My Favorite Movie with Steven Grasse, Tamworth Distilling

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Hey everybody, Welcome to the
podcast.

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We are back with another special
bonus episode bonus episode.

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Today, I'm going to be flying
solo.

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I know you here.
Brad here right now, but I am

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kicking him out here in just a
few seconds because K by,

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because I'm going to be sitting
down with Steve grass from

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Tamworth distilling.
This guy, Brad has a really,

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really extensive background in
the world of spirits.

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He basically founded Hendrick's
Gin, He founded Sailor Jerry

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rum, he works with a ton of
whiskey Brands as a consultant

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really cool guy to talk to but
we're talking with him about

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Tamworth which is a super
experimental Distillery that you

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may remember.
We just had on the show a couple

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months ago.
Yeah.

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We drank a whiskey that has the
most unique backstory of any

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whiskey we've ever drank.
I don't know if I want to spoil

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that here.
I think people need to go listen

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to the episode Bob you but It
was a Turkey whiskey, a turkey

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flavored who whiskey?
Now, I think it was a turkey.

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He'd last.
Yes, it's like a Sherry like a

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share.
Heed whiskey.

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This is a Turkey whiskey.
And you need to go listen to our

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review because it was
spectacular, but Bob, I am super

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pumped to hear your interview
with him, man.

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All right, let's get to it, man.
If you recall a couple months

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back we tried a very unique
Whiskey on this podcast right

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around.
Thanksgiving time, we got sent a

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bottle of Tamworth distilling,
's bird of Courage, which I came

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to find out was essentially an
entire Thanksgiving dinner.

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That had somehow been you know,
fermented and distilled into

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whiskey and I still don't quite
understand the Alchemy and the

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chemistry behind that.
But I say Alchemy because Brad

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and I both came out to a place
where we said.

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Wow this is significantly.
We better than I was

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anticipating it based on reading
the description of it.

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And so we got the mad scientist.
The Evil Genius himself to come

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on the show today.
Steve grass from Tamworth

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distilling.
He's bringing another new spirit

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to this podcast, from a category
that we've never tried before.

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We'll get into that in a little
bit, but for now, we've got

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Steve sitting right here.
Steve, how are you today?

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Hey, good.
Good to be here.

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Thank you for having me if I
cough a few times, it's because

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I'm just getting over.
My only crime.

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Oh gosh.
You got it, huh?

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Got it.
No family.

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Got it, Christmas present for my
daughter.

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I'll tell you what, man, we had
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We had it back in.
November is right, right after

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Thanksgiving.
So it was like, you know, we got

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bird of courage and then we got
called me crying.

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I covid.
Yeah, yeah well I'm glad you're

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on the mend, I appreciate you
joining us.

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I know that it can really just
kind of sappy with all your

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energy so it means a lot that
you're here today.

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Yeah.
Alright now I've been I've been

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joking with Brad that my first
question with you was just going

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to be Y and and I was just going
to let it hang in the air until

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you understood what I was
referring to.

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But but seriously like you guys
are the only ones doing the kind

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of stuff you're doing.
I mean, you've got this

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castoreum whiskey.
You've got the Turkey whiskey.

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Now, I just I have to ask, man,
like, what, what is it that is,

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is pushing you guys to do these.
Just Kind of crazy experiments

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with whiskey and and feel good
about what you're releasing and

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put your name on it.
Like, I feel like a lot of

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companies would not have the
balls to do this, to be quite

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honest with you.
Well, I it's good question.

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Why?
I mean, if you know anything

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about our company, so Tamworth
is one part of what we do.

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The other part of what we do is
called Quaker City Mercantile

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and we are, you know, Spirits
consultancy.

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So I work with, you know, I
created Hendrick's Gin, I

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created Sailor, Jerry rum.
Fist full of bourbon is a brand

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that we have out.
So we work with like Wayne

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grandsons on all their brands,
we just did it, amazing content

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series of Questlove on the Bell
veiny.

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I do all the marketing for
Guinness in the US, for Diageo

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owner, brand with Gallo called
Lo-Fi aperitif.

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So, we create and manage and
conceptualize Spirits brands for

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these, you know, global
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And then we also own our own
Distillery.

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And so, the Distillery was
started for really to be a test

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kitchen for what's possible?
Because I use the put, I push

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the limits in this place and
then apply the knowledge to my

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larger clients, but it's also
just for the pure thrill of

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doing it, okay.
So, but it's interesting

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because, you know, so I'm a
lifetime, so Quaker City.

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He's been in business for 31
years and we are, you know, very

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successful in the Consulting
business and The Distillery has

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been around for seven years and
in the time that we created The

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Distillery, I think there's
something like 2,000 craft

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distilleries in America now, and
I feel like, you know, the

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answer the question of why, well
one because we can or were

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interested in what's possible.
But to how the hell else you

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gotta break out and get some
sort of my dogs barking, and get

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some and get noticed with 2,000
craft distilleries in America.

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So, I mean, but the, the Curious
thing that happened along the

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way, when we started creating
these very curious Spirits, like

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the beaver, In the venison one,
the deer Slayer.

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And now the bird of Courage is
they're actually really good.

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So I feel like we, you know, you
could create stuff, that's kind

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of like a one-off joke.
But I mean, our Beaver wisdoms,

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really quite quite amazing.
And then Berta courage got

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really positive reviews
everywhere that, that it was

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tasted.
So, I mean, it's really

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interesting, the reason why is
because we can absolutely And

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that's the thing too is like,
you know, when you see a press

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release come out around
Thanksgiving that's like hey

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it's a turkey flavored whiskey.
Like the first, the first

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reaction is okay.
This is a gimmick and then we

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get in the mail and we try and
we're like, this is absolutely

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not a gimmick.
This, this is like the

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definition of craft whiskey.
They have put a lot of effort

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into this and again, so I'm the,
I'm the PT Barnum of the company

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and, but Jamie are distiller and
that are Biochemist resident

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biochemist is I mean they they
approach these requests, these

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crazy request I have in a
profound way.

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So I think the way he may burn
of Courage was basically made it

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the way he made a whiskey, the
way you make a jit, right?

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So he created all these
confusions with the rotary

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evaporators that we have and
Infuse them into the whiskey and

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to a startling effect.
You know, it's interesting I

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think the other thing Is
interesting about Tamworth is we

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make a very big range of
products because again, our

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mission is to boldly.
Go, where no one has gone

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before.
And I think because of that we

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have a much more extensive
laboratory and laboratory

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equipment than most distillers
are size do so we have like all

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sorts of very experimental stuff
that most people don't have even

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the, even the larger Spirits
companies that are work with,

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don't have Stuff that we have.
Well, let's let's talk a little

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bit about that.
Then like I want to learn more

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about Tamworth as a Distillery
and like, I feel like in a lot

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of ways you guys are putting New
Hampshire on the map because to

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my knowledge, New Hampshire is
not the biggest whiskey

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producing state.
And so you guys are kind of

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just, like, up there in the
mountains tinkering away.

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And and developing these really,
really creative spirits.

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That no one else is really
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So when you talk about the, the
equipment that you're working

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with the experimentation that
you're leaning into it, I mean,

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it kind of feels like the New
Hampshire of it all actually

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makes a lot of sense in terms of
you know this is a state that's

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not known for doing this.
So let's do something that's

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different from everybody else.
Well, you know it's interesting

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is that that's true and I think
we purposely chose New

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Hampshire.
We wanted to be in a controlled

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State on purpose because control
States tend to have state

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mandates where they have to buy
your product.

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And and it seems, it's one of
the things about being in this,

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It's industry for.
As long as I have been, is I

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actually find, you know, most
people think control states are

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bad.
Think now they're really great

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for for small business but being
in like we are in a very rural

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part of New Hampshire.
I think Carroll County where

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where our Distillery is, the
poorest county in New Hampshire

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and it's very rural.
And what I like about that is

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and Matt and Jamie are our
naturalist who are You know,

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they're out there forging and
doing all this stuff all the

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time.
And I think they're very much

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inspired by their environment
and then I'm a historian deeply

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into historical stories.
And I've written several books

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on the subject.
And so it's taking the

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storytelling of historical
things that I'm interested in

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and then marrying it with the
science and and naturalist

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instincts that Matt have, and I
think it really creates a very

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profound and unique product.
And, and the other thing, too

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is, what's amazing about our
company is that, you know, we

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have a really great team of
designers and, and artists.

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So, you know, everything you see
on Hendrix and all these Brands.

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We do all that work here in
Philadelphia.

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And and so we then apply.
So we have resources that a lot

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of craft distillers don't have,
which is quite exciting.

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Yeah.
Yeah, and you keep talking about

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your team, which I think is
amazing because it's sometimes

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we talk with, you know, CEOs or
owners that it'd take a lot of

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credit, honestly.
And it seems like when you were

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putting the team together, like
there was this kind of very

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intentional this, this Outpost
this craft Distillery is going

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to Lean Into The Cutting Edge.
Like I mean, is that right?

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Or did it arise more?
Just kind of or gone.

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Oh say was Phyllis our
experimental Test Kitchen.

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Yeah, to As far as possible but
then also with storytelling and

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history to so it's really
interesting.

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So it's very Cutting Edge but in
a very historical sense.

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Mmm.
And then the whole distilleries

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based on the transcendentalist
of, you know, throw and Tamworth

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is where thorough spend time
when he was wandering, the White

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Mountains and wrote about it in
his journalism and one of our

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buildings is actually where he
actually spent time.

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So it's kind of cool.
So we kind of Of built the

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Distillery on transcendentalist
principles which is not the

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first time we've done this.
We also have a store in

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Philadelphia called are the age
of mechanical reproduction,

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which is based on me, the famous
essay, that was great 1936.

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So we kind of build Our Brands
off these weird Arcane stories

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and his historical figures and
things like that.

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Well and I think that commitment
to history extends to the

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offerings that are coming out as
well.

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And if I can kind of like, you
know, awkwardly segue us into

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this new That you've brought
onto our show, it's not really a

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new spirit.
It's, I mean, it's an incredibly

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historical Spirit, we're talking
about aquavit, and yeah, it's

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not an American Spirit.
I mean, this is traditionally

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Scandinavian Northern Germany.
I know that Norway and Sweden

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kind of fight over like, who
does it better as they do with

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most things?
I mean, what led you guys to

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start making aquavit?
Well, you know, it's interesting

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when you first open The
Distillery not a lot of aged

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product, you start playing with
stuff that you can make, that

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doesn't require like a You know,
a fine-tuned 6 year old whisky

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or things, right?
So the spin on our aquavit is

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that it is a whisky based on
equity, which I think we're the

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only ones who do that, but it
gives it a certain complexity

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and I think that again, using
the Natural Things That kind of

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grow around us.
And and I was intrigued by the

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historical like the way
mountains, being a place where

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the Norwegians came to they
built.

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Ski jump in America, nansen, Ski
Club, I think in 1872 or

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something like that, and we only
launched the brand.

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with them.
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what I've understood, it's
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reviews, particularly, from
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really great Aqua V.
And Bloomberg, just declared it

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one of the 16 best spirits of
2021, which is quite, you know,

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it's a nice honored.
Have so and it's called speak

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Lubin and I love the artwork on
the brand and feels very sort of

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mid-century waiting out here is
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Yeah, which is really cool.
So it's one of my favorites, and

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it's a perennial hit for us.
That just keeps growing year

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after year, so it's quite
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Well, let's go in a little bit
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for our listeners.
Because most of our listenership

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are people who are looking to go
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and find a reliable bottle of
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Like this is not typically the
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are looking for each and every
release of abhi Tak are coming

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and so aquavit is going to be
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most of our listenership is
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Now, I understand that it is
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a potato, vodka or some sort of
neutral grain Spirit as the

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base, you're talking about, how
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I mean, just from that starting
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What do you feel like using
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Does to add like a Layer of
complexity here.

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You'd have to ask Matt Jamie on
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me it just adds a certain way to
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of smoothness to it they'd I
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other alkyl beats.
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I've been with Scandinavian to
when they first see the like why

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is it not clear.
Hmm and I'm like oh it's whiskey

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base and I like that's that's
not that's what's it, what's the

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word?
Um, Blasphemous and then they

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try it and they liked it.
So it's it's again, it's it's

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our it's our spin on it or take
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I don't think we would dare to
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Scandinavian aquavit because I
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So why would I write?
So that's what we've done with

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everything we've done.
So if you know with Hendrick's

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Gin when we first came out with
it, a lot of it was trying to

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appeal to people that didn't
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Didn't have that.
It wasn't allowed to drive

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something other.
So everything we always do, it's

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other and and the only reason we
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pulls us to not.
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I always feel like if there's a
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in the marketplace.
Why would I try to replicate it?

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And that's my criticism of a lot
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is, you know, it's not
Christmas.

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And it's more, like, dare to be
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Try to try, try some new stuff.
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Like, why are you all making the
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No, I think if you did if you
made some different stuff, you'd

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have a chance of breaking out
and not being just a mirror

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Regional Regional provider.
You know, that's how that's how

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hits are made.
And in this business in the end

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of the day it is it is like the
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business.
You're trying to make hits,

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right?
Well I got to say I've got the

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ski club and poured out here.
I'm just sipping it neat.

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If I had to describe it to the
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So there is a very sort of gin
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There's, I mean, it's like, it's
got that kind of juniper and

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yeah, like are your face.
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like a winter region because it
has its kind of cardamom.

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Here's a lot of licorice on it.
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you took a really good really
citrusy gin and mingled it with

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a really bold spicy Rye because
I also see that you guys use

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dill as some of the spices in
here and you know, deals of

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note, we pick up on rye all the
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So it's like this really
Interesting, you know like a

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dirty martini at a later time in
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That's a great explanation of
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I end the way I drink it.
I think you know it's

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interesting before I owned a
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after I own a Distillery.
I only drink this stuff neat and

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it's because I just want to get
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drinking.
Sure.

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And so for me I drink aquavit
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But It's, it's funny happen.
The Distillery this weekend, I

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think they're having a sold-out
tiki aquavit class because

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they've discovered that aquavit
is really great in a lot of

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classic Tiki drinks, huh?
So go figure that one out.

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It's also really good apparently
in it, an espresso Martini.

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Yeah, I imagine that this would
be like really, really good.

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As a substitute for in like, gin
cocktails.

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Just add a layer of something.
That's not There.

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Yes, that interesting.
So, I mean, it's a very

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versatile Spirit surprisingly.
But again, like, I like to drink

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all this stuff that we make just
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All right.
Steve you have come onto the

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film and whiskey podcast.
We've spent some time talking

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about the spirits world.
Let's move into the world of

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movies.
Okay, and we talked right before

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he pressed record about what
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because we always discuss the,
you know, the guests favorite

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film.
But you have two movies that are

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just absolute bangers.
And I don't I don't want to

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narrow it down any further.
So you go ahead and you pick the

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first one that you want to talk
about and we'll say, we'll say

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the second one for a few minutes
from now.

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But why don't you introduce them
to us?

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First one is the man who would
be king with Sean Connery and

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Michael Caine.
Yep.

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Drafted by Houston, John Huston
and and I don't know when I

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first saw it captured a sense of
adventure for me.

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And and Inez I've probably seen
the movie Two times, and I just

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love the story.
I love how it's based on

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Alexander the Great and the
Freemasons, and all that stuff

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is just a fascinating, great
story.

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Well, told I feel like that
movie Ki think that movie was 75

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when it came.
Yes, I probably saw when it

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first came out as a kid.
I'm 27 years old and so I was 11

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years old.
When that came out, I feel like

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it hit at the perfect time to
where you were able to bring in

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a little more of the violence of
1970s film.

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But even when it came out, I
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like a throwback to Classic
Hollywood, like of course, you

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got John Huston directing it,
but now I just has this, like,

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swashbuckling, you know, Errol
Flynn and Cary Grant in gunga

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din?
Kind of feel to it, right?

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So we write, hey, and I don't
know this, I should know this as

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Sean Connery and I and Michael
came to.

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They were they in any other
films together?

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Oh, that's a good question.
I don't know off the top of my

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head, but if not, then they
should have been, because this

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pairing is They had a great
chemistry and I love, you know,

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I don't mean to spoil the movie
for anybody.

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I love the balls Enos of the
ending of the film to like, I

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don't know that I need to get
into it but like, you know, this

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movie is it doesn't end on the
happiest of notes and it still

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does kind of carry, you out
feeling like, you know what,

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though they did, what they had
to do.

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Like they they live the life
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really, really appreciated that
about this movie.

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I agree.
Absolutely.

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So in my second film, we doing
that.

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Are we ready in this for the
second film?

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Yeah, let's roll into it, man.
All right.

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My second favorite film of all
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Is Repo, Man with is it Charlie
Sheen?

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Or is it the other Emilio
Estevez?

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You know, that's, that's right.
I think it's an Emilio who

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directed it was?
The who was it?

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I don't know.
The details is, so C.

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Is it thing?
I keep I keep confusing it.

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In my mind with RoboCop 2.
I'll keep moving to say that.

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Rubbers.
All right here there have been

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movies but I also think was was
a Repo Man directed by

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what's-his-name Cox.
Who directed that Cox.

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Yep.
It sucks cocks, right?

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And and I think it was produced
by Michael Nesmith, right?

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I think somebody's.
Yes interesting and Iggy Pop did

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the soundtrack and what is truly
an oddity of the crew dick root

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is in it.
He was a famous Punk rock, I

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guess he was in a band before
this but I just love the, I just

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loved.
And now, what's his name?

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He was in Paris Texas, which is
every Dean Stanton.

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Is there you like dark hip cool
comic Edge.

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That's just like you hadn't seen
it before and it was like kind

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of cheap and In a great way.
Yeah, I feel like it's one of

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those movies from the 80s that
as a guy who's born in the 90s,

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my introduction to 80s, movies
were all of the like the really

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safe, you know, zemeckis and
Spielberg's 80s period and and

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then you get a little bit older
and you find out like there's

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some really crazy subversive
stuff coming out in the 80s.

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It's a, it's a, it's a punk-rock
movie.

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And and I think it's like and
then obviously, what's the other

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Alex Cox movie?
He did, that was straight to

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hell, right.
Right?

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Where it's a terrible Western
with Joe Strummer and Grace

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Jones, and Courtney Love.
And they're all high on coffee.

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All the time, all they do is
drink coffee in there

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over-caffeinated, shame of gal,
in it, from The Pogues, it's

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been great and terrible that he,
I think, saying that that's,

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that's actually how we create a
lot of Our Brands.

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Still high on coffee.
Yes, but it's also like like Let

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It Rip.
Any terrible there.

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Be great there to be whatever
like put some stuff like I feel

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like the Whiskey Business is so
up its own ass.

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Sometimes I feel like like come
on, guys, have fun.

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Make a wild turkey with wild
turkey.

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Make make a put some Beaver
balls in there.

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Like to see what happens, right.
I love it.

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I mean I do feel like we should
just start calling you the Repo

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Man of whiskey at this point you
go.

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That's sticks.
I like the tagline for sure.

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Steve, thank you so much for
coming on the show today.

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I'm just really excited about
what's coming out of Tamworth.

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I hope that we continue to get
some product from you guys, you

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know, maybe, maybe not the
beaver balls, but we'll see that

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it's great.
I really enjoy this but my wife

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made it expensive Sushi meal
thing that I'm gonna run out

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too.
So hey, get to it, man.

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Enjoyed it.
Thank you so much.

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I appreciate it.
Yeah, let's do it again.

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Steve grass from Tamworth
distilling.

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Thank you so much, again.