Bohemian Rhapsody / Old Overholt 114 (feat. Chris Blatner)

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In 2018, director Bryan Singer
and star Rami Malek.

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Gave the world a biopic that
sizzles and pops, but lacks any

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real substance.
Oh shots fired breath.

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I like it in 2020 beam.
Suntory gives us a familiar

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brand, but kicks things up a
notch.

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The film is Bohemian Rhapsody
the whiskey is old Overholt 114

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and we'll review them both.
This is the film and whiskey.

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Podcast.
Welcome to the film and whiskey

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podcast, where each week, we
review a classic movie and a

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glass of whiskey.
I'm Bob book, and I oppose of

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calling this, a classic movie.
Yeah.

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We're gonna have to, we're gonna
put an asterisk next to that one

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bread.
But yeah, this is Brad G.

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We are Excited today not to talk
about the movie, although we'll

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get to that.
We're really excited because

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we're drinking a really awesome
new whiskey, but more

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importantly than that, Bob, we
have a great friend of show here

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with us.
Why don't you introduce him?

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Yeah, so we have brought on our
friend Chris Blattner known as

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the urban bourbon Heist on
Instagram.

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Chris is one of our oldest
friends in the world of whiskey

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and one of our very first
listeners, I can't believe we

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haven't had him on yet, but
Chris, it's so good to have you

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here.
R.

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Thanks for being with us today
while Brad and Bob, thank you

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very much for having me.
I am a fan of the show and have

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been for a long time.
I continually say like you guys

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can break down a movie like
nobody else and talk about it.

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And so it's exciting to be here
and to drink whiskey with you

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guys and to hear how you guys
are going to break down between

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me and Rhapsody.
So it should be a fun really fun

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time.
Yeah, we're excited to have you.

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For the ride.
This episode, everybody was

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actually intended to be part of
our bad movie bonus.

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Series, if that tells you
anything about where this

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episode is going, we reached out
to Chris and said, hey, jump on

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this bonus episode with us.
We're going to drink old

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Overholt together which is a
whiskey with the kind of, very

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limited distribution right now.
And then we had a little bit of

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a snafu as you heard about with
our programming change a couple

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weeks ago.
And so we decided to make up for

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it by bumping, Bohemian Rhapsody
up into a regular weekly episode

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and that's And of the rub here,
Brad, you're talking about how

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you don't know if this is a
classic movie.

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I agree.
I mean, it's only two years old

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and yet at the same time that
was nominated for best picture

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and it won best actor and it
made a billion dollars at the

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worldwide box office.
It's the highest grossing biopic

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of any kind of biopic in the
history of the world.

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So you know, in a sense I kind
of feel like we may not like the

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movie but it's definitely a
worthy candidate to be talked

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about on this show.
Well, I think that the reason it

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has hit such amazing numbers is
the I think it's really just an

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enduring Testament to the power
of Freddie Mercury.

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Oh absolutely.
I think we can all start this

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episode by saying, Freddie
Mercury, is one of the greatest

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superstars that has ever graced.
The musical genre like the dude

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was spectacular.
Queen is one of the greatest

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bands ever to live and I know
Chris.

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Bob are you?
With me on that, at the very

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least, for sure.
Oh, a huge, huge Queen fan.

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I mean, just just one of those
bands that kind of no matter

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when you grow up it just kind of
transcends, you know, it's one

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of those bands like everyone
knows songs from Queen and and

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Brad you had said that that
Freddy is like one of the best

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ever.
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he's the best frontman.
Probably ever of a rock group, I

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mean, there's a lot of really
great ones out there.

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But is anyone really better than
Freddie Mercury?

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I would say, no, I'm not really
sure that there is and he's

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actually one of the people I
have like an ice breaker

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question that, you know, you
always need to have in your back

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pocket.
That is, if you could choose any

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singing voice, to be your
singing voice, who would you

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choose?
And my number one answer is

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always.
Ways Freddie Mercury.

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His voice is just unbelievable.
Yeah, it's so rare to find

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somebody with that much of a
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You know, as he got older and
before he passed away,

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tragically from AIDS, he
actually branched out in was

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doing Opera for a while.
Like he had his hand in so many

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different things.
It's because he had this

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incredible talent and guys if we
can transition into the movie a

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little bit here, I'm going to
say it like this.

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I don't think Freddie Mercury
would feel incredibly honored by

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what they did with his memory in
this film.

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Like this is the most
paint-by-numbers cliche ridden

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horribly written over.
The top acted sloppily directed

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musical biopic I can think of
like there's tell us how you

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really think the same.
Like there's probably been five

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or six biopics from the music
genre that came out in the last

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few years and I would pick any
of them over this just As a

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film.
And it really blows my mind that

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this is the one that everyone
latched onto.

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And and not only that, they went
to see it because I can

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understand it having like a big
opening weekend getting a lot

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of, you know, early box office.
But this thing blew up, it just

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kept growing and kept growing
which tells me that something in

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this movie, like struck a chord
with the general population.

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And, you know, Brad is a guy who
really loves movies and really

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wants people to watch.
Good movies.

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It's kind of concerning to me
because Because I think that the

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cliches are so obvious.
That the manipulation is so

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obvious.
See, here's the thing though.

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Bob like we talked about walk,
the line just a few weeks ago

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and we basically said this is a
paint-by-numbers biopic and and

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we loved it.
I think we gave it around a 99

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and a half, eight and a half
some somewhere in that upper

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echelon of movies and I just
look at it, I go.

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Okay well if that was a
paint-by-numbers biopic but we

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really loved it.
What was the difference between

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That.
And this, I think that's a

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really fair point.
But, and I was thinking about

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this, too.
I think that there's moments in

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Walk the Line where they
actually write a full scene,

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like the scene, where Reese
Witherspoon and Joaquin Phoenix

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are in that Diner, and they're
first getting to know each

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other.
She's asking him questions about

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the toll, that the road is
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This movie, like, they don't
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dialogue.
It's just like, they'll cut to a

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scene specifically so that a
character can say one thing and

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then they'll cut right to the
next scene.

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And it's Almost like, they're
not even trying to develop the

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characters in the movie.
It's just like we need the

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audience to know this thing.
So let's insert 15 seconds of

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somebody saying that thing and
then we'll go to the next scene.

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I think a good illustration of
what you just said is like when

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they sort of hint at how some of
the more popular songs that

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Queen has, come to be known for
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Arrived at that song.
Like they didn't even go into,

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like, create a, like even touch
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Like, you know, they like, we
will rock you, they just show

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them clapping their hands, a
couple times and stomping their

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feet.
And that was like, the the

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extent of the creative process
for that particular song, which

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has become like this song that
seriously, everyone knows that

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song that's listen to Music and
it would have been nice to see,

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like a little bit of, like, what
really went into that particular

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song or any of the huge Queen
hits, like how they actually

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came to be.
And they kind of just really

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glossed over all of that
incredibly.

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Well, the most you ever get is
when Roger, Taylor is writing a

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song about his car and they yell
at him for it, and that's about

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it.
It.

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Yeah, and there you go, there's
the creative process.

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So I don't want to get too far
down the rabbit hole here,

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because I want to restrain
myself from just dumping on the

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movie.
And I want to try to explain why

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I think it's a bad movie, but in
order for us to get to that

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point, Brad, we need you to
break down this film.

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So, it's time for our favorite
segment.

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America's favorite segment, Brad
explains.

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This is where Brad breaks down
the plot of the film that he has

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just seen often for the first
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Brad, was this your first time?
I'm seeing Bohemian Rhapsody.

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It definitely was Bob.
Sounds like it was a momentous

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occasion for you.
So Brad, can you break down for

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our audience?
The plot of the movie?

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Bohemian Rhapsody?
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So at the start of the movie, we
have a young farokh basara, who

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is living with his parents.
He's working at Heathrow

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throwing luggage around and he
follows a few bands and he goes

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and finds the Proto version of
Queen hanging.

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Out doing a doing a gig doing
their thing, you know what I

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mean?
And he sings a few notes, Adam

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because they're their original
singer left and they go, oh,

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man, we're going to harmonize to
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And then and then we're going to
be Superstars two seconds later

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and then and then through the
rest of the movie, they become

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more and more Superstars.
And they have this dude who

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says, no, I don't want you to
do.

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Bohemian Rhapsody, I want you to
do this song about a car and its

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tail pipe.
And, and they say You lost us

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man.
You're going to be the man who's

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known for losing Queen and and
that was kind of a setback I

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guess.
And so Freddie turns out that

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he's gay and that like plays a
big role in the movie and his

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life and he kind of breaks up at
the band and then he gets back

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together for a Live Aid
performance to help Ethiopia and

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and yeah, there's stuff happens
but I can't really Remember it?

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There it is Brad.
You've explained to the film.

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Here's the reason you can't
understand any of it.

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Brad are.
You can't remember any of it.

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Brad is because this movie is a
filmed version of a Wikipedia

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article, like them, the more I
think about it, the more it's,

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you know, I keep going back to
that lesson.

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We learned from Trey, Parker and
Matt Stone from South Park where

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they talked about how to build
the plot of an episode or of a

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movie and how each plot element
basically needs to happen.

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And then have either this And so
this happens or this happens,

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but then this happens and a
complication arises.

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This movie is literally just
this happens and this happens

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and this happens and there's
there's no heft, there's no

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weight to anybody's decisions,
it feels like throughout the

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film.
They literally are just

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including things for fanservice,
you know, there we Will Rock

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You.
Number that Chris was talking

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about earlier is, is so I
rolling Lee bad for me, because

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the way that they frame it in
the movie too, is like these

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guys are hanging out in the
studio and And they literally

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say to each other.
We need to give back to the

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fans, man.
They've given so much to us.

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Let's give something to them.
And this movie, like it has the

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Fingerprints of the surviving
members of Queen all over it.

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And I think one of my biggest
frustrations is that you can

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tell, when the creative process
is being tampered with and I

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really do feel badly for the
writers of this film because

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Queen was so intensely involved
in the making of this movie,

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they heavily guarded, you know,
their He selling their rights.

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Originally, this movie had been
in talks about 10 years ago with

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Sacha Baron Cohen to Star, as
Freddie Mercury, and which is

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something that I think is just
cool to imagine any way, but

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they had such a huge falling out
because Sacha Baron Cohen was

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saying, we need to make this an
edgier movie, Freddy obviously

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lived a very edgy life, we can't
sanitize everything and queen

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very much disagreed with that.
And I think the product that we

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get at the end of the day, is
something that so, Clearly

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presents, most of the members of
queen as people who can do no

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wrong and it really takes any
Edge or any bite out of this

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movie.
It's just a very, it seems

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sanitized even watching it if
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Well, and with with that edge
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is that none of it is
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Like even when it comes down to
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and this might Getting into the
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But everything about this movie
is like so bright that it

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doesn't even feel like it's
representing real life.

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Not like the scenes, all feel
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The the actors feel like they
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movie just felt too shiny and to
Papi and like I it just it just

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left a sour taste in my mouth
that I Was like none of this

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feels real.
And I think going back to my

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comparison to walk the line,
there is something rugged and

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real about Walk.
The Line like when you watched

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him growing up and fishing and
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accident.
Like all of it, felt grounded

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and real and raw.
Nothing about this movie.

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Felt very real, or raw know it
felt, it definitely felt like it

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was Glossed over it felt like
they just tried to like Bob had

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alluded to that.
They just tried to hit these

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little points throughout their
career that they wanted to

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highlight and and sort of for no
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You know, it was just, we want
to see these few things and we

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want to fit them in and they
didn't even really figure out a

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good way how to fit in
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And Bob you also mention I This
movie had all sorts of problems

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from from the get-go because of
the issues with acting they

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replace the director like
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movie.
And I think it just shows how

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the movie reflects that.
It's kind of just sloppy.

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It's super sloppy movie.
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was Bryan Singer, who has become
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pedophilia.
And he was actually the director

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of the movie, The Usual
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to talk.
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sort of intersection between
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being in the same movie.
We just didn't want to talk

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about that movie right now, and
he cropped up again here.

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He filmed most of the movie
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And from what I've read online,
he was responsible for the

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recreation of the Live Aid
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movie to which incidentally is.
I think the strongest directed

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part of this whole movie.
The ending of this film actually

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brought the movie up a couple
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you know, 3/4 of it were so so
bad, but you're right Chris.

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I really do think that
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like a mess.
There's there's no forward

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momentum to the movie.
There's nothing tying one scene

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to the next.
I feel like parts of it looked

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like they were rushed because
you can tell like I'm not

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usually the guy that notice is
bad wigs on people in movies.

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But but the whole first half of
the movie before Freddy gets

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short hair and a mustache, every
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As the worst wigs I've ever seen
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And, and like, like, like
low-budget movie levels of wigs,

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they were, they were
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And I think that's one of the
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frustrating to me, is like, the
wigs are bad, Freddy's teeth or

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terrible, like Rami Malek.
Can barely even talk through

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those teeth.
The makeup is bad.

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Like, it's just there's parts of
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amateurish that I just can't
wrap my mind around it.

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Yeah, I agree.
I actually think that.

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When you talked about the
Freddy's teeth and Rami Malek

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they like so over-exaggerated
obviously Freddie Mercury is

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known for that over buying and
went like Rami Malek could

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barely close his mouth.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
It was, it was just, it was

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almost cartoonish.
Well, and I noticed it

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especially to with, I think I
mentioned the make up a second

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ago, but like they keep aging
Freddie, Mercury's, parents to

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the point where like the makeup
is like their faces are

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immovable.
They look like they've been

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mummified and like they start
aging them right from the

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beginning and poor Freddy
Mercury's Mom wearing this

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terrible wig this awful.
You know, it looks like the kind

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of age makeup you put like that
they would put on you when you

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were doing like high school
musicals like they put they drew

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the lines, the age lines, and
her cheeks and stuff.

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I looked it up after the movie
was over the woman who played

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Freddy, Mercury's mom was 42
years old and they made her up

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that much.
At some point you just have to

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ask like why don't they just
hire a 55 year old person to

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play this role and age them from
55 to 70 or whatever it was like

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why are you taking a young
person and continually applying

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this terrible make up to them?
Well I think Chris really hit

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the nail on the head when he
described it as cartoonish.

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The movie just continually
portrays Freddy with every

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single over-the-top stereotype
that has ever been applying

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Freddie.
And it just feels like somebody

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off the street.
They ask somebody off the

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street.
Like, hey, you've heard of

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Freddie Mercury, what do you
think about him?

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And the guy was like, oh yeah,
he's like really over-the-top.

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He does everything kind of crazy
and that's that.

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And so they use that to do
everything about him like his

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overbite, his sexual preference.
The the way he carries himself

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with people just everything
about him in this movie is so

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Cartoonish over-the-top
ridiculous that well, but here's

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the thing brat.
Like it's over-the-top and

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cartoonish and yet none of it
rings true to who Freddie

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Mercury was like, if you've
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stage, he did bring this.
Like he was a very slender,

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slight, man, but he brought this
raw masculine energy to the way

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that he performed on stage and I
don't think Rami Malek captures

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that at all.
He definitely captures the sort

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of sensitivity of Freddy and the
insecurities.

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But even in the Live Aid
performance, he does a really

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good job of imitating, you know,
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But I just never got the sense
of that sort of masculinity that

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he brought to his singing.
And I think that it carries over

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to the rest of the film.
We talked about how it seems.

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So sanitized this movie was so
sanitized, in fact that they

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were able to scream this movie
in China and only cut, I think

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two minutes out of the movie and
China is, you know, famously one

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of the most Pressive restrictive
markets, you know, anything that

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smacks of a homosexual
relationship like the sensors,

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come down hard.
And I think it says a lot about

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this movie that Freddie Mercury,
this hugely, debaucherous, sex,

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drugs, and rock, and roll.
Figure has been portrayed.

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So tamely that all they had to
do was cut two minutes out of

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the movie, and they could screen
it in the most restrictive,

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movie viewing area of the world.
Is it bad that I kind of wish

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that I I'd seen the Chinese cut
because then that means I would

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have had to spend to last
minutes watching this movie.

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It's, that's not a bad point.
Wait, you know, I do think

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that's a huge.
That's the the biggest myths of

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this movie is how they they
almost vilified, Freddy's sexual

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preference in this movie and and
they didn't, you know, when they

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portray has Actual romantic
relationships.

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And in this movie, they actually
portray his relationship with

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Mary more than anything else in
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They just barely allude to, you
know, him being gay.

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Yeah.
I mean, they obviously it's part

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of the movie, but they kind of
just wash over it.

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And I feel like they somewhat
vilify it and say, you know,

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Freddie was going down the wrong
path.

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I think, especially that scene
where he throws the party at the

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mansion and and the rest of the
band members come and they're

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and they're all married and and
they kind of say this isn't our

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scene anymore Freddy.
And they sort of, I feel like

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they vilified his lifestyle and
they vilify his flamboyance in

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in that particular scene of the
movie and like he's going down

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the wrong path.
And like the other three band

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members have their totally
flying there on the straight and

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narrow.
Yeah, and like even the way they

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confront him, like Brian May
just stands up and like, Taps

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Freddy on the shoulder and he's
like, you know, sometimes you

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can be really mean and then they
walk away.

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Yeah.
Like the like the other band

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members do nothing wrong in this
whole film and and the funny

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thing Chris like you're talking
about this scene where he's

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having this like debaucherous
party I actually laughed out

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loud at that scene because
Freddy is like we're gonna throw

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a party.
We're gonna bring in dwarfs,

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it's gonna be crazy.
And I'm expecting Like the Wolf

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of Wall Street, you know, and
then they cut to the scene and

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it's just people standing around
nicely, like, having a toast of

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champagne.
Like the most debaucher is they

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get is people be like Freddy
walks into the party and

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everyone goes.
Woo.

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And that's the extent of this
crazy party and it's so crazy

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that the other members of Queen
can't even be there.

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They feel so uncomfortable.
I'm like this looks like a

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dinner party like it's nothing
crazy about this.

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Yeah.
Bob I think you bring up a great

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point.
I would like I'd love to see a

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Scorsese directed Queen biopic.
Oh yeah, that's a great point.

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Do you think there'd be enough,
Catholic guilt in there now,

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maybe a little bit.
You know, Chris I wanted to talk

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really briefly about something
that you were alluding to and

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that was the character of Mary,
who is Freddie, Mercury's wife,

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who you know?
They she then finds out that

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he's gay and they get a divorce
and I felt like that was a huge

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missed opportunity in some ways
to and I think this is where

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the, the kind of dizzy.
Vacation of things really comes

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into play because they make,
Merry a very understanding

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person.
And I think by all accounts she

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was, but there's no sense of the
struggle that she has with his

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homosexuality.
There's really no grappling for

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Freddy with his sexuality at
all, like he a little bit

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alludes to it and there's that
scene where he feels tempted by

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that guy in the truck.
Stop but Freddie Mercury was gay

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at a time when it was really Not
okay, to be gay in many, many

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parts of the world.
And I think that to honestly and

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accurately portray his struggle
with that, and the responses to,

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it would have made this movie so
much better, but they turn marry

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into this really fakely
Progressive person who she seems

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like a character that would be
in a 20/20 movie or 2018, you

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know, time frame, where she's so
openly accepting that.

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There's no, there's no struggle
at all.

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He's like, hey, we need to get a
divorce because I'm gay and

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she's like, all right, you know,
life's going to be hard for you

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but I understand and it was just
there was like there was no

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dramatic tension to that
decision at all zero.

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Yeah the the way that she
delivers a line where she

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basically says because he tells
her you know, I think I'm

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bisexual and she goes, you're
gay Freddy and you can't she

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said something to the effect of
like you can't even control it

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or you were born that way or
yeah.

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And like Just leaves it at that
and it just feels so I don't

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know.
It feels like it was just doused

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in hand sanitizer like yeah it
just feels der EFT of any real

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conflict or frustration because
I don't know.

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It's a weird thing.
It's like we want people to be

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loving and caring and accepting,
you know, for anybody wherever

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they're at in their life.
But at the same time to make a

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good movie.
I feel like it's okay to Say hey

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man, this is the 80s. 95 to 99%
of the world wasn't okay with

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this and I kind of doubt that
Mary just had this.

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Well, this is just who you are
and I'm a little bit sad about

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it but, but we'll get over it
well and Brad on that note and

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right before we go to break
here, I want to say that the

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reason that I'm grappling with
what to criticize and what not

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to is because let's just say for
a second that that is exactly

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how that conversation with Mary
went, okay.

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Like maybe Maybe it was, maybe
she was that accepting in that

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open.
The problem with this movie is

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that if you do any sort of
research on it, I would say a

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solid 50 to 60 percent of this
movie is completely made of like

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just didn't happen.
You have composite characters

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all over the place where, you
know, people from The Real World

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00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,600
in Queens life are composited
into one person to kind of save

446
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,800
time and save space, developing
characters.

447
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,400
The Mike Myers character never
never existed, he's not a real

448
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,600
person and and which makes me
even more upset.

449
00:25:57,900 --> 00:26:00,500
Mike Myers is even in the movie
because I feel like they

450
00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:04,900
literally only got him in this
movie to say that one stupid

451
00:26:04,900 --> 00:26:08,400
line about the Bohemian Rhapsody
song where he says.

452
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,200
This will never be the song that
teenagers bang their heads to in

453
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,800
a car.
Well I'm about I'm in love with

454
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,100
my car.
Geez, I love it.

455
00:26:19,300 --> 00:26:22,000
Well that's the kind of song
teenagers can crank up the

456
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,600
volume in their car and bang
their heads to Bohemian Rhapsody

457
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,200
will never be that.
Song.

458
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,600
And I literally fell.
I thought he was going to turn

459
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,300
to the camera and just wink, and
break the fourth wall because

460
00:26:34,300 --> 00:26:37,500
it's like such this obvious
reference to Wayne's World.

461
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,400
Yeah.
Then I was like, did you really

462
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,500
put that in the final edit of
this movie?

463
00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:46,500
Like there's so many things like
that that you know.

464
00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:50,100
And and I think the most
egregious of them is this idea

465
00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:54,400
of Freddy's diagnosis with AIDS
prior to the Live Aid

466
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,200
performance, when in reality
Freddie wasn't even diagnosed

467
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,900
with AIDS and Two years after
the Live Aid, performance and

468
00:27:00,900 --> 00:27:03,800
didn't die for, like, another
three or four years after that.

469
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:07,900
And I think it's like they, they
didn't know where to go with

470
00:27:07,900 --> 00:27:09,900
this movie.
They didn't know how to give it,

471
00:27:09,900 --> 00:27:12,900
any sort of dramatic tension or
something to build to.

472
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,200
And they were like, well, you
know, Queen did a really good

473
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,200
job at Live Aid.
So why don't we just build to

474
00:27:17,208 --> 00:27:19,500
that?
And in order to build to that

475
00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:24,700
they just concoct all these fake
dramatic beats so that we walk

476
00:27:24,700 --> 00:27:27,200
out on this, really triumphant
note of them at Live Aid.

477
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,700
And like, you know, do I expect
100% authenticity from movies

478
00:27:31,700 --> 00:27:33,300
like this?
No, I don't.

479
00:27:33,500 --> 00:27:36,400
But I think that this is one of
those movies where even if you

480
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:41,200
don't know every detail of the
timeline of Queen, you can kind

481
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,600
of tell something's off like
they did such a shoddy job with

482
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:49,700
it, that you can kind of tell
their fudging, you know, the

483
00:27:49,700 --> 00:27:52,400
facts of the matter.
But Bob it's okay because

484
00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:57,200
because they play Queen music
and we all love that and I will

485
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,300
say, The best part about
watching this movie was the fact

486
00:28:00,300 --> 00:28:03,200
that man, I got to listen to
some good Queen songs and I

487
00:28:03,208 --> 00:28:04,800
liked that.
Yeah.

488
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,800
I think the best part of the, I
think the best part of the movie

489
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:13,800
is just being able to watch
along and hear those songs as as

490
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,500
they're played during the movie.
We can get into Rami Malek

491
00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:23,600
performance later on, but yeah,
I agree with you Brad.

492
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,300
Like that's, that's really the
highlight of this movie and

493
00:28:26,300 --> 00:28:29,900
probably why It was so popular.
Yeah.

494
00:28:29,900 --> 00:28:33,100
But which also kind of begs the
question like why don't we just

495
00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:36,100
listen to a queen album instead
of watching smoothie?

496
00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:40,400
Well, I think that the highlight
of this episode might not be the

497
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,500
movie but I've given this thing
a few noses.

498
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,900
I think this old Overholt 114,
may just be the best part of

499
00:28:47,908 --> 00:28:49,800
this episode.
What say you guys, let's get

500
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,500
into it.
Let's do it for sure.

501
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:38,100
Alright, so today we are
checking out old Overholt 114.

502
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,700
Now Brad, I don't know if you
remember this, but old Overholt

503
00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:44,700
was one of the first I'd say six
to ten Whiskey's we ever tried

504
00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:49,300
on this podcast.
It is a staple of bars across

505
00:29:49,300 --> 00:29:52,200
America.
It is the well Rye for a lot.

506
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,100
A lot of bars.
We actually had the 80 proof

507
00:29:55,100 --> 00:29:57,700
version in season one.
We've never gotten around to

508
00:29:57,700 --> 00:30:00,400
trying the 100-proof, the bonded
version, which a lot of people

509
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,300
really, really liked.
This is a bottom shelf.

510
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,700
Picture from the Jim Beam
Corporation beam suntory.

511
00:30:06,700 --> 00:30:11,400
And now what they've decided to
do, Jim beam's kind of expanding

512
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,700
their portfolio, like across the
board and they took this brand

513
00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:16,300
old Overholt.
They said we're going to kind of

514
00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:19,300
inject it with some new life.
And so the the regular old

515
00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:23,200
Overholt has been upgraded to
have a 3-year age statement on

516
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,200
it now.
And I've seen some people online

517
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,400
talking about how they can taste
the difference even in that,

518
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,800
that standard 80 proof version,
but they also decided they were

519
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,200
going to add a couple different
Expressions to the old.

520
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,000
Whole brand.
And the first one that they've

521
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,100
come out with is this old
Overholt 114, which is, you

522
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:41,700
know, something that Jim Beam
likes to do.

523
00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:45,800
If you remember a couple months
ago we tried old Granddad 114.

524
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,700
That's also a Jim Beam product
later this year.

525
00:30:48,700 --> 00:30:51,700
They're planning on coming out
with an old Overholt. 11-year

526
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:54,000
age statement and that one's
actually going to be pretty

527
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,900
pricey compared to this.
But from what I can tell online,

528
00:30:57,900 --> 00:31:01,700
I thought this was going to be a
nationwide release and Jim Beam

529
00:31:01,700 --> 00:31:05,000
has only made this available.
In Ohio, and Pennsylvania.

530
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:07,700
And I think maybe Kentucky, but
I'm not sure on that.

531
00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:10,700
So this has been a very Regional
release.

532
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,800
We're lucky enough to get it
here in Ohio, guys.

533
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,600
I mean, Brad, you remember
anything about the old Overholt

534
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,700
that we drank, you know, almost
two years ago now, honestly?

535
00:31:19,700 --> 00:31:22,700
Bob, I don't, I think that early
on.

536
00:31:22,700 --> 00:31:24,900
It was one of those rise where I
was kind of like, huh.

537
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,200
Riser interesting.
I might like these.

538
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:33,300
And now here I am a few years
later and I really love Rai but

539
00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:36,700
Don't remember a ton from the 80
proof way back in the day, Bob

540
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:38,300
Chris.
What's your history?

541
00:31:38,300 --> 00:31:44,900
Been like with old Overholt so
I'm a huge Jim Beam fan there.

542
00:31:44,900 --> 00:31:48,900
I don't hide that in any way.
In fact, I celebrate that

543
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:56,100
something about Jim Beam
products just matches my palette

544
00:31:56,900 --> 00:32:02,700
pretty much perfectly for me.
They pretty much can't do any

545
00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:06,800
wrong.
And so I like I like the old

546
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,100
Overholt line and in fact they
kind of started an overhaul of

547
00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:16,800
this a couple of years ago with
the with the 100 proof.

548
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,500
I think the it's bottled in
bond.

549
00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:23,600
I think that one came out and
2018 and that was sort of like

550
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:29,200
the first kind of reimagining of
this brand taking the 80-proof

551
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,700
upping it to 100 Proof, they
they did.

552
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,300
I'm chill filtering to it so
they didn't they didn't chill

553
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:42,300
filter and then after that they
released an 86 proof that was

554
00:32:42,300 --> 00:32:47,400
non chill filtered and that's
going to I think it has replaced

555
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,100
the 80 proof.
So the 80 proof is is going to

556
00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:54,300
be no more.
And so the bottom level of the

557
00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:59,100
old Overholt lineup will be that
86 proof non she'll filtered.

558
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,500
Then you have the 100 Proof And
then now you have this, this,

559
00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:11,300
this 114 and I truly find it to
be a really excellent product.

560
00:33:11,300 --> 00:33:16,100
And this is like Jim bleep, Jim
Beam, like flexing their muscle

561
00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:23,100
showing, like what they are able
to do and I can just imagine

562
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:27,500
what what the 11 year is going
to be like it's just one of

563
00:33:27,508 --> 00:33:29,700
those Whiskey's that kind of has
changed.

564
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:34,700
I think has kind of changed the
The game for Rye Whiskey,

565
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,900
especially at this price point,
when Jim Beam comes out and they

566
00:33:38,900 --> 00:33:44,200
deliver a 114 proof Rye for
2999.

567
00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:48,800
That's a major major Flex.
Oh, I totally agree.

568
00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:51,800
And I can getting a sense of
where Chris might go with his

569
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:56,300
scores on this, but before we
get into drinking it, I just

570
00:33:56,300 --> 00:33:59,000
want to say what I remember
about bowled over hold.

571
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,400
And what I find to be true with
this 114 is that Really good

572
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,400
Gateway into R.
I like it's not super Rye, heavy

573
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,400
on the nose on the taste on the
finish.

574
00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:10,600
It doesn't have that sort of
souring effect.

575
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,800
You don't get this right?
The either the dill pickle that

576
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,000
you get with some rye or the
mint that you get with other

577
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,600
Rise.
It's very, it's a very Bourbon

578
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,699
irae and it's really subtle and
its really soft.

579
00:34:21,699 --> 00:34:25,300
It's great for a mixer.
It's great to try, you know, on

580
00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:28,199
the rocks or neat, if you're not
a huge ride Drinker and that's

581
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:32,100
what I loved about the 80 proof.
So let's see if they can Kind of

582
00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:34,699
capture that same magic here
with the 114, guys.

583
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,400
Brad, what are you picking up on
the nose?

584
00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:40,300
Well Bob while you're talking
for 97 minutes, I had a little

585
00:34:40,300 --> 00:34:43,800
bit of time to come up with what
I wanted to say and I think I

586
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:51,800
nailed it this to me smells like
a Nutty cream soda and it is.

587
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,400
I love that tacular.
Yeah, I definitely get some of

588
00:34:54,408 --> 00:34:58,400
those like, almost like a cola
kind of sent to this and I feel

589
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,200
like that notes been coming up a
lot in our last few weeks, Brad,

590
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,400
but it's There's that really
great.

591
00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:08,100
Oh shoot, what's that?
I can't even place the bananas

592
00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:09,700
fast and he'll stop peanut
butter.

593
00:35:09,700 --> 00:35:11,800
Is that really great?
Almost like root beer?

594
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,300
Sarsaparilla kind of note going
on in here, but it is undercut

595
00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:20,100
with some of that like, raw Rye
grain so it's got some spice to

596
00:35:20,100 --> 00:35:22,200
it as well.
I think that's a really great

597
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,300
note that you're getting on the
nose there, Brad.

598
00:35:24,500 --> 00:35:27,700
Oh man.
Thanks Bob, let's be honest

599
00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:30,100
though, Chris is the real expert
here?

600
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,400
So let's let's Here.
Chris.

601
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,800
What are you getting on the
nose?

602
00:35:33,900 --> 00:35:35,800
No.
I totally agree with.

603
00:35:35,900 --> 00:35:39,500
With both of you.
Like I get I get all of those

604
00:35:39,500 --> 00:35:41,200
notes that you guys are talking
about.

605
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,800
There is a, there's a nuttiness
that is always present for me

606
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,000
and Jim Beam and it's usually
it's usually peanut.

607
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:53,000
But in this it's not it's not a
in-your-face, kind of peanut

608
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,000
note.
It's a nuttiness.

609
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,500
I don't know if I can put my
finger on the exact type of nut

610
00:35:59,700 --> 00:36:04,700
but there's a nuttiness to it.
There is A bit of like a sweet

611
00:36:04,700 --> 00:36:08,300
marshmallow kind of note to it.
And I totally agree with the

612
00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:13,700
like Sarsaparilla type of and
like root beer type of Aroma.

613
00:36:13,700 --> 00:36:17,600
Coming off of this.
It's, it's a great nose.

614
00:36:17,700 --> 00:36:19,400
All right guys, so what do you
say?

615
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,300
Let's quantify it here.
What would your score Beyond

616
00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:23,900
these?
I'm sitting at an eight and a

617
00:36:23,908 --> 00:36:25,100
half Bob.
Wow.

618
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,200
This is a really, really great
nose and I will say it's hard

619
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,700
for me to ever give nose like a
nine.

620
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,000
Or above because I haven't
tasted yet and I'm like a little

621
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,900
bit nervous that I've been
betrayed and it's going to be

622
00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:42,700
like a three on the taste.
So I usually, I, it's hard for

623
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:45,900
me to give a very high score on
knows, but eight and a half is

624
00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:47,500
about the highest.
I usually go.

625
00:36:48,300 --> 00:36:52,000
Yeah, this, the nose on this is
its exceptional.

626
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:57,100
I, I would give this a nine on
the nose, it really has some

627
00:36:57,100 --> 00:37:00,500
really interesting things
happening and as it sits in the

628
00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:03,400
glass, like More Aroma is kind
of develop.

629
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,200
It's it's really nice.
Yeah guys, I agree with what

630
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,800
you're saying.
It's just not really like

631
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,900
knocking my socks off.
I think it's a really Pleasant

632
00:37:10,900 --> 00:37:13,400
knows.
It's not super complex, it's

633
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,600
definitely inoffensive and I
think that's really in line with

634
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,300
the old Overholt brand in
general.

635
00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:20,300
I'm gonna give it a seven and a
half on the nose.

636
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:23,600
I like it but it's just not, you
know, it's not exceptional to

637
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,000
me.
And as you guys go ahead and

638
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,400
give this a sip, one thing that
I will say is that when we tried

639
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,300
the old, Granddad 114 a couple
It's ago.

640
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,300
Our biggest criticism of the old
Granddad brand.

641
00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:37,300
Is that for us?
It felt like they were just

642
00:37:37,300 --> 00:37:40,900
dumping, you know, grain alcohol
on top of the 80 proof.

643
00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:44,400
It just got more and more harsh
and alcoholic as we went.

644
00:37:44,700 --> 00:37:47,100
And so my fear with this is like
they're going to do the same

645
00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:49,000
thing to over.
Hold so guys what are you

646
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,000
thinking of this as you take a
sip is it is it just 80 proof

647
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,300
with a bunch of alcohol added to
it and no more flavor or have

648
00:37:56,300 --> 00:37:59,300
they kind of found the correct
balance as they up the proof

649
00:37:59,300 --> 00:38:04,000
here man.
There is A beautiful nuttiness,

650
00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:05,000
right?
As it hits.

651
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,700
The tip of your tongue.
It's an it.

652
00:38:06,700 --> 00:38:08,300
Like you said Chris, you were
totally right.

653
00:38:08,300 --> 00:38:11,700
It's not a peanut or like a
peanut butter nuttiness.

654
00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:15,400
I don't know if it'd almost be
like a cashew or a pecan or

655
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,300
something like that.
But it leads into this like

656
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,300
really great sourdough bread,
kind of in the middle of the

657
00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:27,700
palette that I am really, really
enjoying and it for me, it's

658
00:38:27,700 --> 00:38:30,000
ours a little bit near the end,
right?

659
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,100
As I'm starting to finish.
But overall, this is a really

660
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:36,400
nice.
Nice palette.

661
00:38:36,700 --> 00:38:41,000
Yeah, this is, this is, like I
said, when we were talking about

662
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,600
the nose and just kind of
introducing this, I feel like

663
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,600
this is a game changer for Rye,
Whiskey.

664
00:38:48,300 --> 00:38:53,500
The pallet for me is just again
that root beer comes back like

665
00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:58,100
with a force on on the palate.
You know, you kind of get that

666
00:38:58,100 --> 00:39:00,300
Sarsaparilla that root beer on
the nose.

667
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:05,700
That's the thing that Out to me
on this like this deep rich root

668
00:39:05,700 --> 00:39:08,400
beer /, Sarsaparilla kind of
flavor.

669
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,700
There's some there's a little
bit of pine Enos to for me on

670
00:39:12,700 --> 00:39:16,300
the pallet on this.
The nuttiness is certainly

671
00:39:16,300 --> 00:39:20,600
there.
It has a lot going on even like

672
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,700
Brad.
You had mentioned like a

673
00:39:23,700 --> 00:39:26,600
Sourdough.
I get like that.

674
00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:31,600
That sort of, I get like a
graham cracker out of this.

675
00:39:31,700 --> 00:39:36,900
It's so similar type of like
bready type of flavor on this

676
00:39:36,900 --> 00:39:39,900
and a really.
I feel like this has a really

677
00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:44,200
rich kind of oily mouth, feel to
it as well.

678
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,900
And I think that can be
attributed to the non chill

679
00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:51,200
filtering of this product.
But the palate on this is just

680
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:57,300
really wonderful to me and it
certainly does not drink.

681
00:39:57,300 --> 00:40:01,700
Like like I it's a rye whiskey,
it has, it has some spice to it.

682
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:06,900
But I think this is something
that is certainly approachable

683
00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:10,900
for someone who prefers bourbon.
Yeah, it's definitely in that

684
00:40:10,900 --> 00:40:12,700
realm of like a bourbon
drinkers, right?

685
00:40:12,700 --> 00:40:14,900
I completely agree.
Actually, if you had just put

686
00:40:14,900 --> 00:40:17,700
this down in front of me and
asked me to drink a blind, I'm

687
00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:20,800
not entirely sure that I'd be
able to identify it as a rye.

688
00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:24,000
I'd be really interested to see
the mash bill here because I

689
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,700
have a feeling that there's a
ton of corn in this as well and

690
00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:29,800
it may it may be just barely
over the line into being awry.

691
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,700
I don't think Jim Beam has
disclosed the mash bill of this,

692
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,100
but I do agree with you guys
that it drinks way smoother.

693
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,800
I expected it to be much much
hotter than this at 114 proof.

694
00:40:41,900 --> 00:40:45,200
I would never have been able to
tell this was 114 proof.

695
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,000
If you had just asked me to kind
of give some tasting notes on

696
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,900
it.
It's a very sweet Rye.

697
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,500
I don't get a lot of like raw
Rye grain out of this.

698
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,700
Most of the notes you guys are
getting I am as well there's a

699
00:40:56,700 --> 00:40:59,900
little bit of heat but I feel
like they just improved upon

700
00:40:59,900 --> 00:41:03,000
what the 80-proof did so well.
I'm going to give this an 8 out

701
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,200
of 10 on the taste.
Yeah, Bob, this flavor is really

702
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,700
really nice.
Its pleasant it's not

703
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:12,600
overwhelming.
I wouldn't call the most complex

704
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,700
whiskey that we've had, but it's
really, really good.

705
00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:20,700
I'm going to give it an 8 out of
10 on the flavor and I think

706
00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:25,100
the, the palette on this is
really interesting, and as you

707
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:29,000
let it sit in the glass, I
recommend like pouring this

708
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:34,100
nosing it drinking it and and NG
it kind of sit there and develop

709
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:37,600
a little bit in the glass
because some some more stuff

710
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,900
does start to come out.
This one.

711
00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:43,800
I have to I got to stay with a 9
on on the palette.

712
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:49,600
This is this is a really
impressive release to me and a

713
00:41:49,607 --> 00:41:51,500
huge.
I said it before.

714
00:41:51,500 --> 00:41:55,100
I feel like this is a huge Flex
by by Jim Beam.

715
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,700
Alright guys, so we're going to
hit the lightning round here

716
00:41:57,700 --> 00:42:00,200
because we are running way
behind on this segment but in

717
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,500
terms of finish it's not an
Harsh finish.

718
00:42:02,500 --> 00:42:04,700
It's a nice warming sensation on
the way down.

719
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,900
I don't get like an excessive
Kentucky hug.

720
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,100
It's definitely way of milder
than the old Granddad 114 on the

721
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:13,100
finish.
I think it works really, really

722
00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:15,000
well for the proof point.
They're trying to go for.

723
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,700
I'm gonna give it an eight and a
half on the Finish.

724
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,600
Yeah, Bob it's really beautiful
finish little bit sour for me.

725
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,000
I'll give it a seven and a half
the finish on this for me, it's

726
00:42:25,100 --> 00:42:29,300
I feel like it's a pleasantly
long finish, it's not doesn't

727
00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:31,500
hang around forever but it's got
some nice.

728
00:42:31,700 --> 00:42:34,400
Flavor to it, some honey, some
cinnamon.

729
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:39,800
I give some Citrus on it, I will
give the finish on this an

730
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,400
eight, all right?
And that takes us to overall

731
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,500
balance.
This is nose taste and finished

732
00:42:44,500 --> 00:42:46,900
put together, I think this is
really where this whiskey

733
00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:50,500
shines.
It's a really solid rye, whiskey

734
00:42:50,500 --> 00:42:52,600
across the board.
For me.

735
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,500
It's like the romantic comedy of
Whiskey's, like, you're never

736
00:42:56,500 --> 00:42:59,200
really going to get a 10 out of
10 with this whiskey.

737
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,500
It's never really meant to blow
anybody away.

738
00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:05,200
But it does everything so well.
And it's so darn Charming that.

739
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,100
I think I'm actually going to
give this a nine out of ten on

740
00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:10,500
the balance.
Yeah, I'm right there with you.

741
00:43:10,508 --> 00:43:13,800
Bob, this is an eight and a half
on balance, for me, you can't

742
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,200
ask for much more.
It's not, you know, the craziest

743
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,500
whiskey we've ever had, but it
just performs.

744
00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:22,800
So well in every Avenue I
really, really love this stuff.

745
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,700
I'm with you guys on this.
It's, I feel like it's got a

746
00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:29,000
really, really nice balance to
it.

747
00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:32,700
I'm an eight and a half.
Out of 10 on this.

748
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,400
All right, and that takes us to
overall value.

749
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,100
Now again, we apologize that
many of you will not have this

750
00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:40,500
available in your state.
Typically we try to keep

751
00:43:40,500 --> 00:43:43,800
Regional releases to a bonus
episode, but you know, at the

752
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,900
end of the day, I'm really glad
they release this in Ohio

753
00:43:45,900 --> 00:43:48,400
because I was able to just walk
into my local liquor store and

754
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:53,100
pick it up for 2999 guys.
I don't think there is another

755
00:43:53,300 --> 00:43:57,300
another Whiskey on the market.
At this proof point that even

756
00:43:57,300 --> 00:44:00,300
competes price-wise.
The only one is old Granddad and

757
00:44:00,300 --> 00:44:03,400
that's a bourbon.
I mean, like you're really just

758
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,600
pitting Jim Beam product against
Jim Beam product and if those

759
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,700
are the only two products at
this proof point and at this

760
00:44:09,700 --> 00:44:13,600
price point, I think this one
blows old Granddad 114 out of

761
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,300
the water.
I'm going to give this an eight

762
00:44:15,300 --> 00:44:17,300
and a half out of ten on value
Bob.

763
00:44:17,300 --> 00:44:19,100
I'm going to give it a 9 and a
half out of ten.

764
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,800
I would buy this any day of the
week for $30.

765
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,700
That is a spectacular value.
Now I will say the only reason

766
00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:30,300
I'm not giving it a 10 is
because of the limited

767
00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:32,600
distribution.
Which Which, you know, hopefully

768
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,400
they'll fix in the upcoming
months or years or so.

769
00:44:35,900 --> 00:44:38,500
But for now it's a nine and a
half, I think this is a

770
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,700
spectacular value for what
you're getting.

771
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,500
I might agree with Brad here,
which is shocking listening to

772
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,900
the previous film and whiskey
podcast Brad and I typically

773
00:44:50,900 --> 00:44:52,900
don't agree.
Sorry, Brad.

774
00:44:52,900 --> 00:44:55,300
Hey that's all right.
Is it on the whiskey or on the

775
00:44:55,308 --> 00:44:59,500
movies?
Little bit of just everything.

776
00:45:00,100 --> 00:45:03,200
Mostly everything.
I'm just kidding.

777
00:45:04,700 --> 00:45:08,400
I agree the value on this is is
outstanding.

778
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,200
I don't think it can get a 10
because 10 would have to be

779
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,200
something just a ridiculous low
price.

780
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,400
But I would, I would go nine
point five out of ten on value

781
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,600
of this.
It's just, there's really not

782
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,500
much out there that can compete
with this on value.

783
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,700
See Chris, we just needed to get
you here on the podcast with me

784
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,800
for you to understand my charm.
Alright guys, so that is

785
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,600
bringing me out to a 41.5 out of
50.

786
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,900
This is, this is getting pretty
high score here, guys, what are

787
00:45:39,900 --> 00:45:44,800
you coming out to 42?
Wow, I'm at if I did my math

788
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:49,700
correct I believe I'm at a 43.5.
My God is one and Chris knows

789
00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:52,300
whiskey way better than we do.
So guys take his recommendation

790
00:45:52,300 --> 00:45:56,200
on this one, if you average out
Brad and my score, we are coming

791
00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:01,100
out to an 83.5 or a 40 1.75 out
of 50.

792
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,600
I would highly recommend this
guy's.

793
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,800
Is it, is it like the most
complex chewable kind of whiskey

794
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:12,100
that you want to sip on all day?
Not so much but it's just really

795
00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:15,900
solid at everything that it does
it hit ticks every box.

796
00:46:16,100 --> 00:46:19,300
And for me, that makes it an
absolute no-brainer of a

797
00:46:19,308 --> 00:46:21,700
recommendation.
Yeah, go out and buy it.

798
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,900
If you have friends in Ohio, the
can buy it for you, pay them for

799
00:46:24,900 --> 00:46:27,700
the shipping and it is well
worth your time.

800
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,600
Absolutely, I agree with that.
100%.

801
00:46:30,700 --> 00:46:34,600
I've Done that myself.
I've reached out to friends to

802
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,100
find this this bottle for me
it's going to be in Pennsylvania

803
00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:42,900
as well.
I do hear that there may be a

804
00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:46,900
national release on this.
There has been a label that has

805
00:46:46,900 --> 00:46:50,000
been approved.
That is a national release

806
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,600
label.
I don't know if that's actually

807
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,400
going to come to fruition but
potentially you could see this

808
00:46:55,500 --> 00:46:58,600
across the country.
Well if you do make sure to pick

809
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,600
up a bottle.
But guys what do you say?

810
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,100
We get back into town.
Talking about Bohemian Rhapsody.

811
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,500
All right guys.
Well that was old Overholt 114

812
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,600
be looking for that Nationwide
distribution because man oh man,

813
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,700
it is a heck of a rye whiskey
but as we get back into Bohemian

814
00:47:49,700 --> 00:47:53,200
Rhapsody or bow wrap, as we
lovingly like to call it here on

815
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,400
the film whiskey podcast, we're
just going to be honest with

816
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,300
you.
We don't like this movie.

817
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,000
It doesn't seem like Chris likes
it Bob and I don't like it.

818
00:48:03,100 --> 00:48:07,700
There's a lot of problems with
it, but in the end I I think,

819
00:48:07,700 --> 00:48:09,300
you know, why?
We don't like it.

820
00:48:09,700 --> 00:48:12,800
I just want to hear let's go
through really quickly.

821
00:48:13,500 --> 00:48:15,800
What did we actually liked about
this movie?

822
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,900
Was there any like one scene or
character or, you know, was

823
00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:23,200
there anything, you know, a
certain shot that you really

824
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,500
just loved?
What were some things that we

825
00:48:25,500 --> 00:48:26,800
liked?
Out this movie.

826
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,300
Well, yeah, I think that, that
definitely Rami Malik's

827
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:35,800
performance is is, certainly
worth noting.

828
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,000
He's the best thing about the
movie.

829
00:48:38,700 --> 00:48:44,800
He doesn't really, really well.
I actually don't know, all the

830
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:50,100
actors that were up for best
actor in 2018, or, whenever this

831
00:48:50,300 --> 00:48:52,200
I think is came out in 2018.
I don't know.

832
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,100
Everyone that was up for best
actor.

833
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:55,800
I don't know that his
performance.

834
00:48:55,900 --> 00:48:59,800
Formance was?
Worthy of that award.

835
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,800
I'd have to see who else was in
in the running for that.

836
00:49:04,300 --> 00:49:07,600
It was the best thing about this
movie though by far.

837
00:49:08,900 --> 00:49:14,000
He did it really well display,
despite the the cartoonish teeth

838
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:20,800
he had had to wear and I do
think that overall, the best

839
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,700
scene of the movie, obviously,
to me was the Live Aid

840
00:49:24,700 --> 00:49:30,700
performance, but that was more
of just like, eh A parroting of

841
00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:35,200
what actually occurred.
You know, it was almost like a

842
00:49:36,500 --> 00:49:39,300
Scene for scene.
Like, if you watch those two

843
00:49:39,300 --> 00:49:42,600
performances next to each other,
they actual live performance

844
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,900
that actually happened.
And then what happened in the

845
00:49:44,900 --> 00:49:46,900
movie?
They're really close.

846
00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:52,100
I I've watched both and and Rami
Malek does an incredible job of,

847
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,700
you know, re-enacting, Freddie
Mercury's performance, which was

848
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,000
absolutely incredible.
That's by far, the best part of

849
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:04,100
the movie Rami, Malik's.
The best part of the movie and

850
00:50:04,300 --> 00:50:07,700
pretty much the rest of it.
It is not that great.

851
00:50:07,700 --> 00:50:10,500
Yeah, totally agree.
I mean, and, and either with

852
00:50:10,500 --> 00:50:13,700
Rami Malek, I don't feel like he
got a chance to really shine in

853
00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:17,600
a in this performance until
probably 2/3 or 3/4 of the way

854
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,100
through the movie.
The first time, I noticed that

855
00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:23,300
the acting was actually picking
up was that scene in the back of

856
00:50:23,300 --> 00:50:27,000
the limo, where he fires their
manager and is kind of getting

857
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,700
manipulated by, you know, his
lover at the time.

858
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,000
Because that was the first time
the movie ever, really took a

859
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,800
breath and paused for a minute
and had a full Dean of dialogue

860
00:50:36,900 --> 00:50:40,700
and I thought that, that Malik
really nailed that moment.

861
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,500
And he did the same thing when
he revealed to the band that he

862
00:50:43,500 --> 00:50:45,700
had AIDS, which was a really
contrived.

863
00:50:45,700 --> 00:50:49,600
And, and not, not really
well-written scene, but I think

864
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,000
when they give him a chance to
actually get to tap into the

865
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,300
emotion of the scene to display
a little bit of emotion on his

866
00:50:56,300 --> 00:50:59,700
face, to take a pause and
they're not just cutting away

867
00:50:59,700 --> 00:51:03,300
from him every two seconds, he
really does shine in this movie.

868
00:51:03,900 --> 00:51:07,900
I don't have time to be there.
Victim that aids poster.

869
00:51:07,900 --> 00:51:12,600
Boy that cautionary, tale.
No, I decide who I am.

870
00:51:14,500 --> 00:51:16,800
I'm going to be what I was born
to be.

871
00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:22,300
A performer.
Who gives the people what they

872
00:51:22,300 --> 00:51:25,800
want for a long time I was
wondering like is Rami Malek

873
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,300
really that good of an actor
like I thought that movie was

874
00:51:28,300 --> 00:51:32,300
terrible and re-watching it.
Now I realized that I think the

875
00:51:32,300 --> 00:51:36,600
he gave a good performance in
spite of almost everything else

876
00:51:36,700 --> 00:51:39,800
on this film set conspiring
against him giving a good

877
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,700
performance.
Yeah guys, I would agree with

878
00:51:42,700 --> 00:51:45,100
you.
I think Rami Malek has the

879
00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:49,600
potential to be good in this
movie and the scene that really

880
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,800
showed that to me.
It was when he proposed to marry

881
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,100
you know Bob like you said when
he is in the car with his agent,

882
00:51:56,100 --> 00:51:59,600
that's one of the few scenes of
the movie that the camera just

883
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,500
settles down.
The the lighting is muted.

884
00:52:03,500 --> 00:52:08,000
You, you let Freddie just be
Freddy and I think the time when

885
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,000
he proposes to marries a similar
scene where he actually gets to

886
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,400
talk to her for a minute and
profess his love for her, and

887
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,100
you get to see him be cute with
her.

888
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,700
That was one of the few scenes
in the movie that I thought was

889
00:52:20,700 --> 00:52:24,300
Shotwell the lines weren't
horrendous.

890
00:52:24,700 --> 00:52:28,800
I actually really enjoyed that
scene of the film, not much

891
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,700
else.
But yeah, that was a good one

892
00:52:30,700 --> 00:52:32,700
for me.
All right, so before we leave

893
00:52:32,700 --> 00:52:36,000
Brad, I can't go on any further
without getting a couple more

894
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,300
things about this movie, that I
just really hate it off my

895
00:52:38,300 --> 00:52:40,700
chest.
But before I launch into a

896
00:52:40,707 --> 00:52:45,500
tirade, any burning things in
your mind, Chris or Brad, that

897
00:52:45,500 --> 00:52:48,800
just really irked you about this
movie that you got to get off

898
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,600
your chest before we stop
recording today.

899
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:55,300
For me, it's just that if you're
going to do a movie about this,

900
00:52:55,300 --> 00:53:01,900
incredible rock band that has
this place in history of rock,

901
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:07,300
that there needs to be a little
bit more of an exploration of

902
00:53:07,900 --> 00:53:10,600
how they created, what they
created.

903
00:53:10,700 --> 00:53:18,700
And this movie basically gives
you nothing in that aspect of of

904
00:53:18,700 --> 00:53:21,200
the band.
Well, and I think that It to

905
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,500
really help you understand why
how they created, what they

906
00:53:24,500 --> 00:53:27,200
created.
You just need to dive more

907
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,900
deeply, into the characters of
the movie, like, we need to get

908
00:53:30,900 --> 00:53:34,700
into the nitty-gritty of all
four band members, not just

909
00:53:34,700 --> 00:53:37,600
Freddy.
And unfortunately, I think this

910
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,500
was cast as a Freddie Mercury
biopic and I think it might have

911
00:53:41,500 --> 00:53:45,100
been better as a queen biopic.
I completely agree bread.

912
00:53:45,100 --> 00:53:48,600
Yeah, to dive into the lives of
all four band members, you know,

913
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,200
maybe with a focus on Freddie
and He experienced the four of

914
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,800
them but you could have done so
much more and honestly the final

915
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:01,100
thing that I'm going to leave
you guys with is that Queen is

916
00:54:01,100 --> 00:54:05,100
probably up there is probably my
top three or four bands of all

917
00:54:05,100 --> 00:54:08,400
time.
But this biopic makes me so

918
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,800
nervous for the day when they
come out with a movie about my

919
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,300
favorite band of all time the
Beatles.

920
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,500
Yeah.
Like if they give this kind of

921
00:54:18,500 --> 00:54:24,600
treatment to the memory of What
happened in the 1960s with John

922
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:29,600
Paul, George and Ringo?
I will just be.

923
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,700
I don't know.
I might just quit the podcast.

924
00:54:32,700 --> 00:54:36,800
I might just seclude myself for
months, if they messed up the

925
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,300
Beatles, I would be so.
So angry.

926
00:54:39,300 --> 00:54:41,500
Yeah, and so, that's kind of
what I want to leave everybody

927
00:54:41,500 --> 00:54:43,500
with here today.
You know, like, I know,

928
00:54:43,500 --> 00:54:48,200
sometimes that I can come across
like a really snooty movie snob

929
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,600
and I get that.
It's because you don't worry.

930
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,300
Ty am the worst.
But here's, here's the thing,

931
00:54:53,300 --> 00:54:57,400
with this film in particular,
brat, like, If you're out there

932
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,200
and you watch this movie and you
enjoyed it.

933
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,300
Like, I want you to honestly
think about what it was about

934
00:55:02,300 --> 00:55:06,000
this movie that made you enjoy.
It, was it just the fact that

935
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,400
you got to see somebody recreate
Live Aid?

936
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,800
Because if that's the case, why
not just go watch the live Aid

937
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,700
performance, the real one on
YouTube.

938
00:55:13,700 --> 00:55:15,800
It's 20 minutes long and it's
fantastic.

939
00:55:16,100 --> 00:55:18,000
If it's just hearing these
songs.

940
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,500
Again, just turn on a queen
album.

941
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,600
The thing for me with this movie
guys, is like the script is one

942
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,700
of the worst.
Pick scripts I've ever ever seen

943
00:55:28,700 --> 00:55:32,600
before, to the point where like
I was laughing out loud at

944
00:55:32,700 --> 00:55:36,600
unintentionally funny stuff and
you guys might think I'm

945
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,800
terrible for this.
But this sequence where Freddy

946
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,100
goes to the clinic and gets
diagnosed with AIDS, which

947
00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:44,900
should be Far.
And Away the most dramatic,

948
00:55:44,900 --> 00:55:48,600
emotional moment of the movie
like he's in this weird space

949
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,000
that's designed to look like
look like a church.

950
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,100
He gets diagnosed with AIDS and
as he's walking out there's

951
00:55:55,100 --> 00:55:58,300
another AIDS.
Who sees him walk by and like

952
00:55:58,500 --> 00:56:01,300
the script, has that guy not
say, like, hey, it's Freddie

953
00:56:01,300 --> 00:56:05,600
Mercury.
They have him go hail and

954
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:09,100
Freddie Mercury without turning
around has a dramatic, pause,

955
00:56:09,100 --> 00:56:13,300
and just goes.
Oh, and that's the whole scene

956
00:56:13,500 --> 00:56:16,400
and I was like, what on Earth
did?

957
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,400
I just would like, is that
really how you are choosing to

958
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,200
portray Freddie Mercury's, you
know.

959
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,200
Solidarity with the victims of
this terrible disease.

960
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:31,800
In the late 1980s, they just
missed every single opportunity

961
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,400
to give this movie real
emotional weight and heft the

962
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,300
dialogue is terrible.
You know, when Freddie Mercury

963
00:56:38,300 --> 00:56:41,600
is standing out in the rain for
five minutes and going on and on

964
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,400
about fruit flies and then tells
the guy fly off fly off.

965
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:50,500
You little fruit fly.
Like it's just, it's so so bad.

966
00:56:50,500 --> 00:56:54,800
I have an entire list of quotes
that I hated from this movie and

967
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,200
I'm not even going to go into
them.

968
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,300
Em.
But there's just so many

969
00:56:58,300 --> 00:57:00,700
moments.
It was just, it's ridiculous.

970
00:57:00,700 --> 00:57:05,100
It's a ridiculous film guys.
And you can love, Freddie,

971
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:07,700
Mercury, and you can love Queen
like I do.

972
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:12,500
And still admit, this is just a
poorly made movie, guys, I don't

973
00:57:12,500 --> 00:57:16,400
know if you have as much as much
hate for it as I do, but I think

974
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,600
once a movie, you know, not only
gross is as much as this film

975
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,900
did but then becomes one of the
five to ten movies in a year

976
00:57:24,100 --> 00:57:25,800
that are nominated for Best
Picture.

977
00:57:26,300 --> 00:57:28,900
You know, 30 40 years from now,
and people are looking back on

978
00:57:28,900 --> 00:57:32,600
the year. 2018, one of the first
places, they'll go to find out

979
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,000
what were the best movies is,
what was nominated for best

980
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:40,400
picture and I can't for the life
of me, understand how this movie

981
00:57:40,700 --> 00:57:44,700
more than any other one.
So many awards and captured the

982
00:57:44,700 --> 00:57:48,200
heart of a Nation when we have
so many better examples of a

983
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,800
musical biopic to choose from.
And so, you know, I'm that note

984
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,400
guys, I guess we should move
into our final scores You know,

985
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,400
for me, like I said, the Live
Aid performance really brought

986
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,400
this up a peg.
I was, I was sitting at about a

987
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,500
three for a while, but there was
some really great technical

988
00:58:03,500 --> 00:58:06,900
Mastery in the last 15 minutes
of this movie that I think makes

989
00:58:06,900 --> 00:58:08,900
it like a three and a half to a
for.

990
00:58:08,900 --> 00:58:12,700
I'm gonna give it a three and a
half out of ten like it's just

991
00:58:12,700 --> 00:58:16,500
not a well-made movie, there are
parts of it that are worthwhile.

992
00:58:16,500 --> 00:58:20,500
But overall, I just cannot
recommend this film Bob's.

993
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:26,400
Sometimes I look at the score
that I I gave Eternal Sunshine

994
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,400
and I must have been in just the
most crotchety mood.

995
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,700
It sounds like about two out of
ten.

996
00:58:32,700 --> 00:58:35,100
Yeah.
I'm about to give this movie a

997
00:58:35,107 --> 00:58:43,700
higher score than internal
definitely disagree with

998
00:58:45,100 --> 00:58:49,000
big-time Bob, I'm with you on
the Eternal Eternal Sunshine.

999
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:55,700
That's a good movie.
I am never going to Retract my

1000
00:58:55,700 --> 00:59:00,400
position on that movie but I
will say Eternal Sunshine of the

1001
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,200
Spotless.
Mind is a better movie than

1002
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,700
Bohemian Rhapsody.
So regardless of that, that

1003
00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:08,600
statement, I'm going to give Bo
wrap a two and a half out of

1004
00:59:08,607 --> 00:59:11,500
ten.
It's kind of a bad movie.

1005
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,700
I don't know.
Bob, Chris, this movie made a

1006
00:59:16,700 --> 00:59:24,300
billion dollars.
Wow, honestly, I'm I'm so with

1007
00:59:24,300 --> 00:59:25,400
you guys.
On this.

1008
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:30,800
This is especially as we as
we've talked about it and as we,

1009
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,600
you know, you guys break things
down.

1010
00:59:34,900 --> 00:59:40,800
This is just a bad bad movie,
it's just it's really not worth

1011
00:59:41,100 --> 00:59:43,900
the two hours and 15 minutes of
your time.

1012
00:59:45,900 --> 00:59:48,300
I'm with you.
I'm a three and a half on this.

1013
00:59:48,300 --> 00:59:54,900
And that's basically, because of
the last 15 to 20 minutes of

1014
00:59:54,900 --> 00:59:58,700
this movie, which is just
parroting the Live Aid

1015
00:59:59,300 --> 01:00:04,500
performance that that Queen did
and and a slight nod.

1016
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:10,100
To Rami Malek, making what he
could out of what he was given

1017
01:00:10,500 --> 01:00:14,200
and his portrayal of Freddie
Mercury.

1018
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:19,600
I would like to see him actually
play Freddie Mercury in a real

1019
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,800
movie about the band with a real
deal, real movie.

1020
01:00:22,900 --> 01:00:25,700
Yeah and it resembles me about
the band and with a real

1021
01:00:25,700 --> 01:00:30,500
director and it's just it is
really bad.

1022
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,500
Well.
Alright, so you guys hear what

1023
01:00:32,500 --> 01:00:34,700
we think about the movie Brad
and I are coming out to an

1024
01:00:34,700 --> 01:00:37,000
average of a 3 out of 10 on this
movie.

1025
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,700
Brad, I have a feeling, there
are people in our audience

1026
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,900
knowing what this movie grossed
that really loved this movie.

1027
01:00:42,900 --> 01:00:46,900
And so, if you are like really
angry with us and you're gonna,

1028
01:00:46,900 --> 01:00:49,500
you know, light into me for
being a snob, I want to hear

1029
01:00:49,500 --> 01:00:53,500
why, what is it about this film
that so captured your

1030
01:00:53,500 --> 01:00:56,400
imagination, if you listen to
this whole episode and you go

1031
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,900
back and watch it and you find
out that maybe your opinions

1032
01:00:58,900 --> 01:01:02,700
changed and you're in our camp,
let us know you can reach out to

1033
01:01:02,700 --> 01:01:06,800
us on social media on Facebook
Twitter or Instagram at film

1034
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,100
whiskey.
If you guys want to give us a

1035
01:01:09,107 --> 01:01:11,100
phone call, our number is two
one.

1036
01:01:11,100 --> 01:01:13,800
Six eight hundred 5923 once
again.

1037
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,100
That number is two one, six
eight hundred five nine, two

1038
01:01:17,100 --> 01:01:20,200
three or you can leave us a
voicemail on our web page which

1039
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,600
is anchored on FM / film
whiskey.

1040
01:01:23,900 --> 01:01:26,500
Once again we want to say thank
you so much to our friend, Chris

1041
01:01:26,500 --> 01:01:29,800
Blattner for joining us.
Chris it has been just a delight

1042
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:34,600
to have you here guys, this has
been seriously one of the The

1043
01:01:34,607 --> 01:01:40,200
funnest podcasts I've ever done.
I really like how you guys get

1044
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:45,400
into a movie and and get into
the details and and really make

1045
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,800
people think about what they're
watching.

1046
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:53,500
So huge huge fan of the show and
thank you so much for having me

1047
01:01:53,500 --> 01:01:55,900
on.
It's such a pleasure to do this

1048
01:01:55,900 --> 01:01:59,100
with you guys.
Well, next time I promise that

1049
01:01:59,100 --> 01:02:02,100
we will bring you on for a movie
that you love so that we can

1050
01:02:02,100 --> 01:02:04,900
kind of balance out the
emotional weight that You had to

1051
01:02:04,900 --> 01:02:07,900
carry here today?
Cheers.

1052
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,100
All right, guys, that has been
Bohemian Rhapsody.

1053
01:02:10,100 --> 01:02:13,600
Next week, we will be back with
the movie that you have chosen

1054
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,300
as your listener, special
Straight Outta Compton.

1055
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,500
So join us for that next week
for the film and whiskey

1056
01:02:20,500 --> 01:02:24,000
podcast.
I'm Bob book, I'm Reggie and

1057
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:24,900
we'll see you next time.