854
00:47:36,100 --> 00:47:38,500
feels than you thought you would
feel.

855
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,700
I think it's really summed up.
I don't remember exactly.

856
00:47:41,700 --> 00:47:44,700
I think this might have been the
Detroit newspaper that the

857
00:47:44,700 --> 00:47:48,000
review is written, but I really
think the best way to sum up.

858
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,800
This movie is from this review,
I read and it said this most

859
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,300
family films, aimed too low.
So perhaps there should be a

860
00:47:56,300 --> 00:48:00,000
hearty Applause for one that
tries to do too much good and

861
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,000
its small space of time.
And like, I read that and I was

862
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,500
like yes, that person
understands this movie like I'm

863
00:48:08,500 --> 00:48:09,400
with you.
Dude.

864
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,600
Feels like it was made for TV
feels like if they had a good

865
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,900
director and a good
cinematographer at the helm that

866
00:48:15,900 --> 00:48:19,100
this movie could have been an
all-time great.

867
00:48:19,500 --> 00:48:23,600
But as it is, if you're willing
to sit with some of the flaws in

868
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,800
this film and and set them to
the side and pay attention to

869
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,700
the story, pay attention to the
small moments like when when

870
00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:35,100
Walter is sitting with them at
the gas station and he's

871
00:48:35,100 --> 00:48:38,000
thinking about running away and
he has that little moment of

872
00:48:38,008 --> 00:48:41,000
saying like, I've been in the
group homes before.

873
00:48:42,100 --> 00:48:46,600
I'm not going back.
Like, it's moments, like that,

874
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:51,400
that just get me every single
time I come back to this film,

875
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,900
The, the laughs are just out of
this world.

876
00:48:55,900 --> 00:48:58,000
There's so much, I love about
this movie.

877
00:48:58,300 --> 00:49:01,700
I'm going to give it a 10 out of
10 with the caveat of like I got

878
00:49:01,700 --> 00:49:03,500
it, dude.
If I hadn't watched this movie

879
00:49:03,500 --> 00:49:06,800
growing up, I'd probably watch
it and give it like a seven and

880
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,800
a half.
Maybe an eight, but it's a 10.

881
00:49:08,900 --> 00:49:10,700
210 for me.
All right, so we're coming out

882
00:49:10,700 --> 00:49:13,200
to an eight point seven five out
of ten.

883
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,600
We would love to know what you
think.

884
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,200
Have you seen Secondhand Lions?
If so does it have a special

885
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,000
place in your heart?
Like it does with Brad?

886
00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:24,700
You can find us to tell us all
about it on Facebook, Twitter or

887
00:49:24,700 --> 00:49:28,400
Instagram at film whiskey, or
you can join the conversation

888
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,700
with us directly jump onto our
Discord.

889
00:49:30,700 --> 00:49:33,400
We have daily conversation with
our fans over there.

890
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,300
I just said the word fans.
That sounds weird.

891
00:49:36,900 --> 00:49:40,100
We're just normal people but we
have People who like to talk to

892
00:49:40,100 --> 00:49:43,500
us about movies and Whiskey on
our Discord, you can find the

893
00:49:43,500 --> 00:49:47,500
link to it at the end of every
single set of our show notes

894
00:49:47,500 --> 00:49:51,200
Brad I have the rest of my
movies already ready to go in

895
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,900
this wheel randomizer here I'm
going to spin the wheel but as

896
00:49:54,900 --> 00:49:58,000
always I need you to make some
wheel spinning sounds for me.

897
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,800
I'm just going to sing the the
song from from Secondhand Lions

898
00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:08,800
dudn't and Danton didn't do
Nothin, Sean pom, pom, pom pom.

899
00:50:08,900 --> 00:50:13,100
Palm sham pom, pom, pom, pom
pom.

900
00:50:13,100 --> 00:50:15,600
And I'm excited for this one,
another movie Brad.

901
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,400
If I'm being frank, that is
like, not a 10 out of 10, but

902
00:50:19,900 --> 00:50:23,200
hits me in the warm fuzzies.
The way that this movie does, it

903
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:28,300
is Ben's right in the goat, just
Square in the nards, all right?

904
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:33,900
It is, it's Ben Stiller's 2013
film, The Secret Life of Walter

905
00:50:33,900 --> 00:50:36,400
Mitty.
I'm, I'm really excited for that

906
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:37,900
one, man.
I'm smiling already.

907
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,800
I can't.
Have you seen it before?

908
00:50:40,100 --> 00:50:45,700
I think, I watched it once maybe
at your house.

909
00:50:45,700 --> 00:50:48,100
Hmm, interesting.
I feel like the time when you

910
00:50:48,100 --> 00:50:50,000
guys are out of town, but Haley
and I were staying at your

911
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:54,600
place.
All right, now, because we're

912
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,700
staying down.
There are no, I figured it out.

913
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,800
It's when we were down visiting
and we were staying with y'all

914
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,800
for a few days.
Checking out the Seminary.

915
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,800
You guys were both out and we
watched Inception one day and I

916
00:51:06,808 --> 00:51:08,800
think we watch The Secret Life
of Walter.

917
00:51:08,900 --> 00:51:10,900
Or maybe the other day.
Well, you're going to watch it

918
00:51:10,900 --> 00:51:13,200
again.
I led you to watching Secondhand

919
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,100
Lions and you led me to watch
and Secret Life of Walter Mitty.

920
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,600
All right, man, we're going to
be back next Monday with that

921
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,900
one, but until then I'm Bob
book, I'm Brad G and we'll see

922
00:51:22,900 --> 00:51:23,600
you next time.