André Hueston Mack: My Favorite Movie

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on today's film and whiskey, we
are hanging out with the one and

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only Andre Houston Mac.
You might know him from his

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YouTube videos, with bone
Appetit, which have amassed

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hundreds of millions of views.
Or maybe you've dined in one of

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his many restaurants, we're
going to talk with Andre about

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his history as a Somali a as
well as his favorite movie.

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That's all ahead on film and
whiskey.

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Hey everybody.
Welcome into the film and

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whiskey pod.
Cast.

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I'm Bob book, I'm Reggie and
we're coming at you with another

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special bonus episode.
Bonus episode, Brad.

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You know, I don't often Pat us
on the back, but I gotta say

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these bonus episodes, man.
We've been, we've kind of been

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killing it, you know.
Tell her really, really good.

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We've had some incredible
interviews this season and I

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think we are capping off season
6 with maybe my most anticipated

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guest ever.
Yeah, I was going to say, aye.

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I don't know if we are doing a
great job interviewing but I

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know that our guests have been
killing it lately and I do not

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have any doubt that, that is
going to change tonight, Bob?

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Yeah, no pressure.
He's hanging out in the

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background here, but no pressure
at all.

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Today, we are joined by one of
my very favorite people to go

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down the YouTube rabbit hole
with and that is Somalia and

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entrepreneur.
Andre Houston.

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Mac, Andre, how are you today?
Yay, I'm doing great, man, I'm

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doing great.
I'm excited.

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That's some whiskey you know
gonna chat it up with you guys

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and talk about movies man man I
like the the timing of this is

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the most fortuitous thing I've
ever experienced in my life

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because you know I've been
watching your videos.

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Bone Appetit has using this
incredible series of videos with

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you that have seen, tremendous
success.

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And the whole season of our
show, I've been like man, I

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really want to get this guy on
the show.

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He he gets what we're about when
we review whiskies.

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We judge on five categories and
it's you know, like your

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standard taste And categories.
And then we throw in a fifth

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category which is value.
Like is it worth the money?

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And I'm like, I'm watching you
put dollar bills down next to a

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bottle of wine and measure out
how much it costs and I'm like

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this guy gets it.
Yeah, I literally said right

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before we got on, I was like
when I'm watching his video and

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I see a 25 and three ones next
to a bottle of wine, I'm like I

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know what it feels like to.
You know, slap that on the

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counter to buy a bottle of
whiskey or a bottle of wine like

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You just have such an
approachable way of dealing with

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something that can be, you know,
kind of snooty and pretentious.

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And it's, that's man, you have
friends in US.

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Andre, what the fuck, you think,
you know?

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It's, I don't know.
So, it's funny.

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It is kind of comes naturally in
a way of like, you know, why did

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it already from the outside
looking in is pretty

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pretentious, you know, and I was
at one time on the outside

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looking in and, you know, it
didn't feel.

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A really good.
But like, once you got over that

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hump, you realize that, you
know, everybody was pretty nice,

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right?
You know, there's a, there's a

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few, there's a few that, you
know, a few bad apples.

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But like, other than that, I,
you know, wind to me was that I

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just felt like something
everybody should have.

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And, you know, I spent some time
grew up in Europe.

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I would say go up there, you
know, I lived like three or four

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years there as a child, but wine
was something that we always saw

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on the table.
It was, you know, it was never a

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centerpiece like I mean it
wasn't like like the bottles

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were sitting this thin at a
table and everybody who's

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watching it?
Where's Trina began?

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You know, just wasn't a meal
without without want.

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Yeah.
And I think that was something

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that stuck with me.
It just, it just felt part of

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the, the European like Diet.
Yeah, for sure.

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Well, I mean, I say that the
timing was fortuitous because I

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reached out to your people and I
was like, hey, I'd love to have

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Andre on the show and they're
like, yeah, actually, he has a

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new whiskey that he'd like to
talk about to what are the

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freaking odds, man.
This is incredible and we had

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It's a great, we got sent a
bottle of your rye and Sons,

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which, you know, spoiler alert.
We will get into tasting here in

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a little bit, but it's
phenomenal stuff, man.

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No, and again, at the price
point, like, yeah, Brad, if

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we're scouring this out on the
value category is 10/10 value.

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Yeah.
Easily, I mean, the level of

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quality you're getting with a
2-year Rye for $28, I like you

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said, Bob will get into the
tasting notes later but this Is

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a daggone good whiskey, my
friend.

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Thank you, thank you.
That's, you can sit on the

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point.
Exactly, like, for me, it was to

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over deliver right to like,
like, like rarely do we pay for

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something and feel guilty that
or but what price we paid for

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it, right?
It's generally the other way

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around.
And I think what's really great

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about Ryan son's is like we made
the best possible whiskey that

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we could at the best product,
possible price and I feel like

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the value is there something.
That you can taste it's

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undeniable.
And I you know that's I mean I

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think that was what I really
wanted to contribute to like

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starting this Fierce brand.
Yeah, it is very similar.

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What we've what I've built in
the wine industry is you know,

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building, you know, undervalued
price wines that.

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I think that over-deliver and
that are delicious.

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We are Andre, let's talk a
little bit about that history,

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you know?
I was just watching a video of

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you today to prepare when you
were giving a TED talk and you

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talked about how your first job
was at McDonald's.

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And yeah, and once again, I was
like, this is my people right

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here.
Like tal.

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Tell us a little bit about the
journey from McDonald's, to

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internationally.
Renowned Somalia, it's pretty

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funny.
And remarkable to kind of look

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back on, you know, I'm not a big
Reflections guy.

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Yeah, but yeah, I think my first
job was McDonald's.

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I was 16, I needed.
I needed a job.

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I lived, right?
It was right around the corner

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from my house by Seaworld was
living in Texas.

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And yeah, I was just it was an
interesting thing because I

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actually wanted to work the cash
register and they were like, oh

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no, it was kind of like a weird
felt like a weird sexist thing.

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It was like only the girls who
work the cash register and I had

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to take like rack fries or some
shit like yeah.

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You know what?
I think that's kind of all.

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What I kind of knew was just
like was food and beverage,

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right?
You know, I worked there.

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I you know, I worked at a place
called Jack-in-the-Box.

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Yeah, yeah, I'm with the
ultimate cheeseburger, you know,

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it felt like those jobs were
easy as I was like You know

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getting ready to you know like
in high school and fell in like

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not a big of a commitment.
And then I started working at

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Red Lobster.
Let's just, you know, just you

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know, I think the actress she
had wines on the wine list

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there.
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That's rewinds.
They were all, they were all

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white zinfandel right so who's
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It was pretty, it was pretty
interesting, you know.

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And you know and I worked I
worked at Red Lobster for quite

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some time.
I would probably say about, you

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know, about eight years on and
off, you know, I moved to

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Oklahoma for college, you know,
I Didn't it was interesting

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because like I wasn't, I guess
what?

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I learned from those places, I
would say they weren't really

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great food places and the sense
of where I ended up.

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But you know, it taught me that
like I really like the

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interaction with people.
I think that's my biggest.

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Takeaway when I went on to my
bigger and better thing and, you

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know, I end up working for
citicorp Investment Services,

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the idea of walking up to a
group, a table of strangers and

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getting to know them over the
next 60 minutes and getting

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things from them and you know
what I mean?

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Like, yeah, it was Then about
that that I enjoyed you know and

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I think when I went on to
finance you know it's kind of

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what I meant and I think what
kind of like pulled me back to

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coming back into restaurants.
But I think from I think for me

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I was working in those kind of
jobs and then we went on to my,

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you know, to work in citicorp
Investment Services but You

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know, I started to watch old
episodes of Frazier and the way

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that they talked about wine, I
think was really inspiring to

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me.
I had never won, was never a big

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deal for me.
I think mostly at this point I

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probably drank beer and, you
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blended whiskey, you know, from
like Johnnie Walker applied

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using the one that but it
wasn't, it didn't, you know?

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So like that kind of drinking
didn't have this camaraderie

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around it that it seemed like
wine did and Although Fraser and

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his brother, you know, they were
these top is kind of almost

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characters of themselves and
very snooty there was something

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very funny about it and how they
made fun of themselves that that

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show really gave me the courage
to walk into a wine store for

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the first time in my life.
Mmm, right.

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And I think, you know, I've
always felt like the graded soil

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to pretension is through humor.
And, you know, somehow by

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watching that show I could arm
myself with some type of comedic

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antidote.
That would like somehow protect

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me.
I know it sounds dumb but that's

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what it took for me to get into
a wine store.

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And I think the rest is kind of
history and that sensitive.

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Like I realized that they were
open and that we just we went in

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almost every single like two or
three times a week and talked

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and really, you know what, we
like to call in the wine

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industry, you know, caught the
wind bug, and I think that was

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it for me.
And then I went back to

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restaurants, I heard of this
thing called a sommelier, which

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I had never heard of.
And my mom was like, so, what

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you do baby?
What's it called?

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She's like, you like wine to the
table, like really, you get paid

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to do that, you know, it was
like, it was something like

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that.
And, and that was it, you know

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what, I think, you know, I move
kind of fast.

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I think after, you know, within
18 months of really getting into

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wine, you know, I was, you know,
so sommelier at The French

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Laundry.
Wow, you know at the time was

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considered the best restaurant
in the world.

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So I talked a little bit about
this Ted Talk of yours that I

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was watching earlier today.
And Talked a little bit about

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your first line of wines called
Mouton Noir, which translates to

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Black Sheep, and how you
embraced that role or that title

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of black sheep.
And, you know, we were talking

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right before we press record
about, you know, if I can call

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it your brand like you're just,
you just a super approachable

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guy.
And I think that's that's the

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hook is that no one feels
condescended to when they're

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talking to our learning from
you.

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And I guess my question then is,
like, do you think that your

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ability to keep things
approachable?

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All, even at such a high level
that you're at now.

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Can that be traced back to you
being kind of a wine Outsider or

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Black Sheep?
I think so.

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Yeah.
I think not growing up with it

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and also, like, really
understanding where I come from.

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Yeah, you know, you know, I mean
like, you know, I just recently

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found out.
I turned 15, you know that I was

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in foster care, you know me like
earlier this year like you know

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what I mean?
Like so I don't you know, I

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never came from a place. 50
plates of wine, but it was

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something that, you know,
something that I respected and

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understood.
But also I think I understand

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talking to people and there's a
certain way to talk to people.

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You know what I mean?

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Everybody thinks that it was to

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have like a an ascot on or
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But like that's not it.
I'm a you know, you can be a

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regular guy and appreciate wine
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challenging the status quo in
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I mean it's it's so easy to be

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intimidated.
By what you perceive about

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people.
And yet, when you sit down, if

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you're able to find something
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like, man, it doesn't matter how
much money they make versus what

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you make, what city?
They're from verses where you're

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from like man, if you guys both
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compare notes and enjoy your
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then all of a sudden you're on
an equal playing field and it

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feels like you are just out
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of You know, the world of wine
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Yeah, it's been pretty
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feedback we've gotten out of
like, people, you know, people

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had somebody just traveled from
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restaurant and to bring Bo
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maybe catch a glimpse if I was
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know, like so it's definitely
resonating with people and

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connecting with people.
You know, people who aren't

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really into the wind.
I think someone was like I don't

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even drink but they you know,
they consume the content.

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I think I'm it feels good.
I think I'm pretty fortunate in

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that way that, you know, people
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say there's no trick or anything
like that.

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It's just it's just really just
me.

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Yeah, you know, and I think just
like being, you know, we talked

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a lot about like, you know, but
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sheep.
I think me also just like, you

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know, I think what's most
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And naming my company that was
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place.
Mmm.

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We all felt like an outcast
Misfits at some point in our

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life.
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we all know.
And I think for me, it was like,

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why don't I just Embrace, what
makes me different?

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Yeah.
All right, Andre, you're going

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to get me preaching here in a
second, man.

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Come on, man.
Let's go.

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You know, I mean and I think
like to me that's really true.

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I guess.
Like and in that, Ted Talk what

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I thought was most interesting
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because you, the people in the
crowd, see me.

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They the odd.
Most obvious thing is that I

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look different than most of
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Hmm, but that's not really what
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I mean that's the obvious part,
right?

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The, you know, is that I look
different than most people that

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are in the wind or that were in
that in that room.

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But what embracing embracing
What Makes You Different was

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that also you just embracing who
I am but also like I just don't

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do things the way everybody else
does them are, right?

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And, and also taking on that
moniker allowed me to do Do, do,

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do do things that were
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Like you can't name your
company, the black sheep in like

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be straight-laced like we gotta
do, some interesting stuff.

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And yeah like in and I think
it's really kind of helped me,

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you know, just like kind of
leaned in and say, well, you

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know, there is no blueprint to
this, you know, I don't have a

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great, great, great grandfather,
you know, quote unquote, who

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would be rolling over in his
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If I could you know it?
Because I decide it's like you

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know to like wear this t-shirt
somewhere.

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Yeah.
Well it's speaking of like, you

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know, doing things?
Own way.

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How did the YouTube
opportunities come about?

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Like?
I don't feel like wine somalis

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are often, you know, on YouTube,
just, you know, given their

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thoughts on stuff.
So did you did you know that it

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was going to be a hit when you
started it?

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Did you expect this kind of
reception?

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No, I didn't.
I'd the opportunity.

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I came.
You know, they reached out and

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said, hey, would you like to,
you know, maybe shoot a video?

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It's cute.
And I think, for me, you know,

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I've done a lot of that kind of
stuff, you know, at this point

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and I think I had a commercial
with Microsoft.

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I had a commercial, which, like,
Cadillac also had dabbled and

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done, you know, some stuff in
front of the camera, but this

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was a little different and, you
know, I think I was more worried

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about, like, what kind of
content it was, right?

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You know.
It's like, for me, I think we

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live in a world where, you know,
everything is Savaged and it's

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about to take down.
Yeah, am I think is, like, I

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only want to talk about stuff.
We're talking about.

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Yeah.
And and so I think upon upon

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that they agreed and we, you
know, they said, I sound like a

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three pilot deal and I think
after we aired the first one,

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they offered me a full contract.
Yeah, yeah.

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I mean it's incredible stuff,
man.

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And I think that you really,
obviously if you went into with

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this intention it's succeeding.
Because one of the things I love

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about them is that you're not
savaging.

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The wines that you don't like
like you're finding things.

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In the wine that you do like or
you're picking out notes and

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saying like, oh maybe of this
developed a little bit more, it

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would be really robust.
And I just, I like that.

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There is a way to say hey this
is not for me without saying

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this isn't for anyone.
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Trash like I don't like
everybody's gonna sell, this is

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trashed.
But like, you know, like there

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has to be some type of a
decorum, you know, like you

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know, for most of my training as
a sommelier.

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When you taste wines, there's
there's sales reps that are

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standing in front of you.
Hmm, right?

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And and sometimes The owner or
the winemaker of the wine is

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standing in front of you.
And so you know there's a

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there's a you know I was always
taught talk about the why,

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right?
Like it's all about goes back to

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the mine.
Well you know what this happens

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a little bit too much.
Too much Oak and Oakland

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sauvignon.
Blanc doesn't really work with

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the chef's food.
Hmm.

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You know I mean like so it's
like there's ways of being a do

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that.
I think I just kind of carried

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that over, you know, it's always
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What's interesting to me is like
you film them and then you're in

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an empty room, right?
Okay, you know what I mean?

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So it's like so it's like the
camera guy.

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You like you trying to crack
some jokes and like nobody's

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laughing.
And I'll be here all week,

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right?
You know make sure you tip your

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waitress and snow it's like oh
and then and so the now the

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video comes out and then like
it's still kind of empty in a

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way, right?
Because all you see all I can

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see is the views, hmm right.
And then so it's still not real.

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Right.
I think for me the with a real

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connection is is being out in
the wild and people running into

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people who watch it, right?
Who's actually consume it right?

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Because those numbers aren't
real to me that you see on views

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because I'm thinking to myself,
that was watching this right

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here.
It is, you know you know I was

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at a bar guy walked, he was
grabbing Pizza.

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He was the patron walked past me
and then came back and was like

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Hey you know, he works at him.
A one-star Michelin restaurant

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in Brooklyn, and he's like, I
like your videos have taught me

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so much, he works there.
He's like the industry.

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People are watching it.
What's that, you know what, your

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interesting like, like, that
makes me feel good.

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Like, as, you know what I mean?
Like, and I try and that was

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like, so that's why I try to
keep it professional and and

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that way because like, you know,
not only are like, novice like

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looking at this content, but it
is also being consumed by people

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who are in the industry. and
that feels good to me, you know,

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that like that's the payoff I
think for me is, is like, you

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know, it's touchy world people
in the world I think it's a

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great segue to start talking
about this whiskey because you

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know you've got your hands in
things outside of the wine

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industry.
Now and I guess my first

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question about the whiskey brand
is like why now and and and why

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whiskey, you know you could have
very easily launched, another

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line of wines if you'd like to
but what is it about whiskey

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aside from just hey the markets
exploding that attracted you to

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this?
Yeah, you know I mean and just

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being honest like I felt like I
felt like it was over right now.

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It's like yeah it's like the
market.

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I was like it.
It seems pretty saturated sure.

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Like you know, so I was like
maybe I missed that boat like

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whatever like you know what I
mean?

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Like it wasn't like pie.
I was I was going to Pine over.

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It's just like how the
opportunity came.

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But like I said before, like I
dream you drink whiskey, that

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was kind of that's what I did
before I was even in twine.

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So like being in college you
know I one of the waiters at Red

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Lobster was the bookie or I had
a How to book even really tight

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with a bookie and so he got me
gambling and so, you know we but

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you know I think like
40-something college games, you

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know, of college football on
Saturday almost every single NFL

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game.
Oh and heart it guys.

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Make sure you use Flash like a
1-800 number up here.

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For people who have a gambling
problem.

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Yeah.
Would cover our bases here.

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Exactly.
If you or a loved one, has a

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gambling problem and and so Was
an interesting guy and like I

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think Monday's were paydays,
right?

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So like a Monday night, he would
take us out.

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And when we would go to a bar,
he would walk in and, you know,

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he said, you know, something
like, let me get a Weller's.

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What rock?
Or something like that?

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This night, like, in 1996 95?
Yeah.

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And, you know, I'm like, well,
there's like, we're gonna shit.

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It was that, you know, you know,
you know, like in the bar, the

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barns were spending our site.
We don't have it.

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He's like, all right, we're
getting out of here.

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So then we would leave and then
we would go somewhere else and I

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was thinking Like what old is
this?

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Like what is he had never heard
of.

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Yeah, but it seemed like it was
readily available there and it's

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so funny.
That was kind of like my first

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connection with American whiskey
was was drinking it, you know,

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in Oklahoma and what was so
funny to me is, like now, I

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guess what's now is considered
top shelves, right?

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Almost like even hard to find
that kind of yeah, allocate it.

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But like this guy like that's
all we drank.

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And, you know, I've always
enjoyed Spirits.

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I think what a lot of people
don't know is that Some ways

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most sommeliers are in charge.
It's our job to know anything

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across the spectrum of Beverage.
Hmm.

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So that's not an alcoholic
beverage.

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I ran the bar program, right?
At per se, so I just like,

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knowing Spirits knowing
cocktails that is part of our

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repertoire as a sommelier, it's
not just wine.

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And so, you know, we kind of
always dabbled in that kind of

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thing and the whiskey
opportunity came along, just

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threw a friend.
Actually someone who I had

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worked with that per se, you
know?

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So Saint Joseph's of Pinhook.
One of the cofounders of the

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Pinhook we worked in a
restaurant together.

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Mmm.
And you know and we had remain

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friends.
You know, he opened I think one

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of the first American whiskey
forward restaurants called Char

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number four and me.
And we used to be there all the

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time.
You know, and I kind of watched

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that rise of him opening these
restaurants and then really

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getting into whiskey and then
taking a leap and saying, hey,

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you know, we should start
Whiskey company and you know,

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that's creating pain, fuck.
And so, over the last ten years,

444
00:22:22,100 --> 00:22:24,500
it's been in a really
interesting to see that bar and

445
00:22:24,500 --> 00:22:26,500
grill.
You know, ads, I'm out doing

446
00:22:26,500 --> 00:22:29,900
Market work, you know, all
across the United States.

447
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,800
You know, walking into stores
and bars, you know, seeing

448
00:22:33,900 --> 00:22:36,500
seeing it there, you know?
And so we've always been friends

449
00:22:36,500 --> 00:22:39,100
and we'd like, to just would
like shooting the he's like,

450
00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:42,000
hey, you know, we're doing a
collaboration series, you know,

451
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,100
we've always had this winemakers
approach, you know, because

452
00:22:44,100 --> 00:22:48,400
Shawn was in some way.
Two whiskey and he sits a man.

453
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,700
Like if you're up for it like
you know, you seem like the

454
00:22:50,700 --> 00:22:53,200
perfect candidate and I was
like, oh yeah well what the

455
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,300
hell?
Like it's early 2021.

456
00:22:55,300 --> 00:22:57,900
I think we New York City had
just shut back down because the

457
00:22:57,900 --> 00:23:00,300
Cove it.
And I was like, yeah, Jordan.

458
00:23:00,300 --> 00:23:03,000
He's like I have 10.
Barrels of ten-year-old, Wyoming

459
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,100
whiskey.
And he came by the office.

460
00:23:05,100 --> 00:23:08,100
And, you know, we blend it for
about six or seven hours and

461
00:23:08,300 --> 00:23:09,500
shot.
The shit was pretty fun.

462
00:23:09,500 --> 00:23:11,800
And I think, you know, me and,
you know, really coming up with

463
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,700
something that, you know, we
both felt comfortable with and

464
00:23:14,700 --> 00:23:18,500
then fast forward, we released
Those bottles and and I think

465
00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:20,900
all I got was like a whole bunch
of nasty emails from people.

466
00:23:20,900 --> 00:23:25,200
I had never met before, right?
They were like hot wrong.

467
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,900
They're like, I didn't like to
do those.

468
00:23:26,900 --> 00:23:29,900
I didn't know that I had to buy
your wine in order for us to get

469
00:23:29,900 --> 00:23:32,700
a bottle of whiskey because I
don't even know who you are.

470
00:23:32,700 --> 00:23:35,000
I don't even know like what
you're watching is but if I

471
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,000
would have known I would have
bought it was like all these

472
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,300
angry people and I'm like, Sean,
like hey man.

473
00:23:41,300 --> 00:23:44,100
I like, you know, I don't
understand what's happening

474
00:23:44,300 --> 00:23:45,800
like, all these people were mad
at me.

475
00:23:45,900 --> 00:23:48,700
Me, like, I don't even know
these people and he says, oh no,

476
00:23:48,700 --> 00:23:49,600
he goes.
It's okay.

477
00:23:50,100 --> 00:23:50,600
I go.
What do you mean?

478
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:51,500
It's okay.
He's like, no, no.

479
00:23:51,508 --> 00:23:53,100
Everything is going according to
plan.

480
00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:56,400
I go, when he goes, he goes
because in this business because

481
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,300
you're not doing it right?
If somebody's not mad at you.

482
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,500
This is kind of how it works and
and, and, you know, it was, it

483
00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:07,800
was fun.
It was fun to like, to plan to

484
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,400
kind of do that thing and like
to see it out in the wild in

485
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,300
like really great.
And the fact that people were

486
00:24:12,300 --> 00:24:15,200
enjoying it.
I think the gray Market got out

487
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,200
the hand a little bit.
I mean I don't I wouldn't say I

488
00:24:17,208 --> 00:24:18,700
don't know.
Yeah I mean I think got a man

489
00:24:18,700 --> 00:24:21,600
but sure you know I think now
bottles are somewhere around six

490
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,000
seven hundred dollars if you can
find them right?

491
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,900
But you know Sean and I were
talking and we were just like

492
00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:32,100
hey man when it just be cool
like to do it again.

493
00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:34,800
Let's run it back.
Yeah but like this time let's do

494
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:35,900
it.
Let's do a different.

495
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,700
They don't be like let's run it
back and like let's do something

496
00:24:38,700 --> 00:24:42,200
that's more readily available at
kind of more my style and I've

497
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,800
always been a fan of rye and you
know, ride was in America.

498
00:24:45,900 --> 00:24:48,600
Has first Spirit you know you
know I mean it's like it's kind

499
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,100
of the underdog and I think what
if most people understood that

500
00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:55,700
they probably should be drinking
ride young anyway instead of

501
00:24:55,700 --> 00:24:57,400
bourbon, right?
You're like in that in that

502
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,300
sense of like be more accessible
and I was like I always tell

503
00:25:00,300 --> 00:25:03,600
people is like most Cabernet
drinkers are probably should be

504
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,000
Soraka drinkers, right?
Because it's exactly what they

505
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,100
want and they can't sell Sera
right now.

506
00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:11,900
So what you're getting and Sarah
is an amazing value of what you

507
00:25:11,908 --> 00:25:14,500
would get for cabining.
But Rai is something that spoke

508
00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:18,000
to me and you know, John were
canoodling and you know and

509
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,600
trying to figure out like oh if
we had to explain you know that

510
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,600
you know how it's like wine.
You know what I Cabernet bourbon

511
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,900
is like Cabernet.
It's made from corn sweet so

512
00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:30,700
it's Rich it's round it's ripe.
So think like more like Napa

513
00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:35,000
Cabernet and then Rai has like,
you know, has that spice but

514
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,700
like it has complexity to it.
It's a little bit leaner, right?

515
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,700
It changes and evolves in the
glass very much like peanut

516
00:25:41,700 --> 00:25:44,800
wine.
And and so for me, that was

517
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,300
something that I wanted to go.
Gravitate to and that was that I

518
00:25:48,308 --> 00:25:50,700
think we hit the ground running
with the idea and it's and it's

519
00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:53,100
like hey like this would just be
really fun.

520
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,700
And and in the end you know it's
like wow like every time I taste

521
00:25:57,700 --> 00:26:01,400
it I end up drinking a whole
bottle not by myself, right?

522
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,800
But it's you know, it's
something that's really easy

523
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:08,400
drinking that I think, you know,
that's a little bit different if

524
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,300
you look at the mash Bill
compared to most rise out there

525
00:26:11,300 --> 00:26:15,000
which I think are, you know,
9010 I think here.

526
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,800
What's different is You know,
it's, you know, 60 2020 and that

527
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,600
last 20 be Carly and I think
that's really really what makes

528
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,000
it bright.
And that's what I that's what I

529
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,700
really enjoyed her.
That feels like more of a

530
00:26:27,700 --> 00:26:32,500
refreshing thing to me than like
something like big and Vanilli,

531
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,200
you know, that kind of thing and
and Sandalwood.

532
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,600
So yeah, we've been and I think
it really, you know, people

533
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,100
drink it, you know, take a
couple steps and, you know,

534
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:45,100
their eyes aren't really light
up but they're like, oh, this is

535
00:26:45,100 --> 00:26:46,500
great.
And then when they see the

536
00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:51,900
price, their eyes light up.
Yeah, yes 100%.

537
00:26:51,900 --> 00:26:55,900
And I just have to say Andre, I
have been preaching the gospel

538
00:26:55,900 --> 00:27:01,600
of Rye since nearly damn near
day one on this pot and what

539
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,700
literally my friend the other
day said he was over drinking a

540
00:27:05,708 --> 00:27:10,900
little bit and I gave him your
Ryan sons and he looked at me

541
00:27:10,900 --> 00:27:14,900
and he goes Dammit Brad.
Are you turning me into arrived

542
00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:17,700
guy?
And I was like that's right I am

543
00:27:19,900 --> 00:27:23,200
every now and then every now and
then we have Whiskey's on this

544
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,000
show that, you know I like to
refer to as almost like gateway

545
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,500
drugs.
This is a gateway rye and I say

546
00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:31,500
that in that, you know, I'm a
guy who leans more towards

547
00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:33,600
bourbon than Rye, Brad likes
Rye, a little bit more than

548
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,700
bourbon.
You know?

549
00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:38,900
If it all is going to wash out
and the notes on this are

550
00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:41,600
reminiscent enough of bourbon,
that I think, if you're trying

551
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,200
to dip your toe, To Rye, it's
perfect for you.

552
00:27:44,500 --> 00:27:46,800
But then it also brings that
like you're talking about that

553
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,500
big bold complexity.
There's tons of pepper on this.

554
00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:54,700
Like it has everything you want
in a rye, but it also is just

555
00:27:54,700 --> 00:27:58,100
like it has these big Open Arms
that's like bourbon drinkers.

556
00:27:58,100 --> 00:28:00,000
You will find rest and Solace
here.

557
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,100
Like it's just, it's a wonderful
Gateway, right?

558
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:04,400
Yeah.
I hope so.

559
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,100
Like, I think, you know, I was
trying to explain the other day.

560
00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:10,100
It's like for new whiskey
drinkers, I feel like it's a big

561
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,800
bear hug, but, you know, it's
like, Come on in.

562
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,400
And, you know, this is something
a little bit different but like

563
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,200
that gets you started like you
might stay here at the station

564
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,700
but you might get on the train
and go all the way to Bourbon

565
00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:24,400
Ville, right?
You know, and for, and, for like

566
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,900
the season that's behind the bar
or season drinkers, like, you

567
00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:30,400
know, you got like, your secret
dap and handshake, right?

568
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,200
And everybody's like, you know,
like you know what I mean?

569
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,000
Like this is like, this is
great.

570
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,000
I feel you on this, right?
Like like, you know, and that's

571
00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:40,800
that to me, like feels great.
Like I feel like that it like

572
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,100
straddles the line and I think
You know, when we thought about

573
00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:47,200
package Dean and that kind of
stuff to me, it just felt like,

574
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,800
you know, let's, let's be more
fun and, you know, black and

575
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,900
white and something totally
different than like the old kind

576
00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:57,900
of what I call I call it.
Like Manila, like all it.

577
00:28:57,900 --> 00:29:01,000
Like no one uses white.
They use like old Nick from?

578
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,300
Yeah.
It looks like like Miller kind

579
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:06,600
of thing and so yeah, we just
wanted to do something that like

580
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,200
felt different and intakes,
right?

581
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,000
Like I don't know.
I feel like to talk about

582
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,800
packaging.
Being like sometimes, you know,

583
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,900
people said that at that really
takes away from the art, I don't

584
00:29:17,900 --> 00:29:18,500
write.
I think.

585
00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:21,400
Like there's generally something
about packaging that I think

586
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,300
that resonates with people.
Did you design the artwork for

587
00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:26,800
this?
I did not again, we worked, we

588
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:31,100
worked with an artist Chris that
the people at Pinhook, like put

589
00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:32,400
me onto and I thought was really
great.

590
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,600
He did these extraordinary very
detailed drawings with a pencil

591
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,200
that if you look up close,
you're like, wow, that kind of

592
00:29:39,208 --> 00:29:41,900
looks like a black-and-white
photograph and so there's lots

593
00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:44,700
of detail.
And a sprig of rye and you know,

594
00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:47,700
and then there's a cartoon hand
there, you know, to me, it's

595
00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:50,200
like, you know, it's like I'm
not taking, you know, what's

596
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,900
really serious about this is the
right?

597
00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:55,700
That's where you see the detail.
You know the cartoon hand is to

598
00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:58,900
me is more about just, you know,
having fun, you know, like

599
00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:03,400
holding onto my trying to hold
on to my youth rightful and a

600
00:30:03,408 --> 00:30:06,800
cartoon hand could be anybody.
You know what I mean?

601
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,400
Like it kind of anybody reaching
for this bottle of Rye, correct.

602
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,300
Well, I region, I think it's
thought was the thought was my

603
00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:19,400
kid, but I think we can't say
it's child's hand seven-year-old

604
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,700
reaching for the bottle of Rye.
All right?

605
00:30:22,700 --> 00:30:23,700
Brad.
I'm gonna put you in me on the

606
00:30:23,708 --> 00:30:25,900
spot here a little bit.
We've got this poured out in

607
00:30:25,900 --> 00:30:27,200
front of us.
I do want to give some quick

608
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,700
tasting notes on it because it
is just stellar.

609
00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:32,400
And, you know, we've got the man
himself here to just judge us

610
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,000
harshly as we do it.
But, you know, the great thing

611
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,500
about this is when I first
popped the cork, I immediately

612
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:39,100
poured it into my Glencairn
here.

613
00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:42,000
The first note that I took on
it, on the nose, which is bright

614
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,900
it Did me and brights.
Usually a word that we reserve

615
00:30:44,900 --> 00:30:47,100
for like Irish whiskey.
It means something.

616
00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:49,700
It's what we normally get.
When we talk about getting melon

617
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,800
on the nose and I got quite a
bit of like cantaloupe a little

618
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,600
bit of Pineapple on the nose
with this took my first sip that

619
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,300
was all there was a real
Pleasant sweetness real caramely

620
00:30:59,300 --> 00:31:02,700
on the palate into some of that
black pepper I sat down for

621
00:31:02,700 --> 00:31:06,300
about 10 minutes Brad and I came
back to it and the nose had

622
00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:10,000
really transformed for me away
from some of that melon into a

623
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,300
lot of those more classic
American bourbon.

624
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,300
Denotes there was a lot of brown
sugar, there was a lot of

625
00:31:15,300 --> 00:31:17,800
caramel on this.
I love that this was kind of a

626
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,300
shape shifter in the glass.
Yeah, for me on the nose I felt

627
00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:27,200
like it was almost like like a
buttery frosting on top of like

628
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,800
an almond cake.
Hmm.

629
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:33,600
That just it was a little bit
nutty with all sorts of Rich,

630
00:31:33,700 --> 00:31:36,700
you know, creamy butter.
And then yeah, there there's

631
00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:39,000
some hints of orange.
I got a little bit of like a

632
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,700
peppermint on the nose that like
this, this Those was so rich and

633
00:31:43,700 --> 00:31:47,000
Bayard and I had not looked at
the price point, the first time

634
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,700
I, you know, drink this.
And I was just like, oh my gosh,

635
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:55,600
this is like, this is some
really great whiskey, just right

636
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,700
off the bat with the nose.
Yeah.

637
00:31:57,700 --> 00:32:01,000
And then I find that the more I
come back to it, like, I hate to

638
00:32:01,008 --> 00:32:03,400
keep saying classic American
notes, because that's really

639
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,600
explain anything, but I'm
getting green apple on it now.

640
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,800
Like it just, it continues to
have this perfect balance of

641
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:14,300
tart and sweet on the nose.
And it's evolved on the palate

642
00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:16,600
as well.
Brad like we drink a lot of

643
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,700
Whiskey's on this podcast.
Obviously there are some that

644
00:32:19,700 --> 00:32:21,900
definitely punch above their
weight class.

645
00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:25,900
So to speak when their price yet
at a certain price point when I

646
00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:29,800
saw that, this is $28 a bottle,
like I crapped my pants, I'm not

647
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,500
going to lie, this is I.
If you had asked me just point

648
00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:36,600
blank, what do you think this is
priced at I would say like well,

649
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,100
you know, considering who is
blending it and the packaging is

650
00:32:40,108 --> 00:32:42,100
great and like the names that
are attached to it.

651
00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:45,400
This is Probably between fifty
and sixty dollars a bottle at

652
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,200
$28 Brad.
Like I said before, this is a

653
00:32:48,208 --> 00:32:52,800
10/10 value.
Yeah, I mean at like 38 40

654
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:57,500
dollars, this is a solid value
in the Rye World.

655
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,100
Bob how much does this cost
again?

656
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,100
Yeah, that would be a 28
American dollars.

657
00:33:04,100 --> 00:33:10,700
Brett 28 USD Andre.
That's not hats off, man.

658
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,200
It's great.
I'm over here smiling from ear

659
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:19,500
to ear, but, you know, if that
that that's exactly how we

660
00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:21,800
wanted to hit, like it was like
that's those are the first

661
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,600
impressions that we had and it
definitely translates to other

662
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,300
people.
And, and that I think that's

663
00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:30,900
kind of the point.
It's like to make the best

664
00:33:30,900 --> 00:33:33,000
whiskey we can do each year.
We're not, we were not

665
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,900
distillers, right?
So we don't just do, you know,

666
00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:40,000
we like to think of the barrels
that we bring in as our Harvest,

667
00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:42,200
right?
So, this is vintage dated.

668
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,700
Is 2022 and it basically, you
know, extends from, you know,

669
00:33:46,700 --> 00:33:49,500
from pin hooks, winemakers
approached to Wine.

670
00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:54,100
I mean, my makers approach to
Whiskey, and so that's kind of

671
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:56,400
each chair.
We're not chasing a style.

672
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,100
We're just trying to make the,
you know, and that, and I think

673
00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:01,700
in some of that way.
It's like, it's like this, this

674
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,400
I wouldn't call it homogeneous,
but it's this style that like,

675
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,600
that, that will alter key.
I like Walter keep, you know,

676
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:08,900
what I mean?
Just like, every year, it's

677
00:34:08,900 --> 00:34:11,900
exactly the same and I
understand that, but I think

678
00:34:11,900 --> 00:34:14,699
here is a A little different
where, you know, we want to just

679
00:34:14,699 --> 00:34:17,900
make the best whiskey that we
could possibly make each year.

680
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,900
Man, Andre, I feel like we could
spend another hour to three

681
00:34:25,900 --> 00:34:29,699
hours, just talking about
whiskey and wine and all of

682
00:34:29,699 --> 00:34:32,900
these things.
But we are not just the whiskey

683
00:34:32,900 --> 00:34:37,500
podcast where, you know, the
film and whiskey podcast and I

684
00:34:37,500 --> 00:34:41,400
am just so excited to talk about
your favorite movie.

685
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:46,199
Today, can you tell us what you
chose for us to talk about?

686
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,800
Yes, Kingpin.
One of my favorite movies with

687
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,300
Woody Harrelson.
And Randy Quaid it's a bowling

688
00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:56,199
that I'm a huge fan of bowling.
I think most people don't know

689
00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:59,500
that about me, right?
And like, you know, I played I

690
00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:02,800
played Sports other sports, you
know, I played basketball at a

691
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,200
pretty high level.
But most, if most people ask me

692
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,500
if I wasn't doing what I'm doing
now, it'd probably be knocking

693
00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:11,300
down some pins, that's it.
First of all.

694
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,800
So we're about to record a
review of The Big Lebowski in

695
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,500
like a week here.
So this is okay, it's very own

696
00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:22,200
brand for us right now.
But also like, you know, your

697
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,700
assistant send us over the name
of your favorite movie and it

698
00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:26,900
said Kingpin.
And I was like, you know, he's a

699
00:35:26,900 --> 00:35:29,800
really down-to-earth guy, so
maybe it's the Woody Harrelson

700
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,600
movie.
But then I was like, man.

701
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,000
I'm going to feel like an idiot.
If I think it's this bowling

702
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,700
movie and then he's like, no,
this is a very serious, like

703
00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:42,100
cartel drama.
There's like, I'm just so glad

704
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:45,300
to hear that it is.
Kingpin directed by the Farrelly

705
00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:46,900
brothers.
Yes.

706
00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:49,100
You know who helmed Dumb and
Dumber?

707
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:50,500
And There's Something About
Mary.

708
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:55,400
And weirdly green book a couple
years ago where do we have are

709
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,000
very out of character, you know
but what is it about?

710
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,100
Kingpin that keeps you coming
back to it as your favorite

711
00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:06,400
movie?
It's the classic man like I love

712
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,600
bowling.
I mean there's so many

713
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,900
one-liners in that and that
movie and if and to be honest on

714
00:36:10,900 --> 00:36:14,500
the serious tip, like, I'd like
I never liked the first time

715
00:36:14,500 --> 00:36:17,000
I've ever heard of someone being
Amish and what that meant was in

716
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:17,600
that one.
Yeah.

717
00:36:17,700 --> 00:36:20,100
Because Randy Quaid paint, you
know, big things.

718
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,500
The Amish character there that
was like, you know, the bowler.

719
00:36:23,500 --> 00:36:26,300
Yeah, I don't know.
I just like it was a movie about

720
00:36:26,300 --> 00:36:29,400
bowling and I things like you
didn't, there weren't that many.

721
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,300
And I think most Studios this
came out, maybe right around the

722
00:36:32,300 --> 00:36:34,300
same time that the Big Lebowski
came out.

723
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,000
But yeah the humor and you know
it definitely has that dumb and

724
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,500
dumb humor attached to it but
it's a really funny movie and

725
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,300
and you know I'm not sure that
it's aged all that well as focus

726
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,900
on the PC side.
So, you know, you know, I might

727
00:36:49,900 --> 00:36:53,100
I find myself Watching alone,
most of the time, no one else in

728
00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:55,800
the room, you're not going to
understand any tastings where

729
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,000
you guys go watch, Kingpin
afterwards.

730
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,800
We might, we might, I might have
to just, you know, bring up,

731
00:37:03,700 --> 00:37:07,400
bring HR long but you know, but
also I feel like you in that

732
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,100
era, it was in the height of
like movies happened

733
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:11,300
soundtracks.
Yeah.

734
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,000
Right.
Like yeah they don't I don't

735
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,200
think they do that anymore.
At least like you don't even

736
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,700
listen to them on Spotify but
you know like they would have

737
00:37:18,700 --> 00:37:21,500
the Kingpin soundtrack and I
mean, it was like, they had a

738
00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:24,200
lot of the, a lot of the hits
and like memorable music from

739
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,700
that time.
So Blues Traveler, right?

740
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,000
It's like on there, right?
So like, you know, that person

741
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,400
was on there and like, you know,
I mean, it's like, it's, it

742
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,900
takes me back to 1996.
But, you know, I spent a lot of

743
00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:40,400
time on a grown up in the
military at a like bowling, you

744
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,900
know, I think bowling was like
78 cents a game or something

745
00:37:42,900 --> 00:37:46,800
like that, so, but the movie is
just like classic, you know?

746
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,100
We Woody Harrelson big.
Ern McCracken.

747
00:37:49,500 --> 00:37:52,900
Yeah.
Castor the gas, the characters

748
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,600
are just, you know, they were
legendary.

749
00:37:55,700 --> 00:37:57,200
I love it, man.
Great pick.

750
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,600
Yeah, I was going to say, hey,
speaking of bowling.

751
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,100
How many perfect frames have you
bowled?

752
00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:08,100
Three, hundreds, man.
I'm actually pretty decent.

753
00:38:08,300 --> 00:38:11,100
You know, I was telling someone
and the funny thing is kind of

754
00:38:11,100 --> 00:38:14,600
like the drunker I get you know,
in that City the better the

755
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,600
better that?
I mean, I'm that way with pool

756
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,700
and I don't have a drink.
In me I am Judge, but anywhere

757
00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:28,500
from two to five drinks in.
Yeah, I'm putting it on really

758
00:38:28,500 --> 00:38:31,200
like, really like, yeah.
So yeah, yeah.

759
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,700
I mean, I think maybe.
Maybe, five or six?

760
00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:36,900
Perfect Games.
Wow.

761
00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:40,900
Something like that.
Wait, you bowled 5 or 6 foot

762
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,900
table, Dre?
I don't know if, you know this,

763
00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:51,900
it's really, really hard to pull
Bowling a few weeks ago and I

764
00:38:51,900 --> 00:38:56,600
cracked a hundred though.
That's my that's my standard.

765
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,900
I can usually do it but hitting
triple digits, is my statement

766
00:39:00,900 --> 00:39:03,700
for sure?
Yeah I think I think last time I

767
00:39:03,700 --> 00:39:09,100
was probably maybe 29 okay when
I bowled a perfect game but like

768
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:11,800
you know I mean it's so funny
because like is it something you

769
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,100
did like you were in a bowling
league you bold and like that

770
00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:17,500
was it but like you know, you
know how like when a movie comes

771
00:39:17,500 --> 00:39:19,600
out and it's the sport that
you're into or something like

772
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,500
that.
Like, You kind of gravitate to

773
00:39:21,500 --> 00:39:23,400
it.
And, and I think, you know, for

774
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,700
me, it was when I'm, you know,
Bill Bill Murray's went to one

775
00:39:27,700 --> 00:39:29,900
of my favorite character
characters of his.

776
00:39:29,900 --> 00:39:31,700
Yeah.
But follow.

777
00:39:31,700 --> 00:39:33,200
Yeah.
All right.

778
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,500
Before we let you go, Andre,
we've been implementing this

779
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:37,600
thing on the podcast.
When we have interview guests

780
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,700
and is based on the TV show
Inside the Actors Studio with

781
00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:43,700
James Lipton.
I don't know if you're familiar

782
00:39:43,900 --> 00:39:47,000
used to air on Bravo and at the
end of every one of those

783
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,600
episodes, James Lipton would sit
down with the movie star and he

784
00:39:49,607 --> 00:39:51,300
would go through a quick.
Questionnaire that they

785
00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:55,000
developed that we have kind of
shamelessly stolen and adapted

786
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,100
for our purposes here.
We're calling it inside the

787
00:39:58,100 --> 00:40:00,400
whiskey studio.
So we've got about 10 12

788
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,900
questions for you.
Kind of Rapid Fire.

789
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,400
Are you ready for inside the
whiskey Studio?

790
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,000
Yes, I am ready for the inside
of the room studio.

791
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,700
All right.
It's a little longer I know

792
00:40:10,700 --> 00:40:12,200
we're going to kick you off here
with this one.

793
00:40:12,500 --> 00:40:15,200
What is your favorite word and
what is your least?

794
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,900
Favorite word?
Horse seems pretty my favorite

795
00:40:19,900 --> 00:40:24,100
were right about now the third
question was what is your

796
00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:26,200
favorite curse word?
So there's a I got one I have

797
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:32,200
one for that.
What's your least favorite word

798
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,000
is?
I haven't been trained for that

799
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,600
I guess I don't know something
like that.

800
00:40:39,700 --> 00:40:40,900
All right.
Well what's your favorite curse?

801
00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:42,200
Word.
Favorite.

802
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,800
Curse.
Word is probably gone.

803
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,600
Yeah.
Yeah.

804
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:53,000
Now it now is that one word?
Yeah, it's kind of string it all

805
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,100
along.
Okay.

806
00:40:54,100 --> 00:40:59,300
There's like I would say Qualls
that sounds like a very New York

807
00:40:59,300 --> 00:41:00,600
type.
Yeah.

808
00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:03,100
Sounds like you've assimilated
while there.

809
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,900
I've been told that as a New
Yorker I imagine this next one's

810
00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:09,300
going to be near and dear to
your heart.

811
00:41:09,500 --> 00:41:11,900
What sound or noise?
Do you love?

812
00:41:11,900 --> 00:41:13,400
What sound or noise?
Do you hate?

813
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:21,200
Oh Sound annoyed that I love is.
It's like the birds outside are

814
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,900
Wendy like, just like birds in
the morning.

815
00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:25,500
Yeah.
Like, and you can definitely get

816
00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:28,200
still here that in New York,
that's something that that, like

817
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,700
it almost feels that that I'm
not in New York.

818
00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:33,100
Yeah.
And then what comes along is

819
00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:37,500
probably my least favorite thing
is, is the sirens.

820
00:41:37,700 --> 00:41:39,400
Hmm, no.
Yeah.

821
00:41:39,500 --> 00:41:41,400
And actually, it's probably not
even the spider, that's the

822
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,300
horn.
So we live right around the

823
00:41:43,300 --> 00:41:46,200
corner from a fire station and
they kind of roll down on our

824
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,700
block.
For the sirens.

825
00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:49,100
You can kind of like it's all
it.

826
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,300
It feels like I'm not annoyed by
that.

827
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,100
It's the honking of the horn.
Hmm.

828
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,100
Because it seems, it seems
pointless.

829
00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:57,700
Yeah dude.
But yeah right.

830
00:41:57,900 --> 00:42:02,200
I lived in Philly for a year and
I am with you there.

831
00:42:03,300 --> 00:42:04,700
Yeah.
All right.

832
00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:08,200
What profession other than your
own would you like to attempt

833
00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:14,900
bowling?
He's already perfected it.

834
00:42:14,900 --> 00:42:17,900
I mean, yeah, it's an easy
transition this point but we'll

835
00:42:17,900 --> 00:42:19,100
see.
We'll see if I still got it.

836
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,000
It's a role.
I think I'm Christmas.

837
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,900
I think I rolled like, like just
slow to hundreds when you think

838
00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:28,500
about movies books, that you've
read, who are your favorite

839
00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:33,200
fictional Heroes?
Oh wow.

840
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:39,900
I you know I have to say just
most recently Walter White from

841
00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:44,000
breaking from Breaking Bad Man.
Like I think you might've missed

842
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:49,900
the point of the show Andre you
know.

843
00:42:49,900 --> 00:42:53,200
You do.
I yeah he was you know you know

844
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,600
like you take things into your
own it like you know.

845
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,500
Yeah.
Like I felt I felt like you

846
00:42:57,500 --> 00:42:59,600
sure.
Didn't know he was a hero in

847
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:00,500
that.
I think his wife.

848
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,200
I think his wife was considered
the villain.

849
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,600
Actually I just pictured Andre
Watching like the pilot like

850
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,500
episode 1 and being like this
guy.

851
00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:09,300
He's I don't need a watch
anymore.

852
00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:13,800
These a hero.
Well you know it's like what you

853
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,000
can see where he turned like
where he was a good person.

854
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,800
Absolutely.
You know when he like when he

855
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,300
watched oh boys, girl, choke on
over young man and didn't do

856
00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:23,700
anything.
He's changed.

857
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:24,900
Yep.
Right, you know what I mean?

858
00:43:24,900 --> 00:43:27,300
Like, just for he became.
That's where he became hard.

859
00:43:27,300 --> 00:43:31,000
But like you he was always
trying to do good and like on

860
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,100
the path.
But you know, he was a hero and

861
00:43:33,100 --> 00:43:36,700
I think in a in a Worst type of
situation, you know?

862
00:43:36,700 --> 00:43:38,600
Yeah.
All right.

863
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,500
Next up.
If you could have any persons

864
00:43:41,500 --> 00:43:46,000
singing, voice Dead or Alive,
whose voice would you choose?

865
00:43:46,700 --> 00:43:51,500
Wow.
That lets a guy.

866
00:43:51,500 --> 00:43:54,200
My favorite band is, it's been
called City and Colour.

867
00:43:54,500 --> 00:43:56,500
Hmm.
And he used to be part of a

868
00:43:56,500 --> 00:44:01,600
screamer band.
And but like, he doesn't scream

869
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,900
in this, he has like one of the
one of the best forces I've ever

870
00:44:04,900 --> 00:44:09,400
heard like between him and the
weekend.

871
00:44:09,500 --> 00:44:12,800
Oh nice.
But just amazing, it's called

872
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,500
City and Colour.
I got to look at my think.

873
00:44:15,500 --> 00:44:18,900
It seems like it's like Dallas,
he's like He's a Canadian from

874
00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:22,300
Toronto, but we're like, damn,
like been fascinated with his

875
00:44:22,300 --> 00:44:24,600
music.
And if I could ever, if I could

876
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,300
ever have anybody singing
voices, that guys check it out.

877
00:44:27,300 --> 00:44:29,300
Shout out to Dallas as a, yeah.
All right.

878
00:44:29,300 --> 00:44:32,600
I think I got you guys think you
guys would dig it the most the

879
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,000
right, the right answer to that
question.

880
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,100
Was Freddie Mercury, but that's
okay, yeah.

881
00:44:37,900 --> 00:44:40,900
What is a natural gifting that
you don't have that?

882
00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:46,700
You wish you possessed.
Just to be handy like I'm like

883
00:44:46,700 --> 00:44:50,400
I'm not I can't I can't do and I
can't do anything.

884
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,600
I'm not mechanically inclined.
I can't build.

885
00:44:52,700 --> 00:44:54,000
I can't.
I'm like panting.

886
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,000
Somebody $75 an hour to hang a
picture frame.

887
00:44:56,300 --> 00:44:59,600
I'm just hot.
It's not good at that right.

888
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:04,000
Yeah?
Right.

889
00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:14,400
Yeah.
Okay.

890
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,400
Well, let me know if you need a
bordo recommendation, I guess,

891
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:18,200
right?
Yeah.

892
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,400
That's all for your housewarming
party.

893
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,000
Yeah, I remember a mentor of
mine when I was a kid telling

894
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,000
me.
He had just become a homeowner

895
00:45:27,300 --> 00:45:31,900
and he was like, man, becoming a
homeowner is just a process of

896
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,800
realizing that you can't take on
the projects that you already

897
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,300
started, then?
All right.

898
00:45:39,300 --> 00:45:43,900
We got two more for you, polar,
you forgive the dark turn.

899
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,400
Here.
But okay.

900
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:50,800
You had a say in how you died.
How would you like to go out?

901
00:45:52,100 --> 00:45:55,200
Oh man.
All right, let me I got my very

902
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,700
first.
Get a PG thought.

903
00:45:56,700 --> 00:46:00,200
Yeah.
And then I've always been my

904
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,700
example is.
Like, I've always wanted to be

905
00:46:01,700 --> 00:46:04,200
the guy in the cartoon that just
gets the piano dropped on him

906
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,500
because it's like, yeah, it's
like you're done quick.

907
00:46:06,500 --> 00:46:09,100
Yeah, exactly.
It's quick, it's easy.

908
00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:11,900
I would probably say in my
sleep, I think the whole

909
00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:15,400
deathbed thing kind of, you know
what people crowded around here,

910
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,100
that kind of like is weird to me
like, hmm, I go my sleep.

911
00:46:18,100 --> 00:46:21,800
It's, you know, if you know of
things like hiccups like body

912
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,000
jerks and so yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?

913
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,400
Yeah, all right.
Well, the most important

914
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,000
question that we will ask what.
Brad?

915
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,500
Yeah.
Give him a preface for how this

916
00:46:29,500 --> 00:46:33,300
came about.
Well, a while back I don't know

917
00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:39,600
if you, you know, the national
brand sponsor for Cameron

918
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,800
George.
He's an incredible guy, but he

919
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,700
was talking about pairing
Whiskey's with fast food items,

920
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,200
and I just think that, that is
the most fascinating idea.

921
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:58,400
So if you were to pair Ryan Sons
with a fast food item or even

922
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,400
with, you know, a fast-food
restaurant in general, what

923
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:06,100
would you pair it with Ryan's
whiskey to call it?

924
00:47:06,100 --> 00:47:09,000
What if we call it?
We its defects Only known as

925
00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:17,500
yoga mat but it is the McRib.
Oh nice, let's go McRib feeling

926
00:47:17,500 --> 00:47:20,300
fancy, I might like you know
shave it a couple black truffles

927
00:47:20,300 --> 00:47:23,900
on it but there you go.
That is but I'm Ryan Sons

928
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,800
whiskey with the McRib.
I love it bratty.

929
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,000
This is how I know Andre is like
our people.

930
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,900
No hesitation yeah.
Like you can tell the he'd

931
00:47:32,900 --> 00:47:35,900
already prepared that it's like
right there.

932
00:47:35,900 --> 00:47:37,700
I friend of mine.
He's eating a McRib.

933
00:47:37,900 --> 00:47:41,800
Right now, it's actually no
longer available.

934
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,200
I know, I know.
Yeah, no, totally.

935
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,700
I did a whole well, you know,
having a fast food background

936
00:47:49,100 --> 00:47:52,600
and then, you know, we did a
whole episode of pairing wine

937
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:57,100
with fast food and and so it was
something that was like you know

938
00:47:57,100 --> 00:47:58,300
near and dear to my heart and
fun.

939
00:47:58,300 --> 00:48:00,400
Yeah.
But but yeah when I think it

940
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,400
when I think about rhinestones
whiskey and I've had to pair it

941
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,200
with anything like ants down in
the crib.

942
00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:07,500
Yeah yeah.
Andre I cannot thank you enough

943
00:48:07,500 --> 00:48:09,900
for Sitting down with us today.
This has been just an absolute

944
00:48:09,900 --> 00:48:11,600
pleasure.
I mean, you have an open

945
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,400
invitation, anytime you want to
come report on your bowling

946
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,900
progress and he tied, you any
new vintage of Ryan Sons.

947
00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:20,800
We would love to sit down and
talk with you again.

948
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,600
Thank you for joining us now.
Are you kidding me man?

949
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,100
Thank you, man.
I was my pleasure.

950
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,200
All right, everybody, this has
been Andre Houston Mackey,

951
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,400
probably already know him from
YouTube.

952
00:48:29,500 --> 00:48:32,200
And or one of the many
restaurants that heats worker,

953
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,100
his new line of Rye.
Ryan Sons.

954
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:40,500
This vintage 2022 is If you find
it on the Shelf $28, it will be.

955
00:48:40,500 --> 00:48:43,600
One of the best. 28 bucks you've
ever spent Brad.

956
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,200
I don't know if you agree, but I
am.

957
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,900
Oh, I'm gonna go through my
bottle real quickly here.

958
00:48:47,900 --> 00:48:50,600
Yeah, I will be sharing it with
all of my friends.

959
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,500
So yeah, it's like you've read
about whiskey, all right,

960
00:48:53,500 --> 00:48:55,900
everybody, we will be back on
Monday with another regularly

961
00:48:55,900 --> 00:48:59,500
scheduled episode.
But until then I'm Bob book, I'm

962
00:48:59,500 --> 00:49:01,400
Brad G and we'll see you next
time.