Reservoir Dogs / Weller Full Proof

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In 1992 director Quentin
Tarantino gave the world.

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His debut effort a bloody bank
heist that has derailed by

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betrayal in 2021.
We return once again to Buffalo

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Trace for a foolproof product,
the film is Reservoir Dogs, the

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whiskey is Weller foolproof and
we'll review them both.

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This is the film and whiskey
podcast.

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Welcome to the film and whiskey
podcast, where each week, we

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review a classic movie and a
glass of whiskey.

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I'm Bob book, I'm Brad G and
this week we are looking at the

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1992 Quentin Tarantino classic
Reservoir Dogs.

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Bro, you just gave that like a
little bit of like gravel that

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was yeah.
It was like a nice movie trailer

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guy, Reservoir Dogs.
I remember watching the actual

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movie trailer for this.
And at the very end of it was

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like the old, the old style
trailers where they would like

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the ones that would put on the
VHS as previews before your

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movie that you wanted to watch
us.

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And the guy was saying
everyone's names.

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Harvey, Keitel, Tim Roth, they
are the Reservoir Dogs.

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I remember exactly how he said.
I think it's a great.

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In my mind now.
Yeah.

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Oh man.
Dude, we should just like

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professionally make 90s VHS
style, previews for modern

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movies Brie Larson, she's the
Captain Marvel, the Captain

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Marvel, the Captain Marvel.
Hey man, how you doing today?

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I'm good, dude.
Just got off work, a little bit

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ago here, sipping on some
whiskey.

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Talking about his friend,
talking about Tarantino, Talking

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about cutting people's ears off,
you know, sometimes you just

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have a bad day, Brad, what can
you say?

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I don't know if that guy was
having a bad day, I'm pretty

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sure he's having the best day of
his life.

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Was enjoying the hell out of
that?

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He sure was.
So Brad, this is at least our

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fourth, Tarantino movie.
We've done Inglorious Bastards.

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We've done Pulp Fiction.
We've done Django, we've done

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this.
I think, I think that's right.

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I forget was Django, chained up.
No, he was.

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He was This was the whole the
latter part where Django gets

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Unchained.
Oh, okay.

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Gotcha.
Yeah, it wasn't quite sure I've

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had the circled on my calendar
for a long time now, because I

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think it's one of the few
remaining Tarantino films that

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you had not seen before watching
it for this podcast.

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And I, oh, I knew I could only
go so long holding off on it

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before, you know, eventually you
would just cave and watch it.

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So I'm really glad we got to it
while you were still able to you

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know, contain yourself and wait.
To do it for the pile cast.

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I like that.
You make me sound like a 15

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year, old virgin, trying to keep
himself from Tarantino has just,

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it's just barely able to keep
myself from Tarantino long

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enough to experience it with
you.

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Bob Reservoir, Dogs is just
basically your prom night.

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Yeah man and it wasn't even like
a satisfying prom night.

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Oh oh shots fired at Reservoir
Dogs.

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Brad, lets you know what?
Let's just Dive Right In.

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Then I want to hear your initial
thoughts on the movie.

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Even before we get into Brad,
explains you wash it for the

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first time you've seen enough,
Tarantino movies.

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Now that you can see the
blueprint for what a Tarantino

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movie is going to me?
I had an idea.

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Yeah.
Where we were going, how was

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this different than what you may
have been expecting and what was

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it that let you down?
Um, I mean first off it's a lot

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shorter than almost any other
Tarantino film.

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Much shorter.
Yeah, and I honestly like that,

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like we've watched the we're at
the end of season 4.

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Which means we're at what 100
and over 120 movies.

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Now.
Yeah, over 120 movies.

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Plus some, you know, we've done
some moves for bonus episodes.

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I've watched one or two movies
outside the podcast.

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So like in the past two and a
half, almost three years now,

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I've watched over 150 movies,
I'm getting to the point where I

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value.
A succinct movie.

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Oh yeah, right.
Like like I always appreciate,

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you know, an epic, a Lord of the
Rings type of

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three-and-a-half-hour, just
over, you know, overarching,

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massive story, I love it.
It's great, it's fun.

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But there is something about a
movie that tells a story in an

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hour and a half in a unique fun,
interesting way that I can get

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down with.
So, honestly, Bob, I think that

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what's going to happen is Is
something that's a little bit

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different for this podcast.
I feel like a lot of times you

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and I will speak really poorly
of a movie but then still like

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give it a decent score because
like we still like the movie

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like honestly.
Like I think about that with

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gladiator, we kind of like
pooped on Gladiator the whole

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time but then I still gave it
like, you know, an 8 out of 10

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because I still like the movie.
I think the opposite is going to

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happen today.
Honestly there's a lot that I

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liked about this movie.
There's a lot that I was in.

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Impressed by I think for a
rookie director Tarantino

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established himself right away
as somebody who is eccentric

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unique interesting who's always
going to hold your attention.

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Like I think you see Tarantino's
fingerprints all over this movie

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as you do with every one of his
movies.

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So I'm going to say a lot of
nice things today but I don't

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know if I'm going to come out to
a really high score and I think

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it's because if I had to boil it
down, This movie just feels

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mean, mmm.
I don't know like how else to

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say it?
And it's not even like, I don't

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know, we've talked about the
Coen Brothers, right?

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And that a lot of their movies
are nihilistic, there is no

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point to anything.
Like death is just a part of our

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world.
Like, it doesn't feel nihilistic

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and it doesn't remind me of a
cone brother movie in that way.

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But there does seem to be this
pointlessness about the movie.

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And just Just, I don't know.
The brutality here.

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Just feels different than other
Tarantino films.

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I don't know.
My like, way off base here.

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Are you coming from a different
angle?

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No, you're not off base and Brad
this time around watching the

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movie for me.
Well, actually, let me just step

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back and give my kind of
personal history with the movie.

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So I think I watched this movie
for the first time right before.

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High school, I was in, like, 8th
grade.

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I was about 13, 14 years old,
and what?

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Don't let your 13 year old.
Watch this movie.

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Yeah.
Was a mistake.

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First of all, just just so, you
know, I'm just giving you some

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friendly parenting advice here.
Really appreciate that one, man.

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Yeah, no, no problem, dude.
And and I knew that Tarantino

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was the cool filmmaker.
You know what I mean?

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Just from having like, older
cousins, who were into Tarantino

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and knowing his reputation,
knowing about Pulp Fiction, I

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saw all his movies too young and
I really, really loved this

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movie as a teenager.
And I look back on myself as a

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teenager.
And, honestly, Brad, like, allow

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me to generalize.
Hear about generations of people

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but I think raising children has
taught me that like toddlers are

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very very selfish because they
don't know any better and

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honestly I think teenagers are
very very selfish because they

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don't know any better and I used
to be able to watch movies where

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people were discarded and human
bodies were maimed and things

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like that and and be completely
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And not really put myself in
anybody shoes or think about the

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fact that like even though this
is a What their portrayal on

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screen is real human Carnage.
I think as an adult.

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Now, I can't do that anymore.
I don't have that distance

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anymore.
We talked about this a little

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bit with Saving Private Ryan and
I just I can't do it anymore.

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And I watched this movie this
time and I found myself feeling

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incredibly uncomfortable at
parts of this film especially

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that torture sequence.
That mr.

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Blond has.
And you know, I know that the

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the famous thing about it is
they don't show the guys are

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getting cut off, they pan away.
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And a lot of it is that kind of
hitchcockian thing of like, your

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mind is filling in the gaps of
what's happening.

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But I mean, honestly, there's
enough violence on screen that

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you see him slashes face with a
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You see him dumped gasoline on
him and threatened to burn him

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alive.
It's just, it's too much for me.

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I think at points.
And there's probably people

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listening to this podcast now
that are rolling their eyes and

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ready to turn it off.
I don't want to be the guy

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that's like moralizing about
this movie, but I do think that

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just personally I'm in Different
place in terms of what I can

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engage with.
Then I was when I was a teenager

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and I just thought it was cool
to see violent things on screen.

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Does that make sense?
Oh like 100% for a while.

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Now, I have just felt very
similarly to you.

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I on-screen deaths can affect
you and it's not every single

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one, but the way that he
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I don't know, man.
I just I just kind of struggled

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with it.
It didn't like, derailed.

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A movie for me.
I'm not going to give it like a

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four out of ten.
It's not like it's a bad movie,

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honestly.
Like I said, I feel like I have

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a lot of nice things to say
about it.

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I think that the way that
Tarantino takes a classic bank

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robbery film and he cuts the
bank robbery part completely out

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of the movie, is absolutely
brilliant.

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Yeah.
It focuses on the important

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things which is like, how are we
going to get away from the cops?

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How are we going to get away
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Can we trust each other?
Like and it puts them These like

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super realistic raw, human
places of like, who do I trust?

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How can I survive, how, you
know, how can I get out of this

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with my sanity intact?
Like, I really like the human

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elements that he kind of draws
out of this movie and the way he

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tells the story, honestly, it
really makes me think of Dog Day

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Afternoon.
Like if anything, I feel like

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Dog Day Afternoon is is the
exact same movie and yet

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portrayed, I'd oppositely like
in Dog Day Afternoon.

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The entire movie is The Heist
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Whereas this movie, it portrays,
a lot of the same emotions and

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like, dilemmas that these
robbers are facing just from a

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different angle.
I think it's really good point.

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And I, before I move on, I just
want to go back briefly to the

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point you made before about how
this feels different.

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Even then, Tarantino's, other
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portrays its violence, and I was
kind of thinking about that as

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you were talking Brad because I
think you're right.

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Tarantino has found a way in all
of his subsequent films to do.

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I think, one of two things and
the first is he either finds a

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way to make a Redemptive Ark out
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So think you know, Pulp Fiction
you've got Jules as Redemption

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as opposed to what happens to
Vincent Django Unchained.

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You have him winning back his
wife and defeating you know the

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evil slave master.
You America Kappa?

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Yeah you've got Inglourious
Basterds.

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I mean the kill Hitler and
shoshana gets her revenge.

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There is there's some sort of
Redemptive Arc there or I think

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the other tack that he kind of
takes is if he is going to be

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kind of ultra violent, he does
it towards people who you really

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know, deserve it again,
Inglourious Basterds like the

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way they kill the Nazis in that
movie is so over-the-top and

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gratuitous and kind of
stomach-churning but at the end

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of the day you're like well I
mean they are Nazis, you know

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what I mean?
And then you the same thing with

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Django the way Django storms in
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kills everybody in that house.
At the end of the day you're

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like well I mean you guys have
discarded humans as things that

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you own and that you can easily
get rid of for years and years

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and years.
You kind of had it coming to

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you.
So I think he's found ways to

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channel those those impulses in
ways that are like a lot more

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palatable to an audience and
this one he hadn't quite figured

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out that he needed to have that
balance yet.

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Yeah, honestly, as you're as
you're saying this it made me

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think about the opening scene
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Words, and I bring it up for two
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Number one because it's just a
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about and every podcast ever.
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indiscriminate well actually
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specific violence that Christoph
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Like do you spend enough time
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scene as he conversed?
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you begin to understand who he
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What he's trying to do.
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more sense whereas with, you
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Blond, you just don't really
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psychotic, like sure he was in
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That doesn't make somebody want
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Cut off a cops here. / his face
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Set him on fire while he's
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Like that is a level of violence
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character that Tarantino has
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And I think that might be at the
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about this movie.
Well if I can you know Pat both

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of us on the back here.
I think we're making some good

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points but we have gone a little
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Our episodes are normally
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So let's pull back a little bit.
I want to do.

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Explains.
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the first part of this episode
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liked about the movie, because
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There is a lot to like here, I
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podcast a few weeks ago, and
they were talking about, what do

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you look for in a debut film?
How do you know if somebody's

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made a good debut?
How do you start kind of

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championing a new filmmaker?
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I'm not looking for a perfect
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indications that this person
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doing and even if It does even
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And they're taking big swings,
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like they're going to come to a
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I think it's a good first film.
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Pulp Fiction, like at all, but
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So, there's a lot to talk about
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I like, I think we should kind
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half and then it'll get back
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And that means that it's time
for Brad explains like 15

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minutes into the podcast bread.
This is a deal, this is the part

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of the podcast, where Brad
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movie that he has just seen
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And this is the first time with
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I feel like we kind of did give
the plot already but Brad, you

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have 60 seconds on the clock.
To talk about anything else.

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You might want in this movie,
can you break down the plot of

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Reservoir Dogs, a bunch of
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Make a plan to Rob.
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goes wrong and the majority of
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warehouse they're supposed to
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different characters, mistrust
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they've been set up.
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in their midst and undercover
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One of the characters is an
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undercover cop gets one of the
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with his life, which leads to
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In the end, a lot of death.
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That was that was only 35
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I mean, just like Tarantino I
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You certainly did, man.
All right, Brad, I think a good

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place to start.
Here is to give a little bit of

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background on Tarantino himself.
Bob Bob, we already started

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like, 15 minutes.
Oh, I'm just getting started,

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man.
Okay, that was the warm-up.

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She's this gonna be gone with
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Gone.
With the Wind episode

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Tarantino's story, you know, as
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In his origin story has become
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I mean, he was obsessed with
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La.
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called video archives, where he
became the basically, an

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encyclopedia of all kinds of
movies from French, New Wave

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films to American exploitation,
and B movies, and all of that

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knowledge comes out in his
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And I think that it's really
important for us.

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Brad as, you know, like, 30 year
old guys, to put a movie like

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this into Do historical context
because I watched this movie and

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it is very obvious that
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right?
You've got guys riding around in

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cars talking about what was on
TV in the 70s and it's like

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that's a Hallmark, that's a
staple of the Tarantino

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Universe.
But I also noticed that the

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dialogue isn't quite as sharp
not quite as directed.

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There are times where I think
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it doesn't quite work as well as
it does in movies like Pulp

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Fiction.
But I think it's important to

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keep in mind.
Hey, this is his first movie and

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be what he was really
introducing with his style of

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screenwriting was something that
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all at this time.
Like you're coming out of the

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1980s where your idea of an
action movie, is something that

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starred either Jean-Claude Van
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or Sylvester Stallone.
And the dialogue was much more

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stilted.
You had these like roided-out,

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guys, and then you have
Tarantino, Being in.

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And even though we look at
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kind of like heightened language
that people don't really use

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what Tarantino was actually
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the movies that wasn't there
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And I think sometimes it's hard
for people our age to look at

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Tarantino and think realism.
But you know, people were asking

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him about his style of writing
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the time.
I'm so sick of movies where the

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only thing people talk about is
the plot like in our day to day

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lives, we Don't talk about the
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We talked about everything else
but the plot and so I want I

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want to give a Vibe.
I want to give a sense that

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these people even though they're
committing these acts even

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though they're, you know,
committing a heist, they're just

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kind of regular people.
And they watch all the same

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things on TV, we do and they're
going to talk about those things

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and I think watching the movie
now with 30 years of Tarantino

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between me and it, I'm so used
to a Tarantino style that it

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kind of reflects Italy on this
movie, but I think as kind of a

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cultural moment as like, a
turning point, this is actually

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a really important movie.
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I mean, if you wanted to like
reduce Tarantino's dialogue

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style down to a single scene, I
think you could do it with the

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opening scene of this movie,
like it's just a bunch of

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criminals that are out to
breakfast together and they're

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talking about different things
that they care about the one

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guys, talking about the music
that's on the radio.

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Yo, which is kind of, you know,
sets it up for the rest of the

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movie to have that music
playing, you know?

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But then they get into this long
argument about tips that feels

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kind of inane and meaningless,
but that's the important part

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about it.
These are just guys that

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disagree on whether or not you
should tip like, like, yes,

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they're criminals, but it gives
it kind of a, they're just

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another one of us, type of feel,
it forces, the audience to

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identify.
The bad guys in the movie.

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And, you know, that's always a
trick that directors can play on

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the audience of like, really.
Like, these are the guys you

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identify with, but it's true.
And I think that Tarantino does

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a phenomenal job of representing
real life in the midst of a very

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unreal Movie World.
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from this early stage, he knows
when his characters are getting

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kind of too talky, and he needs
to insert some sort of punch

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line or joke.
I'm thinking of the scene, where

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mr.
White, and mr.

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Orange or kind of sitting in the
parking lot outside of the the

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Diamond wholesaler and their
scope in the place out.

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And they're talking about
exactly what they're going to do

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during the heist and mr.
Orange asks like what do you do?

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If somebody gives you crap and
he starts talking about the

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manager and how he's not
supposed to stand in your way,

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and if he gets in your way, cut
off his little finger and it's

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this really horrifying moment of
like, oh my God, like I knew

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this guy was bad, but I didn't
think he was capable of doing.

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Something like that.
Now, there's a manager that's

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different story.
The manager is no better than

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the fuck around.
So if you get one that's giving

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you a static, he probably thinks
he's a real cowboys.

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You got to break that son of a
bitch into.

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You want to know something, he
won't tell you cut off one of

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his fingers, the little one
then, tell him his thumbs.

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Next after that, I'll tell you
few years, ladies underwear.

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I'm hungry.
Let's get a taco.

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And right then he inserts the
joke of like Harvey Keitel and

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finishes saying this horrific
thing and then he's like I'm

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hungry, let's go get a taco and
then that's that's the end of

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the scene.
And I do think that even from

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that early stage, Tarantino
knows that he can lighten a

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moment where he can kind of
juxtapose the horrific lie

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violent with the the kind of
satirical.

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Dude.
That was a scene that I actually

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wanted to point out.
I there was just something about

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the way he goes cut off his Is a
little finger soon as you

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threatened to cut off his thumb.
He'll do anything you want.

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I'm hungry.
Let's go get a taco.

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Like the the timing like I mean
we haven't gotten into

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performances yet but keitel's
timing with that joke and the

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way it he just throws it away.
Oh it's just brilliant.

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Well let's go ahead, let's get
into performances because that's

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another thing that I think this
movie really has working in its

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favor is that top to bottom
These performances are not just

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good, I think they're all pretty
great and some of them are over

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the top of the characters are
over-the-top and there's really

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nobody for me.
I mean there's maybe one that we

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can nitpick about but no one
really stood out to me as being

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like okay this persons in the
wrong movie or this person's

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just a really bad actor keitel's
great.

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I think Tim Roth is just
incredible like do you have to

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play the levels of different,
you know just being in immense

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pain for as long as he was and
during The production, he would

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lay in those fake pools of blood
so long that the lights would

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kind of bake the blood and it
would get to him stuck to the

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floor that have to, like, peel
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So, just the commitment to the
role was, was huge, but then

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when you find out about him as
the undercover cop, and they do

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his flashback, he's just
incredible, man, he's so so

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good.
But you've got early Steve

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Buscemi in this movie, I think
Michael Madsen doing his best.

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Clint Eastwood is really, really
good as well, honestly, Brad I

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liked everyone in this movie.
Yeah, I mean even when when Tim

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Roth is telling his Handler
about what's his name, Joe?

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Acaba de the cabinet.
Thank you when he's talking

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about Joe, Cabot, he goes.
Yeah, you know the the Silver

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Surfer thing and he's like he's
the thing.

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Like as soon as he says that
you're like, yeah, he is 100%

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the thing but the way that they
have that conversation, I think

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it highlights how Tarantino
understands how humans

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communicate and I think that's
one of the reasons.

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He's so effective with his
dialogue, with his writing with

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his movies, is that he
understands that humans, don't

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communicate.
That the way that we often do in

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movies, like we don't all speak
like Cary Grant, you know, and

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so we use metaphors, we use pop
culture references to describe

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our real life because those are
the things that we watch and

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grow up with, and matter to us.
And so, it's little moments like

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that.
Where the writing is on point

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but then you have the actors
that are just it's just so

444
00:24:33,700 --> 00:24:38,300
believable and it did they give
such a sincere performance that

445
00:24:38,300 --> 00:24:41,800
I'm just really drawn in by who
they are in this movie.

446
00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:45,100
And and really I think that
Harvey Keitel kind of stands out

447
00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:48,200
for me in this movie.
And for what I've read a lot of

448
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:53,200
people have said that I just for
me the way he defends Tim Roth,

449
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:58,800
at the end of the movie and then
the anguish on his Face.

450
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,100
As he as Tim Roth tells him that
he's actually a cop.

451
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:07,100
That was just convincing.
It was emotional.

452
00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:10,700
It was heartfelt.
I just thought that Keitel did a

453
00:25:10,700 --> 00:25:13,400
masterful job, especially with
that scene.

454
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,900
He's so good in this movie.
And even when you know, his

455
00:25:16,900 --> 00:25:20,700
true, New York accent pops
through, I did appreciate like

456
00:25:20,700 --> 00:25:23,900
the many points where he tried
to do a Wisconsin accent because

457
00:25:23,900 --> 00:25:26,100
yeah, because even at the
beginning of the movie, I was

458
00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:28,600
like, he said that weird and
then you find out Either that

459
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,600
he's from Milwaukee and I'm like
oh that's why okay, that makes a

460
00:25:31,608 --> 00:25:35,000
lot more sense now but that
actually reminds me to talk a

461
00:25:35,008 --> 00:25:39,300
little bit more about Keitel the
person because he was known for

462
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,200
really being a champion of
independent cinema like

463
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,500
throughout the 70s 80s 90s.
You know he worked with Scorsese

464
00:25:46,700 --> 00:25:48,400
when Scorsese was just getting
started.

465
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,900
He found this script by
Tarantino helped, pay for the

466
00:25:51,900 --> 00:25:54,600
movie and you know basically
said an exchange like I want to

467
00:25:54,608 --> 00:25:58,000
be in the movie obviously but
Tarantino pays him back.

468
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,100
With Pulp Fiction where he gets
to be the wolf.

469
00:26:00,300 --> 00:26:03,500
I just think that that Keitel is
sometimes underappreciated for

470
00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:07,200
how much he was willing to work
for like nothing just because he

471
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,500
loves movies and he loves giving
people their shot at making

472
00:26:11,500 --> 00:26:15,400
something great and Brad,
honestly, as I watched this

473
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,900
movie, it's been a long time
since we've watched a film that

474
00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:23,000
was this low budget and I don't
just mean like, it didn't cost a

475
00:26:23,008 --> 00:26:26,600
lot to make, but also, when you
were making an independent film

476
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,600
in 1992, it's a lot different.
Making a self-financed movie in

477
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:36,800
2020 where we have 4K you know,
8K cameras that you can get and

478
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,300
everything can look cinematic if
you just have the right computer

479
00:26:39,300 --> 00:26:41,300
program to color grade, it the
right way.

480
00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:47,500
Like there was a there's a Vibe
and a rhythm and a feel to True

481
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,800
Indie movies of this time
period.

482
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,700
It's just kind of like it's a
little shaggier.

483
00:26:52,700 --> 00:26:55,700
Like there's a lot more handheld
stuff and you know you talked

484
00:26:55,700 --> 00:26:57,500
about how they didn't show the
bank heist and that's

485
00:26:57,500 --> 00:26:58,900
intentional.
In the script.

486
00:26:58,900 --> 00:27:01,400
But it's also an extension of
the fact that like they didn't

487
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,400
have any money.
So like of course, they're not

488
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,500
going to film this huge Heist,
they're just going to film bits

489
00:27:05,500 --> 00:27:08,000
and pieces of the Fallout of the
heist.

490
00:27:08,500 --> 00:27:11,900
I think that Tarantino for
having nothing to work with

491
00:27:11,900 --> 00:27:14,600
here.
Money-wise does a really, really

492
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,000
good job of writing around that.
See, honestly, that gets me

493
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,800
curious.
Did this do well at the box

494
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,400
office?
No, not at all.

495
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,100
And it wasn't until I mean, it
just wasn't really picked up by

496
00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:26,000
anybody.
It wasn't released.

497
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,000
It was it film festivals.
It was Carried and, you know,

498
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,000
some theaters across the country
but it got two thumbs down from

499
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,100
Siskel and Ebert and it kind of
died and then Pulp Fiction comes

500
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:40,000
out two years later goes,
absolutely bananas and Tarantino

501
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,500
is the biggest filmmaker on the
planet for that year.

502
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,300
And then people go ReDiscover
Reservoir Dogs and it starts

503
00:27:45,300 --> 00:27:47,900
selling, you know, hundreds of
thousands of copies on home

504
00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:50,700
video, but this was one of those
movies that it had like a

505
00:27:50,700 --> 00:27:53,500
delayed response.
Yeah, I mean, I just looked it

506
00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:57,600
up, it made 2.8 million dollars.
And I think it cost like two

507
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,500
million to make to knit budget
was 1.2.

508
00:28:00,500 --> 00:28:02,600
There you go.
So it doubled its money.

509
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,900
And that's that's the mark of a
good movie, right?

510
00:28:04,900 --> 00:28:08,100
It's a hit it's a hit 2.8
million.

511
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,000
Yeah.
I mean it is fascinating because

512
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,900
growing up like I heard about
Reservoir Dogs, I heard about

513
00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:16,200
Pulp Fiction.
I heard about these movies as

514
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,600
like, you know, Tarantino
Classics, you have to watch

515
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,600
them.
There's some of the greatest

516
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,800
movies ever made and so, you
know, and then I saw Pulp

517
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,400
Fiction and I was like holy
crap.

518
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,100
It really Is one of the greatest
movies ever made.

519
00:28:28,300 --> 00:28:31,500
And so coming into Reservoir
Dogs, I think my expectations

520
00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:35,700
were I think understandably
really, really high.

521
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,900
And I like I said, I like a lot
of this movie.

522
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,000
I'm still just not certain why I
don't like the movie.

523
00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:46,700
Well, I think we're going to
explore that in the second half

524
00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:48,700
Brad.
And before we hit pause and

525
00:28:48,700 --> 00:28:51,600
drink our whiskey, I do want to
just mention one more thing that

526
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,400
I really loved about the movie.
And that was not just the

527
00:28:55,408 --> 00:28:58,100
convention.
Of of cutting back and showing

528
00:28:58,100 --> 00:29:03,500
each character's origin but also
the way they do it specifically

529
00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:05,600
with mr.
Orange, where he is,

530
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,800
constructing this entire
identity.

531
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,300
That is bullshit.
But he becomes so convincing at

532
00:29:11,300 --> 00:29:14,500
it that when he's telling the
commode story as they call it in

533
00:29:14,508 --> 00:29:18,300
the movie that Tarantino
actually films it as if it

534
00:29:18,300 --> 00:29:20,900
really happened.
And so you've got like a movie

535
00:29:20,900 --> 00:29:23,000
within a movie.
You've got a character

536
00:29:23,300 --> 00:29:27,100
constructing, a fake story
Within The fake story that

537
00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:30,600
you're watching, so welcoming
and who's standing there.

538
00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:36,200
For Los Angeles, County
Sheriff's and a German Shepherd.

539
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,300
They're waiting for you.
Most fun stops hanging out of

540
00:29:41,300 --> 00:29:43,600
many from talking.
My walk through the door.

541
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,500
They asked about the talking
about me.

542
00:29:45,500 --> 00:29:50,500
Look, that that's hard man.
That's a hard situation.

543
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:58,600
German Shepherd starts barking.
I mean obviously he's barking at

544
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:03,300
me.
All my senses blood in my veins.

545
00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:07,100
Everything I am screaming take
off, man, just bail.

546
00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:10,800
Just get the fuck out of there
and it's an incredibly

547
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,200
inventive.
I don't know five minutes of

548
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,200
screen time, you've got this
swirling camera that's going all

549
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,800
around Tim Roth.
As he's reciting the story

550
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:24,700
you've got just perfectly casted
like state troopers in that

551
00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:26,800
bathroom.
Like those guys, if they're not

552
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,000
actually cops they look just and
behave just like cops, like it

553
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,400
was perfect casting and I just
kind of love that even in the

554
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,800
middle of this, very
claustrophobic movie, you have

555
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:42,400
this inventive artistic
departure of the commode story

556
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,400
and the way they choose to show
it on screen.

557
00:30:44,700 --> 00:30:47,200
Yeah.
And if anything like you said

558
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,100
earlier when you're looking for
signs of a great director,

559
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:53,500
you're not looking for a perfect
first movie you're just looking

560
00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:57,500
for signs of greatness.
And I think that that scene like

561
00:30:57,500 --> 00:30:59,800
you said it's a sign of future
greatness.

562
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:05,200
That Tarantino isn't just he's
not just thinking along one vein

563
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,800
of movie.
He's not just saying, okay, this

564
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,800
is going to be a one stage setup
where the whole, you know, it's

565
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,100
going to be like a play, where
they're all in the one spot,

566
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:16,800
like he goes.
Let's jump outside of that and

567
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,500
see what we can do with mr.
Oranges story, and, and with

568
00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:23,400
some of the other flashbacks I
you know, we can talk about

569
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,300
non-sequential, you know.
I'm hopping movies that

570
00:31:27,300 --> 00:31:30,900
Tarantino likes to do and you
see it here.

571
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,900
You see them jumping back and
forth from the past to the

572
00:31:34,900 --> 00:31:37,800
present and he does it to great
effect.

573
00:31:38,300 --> 00:31:39,700
Alright.
Brad I think it's time for us to

574
00:31:39,700 --> 00:31:40,900
hit pause here.
What do you say?

575
00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:44,900
We try this Weller foolproof.
Let's get to it.

576
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:26,100
Alright.
Today we are checking out Weller

577
00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:28,400
foolproof.
Now Brad it has been a minute

578
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,200
since we've had some Weller on
this show.

579
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,500
We've tried the Special Reserve.
We've tried the antique we've

580
00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:37,000
tried the Weller. 12-year now
we're moving on up into Weller

581
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,600
foolproof.
This is a newer release it just

582
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,700
started being released in 2019
by Buffalo Trace if you remember

583
00:32:43,700 --> 00:32:47,200
Weller is is there weeded
bourbon it's probably the most

584
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,800
famous weeded bourbon on the
It's become because it's Buffalo

585
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,400
Trace.
Very hard to find.

586
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,700
I know that there are lots of
states, where even Weller

587
00:32:54,700 --> 00:32:58,400
antique is selling for like,
$300, a bottle, which is just

588
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,100
nuts.
Because like, even here in Ohio

589
00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:03,000
we can find Weller antique very,
very easily.

590
00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:08,600
And like it just seems like they
have taken even like their lower

591
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,500
tier Brands and found a way to
spin them into gold in the eyes

592
00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:14,800
of their consumers.
And this one here is no

593
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,700
different Brad.
Now the whole, I'm glad I'm not

594
00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:20,000
good, I'm not going to do it.
Bob, yes, you are.

595
00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:24,800
I'm gonna stay pure today.
My heart is good.

596
00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:27,800
Let me offer this as a rebuttal,
then Brad, because I think this

597
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,300
is something the kind of angers
me.

598
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:34,900
The language of foolproof is
kind of marketing bullshit.

599
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,200
And I think that's what that's
the thing that pisses me off

600
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,400
about this release because it's
not a barrel proof whiskey.

601
00:33:40,900 --> 00:33:42,800
So, when you have a barrel
proof, whiskey, what that means

602
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,700
is, you know, it's been sitting
in the barrel for X number of

603
00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:47,400
years.
They go in, they dumped the

604
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,700
barrel, they do not cut it,
Water at all.

605
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,900
And what was in that Barrel is
what goes into the bottle.

606
00:33:52,900 --> 00:33:57,000
That's why the, the proof can
fluctuate from bottled, the

607
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,100
bottle, when you have a barrel
proof.

608
00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:04,300
Whiskey full proof is always 114
proof according to Buffalo

609
00:34:04,300 --> 00:34:08,900
Trace, because they bottle it at
the entry proof that it went

610
00:34:08,900 --> 00:34:11,800
into the barrel, which just
makes no sense to me.

611
00:34:11,900 --> 00:34:14,800
Like, so what you're saying is
it went into the barrel at aged

612
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,300
for however many years.
Let's say six to eight years.

613
00:34:17,900 --> 00:34:19,100
Some of it evaporates.
Operated.

614
00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:21,600
So, you know, the proof went up
in the barrel so they take it

615
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,199
back out of the barrel and then
dilute it.

616
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:28,199
But just back down to 114 like I
don't know why not?

617
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:31,800
Just call it well or 114 why are
you calling it foolproof?

618
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,300
It's not full because you're
cutting it with water.

619
00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:36,500
See I'm getting going, already
bread.

620
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,500
Bob I just think it's a little
bit of a misunderstanding here.

621
00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:42,699
I think you just need to be a
little more generous.

622
00:34:42,699 --> 00:34:47,800
You shut your mouth sir.
The Buffalo Trace is a good

623
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,699
company there.
Are just looking out for their

624
00:34:49,699 --> 00:34:53,500
customers and offering them, you
know, their best understanding

625
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:56,699
of what the proof of alcohol is.
I don't know what you're getting

626
00:34:56,699 --> 00:34:59,100
up in arms about.
All right man, listen before I

627
00:34:59,107 --> 00:35:01,400
go mr.
Blond here on the my side of the

628
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,200
podcast, I need to, we need to
get into drinking this whiskey.

629
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,700
So again, this is 114 proof.
We did a bourbon Brad.

630
00:35:09,700 --> 00:35:12,100
Let Anna know, Bob, it's full
plates.

631
00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:18,400
Full equals 114, okay?
Yeah, that's just that's math.

632
00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:21,100
Didn't you learn that instinct?
What are you picking up on the

633
00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:22,000
nose here?
Brad?

634
00:35:22,300 --> 00:35:26,000
You know I had this is a really
Pleasant knows.

635
00:35:26,300 --> 00:35:29,000
It is we tee?
It is full of vanilla.

636
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,500
I think for me though the
interesting thing about Weller

637
00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:39,600
as like the like in quotations,
the weeded bourbon.

638
00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:43,900
I think that where it stands out
is that I've had Other Whiskey's

639
00:35:43,900 --> 00:35:46,400
that are weeded.
They have a wheat knows they

640
00:35:46,408 --> 00:35:51,100
have a wheat flavor.
They always taste worse off

641
00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:54,300
because of that wheat.
Like, have you ever ever you do

642
00:35:54,308 --> 00:35:58,300
you feel like you've noticed
that like it's to me a lot of

643
00:35:58,300 --> 00:36:02,100
times when something is very
weedy, I feel like it's because

644
00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:05,700
it has an aged enough, it hasn't
developed enough and it just

645
00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:08,800
kind of tastes raw.
Hmm I don't know.

646
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,600
It does.
It does that Vibe with you?

647
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,300
I really like we needed bourbon
so like I'm not quite With you,

648
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:16,300
but I do think that I agree with
you that like, you have to

649
00:36:16,300 --> 00:36:18,700
strike the right balance when it
comes to a weeded bourbon.

650
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,300
Yeah, can get kind of weird.
Yeah, and I will say, I've never

651
00:36:23,300 --> 00:36:26,600
had a Weller that doesn't strike
the right balance.

652
00:36:26,900 --> 00:36:31,400
Like for me, this just has a
beautifully soft wheat that goes

653
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,200
along with a lot of vanilla.
There's some butter cream and

654
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,400
caramel kind of going on here to
me.

655
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,800
This is just incredibly sweet.
It's just decadent on it.

656
00:36:42,900 --> 00:36:47,100
Snow's once again I think the
all those things but that's not

657
00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:51,100
necessarily my preferred knows
but I still really like it.

658
00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:52,600
I'll give it an 8 out of 10.
Yeah.

659
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,700
I'm also going to give it an 8
out of 10 and like it sounds

660
00:36:55,700 --> 00:36:58,900
incredibly simplistic, but the
first note I took after I knows

661
00:36:58,900 --> 00:37:01,300
it was that's a good wieder
right there.

662
00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:05,700
Like, that's exactly what it is.
I mean, it's just Weller does a

663
00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:09,300
really good job at striking that
balance of having just enough

664
00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:12,600
wheat there.
That it announces itself, but it

665
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,700
Anything over, so you're right,
I definitely said that it was

666
00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:20,200
more caramel on the nose than it
was like the classic brown sugar

667
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,800
that you sometimes get on
Bourbon.

668
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,100
I got a lot of orange peel on
this and I got a lot of clove

669
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,500
like it kind of smelled a little
bit like potpourri to me, which

670
00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:30,900
was really nice.
It was it was autumnal and I'm

671
00:37:30,900 --> 00:37:32,700
digging it at this time of year
right now.

672
00:37:32,700 --> 00:37:35,400
So yeah, it's an 8 out of 10 on
the nose for me, too.

673
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,900
Mmm, Autumn know what a what a
word.

674
00:37:38,900 --> 00:37:40,600
Good diction, sir.
Thank you.

675
00:37:42,500 --> 00:37:44,000
Yeah.
When I get into the taste on

676
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,500
this bad boy, I it is warm.
It's sweet.

677
00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:51,700
There's like a beautiful amount
of heat that matches.

678
00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:57,800
All of this caramel cream sugar
that you're getting that like it

679
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,400
almost feels like a burnt sugar
because of the heat that you're

680
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,000
getting from the 114 which isn't
like the highest proof thing

681
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,000
we've ever drank.
But it's high enough that I

682
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,700
think you're getting a lot of
flavors here that you don't

683
00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:14,500
always get on some of the lower.
Versions of while are, although

684
00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:18,300
I will say, I feel like this is
kind of similar to the Antique

685
00:38:18,300 --> 00:38:21,800
107, but I'll give it an eight
and a half on the taste.

686
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,400
I really like what they're doing
here.

687
00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:26,200
So, this is the thing that
again, it kind of pisses me off.

688
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,400
Like this is just seven proof
points higher than Weller

689
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,200
antique.
And I don't know, like, again,

690
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,200
because they are very secretive
about how long it's aged for.

691
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,700
This is not age stated.
I don't know if it's aged longer

692
00:38:39,700 --> 00:38:43,200
than antique, but antique is a
blend of things and They don't

693
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,400
put an age statement on that
either.

694
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,800
So, I mean, for all we know this
is exactly as old as antique.

695
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,000
They just don't water it down
quite as much, but you're

696
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,200
absolutely right.
Brad.

697
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,200
The, the pallet on this is
Weller antique at just a

698
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,800
slightly higher proof and that
was a huge bummer for me.

699
00:39:01,100 --> 00:39:05,000
I like it, obviously, I love
Weller antique but I found at

700
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,800
114, I found this to be pretty
mild actually, like there's

701
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,200
there's that Buffalo Trace Oak
profile.

702
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,900
I did get some citrus.
I did get some wheat but this

703
00:39:14,900 --> 00:39:18,900
was not complex at all and it
just kind of drank like your

704
00:39:18,900 --> 00:39:22,200
typical Weller antique drinks
kind of disappointing.

705
00:39:22,300 --> 00:39:25,900
And and that's a bummer for me.
So I'm going to give it a 7 out

706
00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:28,700
of 10 on taste.
I think that is probably a

707
00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:30,700
little bit better than a seven
if I'm being honest.

708
00:39:30,700 --> 00:39:34,200
But I'm at this point I'm just
comparing it to antique and

709
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,900
knowing that like they are
hyping this up as some sort of

710
00:39:36,908 --> 00:39:40,300
huge step up from antique.
I'm not seeing it and if I can

711
00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:42,800
just get it with the antique,
like why would I pay any more?

712
00:39:42,900 --> 00:39:45,500
Or money for this.
So it's a 7 out of 10 on the

713
00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:46,900
pallet for me.
Yeah.

714
00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:49,800
When I get into the finish, I
think that's where this one kind

715
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,900
of loses me a little bit, you
know, it's okey and smooth.

716
00:39:53,900 --> 00:39:56,200
There's a little bit of vanilla
that I feel like sits on my

717
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,300
palette for a long time, but
it's not a very complex finish.

718
00:40:00,500 --> 00:40:04,400
It's not a very powerful finish
that you would hope for in a, in

719
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,800
their highest proof offering.
So for me, I'll give it a 7 out

720
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,100
of 10 on the finish.
So around.

721
00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:12,800
Christmas time they sell, I
don't know.

722
00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:15,900
It's Cadbury that makes them.
It's not the Cadbury Cream Eggs

723
00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:19,100
but it's the they make like a
chocolate orange.

724
00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:21,300
You know what I'm talking about?
Like it comes in like, a solid

725
00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:23,700
thing, It smash it, and it
breaks into orange slices.

726
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,300
That's what I got on the finish
here was dark chocolate and

727
00:40:26,300 --> 00:40:31,000
orange and I really like that.
But again, it was a hint of that

728
00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:35,200
and then like, your basic
Buffalo Trace bourbon finish, it

729
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,200
was very heavily oaked for me,
more of the same.

730
00:40:39,700 --> 00:40:42,800
I like it, but I don't really
know how high I can.

731
00:40:42,900 --> 00:40:44,500
Go on my score here.
I'm just going to give it a

732
00:40:44,508 --> 00:40:48,200
seven and a half on the finish
and that takes us to overall

733
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,200
balance Once Again Brad.
I think this is a well-balanced

734
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,300
whiskey just as I do with Weller
antique it's just a little

735
00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:59,200
milder than I was anticipating
and it didn't do anything to

736
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,600
distinguish itself from the rest
of the Weller line.

737
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,400
So I'm going to give it an 8 out
of 10 on balance.

738
00:41:05,900 --> 00:41:07,800
I was just hoping it'd be a
little higher than that.

739
00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:10,700
Yeah, I'm actually right there
with you 8, out of 10.

740
00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:12,800
It's not the most complex of
Whiskey's.

741
00:41:12,900 --> 00:41:17,000
Like you know, if we're using
baseball metaphors, it's hitting

742
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,200
like a double maybe a triple on
most of the categories so I get

743
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,300
solid.
It's a, it's a good effort but

744
00:41:25,300 --> 00:41:28,400
it's not complex enough for me
to give it a really high balance

745
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,300
score.
So as I do every week, I'm going

746
00:41:31,300 --> 00:41:34,800
to give my disclaimer that this
is where things get weird, man.

747
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,100
We have just had a ton of
Buffalo Trace on the show

748
00:41:37,100 --> 00:41:39,400
lately.
I was about to say, man, I don't

749
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,600
feel like we've drank anything,
but Buffalo Trace and we need to

750
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:43,200
change.
Change them.

751
00:41:43,300 --> 00:41:45,600
This is your fault.
This is almost.

752
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,800
This is your fault.
Everything's my fault.

753
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,000
So in the state of Ohio Weller
foolproof retails for $50,

754
00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:54,600
however, that is absolute
bullshit.

755
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,600
So you're not going to get this
$50.

756
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,500
I'm telling you that right now
the supply of Weller antique,

757
00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:07,600
like, as a ratio to Weller
foolproof, I mean, it's got to

758
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:13,500
be 100 to 1.
If not more like they, A lottery

759
00:42:13,500 --> 00:42:16,600
for Weller foolproof in the
state of Ohio and I did not win.

760
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,300
So I'm still a little salty
about that but just the fact

761
00:42:19,300 --> 00:42:23,300
that this is a lottery pick as
opposed to, you know, well or

762
00:42:23,300 --> 00:42:26,900
antique which is allocated but
they release it like once a week

763
00:42:26,900 --> 00:42:28,900
and you can find it if you know
where to look for it.

764
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:32,200
I don't like it's the same price
as well or antique.

765
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,900
It's only seven proof points
higher than well are antique.

766
00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:37,500
It's way harder to get.
You have to hope you win a

767
00:42:37,508 --> 00:42:40,000
lottery or you have to go on the
secondary Market where you're

768
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,500
going to be spending from what
I'm seeing online.

769
00:42:42,500 --> 00:42:45,000
And a Average of three hundred
dollars for this bottle of

770
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,300
whiskey Brad.
It's not worth that.

771
00:42:47,300 --> 00:42:50,400
I don't even know if it's worth
retail if you have to go

772
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,600
anywhere but your local liquor
store to get it like this is not

773
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,100
worth chasing and especially
when you have Weller antique

774
00:42:57,100 --> 00:43:00,500
right there for the taking like
I would take antique over this

775
00:43:00,500 --> 00:43:04,000
every day because I know like
four stores in my area that I

776
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,000
can walk into and buy antique
and go home and be satisfied

777
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,900
like there, this is not enough
of a step up from antique to

778
00:43:11,900 --> 00:43:15,900
justify.
Any more effort, I would have to

779
00:43:15,900 --> 00:43:18,500
expend to find it.
I'm going to give this a 3 out

780
00:43:18,500 --> 00:43:23,400
of 10 on value.
Bob if if you could see me right

781
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:28,000
now you would know that I'm
like, sitting back like Emperor

782
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,600
Palpatine at the end of Return
of the Jedi, when Luke finally

783
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:37,000
takes up his lightsaber.
Like just sitting back like yes,

784
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:43,400
yes.
Good Bob yeah, man.

785
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,000
Forget Buffalo Trace.
I'll give it a three and a half

786
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,700
out of ten.
I'm coming out to a 33.5 out of

787
00:43:49,700 --> 00:43:51,100
50.
Brad, what are you coming out to

788
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,400
not mad at 35?
All right, can we just agree not

789
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,700
to recommend it?
Yeah.

790
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,300
Where does the word a 34-point
25 out of 50?

791
00:43:59,500 --> 00:44:02,200
This is a good whiskey.
It is not worth.

792
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,900
Like, if someone You know,
pulled you over in a dark alley

793
00:44:05,900 --> 00:44:07,300
inside.
Like I got a bottle for 50

794
00:44:07,300 --> 00:44:09,600
bucks.
Like, first of all, why are you

795
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,800
in a dark alley, buying whiskey,
but because Buffalo Trace makes

796
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,100
it happen.
I think that's why they're in a

797
00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:19,900
freaking dark alley.
Bob, this is good enough to

798
00:44:19,900 --> 00:44:23,500
spend 50 bucks on, but knowing
that, you have like a zero

799
00:44:23,500 --> 00:44:26,000
percent chance of aft of
actually getting this for 50

800
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,200
bucks.
I just, I can't recommend it.

801
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,000
If you can find.
Antique, just get antique

802
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,100
instead, you are not missing
anything by not having On your

803
00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:38,200
shelf or just boycott.
Buffalo Trace, don't buy any

804
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,600
other stuff.
Listen, Rebel Yell 100, that is

805
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,400
20 bucks and it is every bit as
good as well.

806
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,600
ER, I don't understand why
people don't buy that.

807
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,700
Anyway, I'm getting off topic
now, brother, Bob, you're

808
00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:54,500
bringing the word today, keep on
preaching.

809
00:44:54,900 --> 00:44:57,100
All right man, let's finish this
up and get back into talking

810
00:44:57,100 --> 00:44:58,700
about Reservoir Dogs.
What do you say?

811
00:44:58,900 --> 00:45:00,700
Yeah, let's get to it man.
I'm ready.

812
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,700
All right, so we are going to
finish up talking about

813
00:45:39,700 --> 00:45:41,900
Reservoir Dogs.
After that, incredibly

814
00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:44,600
disappointing experience that
was Weller foolproof.

815
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,300
Brad, we talked a little bit in
the first half just about how

816
00:45:49,300 --> 00:45:52,800
this movie doesn't seem to fully
click for us.

817
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,700
And for me, it was one.
It's one of those things where

818
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,800
I'm just re-evaluating it as an
adult as opposed to a teenager

819
00:45:59,100 --> 00:46:01,800
and you're right, the
mean-spiritedness of the movie

820
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,400
really shines through.
I think we've done a good enough

821
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,000
job of just kind of saying like
this is a first film.

822
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,400
It has the vibe of somebody
making their first movie.

823
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,400
It's really good.
There's a lot to like, I

824
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,300
appreciate it for what it is.
I appreciate that it gave us

825
00:46:18,300 --> 00:46:22,000
Pulp Fiction and that he uses
this as the stepping stone for

826
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,200
Pulp Fiction and that he works
The Kinks out here.

827
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,500
So that Pulp Fiction, you know,
this one crawls, so that Pulp

828
00:46:27,500 --> 00:46:30,500
Fiction can run like, I
appreciate that.

829
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,100
But there are just a few things
that I just I can't get over.

830
00:46:35,100 --> 00:46:36,700
Do you know what I mean?
There's some of the dialogues

831
00:46:36,700 --> 00:46:39,100
really clunky.
I think, especially, 30 years

832
00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:42,600
later the incredibly racist
dialogue, and the incredibly

833
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,100
homophobic dialogue is just
really cringey.

834
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:48,500
And, you know, you can, you can
argue that like, at the time

835
00:46:48,500 --> 00:46:52,100
historically, like people were
speaking in those homophobic

836
00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:53,500
ways.
Like, I understand all that, I

837
00:46:53,508 --> 00:46:56,600
get it.
But I think that there are

838
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,500
movies like Django Unchained
where people say the n-word 85

839
00:47:00,500 --> 00:47:01,900
times more than they do in this
movie.

840
00:47:01,900 --> 00:47:06,400
But because they are portrayed
as like, Like evil slave owners.

841
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,700
It's actually it comes across as
less racist than this movie does

842
00:47:10,700 --> 00:47:14,300
and Tarantino has always had to
kind of Dodge these accusations

843
00:47:14,300 --> 00:47:16,900
of racism.
Like he has a pretty famous beef

844
00:47:16,900 --> 00:47:20,300
with Spike Lee who does not like
him at all because of the way he

845
00:47:20,300 --> 00:47:23,400
uses the n-word.
So freely in his movies and I

846
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,900
honestly think like if you
wanted to make a case for Spike

847
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,500
point to this movie because it
just seems unnecessary.

848
00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:32,600
And yes, I understand that like
they are bad guys, they're

849
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,300
supposed to be villains.
Just because we find them

850
00:47:35,300 --> 00:47:38,100
relatable, you know, doesn't
mean they still don't have these

851
00:47:38,100 --> 00:47:42,400
kind of abhorrent views, but I
think at a certain point, that

852
00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:45,500
that line of thinking, only goes
so far, like, you can only

853
00:47:45,500 --> 00:47:47,800
attribute so much of it, to the
characters in the movie.

854
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,600
Before you have to say, like,
hey person who wrote the movie,

855
00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:54,200
maybe, don't do that anymore,
you know?

856
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,600
Yep, I was going to say that
exact thing, like, yep, the

857
00:47:58,607 --> 00:48:01,100
characters are really bad.
I wonder who wrote those

858
00:48:01,100 --> 00:48:03,600
characters.
I wonder who thought up of them

859
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,200
and you know, No and wrote them
down and like I don't know man.

860
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,500
It's a mystery though.
Anyway I'm sorry I'll step down

861
00:48:11,500 --> 00:48:14,900
off my soapbox Brad as we kind
of wind down here if you want to

862
00:48:14,900 --> 00:48:16,200
jump right in with your final
score.

863
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:20,100
Go right ahead but I guess I do
want to hear where you have come

864
00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:23,300
out on this movie having hashed
it out a little bit with me.

865
00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:25,700
Has it cleared up a little bit
to you?

866
00:48:26,300 --> 00:48:29,000
What doesn't work about this
movie as opposed to what did

867
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,400
work about some of his other
films?

868
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,000
Yeah I mean I really do think it
comes down to the characters.

869
00:48:34,300 --> 00:48:37,400
Like, I think he makes highly
relatable characters for the

870
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,600
large part, but they're just
not.

871
00:48:41,700 --> 00:48:45,700
There's no real character arcs.
I feel like other than really

872
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:50,600
mr.
Orange, there's no real Rhyme or

873
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:55,200
Reason other than we wanted to
steal diamonds to make money

874
00:48:55,700 --> 00:49:00,500
like when you think about the,
the motivations for characters

875
00:49:00,500 --> 00:49:03,100
in his other movies like
Inglourious Basterds.

876
00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:07,300
It's let's kill the The Nazis
and Django Unchained, it's let's

877
00:49:07,300 --> 00:49:12,700
free this, you know, man's wife
in Pulp Fiction even like Jules

878
00:49:12,700 --> 00:49:16,300
is on a spiritual Quest To Find
meaning in the world, right?

879
00:49:16,300 --> 00:49:20,700
Like even that has more of a
oomph to it than what you find

880
00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:23,800
here in Reservoir Dogs.
So, for me.

881
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,300
Yeah, I do think it kind of
cleared up some of why I don't

882
00:49:26,300 --> 00:49:29,900
care for this movie.
But once again there's a lot to

883
00:49:29,900 --> 00:49:33,400
like here there's a lot that
looks good I think for me.

884
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:40,200
It kind of comes back to the
Nolan Fanboy dilemma like just

885
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because it's a movie made by,
you know, Quentin Tarantino does

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not mean that it deserves to be
in the top 15 IMDb movies of all

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time.
You know what I mean?

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Like I don't actually know where
this is rated on IMDb but like

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you I feel like you just run
into that with Christopher Nolan

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where like his movies are just
perfect because his Fanboys say

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they are perfect and I just come
at Film Reservoir Dogs and say,

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you know what?
Like it's not perfect and that's

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okay.
Like you don't have to defend

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every single Tarantino film with
every last breath.

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Like it's okay.
That this one isn't quite as

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good.
It's still a good movie and I'm

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going to give it a 7 out of 10
for my final score.

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I think I'm also going to give
it a seven.

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I was I was leaning towards a
six and a half.

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I've seen this movie Brad.
I've got to say like, 30, 40

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times and it's never quite hit
me in the way that it did this

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time around.
So I'm going to give it the

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benefit of the doubt and kind of
up it to a 7.

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So that means we're Landing in
the exact same place here, but

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we want to know what you think.
Filmin, whiskey Nation.

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Do you love Reservoir, Dogs?
Do you think?

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We are way off base with our
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