Scoring Alfred Hitchcock / Old Line Spirits

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Today on the Film and Whiskey
Podcast, we'll be scoring out

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director Sir Alfred Hitchcock on
the only measure that he ever

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could have defined himself by
the Film and Whiskey Metric.

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Then we'll be trying 3 new
American single malts from old

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blind spirits.
This is.

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The Film and Whiskey podcast.
Welcome into the Film and

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Whiskey podcast.
I'm Bob Book.

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I'm Brad G.
And we are coming at you with

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another special bonus episode.
Bonus episode.

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And it is the last of these
scoring a director bonuses for

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the season.
Brad for eternity.

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Yeah, for.
Hopefully we think we've done

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like 20 of them now, but we're
we sure have.

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We're ending with a bang,
appropriately, with Sir Alfred

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Hitchcock.
I think it's it's more of a

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scream and a stab.
Yeah, and a strangle.

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Something like that.
Strangle.

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Lots of.
Strangulation in these Hitchcock

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movies this time around, Yeah, I
wonder, I wonder if he had like

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some sort of accidental, you
know, partial strangulation as a

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child, because he seems very
obsessed with it.

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I think there's something about
like the the intimacy of like

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squeezing.
Somebody that he was like, you

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know, it just hit all of his
weird fetishes.

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Yes, one of the strangest people
to ever be regarded as the

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greatest of his, of his, you
know, work.

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Listen, the man knew how to make
a movie and and what he did in

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his personal life is outside of
our our purview.

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So with that said.
Brad, we're going to run him

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through this metric that we've
developed.

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We're only thinking about the
five movies of his that we

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watched for this season.
So in order, I believe those

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were Notorious Rope.
What was the third one?

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Shadow of a Doubt.
Shadow of a Doubt, The 39 Steps

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and Dial M For Murder Now we
have watched four other

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Hitchcock movies in prior
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They are his four.
You know, quote UN quote

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masterpieces.
We're not considering them what

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we're doing today.
The exercise is, you know, if

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the aliens came down and we gave
them these five Hitchcock movies

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to understand how to direct a
movie, how would the aliens

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score out Alfred Hitchcock.
And we have a 5 point metric for

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figuring that out.
Brad, I've been talking for too

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long already.
Will you walk us through the

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metric?
I sure will.

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We are talking about
performances, cinematography,

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editing, which includes sound
and visual cohesion and

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uniqueness.
Yeah, and with editing too,

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we're we're talking about the
rhythm, the flow of the movie.

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Is it paced well with cohesion.
It's more about how does this

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hang together in terms of the
director helping to build out a

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believable world, even if the
movie is set in the real world.

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A movie like I would say, like
Rope or Shadow of a Doubt is

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kind of a heightened version of
reality.

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And does Hitchcock do a good job
maintaining that throughout?

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And I guess that's a question
that we'll answer now, Brad.

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Question Mark.
Yeah, we sure will.

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Yeah, let's get into it.
Let's talk about performances.

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This is for me, I think a really
up and down category for these

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five films there.
There are certain high parts.

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I I think that Joseph Cotton and
Teresa Wright and Shadow of a

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Doubt are great.
I think that Rope has some great

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actors, even if we don't love
Jimmy Stewart's final scene.

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I think The Dial in for Murder
has incredible performances.

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So overall, I think outside of
Notorious, I think I I am pretty

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solid on all of the performances
from the other four films.

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Yeah, I'm in a weird spot with
this one because, you know,

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Hitchcock famously had that
quote where he talked about at

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actors being like cattle and
having to be kind of rounded up

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and put in their place.
And and I think that in a lot of

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Hitchcock movies, the actors
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But they're not necessarily
spotlighting that actor's

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abilities.
You know what I mean?

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It's like, yes, you're here to
do a job and to help me put the

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audience in a spirit of
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And in that regard, I think
every single one of these movies

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does what it's supposed to do.
I didn't even really like

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Notorious that much.
And I think that Ingrid Bergman

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and Cary Grant are very good in
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I think that the three main
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Are all fantastic.
I think that the main actors in

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Dial In for Murder are all
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I loved Robert Donat in The 39
Steps, so there's a part of me

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that's like if they all work
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I think I'm just going to give
him a nine here, partially

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because while the performances
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do, I don't think any of them
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performances.
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think about on our shadow of a
Doubt episode, when you talked

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about how Hitchcock liked
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actually filming a movie.
And I I think that you see that

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in the performances that
Hitchcock sees the actors for

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their flaws and how they're not
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version of what's happening.
And and you you kind of get that

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vibe that that like you said the
the characters or the actors are

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just there to to illustrate what
he's trying to do more than to

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be actors and and bring their
own essence to the movie.

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So I'm going to give him an 8
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I'm a little bit cooler than
you, still some really great,

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solid performances.
All right, moving into

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cinematography now again, I feel
like we give this disclaimer

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every week but or every time we
do these bonuses, but.

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We know that Hitchcock is not
the editor and is not the

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credited cinematographer on
these movies, but he also has a

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very particular visual style.
He knows that he wants to move

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the camera and to Brad's point,
they storyboarded every movie he

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made essentially once he got to
America.

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So the visual look of this movie
can really be chalked up to

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Alfred Hitchcock, and I think
this might be his strongest

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category of the five when we
look at these five movies.

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Brad.
Rope is an experiment through

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and through in cinematography,
and a very successful one I

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think.
Even movies like Notorious have

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some really incredible technical
merits to them.

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That shot that starts weighing
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room and kind of cranes all the
way down into a close up on

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Ingrid Bergman's hand.
Incredible stuff, and I don't

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really know of anything.
I I guess the only real downside

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we talked about was there's
some.

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Rear projection stuff in
Notorious that looked a little

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fake and that happens in a few
of his early Hollywood movies

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but from an actually like
framing the shot, shooting the

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movie, moving the camera
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I think it's a 10 out of 10 man.
Yeah, I I don't really have much

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to say outside of that.
I I think that he is a master of

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the camera.
You know, for me, I think about

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a lot of the shots from Shadow
of a Doubt when you see Teresa

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Wright framed by the doorway and
everything is darkness and she

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is light the the train coming
into the station and blowing up

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the smoke, that there's just so
many incredible shots throughout

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this series of five films.
I don't think he's perfect here,

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but I'll give him a nine and a
half.

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All right, editing is one that.
See, I always try to give the

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caveat about editing and
cohesion, because when

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something's not working about
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I really have to run it through
this filter of OK, is it the

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pacing of the movie, is it the
editing, or is it the world

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building isn't working for me.
And in a film like Notorious,

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it's kind of a little bit of
both.

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But I think at the end of the
day, the editing is where that

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movie really suffers.
There's just some really huge

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pacing issues for me, and I know
that the other four movies

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didn't work for you, Brad, as
well as they did for me.

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But if there is anything I can
knock Hitchcock on with these

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five films, it's there is always
the occasional pacing issue in

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almost every one of these films.
This is by far the lowest

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category for me.
I'm only going to give him, I

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was going to say 7 1/2.
I think I'll give him an 8 here

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because for me they ultimately
work, whereas I think some of

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them didn't work for you.
Yeah, this is definitely

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something that I struggled with
for Hitchcock.

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I think that his pacing in a lot
of the movies just doesn't

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always make sense to me.
Even in in thinking about Dial M

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for Murder, the the movies an
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about an hour and 25 minutes of
it work like like incredibly

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like that.
It's flows so smoothly.

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But man, those 1st 20 minutes
are rough.

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I think that especially if you
compare them to his four

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greatest works, if you will, his
pacing just isn't my favorite

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among directors, and so I'm
going to give him a 7 out of 10

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here.
Yeah, I think this is always in

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some ways the most unfair to the
director, because this is also

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where we kind of take into
consideration structures with

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the like problems with the
structure of the scripts as

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well.
And so a lot of these movies,

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it's like.
Why did you put a 15 minute

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dialogue scene at the beginning
of this movie before we were

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introduced to anything else?
Like, it's it's just very static

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and incredibly boring at points.
And so that's a script problem.

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But it also does become a
Hitchcock problem because as a

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director, you then have to
realize where the lulls are in

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the script and figure out how do
I keep the audience engaged in

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this.
And there are moments in some of

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these movies where he just
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So yeah, I think this is his
weakest category.

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And we're going to go to
cohesion now, which is again,

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how does the movie hang
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Does the world that Hitchcock is
trying to build visually make

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sense?
And in light of what we just

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said in editing, I do think I'm
going to give him a much higher

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cohesion score.
I don't really like Notorious

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that much.
And it's, you know, the idea of

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like the Nazis living in South
America thing is a played out

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kind of trope at this point,
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It makes sense in the context of
that movie and I think that the

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whole Claude Rains living in his
little mansion thing, it all

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makes sense once you get into
the film.

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So I'm going to bump my score
all the way up to an 8 1/2 here

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for him, I'll bump it up to an
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I think that he creates really
interesting, funny, quirky

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little worlds, even if some of
them are are not totally

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believable.
I think that notorious and

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shadow of a doubt are the least
believable worlds of the things

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that are happening there.
But then you get to something

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like Dial M for murder and I
think that that is a 10 out of

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10 cohesion movie, you know what
I mean?

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And so I'll kind of balance it
out, give him an 8 here.

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I think he does a really good
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But like you said, the scripts
sometimes detract from his

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ability to keep it all going.
And I think that when we get to

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our last category, uniqueness, I
think for me this is my highest

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category.
Like, yeah, the dude is wildly

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weird and funny and has dark
humor and is always forcing the

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audience into uncomfortable
positions.

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I just don't know if there's any
other directors doing that as

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well as he is in the 40s,
thirties, 40s and 50s.

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I have seen other suspenseful
movies outside of Hitchcock,

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obviously, but there is
something about the way that

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he's so meticulously lays out
the entire plot in front of you

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and then can just pull that.
You know that thread, that

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rubber band and stretch out the
tension for minutes and minutes

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and minutes on end.
And you know, we said in our

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dial in for Murder episode, the
entire movie is that tension.

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No one can do it like him.
It's a 10 out of 10.

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Yeah, 10 out of 10 here for you.
Uniqueness.

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Hitchcock is just such a unique
director and I I really enjoy

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watching his films.
Even the movies that I didn't

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quite vibe as much with, they're
they're at least entertaining.

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And so I I I like what he did
here, Bob, I am coming out lower

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than I expected.
Well, lower than I would have

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expected coming into the five
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I'm at a 42.5.
I'm at a 45.5 which takes our

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average to a 44 out of 50.
And this is really interesting,

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Brad, because we have
acknowledged these are not his

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most well regarded films.
This is movie 5 through 9 for

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him and even that's kind of
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And yet we're still coming out
with one of the highest scores

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of the year.
So I think we had a somebody had

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a 46, let me check on who that
was.

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So Stanley Kubrick had a 46,
Kurosawa had a 44 1/2, and that

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means that Hitchcock is tied for
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right now.
I just have to say, first of

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all, let's be honest here,
Alfred Hitchcock, one of the

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greatest directors of all time.
But I think it really

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underscores that when you're
looking at movies that are

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universally acknowledged to not
be his greatest movies and he

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still came in 3rd place on the
season for us.

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Yeah.
And and it's not like he was up

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against some slouches either.
Like the the level of talent and

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directors that we've watched
this year is really incredible.

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And Bob, I have to say I have
had so much fun these last two

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seasons taking larger chunks of
a director's work and examining

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them together and against each
other and and I don't know it's

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it's a fun way to watch cinema
and and more often I would

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encourage people like take a few
weeks and you know every Friday

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night watch a movie from a
director and just kind of get a

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vibe for for who they are and
how they how they see the world.

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Before we get to our whiskey for
the day, we do want to say

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starting next week we are
finishing out season seven with

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our bracket challenge where we
put all 32 films from this

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season into a Madness style
bracket and crown the champion

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of season seven.
Now you can find the bracket on

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our website.
You can find it posted on our

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social media accounts.
We would encourage you follow

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along.
Pick your winner for the season.

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Brad, I'm not going to reveal
the bracket here today.

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But I do want to ask you, like
as you look through the list of

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films from this year, what do
you think are some favourites?

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And what do you think are some
dark horses that might do some

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damage?
I think, I think that you're

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going to push Unforgiven further
along than we might think.

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I think that one, you've
mentioned that movie like at

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least seven or eight times this
season.

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Honestly, I think Dial In for
Murder is one of my favorite

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movies from the season.
Yeah, I liked rope a lot too.

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I feel like we might be at odds
with those two, but it would be

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kind of fun to watch them come
up against each other.

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I was going to say, of course
they're going to hit each other

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in like round two somehow.
I think one of the things I've

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really loved about this season
is that we've both had movies

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with almost every director that
we're like.

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This is a perfect example of
what this director can do, and

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they're very rarely the same
movie.

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So I see a lot of passion from
both of us with wildly different

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films, and I think it's going to
lead to a lot of coin flips, if

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I'm being honest.
Yeah.

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Or it it might lead to dialing.
M, you never know.

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All right, man, let's get to
this whiskey.

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What do you say?
Let's get to it.

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All Right, so today we are
checking out three new American

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single malts from our friends
over at Old Line Spirits a

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couple seasons ago.
Now, Bob, Brad, was it.

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Was it two seasons ago?
One season ago we had, I was, I

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was about to say their single
malt that they sent us was chefs

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as truly, like, like impeccable.
I think we tried the 114, what

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they now called Navy strength
version of their American Single

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Malt.
And they were kind enough to

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send us 3 new samples to try.
One of them is an unfinished

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whiskey.
I don't want, you know, I don't

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want to say unfinished, but
we've got two that are finished

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in other kinds of barrels and
one that is a a normal.

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Whiskey.
Yeah.

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What do you say?
Here It's their bottled and bond

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boring, run-of-the-mill.
It's their bottled and bond

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version.
Then we're going to be trying

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from their Double Oaked finish
Series, A Madera finished and a

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Port finished American Single
malt as well.

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I'm scrolling their page right
now, Brad, because they've got

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so many different kinds of
finishes.

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I see Saturns, I see Arman Yak.
Like we've got many episodes to

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come, hopefully from old lion
spirits.

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Yeah, 100% man.
I I love what they're doing over

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there, even like the the
labeling.

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I think that they have such a
cool logo.

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Like, I'm looking at their
bottled and bond logo right now,

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and it's just this really cool.
Almost like like impressionistic

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art, these waves going by.
So each of these three whiskeys

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is clocking in at 100 proof.
I think, Brad, let's start with

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the Bottled and Bond version
because I've I've sampled all

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three of these and the finished
ones have some pretty heavy

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flavor to them.
So I actually drank them in the

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completely incorrect order.
I think I went from the most

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heavily flavored 1 down to the
least.

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But I think as we introduced
them to our listeners, maybe

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let's start at the Bottled and
Bond.

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Yeah, I I think that's totally
worth it, Bob.

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And having drank all three of
them, you know previously to

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this moment, I really like the
Bottled and Bond.

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It's really good, man, and I
love Old Line's website.

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They walk you through the entire
distilling process.

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You know it's 100% malted
barley.

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They use both column and copper
pot stills and I think that

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gives it that little bit of funk
that you need having it in the

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copper pot still.
So it's labeled as bottled and

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bond.
I assume that means that it is

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at least four years old.
As we know the requirements for

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bottled and bond in bourbon.
It is a non age stated product,

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so it's possible that the malt
in here is more than four years

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old, but we at least know the
minimum age.

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Brad, what are your tasting
notes on this one?

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This one?
As I got into the nose, there's

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some really nice orange zest.
There's caramel, there's like a

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a little bit of fruitiness going
on and and I also got some like

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freshly baked bread that was
really nice.

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It's got a really pleasant nose
here.

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Yeah, I totally agree.
It's funny, 'cause this was the

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last one I drank, and so I think
my notes got shorter and shorter

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as I went because there's a lot
of commonality, obviously,

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between these three samples.
So it they're very sweet.

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I think that's something that
I'm surprised at because

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American single malt.
Has a really distinct character

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to it, Brad, and I don't know if
it's because in a lot of cases

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they're aging their single malt
in a new charred oak barrel,

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whereas Scotch companies, Irish
whiskey companies, typically age

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and used barrels.
But there's a there's a sort of

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like, I don't know what the word
is it, it tastes younger than it

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is a lot when you're drinking
American single malt.

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And it's a lot more like earthy,
a lot more herbal and sometimes

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bitter to me.
And so, like, there's a little

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bit of that.
Youthfulness that you get with

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American single molt underneath
this, but I was shocked at how

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much vanilla there was on the
nose and on the taste of this

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one.
I think on the finish.

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For me, the malt finally takes
over and it almost became like,

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once in a while we'll get a
whiskey that reminds us of like

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a really hoppy beer, like an
IPA.

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And I got a little bit of that
on the back end of this one.

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Yeah, I I think for me, the
thing that stood out was the

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sweetness.
I got a note on the palette of

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like, strawberry nerds.
Like it was a really distinct,

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like artificial strawberry kind
of feel that as I sat with it.

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I was like, I think that those
are like, like nerds like, like

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it had a crispness, A crispness
to it that was very compelling.

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I I really liked this.
The finish was great.

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It was oaky leather.
It kind of got weedy at the end

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for me.
I think Bob, if I was scoring

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this out of 50, I'd probably
come to like the 3840 out of 50

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range.
I thought this was really,

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really solid.
I think this one's sitting

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around A35.
For me, this is actually of the

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three.
This is my least favorite and

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Brad and I were chatting right
before we press record.

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I think we might have polar
opposite favorite to least

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favorite lists here.
Brad.

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So I think that might be the
case.

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With with that said, let's move
into the second one for the day.

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This is their double oaked port
finish, which I believe is

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finished in the second barrel
for like a year and a half.

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At least that's what it says on
our Madera finish as well.

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So I'm assuming that it's at
least a similar time in the

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barrel.
This is a 5 year, A5 year aged

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product that is then finished
for you know, over a year.

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I really do love my port,
finished Whiskeys.

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Man.
There's something about the the

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dark, sweet character of Port
that I think translates really

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well to malt.
Yeah, I mean, I literally my

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first note on the palette for
this one was Darkness in My

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Soul.
Like it's just it is so

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incredibly deep and dark and
like like really stone fruity.

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Kind of cherry I I got grape
juice and dark cherry on the

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nose.
It it kind of leaned into a

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little bit of an anise territory
that I wasn't a huge fan of.

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The The finish, though, is super
fruity.

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It's very a lot of vanilla.
As it sat on my palate for

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longer that that came forward, I
was really high on this one.

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I think I'd be like just barely
a step below the bottled and

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bond, but I'm probably at like a
3738 out of out of 50 here.

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Yeah, this is funny because, you
know, I started with the Madera,

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finished one when I was sipping
through them.

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So I went Madera port, bottled
and bond.

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And all of my notes are like in
comparison to Madera.

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But the first note I took was
like, this is way darker, dark,

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Dark Molasses was the first note
that I took it.

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I mean, it's like if I got brown
sugar on the Madera, this was

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like straight molasses.
In the glass it had a much more

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bourbon Y character than the
Madera finish.

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And I would it's also say the
bottled and bond.

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It's really oak forward, but it
has those those notes of caramel

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and brown sugar and vanilla.
This one just absolutely

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exploded on my palate, tons of
oak, some sawdust.

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It had that kind of like, you
know, the the dusty floral notes

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that I get on like the Willet
funk.

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There was some apple, there was
some citrus like it.

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It had a lot going on for an
American single malt, really

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bourbony, and I really liked it.
As a result, I thought that the

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finish was like just a little
bit sour.

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Like it it it reminded me of
toasted oak a little bit instead

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of charred oak.
But man, if I wouldn't be

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approaching a 3940 on this Brad,
like it's it's really good.

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Yeah, I I was very impressed.
I I think that I like the bottle

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and Bond a little bit more, but
these are two vastly different

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whiskeys from each other and I
love them both for what they are

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offering.
OK, finally we're at the Madera

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Cask finish.
This one for sure was aged for

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five years and then finished for
1.5 years in Madera casks.

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This is by far my favorite one
of the three.

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Brad, you said this was your
least favorite one of the three.

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I don't know that that means
that you didn't like it, but.

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It was your least favorite one.
I'd love to hear why.

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Before I start praising it, I
think that of all the finished

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whiskeys we've ever done, like,
you know, Madera is a fortified

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wine.
And this for me.

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And maybe it's because I drank
them.

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You know, bottled and bond,
port, and then this.

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This one tasted more like
fortified wine than any whiskey

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I've ever had.
Like, I don't know how to

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describe it, but the nose, the
taste, everything about it was

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just it didn't taste enough like
whiskey for me to be a huge fan

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of it.
Got it.

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Yeah.
And I think that's part of why I

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really liked it.
Honestly.

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I thought that it didn't really
have like the actual viscosity,

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like the the legs on it weren't
any different than the other two

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whiskeys, but it smelled and
kind of tasted so much more

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potent that the the note I kept
taking was syrupy.

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Like, it is incredibly syrupy on
the nose.

447
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:48,240
I got Maple, I got figs, I got
like really dark grapes, almost

448
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,040
like a Concorde grape.
And then it had a very

449
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,320
particular flowery finish That
is what usually is what we get

450
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,400
when we try like Amberana
finishes.

451
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,800
And it that was in here and I
was like, I know a lot of people

452
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,520
are like sick of Amberana at
this point.

453
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,120
I love it.
And so I was, I was all in on

454
00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:09,000
the nose on this.
And then my tasting note was

455
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:15,240
just, oh man.
With four HS on the word O multi

456
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,920
herbal Maple syrup finish and
this like.

457
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,040
Honestly, it reminded me of when
you make yourself an Old

458
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,520
Fashioned and you use Maple
syrup instead of like, you know,

459
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,440
a demerara or something just
Canadian Old Fashioned.

460
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,800
Yes, there's just layers and
layers of brown sugar and Maple

461
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,920
on this for me.
I thought it was exceptional.

462
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,480
Man, I think I'd be close to
like a 45 out of 50 on this

463
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,160
bread.
Oh wow.

464
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,480
Yeah, we are way off from each
other.

465
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,080
I I thought it was very earthy.
I think that like the your notes

466
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,120
about like the darker fruits
definitely stood out.

467
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,840
But to me, like, I don't know if
you've had like I've had

468
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,760
fortified wine a few different
times, a few different varieties

469
00:25:54,240 --> 00:26:00,120
and it's just never struck me as
a good marriage of like wine and

470
00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:03,200
clear liquor.
I I just, I don't know it it's

471
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,120
never been something that I've
enjoyed and I think that this

472
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:09,040
tasted like that more than it
tasted like whiskey.

473
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:14,960
And so I actually, I'd probably
be in like the 30 out of 50 area

474
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,880
on this one.
I I would not recommend the

475
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:23,400
Madera finish which is sad for
me because I genuinely loved the

476
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,120
bottled and bond.
I loved the double oak port

477
00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:29,680
finish and to go back to the
very first sample they sent us,

478
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,240
that dude, there's single malt,
114 proof.

479
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,760
I gave it to one of my friends.
We were drinking it together and

480
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,520
he looked at me like, Brad, have
you been holding out on?

481
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,280
Yeah.
It's like like this is some of

482
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,640
the greatest stuff I've ever
had.

483
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,880
So, so don't take my Madera
finish as a as a blatant, you

484
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,520
know, I don't like old line.
I think old line is incredible.

485
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,800
I think they take risks.
I think that they move the the

486
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,120
whiskey brand forward as a
whole.

487
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,560
I I love the stuff that they're
putting out.

488
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,800
Bob, we've tried American single
malt from, I don't know, 5-6,

489
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,320
seven distilleries now and I I
think that the cream has risen

490
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,880
to the top a little bit.
Brad, like there are three

491
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,480
producers now distillers that if
they send me a bottle, I'm like

492
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,040
this is going to be really good.
And McCarthy's was really,

493
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,800
really good when we had them.
I think that Westland, we had

494
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,560
that solem a few months ago.
That was like next level stuff,

495
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,640
old line is.
I think right now it might be my

496
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,800
favorite American single malt
distiller.

497
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,600
Like, I've never disliked
anything I've gotten from them

498
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,960
and it really seems like they,
like you said, they're on the

499
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,560
the cutting edge of this.
They're pushing the industry

500
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,760
forward.
I cannot say enough good things

501
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,920
about Old Line.
Yes, I Dude, Old Line is

502
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,640
incredible.
They're making incredible

503
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,560
whiskey.
Go spend your money on Old Line.

504
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,360
This is not a paid
advertisement.

505
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,680
All right, Brad.
I think that wraps us up for the

506
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,080
day.
We've talked about Hitchcock.

507
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,200
We've talked about whiskey.
So a reminder, Next week we're

508
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,720
kicking off our bracket
challenge.

509
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,480
You can find the bracket on our
website.

510
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,000
You can find the bracket on all
of our social media accounts.

511
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,880
It's a really fun time.
Follow along with us and debate

512
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,520
with us as we eliminate movies
and pick the best film from

513
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,240
season seven.
We will see you next week for

514
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,720
that one.
But until then, I'm Bob Book.

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00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,760
I'm Brad G.
And we'll see you next time.