Pulp Fiction / Weller Antique
In anticipation of Once Upon a Time...in Hollywood, Bob and Brad throw it all the way back to 1994 to celebrate the 25th anniversary of Quentin Tarantino's Pulp Fiction. Despite being one of their favorite films, the guys are shocked at how difficult it is to discuss this non-linear story.
Along the way, they talk about the film's central theme of redemption, the beauty of watching Christopher Walken craft a gross story, and Tarantino's underrated ability to get un-subtle actors to play subtle scenes.
Meanwhile, they continue the Summer of Bourbon by pouring what may be Bob's favorite all-around whiskey, Weller Antique 107. This bourbon is similar to Pappy Van Winkle in its mash bill, and because of that similarity, is getting harder to find at retail prices.
0:00 - Intro and Initial Thoughts
28:20 - Weller Antique 107 Review
38:10 - Analysis and Final Thoughts
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In 1994 director, Quentin,
Tarantino and star Samuel L
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Jackson gave the world an
explosive film that shines and
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it's introspective moments in
2019, Buffalo Trace gives us a
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whiskey that refuses to stay on
store shelves.
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The film is Pulp Fiction, the
whiskey is Weller antique and
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we'll review them both.
This is the film and whiskey
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podcast.
Welcome to the film and whiskey
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podcast, where each week, we
review a classic movie and a
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glass of whiskey.
I'm Bob book, I'm Reggie and
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this week, we are looking at the
1994 Classic Bob.
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Do you know what year it is?
Right now.
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It's 2019.
Your the means we're celebrating
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the 25th anniversary of bull
fiction.
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Last week, we looked at The Lion
King and this week, we are
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making a hard left turn and to
Tarantino, they'll but children,
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you can leave this episode.
Yeah, right now.
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Well, first of all children
while you're listening to an
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episode about whiskey, but both
of these movies are celebrating
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their 25th anniversary.
And both of these movies, have a
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tie to the current box office,
right?
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So last thing we talked about
The Lion King, there's a new
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Lion King coming out this week.
Quentin Tarantino is premiering
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his new movie Once Upon a Time
in Hollywood.
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So we figured what better time
to get in.
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The Wayback machine.
Yeah.
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And look at Pulp Fiction, you
know, this reminds me of what's
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that?
When we watch that terrible
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movie, what was it called?
Oh, yeah.
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Goodfellas.
Oh, that one.
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And it kind of how Joe Pesci was
in, Goodfellas in 1990 and also
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in Home Alone in 1990.
Yeah.
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And I'm kind of like we went
from Lion King in 1994, Temple
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fiction, in 1990, feel like Pulp
Fiction is just if scar.
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Could have really been himself,
he would have been in Pulp
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Fiction, who would have been all
of them every character in Pulp
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Fiction.
Okay.
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All right, before we get into
things, I do want to say that
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this week begins a new segment
we're doing on our podcast that
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we're calling bonus Bonanza.
Bonus Bonanza, Brad and I have
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Recording bonus episodes for
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So we've got some where we're in
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We've got a couple where we have
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Wow, yeah, Muhammad Ali's
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I'm not.
Oh yeah, I feel like it's known
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Oh, maybe some bourbon, he's a
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So Brad.
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Alright, let's get into talking
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about this movie.
We already gone off away.
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Is so I kind of Pulp Fiction,
Pulp Fiction 1994 directed by
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Quentin Tarantino.
This was his second feature
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length movie that he directed.
If you've, this is gonna be a
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fun exercise.
Yeah, you've never heard of
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Quentin Tarantino.
If somebody came to you and said
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Robert, I've never heard of
Quentin, Tarantino describe him
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to me in three words, describe,
his movies to me?
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What three words would you
choose can be consecutive into a
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statement?
Or, you know, just three random
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words, he nerdy.
Immature genius.
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I think I think with Tarantino
it's like I've seen Tarantino
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type movies done badly and I
know that one that's really
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popular would be Boondock.
Saints.the Boondock Saints to
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me, feels like a Tarantino type.
Rip off where the the
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screenwriter and director didn't
understand how to actually make
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a good movie.
Tarantino, he does dumb stuff he
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does, he is immature ridiculous,
ridiculous stuff, but he also
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knows how to craft a fantastic
movie.
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And I think that's what we have
here with politics and not just
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not just a fantastic movie.
But a fantastic story.
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Absolutely, which really drives
you through the movie and we've
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done a Tarantino film before.
Yeah, we've done Inglourious
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Basterds.
I was one of our first films
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that we granted and now we're
coming to what many would say.
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At the very least it's quite
interesting is most well-known
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absolutely if not his best film.
Yeah, for sure.
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I mean, this is the one that is
on the American Film.
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Institute's, top 100 movies of
all time.
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This is Tarantino's Master made
it to the top.
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Oh, yeah, absolutely.
I don't think, you know, Brad
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and I grew up in the Dies.
But this movie, obviously came
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out at a time.
Where we could not see it,
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right?
We were born in 1990 on the dot.
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It is impossible to overstate
how much of an impact this movie
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had on Cinema in the 1990s.
This movie came out.
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It was an independent movie,
Tarantino burst on the scene
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after Reservoir Dogs.
And this was his follow-up and
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it changed everything about how
movies were made.
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How movies were viewed?
How people wrote In the 1990s
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and Cinema ever since?
And my boys, Samuel Jackson was
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in it.
What?
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Get to talking about Samuel L
Jackson.
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But Brad, I've got some
important questions for you.
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Have you ever seen the movie
Pulp Fiction prior to this
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watch?
I feel like I remember at one
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point I had seen part of it, but
I hadn't seen all of it before.
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Okay.
So this was your first time that
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you remember, sitting down and
watching the whole thing.
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We three in one sitting.
Yeah.
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And even any even beyond that,
this is one of those movies we
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talked about this was singing in
the rain.
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Yeah, there's like YouTube
clips.
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Yeah, you movie.
You've seen bits and pieces for
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certain pieces of it but I'd
only seen like maybe the first
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half of the movie.
So, yeah, I get that.
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So this movie, it came out, 94,
John Travolta, Samuel L Jackson,
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Uma Thurman, and Bruce Willis
are the stars of this movie, it
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11, Oscar for original
screenplay.
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It was nominated for six, others
Define the category, original
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screenplay.
So original screenplay means a
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screenplay, that's not based on
something pre-existing.
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So I put it in a daze, he
Shakespeare, right?
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Exactly.
And adaptation of a book and
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adaptation of a play, those
would all be under adapted
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screenplay.
This is something that the
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author came up with on on his or
her own that was completely
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non-existent before.
It was written.
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This is a completely random
question.
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What would you do with a remake
then?
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Like, The Lion King, it would
probably be under adapted
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screenplay.
The line doesn't, would be even
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if they're writing a whole new
screenplay, they're basing, it
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off of something pre-existing.
Okay, yeah, so it won the Oscar
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for best original screenplay.
It was nominated for six more
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John Travolta for best actor.
Samuel Jackson supporting actor,
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Uma Thurman is supporting
actress.
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It was also nominated for best
editing best director and best
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picture.
Lost out on all of those.
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I think editing.
I don't know what one editing
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that year, but the editing on
this movie was so crisp and so
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sharp and just smooth.
Yeah, oh my gosh.
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So I thought yeah so I think
it's time that we get into our
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favorite segments around here.
Brad explains.
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Can we rename the segment like
Brad clumsily explains?
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Yeah, I think our listeners
already know that you're going
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to clumsily.
Explain it Brad but thanks Bobby
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so Perfection, so, Pulp Fiction,
if you haven't seen it, Before,
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and I'm just gonna blanket
statement right now.
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This is another one of those
movies that is, to use the only
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word to describe as gratuitous.
Hmm, it's a gratuitous movie.
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It indulges itself, if you're
going to watch it, know that
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lots of bad things happen,
honestly, I think one of my
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favorite Parts about the movie
is the opening scene when you
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know, it's black and then the
definition of the word pulp
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comes onto the screen.
Yeah.
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And it starts with like
basically a mushy smushy
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substance is the first
definition.
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And the second definition is a
novel or literature that is
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written on crappy material about
crappy subjects.
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Right.
Right.
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That's pretty much what it's
about like CD type character.
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Yeah.
So, the essence was that Pulp
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Fiction was, would you say in
the 50s?
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60s 70s.
Yeah.
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And before that too, and even
sure that they would be these
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little, like, paperback, novels,
like thing about the Beatles,
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you know, paperback Rider.
Yeah, that they would write
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these little like, crappy
paperback novels that were
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printed on crappy material.
And they're just kind of seedy
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stories about crappy people.
And if I had to wrap up my
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summary, that would be it.
Yeah, but more fully there is a
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Crime Boss named Marsellus
Wallace.
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And he has to kind of goons that
work for him.
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Who rough people up.
They take care of the things
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that you would imagine.
Mobsters have to take care of
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and the film is separated into
three different stories story.
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Yes.
Yeah.
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And I think that's the thing
about Pope stories is that you
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would buy one book of Pope
stories, Pulp Fiction, and it
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would usually have three or
four, completely different
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stories that had possibly
nothing to do with each other or
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maybe one character that would
go from the one of the next kind
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of an anthology.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
And that's what the movie is.
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An anthology of three stories.
It's about these two hit men who
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work for their boss.
Marsellus Wallace.
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It's hard to sum up this movie
has a lot going on.
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Yeah, Vincent Vega played By
John Travolta.
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He does a hit in the first part,
he takes marcellus's wife out on
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a date, that's not a date.
He's just shown her a good time
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in the second half and then the
third half, he's nothing and
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Samuel Jackson quotes, the Bible
and kills people.
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So I'm gonna jump into Brad
explains here because I think
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you're right.
Like, there are three distinct
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Stories being told and sometimes
characters from one story what
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kind of filter in and out of
another story.
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And one thing that Tarantino did
is he told All stories out of
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chronological order for the
most, the biggest impact.
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So, the last story in the movie,
actually, probably happens close
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to the beginning of the
chronological story, right?
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But I think it might be more
helpful to talk about the fact
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that all of the stories in this
movie, I think come down to what
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the characters are offered at
the end of the story.
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And I think that all three of
these stories are about
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characters who do really seedy
stuff, finding a Saving Grace.
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And if you look at each Each one
of these three stories, that's
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kind of where the narrative
goes.
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You have a setup, that's
familiar to you.
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So like the The Hitman taking
out his boss's wife for dinner,
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then you have that super
familiar, super familiar.
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Yeah, then you have something
that comes in complicates it
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that Tarantino throws in that
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Tarantino's doing is, he is
trying to get you off balance,
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like he's trying to throw a
curveball at you that you've
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never seen before.
And so in that first story where
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John Travolta takes Uma Thurman
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accidentally overdoses.
Heroin while in his company and
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he has to rescue.
This guy's wife or face certain
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death, right?
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story, you have those characters
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Saving Grace, which is she gets
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with the boss Marcellus and they
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where John Travolta kind of
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night and that's the end of it
because what you expect is the
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big conflict is is John Travolta
going to have sex with his
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bosses.
A wife and what Tarantino's
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Rosie was something completely
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redemption for both characters.
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for me about that moment is that
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forever to get there.
No not at all, we talked about
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this and then glorious bastards
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wants to to stretch that rubber
band of tension and of suspense
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to the point where you think it
can't stretch anymore without
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And then stretch it three times
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further, right?
And he does that three times in
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this movie and each, you know,
story that he tells ya and
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you're just always on the edge
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Absolutely funny thing by Europe
is what this little different.
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I mean, they got the same shit
over there.
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They got.
Here was just just there's a
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little different example.
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Well you can walk into a movie
theater in Amsterdam and buy a
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beer and I don't mean just like
a little paper cut.
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I'm talking about a glass of
beer and in Paris, you can buy a
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McDonald's.
Do you know what they call a
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quarter pounder with cheese?
A little color quarter pounder
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with cheese?
Get the metric system, what are
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they called?
They call it a Royale weeks ago.
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The Big Mac Big Mac Big Mac, but
they call it Le Big Mac.
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So, the way this movie is set
up, was obviously not common at
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the time, telling a movie out of
chronological order, and this
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movie kind of gets held up a lot
as an example of postmodern art,
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because of the fact that it just
doesn't care about structure.
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It doesn't care about any of
these things, Tarantino kind of
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came out and said, listen, part
of the fun is that if you
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understand movies, you're
watching the Second Story which
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is about Bruce Willis as a boxer
and you think you're watching
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the boxing, He body and soul,
and then suddenly the characters
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in that story, turn a corner and
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Deliverance.
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Deliverance, it's a movie where
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by, you know, people that live
in the mountains and they get
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raped essentially.
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second movie.
And Tarantino says you're
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sitting, there is no viewer.
Like, what, how did I get into
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Deliverance, I was in a boxing
movie, what's going on here?
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his whole goal.
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Like I said, is to keep you off
balance to throw things at you
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that you've never seen too
complicated.
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You Asian in a way that it's
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speaking just for myself here,
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but I think that every single
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movie, it works 100%.
I would like for you to take an
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Instagram pole.
Yeah, with this clip.
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of our listeners would have
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heard of body and soul or
delivering.
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I've never heard of body and
soul, I've heard of Deliverance.
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It was, it's a really famous
movie from the 70s, okay?
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But Tarantino's, whole
background is, right?
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He didn't go to film school.
He worked in a video store.
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He's a nerd like he Watched
every movie in the video store a
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hundred times.
And that's how he got his whole
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knowledge of how to make a
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I was watching movies called
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And deliverance and thinking I
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should match these up and go
home movie.
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because when you watch Tarantino
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films, he has such a unique
style.
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most obvious take ever, but he's
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just so unique in the way that
he makes a film.
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I never thought of it before
that he really does.
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Do his best to mash different
movie Styles together.
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And he does it so poetically and
interestingly that he can pull
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it off.
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But I don't know if many
directors can, I don't think
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they can't either.
And part of the fun of watching
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this movie, is, looking at how
each one of these stories
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Tarantino kind of has a prologue
to each one of them.
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Like, I think about the second
story about the boxer with Bruce
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Willis, there's this random
four-minute prologue with
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Christopher Walken, Christopher
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And I want to get to that later
because it's one of my favorite
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scenes in the whole movie.
But the first story has a
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prologue with them killing the
guys, and then the Second Story
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has a prologue with Christopher
Walken talking to a young Bruce
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The third story has a prologue,
which is the prologue to the
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whole movie at the beginning.
And you have to think back to
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ours and we, and we thought that
Inception Was A New Concept,
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right?
Exactly.
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But the way this movie is,
structured is absolutely
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brilliant and it's set up that
each of these stories are put in
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their place to have the maximum
impact on you.
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One of the most interesting
things for me about the third
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Act of the movie was that you
already knew that Vincent was
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dead.
Yeah.
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So, that's like, so interesting.
It's been 25 years.
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We can spoil everything about
the movie, but John Travolta's
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character Vincent.
He gets killed by Bruce Willis
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in the second story.
And then, the third story is
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basically a jump back in time to
something that happened earlier.
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And one of the funny things
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about how this movie was made,
and it's really unpopular to
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talk about this human being now,
but the movie was produced by
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Harvey Weinstein at Miramax
Studios.
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When Harvey Weinstein, was given
the script to read for this
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movie.
He took it on the airplane with
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him and Aren T know being
Tarantino.
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This script was like 150 pages
instead of the standard like 105
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or whatever.
And so, Weinstein starts,
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reading the script and he calls
his producer in the middle of
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the movie or his lawyer, whoever
it is is Agent.
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And he goes, what is this movie?
You killed off the main
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character halfway through and
the guy just said, just keep
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reading.
And when Weinstein, finally got
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to the end of the movie, he
called from the airplane and
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said, we have to make this movie
get Tarantino on board now, but
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you're exactly right.
I mean, they kill the main
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character.
Halfway through the movie.
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So, the thing is, there's a lot
of different characters in the
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movie, but I would like, would
it be okay to say Samuel Jackson
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and John Travolta, are the main
character, probably call them,
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the leads of the movie for,
like, Bruce Willis is almost
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there because he's the main in
the Second Story, right?
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But when you look at the book
ends of the movie, I mean, it's,
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it's Samuel and John Travolta.
Yeah, I would say, John
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Travolta.
Probably is the main character.
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If y'all main, if you were gonna
like a well again, I mean, the
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Oscars, they put John Travolta
up as best actor, and they put
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Samuel.
Loud as best supporting actor,
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but you told me that that's
because they don't want them
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competing for the same thing,
but sometimes they do.
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I mean, so it's really depends
on what the studio thinks is the
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main character.
I would say the fact that the
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movie finishes with Samuel L
Jackson, I agree.
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I would say he's the main 100%
And I think he's the most
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important character for sure.
Okay, so but I do want to say
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this, like the Second Story, the
one with Bruce Willis.
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Yeah.
It's all about this gold watch
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that would result in what.
Yeah and that's the name of it.
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It's called the gold watch and
for Whole life.
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Bruce Willis has had this prized
possession of a gold watch that
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his dad war in Vietnam and we'll
get into Christopher Walken or
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yeah.
He wore in a certain place and
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it's been passed down for
generations and Bruce.
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Willis is this fighter who was
supposed to take a dive and
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doesn't, and before he can leave
town, he finds out that his
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girlfriend forgot to grab his
gold.
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Watch off the Batman Fabian.
Come on, Fabian.
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So he has to go back and get his
gold watch and shenanigans
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ensue.
Okay.
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Madison and against bad things
in Sioux really bad things, bad
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things they could just send the
top caganer bad things.
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Insist second, Quentin,
Tarantino directs a movie called
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battling bad things and 6.
So this second story is always
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kind of held up as the part
where the movie sags, and I
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think it's because it's
two-and-a-half-hour movie.
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This is the middle of the movie,
but watching it back this time,
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I have to say, I think the
second story is way better than
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people give it credit for.
When you said, the words sags I
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was Yeah, I think that it's
definitely the slowest moving.
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It's like a slow burn because
there's more action, people get
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shot and stuff in the other
ones.
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Samuel Jackson is quoting the
Bible.
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But when you really take a step
back and you realize, this is an
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anthology, I think each one of
these chapters, if you want to
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call them that work perfectly on
their own.
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What do I favorite camera shots
from the movie was in the second
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chapter when Bruce Willis gets
out of the car he's going back
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to his apartment to get.
Yeah the gold watch and the
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camera follows him through.
Ooh a set of apartment buildings
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through.
Yeah, you killed in he's kind of
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check it out his own apartment
buildings at first you think
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like man he just parked in front
his own part in building.
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He's an idiot, right?
But that single following camera
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shot as he goes through the
fence.
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It's beautiful, it's so good.
Great shot.
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Yeah, maybe this is a good time
to talk about this because I
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feel like our podcast today is
just all over the place but
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that's because this movie has
this weird sort of episodic feel
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to it.
So maybe we should just jump
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into talking about our favorite
scenes in the movie.
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Yeah.
And the funny thing is I wrote
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down like seven or eight Scenes
and they just basically span the
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whole movie because the whole
movie is just a great scene.
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Yeah, you got the prologue with
Jackson and Travolta where
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Samuel Jackson eats a
cheeseburger and shoots a guy
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and quotes the Bible.
You read the Bible.
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Well, there's this passage.
I got memorized Ezekiel 25:17.
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The path of the righteous man is
beset on all sides by the
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inequities of the selfish and
the tyranny of evil.
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Men blessed, is he who in the
name of Charity, and Good Will
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Shepherds the weak through the
valley of darkness for he is
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truly his brother's keeper and
the finder of lost children and
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I will strike down upon thee
with great Vengeance and Furious
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anger.
Are those who attempt to poison
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and destroy my brothers and you
will know my name is the Lord
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when I lay my vengeance upon
thee.
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It's fantastic.
That's probably the most
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well-known scene of the movie.
I would think so.
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Well that there might be one
that's more well-known than
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that.
And that would be the second one
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I wrote down, which is the dance
between John Travolta.
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And Uma Thurman has become an
iconic moment.
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Yeah, you're probably, you got
you basically got fat, John
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Travolta, you know, who was in a
total career slump at this
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point?
I mean they did not want to hire
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him and Tarantino was like this
movie doesn't get made of I
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can't hire John Travolta, really
this movie complete career
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turnaround, for John Travolta.
That's really it.
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You've got this iconic character
of the 70s from Saturday Night
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Fever and grease getting on the
screen and dancing again.
442
00:21:47,700 --> 00:21:49,200
Yeah, it doesn't get better than
that.
443
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,200
But one of the key scenes in
this movie, it's in the first
444
00:21:52,300 --> 00:21:55,900
story, where Mia Wallace played
by Uma Thurman has overdosed,
445
00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,000
and John Travolta has to plunge
a needle through her breastplate
446
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,500
and into her heart to restart
her heart.
447
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,100
Yeah, it was at the New York
Film Festival, and they started
448
00:22:05,100 --> 00:22:07,900
screaming this movie and it got
to the scene with the needle and
449
00:22:07,900 --> 00:22:11,100
someone fainted in the audience.
And they had to Down the aisles
450
00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:14,100
and find a doctor to revive this
person because the scene was so
451
00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:17,300
intense that someone passed out.
Hey, and Weinstein actually came
452
00:22:17,300 --> 00:22:19,700
out afterwards and said, I was
afraid people thought that that
453
00:22:19,700 --> 00:22:22,200
would have been one of my
publicity stunts but it really
454
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,800
happened because it was so
intense for.
455
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,100
So I'm not going to lie for me
that scene.
456
00:22:27,100 --> 00:22:30,500
Almost felt like it was a little
bit forced.
457
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,700
Interesting, how so like, for me
that seen the rest of the movie
458
00:22:34,700 --> 00:22:37,500
really felt smooth and it felt
like that scene.
459
00:22:37,500 --> 00:22:40,200
They were trying to force, not
not a laugh.
460
00:22:40,300 --> 00:22:41,800
Laughs.
That wasn't my favorite scene in
461
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,100
the movie.
One of the things I love about
462
00:22:43,100 --> 00:22:45,700
that scene is that they can find
ways to get humor into it.
463
00:22:45,700 --> 00:22:48,100
Even as you are on the edge of
your seat, John Travolta's,
464
00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:51,300
arguing with his drug dealer, he
takes Puma Thurman to the house
465
00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:53,500
of his drug dealer to try to
revive her because he knows, he
466
00:22:53,508 --> 00:22:55,900
can't take her to a hospital and
they're bickering back and
467
00:22:55,900 --> 00:22:57,400
forth.
While Uma Thurman is just like
468
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,200
laying there on her front lawn,
you know, I think it is.
469
00:23:00,300 --> 00:23:02,100
I didn't like the performance of
the drug dealer.
470
00:23:02,100 --> 00:23:04,300
Interesting.
He just kind of struck me as
471
00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:06,000
this.
Oh man.
472
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,400
I don't know.
There's something about the drug
473
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,000
dealers just kind of like fake
to me, huh?
474
00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:12,900
Does Feel sincere.
So that actor is Eric Stoltz, he
475
00:23:12,900 --> 00:23:15,700
was pretty famous actor in the
80s and Tarantino kind of gave
476
00:23:15,700 --> 00:23:18,000
him a couple parts that he could
pick from.
477
00:23:18,100 --> 00:23:21,500
In this movement he picked that
part was one of the other parts.
478
00:23:21,700 --> 00:23:24,300
The part Jimmy actually played
by Tarantino.
479
00:23:24,500 --> 00:23:25,800
Yes.
That was the other part that he
480
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,500
gave him an option to take.
I could see Eric Stoltz playing
481
00:23:29,500 --> 00:23:32,000
that role as well playing
Tarantino's part in the third
482
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:32,700
story.
Yes.
483
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,100
Interesting.
I'm glad you picked that up
484
00:23:34,108 --> 00:23:35,800
because that was the other
option that he gave him.
485
00:23:35,900 --> 00:23:38,900
Yeah, I could totally see him
doing that role as well, and I
486
00:23:38,900 --> 00:23:40,200
think he would have been better
in that.
487
00:23:40,300 --> 00:23:41,700
A troll.
Okay, I don't know.
488
00:23:41,700 --> 00:23:45,200
There's something about this
role that just felt fake and
489
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,700
forced to me and granted.
It's a minor role in the movie.
490
00:23:47,700 --> 00:23:49,500
That's all you ruined.
The movie, or anything.
491
00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:51,800
Yeah.
And he did fine in the role.
492
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,000
I just didn't care for it.
And so, maybe that's the reason
493
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,000
why I didn't care for that seem
quite as me.
494
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,600
Yeah.
One of the things that you don't
495
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,600
really notice as you watch this
movie is how big and expansive,
496
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,600
it really is.
And I realized it when I was
497
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,500
watching that scene, with Bruce
Willis, that you were referring
498
00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:08,500
to a minute ago, as he was
walking through rows of
499
00:24:08,508 --> 00:24:11,500
apartment buildings that You
watch each story.
500
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,300
It's so immersive that you kind
of forget about the other
501
00:24:14,300 --> 00:24:17,400
characters in The Other Stories,
which I love I love that too.
502
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,700
And you don't realize Tarantino
movie made this movie on.
503
00:24:19,700 --> 00:24:23,300
I think like an eight million
dollar budget, and it has so
504
00:24:23,300 --> 00:24:26,900
many characters, So many actors,
so many extras, it's essentially
505
00:24:26,900 --> 00:24:30,600
like an Epic film being told on
this really small independent
506
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:35,000
movie, budget and scale that you
don't quite realize how big it
507
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,100
is at times.
That's eight million dollars.
508
00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:40,100
Yeah.
Includes paying Samuel Jackson.
509
00:24:40,300 --> 00:24:41,800
Everyone took a pay cut for this
movie.
510
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,100
Yeah.
And some of the bigger actors
511
00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:46,000
took a percentage of the profits
but no one knew was going to be
512
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,000
as huge of a cultural phenomenon
as it was, they just wanted to
513
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,900
really work with this new
up-and-coming director.
514
00:24:50,900 --> 00:24:54,400
So was this a cult hit or did it
truly make millions of the box,
515
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,200
so it made a ton of money at the
box office.
516
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,900
So Tarantino made this movie,
Reservoir Dogs in 1992.
517
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,400
It went to the con film festival
and he was in demand from that
518
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,800
point on and he'd already been
developing Pulp Fiction.
519
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,800
So they gave him a way, bigger
budget for Pulp Fiction even
520
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,200
though it seems paltry, right,
right.
521
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,800
He went off and made Pulp
Fiction.
522
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,400
I don't know, man.
Eight million dollars does not
523
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,400
seem poultry to me.
Well, that's me.
524
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,200
I wish I didn't know.
Yeah, Zach now, he makes Pulp
525
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,100
Fiction.
They sell it on the power of
526
00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:22,200
people like, Bruce Willis, who
is one of the biggest movie
527
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,000
stars in the world.
At that point, it goes to the
528
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,900
con film festival and it wins
the big prize which is called
529
00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:28,900
the Palm D'Or.
The Golden Palm explain
530
00:25:28,900 --> 00:25:30,600
confident just in a few words.
Yeah.
531
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,100
So it's this Film Festival is
held held in France.
532
00:25:33,100 --> 00:25:35,200
It's considered like the most
prestigious Film Festival.
533
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,700
It's also the one where the most
critics go and in France like at
534
00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:41,800
the con Film Festival.
People will like, Boo your movie
535
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,600
during the movie if they don't
like it.
536
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,200
It's just this crazy atmosphere,
huh?
537
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,000
So this movie wins essentially
best picture the Golden Palm and
538
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,400
from there it takes off.
Weinstein, does his thing he
539
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,300
pressures Academy voters?
He does everything supposed to
540
00:25:56,300 --> 00:25:57,500
do.
This movie gets nominated for
541
00:25:57,500 --> 00:25:59,300
best picture.
So wine, seems good at
542
00:25:59,300 --> 00:26:00,500
pressuring people.
Yeah.
543
00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:01,700
Right.
Who would have thunk?
544
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,700
But it blows up at the box
office, I think it makes like,
545
00:26:04,700 --> 00:26:07,000
cumulatively like 200 something
million dollars.
546
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,900
Yeah, so like I said, Brad, this
movie is a cultural.
547
00:26:10,300 --> 00:26:13,400
None man.
I just looking at 90s culture
548
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,000
that's amazing to me that just
recognize culture hadn't fully
549
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,100
let go of its 50 like we want to
be like the 50's and wholesome.
550
00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:23,300
Well this movie shook that out
of the 90, that's what I'm
551
00:26:23,300 --> 00:26:24,400
saying.
That's the thing is we talk
552
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,000
about 90s culture and in a way
Pulp Fiction is 90s culture,
553
00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:31,100
like we're still in the earlier
part of the 90s, we're getting
554
00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:33,800
into the mid-90s now, but I feel
like the the decade hadn't,
555
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,400
really defined itself and then
Pulp Fiction comes out and from
556
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,300
this point on everything we look
back on culturally in in As
557
00:26:40,300 --> 00:26:43,700
media and TV in movies, it is
because of Pulp Fiction.
558
00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:46,700
And I don't necessarily want to
use the word raunchy.
559
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,900
Well, what you had was you came
out off of the 1980s and if you
560
00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:52,400
remember like action movies of
the 80s, they were like
561
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,700
larger-than-life.
It was Terminator it.
562
00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:55,100
Well.
Yeah.
563
00:26:55,100 --> 00:26:57,500
And and all the other ones that
Schwarzenegger made after that
564
00:26:57,500 --> 00:27:02,200
Commando and Predator you had
Sylvester Stallone, making tons
565
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,200
and tons of gratuitously violent
movies.
566
00:27:04,500 --> 00:27:07,900
And here you have this guy
Tarantino who he has a
567
00:27:07,908 --> 00:27:10,100
gratuitous violence but then he
also has two characters.
568
00:27:10,300 --> 00:27:13,100
In a car talking about what they
call a quarter pounder with
569
00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:16,400
cheese in Paris.
And he really shifts the
570
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,100
Paradigm of what it means to
make an R-rated movie and it's
571
00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:22,400
all about dialogue.
I never thought about that
572
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,200
before.
But when you compare it to the
573
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:29,600
gratuitous films of the 80s,
Tarantino is light years ahead
574
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,600
of what they were doing.
I mean, he takes film to a whole
575
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,200
new level of and that's, that's
the problem.
576
00:27:36,300 --> 00:27:41,300
And the genius of of Tarantino
is, is Is he just an idiot?
577
00:27:41,300 --> 00:27:43,700
That makes gratuitously gross
movies.
578
00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:45,400
Or is he a genius?
Yeah.
579
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,100
That understands the human
psyche and the human soul in
580
00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:51,200
ways that most people don't ya.
Here's the crazy thing about
581
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,800
this movie.
I've probably seen it.
582
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,400
I do 15 times.
I love this movie, Brad.
583
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,700
You really like this movie, too,
and we're like a half hour into
584
00:27:58,700 --> 00:28:01,000
this podcast now, and I feel
like we haven't even really
585
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,300
gotten our minds around how to
talk about it.
586
00:28:03,300 --> 00:28:05,400
How to start talking about?
We haven't talked about any of
587
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,300
the performances.
Yeah, we haven't talked to any
588
00:28:07,300 --> 00:28:09,500
analysis of this movie.
We're just getting our initial
589
00:28:09,500 --> 00:28:11,600
thoughts out there.
Are and we're already at the
590
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,900
time where we need to take a
break.
591
00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:14,500
It's time for us to try some
with.
592
00:28:14,500 --> 00:28:18,100
I need some whiskey right now.
So Brad.
593
00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:20,700
What do you say that?
We try Weller antique, let's do
594
00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:28,400
it, man.
Alright, so today we're talking
595
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,400
about Weller antique now, we
have tried Weller Special
596
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,200
Reserve, which was Weller's,
green label, a couple weeks ago
597
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,700
and we're continuing our summer
of bourbon.
598
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,800
We're in week summer of bourbon,
we're in week 5 of The Summer of
599
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,100
bourbon.
So there's one more to follow
600
00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:44,800
this.
Bob I'm sad.
601
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,100
I know right?
I love, but I promised when we
602
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:49,400
tried Weller Special Reserve
that I would bring well or
603
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,600
antique Weller.
Antique full disclosure.
604
00:28:52,900 --> 00:28:54,800
This might be my favorite
bourbon really?
605
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,000
It's a thirty dollar bourbon.
Well I think it smells like
606
00:28:57,100 --> 00:28:59,700
Crap.
Bob if you can find it at retail
607
00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:04,100
it is a steal, it's $30 in the
state of Ohio and I got it for
608
00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:06,800
$30, good job.
But this is one of the two
609
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,200
Weller's that you mix to make
what they call Poor Man's Pappy.
610
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,200
You know what?
Dude, the more we've done this
611
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,300
podcast and warm like, what's so
stinkin special about pain.
612
00:29:16,300 --> 00:29:19,700
That's the thing is that people
who have had Pappy and who know,
613
00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:25,400
Pappy, pre the bourbon boom say,
well, our antique might be
614
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,000
better than Pappy and If you can
get it for $30, please do.
615
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:31,200
But if you go, you know, in
other states people are marking
616
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,600
this up till like 2:00 bottle.
It's insane.
617
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,200
But this this what we're
drinking today 200 $200.
618
00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:41,100
So while our antique comes from
Buffalo Trace Distillery, it is
619
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,300
violet 107 proof so it's a
little bit higher proof.
620
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,100
That's one of the highest proofs
we've drank.
621
00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:49,100
Yeah, so there's no age
statement on it.
622
00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:51,300
We know that that means it has
to be at least 4 years old.
623
00:29:51,300 --> 00:29:53,300
The youngest in the blend has to
be for.
624
00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:54,800
Right.
Most people guess that this is
625
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,700
closer to, like, a six-year-old
blend.
626
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,000
Brad, what are you picking up on
the nose of this one?
627
00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:05,000
You know, this is given me very
fresh notes and I don't want to
628
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,600
say bright bright side,
different word.
629
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,200
It's it feels very refreshing to
me.
630
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,000
Yeah.
Like like a glass of cold water
631
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,400
on a hot day.
I don't know.
632
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,000
Yeah, it definitely is a little
bit brighter, a little bit more
633
00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:21,500
fruity smelling than the Special
Reserve that we had.
634
00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:23,800
And now we have been letting
this mellow in our glasses for a
635
00:30:23,808 --> 00:30:25,700
couple of minutes.
So we might, we may have missed
636
00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:28,100
some of those initial smells
That you get with the bourbon of
637
00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:32,400
a vanilla, you know, the oak,
the brown sugar, the maple Death
638
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,300
and All for sure.
But we go ahead and score this
639
00:30:35,300 --> 00:30:36,600
out though.
Before we give it a sip.
640
00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:37,900
What would you get on the nose?
Brad?
641
00:30:38,300 --> 00:30:41,600
This is one of the most Pleasant
Bourbons, I've smelled.
642
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,500
I'm gonna give it an eight, an
eight on the nose.
643
00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:45,000
Like that's pretty high, but I
like it.
644
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,000
Absolutely, I'm going to go
ahead and give it a seven on the
645
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,200
nose.
It's not unpleasant, as Brad
646
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,900
said, but it's also not doing a
ton for me.
647
00:30:50,900 --> 00:30:52,500
And I think part of that is
because we've been letting it
648
00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:55,500
sit for a couple minutes.
I'm super excited to taste it.
649
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:56,900
Why don't we give it a taste
Brad?
650
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:02,300
Yeah.
I think that there's certain
651
00:31:02,300 --> 00:31:07,700
notes of vanilla that that hit
through in ways that I haven't
652
00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:09,000
seen with other Bourbons.
Yeah.
653
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,900
What I love about this bourbon
is that it is a perfect
654
00:31:13,900 --> 00:31:17,100
encapsulation for me of
everything I want people to
655
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:19,200
understand about bourbon.
There's a little bit of smoke,
656
00:31:19,500 --> 00:31:22,700
but for me, I've said this
before, I love sweet bourbons.
657
00:31:22,700 --> 00:31:24,700
And this is a sweet, sweet
bourbon.
658
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:30,700
So Plato, the philosopher had
these ideas of the ideal, the
659
00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:36,600
ideal Yeah, which essentially an
ideal was the perfect version of
660
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,300
what you would find on Earth.
Yeah so this would be your
661
00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:43,300
platonic ideal look I'm not
saying this is a perfect
662
00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:44,900
bourbon.
What I'll say is this but is it
663
00:31:44,900 --> 00:31:46,800
close as it could come to on
Earth?
664
00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:51,200
No, no, no, here's what I'll say
about it, it just, it has
665
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,600
everything.
It checks all the boxes that you
666
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,400
want to introduce someone to
whiskey or to Bourbon with,
667
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,000
that's got a little bit of a
like, an interesting like Briny
668
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,400
flavor to me.
There's a little bit of that,
669
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,300
like, so, All teenis but
overwhelmingly sweet.
670
00:32:03,300 --> 00:32:05,800
It's 107 proof.
So you get an alcohol burn.
671
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,700
It's got some spice to it.
The Finish is Pleasant, it's not
672
00:32:08,700 --> 00:32:10,600
bitter.
It goes down, smooth.
673
00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:13,800
It gives you that Kentucky hug.
It literally, for me, it checks
674
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,300
every box.
If you were going to come to my
675
00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:17,800
house and say what Suburban, I
would say.
676
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,700
Here's some Weller antique, huh?
I would agree with you on
677
00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:22,800
everything.
You just said it has nice
678
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,600
qualities in all of it.
Yeah.
679
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,800
But in a sense and don't crucify
me for this is a jack of all
680
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,800
trades.
Master of none.
681
00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:33,500
Yeah, I get that.
There is a sense of this, as an
682
00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:34,900
every man's bourbon.
Yep.
683
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,800
And I guess, honestly, like you
said, it's a thirty dollar
684
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,300
bourbon, right?
So, it's not trying to be
685
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,900
over-the-top at anything, but
it's good at all of it.
686
00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:43,900
Yeah.
All right.
687
00:32:43,900 --> 00:32:47,300
So Brad, what would you score
this on the taste on The Taste?
688
00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:50,700
I'm gonna give it a seven.
It doesn't quite live up to the
689
00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:54,500
hype of the nose for me, okay?
But it's still, it's still in a
690
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:56,900
above.
Average isn't quite good enough
691
00:32:56,900 --> 00:33:00,300
of a statement.
Yeah, above above average.
692
00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:02,400
It's Good.
Kind of like it's good ancient
693
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,400
age.
I had another adjective.
694
00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:06,100
I'm chipping my hand here.
I'm giving this a nine and a
695
00:33:06,108 --> 00:33:09,100
half on taste.
Wow, I love this bourbon.
696
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,200
This is everything I want in a
bourbon that's really high.
697
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,000
Five told you man.
I love sweet.
698
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,600
Bourbons, this is a sweet High
proof bourbon.
699
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,400
That isn't aggressive?
Yes, not harsh.
700
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,000
Yeah.
It doesn't punch in the face.
701
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,200
Like a lot of the ride.
Yeah, I mean if I asked you to
702
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,400
guess if this was what the proof
was on this would you have
703
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,500
guessed this 107 roof above
night?
704
00:33:29,500 --> 00:33:30,700
Like a 94?
Yeah nine.
705
00:33:30,900 --> 00:33:32,100
Six.
Yeah, something like that.
706
00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:34,300
And it's rare to get something
that's over. 100 proof.
707
00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:37,500
That doesn't give you that sort
of like tongue punching
708
00:33:37,900 --> 00:33:40,300
aggressiveness.
All right.
709
00:33:40,300 --> 00:33:43,100
So, Brad gave it a 7.
I gave it a 9 and a half finish.
710
00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:47,400
What do you think?
The Finish is smooth that and I
711
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,200
say that in a good way and a bad
way.
712
00:33:49,300 --> 00:33:53,600
Like, there's not a, there's not
a ton going on on the Finish but
713
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,800
that's a good thing.
It moves from The Taste down the
714
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,800
palate.
Yeah, down the throat and it
715
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,400
doesn't punch you in any way.
Bueno.
716
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,100
Hit you hard.
Little bit of smoke.
717
00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:05,300
Yeah, I would probably give it a
seven and a half on the finish.
718
00:34:05,300 --> 00:34:09,500
I'm over here, like kissing the
bottle as Brad says, I love Bob
719
00:34:09,500 --> 00:34:11,199
attorney was real Italian.
I am.
720
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:14,300
I'm like blowing kisses and wow,
I'm gonna get an eight and a
721
00:34:14,300 --> 00:34:15,900
half, it doesn't have a perfect
finish.
722
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,699
But for what it is, I mean, it's
just great.
723
00:34:18,699 --> 00:34:20,000
Brad.
What would you score it at
724
00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:23,400
Finish wise, I would probably
say about an eight at eight.
725
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,199
It's a nice smooth finish.
You would expect from a bourbon.
726
00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:30,300
Yep.
Overall balance I'm gonna give
727
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:34,199
it an 8 as well and eight.
Yeah, it moves from nose to
728
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:36,800
taste to the Finish really
smoothly.
729
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:39,500
If I had to use one word to
describe this, it's smooth.
730
00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:41,800
Yeah, smooth.
The only thing that I'm going to
731
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,500
knock it for on the balance is
that I didn't find the nose to
732
00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:48,300
be really compelling and it may
have just been the glass.
733
00:34:48,300 --> 00:34:50,600
I was using and Brad and I are
actually using different glasses
734
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,000
for this tasting and we swapped
glasses halfway through.
735
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,699
It changes things Brad.
Your glass has a little bit more
736
00:34:55,699 --> 00:34:59,300
like a fluted thing going on and
and the nose was fantastic on
737
00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:01,000
yours.
But the place was completely
738
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:01,700
different.
Yeah.
739
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,300
So I'm going to go ahead and say
on overall balance, I'm going to
740
00:35:05,300 --> 00:35:08,300
give it an eight and a half,
it's still incredibly
741
00:35:08,300 --> 00:35:09,600
well-balanced.
I would have liked a little bit
742
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,500
more out of that nose.
And so that brings us to our
743
00:35:13,508 --> 00:35:16,900
final category which is value.
Now, we've already said it's a
744
00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:19,700
thirty dollar bourbon, you might
be paying 200 for it, if you're
745
00:35:19,700 --> 00:35:21,900
in a different state which is
insane absent.
746
00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:24,200
You shouldn't pay 200 for any
Bourbon ever.
747
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,600
I'm serious.
Like I would probably agree with
748
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,300
that statement and and five
years ago.
749
00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:29,900
Ten years ago, you wouldn't be
Right.
750
00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:32,500
But the way that this bubble has
been building, you're paying
751
00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:34,600
thousands of dollars for certain
Bourbons now and it's just
752
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,900
astronomically, it's ridiculous.
So if you can get it at Cost
753
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,700
even at $40 less, okay?
Let's say $40 in Ohio, its 2999
754
00:35:43,900 --> 00:35:46,600
right.
But let's just say at $40,
755
00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:51,600
what's your value score bread?
Add a 40 dollar price point.
756
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,300
I would probably give it a 7.
Yeah, at a thirty dollar this
757
00:35:55,300 --> 00:35:57,200
and that's what it is.
I paid twenty nine ninety nine
758
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,500
for this at.
Let's just go with what we paid.
759
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,500
Twenty nine, ninety, nine, eight
and a half.
760
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,500
All right, I'll give it a 10/10.
Not a 10 name, me a 30-dollar
761
00:36:06,500 --> 00:36:07,400
bourbon.
That's better than this.
762
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,000
I like that Jamesy.
Pepper 17-7.
763
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:11,500
Okay.
Lat.
764
00:36:11,500 --> 00:36:13,300
All right.
I would put that in a similar
765
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:15,500
category of this and that was
Thirty One dollars.
766
00:36:15,500 --> 00:36:17,400
But again I mean if those are
the only two.
767
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,300
Yeah I can't think of many then
that would be a 10 for me.
768
00:36:20,300 --> 00:36:23,800
I can't find a 30-dollar burden
better than this myself to a
769
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:24,500
nine.
Alright?
770
00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:27,300
Brad's give it a 9.
I'm giving it a 10 that puts
771
00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:33,100
Brad out to a 40 out of Of 50
and that puts your boy Bob up to
772
00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:38,500
a 43 and a half, which puts us
at an average of 40 1.75.
773
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,600
We did it.
This is our top and look, I knew
774
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,400
I was going to ask you the score
a little bit but I'm so happy to
775
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,500
see the Brad gave this a 40 out
of 50.
776
00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:51,900
Is a good / but this is just
darn good man.
777
00:36:51,900 --> 00:36:54,500
Yeah yeah.
I mean our last one that we had
778
00:36:54,500 --> 00:36:56,300
this high was a Glenmore Angeles
Santa.
779
00:36:56,300 --> 00:36:57,100
Yeah.
Right.
780
00:36:57,100 --> 00:36:58,900
Which is great.
I think we averaged out like a
781
00:36:58,908 --> 00:37:00,000
39.
Yeah.
782
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,900
Something close to it we may
have come to a 40.
783
00:37:01,900 --> 00:37:04,400
Yeah.
And and that's a scotch and it's
784
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,700
completely different whiskey and
you might as well have calmly
785
00:37:06,700 --> 00:37:09,500
different categories for them
but this is a really great
786
00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:11,700
bourbon.
Yeah, the I think your
787
00:37:11,700 --> 00:37:14,100
description is the best.
If you want somebody to
788
00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:18,000
understand the highs that
bourbon has to offer you toss
789
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,400
them.
Some of this water antique.
790
00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:22,300
If you had to pay $200 a bottle
of it don't actually I don't do
791
00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:23,900
that.
I haven't held green label
792
00:37:24,100 --> 00:37:25,800
right.
Show them that I will say this.
793
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,000
I think at the time I tried it,
the best whiskey I had ever had
794
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:32,800
was old Forrester prohibition.
Okay, the 1920 that's sixty
795
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,300
dollars a bottle.
I can buy two bottles of this
796
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,600
for the price of one old
Forester prohibition.
797
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,800
Now, that is like a completely
different Beast, its 119 proof
798
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,400
or something way thicker.
It's a completely different
799
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,100
bourbon.
Very good bourbon, it's very
800
00:37:46,100 --> 00:37:50,600
good for $30.
You cannot buy a better bourbon
801
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,400
than Weller antique go buy it
now right now.
802
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,300
So topless and Brad, would you
recommend?
803
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,500
It's a redundant question.
Oh great, terrible whiskey.
804
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,100
Key.
Yeah, this might be my favorite
805
00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:02,700
whiskey.
It's, yeah, goodbye.
806
00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:04,300
Just it's so good.
Go by it, go.
807
00:38:04,300 --> 00:38:05,400
Buy it.
Go buy it.
808
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,000
I'm so happy.
We're talking about it with Pulp
809
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,300
Fiction because it's something I
can recommend alongside a movie.
810
00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:11,100
I'd recommend.
Let's talk about it.
811
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,900
So that was well, they're
antique, what do you say?
812
00:38:18,900 --> 00:38:21,500
We get back into talking about
Pulp Fiction, Quentin
813
00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:25,600
Tarantino's 1994, Masterpiece
Brad, true master.
814
00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:28,600
I mean, seriously it is, it's
the work of a master and there
815
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,700
are so many directions that we
can go with this.
816
00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:33,500
Yeah, we haven't talked about
the acting at all the
817
00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:34,300
performance.
Yes.
818
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,200
So why don't we just run down
the list?
819
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,300
Here, we'll start with.
Do you want to start with the,
820
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,700
the Lesser actors?
How do you want to go?
821
00:38:40,900 --> 00:38:43,700
Let's, let's start with a lesser
actors and move towards the
822
00:38:43,900 --> 00:38:46,800
Samuel and John.
All right, well, why don't you
823
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,800
leave the Way here.
What lesser actor, do you want
824
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,100
to talk about here?
Thing reims.
825
00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:51,300
Ving.
Rhames is fantastic.
826
00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:53,600
Yeah, honestly, one of my
favorite scenes from the movie
827
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,500
and not because it's
technically, brilliant or
828
00:38:55,508 --> 00:38:56,600
anything.
And it's well done.
829
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,900
When Bruce Willis is driving,
and he's singing the song, The
830
00:38:59,900 --> 00:39:02,700
jamming he pulls up to the stop
light and the little lady's
831
00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:04,900
walking by may, I don't know
somebody walks by.
832
00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:09,200
But then Marsellus Wallace Ving
Rhames walks in front and he
833
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,700
kind of stops.
And literally, he like takes
834
00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:15,300
like half a step backwards and
looks at the car and he sees
835
00:39:15,300 --> 00:39:17,100
that it's Bruce Willis.
A season is real.
836
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,300
Yeah, I love it that so funny,
it's so funny.
837
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,000
Quentin Tarantino said that he
respected Ving Rhames so much
838
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,300
because the the, you know, the
key scene in the second story is
839
00:39:28,300 --> 00:39:31,500
that Bruce Willis sees Ving
Rhames who is the guy that's
840
00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:34,400
going to try to kill him when he
goes back to get his gold watch
841
00:39:34,500 --> 00:39:37,100
he steps on the gas.
He runs Ving Rhames over.
842
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,200
They end up chasing each other.
Through the streets.
843
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,400
They end up in this pawn shop
where they're knocked
844
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,600
unconscious by what can only be
described as a hillbilly and
845
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,500
they wake up in the basement of
this pawn shop.
846
00:39:46,700 --> 00:39:50,400
And they I doubt that they are
in the middle of some weird sex
847
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,000
kinky stuff and that these guys
are going to keep them and rape
848
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:58,000
them, and Tarantino said that he
respected Ving Rhames so much
849
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,500
because he was the only actor
that he tested, that did not
850
00:40:01,500 --> 00:40:04,800
mind the rape scene.
And he said, Ving Rhames was so
851
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,300
confident in his masculinity
that.
852
00:40:07,300 --> 00:40:09,300
He's the only one that didn't
ask Tarantino.
853
00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:12,000
What's this going to do for my
see, my screen image and my
854
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,300
Persona and he was completely
committed to doing the scene and
855
00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:17,100
since then he's just been Ving
Rhames.
856
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,700
In Mission Impossible.
Yeah, I mean I didn't hurt his
857
00:40:19,700 --> 00:40:22,200
career at all and I think I
think that kind of teaches us a
858
00:40:22,207 --> 00:40:25,600
little bit of a lesson in that
Ving Rhames didn't care what was
859
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,800
going on in that scene.
So, you know, why should we in
860
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,300
some way?
But this was something that was
861
00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:34,100
like we should care about it
because that was a, that's a
862
00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:36,100
hard thing to get through, for
sure, super difficult.
863
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:38,300
What I'm saying is all the
actors that auditioned for that
864
00:40:38,300 --> 00:40:39,900
scene that was there.
Hang up.
865
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,900
They were saying like you got to
cut away or I won't do it Ving.
866
00:40:43,900 --> 00:40:45,800
Rhames said, I understand the
weight that this has for the
867
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,100
story and I'm completely lately
all in committed to doing it.
868
00:40:49,100 --> 00:40:50,600
Yeah.
If we can just address for a
869
00:40:50,607 --> 00:40:53,900
second that scene because I
think that scene is the reason
870
00:40:53,900 --> 00:40:57,100
why Pulp Fiction is such a hard
movie to ever recommend.
871
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,600
Yeah, and I know we're getting
the very end of the sure, sure,
872
00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:01,800
the episode where we normally
would you recommend?
873
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,900
It's hard for me to recommend
any movie, that would include
874
00:41:05,900 --> 00:41:08,600
that type of material.
Yeah, I completely understand.
875
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,000
And and we talked about
Inglourious Basterds when we
876
00:41:11,008 --> 00:41:15,200
reviewed that one and that movie
has some over-the-top comically
877
00:41:15,300 --> 00:41:18,400
exaggerated violence, right?
I hated watching the guys get
878
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,800
scalped in that movie, right?
This is a different Beast.
879
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,800
I think that it's themes.
Go way deeper and way darker.
880
00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:25,600
Yes.
When we see John Travolta,
881
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,900
injecting heroin into his veins
in, what is only presented as
882
00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:29,800
what the way.
It's filmed.
883
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:34,000
It's glamorized almost right?
When you see the brutality of
884
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,900
Ving Rhames getting raped.
I mean, you can't recommend this
885
00:41:37,900 --> 00:41:41,000
movie because people's tolerance
to these things are going to be
886
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,400
all over the place, right?
It's not just that, it's the
887
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,900
violence of the movie.
It's the way that every action
888
00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:48,900
taken taken in the movie is
violent.
889
00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:52,500
Yes, there's something about
this movie.
890
00:41:52,700 --> 00:41:56,000
That is so otherworldly.
Yeah.
891
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,700
Almost like holy of like this
movie.
892
00:41:58,700 --> 00:42:03,000
Just evokes these sense of like
like Samuel Jackson especially
893
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,700
when he gives his Biblical quote
from Ezekiel.
894
00:42:05,700 --> 00:42:08,800
Yeah, you just get this sense of
other worldliness that this
895
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,400
movie isn't normal.
It's Way Beyond the plain of
896
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,800
normal movies and it makes me
go.
897
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,000
I don't know what to do with
this.
898
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,000
Movie and it's all encapsulated
in the second act, when Bruce
899
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,200
Willis and Ving Rhames are
dealing with Hillbillies who
900
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,700
want to sodomize them.
I don't know what to do with
901
00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:29,200
that.
I don't know if I could ever
902
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,300
recommend this movie, but I
don't know if I could ever not
903
00:42:31,300 --> 00:42:32,900
recommend it.
So, the first thing I would say
904
00:42:32,900 --> 00:42:37,100
to that Brad is, I think I used
a word earlier to describe a
905
00:42:37,107 --> 00:42:39,800
smoothie, and it was epic, and I
think, in some ways we have to
906
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,000
look at Tarantino the way we
look at like a Tolkien or a c.s.
907
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,000
Lewis are any of these people
who craft these worlds?
908
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,000
Because Tarantino does, Is an
amazing job of world-building.
909
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,600
Yeah.
In this movie, and part of the
910
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,800
reason this movie affects us,
the way it does, is that.
911
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,600
It's so immersive.
We get into the world of this
912
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,600
movie and it's so unique and
it's like nothing we've ever
913
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,900
seen.
And we buy what Tarantino is
914
00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:02,700
selling.
Yeah.
915
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,900
I mean, it comes across as
authentic and it comes across as
916
00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:07,700
unique because we don't see it
anywhere else.
917
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:11,400
But the reason this movie hits
us at the level that it does is
918
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,200
because Tarantino is so good at
world-building, right?
919
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,200
Yeah, let's delve back into Yeah
yeah so I want to get back into
920
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,000
talking about performances and
one of the ones you to lighten
921
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,800
the mood a little bit here that
I loved so much was Christopher
922
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,300
Walken because I think his seen
his 15-minute scene or whatever
923
00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:33,200
it is is fantastic.
And what I love about what
924
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,000
Tarantino does is he's
underrated as a director because
925
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,600
when you look at the list of
people in this movie, he has a
926
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,900
bunch of actors that are not
known for their subtlety and he
927
00:43:43,900 --> 00:43:47,000
makes them play really subtle
like Christopher Walken.
928
00:43:47,100 --> 00:43:50,300
Ian in this scene where he's
talking to this young boy Butch
929
00:43:50,700 --> 00:43:53,400
for most of the scene he's
talking in, like, a really quiet
930
00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:57,100
reverent tone and you don't see
Christopher Walken, do that very
931
00:43:57,100 --> 00:43:59,200
often.
I mean, you've got walk in,
932
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,200
you've got John Travolta, you've
got Harvey Keitel and Samuel L
933
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,600
Jackson, none of whom are known
for being like quiet
934
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,600
introspective people and he puts
him in these situations where
935
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,400
you absolutely by Samuel L
Jackson.
936
00:44:12,500 --> 00:44:15,700
You know in a face-to-face with
Tim Roth talking about the Bible
937
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,700
in a really hushed.
Way.
938
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:19,900
And he brings that out of his
actors.
939
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,000
I'm super impressed by what he
does as a director.
940
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,700
I would be really interested to
see like behind the scenes
941
00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:29,600
footage of Tarantino coaching
his actors over sure.
942
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:34,100
You know, me on how to evoke the
emotions that they show and to
943
00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:36,300
give them their motivation and
why they're doing the things
944
00:44:36,300 --> 00:44:37,000
they do.
Yep.
945
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,900
I just feel like Tarantino would
be fascinating to listen to
946
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,700
absolutely.
Any thoughts on Christopher
947
00:44:41,700 --> 00:44:45,000
Walken?
Christopher Walken is such an
948
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,000
interesting character because
cuz of the Cadence of his voice.
949
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,500
Yeah.
That like any role he does your
950
00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:53,000
kind of like oh that's
Christopher Walken.
951
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,400
Just mean Christopher Walken,
right?
952
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:59,300
This rule felt different it did
because he wasn't just relying
953
00:44:59,300 --> 00:45:02,200
on the Cadence of his voice to
kind of create Intrigue and
954
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,300
interest.
Yeah, his storytelling ability
955
00:45:05,300 --> 00:45:08,900
in this scene was one of the
things I notice in this movie
956
00:45:08,900 --> 00:45:11,500
and that you don't get in later
Tarantino is that he'll just
957
00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:15,100
kind of sit the camera like, in
the corner of a room and let
958
00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:17,700
characters go in and out of
frame and that Shot will last
959
00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:19,800
for like a minute and a half.
And what they do with
960
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,400
Christopher Walken is they just
put the camera on his face and
961
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,800
it's like an extreme close up.
It's from eyebrows to chin and
962
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,400
that's it.
And walking holds the camera
963
00:45:28,500 --> 00:45:31,300
for, I don't know, probably a
minute at a time and it's really
964
00:45:31,300 --> 00:45:36,700
compelling to watch.
Let's watch Sonia, Daddy's,
965
00:45:36,700 --> 00:45:39,500
rest.
When I was shot down over, Hanoi
966
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,600
has captured putting a
Vietnamese prison camp.
967
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:50,500
He knew that if I was on the
watch be confiscated taken away.
968
00:45:51,700 --> 00:45:55,000
Well, your dad looked at it,
this watch was your Birthright.
969
00:45:55,300 --> 00:45:58,000
He'd be damned if any it's going
to put the grease Ela hands on
970
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,800
his boys birth.
Right, so he hid it in one
971
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,200
place.
He knew he could hide something
972
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:07,300
his ass five, long years, he
wore this watch up his ass, then
973
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,800
he died of dysentery, give me
the watch, I hit this
974
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,600
uncomfortable.
Hunk of metal at my ass two
975
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:18,700
years then That's seven years,
almost son.
976
00:46:18,700 --> 00:46:25,400
Hold my family.
Now Oh man, I give the watch
977
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:34,000
teal and then when he finally
gets to the point of his story
978
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,800
where he says, I put this watch
in my but like, yeah, yeah,
979
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,200
yeah.
It becomes so funny because it's
980
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,200
so unexpected.
And again, we talked about
981
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,800
Tarantino kind of subverting
expectations but you're with
982
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,500
Christopher Walken because he's
crafting, this really serious
983
00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:51,800
drama about this walked that's
been passed down for
984
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,700
generations.
And then all of a sudden He
985
00:46:53,700 --> 00:46:56,100
introduces?
Yeah, I wore this inside my butt
986
00:46:56,100 --> 00:46:59,000
for five years and here you go.
Now, it's yeah.
987
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,800
All right, so let's let's Zoom
back a little bit from that and
988
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,300
I want to talk about the leads
but very briefly.
989
00:47:04,300 --> 00:47:06,600
I mean what are we going to say
that hasn't been said before
990
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,100
like Samuel L Jackson is good.
Like we all know this we know
991
00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:13,900
Travolta was not wanted by the
studio and Tarantino dug his
992
00:47:13,900 --> 00:47:15,800
heels and then he got Travolta I
think Travolta's.
993
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,700
Fantastic.
I think more about that story at
994
00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:19,600
all.
Yeah so throughout the 1980s
995
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,000
Travolta had become basically
bike box office poison you know
996
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,200
he made It a sequel to Saturday
Night Fever that was a bomb.
997
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,500
He was in a few bombs in the
80s.
998
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,000
And by the time you get to the
early 90s, he's making these
999
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,400
movies called Look Who's
Talking, which about talking
1000
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,100
babies and he's like the
voiceover of the talking baby,
1001
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,200
really?
Yeah.
1002
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,100
Did he was here.
He had kind of Hit the skids a
1003
00:47:39,107 --> 00:47:42,700
little bit and so Tarantino
really, really wanted him and
1004
00:47:42,700 --> 00:47:44,800
Harvey.
Weinstein had said listen, I can
1005
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,800
get you Daniel Day-Lewis right
now for this role, Daniel
1006
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,700
Day-Lewis wants to play.
Vincent Vega, really Tarantino
1007
00:47:50,700 --> 00:47:53,700
said no and part of me really
wants to see what Daniel
1008
00:47:53,700 --> 00:47:56,300
Day-Lewis Vincent Vega looks
like, but we didn't get Daniel
1009
00:47:56,300 --> 00:47:58,200
Day-Lewis.
We got John Travolta and I think
1010
00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:59,500
they made the right call.
Yeah.
1011
00:48:00,300 --> 00:48:01,800
What did you think of Bruce
Willis in this movie?
1012
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,800
I would say one of his best
performances because he Bruce
1013
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:10,800
Willis shines, when he moves
from one extreme to the other.
1014
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,900
Mmm, you know what I mean?
Like, when I think about him in
1015
00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:16,400
the Sixth Sense, Hailey Joe
Osmond is the star of that
1016
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,200
movie, right?
The like honestly bruseles kind
1017
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,200
of / turns in a blase
performance in that.
1018
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,000
Movie where he just kind of
mopes through the movie.
1019
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,400
Yeah, which works for his role.
But like in this movie, you get
1020
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:35,200
Bruce Willis at his best, where
he plays that cool calm boxer,
1021
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,600
who's fully in control of
everything up to the
1022
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,300
psychotically angry.
That his girlfriend.
1023
00:48:42,300 --> 00:48:44,800
Forgot the most important thing
to him in the world.
1024
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,900
Yeah, there's something about
him that Bruce Willis makes that
1025
00:48:48,900 --> 00:48:52,800
transition from calm to
psychotic so well, that you get
1026
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,700
the best of And this movie.
Absolutely.
1027
00:48:55,300 --> 00:48:57,800
And I don't know that I would
call his performance like in the
1028
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,600
sixth sense for instance blase
but I think it gets that what
1029
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,500
you're saying?
I think Bruce Willis does the
1030
00:49:02,500 --> 00:49:05,500
best when he's given material
where he's allowed to have Quiet
1031
00:49:05,500 --> 00:49:07,300
Moments.
Yes, because so many of his
1032
00:49:07,300 --> 00:49:09,800
movies, especially now that he's
getting into, you know, older
1033
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,600
adulthood where he's, he's just
making these direct-to-dvd
1034
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,200
action.
Movies are all about covering up
1035
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,600
those moments where he's not
vulnerable, where he is just
1036
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,200
blowing stuff up all the time.
But the reason we loved him in
1037
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,200
the sixth sense and the reason
we love him in this movie is
1038
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,100
because there's so many
stretches where he has to carry
1039
00:49:26,100 --> 00:49:29,300
the scene as an actor, in a
quiet moment and I think he
1040
00:49:29,300 --> 00:49:32,800
Nails it here.
Yeah, his scenes with Fabian and
1041
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,800
the hotel room he does.
He hits every note that you need
1042
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,300
him to hit right?
Whether it's the low notes of
1043
00:49:39,300 --> 00:49:45,100
the chill notes, the quiet notes
or the angry, the Furious, he he
1044
00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:49,600
moves between those two extremes
so well yeah, it's funny.
1045
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,300
As I'm saying this I'm realizing
one of the other actors in the
1046
00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:56,000
The entire Pantheon of actors
that does it so well.
1047
00:49:56,300 --> 00:49:57,600
Samuel Jackson.
Yeah.
1048
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,500
And I think it's time we talk
about Samuel Jackson.
1049
00:49:59,500 --> 00:50:02,900
Because, in my opinion, not only
does he steal the movie, but
1050
00:50:02,900 --> 00:50:07,300
he's the key to the whole movie.
He, it's interesting because if
1051
00:50:07,300 --> 00:50:10,800
you just watch the YouTube clips
of this movie and you only see
1052
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:15,200
him quoting Ezekiel and you
know, gunning down a guy, you
1053
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,800
don't get the full breadth of
what Samuel L Jackson does in
1054
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,600
this movie.
And it makes me kind of sad for
1055
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,600
we're not not for where his
career went because obviously
1056
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,800
he's had a great career for
sure, but it's very rare that we
1057
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,800
see him operate on this level of
subtlety that final scene in the
1058
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,100
diner where he's talking in a
very quiet tone to the guy that
1059
00:50:36,100 --> 00:50:38,700
he has at gunpoint.
And he said, telling him all
1060
00:50:38,700 --> 00:50:41,200
about that Bible verse and what
it means to him.
1061
00:50:42,500 --> 00:50:46,000
And you will know, I am the Lord
when I lay my vengeance.
1062
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,900
Upon you.
I've been saying it for years,
1063
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:56,500
and if you heard it, that meant
your ass, I never gave much
1064
00:50:56,500 --> 00:50:58,400
thought to what it meant.
I just thought it was some
1065
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,800
cold-blooded you to say to him
before I popped a cap in his ass
1066
00:51:02,700 --> 00:51:05,000
and something this morning made
me think twice.
1067
00:51:06,300 --> 00:51:12,000
See now I'm thinking maybe it
means you're the evil man and
1068
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,100
I'm the righteous man and mr. 9
millimeter here, he's the
1069
00:51:16,100 --> 00:51:17,900
shepherd.
Protecting my righteous ass in
1070
00:51:17,908 --> 00:51:22,600
the valley of darkness.
Or it could mean you're the
1071
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,400
righteous man and I'm the
shepherd and it's the world
1072
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,400
that's evil and selfish.
Now I'd like that.
1073
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,700
But that ain't the truth.
The truth is.
1074
00:51:37,700 --> 00:51:42,600
You're the weak.
And I am the tyranny of evil
1075
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,400
men.
But I'm trying Ringo.
1076
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,200
I'm trying real hard to be the
shepherd.
1077
00:51:55,700 --> 00:51:59,200
You see something in Samuel
Jackson's eyes in his tone of
1078
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,900
voice that he covers up so often
by yelling things and I just
1079
00:52:02,900 --> 00:52:06,000
feel like maybe he's worked with
lesser directors or something.
1080
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,200
But I want that Samuel L Jackson
all the time because he knocks
1081
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,300
it out of the freaking Park.
I was going to say I feel like
1082
00:52:12,500 --> 00:52:15,800
Tarantino, lets him go there.
Yeah.
1083
00:52:15,900 --> 00:52:18,900
You know, to me he gives him the
freedom to do with that part
1084
00:52:18,900 --> 00:52:22,200
what he will.
And he Nails it, he why?
1085
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:23,400
You said he knocks it out of the
park.
1086
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,600
Absolutely.
And I want to focus Sit on that
1087
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,300
last scene because I think it's
time we get into our analysis
1088
00:52:28,300 --> 00:52:29,700
and our final scores, a little
bit.
1089
00:52:30,300 --> 00:52:33,800
The whole key to this movie is
Samuel Jackson's character of
1090
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,000
Jules Winnfield and it's really
a story about Jules is
1091
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,900
redemption, right?
It really is.
1092
00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:41,000
And I think, like I said
earlier, it's a on a smaller
1093
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,200
scale as a story about a lot of
these characters, kind of
1094
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,100
finding their Saving Grace.
You know, at the end of Bruce
1095
00:52:46,100 --> 00:52:49,800
Willis is story, he rides out on
a motorcycle and the name of the
1096
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,400
motorcycle is Grace, right?
You know what I mean?
1097
00:52:52,500 --> 00:52:55,000
For sure, but in Samuel Jackson
story, you see it.
1098
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,600
Happen in the most explicit way.
And he starts talking about how
1099
00:52:58,900 --> 00:53:03,700
God intervened in his life and
that he doesn't understand why
1100
00:53:03,700 --> 00:53:06,900
he doesn't understand what it
is, but he understands that he
1101
00:53:06,900 --> 00:53:09,500
felt he says I felt the touch of
God.
1102
00:53:09,700 --> 00:53:13,300
And John Travolta says why he
says, I don't know why but he
1103
00:53:13,300 --> 00:53:15,800
knows that he says I can't go
back to sleep.
1104
00:53:16,100 --> 00:53:19,300
And what this movie is really
about is these two paths that
1105
00:53:19,300 --> 00:53:23,000
these two characters take
because Jules Samuel Jackson
1106
00:53:23,100 --> 00:53:26,400
leaves the life of crime.
We Him in the third area in the
1107
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,800
in the story, with Bruce Willis
and we know that John Travolta
1108
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,000
does.
I think that this is a miracle
1109
00:53:33,300 --> 00:53:36,700
decides to continue on in this
life of crime and he dies
1110
00:53:36,700 --> 00:53:39,200
because of it, right?
And so it really is a story
1111
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,400
about Redemption and Samuel.
L Jackson even said the people
1112
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,700
in this movie in Pulp Fiction.
The people who are worth saving
1113
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,400
get saved the two robbers
pumpkin and honey.
1114
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,700
Bunny get saved, they get each
shut they get another chance.
1115
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,000
That's their Redemption, Uma
Thurman's.
1116
00:53:55,100 --> 00:53:56,600
Sir.
He said has the chance to die
1117
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,400
but she didn't die.
Butch Bruce Willis's character
1118
00:53:59,500 --> 00:54:02,100
gets another chance.
Marcellus Wallace even gets
1119
00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:05,500
another chance and I think he's
getting at something here and
1120
00:54:05,500 --> 00:54:07,700
Brad, I want to know what your
take is on.
1121
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,500
What you think, kind of the
moral of the story is here and
1122
00:54:11,500 --> 00:54:15,100
whether Tarantino kind of nails
it with the way the he wrote it.
1123
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,200
That's so hard.
Is there a moral to this story?
1124
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,800
Yeah, because I look at this
movie and I just think to myself
1125
00:54:20,900 --> 00:54:26,000
man, when you see all the horror
that that In this movie.
1126
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:30,000
I yeah, the crazy thing that go
on like, can there be something
1127
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,600
redeeming to it?
And I think that there is
1128
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,400
there's something about this
movie that Taps into the depth
1129
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,000
of Humanity's depravity.
Yep.
1130
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:39,600
And Brokenness.
Yep.
1131
00:54:39,700 --> 00:54:43,500
That when you, you look at the
end and you look at where Jules
1132
00:54:43,500 --> 00:54:47,100
comes to, you see that there's a
point where he has a certain
1133
00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:51,400
faith in a better world or a
better place or a better plan
1134
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,300
that God has for him.
Yeah, that Vincent never comes
1135
00:54:54,300 --> 00:54:57,200
to, right?
The Vincent has this doubt about
1136
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,100
and you see how it turns out.
And I think that's one of the
1137
00:54:59,100 --> 00:55:01,900
most beautiful things about the
third scene of the movie is that
1138
00:55:01,900 --> 00:55:04,800
you know that Vincent Vega is
dead.
1139
00:55:04,900 --> 00:55:07,400
Yeah, I don't know why, but as
we've been talking about this
1140
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:12,500
movie, that fact has grown on me
to consume to be the whole point
1141
00:55:12,500 --> 00:55:18,000
of this movie, is the third, the
third act, knowing what happens.
1142
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,400
Yeah.
In the second half, which is
1143
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,900
chronologically the final part
of the movie, but the fact that
1144
00:55:21,900 --> 00:55:24,200
they have that conversation in
the diner, at the end of the
1145
00:55:24,207 --> 00:55:30,400
movie, Even they John and Samuel
they you know Samuel Jackson and
1146
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,000
the robber have this
conversation about Grace and
1147
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,800
Redemption.
Yeah and he realizes that these
1148
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,800
people are the sheep that need
to be protected.
1149
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,900
Yeah.
And that God has called him
1150
00:55:39,900 --> 00:55:43,000
protect these people.
And then you realize the fact
1151
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,700
that Vincent doesn't understand
that lesson and he's actually
1152
00:55:45,700 --> 00:55:48,100
dead.
Yeah, there's so many things
1153
00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:49,100
going on.
Oh yeah.
1154
00:55:49,300 --> 00:55:52,100
That I go Tarantino's Beyond any
of us.
1155
00:55:52,100 --> 00:55:54,900
What I love about and I said
this in our Inglourious
1156
00:55:54,900 --> 00:55:56,900
Basterds, Bastards episode.
And I'm glad that I can say it
1157
00:55:56,900 --> 00:55:59,700
again.
Now, I feel like Tarantino makes
1158
00:55:59,700 --> 00:56:03,800
a movie that super nihilistic
and dark and has no point and
1159
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,000
then he makes a movie about
Redemption, and it seems like he
1160
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,400
goes in this cycle.
So, like, Reservoir Dogs.
1161
00:56:08,500 --> 00:56:10,300
I know you haven't seen it.
I'd love to watch it with you
1162
00:56:10,300 --> 00:56:12,900
soon.
It has this very nihilistic tone
1163
00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:14,600
to it.
Pulp Fiction has a Redemptive
1164
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:15,900
tone.
You know, we talked about
1165
00:56:15,900 --> 00:56:18,600
Inglourious Basterds.
It seems like it's super
1166
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:19,700
nihilistic.
Yes.
1167
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,300
And and cynical Django.
Unchained is hopefully it's
1168
00:56:23,300 --> 00:56:25,000
Redemptive and I think
territory.
1169
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,600
Was at his best when he's
writing towards Redemption, for
1170
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,900
sure.
So Brad, if you had to give this
1171
00:56:30,900 --> 00:56:35,200
movie A score out of 10 with the
challenges that it presents but
1172
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,800
also knowing what a landmark of
cinema this is and still 25
1173
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,900
years later, what a unique
Vision.
1174
00:56:40,900 --> 00:56:43,600
This is.
What would you give it 9.5?
1175
00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:45,100
I think I'm right there with
you.
1176
00:56:45,500 --> 00:56:48,500
I want to give it a 10.
See that I wanted to give it a
1177
00:56:48,500 --> 00:56:50,600
9?
Yeah, but I think we have to
1178
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:51,800
meet in the middle here, a
little bit there.
1179
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,500
A couple things in this movie
that I don't think of edge super
1180
00:56:54,500 --> 00:56:56,100
well.
I think there's a couple little
1181
00:56:56,100 --> 00:56:59,100
pacing issues but overall, you
know, I forget.
1182
00:56:59,100 --> 00:57:01,500
Now I'm giving it a 10.
I have to give it a 10, it's
1183
00:57:01,500 --> 00:57:05,200
just I started it and about 15
minutes and I was like, oh maybe
1184
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,000
I won't like this as much
because I'm watching what the
1185
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,800
more critical eye and by the end
of it, I was like nope it still
1186
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,500
takes me there every single
time, it takes you on a journey
1187
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,300
that no other movie can I'm
giving it a 10 out of 10, I'm
1188
00:57:16,300 --> 00:57:17,900
sticking at a nine and a half
out of ten.
1189
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,900
All right?
For me, the true struggle that I
1190
00:57:21,900 --> 00:57:25,000
have.
Do you need to delve?
1191
00:57:25,100 --> 00:57:27,500
To the true depravity of
humanity.
1192
00:57:27,500 --> 00:57:29,300
Yeah.
To get to the lessons that he
1193
00:57:29,300 --> 00:57:30,900
does.
Yeah, I don't know if you do
1194
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,200
well and I think that that just
comes with the territory with
1195
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,600
Tarantino it does.
You never not going to take us
1196
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,400
there 100%?
Yeah Tarantino.
1197
00:57:39,100 --> 00:57:41,400
I don't know how to describe it.
He's ridiculous.
1198
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,800
Oh yeah, the way that he takes
you to places is observed and
1199
00:57:46,500 --> 00:57:50,100
over-the-topness even begin to
describe what he's doing.
1200
00:57:50,100 --> 00:57:52,100
Yeah.
And that's why I can't give it a
1201
00:57:52,107 --> 00:57:56,000
10 out of 10 because I just I
don't know if we have to go as
1202
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,600
deep as he takes.
Yes, I get that.
1203
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,800
This is not a movie that's going
to be for everybody.
1204
00:58:00,900 --> 00:58:02,000
Yeah.
And I don't know that I would
1205
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,400
tell like my mom to watch this
movie.
1206
00:58:05,700 --> 00:58:07,500
I hope you know that you
wouldn't tell.
1207
00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:11,200
Yeah, absolutely.
That doesn't mean that it's not
1208
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,300
a singularly Unique Piece of
movie making, right?
1209
00:58:14,300 --> 00:58:17,200
And that's what this is.
So Brad gave it a 9.5.
1210
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,600
I gave it a 10 but we want to
know what you think.
1211
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,400
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1212
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,600
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1213
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,300
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1214
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:34,300
Next week, we will be back
talking about the 2009, hit 500
1215
00:58:34,300 --> 00:58:37,000
Days of Summer.
I feel like we've gone from Lion
1216
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,400
King.
We're all over the map and in to
1217
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,700
500 AC.
Reduce a little bit of levity
1218
00:58:42,700 --> 00:58:44,300
next week.
We'll talk about 500 Days of
1219
00:58:44,300 --> 00:58:46,200
Summer for the film and whiskey
podcast.
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00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,400
I'm Bob book on Brad.
She will see you next time.