Season Seven Bracket Challenge, Part 2 / Thomas H. Handy Sazerac Rye
Bob and Brad dive into the cinematic battlefield with the remaining 8 films from this season. It's not just about movies; the episode is also flavored with the exclusive tasting of the 2023 Thomas H. Handy Sazerac Rye from the Buffalo Trace Antique Collection. Get ready for intense debates, unexpected twists, and a whiskey experience like no other as we crown the ultimate champion of our Movie Madness Bracket.
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We're tackling the final eight films in our Movie Madness Bracket Challenge, where cinematic gems clash for the title of the ultimate film champion.
The Matchups: It's a showdown of giants with Ran vs. City Lights – a battle of epic storytelling against timeless comedy. Rope takes on Seven Samurai in a debate that’s as thrilling as the films themselves. The intensity ramps up with The Best Years of Our Lives vs. Paths of Glory – a deep dive into war's emotional and moral complexities. And brace yourself for Sabrina vs. Unforgiven, where romance meets gritty realism.
As we dissect these classics, we're also sipping on the revered Thomas H. Handy Sazerac Rye. Expect detailed tasting notes and why this whiskey is a collector's dream. And when the debates heat up, the Coin of Destiny makes its thrilling return to break stalemates.
Whether you're a cinephile, a casual movie watcher, or a whiskey aficionado, there’s something here for everyone.
So, who will emerge as the champion? Tune in, grab your favorite drink, and join us in this unforgettable cinematic journey!
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Today on the Film and Whiskey
Podcast, I will be drinking my
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sorrows away as every movie I
ever loved has been eliminated.
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And to accomplish that feat,
we're returning to Brad's all
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time favorite whiskey brand.
It's going to be a hell of a
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hell of an episode, boys.
This is the.
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Film and Whiskey Podcast.
Well, hey, everybody.
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Welcome into the Film and
Whiskey Podcast.
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I'm Bob Book.
I'm getting drunk.
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Yes, you are.
And your name for the time being
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is no, I'm not getting drunk,
Bob.
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I'm just sad.
I'm drunk on my tears, I think.
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What's your name, man?
Jeez, Bob, if people don't know
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who I am by now.
That's true.
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That's true.
Co host Jake Gyllenhaal.
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All right.
So Jake and I call call me Jake.
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Jake and I are finishing out
season seven of Film and Whiskey
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today because we are rounding
out our bracket challenge.
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Now if you have not listened to
part one of the bracket
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challenge, I guess honestly, I
mean like you did miss some
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stuff, but you're catching the
correct episode 'cause this is
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where we pick the winner, and
here in America we only care
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about winners.
We started with 32 movies from
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season seven that we put into a
Madness style bracket.
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We have eliminated, I don't know
how many of them now, Brad 24 of
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them.
We went through two rounds, the
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round of 32 and the round of 16.
We're down to the final eight
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films and by the end of today we
will crown the victor, the
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victor of the world.
And while we do it, Brad, I will
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be gazing longingly at this
little mini bottle that's
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sitting next to me right now
because after seven seasons, we
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have finally arrived.
Brad, we got a press release.
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We've been drinking B Tac for
years now, Bob.
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Yeah, we have our own B tac.
Well, wait, wait to not let me
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reveal what we're drinking.
I hate when you undercut me like
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this, Bob.
Any Any chance I get to
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undercut?
Not only you.
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But also Buffalo Trace, Well,
and also to just say like,
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what's the worst possible audio
that we can record?
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And Brad's like, I got it, Let
me not build to that.
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We're drinking B TAC people.
Hooray.
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We got a A Buffalo Trace press
release that said, hey, B Tac's
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coming out.
And as I do every year, I said,
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hey, give me some of that.
And this year they said sure.
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And they sent Brad and I each a
sample.
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And they said, is that how you
phrase it?
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Hey comma, space, space give me
some adapt.
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Give me that.
Yeah, I wonder why you've never
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gotten.
I know, right?
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Well, even now it's not like we
have the full lineup.
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They told us we can pick only
one to try, and we've only had a
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couple of them, Brad, but the
one that we've loved the most.
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And I think still to this day,
our highest regarded whiskey in
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film and whiskey history is the
Thomas H Handy Sazerac Rye.
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I believe the one we tried was
the 2019 vintage, so we're
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trying the 2023 version today,
Brad.
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Four years later, we're back.
Baby, we won't be drinking it
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just yet, but you know, just to
tease things.
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I'm very excited for this.
Yeah, I'm super excited too,
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man.
It's rye whiskey.
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It's barrel strength.
It is some of the most sought
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after whiskey in the world.
So I yes, I'm excited to drink
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this, Bob.
Well, before we get into that
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Brad, we need to return to our
bracket.
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Now, like I said, we left off
with this thing still containing
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8 films and we need to eliminate
seven of those movies from
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existence.
So for a refresher, our 8
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remaining films are Ron, City
Lights, Rope, 7 Samurai, The
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Best Years of Our Lives, Paths
of Glory, Sabrina, and
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Unforgiven.
One of the last comments we made
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last week, Brad, was that this
would not have been my final
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eight.
It definitely wouldn't have been
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your final eight.
I don't know that I can
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necessarily say this is the
correct final eight, but this is
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what we have, man.
And I think it's going to make
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for some really interesting
conversations, especially coming
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from your end, noted Hater.
Of at least two of these movies,
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Yeah, I have three of my final
eight still in the bracket.
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Let me see what I'm working with
on my bracket here Brad.
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Bob's Bob's going to be like oh
which what am I working 08 of
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eight?
I'm.
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So happy I have seven of eight
Brad.
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The only one that I did not get
to the Elite 8 here is Rashaman
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replaced with Ron.
That does make my soul a little
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happier.
That was my winner.
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And I think you know your winner
was was Ikiru.
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Yep, it sure was.
So we're both equally screwed.
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Ran right over it.
All right, man.
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Truck.
Let us dive in with the first
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match up in the round of eight.
Up here in the upper left
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quadrant, which I believe you
call the cruise bracket, we've
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got the number 16 Seed Ron up
against the number nine Seed
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City Lights.
Now this is the player haters
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ball here Brad.
This is your opportunity to
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shine and truly crap on both of
these movies, 'cause I know you
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don't like either of them that
much.
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Yeah, I I like City Lights well
enough.
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Ron was just fine that there
were moments I enjoyed, but
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overall the story was
convoluted.
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It was 40 minutes too long and
man, the colors were bright.
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How did they, How did he do
colors that vibrant?
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Magic.
Cinema.
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Magic.
Magic of cinema, Bradley.
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That's how.
Yeah, man, I there's parts of
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Ron that I really like.
The the few scenes that really
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stick in my head from that are
the kind of ridiculous, like
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fight scenes where they've
already taken everything except
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for like the upper room of the
castle and they just like pop in
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and out and shoot arrows up the
the, the place.
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And all of a sudden there's
blood spreading everywhere that
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really sticks in my brain.
And then all of the little
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formations of troops like just
running around in circles and
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every single troop has this
giant banner that's like just
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brilliantly coloured and
beautiful like that.
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All that stuff.
It feels like a little toy army
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running around and it's gorgeous
and yet ridiculous and very
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ridiculous.
City lights.
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City Lights.
What was that movie again?
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Wow.
Wow.
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City Lights is the movie in
which Charlie Chaplin is
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courting a blind girl, and in
order to pay for her operation,
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he befriends A drunken and
suicidal millionaire, gets
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himself into a bunch of
shenanigans.
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There's a great boxing set piece
in that movie.
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Oh dude, I forgot about the
boxing set piece.
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Yeah, City Lights moves on.
That boxing set piece was.
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So good.
Let it be known, Akira
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Kurosawa's Ron.
Not enough boxing.
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Not nearly enough.
Just had more pugilism, that
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movie would have won here.
Here's the thing, man.
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That is one of the funniest
scenes I've ever seen.
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Oh, it's so good.
It's like just brilliantly timed
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out.
It almost feels like a physical
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version, like a physical, comedy
version of who's on 1st, You
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know what I mean?
Like the way the way he plays
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rope, a dope with the referee
and his opponent and the way he
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keeps tricking him into thinking
something isn't what it actually
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is.
Like, it just feels like Abbott
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and Costello are doing that
boxing match.
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It's it's pitch perfect.
Fun fact, I just looked at my
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bracket, Brad.
Even though Rashaman was the
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number one seed in my list,
apparently I could not part with
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it because City Lights is
actually the champion of my
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bracket.
Wait, what?
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Yeah.
What?
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Yeah, Bob, what's wrong with
you?
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I I put Rashaman above it, and
then when it came time to throw
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one into the fiery furnace, I
was like, I can't do it to my
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boy.
You know what the problem with
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Rashaman is?
Not enough boxing.
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All right, so City Lights is our
first entrant into the Final
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Four.
Here we're moving down into the
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lower left area of the bracket.
For our next match up, the
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number four Seed rope up against
the number 12 Seed 7 Samurai.
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Now this is a battle of films
that Bob Books really likes.
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Brad, you you like Rope more
than I remembered you liking it
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based on your rankings, but
still not as much as Dial M for
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Murder 7.
Samurai is a movie that.
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I I think you even forgot in the
last episode how highly you
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rated it, 'cause you were like,
you know, I think I did give it
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a 9 1/2 or something like that.
So yeah, I'm interested to hear
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like, which one comes away with
the victory in your mind here.
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I think 7 Samurai does.
I think that Rope is a really
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great movie that other people
have done similar work.
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I mean, honestly, I think about
high and low and and there's a
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level of similarity in the way
it plays out in the apartment
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and the nerves and the tension
where I'm like I I've seen rope
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before in in various ways.
I don't think I've seen
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something quite like 7 Samurai
and and I say that knowing that
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Seven Samurai inspired a million
spin offs and it's almost a
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trope in its own right.
But to see what Kurosawa did
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with Seven Samurai all the way
back in in what was it 5253
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like?
It's an incredible film.
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It's a great feat of film making
and it's better than Rashomon.
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So I I'm just going to try to
mention that as often as I can.
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And closer to being a boxing
movie just due to the presence
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of rope, right?
Yeah, Yeah, that.
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Yes, that.
That's true.
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I, I and I'm trying to think, I
feel like Toshiro Mifune would
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like he would totally be down to
get into a boxing match with
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anyone at any point 100%.
So yeah, no, I'll go with my boy
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Mifune and and move him on.
I did put rope moving on in my
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bracket.
I will say this though, I don't
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care which one moves on.
This was by far the hardest of
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the 8:00 to pick a victor for
and.
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You know, I'm going to force a
coin flip here, I guess, but if
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rope loses, it's definitely
losing to a worthy adversary.
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So Brad, you do know that like,
I don't give a rip.
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Which one wins here?
Which means I'm going to win.
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That's true.
It's when you least care, and I
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most care that that things
matter.
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OK, so rope being the higher
ranked seed, it's going to be
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heads. 7.
Samurai is going to be tails.
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Brad, flip the coin of destiny
for a spot in the final four.
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Bob, That's a heads.
The street continues for me,
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man.
You have won 6, dare I say seven
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in a row.
The streak is a lie.
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What is turning into a
statistical improbability, my
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friend?
What is going to happen is I
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will win every single coin flip
until the very, the very last
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one which will be for the
championship and then I will
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lose.
Yes, that's what's going, but at
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that point you'll have won every
single one and so the two in the
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top, you know the the finals
you're going to be happy.
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I will have.
Stacked the deck too much at
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that point.
Somehow I'm not going to flip
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heads or tails.
It's going to be the the point
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OOO 3% where it lands on its
side.
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So, well, sorry Bob, they're
both in the Pirate Furnace now.
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So we have our first two entries
into the film and W4 here, City
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Lights and Rope Brad.
Before we move into the other
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half of our bracket, it's time
for us to give out our end of
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Season Film and Whiskey Awards,
better known as the Filmies.
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The Filmies.
The fact that we still haven't
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thought of a better title for
these is it's a perfect title.
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It's a perfect title, Bob.
It's not it apply any film
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related award could be called
the filmies.
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Like, there's nothing unique
about these at all.
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The film.
They're not the filmies, Bob.
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They're the film and whiskey
filmies.
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Got it, got it.
At the end of every season we do
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these film and whiskey awards.
Some of them are based on actual
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data and some of them are based
on what Brad ate for breakfast
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that morning.
The first three that we're going
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to get into are based on cold,
hard data.
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This is always fun for me, this.
Is always fun for me because
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Brad forgets that we do these
every season and so I really do
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catch him off guard with these
first three.
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What we're looking at is the
scores that we gave to a film
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when we rated it versus what the
general public thought of that
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movie, and we call that from the
IMDb rating.
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So Brad, the first award we're
giving out today is probably the
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most negative award we give out,
and that is most overrated
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movie.
This is where we measure the
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disparity between our low score
and the general public's high
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score.
So which movie would you peg as
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being most overrated this year?
Oh man, what's a movie that?
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Oh, The Shining.
That was confident that that
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that has to be.
I mean we we didn't give Shining
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like a crazy low score, but I I
feel like it has to be The
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Shining.
It is not The Shining, oh oh
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great dictator.
No.
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Oh, I want you to guess like all
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All right.
Is it notorious?
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It is Notorious, Brad.
Third time's the charm.
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We came out to a 6.75 on average
on Notorious.
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Versus an 8.2 on IMDb.
That is a Top 250 movie.
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Notorious is a Top 250 movie.
It sure is.
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Man, what?
That's insane.
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Remember I told you Roger Ebert
called it one of the 10 greatest
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films ever made.
Yeah, Roger Ebert.
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What does he know?
Yeah, yeah.
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All right, so Hitchcock, come
collect your posthumous
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overrated award.
As we move into perhaps my
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favorite award, the complete
opposite, the most underrated,
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The movie that Brad and I will
champion until the day we die
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versus the general public.
Brad, which do you think was the
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most underrated film this year?
Oh man, I feel like Paz A Glory
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might be up there.
I think we both gave that a 10
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or maybe maybe we average out to
9.75.
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So I I would say Paz A Glory has
a shot.
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Maybe Dial M for murder.
No, everybody likes Dial M for
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murder.
Dial.
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M was close.
Oh, really?
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OK.
I'm gonna tell you what it was,
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and then I'll tell you why This
is a hard one to predict.
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Brad, the winner is the best
years of our lives, OK?
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We gave that movie.
I expected that.
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Well, it's 'cause we gave that
movie A10 and it is a really
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highly rated movie on IMDb.
Again, I think it's top 250.
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It has an 8.1 average.
And when you think in terms of
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like IMDb averages, 8.1 is
incredible because a Nine is the
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highest rated movie of all time.
Yeah, so like when we give it
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A10, we've got a 1.9 point
disparity here.
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But like, people love this
movie.
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It's not.
It's not as if like we gave a
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movie A10 that had a 6.2 on
IMDb.
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Yeah, no, I I think for me
anytime I see something at 7.8
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and higher on IMDb, I'm
automatically like oh OK, this
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is probably got a chance of
being a good movie.
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Except for Bohemian Rhapsody,
which I just I I will never
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understand how folks got so
bamboozled by that movie.
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Bob, can we can we make like a
blood pact to at least like 6 *
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a season Just rip into Bohemian
Rhapsody?
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It's it's so bad.
It's a horrendous like it is one
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of the fakest movies I've ever
seen in my life.
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Like if you've been listening
the podcast for a while, I'm
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very big on sincere filmmaking
and performances and just things
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that feel authentically lived
in.
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That is the least authentic
movie I've ever seen in my life.
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Like, I would rather watch
General Hospital for like an
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authentic, meaningful, emotional
experience than Bohemian
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Rhapsody.
Boom.
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There it is.
And that is a perfect segue into
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our our third award of the day
here, the most divisive or do
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you say divisive or divisive?
Which kind of person are you?
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It depends on how Snooty I'm
feeling.
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Yeah, I've never heard a non
Snooty person say divisive,
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right?
You know what I mean?
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All right, so this is where Brad
and I have the biggest disparity
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in our scores.
It could be because Brad rated
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something higher than me or I
rated something higher than he
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did.
Which movie sticks out to you?
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Brad is the most likely
candidate for most divisive
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Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless
Mind final answer.
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That is the winner every season,
forever, eternally be the
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winner.
Oh man, it's got to be an Akira
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Rashman.
Yeah, Rashman.
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Is the easy choice here.
I gave it A10.
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I think it's one of the best
films ever made.
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Brad gave it a 6.5 for for a
full 35% difference here.
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Yeah, that's generous man.
I I almost gave it like a 5 1/2
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or a six.
That is crazy, dude.
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I I yeah, that's that's what I'm
going to force you to rewatch
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one of these days, Bob, I want
you to give me 3 metaphors on
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how crazy it is.
No.
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Because we have to fit three
more awards in here, Brad, we're
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moving into the segment of Brad
G awards.
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These are completely off the top
of Brad's head, which is the
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best way to do this.
And each season we give out an
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award starting with the most
unexpected.
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Now what this is, is, is based
on Brad's impression of the
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film, it could be something that
he was not looking forward to
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that caught him by surprise.
It could be something that he
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was looking forward to that even
then exceeded expectations.
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Brad, as you look at this
season's list of movies, what
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was the most unexpected man?
Bob, I I would say that Akiru
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would be in the running,
although you had kind of
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described the film to me before
and I was pretty intrigued.
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So you know, pretty intrigued
would say like yeah, hopefully
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that's an 8 out of 1010 out of
10 is a little bit of a jump.
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Dunkirk definitely took me by
surprise.
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I I had heard mixed things on
that as far as Nolan films go
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and I I ended up really, really
liking it.
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I think I'm going to go not
because my initial watch was the
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greatest thing ever.
I'm going to go with high and
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low.
I think how much that movie has
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captured me post watching is one
of the most unexpected things
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that's happened this season.
I love it when that happens.
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Like, you know, because I
always.
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I never want to get my hopes up
that you're going to change your
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opinion on something, and it's
not as if you had a low opinion
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of that movie.
But yeah, I I think I gave it an
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8 1/2.
Right.
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But it's just always great when
you watch a movie and then you
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just can't shake it afterwards
and it completely, it doesn't
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change your criticisms.
It doesn't mean it's a perfect
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movie or it doesn't have flaws,
but like, it just gets its hooks
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into you, Yeah.
Yeah, 100%.
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I mean, Fargo's still like that.
I I've watched it maybe once or
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maybe twice for sure once since
we watched it and even the after
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that.
I'm like man, Fargo just sticks
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in the brain, man.
It's like there's blood
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spattered on the side of.
My brain all right.
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So high and low is the most
unexpected.
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The flip side of that biggest
let down.
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Maybe a movie that you had seen
before and upon revisit just
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doesn't hold up.
Could be a movie that you really
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built up in your mind and it
lets you down in that way.
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Brad what is the biggest let
down of Season 7?
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Yeah, this one unfortunately is
a little easier.
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I think a top contender for this
award is definitely The Great
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Dictator.
I I was like so excited, 'cause
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this is a movie that I actually
had heard about and you know
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it's this great parody of Hitler
and and it's one of Chaplin's
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finest works and and I just
wasn't impressed.
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Like it was good.
There was some very funny
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moments.
The the moment of him dictating
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as Hitler to the to the typist
was brilliant and has been done
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over and over and is so funny.
I think though the biggest let
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down for me, and I'm placing
this solely at your feet, Bob,
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is rash, man.
I was so excited to get into the
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world of Akira Kurosawa and for
years now you had been telling
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me Rashaman, it's it's it's
accessible.
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It's a 90 minute movie.
You're going to love it, Brad.
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It's so, so good.
And then I sat there and I kept
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waiting for the so, so good part
to happen.
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And then the credits rolled and
it didn't happen, Bob.
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It didn't happen.
I didn't get my great moment.
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Well, I mean, there's not really
much I can say to that, Brad.
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I I understand that it's the
biggest let down for you.
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As I give you a gesture on
camera here that the folks can't
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see, so Brad's biggest let down
is Rashaman.
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Before we move back into the
bracket, do you have any other
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made-up awards you want to give
out this season?
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I 100% have a made-up award.
I feel like I always end up
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giving a a version of this
award, but you you kicked this
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off with the the boxing remarks.
I am curious which character,
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Not not the actor, but which
character could defeat Toshiro
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Mufune's character in Rashomon
in a boxing match And that could
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be Toshiro Mufune from high and
Low.
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Who knows?
Great.
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Great question.
Are you going to answer it for
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us?
No, I'm going to let you answer
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first.
When I got a look at the movies,
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man, boxing, I'll say this I
think that is it.
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George C Scott from Doctor
Strangelove.
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Is he the is he the crazy?
Like hard ass general?
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I think that that would be a
perfect film.
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Just a little short them, like
preparing for the fight for like
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10 minutes and then a boxing
match for another 10 minutes
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would be one of the funniest
films ever done.
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OK, I I have two movies in mind.
I have to ask a really horrible
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question.
I love really horrible
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questions.
Is is Homer from Best Years of
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Our Lives disqualified?
Because if not, I think he's
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really got a chance to win that
match that is so bad.
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I'm just Listen, man, you asked
the question, who would win?
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I'm just saying.
I mean, it's a boxing match, so
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they're still going to strap
boxing gloves on it.
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Oh, that's fair.
OK, well then my answer is Judah
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Ben Hur.
Let's go dude.
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My boy Charlton is going to mess
up to Shira buffooning.
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All right, so those are our
highly controversial film and
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whiskey awards for season seven.
Let's get back into this
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bracket, Brad.
All right, Well, Speaking of
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Homer and his boxing abilities,
we're moving into the upper
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right quadrant of our bracket.
Where we have the best years of
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our lives, our number two
overall seed facing off against
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paths of glory, the seven seed.
This is well, it might be the
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highest ranked match up of all
of these Brad in terms of like
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the seeding, but this might have
been the easiest pick for me in
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terms of what is moving forward.
That's interesting.
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I Here's the thing, Bob.
I didn't tell you this last
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time.
My finals match up was Kiru
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versus High and Low.
Wow, I was very big.
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So you you do like Kurosawa more
than more than you let on.
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Yeah.
And I told you before we started
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recording, Hey, Bob, I I think
you'd actually really like how
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my bracket shook out.
And you're like, no, Brad,
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you're a peasant.
That's true.
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Get that weak stuff out of here.
That's usually what I say.
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It's Bob's.
Bob's go to phrase, get that
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weak stuff out of here.
OK, so but high and low has been
434
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,440
eliminated in in favor of Paths
of Glory.
435
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,760
So what made this a challenging
match up with Best Years of our
436
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,280
Lives?
Well, I I really love Best Years
437
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,280
of our lives.
But as I considered it compared
438
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,840
to Paths of Glory, there there's
enough similarity and themes
439
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,520
that I it just took me.
It gave me an opportunity to
440
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,240
really reflect on Paths of Glory
and man, oh man, I like that
441
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,000
movie, Bob.
So that's what's moving on for
442
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,240
you.
I I haven't thought about like
443
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,520
I've thought about it.
I haven't decided yet.
444
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,920
That's that's where I'm at.
So tell tell me about about best
445
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,000
years of your lives.
I did move best years of our
446
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,720
lives on and this is the thing I
gave the movie A10 Brad.
447
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,640
It's probably like my softest 10
of all time.
448
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,120
Like I it's it's a 10 based on
the effect it has on you.
449
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,160
I don't know if that makes
sense, but like, it is a hokey
450
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,720
movie.
It has cheesy moments.
451
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,720
It also has really earnest and
sincere and well earned moments
452
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,800
of emotion.
I just think that like I I can
453
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,800
understand someone watching that
movie and appreciating it but
454
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,400
not loving it.
But I still at the end of the
455
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,520
day, I just moved it on over
Paths of Glory, a movie that.
456
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,360
I used to be in my top 50 of all
time.
457
00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:27,280
That is kind of moved down, you
know, to be like a 9 1/2 out of
458
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,320
10 for me now.
But again, I don't know that you
459
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,720
can really make a wrong choice
here.
460
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,440
These are both really, really
great movies about war and the
461
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,920
effects it has on people.
Yeah.
462
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,680
And I think that's why I was
starting to more seriously
463
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,640
consider Paths of Glory.
I'm with you that that Best
464
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,360
Years of Our Lives is a soft 10,
and I think it's a deserved soft
465
00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:51,880
10.
Like the It's an incredible,
466
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,800
incredible film.
But past the glory, the more I
467
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,920
compared the two, it really
snuck up on me.
468
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,920
I think I'm going to stick with
you, though.
469
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,800
I think that when you take into
consideration the fiery furnace,
470
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,280
the fiery abyss that we're about
to toss a movie into, I don't
471
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,000
think I could get rid of of Best
Years of Our Lives.
472
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,200
All right, so that ended up
being more painless than I
473
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,320
thought it would be.
Best Years of Our Lives is
474
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,760
moving into the film and W4
here, and joining it will be one
475
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,280
of the following two movies.
The three seed Sabrina versus
476
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,480
the six seed Unforgiven.
This is where my Unforgiven
477
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,640
thing comes out.
Brad, like you, you said it
478
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,640
would be the Dark Horse.
And as I looked at these two
479
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,720
movies, Sabrina, a movie that I
was very that might have been my
480
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,560
biggest pleasant surprise of the
season.
481
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,600
I never expected to call that
movie perfect coming into it.
482
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,600
And I I will say like
functionally, structurally it
483
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,000
just, it works perfectly.
It's like a When Harry Met Sally
484
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:59,440
almost kind of movie.
I think Unforgiven is the quote
485
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,600
UN quote greater movie.
Like there's just, it hits
486
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,840
another layer beneath what
Sabrina can reach.
487
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,360
And it has it.
It's just it's like an earworm
488
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:12,120
when you hear a song that you
can't get out of your head.
489
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,680
It is.
It is my what movie were you
490
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,160
saying has stuck with you high
and low?
491
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,680
Like, it's gotten its hooks in
me and I can't get away from
492
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,080
Unforgiven.
And I had to move that into my
493
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:27,480
Final Four Bob.
I've I've been, you know,
494
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,960
putting up with your your love
for Unforgiven.
495
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,720
I'll be honest with you, man.
That's one of the movies that
496
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,000
has stuck with me the least this
year.
497
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,040
It it was a good movie.
I enjoyed it.
498
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:43,760
I don't think that it was the
revolutionary Western that was
499
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,240
advertised for me.
It was great.
500
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,400
It was interesting.
I liked the character arc that
501
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,080
that Clint Eastwood has.
I think that Morgan Freeman is
502
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,560
good, not great.
It feels like a pretty just, you
503
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,760
know, solid A minus Morgan
Freeman performance that he
504
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,360
always turns in.
OK.
505
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,240
Let me ask you this two
questions.
506
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,040
Do you think that Unforgiven was
the best of the Eastwood movies
507
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,880
that we watched this season,
Mystic.
508
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,280
Unforgiven.
And yeah, it was.
509
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,280
OK, related to that, do you
think the fact that every single
510
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,960
Clint Eastwood movie we watched
this season, including a rewatch
511
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:26,320
of $1,000,000 Baby having to do
with the same theme, may have
512
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,400
diluted the power of Unforgiven
a little bit?
513
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,400
You know what I mean?
Like they're they're all saying
514
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,680
the same thing.
I I think Unforgiven does it
515
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,320
better than any of them by a
lot.
516
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,360
But I I think $1,000,000 Baby is
close.
517
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:45,520
I I really like $1,000,000 Baby.
I I think that you are probably
518
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,360
correct that because they're
four such similar themed films.
519
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,200
Yeah, I mean, the impact might
have been diluted a little bit.
520
00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:00,320
Here's the thing, man.
The more I watch about the world
521
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,840
of cinema, the more I'm really
blown away by Clint Eastwood as
522
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,240
a director.
Like, you know how much, how
523
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:12,000
much balls it would take to put
your stamp of approval, your
524
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,840
name as director on a film where
you just kind of casually start
525
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:22,360
filming, tell your actors, yeah,
go whenever you want, and then
526
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,360
when they're done, you say, all
right, wrap it.
527
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,240
We're done.
Like that is the opposite of
528
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,440
auteur theory.
That's like full faith and trust
529
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,200
in the entire team.
Like, not just the actors.
530
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,640
Like you're trusting that your
cameramen got the the shots
531
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,440
exactly the way you wanted, that
the sound crew had everything
532
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,400
set up just right, that like
everything went right with this
533
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,960
thing.
And as we know, film productions
534
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:53,200
are a massive thing.
So I, I, I have grown in respect
535
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:58,160
for Clint Eastwood massively
over the course of this series
536
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,040
that we did on him.
And just, you know, we've
537
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,200
watched a decent amount of Clint
Eastwood at this point.
538
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,320
But, but I I'm going to move
Sabrina on.
539
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,560
Man, I love that movie.
I've loved that movie since I
540
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,800
was a kid.
I think that Audrey Hepburn is
541
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,760
incredible.
I mean, we've already had Audrey
542
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,480
Hepburn as a winner of a season
before she was in charade.
543
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,760
And I think for me, she just
continues to be one of my
544
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,160
favorite actresses of all time.
And on top of that, as you said,
545
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:31,120
Sabrina is a pitch perfect
romantic comedy.
546
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,800
That it it just, it hits all the
right buttons.
547
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,120
It's incredibly earnest and
sincere and funny.
548
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,320
And I yeah, I think, I think
everything about that movie
549
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,720
works.
All right, well, we are headed
550
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,360
for a coin flip here.
I will say even if Sabrina wins,
551
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,240
I will.
I will take a little bit of
552
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,960
credit and feel good about
myself That my incessant
553
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,080
badgering of you, that that
movie is perfect.
554
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,720
Did make you reconsider a little
bit because you were like, yeah,
555
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,120
it's a it's an 8, it's an 8 1/2
whatever you gave it.
556
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,840
But I'm glad that it's hanging
around in your mind still.
557
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,240
Yeah, Yeah.
And and like I said, it's
558
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,800
partially the nostalgia factor
mixed with the fact that, man, I
559
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,600
love that movie.
It it's an it's such an easy
560
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,560
movie to come back to over and
over again, you know what I
561
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,520
mean?
All right, Sabrina will be
562
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,920
heads.
Unforgiven will be tails.
563
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,480
Brad for a spot in the final
four.
564
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:38,560
Flip that coin, Bob.
That is a Heads.
565
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,760
The streak is broken.
The streak is broken, baby.
566
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:49,200
And so we have our final four
films, City Lights, Rope, The
567
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,840
Best Years of Our Lives, and
Sabrina.
568
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:57,320
With Sabrina, a film from 1954,
being the most recent movie
569
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,560
Season seven Final Four.
Man, not crazy.
570
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,080
Anybody listen to this season?
No, man.
571
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,960
All right, well, let's get some
listeners back because it's time
572
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,400
for us to drink some whiskey,
and we've got a very recent
573
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,640
whiskey to try.
Today, it's time for us to drink
574
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,040
some B Tac.
Brad, what do you say?
575
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:22,000
Let's get to it.
All right, so we are trying
576
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:27,000
Thomas H Handy Sazerac Rye, by
far my favorite entry in B TAC
577
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,280
from all the ones that I've
tried.
578
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,640
Brad, this is something that
I've been looking forward to
579
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,840
getting another year, another
version of for a long, long
580
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,000
time.
Yeah, I I remember drinking that
581
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:43,920
first version back in 2019 and
just being blown away by the
582
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,320
depth of flavor, the explosion
of of richness.
583
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,440
And yeah, I remember having very
fond memories of this whiskey,
584
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,640
and I'm excited to try it again.
So according to Buffalo Trace,
585
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,280
this Thomas H Handy Sazerac ride
was distilled in the spring of
586
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:05,000
2017.
It clocks in at 124.9.
587
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,720
Proof it came off the still at
130.
588
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,040
They've got a whole bunch of
stuff here.
589
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,960
No one cares about some of this.
If you really want to know the
590
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,639
warehouse and floor number,
Warehouse S 3rd and 4th floor.
591
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:19,320
It's six years and two months of
age at bottling.
592
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,120
They do not disclose the mash
bill.
593
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,320
Brad, I am not going to say any
more about this because what
594
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,840
really shines on B Tac products
is the tasting notes and it's
595
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,040
time for us to get into it.
I'm drinking it live.
596
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,760
You've tried it already.
Walk me through what you think,
597
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,719
man.
Yeah, this nose is powerful.
598
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,120
The the first thing I noticed
was a really nice sweetness to
599
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,320
it that I I just kind of felt
like was a simple syrup.
600
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,000
And as I moved on from the
simple syrup I it just has this
601
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,920
powerful rye nose.
There's a ton of cinnamon,
602
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,920
nutmeg, bits of dark chocolate.
There's a little bit of tobacco.
603
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:05,480
This is complex, deep there.
There's a lot going on here.
604
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:11,360
I think that it leans so heavily
into the spice arena that I'm a
605
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,160
little worried about the
complexity.
606
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,000
Maybe, but I'll give it an 8 1/2
out of 10.
607
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,480
Yeah, I'm kind of in the same
place, man.
608
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,760
Like this kind of smells like
every really good rye we've had
609
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,400
in the last two years.
Like it?
610
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,840
It smells like a a bourbonny, a
bourbon forward rye.
611
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,920
And there is, there's some dill,
there's some mint here.
612
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,960
I actually almost got like a
blast of like Vick's Vapo rub.
613
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,520
There was, It was so minty at
one point for me, but then it
614
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,400
tipped into the more dill side
of things.
615
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:44,160
It doesn't have the layers that
that 2019 release did.
616
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,120
And it seems, you know, it's
definitely not one note.
617
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,920
But I think from the moment we
popped that bottle of the first
618
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,440
one we tried, Brad, it was like,
oh, this is going to be a life
619
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,200
changing whiskey.
I'm not really getting that yet
620
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,280
and I don't want to Ding it on
that, but like, I need to drink
621
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,920
it to, to learn more.
Yeah.
622
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,000
And and when I got into the
pallet, man, I I'm going to let
623
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,480
you take a sip.
All I could think of was an
624
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,440
atomic fireball.
Like, wow, that does grow.
625
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:23,120
There was so much cinnamon on
this I I don't know if I have
626
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:27,360
ever tasted a whiskey that is so
cinnamon.
627
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:32,360
Forward cinnamon is not my
favorite flavor in in in
628
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,680
candies.
I actually quite despise it.
629
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,320
It is.
It is very tasty here.
630
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,160
I think that my third and 4th
sip when things started to
631
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,560
settle down a little bit.
You still get a huge punch of
632
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:51,200
that cinnamon, but a lot of like
really nice rich vanilla
633
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,680
cheesecake caramel frosting
really started to come through
634
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,840
and the the complexity that I
was worried wasn't there, ended
635
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,280
up arriving.
It just took a little while to
636
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,920
get there because guys I'm going
to tell you what, I have had a
637
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,520
lot of barrel proof whiskey in
my life.
638
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,080
I don't know if any of them has
have punched me as hard as this
639
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:15,640
one.
Did.
640
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,760
Yeah.
Brad, this is an interesting
641
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,960
one.
I think that from the moment it
642
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,200
touches your tongue to the
moment it hits your mid palate.
643
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,960
It's actually softer than I
anticipated it being.
644
00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:32,120
Like, it's it coats your tongue.
There's a lot of dust.
645
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:37,640
There's some kind of raw, not
raw rye grain, but like like you
646
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,400
get the dill, you get some
honey, it's really pleasant.
647
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,200
And then when you go to swallow,
it's like a detonation happens.
648
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,280
And I think if I could use one
word to describe the drinking
649
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,760
experience here, it would be
aftershocks, because you'd think
650
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,600
that the wave has spread across
your tongue.
651
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,960
And then it's like, Nope, here's
BA boom, BA boom.
652
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,280
There's two or three more that
continue to radiate out from the
653
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,200
center of my palate.
It's like this is barrel proof
654
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:09,240
as as barrel proof gets right.
Like it's it tastes hazmat.
655
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,080
Now I will say Brad, we we tried
real hazmat whiskeys when we
656
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,760
were in New York this year,
judging for the New York wine
657
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,560
and spirits competition.
This doesn't have the sort of
658
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,600
like it's leaving blisters on my
palate sensation.
659
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,520
But it's it tastes as if it has
that much alcohol in it.
660
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,840
I don't think it detracts from
it though, but it doesn't have
661
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,760
the viscosity that the the prior
one we tried did.
662
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,640
This is like, this is probably
the best rye I've had in the
663
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,480
last year or so, Brad.
I don't know that I would rank
664
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:47,160
this particular whiskey in like
my 10 best whiskeys I've tried
665
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,640
since we started the podcast.
Kind of a thing, No.
666
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:55,080
I I don't think I would either.
I gave this like an 8 1/2 on the
667
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,720
flavor.
I I think it's really, really
668
00:38:57,720 --> 00:39:02,680
good for me.
Where it it really shines is the
669
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,720
finish I get.
I gave it a 10 out of 10 on the
670
00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:07,400
finish Bob.
Yeah, I'm with you man.
671
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:12,680
The the rye and the cinnamon.
Just bomb that hits your tongue,
672
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:17,880
really settles in nicely after
the palate, and you get a ton of
673
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:22,080
like black pepper leather.
Some of the vanilla really
674
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:27,720
sticks around for a long time.
I The finish here is what you
675
00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:29,320
where you're getting your
money's worth.
676
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,680
Yeah, I totally agree.
And it gets like a a creaminess
677
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,160
to it that almost reminds me of
like a creme brulee on the
678
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,200
finish, something that I haven't
really gotten on a rye in a
679
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,760
long, long time.
I do.
680
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,560
I am kind of wonder like if this
was aged a little bit longer,
681
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,200
would that creaminess?
Carry over to more of the palate
682
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,680
instead of on the finish 'cause
this is reminding me a little
683
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,760
bit more of that Thomas H handy
we tried before.
684
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,960
Brad, this is still really,
really good.
685
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,640
I mean, you know, if I'm adding
up my scores like we're talking
686
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:02,600
eight and a half 910 like this
is, this is over a 40 out of 50
687
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,320
for sure.
And I think it would probably be
688
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,880
one of our two or three highest
rated whiskeys of the season if
689
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,600
we had it on a regular episode.
Huge stamp of approval, but
690
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,960
folks, come on, it's B.Tech.
Like we expect this from B.Tech.
691
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:15,840
Yes.
Yeah.
692
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,880
I I think that my score would
probably be just without the
693
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,440
value because we don't have to
get into value today, Bob.
694
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,840
If I was scoring this without
value, I'd probably be in the
695
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,520
3536 out of 40 range.
Oh, 100%.
696
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,000
Like it's it's it's a 90 or
above.
697
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,200
If we're just talking flavor,
yes, and I am.
698
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,000
I am here for it, man.
I want to say thank you to
699
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,840
Buffalo Trace for sending us
this sample.
700
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,160
It's really cool to revisit this
brand with you, Brad.
701
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,600
Yeah, it it really is,
especially considering how long
702
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:51,600
ago not just chronologically we
drank that but but in our
703
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:57,040
whiskey journey like that was a
really early example of what
704
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,600
whiskey could be for us.
And I think it's set the
705
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,080
standard for a really long time.
And so to come back, you know
706
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,880
slightly more experienced in in
our palates and in our
707
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,280
understanding of whiskey, I
think it's fun to give it a a
708
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,720
fair assessment.
For where we're at now and and
709
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:16,200
still come out to a place where
you're like, yeah, well, damn
710
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,640
it, B.Tech, you did it again.
All right, man, we are down to
711
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,800
our final Four movies.
It's time for us to keep
712
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,360
eliminating three of these from
existence.
713
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:31,800
What do you say?
Let's get to it all right.
714
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,200
On the left side of the bracket,
we're not beating around the
715
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,520
Bush anymore.
Brad, we've got 2 movies, City,
716
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,840
Lights and Rope.
If I'm being frank, I would
717
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,640
choose either of these movies
over both of the movies on the
718
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,800
right side of the bracket.
So this is hard for me.
719
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,160
It's hard in that, like, I don't
want to pick one to be the
720
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,640
winner here, but I will pick
whatever comes out of this side
721
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,120
of the bracket to win the
bracket.
722
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:57,960
Like, I'll just tell you right
now, City Lights won my bracket,
723
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,720
so I think I am gonna pick City
Lights here.
724
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,920
But Rope is like my beloved
movie way more than it is yours,
725
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,520
and so I'd be OK with Rope
winning here.
726
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,760
I'm gonna throw you a curveball,
Bob.
727
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:18,880
How about we Pit City Lights and
Best Years of Our Lives Against
728
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:24,240
Rope and Sabrina and we'll just
have a double winner?
729
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,120
No, because that's confusing.
I think that's something that
730
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,040
you and I do.
Next time we get together, we've
731
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,720
had a couple drinks and then we
like, make an alternate bracket.
732
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:36,520
But like, sure, the bracket is
the bracket.
733
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,360
Man, you can't.
This is a sacred thing.
734
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,000
We can't violate this.
I think that would actually be
735
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,000
interesting.
Instead of doing our our top 32,
736
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:50,080
we pair like the number one seed
with the number 32 seed as like
737
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,800
a a duo and see how far they
get.
738
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,200
When you have the bottom
dragging down the top, that's
739
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,000
fun.
That is fun.
740
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,160
But here we are and City Lights
is up against the road.
741
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,080
Bob, I'm just going to I I don't
have a dog in the fight here.
742
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,040
I'm going to pick whatever movie
you don't pick so that you don't
743
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,320
have to pick.
Cool.
744
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,720
The Coin of Destiny is going to
decide for you.
745
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:15,160
How do you feel about that?
That sounds great.
746
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,440
So you're picking rope.
I picked City Lights.
747
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,040
City Lights is the #9 overall
seed.
748
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,440
Rope is the number four seed.
So we go by what you know.
749
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,840
Which one is heads and which one
is tails is based on which is
750
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,560
the higher ranked movie.
So rope will be heads.
751
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,440
City Lights will be tails.
This was a quick one, but we
752
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,160
need to establish our
championship here.
753
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,560
Brad, for a spot in the finals.
Flip that coin.
754
00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:53,800
Bob, the higher seeded rope will
be moving on to the finals, so
755
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,160
officially both of our bracket
winners are now kicked out of
756
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,000
existence.
Brad.
757
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,600
That's all I wanted.
How do you feel about having
758
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,560
rope in the finals?
Weird.
759
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,600
I don't like it.
You don't like I?
760
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,000
Just don't.
I just don't think Rope is good
761
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:14,080
enough of a film to be in the
Film and Whiskey Bracket
762
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,680
Challenge finals.
Like when I when I compare it to
763
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:24,400
things like The Two Towers do
the right thing, like it just
764
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,480
doesn't.
I don't know.
765
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:27,880
I just don't think it matches
up.
766
00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:32,200
I understand what you're saying,
actually, because City, I mean,
767
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,200
City Lights won my bracket.
But like, at least with City
768
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,680
Lights, even if I wasn't a huge
fan of that movie, I would
769
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,320
understand that there's like the
weight of history on its side
770
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,640
that, like, most people
recognize that it's a great
771
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:45,880
movie.
Yeah.
772
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,080
And I, I'll just say you had the
chance, Brad, to just put City
773
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,080
Lights there.
You wouldn't feel so weird about
774
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:55,280
it and you didn't do it.
No, no, I I I wanted the coin to
775
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,040
decide.
I mostly didn't want your
776
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,800
bracket winner to win.
And on top of that, I think that
777
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,640
you chose a poor batch of 32
because I I think that Season 7
778
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,800
might be our weakest entry into
the winner's circle.
779
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,520
It wouldn't have been if you had
allowed Rashaman and Unforgiven
780
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,040
to get to the finals, but that's
fine.
781
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,040
Yeah, if if you had allowed
Akiru to get through, we would
782
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,640
be in a great place right now.
Bob.
783
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,920
Here's the thing, man.
I I would put Akiru up against
784
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,360
almost any other movie that has
won A bracket.
785
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,720
I'm proud of you, man.
I'm glad you gave it a chance.
786
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,120
Thanks, dude.
All right, moving to the other
787
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,680
side of the bracket, we've got
the number two seed to the best
788
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,920
years of our lives up against
the number three seed, Sabrina.
789
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:47,520
A battle of Titans here.
I honestly think that I want to
790
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,080
put Sabrina in the finals at
this point.
791
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,280
Brad I I'm living for chaos at
this point.
792
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,920
An agent of chaos, Bob book I
would not.
793
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,520
Knowing you, as long as I've
known you, Bob, I would not peg
794
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,480
you as an agent of chaos.
I had unforgiven in the finals,
795
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,240
and I think that that is the
worthy movie on this side of the
796
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:06,680
bracket.
But looking at Best Years of Our
797
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,120
Lives and Sabrina, I think the
weight of history, quote UN
798
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,760
quote, would probably lean
slightly towards Best years of
799
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,120
Our Lives.
But that movie doesn't have the
800
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:19,000
weight of other city lights.
Like even, you know, even if
801
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:24,160
more people recognize it, it's
not like it's some, you know,
802
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,440
super popular old movie, right.
So, and that makes.
803
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,080
Me feel like I've never heard of
it, right?
804
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,400
And that makes me feel like I
can just put Sabrina in the
805
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,800
finals and it's like
functionally the same thing.
806
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:39,320
Yeah, yeah, Bob, I when when I
saw that high and low got
807
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:44,840
eliminated, Sabrina was my
second choice as this sides
808
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,000
winner.
So I yeah, I'm moving Sabrina on
809
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,720
too.
Man, I would never have pegged
810
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:54,400
this to be our finals, folks,
but we've got rope going up
811
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,760
against Audrey Hepburn and
Sabrina, and that is the film
812
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,280
and Whiskey Season 7
championship battle, which we
813
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,120
will get to right after we break
down our top five whiskeys of
814
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,440
the season.
Brad, we can't get out of here
815
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,080
today without telling people
what the best whiskeys we tried
816
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,120
this season were, and I've got
the list right here.
817
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,880
And if you don't remember some
of the movies we've watched,
818
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,840
Brad, I can guarantee you you're
not going to remember some of
819
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:20,360
these.
Whiskeys.
820
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:26,720
Yeah, the man After.
After seven seasons of this, the
821
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:32,000
whiskeys do start to all blend
together, if you don't mind me
822
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,280
using a pun.
I don't think we realized it at
823
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,880
the time, but the middle of this
season was a golden era of film
824
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:42,640
and whiskey because of the five
top five whiskeys we had here,
825
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,680
four of them were between weeks
11/14/16 and 18.
826
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,520
So we tried four of our five
best in a seven week span there
827
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,920
but.
Yeah, I was going to say we
828
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,600
drank some whiskey near the end
of the season, that I did not
829
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,840
like it all.
And I remember thinking to
830
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,400
myself, man, it's been a while
since we had a whiskey that I
831
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,720
was not like like at least 37
out of 50.
832
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,520
All right, well, starting with
the number 5 best whiskey of the
833
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,880
season, we have Rabbit Hole
Bourbon, also known as Rabbit
834
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,080
Hole Cave Hill.
Now last season, yeah, last
835
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,600
season we tried Rabbit Hole
Derringer or Derringer.
836
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,040
I still don't know how they like
to pronounce it and we were kind
837
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,360
of day manner about.
It it's it's kind of like day
838
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:31,040
man, day ringer, day ringer.
We we were not like crazy about
839
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,360
it.
And so when we got around to the
840
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,440
Black Label Cave Hill, we were
like all right, I hope this is
841
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,280
better.
I think that one is their four
842
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:41,360
grain recipe and it is really,
really good and it's pretty
843
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,280
affordable too.
Yeah.
844
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,560
And and that's the big thing We
have to take value into account
845
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,960
the fact that the The Cave Hill
is affordable and has it had a
846
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,760
nice complexity about it that I
remember.
847
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,080
And that's a good good start for
our top five.
848
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,240
Our number four on the season is
the most recent one we tried.
849
00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:03,760
It's the Glenfiddich Fire and
Kane.
850
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,000
Now this was a limited release
that I think is only like 90 or
851
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,520
92 proof.
It's an easy sipper, but man, it
852
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,320
just was decadently sweet and I
had so much going on I wasn't
853
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,600
expecting it from Glenn Fiddick.
I really, really loved it and we
854
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,800
averaged out to a 42.25 out of
50.
855
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,920
Man, yeah, what a what a great
offering.
856
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,720
The the smokiness that just it's
almost like they smuggled it in,
857
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:34,440
man, I I really like that stuff.
All right, #3 is the Tam do 10
858
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,680
year that we tried way back in
Week 11.
859
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,720
One of just a few Scotch
whiskies this season, Brad, that
860
00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:43,400
really broke that 40 mark for
us.
861
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:48,120
Dude, that Tam do.
So I I have like a special area
862
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:52,080
of my house where I keep like my
top whiskies and there's like
863
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:56,560
maybe like 12 bottles on the
shelf that Tam Do immediately
864
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,440
went on to that shelf.
Man A, the bottle is gorgeous
865
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:06,760
and B, that stuff is delicious.
All right, coming in at #2 on
866
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,760
the season, Brad is Shivas Regal
Mizunara Cask.
867
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,040
This is back from week 16.
This is only the second time
868
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,400
we've had a Shivas Regal product
on the show after their regular
869
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,680
offering, which is like from
season. 1 Yes, which is like a
870
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:26,360
fine entry proof blended Scotch.
I was not expecting much from
871
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,320
this, Brad.
It's a 43 out of 50 from us.
872
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,680
Yeah dude, I was blown away
also.
873
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,160
Are Are we becoming whiskey
snobs, Bob?
874
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,680
Probably.
Two of our two of our top three
875
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,480
are Scotches.
I I don't know what our top
876
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,960
overall whiskey was, but if it's
a Scotch, we might not be very
877
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,560
approachable anymore.
The funny thing is, I bought all
878
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,840
four of our top 4 whiskeys in
the Ohio Liquor Bureau Bureau.
879
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,800
Last Call Section Bob, I would
like to formally lodge a
880
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,160
complaint on behalf of friends
of mine who are very angry with
881
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,120
you.
That you kept purchasing Last
882
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,200
Call Whiskeys because they
cannot find it.
883
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,480
Now they're like, Oh yeah,
you're talking about this
884
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,160
incredible Glenn, Fiddick, Fire
and Kane and I want it.
885
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,800
And then you're like, well, the
Village Score is hard to
886
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,240
determine because it was on the
last Call shelf.
887
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,920
Now you can buy it elsewhere,
you can have it shipped to your
888
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,640
house.
People, what?
889
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,680
What I think it's really boils
down to is stop making it so
890
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,760
that Brad and I have to buy the
cheapest possible whiskeys, you
891
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,240
know?
Give us some sponsorship money.
892
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:35,680
Sign up for the Patreon we'll
we'll buy the non last Call.
893
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,040
We'll buy first call whiskeys.
First, call whiskeys.
894
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,400
We're not quite there yet, Bob.
Are you ready, Brad, for the
895
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:48,000
best whiskey of Season 7?
I sure am, Robert coming from
896
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:52,080
week 18, coming not from
Scotland but from the nation of
897
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:53,720
India.
It is on.
898
00:51:53,720 --> 00:51:58,160
Root fusion dude.
I am so happy that that's our
899
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,600
top rated whiskey.
That stuff was mind blowing.
900
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,560
So good.
It's one of those ones that I
901
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,760
popped the cork like just to
pour a sample for you.
902
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,800
And the aroma of it, I was like,
oh, OK, noted.
903
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,520
Like I will, I will catalogue
that for the next year until we
904
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,880
actually drink this on air,
because this smells incredible
905
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:26,080
and it's one of the few that the
aroma lived up to the the taste,
906
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,680
that finish, man, it is like,
yeah, mind blowing is a great
907
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,680
word for it, yeah.
I if I remember correctly, is
908
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,760
that the only whiskey we've ever
had a true mango note on?
909
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:42,640
I believe so.
Yeah, just fruity and delicious
910
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:48,680
and like, Oh my gosh dude, I
wanted I There's very few that,
911
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,960
you know, people talk about,
like getting drunk on whiskey.
912
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,560
I do not like drinking that much
whiskey.
913
00:52:55,320 --> 00:53:00,840
I could drink that much Amur
Fusion so good it could get you
914
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,520
trashed.
All right, that's what we're
915
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,160
going for here on film and
whiskey.
916
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,440
And Brad, now that we've
determined the best whiskey of
917
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,760
the season, it is time to
finally crown the champion of
918
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,240
season seven.
So why don't you get us back
919
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:20,240
into our championship match up?
So here at the end of season 7.
920
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:26,120
The end of All Times Director
Season #2 finishing up, we
921
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:34,440
somehow came to the point where
we have Rope versus Sabrina 2
922
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:40,280
movies that if you asked me if
we if if DraftKings took notice
923
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:45,320
of our wee little podcast and
started to create odds on which
924
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,560
movies would be in the
championship match.
925
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:55,280
I would probably put both of
these films around like a A +
926
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,560
3000.
Oh yeah, +4000 like that.
927
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,360
You know, not bottom of the
barrel, but not very close to
928
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:03,480
the top.
Nope.
929
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,640
My goal with rope was like, if I
can get Brad to agree with me
930
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,200
that this is like a hidden gem
and the kind of movie that you
931
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,440
tell your friends about, that's
like, oh, you liked North by
932
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,280
Northwest.
You got to check out Rope.
933
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,200
I never in a million years would
have thought like, oh, and it
934
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,040
will also be in the Championship
of the Bracket at the end of the
935
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,480
year.
Yeah, I.
936
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,160
I am not.
I don't know how to feel about
937
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,160
it, man.
It's it's Hitchcock.
938
00:54:31,240 --> 00:54:34,080
I I think it's so hard for me
because I liked Dial M for
939
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,440
Murder so much.
I think that's what's really
940
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,640
throwing me off here.
You could just pretend that it's
941
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:45,920
dial in for murder if you want.
Yeah, but I I understand reality
942
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,320
and that this is not dial in for
murder.
943
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,280
It's style R for rope.
The last thing I will say about
944
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,080
this movie is that I watched it
in a movie theater with a crowd
945
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,560
of people, most of whom had
never seen it before.
946
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,360
You could tell just by their
reactions to it.
947
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,320
And I think I said on the
episode, it's really cool to
948
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,960
watch a movie this old in a
theater and have it work this
949
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,360
well.
Like, people were legitimately
950
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,520
gasping at moments of the movie
and and laughing at most of the
951
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,880
laugh lines.
And like there wasn't, you know,
952
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,040
like every now and then Farley
Granger's little drunken
953
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,800
outburst would cause someone to
laugh because they're really
954
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,960
over the top.
This movie worked like
955
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,280
gangbusters.
And then I went and saw a double
956
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,440
feature of Hitchcock movies the
following week, and North by
957
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,160
Northwest was one of them.
And it played to that crowd as
958
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,640
well as Rope played to the crowd
the week before.
959
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,760
So, like, I mean, I think I'm a
little bit spoiled in my
960
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,400
estimation of this movie now,
Brad, because I'm like, it would
961
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,480
have been really cool to have
you with me and to have your
962
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,120
first experience with Rope be in
a theater full of really
963
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,520
receptive people.
I don't know if that would have
964
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,640
changed your opinion overall,
but it's just I know the movie
965
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,000
still works and I think that's
part of why it it is still near
966
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,680
and dear to my heart.
Yeah.
967
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,680
And I think that's totally fair
it.
968
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,360
It is such a different
experience to watch a movie at
969
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,600
home versus watching it in the
theaters.
970
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,440
And like, at the end of the day,
man, if we were just filthy
971
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,520
rich, I would just go rent out
my local theater and watch all
972
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,320
32 of our movies in the theater,
invite all my friends, and I
973
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:18,840
think that would probably be the
way to go.
974
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,360
Bob, why?
Why aren't we doing that?
975
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,080
Yeah, it's because we have to
peruse the last call sections,
976
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:24,280
man.
No.
977
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,680
Yeah, we're patreon.com/film
Whiskey.
978
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,880
Let's come on guys.
We need a tier that's that's
979
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:35,000
just rent the theater tier $1000
a month.
980
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,680
Send it our.
Way oh man.
981
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,840
Dude, my local theater was like
150 bucks a month or 150 bucks
982
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,920
to rent out the theater.
Oh, we could totally do that.
983
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,080
Yeah, Patreon, my pig is
Sabrina.
984
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:51,520
I'm going to go rope.
Yeah, I think like we we got at
985
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,760
least end it on a on a coin flip
because we can't end it on you
986
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,240
just like shrugging.
That's like the worst ending to
987
00:56:57,240 --> 00:56:59,280
this season.
There has to be some.
988
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,680
Even if the drama is
manufactured, there has to be
989
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,360
some drama here.
You go ahead and manufacture Bob
990
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,240
while I flip this coin.
All right.
991
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,720
Sabrina's going to be heads
because that is the number three
992
00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:15,640
seed rope is tails.
Brad for the crown, Flip that
993
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:22,200
coin.
Robert Yes, Sir.
994
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:26,920
The winner of season seven of
the Film and Whiskey Podcast
995
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:31,840
Bracket Challenge is none other
than Alfred Hitchcock's Rope.
996
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,680
Yeah, we did it.
We did it, baby.
997
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:52,920
We started at the bottom.
Anything is possible, man.
998
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:57,920
How you feeling now?
Dude, I I mean, I'll say this.
999
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,240
I think it'll look nice to film
Bros Oh yeah, we will look like
1000
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:06,080
the most sophisticated.
Yeah, watchers of obscure films.
1001
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:12,960
Yeah, Hitchcock's #7 best film
is, like, going to just make so
1002
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:17,240
many people cream their pants.
Oh yeah, well, on that note and
1003
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:21,120
with that mental image, I would
like to segue us into saying we
1004
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,680
want to know what your final
four films were.
1005
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,120
So if you've been following
along, if you've downloaded a
1006
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:30,640
bracket, please let us see your
final film and W4 by using the
1007
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,880
hashtag film and W4.
We really want to see it on
1008
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,640
social media.
You guys have been doing a great
1009
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,640
job of it the last couple
seasons, so let us see where we
1010
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,600
got it wrong by showing us your
film and W4.
1011
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,320
Brad, what do you think is going
to be the audience favorite this
1012
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,960
year?
I mean prestige, obviously.
1013
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,520
That's true.
I forgot about the Nolan movies.
1014
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:55,640
That's a no brainer.
Man, that.
1015
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,160
Obviously, Obviously, what would
be the highest rated?
1016
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,800
I'll be honest with you, Bob, we
watched a lot of really old
1017
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,120
movies this season.
We sure did.
1018
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,040
I liked them for the most part,
yeah.
1019
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:11,920
I'll say this though.
I was looking at my director
1020
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,480
average rank.
Now that's, you know, when I
1021
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:21,920
when I rated MY1232 just by the
heart, none of the directors
1022
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,440
stood out from the others this
season.
1023
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:29,200
All of them were ranked in like
the 15 to 17 range.
1024
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:35,200
And last season there was like a
genuine disparity between like
1025
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,720
the top four or five directors
in the bottom.
1026
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:42,240
You know like 2 where like there
was a large range in the scores.
1027
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:48,240
And I I think for me this
season, I'll be honest with you
1028
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,200
Bob, it wasn't my favorite.
I don't.
1029
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,160
I I I'll say this, I don't know
if there was any like one or two
1030
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:59,040
movies other than Akiru that
like stood out to me as like,
1031
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:04,200
man, this was majestic cinema.
You know what the problem is
1032
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,400
with the season like this?
First of all, it was kind of
1033
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,760
designed to be a more of like a
completist season.
1034
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,040
Like, I wanted to make sure we
saw a a bunch of the IMDb top
1035
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,720
250 that we hadn't gotten around
to.
1036
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:19,640
I think that this season had
fewer lows than some last of the
1037
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,160
prior seasons, but it didn't
have as many highs either.
1038
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,920
It was kind of like a lot of
eights, A lot of 7 1/2's, a lot
1039
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,160
of 8 1/2's.
You say fewer lows, but we did
1040
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:34,960
watch Point Break Bob.
Well, hey folks, that does it
1041
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,800
for us for Season 7, but we're
not totally going away.
1042
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,840
Brad and I are taking a break in
the month of December.
1043
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,480
Season 8 kicks off at the very
beginning of January.
1044
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,520
We do have a few special
episodes planned in the interim
1045
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:50,040
where you'll hear our voices
like our patented Thanksgiving
1046
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,880
and Cruise Miss episodes.
Let's go.
1047
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,000
But over the next month, we're
actually turning over the
1048
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,240
podcast feed to our friend Zach
Johnston from Up Rocks.
1049
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,360
He has.
We've given him free reign,
1050
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,280
honestly, to go interview people
from all parts of America about
1051
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,520
their whiskey making process and
to pair the whiskeys and the
1052
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,600
interviews he's doing with these
distillers with a region
1053
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,560
specific movie.
So starting next week you're
1054
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,960
going to be hearing Zach
Johnston's Whiskey Tour of
1055
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,400
America on the film and Whiskey
feed.
1056
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,480
Brad, I cannot wait to listen
into this.
1057
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,560
I am like, I'm not Privy to any
of this.
1058
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,800
Like, just like you guys aren't.
So I'm going to be on the edge
1059
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,520
of my seat listening to to Zach,
just like everybody else.
1060
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,160
Yeah, just a just a little
preview.
1061
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:37,680
I've heard that he has chosen 4
NC 17 and erotic thrillers to
1062
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,680
review.
So in depth.
1063
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:43,680
Get ready, folks.
All right, that does it for
1064
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,160
season seven.
I'm Bob Book.
1065
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,080
I'm Brad G and we'll see you
next time.