May 20, 2025
John Wick (2014) / Heaven's Door Revival Tennessee Bourbon
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In this high-octane season finale, Bob and Brad return to 2014’s John Wick , a film that redefined modern action movies and catapulted Keanu Reeves back into superstardom. They break down Chad Stahelski's slick, violent, and surprisingly economical revenge thriller and ask the question: does John Wick deserve to be considered a modern classic, or is it all style and no substance?
Alongside the mayhem, Bob and Brad sip on Heaven's Door Revival Tennessee bourbon , an expression from Bob Dylan's award-winning whiskey label. With its smooth Tennessee profile and appropriately themed name, does this bourbon live up to the hype—or does it get lost in the shuffle like one of Wick’s countless on-screen foes?
(0:00) Intro
(07:41) Brad Explains
(11:05) Performances, Themes
(31:41) Heaven's Door Revival Tennessee bourbon review
(40:30) Two Facts and a Falsehood
(45:39) Final Analysis
(55:38) Let's Make it a Double and Final Scores
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Transcript
Brad
In 2014, director Chad Stahelski and star Keanu Reeves gave the world a dynamic action thriller that shot straight into the hearts of the American public.
Bob
In 2025, we try a whiskey that ushers the hundreds of people killed in this movie to the pearly gates.
The film is John Wick.
The whiskey is Heaven's Door Revival Tennessee Bourbon.
We'll review them both.
This is the Film and Whiskey Podcast.
Welcome to the Film and Whiskey Podcast, where each week we review a classic movie and a glass of whiskey.
I'm Bob Book.
I'm Brad G.
And this is the final episode of season number nine, Brad.
Or we should say the final movie review of season nine.
Season number nine.
Oh my gosh, man.
Brad
Nine full seasons with you.
Bob
Who the fuck- It's incredible.
Brad
Yeah, we are six, a little over six years into the podcast.
Bob, how does that feel?
I feel old and I feel tired.
Bob
That's all I gotta say, man.
Brad
My hair is so gray compared to when we started this podcast.
Bob
I just keep thinking back to week number two or three of this season.
We reviewed the movie The Help and that line where at the end when she just looks at Bryce Dallas Howard and she's like, ain't you tired, Miss Hilly?
Ain't you tired?
Yes, I am tired.
I'm very tired.
But hey, man, we're ending on a high note.
We kind of hung on to this one for a while and I figured why not throw it in at the end?
I always like to end the season on a fun movie.
With a bang, if you will.
Yeah, dude.
A rat-a-tat-tat.
And John Wick is definitely that.
There are many headshots in this movie and it's a movie that kind of sparked a mini revolution in action cinema.
It's hard to believe that this movie is a decade old, a decade plus, but it's also kind of hard to believe that it's only been a decade since this movie came out.
There are now four John Wick movies and a spinoff movie coming this year.
And I think they did a TV show last year called The Continental.
So the John Wick IP has infiltrated pretty much every media at this point.
It's weird to think about a world without John Wick, Brad.
Brad
Yeah.
For me, I feel like I was kind of on the outside looking in.
The first time I saw John Wick was probably like 2021, 2022.
So I never really understood it, but all of my friends talked about it a lot.
They really liked it.
And I will say, I think the main thing that makes this stand out as an action movie is that they do just enough world building.
They create this mythos around Hitman that I think that's why this struck a note is that it's not quite an alternate reality.
But there's just enough going on that you're like, oh, this is a cool vision of the underworld that the average Chad out there, Chad Stahelski included, I'm sure, would just be down with.
It'd be like, oh, man, I kind of wish this world existed.
Bob
Yeah, it's really, really good economical use of both the screenplay and the budget.
They couldn't really expand on the world that they hint at in this movie, given the budget constraints.
But it also does a really brilliant thing for the first chapter in what would go on to become many installments in that it hints at a bigger world.
And it's just enough to whet your appetite.
But this movie stays laser focused on being kind of a boots on the ground movie.
There are things around John Wick and above his pay grade happening that we kind of get glimpses into, but we're going to save that for sequels if sequels happen.
And I guess I'll set the stage today, Brad, by saying I never watched any of the John Wick movies until I believe last year or maybe 23, whenever the fourth movie came out.
I was like, dude, it's time for me to watch these movies.
I keep hearing great things about them.
And I kind of marathon to the first three and then went to see the fourth one in theaters.
And I'm very impressed, like revisiting this movie.
Right before we recorded or I guess right before I rewatched this movie last night, I texted you and said, hey, man, it's only been like a year since I've seen this.
You know, I'm going to rewatch it again tonight, but I'm pretty sure I know where I'm going to land score wise.
And I got to tell you, man, I'm going to come out to a higher score than I initially told you I would.
I think this is a really good economical, basically 90 minute movie that doesn't try to be more than it is.
It's just trashy enough to be fun and it's just serious enough to have that sheen of professionalism about it that I was I was pretty impressed with this all the way around, man.
Brad
I like your use of the basically a 40 minute or a 90 minute movie, which essentially means it's in the hour 40 range.
Bob
Yeah, I mean, I think the credits are like 135 and there's like six minutes of credits.
So, you know, you're in and you're out in 95 minutes, basically.
Brad
Yeah, absolutely.
And that's what a action movie like this should be like.
It's when an action movie hits that like 215 that unless you're Mad Max Fury Road, which I don't even think that's that long, unless you're able to hold on to that tension, give good moments of breathing throughout like it's very rare to have an action movie that's worth spending more than two, two and a half hours on.
So, yeah, this is, I would say, in some ways, like a very good probably, I don't know, like a teaching point if you were in film school, like on how to make an economical action film.
Bob
Well, and I think that given how big John Wick the franchise has become, it's always hard to revisit the first installment where they didn't know if there were going to be sequels.
They set things up, you know, as cliffhangers, I guess, or as ways we could go.
But it's such a small movie in that, like, it doesn't span multiple continents.
It didn't cost hundreds of millions of dollars to make.
It kind of reminds me of like when you go back and watch the first Fast and the Furious movie, which is just a fun little crappy B movie about like Vin Diesel wants to steal DVD players and we're going to soup up some cars to do it.
It's like, oh, man, remember what this used to be before they went to space in a car?
Like it's John Wick has kind of become that for me.
Not that it ever got bad, but it was really refreshing to go back and see like, no, we just made a really good movie and it spread because word of mouth was really good on it.
And then we expanded the universe in the sequel.
So what you know about it now, I think people sometimes read that back on the first movie and that's not really what the first movie is.
It's its own thing.
And I'm excited to talk about it, kind of divorced from what it's become.
Brad
And I will be the perfect person to do that with Bob, because guess what?
What's that?
I've never seen any of the other movies.
Bob
Hey, there you go.
Well, I think that might be a perfect segue, Brad, into our first segment of the day, which we call Brad Explains.
Brad Explains
Brad's going to give us the movie plot with only 60 seconds ticking on the clock.
So let's go ahead and hear you take with this little segment that we call Brad Explains.
Bob
Brad Explains is the part of the show where Brad breaks down the plot of the film he has just seen, often for the first time.
So if I'm understanding this correctly, this is at least watch number two for you of John Wick, but we are on zero watches for the rest of the franchise.
Brad
That is absolutely correct.
This was my second time viewing it.
And I have never watched two, three, four, or the show.
And honestly, I probably won't.
You know, it's not really on my to-do list.
But yeah, I was glad to come back to it again for the podcast.
Bob
All right, man.
Well, you have one minute to spoil this movie.
Now, folks, I haven't really given my welcome into the podcast spiel, so I'll do that here.
Welcome into film and whiskey.
If this is your first time joining us, you may have figured out by now we review movies and we review whiskey.
This season, what we've been doing is we've been going through a list of 32 movies that met specific criteria for us.
And the question we're asking about those movies is, does this film deserve to be considered a modern masterpiece?
Now, those criteria were how much money it made at the U.S. box office, at least 100 mil.
Was it nominated for Best Picture?
Is it in the IMDb Top 250?
Is it in the Letterboxd Top 250?
John Wick is a movie that I believe only checks one of those boxes.
This is only a box office movie.
But like I said, its influence has stretched far beyond what I think anyone would have anticipated back in 2014.
So it's absolutely worth talking about here.
Just because they didn't, you know, give the Baba Yaga a Best Picture nomination doesn't mean it's not an influential movie.
Brad
And I think it's fair.
Like, I don't think this is a Best Picture worthy movie.
I do think it is worthy for consideration for the like you said, Bob, the effect that it had on action films going forward.
Bob
100% man.
Now, your task, Brad, is to explain what the hell happens in this movie.
You have one minute to do so and you're going to do it with full spoilers.
So folks, if you have not seen John Wick, like Brad and I until recently, hit pause here, go back and watch the movie and then rejoin us.
Brad, one minute and go.
Brad
John Wick is a film that follows its titular character as he is mourning the death of his wife and he is introduced to a small, adorable, maybe perhaps the cutest dog ever to be in a film, Bob.
Bob
Pretty cute.
Brad
Like an eight week old beagle puppy, as in the research I found, who gets murdered by an evil young Russian oligarch's son.
Not even oligarch.
He's just a crime boss.
And so John Wick goes on a murder spree and kills the entire organization that he apparently set up because he was trying to get out of the murder business and this mob boss made him kill everybody else and now he's like the only guy in town.
So he kills them all.
He kills them dead, Bob.
He just murders and shoots and cracks spines and there's death and death and cars and boom and John Wick.
Bob
There's a lot of death, man.
He goes on a real revenge spree here and I think that might be a good place for us to kind of start, Brad, with the revenge elements of this movie.
As I started watching the film, I think it became really obvious really quick what some of the influences on this movie were, like both in the way that it looks and just like what it's about.
And it really harkens back to some of those like revenge thrillers of the 70s and 80s.
We've talked before about there's a series with Charles Bronson called Death Wish where he just becomes a vigilante.
There's a lot of that going on here and I think that the early going of this movie was I think for me the hardest part to get through the most kind of amateurishly put together all the flashbacks to his dead wife like that stuff just didn't work for me and the slow reveal that like my wife's not dead.
Brad
I don't have any empathy for this man.
Bob
Boo this man.
Boo him and his dead wife.
No, but like the slow reveal that, oh, he speaks Russian.
Oh, he's like racing this Mustang around.
Oh, what's that sledgehammer that he's like revealing a gigantic stash of coins and a shotgun with.
Like there's you start to learn things about him, but it's really not until they get to, hey, let's understand the world that he came from that this movie starts to click for me.
And I say all that to say the first note I took on this movie was like, I think it's kind of trying to be unforgiven.
The Clint Eastwood movie, but with like without any of the like mournfulness, like there's definitely a sense of I'm getting pulled back into a world.
Violence is inevitable.
This is my fate.
But it's much more celebratory of like, hell yeah, John Wick, go, go embrace your fate then unforgiven, which is like this is a tragedy, you know?
Brad
Yeah, he definitely doesn't have the reticence.
It's like, no, everything got torn from me.
So I'm going to jump.
I'm going to dive back into this pool of blood head first, right into the deep end, ready to roll.
I guess I wanted to say it didn't take much, you know, just the death of his wife and the dog that his dying wife sent him.
You know, so maybe that is a lot to get him back in.
But the point at which we are with him, he seems very ready to roll.
Bob
There are a few things and I'm going to praise this movie for most of the runtime of this episode, but there are a couple of things that are just like we need this scene right here to make the script work.
And I don't want you to ask any questions about how this is possible.
But the my dying wife, who apparently died very suddenly, like she collapses and then she's dead.
She somehow had enough very slowly.
Yeah, well, she had enough time to wake up and like the presence of mind to like go on like order a puppy dot com and have it shipped to my guy.
And the delivery happens at like 9 p.m. Like what is going on with this dog service that they're just like, here's here's your living animal that you didn't know about.
See you later, man.
Is this a thing people can do?
Brad
Uh, to me, it seemed like the collapsing was like a sign of something going on, you know, because later at some point I think he's watching a video of her or I don't know.
There's a point where she talks about how hard this has been on the two of them.
And so it seems to me like it was a somewhat sudden, but, you know, they had a few weeks or a month or two together before she died.
And at that point, yes, she went on.
I'm dying and I want my spouse to have a puppy dot com.
Yeah, I think I think her and Gerard Butler's wife or Gerard Butler from P.S. I love you went to the same website.
Bob
I bet.
I mean, it's a very niche website, but when you need a puppy and you are dying, there's really nowhere else to go.
They should be.
They should be paying us money for.
I know, man.
We need we need to have them sponsor us next season.
Yeah, just a couple other small notes about like, why are you why is this happening in the movie when after they've raided his house and spoiler alert, killed his puppy and he they've driven like a baseball bat through the windshield of his other vehicle.
He rides the bus into town, but does not bother to change his shirt like he just gets off the bus covered in blood.
And then like the bus driver is just kind of like, it's a gray out.
Brad
No one cares.
Bob
Yeah.
Yeah.
I also love the cop that shows up while he's disposing of all the guys that the Russians send after him.
Hey, Jimmy.
And it's like, honestly, I want more about that because it's like, how does this guy know about what John Wick does for a living?
Because he says, like, are you working again?
John Wick's like, no, I'm just just having some friends over.
He just kind of like walk slowly away.
There's just so many weird random things needed to get the plot in motion in this movie.
Now, I will say once the plot's in motion, like from the 30 minute mark to the end of the movie, fantastic.
It's a little clunky getting there.
Brad
The part at the end where he breaks into apparently a veterinarian like pound shelter, maybe who knows what it is.
Bob
And he just takes one of those just snatches a dog.
Also, yeah, that was a note I took, too.
Did you know that if you get a deep stab wound, all you have to do is staple the exterior skin and you're pretty much good to go?
Brad
Yeah, you're set.
I mean, that'll at least get him back to the continental where the doctor who's always in.
And that's the beautiful thing about this movie, man, that it leaves you with so many questions about the world.
Some of them are a little ridiculous and detract from the movie.
But like 80 percent of the questions you're left with are like, oh, I want to see more of this.
Bob
So as the films go on, they build the mythos of the continental out.
There's like a whole secret society and, you know, the codes of honor and everything.
But even inside the building of the continental, there's like weird, wacky rules going on.
And John Wick gets more tech in the second movie.
They develop a like a suit coat, like a blazer for him to wear, and it moves like a suit coat, but it's made out of Kevlar.
So like as the movies go on, these guys are like shooting at each other and then they're just like hiding behind their like suit coat.
Like they'll put their suit coat next to their face and it just deflects bullets.
They get so ridiculous.
And I think that's what I really appreciated about this one, because I couldn't remember if that was this one or the second one where they start introducing that stuff.
But this one really does stay grounded.
Like for all the stuff about here's a hotel just for assassins.
We have a code.
They only tell you what you need to know about the code that's pertinent to this movie and this plot.
And they're not trying to like create a whole world.
You know, it's not like they're building the Silmarillion of John Wick mythos here.
Yeah.
Brad
And you know, there's just so many little tiny things that are hints of other mythology like Lance Reddick's character, the concierge who knows everything.
His name's Charon, and you give him gold coins to ensure safe passage through the Continental.
It's like, yeah, there's just good little small pieces that make you just that draw you in.
I think the fascinating thing that they do with the character of John Wick is they make him kind of a good guy, which feels really strange.
You know, and it starts with the cop that you mentioned earlier that, you know, Jimmy the cop who's like, hey, man, are you back in the business of murdering people?
And it's like, no, no, no, just to dip my toes in the water a little bit.
And the cop's like, all right, all right.
And you're like, hold up a second.
This is the most famous hitman in the world who set up the current Russian black market kingpin with his murder spree.
I don't think I'm on John Wick's side.
The people who say that his wife's death is karma, I'm like, yeah, are they wrong?
Bob
No, I actually really love the Russian oligarch or the Russian mobster in that scene where they've captured him.
I think honestly, let's talk about that scene for a minute, because I think that might be the best scene in the whole movie.
So for most of the film, John Wick is presented as kind of the strong, silent type.
He's very stoic.
And I think on paper, you understand that he is grieving, but you don't really see like there's a scene where he cries when his wife dies.
Let's be frank here.
It's Keanu Reeves.
Brad
I don't know.
Bob
Boring for Bob, who has a live wife.
Yeah, again, I couldn't care less about this guy's dead wife.
So the scene where they actually capture him after he's annihilated the entire Russian mafia army, and he just says like, you and me are cursed.
Like, this is a thing that will haunt us for the rest of our lives.
I'm giving you my son.
Your wife was taken from you.
Everything is karma.
I was like, actually, yeah, I totally agree with you, man.
This is the best thing that anyone in this movie has said.
And I think part of the reason that that scene works so well is Keanu hasn't really given you anything all movie.
And to see the rage boil up in John Wick, the first time he's really lost his cool.
And he's like, everybody keeps telling me I'm back.
And then you get the great line of like, and now, yeah, I'm thinking I'm back.
I'm like, oh, this is awesome.
I felt like it took the movie to a whole other level for me.
Oh, Bob, that line is so bad.
Brad
Oh, dude, just but it's Keanu Reeves at his absolute worst.
Bob
Oh, see, that was like literally the moment I said, I think Reeves is actually quite good in this movie.
I think that he captures exactly what he needs to hit, like the notes he needs to hit in that scene of like, he's never going to be a guy that talks much.
But for just that second, like you get the spilling over of emotion from this character who never has any emotion.
I thought he was really good in that scene, man.
Brad
And it's not necessarily him.
Like, I think he does a good job of expressing emotion.
For me, it's the script.
Like, that's a terrible line.
And Keanu Reeves is not the actor who can take a terrible line and make it like dark and menacing and a great line.
And, you know, there's just a lot of actors out there that can take a terrible line and make it good.
And only when you go back a few times, you're like, you know, that's actually not a good line.
But, you know, Tom Hanks delivers because he's Tom Hanks or Denzel or De Niro.
Keanu's not that guy, man.
Like, he is not able to take a terrible line and give it the depth and meaning it needs.
For me, that was the part where I just kind of was like, ah, it's Keanu being Keanu.
Why don't you go back and act in the lake house, Keanu?
Bob
So I think this is our third Keanu Reeves movie.
Like, we did The Matrix.
We've done this.
And we did Point Break, where we get the amazing line, I am an FBI agent, which is 10 times worse than any line in this film.
So what a great movie.
I mean, there are other Keanu's we could watch.
Like, we could we could go back and watch Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure someday.
And I quite frankly hope we do.
But I think we know enough of Keanu and his range as an actor that we can comfortably talk about, like whether or not he's good in something and then also like whether he's giving a good Keanu performance.
You got a great Keanu on a curve.
And this this movie really opened up a lot of goodwill towards Keanu.
He had a moment again after this where everybody I remember for like years and years, there was this thing on the Internet that like Keanu doesn't age.
And I remember thinking, like, what are you talking about?
Like, he clearly looks like a man in his 50s in this movie.
He just has long hair and a beard.
But like you can tell looking at the structure of his face that if he shaved, he would look significantly older than he has since he grew that beard.
I just think it's so funny because like people love Keanu.
He's such a good guy that I felt like this movie becomes a success.
And then everyone was like, Keanu is like this untouchable, beloved person in the film community and not just like a pretty bad actor that we kind of like sometimes.
Brad
Yeah, and that's what he is.
And I think one of the reasons he garnered so much attention afterwards was because of his attention to detail on the stunt work in this movie and the the gunmanship like like he nails it, man.
There's video.
There were videos circulating of him doing like SWAT team type, you know, courses where you're shooting with a rifle and then shotgun and then a pistol and like doing all of these different things with guns.
And he's genuinely really good at it.
And I think that was a big piece of what made him famous again was that he kind of hit that tide of social media YouTube culture of 2014 where, you know, there was just kind of this obsession with like people doing things well on the Internet.
And he just rode that tide back into stardom.
And people think he's a great actor now and he's not.
But he works really hard.
And there's a lot to admire there, man.
Bob
Yep.
Bob
So there's a director named Gareth Evans, not to be confused with Gareth Edwards, the Godzilla guy.
But Gareth Evans did a couple of movies called The Raid.
And I think they're like, man, are they Taiwanese?
They're like they're not Chinese films, but they're from, you know, they're Asian set films.
And like the entire careful mixing up Taiwan films.
Brad
I know.
Bob
Yeah, I know.
Bob
I'm trying very hard to tiptoe around that issue.
Bob
The entire premise of the first Raid movie is like this guy is basically on a SWAT team and this entire high rise building is controlled by the mafia and they have to basically like fight their way to the top of the building to take out this guy.
And it is one of the best action movies I've ever seen.
The second one, I think, is even better.
But hand to hand combat, gunplay, knife play, it's insanely violent, but like so much stunt work and really long takes.
And I think that like people who have seen the Raid movies watch John Wick and there is a level of respect for the stunt work that goes into these movies.
But there's something about like when all the scenes just end in someone having like a headshot, the stunt.
I don't I don't appreciate the stunt work as much.
You know what I mean?
It's kind of like sure that scene in Mission Impossible Fallout where they're like in the bathroom and Henry Cavill does his arm pumping thing like that scene is 10 times more exciting to me than anything in John Wick, because it's like these guys throw three punches and then Keanu pins them down and shoots them in the head.
And I think that's always been my knock on John Wick is like, guys, if you like John Wick, go watch the Raid.
It's like the platonic ideal version of what this movie could be.
Brad
You do know that we have a section of the show for that, Bob, right?
Bob
That's true.
I mean, have you ever heard of those movies, Brad?
They're kind of popular in like an underground way.
Brad
Yeah, no, I have not heard of them.
I did actually just watch.
I'm guessing that they are Asian dialogue, like wherever they are from in Asia.
They are not in English.
I did just watch a international foreign film, I believe, out of Hong Kong recently.
Bob, do you want to know about that one?
Please, please tell me.
It was called In the Mood for Love.
Bob
Oh, I love that movie.
Brad
Excellent.
Bob
Very similar to past lives.
A little bit slower, if I'm going to be honest.
Excellent film.
Yeah, really good.
Hong Kong, actually a great segue, Brad, because there's a director from Hong Kong that made his way to the States in the 90s named John Woo.
John Woo, a very influential action director.
And some of his earlier movies, like Hard Boiled, were huge influences on John Wick here.
And I think that's a segue for me, Brad, to talk about, I think the second film that I wrote down as an influence besides Unforgiven is the Michael Mann film Collateral, a movie that we've done on this podcast that also features a very climactic nightclub shootout.
And Michael Mann, people love the dude.
I appreciate many of his films.
I'm going to be honest, man.
I think that the bathhouse nightclub sequence in this film was better for me than the Collateral one.
Yeah, I think that's the moment where this movie kind of went up a level in terms of you could see where every dollar went on the screen.
It's a pretty cheap movie, but the lighting is very bold and tons of contrast, lots of shadow.
They just did a great job filming that sequence.
Brad
As I was watching it, it felt like video game-esque to me, but in a good way.
There's the portion where he's sneaking in and he gets in and he kills a few people without anyone knowing, and he does it at the right time so that they're checking in and the person will be like, area three clear.
And then they die right after they get off the radio.
And it's this awesome little moment of stealth that finally devolves into the wrong guy at the wrong time shoots his gun, and it just falls into utter pure chaos.
And within that chaos, I think what I love about the action in these movies is his ability to handle all of the wild things happening around them.
And yet he gives John Wick, Keanu Reeves, such a vision of movement and purpose, and there's no wasted movement.
He knows exactly where he's going and what he needs to do next, and it feels like he is reacting in the moment almost like a Matrix-esque, like he's able to go into a bullet time slow motion and do exactly what he needs, but it's all in absolute 100% full real time that you just get a really awesome juxtaposition of chaos and discipline that makes for very compelling action sequences.
Bob
And I thought that there are moments of sheer brutality that aren't glossed over.
Again, that's one of the things about these movies that really bothers me is there's so many headshots and CGI spurts of blood that it feels like a video game sometimes.
But then you have the moment of the guy picking up John Wick and throwing him off the balcony and he hits a concrete floor.
And the way the camera kind of drops along with him, and then it doesn't smoothly stop.
It's kind of panned down.
It just like thuds.
You can feel the impact of that hit on the floor.
Now, again, apparently Keanu Reeves is a Superman and can get up from having his back absolutely shattered by that fall.
But I really appreciate those kind of moments in this film.
It's what takes it from being kind of like a cheaply made slick looking direct to DVD movie and elevate it to something more.
Brad
Dude, the way he hits the floor reminds me of when Bilbo drops the one ring and it slams to the floor and it's so heavy and you feel the weight of the ring and you feel the weight of that fall.
It just feels so sudden and impactful.
Bob
Well, Brad, I think this might be a good time for us to hit pause.
We've been talking so much about the headshots and the many people killed in this movie.
I think that we have found a really good thematic pairing with our whiskey today.
So what do you say we go try this Heaven's Door Tennessee bourbon?
I don't know how many of them are at Heaven's Door, but sure, let's go do it.
All right.
So today we are checking out Heaven's Door Revival Tennessee straight bourbon whiskey.
Brad, this is the first whiskey we've ever had from the Heaven's Door label.
And if you are a fan of music and or the song Knockin' on Heaven's Door, then you know that this is a collaboration or a celebrity endorsed line of whiskey by the great Bob Dylan.
Now, Brad, I think we could not have picked a better whiskey thematically for the amount of kills in this movie to pair up with the whiskey called Knockin' on Heaven's Door.
I have to give myself a pat on the back for this one.
Brad
Yeah.
Did you know that they say the director and I think Keanu, this is like free trivia for Bob, gets you prepared for two facts and a falsehood.
He kills around 76 to 87 people in the film.
I like how they send them right on up to Heaven's Door.
Bob
They couldn't even pinpoint it.
They're like, let me give you a potential range of people.
We don't actually see some of them die on screen.
So we're just going to leave it open to interpretation.
Brad
I think it was like the director said one number, Keanu said another.
And like people who have counted it, you know, there's a few deaths that you're like, maybe that person didn't die.
Who knows?
Who's to say?
Another fun fact, when he asks the doorman how much weight he's lost, he says 60 kilograms, telling John Wick that there are 60 people inside, guards, I should say.
And that's why he lets them live.
Interesting.
Bob
Interesting.
All right.
Well, can we say some fun facts now about the whiskey that we're drinking today, Brad?
Because I'm super excited to dive into this one.
You know.
Like we said, this is a Tennessee straight bourbon whiskey.
It's aged for a minimum of six years old.
This is a sample that was given to us by our friend Zach Johnston.
And we had just a hell of a time trying to figure out what this was because it came in a sample bottle with a picture on it and no words.
And I am a enough of a drunk that I recognized it as a heaven's door product.
But the color of the label is different than the color of the label on the actual 750 milliliter bottle.
We had to do quite a bit of research to figure out that this is what it says it is, Brad.
And so I've just gone ahead and pulled up our friend Zach Johnston's notes on this whiskey on Uproxx from back in the day.
And this is what he says about it.
Just so that I know this is what he gave us.
It's aged for a minimum of six years old.
The barrels are left in a single story rickhouse in Tennessee.
And this is Zach's words where the cold air dominates and you never get the extremely high temps of crow's nests on high floors.
OK, so once once they're aged for the appropriate amount of time, the barrels are batched.
The whiskey is proofed down and we get this 46 percent or 92 proof whiskey.
Brad, I'm excited to dive in.
It's been a minute since we've had a Tennessee whiskey on this podcast.
What are your nosing notes on this bad boy?
Brad
This one has a really nice cinnamon spice going on here.
It gets a little bit minty.
There's vanilla, cherry, and it kind of reminds me we've we've given this note a few times before of like a strawberry cream saver.
I'm a big fan of this nose, Bob.
Bob
I'm going to give it a nine out of 10.
I'm going to be at just a seven and a half, Brad.
And I like a lot of the notes on this.
But then there's like this one note kind of underlying all of it.
And I'm just going to be as frank as I possibly can.
It's just like a cheap whiskey note.
It's a little bit astringent.
It's a little bit like acetone.
And it's bugging me a little bit.
I'm hoping that it's a more well-rounded flavor when we get to that.
But I'm with you.
I pick up a bunch of vanilla.
There's cherry, there's strawberry.
It's really, really nice.
Almost a wheat character.
But then there's like this, hey, this is a $15 bottle of whiskey that you found in your cousin's basement note going on here.
And I'm a little concerned.
So seven and a half for me because I'm cautiously optimistic.
Brad
Yeah.
And the palette has a lot of those flavors just muted down a little bit.
For me, the vanilla really sticks out.
The cinnamon is there.
It gets a little bit of a rye spiciness.
And I felt like it has like a little bit of an apple pie filling flavor.
It's like really kind of sugary and a little bit of that apple juiciness.
I'm going to give it an eight out of ten on the on the palette.
Bob
Yeah, I think I'll be in the same spot.
This is really good.
Like definitely above average.
And I would say even a step above that.
It's not going to knock your socks off.
But that sort of like black cherry ice cream note is really coming through for me.
It's got quite a bit of spice.
That mintyness definitely makes itself known on the palette more than it did.
So yeah, eight out of ten for me on the palette.
And then on the finish, I'm going to give it an eight again.
It's a long lasting finish.
There's a little bit of prickliness that sticks behind on your palette.
And then again, that cherry note is really, really present here.
Differently than it usually is for us on like a weeded bourbon.
This is not cherry cola.
This is like black cherry.
I really like this a lot.
Eight out of ten on the finish spread.
Brad
Yeah, I'll give it an eight and a half out of ten on the finish.
For me, it gets a little bit into a bread vibe.
There's some leather, cinnamon, mint.
And like you said, man, that dark cherry really sticks around for a while.
I think this is a pretty well balanced whiskey, Bob.
I think there's some really good flavors and notes going on.
And it's just complex enough to say that I think this is a nine out of ten on balance.
Bob
Yeah, I feel like my score seems a little bit inflated because I'm not overly impressed with this whiskey.
Like it's good.
But to me, it's like no better than good.
It's a fun night out with friends.
And sometimes that's all you need.
You know what I mean?
But in the grand scheme of things, I do think it's well balanced.
I'm going to give it an eight out of ten on balance.
And then when it comes to the price or the value at the time of review back in 2023, Zach noted that this averages at $54.99 a bottle.
So I don't know what it's going for today.
Brad, do you have stats on that?
Yeah, Bob, this is coming in at $54.99. All right.
Screw you, inflation.
We're staying at the same price.
I love it.
Thanks, Bob Dylan.
Brad, I think at 55, this is not a bad value per se.
It's a sourced whiskey that's six years old.
I wish it was cheaper.
This screams $40 whiskey to me.
But 55 is not awful.
I think I'll give it a six out of ten on value.
Brad
I think it's a better value than that.
I think you have some really interesting flavors.
And there's a depth and a complexity to it.
I'll give it a seven and a half out of ten.
Bob
All right.
So that's taking me out to a 37.5 out of 50.
Brad, where are you falling on this one?
I'm at a 42 out of.
Oh, my gosh, 42.
Dang.
All right.
So that's taking us to a 79.5 out of 100 or a 39.75 on average.
I'm a little I'm a little bit shocked at how much you like this one, man.
It's a good whiskey.
Don't get me wrong, but I don't think I would have pinpointed this as a 40 plus whiskey.
Brad
Yeah, I don't know if I would have either.
If I just drank this and said, give it a score out of 50.
I probably would have came to like a 40 39.
So, I mean, our combined score is right about where I'm at.
But, hey, you know, each individual part was pretty delicious here, Bob.
Bob
All right, Brad.
So we're coming, like I said, to a 39.75 out of 50.
Just shy of our kind of no brainer 40 mark recommendation.
I will give this a thumbs up.
I think I would probably put it in the try it before you buy it category.
Like, I don't know if I'd recommend just running out and buying a bottle, but this would probably set you back, you know, $12 a pour at the bar.
And I think it's definitely worth that.
Brad
Yeah, easily.
This is well worth it.
It's a really, really fun whiskey that has lots of great flavors.
Bob
I'd say go pick up a bottle.
Go for it.
Even though John Wick himself is a tater and drinks Blanton's very prominently in this film, I think that he probably would have liked pairing his exploits with this whiskey as well.
Brad
Brad.
Yeah.
John Wick is the ultimate like patron saint of hustle culture bros.
So, you know, Blanton's makes a lot of sense.
Sure, sure.
Bob
But this is the true working man's whiskey.
Yeah, it is, Bob.
All right, man.
What do you say we get back into John Wick?
Let's get to it.
Brad
All right, everybody.
That was Heaven's Door Revival, a bourbon that we overall really liked.
I think Bob was a little cooler on it.
But, you know, good reports, good marks.
Well done.
Bob
Yeah, I liked it.
And I think, once again, I knocked it out of the park with tying it to the afterlife because John Wick sent a good many people there.
Just so, so many.
It's wild.
Mm.
Brad, speaking of knocking on Heaven's Door here, I am feeling a sense of euphoria and paradise myself because I think I have secured a winning season when it comes to our next game, Two Facts and a Falsehood.
Brad Explains
Brad is gonna try to stump you both to our right.
Bob
And what is wrong, two facts and a falsehood.
Two Facts and a Falsehood is the part of the show where Brad presents me with three items as fact about the making of this movie, one of which is a complete lie.
Now, like I said, Brad, I haven't done the official tally.
I want to say I'm at like 17 wins on the season.
So I'm definitely over 500.
We're playing for pride at this point.
So I hope you've done your homework because, as you know, I am a noted John Wick expert, Brad.
Brad
Obviously, yes.
All the violence that you do and commit in your real life.
Yeah.
Yeah, it just translates here to the movie.
This is based on me.
This is what I'm saying.
All right, man, hit me with your two facts and a falsehood.
Fact number one, the security card who waves Wick onto the airport runway is reading the 1970s thriller novel Shibumi by Rod Whitaker under the pen name Trevanian, also about a retired master assassin dragged back into the game.
The story Vigo tells about how Wick once killed three men with a pencil is describing a crucial scene from the same novel.
Fact number two, the pistols that Keanu Reeves used throughout the film were a Smith & Wesson M&P 45 with a custom compensator and a Glock 19 when he is in the Red Circle Club and has to switch guns after running out of ammo.
Fact number three, during the hand to hand combat scenes, John Wick shows himself to be a judoka and use the Japanese traditional jujutsu, also known as judo.
Judo is a Japanese martial art emphasizing throws.
On the other hand, his rival assassin, Ms. Perkins, uses the Brazilian jujitsu as her fighting style.
Bob
I hate facts like fact number two, because I first of all, I don't know enough about guns to be intelligent and disprove it if it is false.
But secondly, like I learned nothing about that fact.
You know what I mean?
To be like you saying, like, sure, the shoes that this person wore were a pair of Jordan threes that go for $2,000.
It's like, OK, cool.
Like, you know, sure.
Neat.
Yeah.
So I hate number two and therefore want to give it no further attention.
So I'm going to say it's true.
One and three is what we're narrowing this down to.
I'm going to say that one is the falsehood, because I don't really remember much about it, and I don't want to prolong this any further.
I think I mean, three was very detailed.
So if you wrote that one like kudos to you, because that took a while to write all that.
Thanks, man.
One also was very detailed.
That's right.
That was the one about the security guard and the anecdote of him killing a guy with three guys with a pencil, which is really funny.
It reminds me of that scene in Ratatouille, which we just watched, where they talk about how the sous chef was like, I killed three men with this with the pinky.
Yeah.
Brad
Honestly, it made me think of.
Oh, geez.
Matt Damon, the the Bourne, the first Bourne movie where he kills that dude with the pen.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bob
I'm going to say number one is the falsehood, Brad, but I'm not going to say.
Brad
I'm going to say that in a season full of victories for you, how does it feel to end on a loss?
Bob
Was it three or two?
Brad
It was number two.
Number two was the falsehood.
Bob
OK.
Yeah, well, you wrote a shitty fact is what I'm saying.
Brad
The number three felt very similar to number two.
It's like, here's the guns he used.
Here's the fighting style he used.
Bob
Yeah, I guess.
Brad
I don't know.
You know, boo.
What I'm saying is, boo.
I think he picked the most interesting one.
Maybe I just wanted to talk about that one more, you know?
Yeah, it was good.
I kind of want to go read Shibumi now and learn about Master Assassin.
Bob
Not to be confused with Shibupi from The Music Man.
The way that you said Shibupi, I was like, oh, yeah, Shibupi.
Exactly.
All right, man, let's get back into talking about this movie a little bit.
Brad, I don't really have to.
Go ahead, go ahead.
Brad
I would say, here's the thing, Bob.
I mentioned it during our time of whiskey.
I think one of my problems with this movie might not even be the movie itself, because I enjoyed the movie.
It was fun.
It's a good action flick.
It feels like John Wick is the patron saint of hustle bro Chad culture.
Like, he's disciplined.
And if he's going to be a lover and a husband, he's going to be the absolute best one that ever existed.
And if he's going to take care of this dog, he's going to be the best dog owner ever.
And if he also wants to be a master assassin, he will be the greatest in the world.
And it feels like that is three things that certain online communities worship.
Oh, yeah.
It's like women, dogs, and guns.
Bob
Yep.
Brad
I like all those three.
I love all those three things.
My wife's great.
Guns are great.
Dogs are fun.
I'm fine with all of them, but there's something about this movie.
Bob
Let it be known.
Hold on.
I'm sorry.
Guns are great.
Dogs are fine.
Those are the words you just used.
Can we say anything more American than that on this podcast?
No, man, I'm with you.
And I think that even more than just those three things, it appeals to a very Twitter heavy manosphere of guys who just discovered Marcus Aurelius and now post the daily stoic insights for your life.
John Wick doesn't ever talk.
So of course, yeah, he can fall off of a balcony and keep going because he just internalizes the pain and decides to not express it ever.
Yeah, exactly, man.
It wouldn't surprise me if he was Irish.
Just bear the boy.
Brad
Bear the boy.
Bob
I do think that it's hard for me to talk about John Wick without doing a really bad accent because everybody in this movie that talks about him, they use the F word and then they use an accent.
They're just, the fucking car belonged to fucking John Wick.
It's always John Wick.
Brad
It's awesome, dude.
Oh, 100%.
This movie also kind of gave me comic book vibes.
Like, I don't know if you got that, but with the way that they put subtitles for some of the Russian words, especially like Baba Yaga and color, like it felt a little bit like a wham, pop, bow, like 1960s Batman movie.
Not that they were illustrating the heads, just there was something about it that made it feel comic book-y to me.
It's stylized and it kind of works, but it's kind of chintzy.
Bob
I don't know.
I want to talk a little bit about the influence this movie has had in the years since.
And I think that there's a number of directions we can go.
One of them is the rapid expansion of and then ultimately deterioration of an IP into a franchise.
So like, this movie comes out, then they're like, we want to take the parts of this that make sense to expand into a sequel.
And I think it was a really great impulse.
Like, you can't just keep killing things that are close to John Wick and having him revenge them.
Like, it doesn't work.
So what they decide to do in the second movie is like, there is an inciting incident, but it's more about building out the world of the assassins and the people that pay them and the rules of the Continental.
And then the way the second movie ends, it's like, well, now John Wick has started basically an international manhunt for himself.
And so then you get kind of like globe hopping in the third movie.
And the fourth movie is just like way too indulgent.
It's three hours long.
Like, there's no reason for it to be that long.
But it started with this tiny little hour and a half film.
It balloons to this three hour action epic.
There's a TV show.
There's a spinoff movie.
I think it's really emblematic of the way that like, A, we get very few original things these days.
And then when something original hits, it's like, how do we milk this for all it's worth within like a seven year span until nobody wants it anymore?
You know?
Brad
And I think that's one of the problems is like, there's no stewardship of the IP.
It's just milking.
And like, I think that there's a huge difference when you take an intellectual property and say like, what can we do that will best serve the universe we've created rather than the people who own the rights to the universe we created?
And I think that like, I don't know if we'll ever really get a universe that is allowed to get popular and stay true to who it is.
Because at some point, people with money bags and hold the purse strings get involved and they want to invest in it and make it profitable.
And it's very hard for the author or director or writer of a script or a book, novel series, whatever.
It's hard for them to be like, yeah, no, I don't want $40 million for the rights to my book.
But like, what do you do when it just gets churned into the ground?
Bob
Well, and then I think that the other way that it influences cinema is kind of to your point.
Like, it's this superhero comes out of retirement to kick ass genre that we keep getting.
And it's always painted as...
So there's a movie that this inspired called Nobody that came out a few years after it.
It has Bob Odenkirk from Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, as an ex CIA agent that is just like a dad now.
And then basically goes John Wick on people.
And it's as ridiculous as it sounds, but it was fun.
But there's a whole subgenre of movies that are like, it can't just be a guy who has something bad happen to him and then avenges them.
It has to be a guy that like, oops, we killed the CIA.
And the number one assassin that the CIA used for 20 years is Dog.
And now he has to come murder everyone in the tri-state area.
And it's a subgenre I kind of hate.
This came out the exact same year as the first Denzel Equalizer movie, which has essentially the same plot.
Ex CIA operative, now living a quiet life, has to defend his friends from evil, whatever.
And there's like three of those movies now.
It just seems like really lazy to be like, we don't know anything about this guy.
And you come to find out he's like the world's most machine-driven assassin ever.
He can never just be a guy.
Brad
I mean, I remember reading books by, I think the author is Vince Flynn, who felt kind of like a Tom Clancy acolyte almost.
But his books start off with a CIA assassin spy who is trying to be married and live a normal life.
And then his wife gets killed.
And he has to go back into the field and defend America and blah, blah, blah.
So it feels, and that was probably, I don't know, like 2003, five, seven area.
So this is a trope at this point, Bob.
And the real question is, do you feel like John Wick is a good, is it good?
Does it work in that realm of trope?
Does it do better than its imitators or predecessors?
I think it's good.
Bob
And that's the weird thing is like, I think it is both pretty good at hinting at the unforgiven route, which is like, he doesn't want to be dragged back in.
And there is a sense of mournfulness, but then it's also like, I like it because it's also trashy and kind of ignores that whole side of things too.
So it weirdly exists in this in-between world where it's like, it has its cake and eats it too.
And that's why I think for me, the sequels are diminishing returns because it's just how many people can John Wick kill this time?
And at that point, I'd rather have a Bourne movie or a James Bond movie because you made this point earlier.
There's stewardship of those franchises in a way that doesn't feel like, let's just stick John Wick in this situation and see what happens.
Brad
Yeah.
I mean, even the Mission Impossible movies, sure, maybe a few of the early ones might have had some meddling, but I mean, honestly, I don't think they did.
Tom basically got to choose his director and they made the movies that they want to make and here we are.
Sure, Mission Impossible 2 exists, directed by John Woo, already mentioned on this podcast.
And besides that kind of misstep within the franchise, Tom Cruise has steered the franchise incredibly well.
And I do think that there is a beauty to allowing an author, and I'm using that to stand for whatever it is, director, movie star, whatever, but the author of an IP to be the guiding voice.
And we've seen what happens when the author of a franchise is removed in Disney's Star Wars.
So F them.
I like how that was kind of a verb.
Bob
The author is removed and Disney's Star Wars.
Brad
You know?
All right, man.
Well, on that note, let me tell you about how much I hate Disney's Star Wars.
Bob
How much time do you have?
I actually had no idea that you were not a fan.
This is news to me.
Yeah, well, you know, I keep these things close to my vest.
Well, Brad, on that note, I think it is time for us to get into our last segment of the day, which we call Let's Make It a Double.
Let's Make it a Double
We're near the end of the episode, so thanks for listening to the Film and Whiskey Show.
Let's pair another film with this one, even if it's a struggle.
It's the final segment of the day.
Now let's make it a double.
Bob
Let's Make It a Double is the part of the show where we pick a movie to pair up with this one to make the perfect double feature.
Brad, I think you're right in that I have spoiled all of my potential picks for Let's Make It a Double, so I'm going to try to wrap my brain.
You mentioned like 18 different movies.
Brad
I know, man.
Bob
I'm going to rack my brain for a second while you give me your perfect pairing here.
Brad
I think I am going to go with...
I'm trying to decide if I want to do the first or the second Bourne movie.
Honestly, at this point, I don't remember the name of the second Bourne movie.
It's Bourne Identity, Ultimatum's the third one.
What's the second one?
Supremacy.
Supremacy.
I'll go with Bourne Supremacy.
We've already talked about Bourne Identity on this show a few times.
I think Supremacy falls more in line with this because it follows him as his girlfriend, wife that they escaped together died, was killed by assassins, and he goes on a revenge spree to get himself out of the game again.
So same movie, and I'm going to recommend it because it was a good action flick.
Bob
I just thought of a movie, and I don't know how well it actually connects or not, but I'm going to go with it, Brad.
Just because you didn't mention it already.
It's a George Clooney movie called The American.
It came out, oh, I don't know, 2010-ish, and it was still while George Clooney was making big movies that were going for Oscars.
And so it's a movie about an assassin, but it's definitely more of an art house-y vibe.
But it captures that sort of mournfulness that I was talking about with Unforgiven, the sense that you can never really escape your past, you can never really leave that life behind no matter how much you try, and the sense of kind of tragedy and fate involved in that.
I remember really loving that movie, and I haven't seen it in at least 10 years.
I'd love to go back and rewatch that.
So I'm going to pair it with John Wick to give myself that opportunity.
It's called The American.
Brad
There you go.
Yeah, I mean, I do think that there's something powerful about the message that our choices matter, and that, you know, whether it's emotional or relational or assassin related, like, our actions have consequences, and they're going to follow us.
I don't know if I always like the lack of grace involved in movies like this, that, you know, we are cursed, you and I.
This is the life we shall live.
Bob
Last note I'll make on John Wick.
The guy that plays the sniveling son, you know who that is?
Alfie Allen?
Alfie Allen.
We talked about him a few weeks ago on Jojo Rabbit.
I would not have known that.
He had very puby facial hair in this one.
Unrecognizable behind that very puby facial hair.
How'd you describe that, Bob?
What is it like?
It was very reminiscent of pubes, Brad.
Brad
Oh, okay.
Bob
I think our audience needs to hear you say that at least four more times before we wrap I'm trying to put enough emphasis on the word pubes that people understand what it is I'm referring to.
Brad
Yeah, it's not obvious if you don't.
Bob
All right.
Well, those are our picks for Let's Make It a Double presented by Blackwood Distilling Company.
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Brad
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So if you're looking to get started with Blackwood, like Bob said, go to bourbonoutfitter.com use the promo code bourbonoutfitter.com slash filmwhiskey, I should say, and check it out because they make really good stuff.
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Bob
All right, Brad, we're going to give this movie some final scores.
I'm going to give it an 8 out of 10.
I liked it way more than I remembered.
I think because I was reading the sort of eye-rolling mythology and gadgets and stuff of the later films back onto this one, I was really pleasantly surprised at how lean and mean this thing was.
And it didn't try to overreach and be something that it's not.
And I respect that.
I respect a movie that knows what it is.
I'm going to give it an 8 out of 10.
Brad
Yeah, I'm kind of in a similar place.
I really enjoyed it.
I don't know if I'll ever return to it.
But it is a fun action thriller that has a lot of good mythos, world building, some great choreographed action sequences.
I'm going to 7 and 1 half out of 10.
It's a fun flick.
If you haven't seen it and you like action films, go check it out.
It's totally worth your time.
Is it a modern classic, Brad?
Nah.
I know that it did a lot to advance the world of action film, but no, it's not a modern classic, Bob.
Bob
I think that I would say yes, but I don't think it's the best example of what it's trying to do.
I'd still point people toward The Raid if you just want incredible fight choreography.
But in terms of capturing an American audience, popularizing this sort of stunt work, becoming a bankable IP, I don't know many action movies this century that have that sort of reputation.
The only other one that kind of came from the same place and expanded was the Taken franchise with Liam Neeson.
But those movies didn't change the way action films were made afterwards.
And I think this one kind of did.
So even though I don't think it's a great movie, I do think it's a modern classic, Brad.
Brad
Okay.
Yeah, you are entitled to your own wrong opinion, Bob.
Bob
Well, I do think that sometime during this offseason, what we'll do is we're going to name both every film this season and every movie that qualifies for those criteria from the last 20 years that we've reviewed on this show over our nine seasons and try to put together the ultimate canon of 21st century movies, Brad.
Brad
Yeah, I think that'll be a lot of fun.
It'll be cool to put it out there.
And you can use that as like your own little AFI 100 list that you need to check off.
Bob
All right.
So it's a 7.75 out of 10 from us on average.
Folks, we will be back next week.
And what we're coming back with next week is the reason that we do this podcast.
At the end of every season, we put all 32 movies into a bracket and we start whittling it down one by one until we can crown the champion of season nine.
What we would absolutely love is if you guys would go to our website, filmwhiskey.com.
We have the season nine bracket on the site.
The way we determine that is that we, you know, we'll explain this in the episode, but we basically rank order the films based on the scores we gave them to get our seating in the bracket.
It's a super fun time to listen along, but we'd like to know what your champion of season nine would be.
So you can let us know after you download your bracket at filmwhiskey.com.
You can find us on any of our social media accounts, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, or YouTube at Film Whiskey.
Brad
Or if you want to join the discord, we are on that every single day talking to you guys, fans of the Film Whiskey podcast.
So if you want to join the conversation, you can find a link at the end of every single one of our show notes.
Bob
Join us next week for the bracket challenge.
But until then, I'm Bob Book.
I'm Brad Gee.
And we'll see you next time.
