All About Eve / Old Ezra 7 Barrel Strength

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In 1950, director Joseph,
mankiewicz and star Betty Davis

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gave the world.
A Cutthroat tale of a

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manipulative young woman
determined to rise to the top in

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2021 Luxe.
Go revives an old brand at

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Barrel proof.
The film is All About Eve.

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The whiskey is old, Ezra
seven-year Barrel strength and

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we'll review them both.
This is the film and wiste

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podcast.
Welcome to the film and whiskey

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podcast, where each week, we
review a classic movie and a

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glass of whiskey.
I'm Bob book, I'm Brad G and

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this week we are looking at the
1950, Best Picture Winner.

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All About Eve.
Nice peachy.

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But I wouldn't worry too much
about your heart.

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You can always put that award
wear your heart on to be Brad.

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We are in the middle of a, kind
of a mini series that we're

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doing here on movies that won
the Oscar for Best Picture in

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the lead-up to this year's
Oscars.

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And we've kind of been all over
the place in terms of

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chronology, so far.
But we are going back to Classic

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Hollywood.
The Golden Age of Hollywood for

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this movie from 1950, and I
guess I'll just kind of asked

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you upfront brat had you any
idea.

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What you were getting into when
you were watching this movie,

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like, I had you heard of it
before.

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I had never heard of the film
all about it.

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You've until I saw it on this
list, you know, it's one of

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those movies again.
I feel like we've hit a few of

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these movies that they're on
like the American Film

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institute's, 100, best movies
ever.

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They're really, really well
regarded by people who know

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classic film but they just
somehow don't really have a

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footprint in modern day.
And, you know, another one that

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comes to mind would be something
like Double Indemnity, which was

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a movie that I don't think.
Heard of either before we did it

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for the podcast and you know
it's probably the most famous

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film Noir ever.
But at the same time, like there

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are certain movies that just
have a lot of currency, still in

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the culture.
Like you talk about Gone With

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the Wind, you talk about Citizen
Kane or Casablanca.

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People know what you're talking
about, even if they've not seen

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the movie, All About Eve is not
one that I would expect a lot of

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our listeners will have seen.
Yeah and honestly Bob I don't

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really blame them like as you
were talking about it its lack

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of a cultural footprint.
Ain't having now seen the movie.

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I think I can kind of understand
why.

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Oh, oh, okay.
Is this a brad G scorching-hot

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take coming in here?
I don't know if the scorching

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hot Tate.
I just think it's a like fairly

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average Phil.
Wow, okay.

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So wow, Brad this this throws
off my entire mental plan for

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how we were going to get through
this episode.

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Okay, I was expecting you to
like this.

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I love to know that my opinion
has such a deep and Lasting.

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Testing effect upon yourself, it
truly does Brad.

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It's what keeps me awake at
night.

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I'm going to stare at my ceiling
tonight.

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And just think how did Brad G
not like All About Eve.

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One of the most universally
beloved films of all time.

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I feel like you'll just go
through a bunch of dream

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sequences of.
All About Eve, just like Eternal

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Sunshine, and it'll just haunt
you forever.

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So, let me say this Brad because
I think that there are some

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movies that I want you to like,
more than others and that's

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fairly obvious.
I feel like I definitely try to

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Draw it out of you more.
This is one of those movies but

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not because it's like a favorite
of mine.

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I really like this movie.
I think it's a great movie.

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I'm probably going to come out
way higher on my score than you

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are obviously at this point.
But at the same time it's I

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think it's because because
people haven't heard of it, I

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think they're less likely to go
out and seek it, and try to

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watch it on their own.
And so, you know, in my mind,

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I'm like, man, if we can come in
here with two really glowing

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reviews of this movie, I think
we might convince more of our

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listeners to go out and Watch
it.

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And now I'm like, Brad doesn't
like it is anyone gonna go watch

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this movie?
Do you know what I mean?

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Oh, 100%.
And like, you know, I'm always a

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fan of the Arts and the theater.
My God, watch the movie.

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If you got an extra two hours
and 18 minutes on your hands, oh

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God.
I'm but if you don't have that

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extra time then you know maybe
go watch a different film.

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Go watch the first 40 percent of
the Snyder cut.

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Yes, exactly.
All right.

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Brad.
Well, now Now, knowing now that

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you don't really care for this
movie, I think we could just

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kind of throw any sort of intro
out the window.

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Let's jump right into America's
favorite segment, Brad explains.

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This is the part of the podcast
where Brad breaks down the movie

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that he has just seen often for
the first time.

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We know that this was the first
time Brad saw this movie and we

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know that we have a treat in
store for us.

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In terms of how he describes a
movie, he did not like Brad.

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As, you know, we have
implemented a 60-second limit on

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Brad explains for this season.
Do you think you can summarize

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this movie in under 60 seconds
and older actress?

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Has her close-knit Circle of
Friends infiltrated by a young

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woman who seems to be sincere
and innocent and unassuming.

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But in reality is a conniving
wolf.

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Trying to steal the older
actresses Spotlight.

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Wow, that took 17 seconds.
That's it, man.

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That's, that's the whole film.
And I knew I knew that entire

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plot about 5 minutes in.
Into this 2 hour and 18 minutes

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film.
Also that's it.

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That's a good point Brad.
So this is a movie that it's a

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Showbiz kind of movie.
It takes place in the theater

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scene of New York.
Betty, Davis plays this older.

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You know, I don't say aging
actress but she's entering her

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40s.
And as we all know, when an

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actress hits 40 years old as
generally, the cutoff point for

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when they stop getting good
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And her name is in the movie as
Margo Channing, she is kind of

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confronted in some way by this
this young upstart aunjanue who

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goes by the name.
Of Eve Harrington and Eve kind

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of ingratiates herself into this
close-knit, circle of important

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theater people in New York and
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the movie, you start to realize
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She is like you said conniving
and gunning for Margo's place in

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the you know, the stratosphere
of actresses in the New York

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theater scene and we know from
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she succeeds at this because
she's up on stage winning.

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An award Eve is And the whole
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Is how did Eve get to the point
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We can assume that she
backstabbed a lot of people and

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then we watch that play out
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I'm interested to hear what you
have to say because you said you

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guessed this about five minutes
into the movie and I can

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understand that in some ways
this seems like a tail that

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we've seen a hundred times
before and I'm just kind of

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wondering like is it because
it's a simple tale and you know

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we do know the Contours of it or
is it because we've seen People

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kind of rip off All About Eve
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Honestly, I feel like it was the
overacting of Anne Baxter.

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That gave it away from me.
Hey, like the the way that she

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plays the innocent unassuming
like honestly dude she reminded

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me of I I do not remember the
actress's name but in Gone With

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the Wind who played the Virgin
Mary character?

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Oh, don't don't throw my girl.
Olivia de Havilland under the

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bus.
Come on man.

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No, like Olivia de Havilland is
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I felt like Anne Baxter was
trying to imitate her.

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Oh sure, sure, just be this
perfect.

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Like nothing is wrong with me.
I'm only here for your good and

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I just want to serve you and
take care of you and it just was

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so over-the-top.
And you know, maybe that was the

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script.
Maybe it was her acting

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performance.
I don't know, but it was so

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obvious so quickly that she was
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Out and care for Betty.
Davis is character that I was

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like, oh yeah, she's just trying
to steal the Limelight and once

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again, you said it like they
made it obvious by the fact that

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she has the Limelight at the
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And so mind that though, like I
actually like I like what movie

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start out with that where you
kind of know the ending and the

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the tale of the movie isn't
about the plot so much as it is

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about watching these kind of
characters lives.

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You know, fall apart around the,
I mean, I found that super

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entertaining you Because they
gave away the ending, didn't

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take away from my enjoyment of
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I think the struggle then is
because I agree with you, I

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don't mind that they kind of
give away the ending.

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And I think a lot of really
great movies do that.

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I think my struggle then is, I
don't give a rip about anybody

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in this movie, like, like Betty
Davis is fine.

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I kind of enjoyed her
relationship with Bill a little

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bit, but there was no single
relationship in this movie that

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I really cared about.
And this movie really is all

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about relationships about how
Everybody interacts with Betty

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Davis, and with Anne Baxter and
I just think most of the

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characters are flat and
uninteresting.

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And so and so I struggle to care
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okay?
I can respect that.

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You think the characters are
flat and an interesting?

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I do think that one thing that I
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and I don't know, once they
warned, but, like, going into

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this movie, you know, this is a
movie about, I guess, for lack

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of a better word, like
highfalutin people.

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It's a kind of Bourgeois world
that we're living in watching

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these theater people in New York
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cultural theater critics and
newspaper.

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People all backstabbing each
other and the way that they

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speak, it's a very affected
manner of speaking.

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Like you can tell that all the
characters in this movie are

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delivering dialogue.
And you know, sometimes I have a

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problem with that, I don't so
much with this script because

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the word play and the the quotes
you get out of these characters,

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You are just so good.
And so, like, deliciously, evil

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at points that I really love
this script, but I do think that

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you have to go in understanding.
Like this is not going to be

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realistic sounding dialogue.
They're speaking words off of a

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page and I feel like for me, at
least, once I kind of got around

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to that idea, I enjoyed it a lot
more Z and and that didn't

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bother me at all.
Like I guess I'm just used to

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older films and the fact that a
lot of older films Is the actors

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in it just don't sound the same.
You know, you have these

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transatlantic accents and you
have these high, like you said,

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highfalutin snobby, writers.
Like Addison DeWitt is this

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snobby writer and so I look at
it and I just it's not even the

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way they talked it.
I just didn't find any of the

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characters, all that interesting
like Betty Davis is the only

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person who is slightly
interesting but even she kind of

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goes History, Onyx halfway
through the movie about this

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girl and the way that she over
plays so many different things

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just gets old after a while.
All right, I'm sure in the end,

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they're all happy and you know,
they're getting married and she

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kind of triumphs in the end /
Eve.

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But was it worth it?
I had.

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Oh, no, I feel like you're you
understand the point of this

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movie really?
Well, you just didn't enjoy the

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ride of watching it.
Yeah. 100 percent.

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All right.
And again, like sometimes we run

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into that like you know, I did
not, I will never really be on

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board with the movie 2001.
It is one of the probably ten,

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most revered movies, ever made
by any filmmaker in any language

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ever, and I have watched that
movie.

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I don't know, six seven times.
Now it I just can't crack it.

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It is to impenetrable for me to
appreciate and you know, I know

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that I am in the minority on
that one and Brad.

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It sounds like, you know that
you're in the minority on this

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one.
And I guess the question for us

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then is like, where do we go
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I think we probably should talk
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little bit because, especially,
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Margo.
We're talking about one of the

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iconic screen performances of
all time and not just because of

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the way that he Davis plays it.
But because of this really great

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dialogue, that Joe mankiewicz
wrote for her, you know, that

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that line where she goes up the
stairs and turns around and says

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fasten your seatbelts, it's
going to be a bumpy night, is

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one of the most quoted American
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Ever, and I think it's worth
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performances.
Brad, even if you found things

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in them that you disliked.
So let's start right at the top.

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Let's start with Betty Davis.
This is the first Betty Davis

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film that we've done on this
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You know, one of the iconic
actresses in movie.

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History.
What did you think of her here?

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Honestly?
I think one of the strengths of

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her performance wasn't
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specifically did the costuming
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of making her look like a walk.
Washed up super rough aging

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actress like interesting.
Like the moment she came on

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screen I was just kind of like
poof like well, yeah.

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The big as they can get on her
number on her because they kind

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of come in on her backstage
where she's like, applying

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lotions and stuff to her face
and her makeup is very stripped

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down and yeah, you're right.
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So honestly, I think one of the
best parts of the movie was the

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costuming for her to kind of
play up this character of like

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an aging star.
Whose No slightly losing her

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grip a little bit.
The main thing I really liked

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about her performance itself was
the one scene that she has with

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Karen in the car when the heat
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It was the only time that you
see her be really sincere and

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honest and I think in that
moment you kind of understand

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why Bill loves her.
And again let's let's just I

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don't mean hit pause on you
here, Brad.

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But we've dropped a couple
character names that we have not

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actually talked about yet.
So like you mentioned bill.

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You mentioned Karen.
So, Karen is Margo's best

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friend.
Betty Davis, his best friend in

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the movie, who is the wife of
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Lloyd is the playwright of all
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And Betty Davis is boyfriend's,
name is Bill.

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Bill is a director of all the
plays that she's been in, right?

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And at, you know, at a certain
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everybody still believes What's
an Baxter's characters named

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Eve?
I'll all about all about easy.

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That's it.
Is this how you could tell when

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Brad dislikes, a movie?
What's the title?

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Character's name that guy that
mad at guy that sat on the bench

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and ate a box of chocolates?
What the fuck was his name?

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Yeah, Kim.
I don't remember, no, no, that's

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Pope fastball fiction.
Wow, dude, I can't believe we

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just moved from. 1850s All About
Eve tonight.

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Thank you.
Thank you - Pulp Fiction.

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That's a big old.
If there should be a new

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recurring segments like a six
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Like can we get to the Gimp in
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Do you just think about that for
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And it was only 45 years.
We went from a movie like All

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About Eve to the movies.
I can't fix it.

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Yeah, yeah.
Oh, man.

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So anyway, Betty Davis is in the
car with Karen.

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Yes.
And they're having a

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conversation that you really
liked.

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Yeah.
So Betty Davis and Karen are in

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the car and Karen has basically
screwed.

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Over Betty Davis, who is famous
for her Iron Man like run of

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never missing a show, right?
She's this leading star actress

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in the theater and she never
misses a show and Karen being a

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little bit spiteful and feeling
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But Davis's character decides to
kind of screw over and force her

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to miss a show.
So that Eve has a chance as her

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understudy to perform and in the
end, Karen kind of realizes In

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This Moment, Like no, like Betty
Davis is is finally kind of

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coming to her senses and finally
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And in that moment I was really
just super impressed by Celeste

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Holm right that she the look of
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And when she realizes, like, oh
my gosh, like I kind of just

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messed up my best friend's
career, you know, obviously not

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her Legacy, but like, I just
like, put the final nail in the

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coffin for her.
That that moment is just really

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beautiful.
Now, that was probably one of

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the few moments of the movie
where I was engaged and caring

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about the characters.
All right?

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So that takes us into talking
about the character of Eve

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played by Anne Baxter.
Now it sounds Brad like you did

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not buy Eve for a second and
part of me is like I understand

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where you're coming from,
because I do think that this

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character is kind of the the
biggest broadest character in

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the movie.
Like she plays innocent, she

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plays Evil.
And yet I'm kind of like okay is

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it overplayed or are we as an
audience supposed to know that

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this is all an act that she's
putting on from the beginning?

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You know what I mean?
Like I can't tell if it's if

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it's just that am Baxter went
like way too big with this

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performance.
Or if they were trying to clue

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Us in from the beginning that
like this is not what it seems

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to the characters in the movie.
Addison wants me to play it Over

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My Dead Body, that won't be
necessary.

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Addison knows how Margo happened
to miss that performance, how I

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happen to know, she'd miss it in
time to call him and notify

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every paper in town.
It's quite a story that isn't

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could make quite a thing of it.
Imagine how snide and vicious.

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He could get and still tell
nothing but the truth.

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I had a Time persuading him.
You better sit down.

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You look at wobbly.
No, I see what you're saying.

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I think that.
I don't know.

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I don't lie.
Don't know, and it's hard.

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It's also hard to know for me
because I don't know the 1950s

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audience.
Hey, you know, like did

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mankiewicz have a audience in
mind that would believe her

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character and just like
unwittingly go.

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Yeah, sure.
Like, are we just a lot more

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cynical in 2021?
Actually?

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That's a dumb question.
We are a lot more cynical in.

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O'Neill.
I don't know if I would agree

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with that.
I don't know man. 1950s.

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We had just won the war.
Well, so like that.

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Now, go ahead do a finisher
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I'm sorry, we had just won the
war, like, we're all buying

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houses in the suburbs and like
American culture was like really

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On The Rise, you know, in their
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So I feel like back then we were
much more trusting of movie

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characters than we would have
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I think that there's a, there's
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but I also see this movie and a
Other movies that came out

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around the same time as really
important, kind of culturally

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for where Hollywood went in the
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So like in the 1940s, the big
new thing that happened was the

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film Noir, right?
Like, in the 1930s, you had the

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Warner Brothers, gangster
pictures with Jimmy Cagney and

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Edward Robinson in the 40s,
those transformed into your film

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Noir which is like Double
Indemnity a bit.

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You know, generally about
regular people who get caught up

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in these really kind of seedy
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I'm you know, situations there's
a femme fatale.

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There's usually sex and murder
which by the way.

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Fun fact All About Eve number 28
on the AFI top 100, Double

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Indemnity, number 29.
There you go, you should watch

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them both.
But what I did there one of them

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is a great movie.
What?

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I was going to say though was I
think by the time you get to the

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1950s, there's still this really
palpable sense of like extreme

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cynicism that you got in.
War where it's like kind of

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Bleak kind of nihilistic really
cynical all of the heroes.

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And those movies are the
protagonist in those movies,

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don't trust anyone.
And instead of making them be

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about crime, and about, you
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that.
They start making these kind of

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movies about the entertainment
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So All About Eve kind of comes
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It comes on 1950.
It's really talking about like,

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the backstabbing and the
cynicism in In the theater, the

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same near Billy Wilder comes out
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which is about kind of the same
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But said in Hollywood in the
world of movies and then all

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through the 1950s, you start to
see these filmmakers, turn the

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spotlight back on Hollywood and
really critique what we're

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starting to do as a society.
So, Billy Wilder comes out with

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this movie in the 50s, called
Ace in the Hole, which is about

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this guy that gets basically
trapped underground in like a

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mine or something and it's it's
really kind of a satire.

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It's a dark.
Tire, but it's about like the

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media circus that ends up
surrounding that and how people

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stop caring about.
There's an actual human life

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hanging in the balance and
they're worried about how to get

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better TV ratings.
And you start to see like these

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movies, really emerge out of
that period, like Ace in the

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Hole like later in the decade,
you get movies like the sweet

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smell of success, like a face in
the crowd and All About Eve.

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I think is really kind of on The
Cutting Edge here, Brad between

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film Noir and what you see in
the later, part of the 19th. 50s

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where it's taking those film
Noir elements and it's just

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applying them to a kind of a
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So I guess then, you know what's
the critique?

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Oh like conniving young, you
know, evil actresses bad.

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Well, I mean it's a morality
play, right?

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Like I mean, it's all about the
Vicious Cycle of, you know, I'm

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sure Margo and all of her
friends have done bad things in

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their lives, but at the end of
the day even people like Addison

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DeWitt the, you know, the Most
nearly as evil columnist, looks

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at Eve at one point with horror
on his face.

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Like I can't believe you are
sinking to the depths that you

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are to get what you want.
And at the end of the movie you

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find that there's another young
actress who's really, I think

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she goes by Phoebe or something
who comes into Eve's life.

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And you basically start to
understand the cycle is starting

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all over again.
Now, it's going to happen to Eve

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what she did to other people.
And I think it's just it's a

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very simple morality play.
If you do things to people,

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that's what's gonna Happen to
you is going to come back around

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on you and like, I don't know,
but I don't know, but that's not

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what happens because in the end
Margo walks off into the sunset

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happy as can be.
Yea, sure she doesn't, she

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doesn't get any, you know,
comeuppance for all the crappy

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things that she has done.
Well, we don't know that she

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actually has done crappy things,
is what I'm saying, though?

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Like, I mean, she's, you know,
she gets kind of snippy with her

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friends at some points, but
aside from that like she doesn't

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do the things that Eve does.
I think is the point of the

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story?
And like the critique is

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essentially just, you know,
what, what good is it to gain

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the whole world and lose your
soul?

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I mean, that's that's the point
of this movie.

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It's a very simple morality
story in my mind and it's no

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different than, you know, the
kind of basic plot and basic

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moral.
You get in a movie like Double

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Indemnity which is like.
If you let yourself get seduced

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and wander off, the path that
you're supposed to be on bad,

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things will happen to you, like
I don't think it needs to have

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more of like a huge Chiral
critique than that.

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I will say the end of the film
while the the whole Phoebe

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subplot at the very end was kind
of like yeah.

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Okay so there's another person
that's going to do to you.

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Cool cool cool.
It did have hands down the best

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cinematography like moment of
the film, like, Eve walks into

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the apartment and you know, that
there's going to be somebody in

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the apartment like that's really
obvious.

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But the way that they reveal
somebody being the in the

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apartment with the slow move of
the camera towards the Mirror.

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And this girl is just like
sleeping or probably fake

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sleeping because she's evil evil
evil.

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She but she's like sleeping in
that chair that bro, that was a

446
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,600
great shot.
Yeah.

447
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,100
And there's some really great
camera stuff going on in this

448
00:24:13,100 --> 00:24:15,400
movie, just in general.
Like I was really Blown Away.

449
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,900
By the way, they lift people's
eyes throughout the movie, eyes

450
00:24:18,900 --> 00:24:21,700
are always visible in this movie
and they, especially, you know,

451
00:24:21,700 --> 00:24:24,800
the very famous thing about
Betty Davis was her eyes and

452
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,800
they really accentuate them in
this movie.

453
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,600
But I was Even kind of you know
marveling at at the very

454
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,900
beginning, you get this freeze
frame of Eve going to accept her

455
00:24:34,900 --> 00:24:38,300
award and everything just pauses
and I'm like oh it's Scorsese

456
00:24:38,300 --> 00:24:40,400
before Scorsese was doing it.
You know what I mean?

457
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,000
There's a really long Freeze
Frame and they're just narrating

458
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,800
over it for a long period of
time.

459
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,900
And I was like, oh yeah.
It's the, you know, it's the

460
00:24:47,900 --> 00:24:50,500
female New York theater version
of Goodfellas.

461
00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:54,600
I feel like the cool part of
that scene was the fact that Eve

462
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,700
stopped and then whenever the
camera was somewhere else for

463
00:24:57,700 --> 00:25:00,100
the Everybody else was still
Applause right?

464
00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:01,700
Yeah, that was the cool part for
me.

465
00:25:01,700 --> 00:25:04,300
Yeah, totally agree.
Well, I'm glad Brad that you're

466
00:25:04,300 --> 00:25:09,300
finding at least some things
here to laud even while you're

467
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,600
eventually going to crap on this
movie and I know it's coming but

468
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,800
before we get to that any other
kind of like supporting

469
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,200
characters you want to call out.
I know you talked about Celeste

470
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,400
Holm as Margo's best friend.
I want to talk for a minute

471
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,800
about George Sanders, as Addison
DeWitt.

472
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,900
The conniving cynical knows
more.

473
00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:31,400
Than everybody columnist that
can make or break a career.

474
00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:33,400
I really loved his performance
here, Brad.

475
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,800
And and I think that that last
scene that he has with Eve where

476
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:43,200
he basically puts his foot down
and says, you think that you can

477
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,700
play me for a Rube the way
you've been playing.

478
00:25:45,700 --> 00:25:49,200
Everybody else I happen to have
even more information than you

479
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,900
are and I have less morals than
everybody else that you've been

480
00:25:52,900 --> 00:25:55,500
backstabbing.
It's not going to happen to me.

481
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,000
I think he plays that kind of
manipulation.

482
00:25:58,100 --> 00:26:01,700
Ation really really great.
Even while you can see on his

483
00:26:01,700 --> 00:26:05,000
face that he's kind of shocked
and appalled at what Eve has

484
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,600
been doing?
Once he finds out that she's

485
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,500
been lying about everything, If
I should want you at all

486
00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:13,000
suddenly strikes me as the
height of improbability.

487
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,400
And that in itself is probably
the reason.

488
00:26:17,900 --> 00:26:21,000
You're an improbable person.
Even sir my we have that in

489
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,900
common.
Also a contempt for Humanity and

490
00:26:24,900 --> 00:26:29,800
inability to love and be loved
insatiable ambition and

491
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,300
challenge.
We deserve each other.

492
00:26:32,700 --> 00:26:34,400
See in the end.
That's what confused me about

493
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,200
that part of the script.
Like he talks about being this

494
00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:40,800
evil soulless person who is
going to.

495
00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:45,200
I mean the script is self.
I get that, it's a 50s and

496
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,200
things were problematic back
then, but the fact that he is

497
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,400
blackmailing her into having sex
and a relationship with him.

498
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,400
I don't know, I'm just going to
point out that that's not great

499
00:26:56,500 --> 00:27:00,500
or good or anything and there's
no critique on that.

500
00:27:00,700 --> 00:27:05,000
So that's not great.
But like why does he, why does

501
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,900
he feel like oh how could you do
this?

502
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,000
You are an evil person and I
feel terrible.

503
00:27:12,100 --> 00:27:14,700
So terrible about it that I'm
going to make you be in a

504
00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:18,500
relationship with me.
I I just don't buy a man.

505
00:27:18,500 --> 00:27:20,200
Yeah, I get it.
I get it.

506
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,100
That's a weird part of the
script.

507
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:27,000
Although I'll agree with you, I
think that George Sanders plays

508
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,500
the extremely strange script.
He's given exceedingly.

509
00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:33,500
Well I do find it really funny
that you're keying in on like

510
00:27:33,500 --> 00:27:36,400
the rapey elements of that
because I think that there's so

511
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,700
much more power dynamics at play
there.

512
00:27:39,300 --> 00:27:43,000
And I think it's heavily implied
that Addison is gay.

513
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,200
So like I don't, I don't know.
Wait what I mean you don't find

514
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,100
him soon as not gay.
I mean, he has Marilyn Monroe in

515
00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:54,400
his arm but like we don't Ever
actually see him engage in any

516
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,500
sort of romantic activity with
these women, despite what he

517
00:27:57,500 --> 00:28:00,200
says in public.
Like, I think it really is just

518
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,500
like a great.
Like, it's creepy because he

519
00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:06,700
like wants to groom women but
like in a way that gives him

520
00:28:06,700 --> 00:28:10,300
more power on the New York
theater scene, like he wants to

521
00:28:10,300 --> 00:28:14,400
craft a career from the ground
up with him as The Mastermind

522
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,400
behind it.
And I think so.

523
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,300
I think like for him, it's not
as much about sex as it is just

524
00:28:19,300 --> 00:28:23,300
about like the absolute power of
being able to To conform

525
00:28:23,300 --> 00:28:27,100
somebody to whatever image he
wants to make them into.

526
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,200
Yeah, I mean, I 100% agree with
all that, but I don't think that

527
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,300
that makes him gay.
I'm not saying it.

528
00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:36,100
Nothing.
Okay.

529
00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:38,900
I just, I thought it's to me.
I think it was heavily implied

530
00:28:38,900 --> 00:28:41,700
that he was gay but that might,
that might just be me, huh?

531
00:28:41,900 --> 00:28:45,600
Yeah no, I know that.
That is the hot take of the day

532
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,800
I think.
All right cool.

533
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,100
That totally threw me for a
loop.

534
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,300
Interesting and Brad you were
kind of Talking about that

535
00:28:53,300 --> 00:28:55,400
ending, you know?
And I'm even thinking of what

536
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,300
his very last appearance in the
movie is where he comes up to

537
00:28:59,300 --> 00:29:01,900
Yves apartment to drop off the
award that she doesn't even care

538
00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:03,500
about anymore.
It has left in the cab.

539
00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:05,700
Yeah.
And he sees this girl, Phoebe

540
00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:08,200
open the door and he immediately
knows what's up.

541
00:29:08,700 --> 00:29:12,300
And I just you get this very
kind of devilish little smirk

542
00:29:12,300 --> 00:29:14,600
where he's like mmmm Phoebe,
huh?

543
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,400
And you know that that he
understands that the cycle is

544
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,200
starting up again and I just I
think that having this I keep

545
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,400
using the word cynical but
having this really kind of Bleak

546
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,700
cynical guide through the world
of All About Eve in.

547
00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:35,600
Addison really helps Hammer the
power of that ending home and

548
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,100
you were talking about how when
Eve comes in the apartment and

549
00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:41,600
you kind of like wondering why
they're following her around the

550
00:29:41,608 --> 00:29:43,900
apartment before it's revealed.
There's somebody in there.

551
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,000
I was thinking to myself while
watching it you know if this was

552
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,400
a film Noir and we've seen
everything that's happened up to

553
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,100
this point.
There would be Be somebody in

554
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:55,000
Eve's apartment waiting to just
shoot her.

555
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,700
And that's the end of the movie,
is like her dying in a pool of

556
00:29:57,700 --> 00:30:00,600
her own blood.
And I think that what I really

557
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,200
love about this movie is that
the way that they go with it is

558
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,900
somehow even darker than if
somebody had just shot him to

559
00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:10,400
death.
Like she is going to suffer the

560
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,100
same fate that she inflicted on
everybody else.

561
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:18,400
And it is, it is so much more
powerful and chilling to me to

562
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,000
watch that ending then if
somebody had just come and, you

563
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,000
know, stabbed her out of GE.
See and this is where once again

564
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,200
I feel like the script is just
just over playing its hand so

565
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:36,900
hard like to me it is 100% 200%,
unbelievable that Eve wouldn't

566
00:30:36,900 --> 00:30:40,400
have just thrown that girl out
and been like you think, I don't

567
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,900
know what you're trying to do,
like they try to play Eve off as

568
00:30:43,900 --> 00:30:46,100
This.
Brilliant Mastermind, who's

569
00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:48,200
played innocent?
All these years to gain the

570
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,000
spotlight, but all of a sudden
she doesn't see when somebody

571
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,400
else is Trying to do the same
thing like like, come on.

572
00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:58,000
Come on, bro.
But Brad I will say this and

573
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,800
again, I respect your opinion, I
can see where your arguments

574
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:06,100
coming from, but the Writers
Guild of America did a list of

575
00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:08,700
their top, 100 screenplays of
all time.

576
00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:12,700
All About Eve, screenplay by
Joseph l mankiewicz number 5

577
00:31:12,700 --> 00:31:16,000
screen play ever written.
So I just want you to

578
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,900
acknowledge that.
As we move on, here it is.

579
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,100
It is an uphill battle for you
to prove your point here.

580
00:31:22,900 --> 00:31:25,900
I don't have any respect for the
screenwriting Guild of America.

581
00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:28,900
It doesn't bother me at all,
that they would put it ever

582
00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:30,700
since that time, they rejected
your script.

583
00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:34,900
You've just had he had a
vendetta against all right.

584
00:31:34,900 --> 00:31:36,700
Brad I think we're in a good
place to hit pause.

585
00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:38,600
Why don't we try this old azeris
Evan?

586
00:31:39,300 --> 00:32:23,900
Let's get to it.
Alright so today we are checking

587
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:26,900
out old Ezra seven-year Barrel
strength.

588
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,300
Now this is a whiskey that comes
to us from the Luxe.

589
00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:32,500
Go Corporation, we've talked
about Luxe go on this podcast

590
00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:35,900
many times before they have a
Distillery now in Bardstown,

591
00:32:35,900 --> 00:32:38,400
Kentucky called Lux row
distilling.

592
00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:40,700
They are the company that is not
called.

593
00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:42,800
Lux Co this to know it's called
Luxor.

594
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,000
Oh there you go neat.
They are the, they are The

595
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,800
Distillery that owns the Brand's
Rebel Yell.

596
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,600
They own Yellowstone.
David Nicholson.

597
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,700
Reserve rabble.
Oh yeah it's not Rebel Yell

598
00:32:55,700 --> 00:32:59,300
anymore, Rebel Rebel Bourbon and
azra.

599
00:32:59,300 --> 00:33:01,400
Brooks.
Now we have had 90 Proof just

600
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,500
the regular black label, Ezra
Brooks during our Springtime of

601
00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:08,300
swill, a surprisingly good,
really cheap bourbon.

602
00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:12,000
I am also a big fan of a lot of
Lux co-products.

603
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,500
I really like rebel, I like
Rebel 100 recently.

604
00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:18,100
They just started releasing an
Ezra Brooks.

605
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:22,000
That is 99 proof, which is
really, really good for $25.

606
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:26,500
This was intended to kind of
inject more life into the Ezra

607
00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:28,200
Brooks name.
They started doing this back and

608
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,700
I think either late 2017 or
early 2018, they came out with

609
00:33:31,700 --> 00:33:36,000
this old Ezra 7 Barrel strength
because the next step up from

610
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:41,500
Ezra, Brooks was Ezra Brooks
7-year, which is a 101 proof

611
00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:43,000
Bourbon.
And they basically just said

612
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,900
like, Hey we're going to do this
and we're going to get a barrel

613
00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:47,500
proof and we're going to sell it
for whatever it was $30 or

614
00:33:47,500 --> 00:33:50,000
whatever and people really liked
it.

615
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:51,100
I mean, it went over really
well.

616
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:54,200
It was a super affordable.
Portable Barrel strength

617
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,000
bourbon.
They have continued to produce

618
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,300
it since then because it was
such a boon for this brand and

619
00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:03,300
of course as things do the price
has gone up exponentially

620
00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:05,900
because bourbon drinkers can't
get enough of bourbon right now.

621
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,199
So Brad, we are reviewing this
in 2021 a full.

622
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:11,100
What?
3ish?

623
00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:13,800
Three and a half years.
Since this particular expression

624
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,300
launched will get into the price
and how much it's gone up.

625
00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:19,199
But for our purposes.
Brad.

626
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,900
I know we have this poured out
in front of us.

627
00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:24,500
What are you picking up on?
On the nose of this old Ezra 7

628
00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:28,800
Barrel strength Bob.
This is a beautifully classic

629
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,300
bourbon experience.
Like I feel like I'm getting

630
00:34:31,300 --> 00:34:34,600
some vanilla butterscotch hints
of caramel.

631
00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:38,800
There's a little bit of brown
sugar and at the very back end

632
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,699
once you I feel like once I
spent some time with it and got

633
00:34:41,699 --> 00:34:45,400
passed, some of the heat, you
got some of those okey notes

634
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,400
that you're kind of expecting an
even.

635
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,199
I don't know a little bit of
spiciness there.

636
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,000
I think it's a really solid
knows that I'm going to give it

637
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:53,900
Seven and a half out of ten.
Yeah.

638
00:34:53,900 --> 00:34:55,600
Brad.
You made a really good note,

639
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,000
which was once you get past the
Heat and honestly, I don't know

640
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,300
that I'm able to get past the
heat on this one.

641
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,500
Honestly, like the thing that's
overwhelming me here is the

642
00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:07,600
ethanol and it's just really
alcohol forward.

643
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,200
I have been letting this sit and
are out for, I don't know, 20

644
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,400
minutes now.
Then I've been consistently

645
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,700
nosing it as we've been talking
about All About Eve and it's not

646
00:35:16,700 --> 00:35:18,800
going away.
I've, you know, I've puffed into

647
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,000
the glass A little bit.
It just really seems like a very

648
00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:25,600
Free alcohol forward whiskey.
It's got some kind of nice.

649
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,000
There's almost a lightness to
it.

650
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,900
There's a bit of floral on it as
well.

651
00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:34,900
The mash bill on this is 78%
corn. 12%, malted barley 10% rye

652
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,200
and I do think that, like, some
of that malted.

653
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,600
Barley character is really
coming out here on the nose.

654
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,300
I like it.
I just wish that the dominant

655
00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:47,000
note wasn't ethanol, so I'm only
going to give this a 6 out of 10

656
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,100
on the nose.
You try blown that at the mall

657
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:51,200
on out of there.
Hmm.

658
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,400
Man.
Yeah I'm really enjoying this

659
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,300
knows.
It's not like so you know, blow

660
00:35:56,300 --> 00:35:58,400
me out of the water but it's
really solid.

661
00:35:58,700 --> 00:36:02,300
And honestly, as I get into the
actual palette and the taste of

662
00:36:02,300 --> 00:36:07,600
this, it is a it's a little bit
thinner than I would hope for,

663
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:13,200
you know, 117 proof whiskey,
whoo, but it has a nice burst of

664
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,300
flavor.
Wow.

665
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:17,900
I think you get a little bit of
fruitiness there, but in the end

666
00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:20,400
it's largely sweet.
There's a lot of caramel pushing

667
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,000
through What, you know, the
amount of heat that kind of

668
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,900
hits.
You good Lord.

669
00:36:25,900 --> 00:36:27,000
Brad.
Are you drinking this out of a

670
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,300
Glencairn glass?
I sure am.

671
00:36:29,300 --> 00:36:32,900
But I am too.
And like, I feel like my tongue

672
00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:37,600
just got singed, like, from the
moment, it touched the tip of my

673
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,400
tongue, it burned it.
Burned my whole tongue going

674
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,600
back, it burned going down and
it is leaving my tongue feeling

675
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,700
like nearly blistered.
Like this is just the hottest.

676
00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:53,800
Most alcohol forward.
Not it's not like I don't wanna

677
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,300
say it's a harsh taste because
it's not bitter or anything like

678
00:36:56,300 --> 00:36:58,600
that.
It's just like alcohol, alcohol,

679
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,400
alcohol.
And any note that I'm getting

680
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:07,700
underneath that is like at least
50% less, you know, strong than

681
00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:10,500
the alcohol is like, I don't
know.

682
00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:14,700
I don't know what's going on
with my half of this sample that

683
00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:17,800
you're not picking up on Brad.
But this thing is like, like

684
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,300
drinking fire.
Did you sign the waiver that

685
00:37:21,300 --> 00:37:24,800
came with it beforehand?
Was I not supposed to dump the

686
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,600
Habaneros into this?
Oh yeah, I think that might darn

687
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,200
it the problem.
Darn it.

688
00:37:30,900 --> 00:37:34,300
No dude.
I am getting honestly, one of

689
00:37:34,300 --> 00:37:39,000
the most Pleasant ethanol heat
experiences I've ever had.

690
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:44,000
I think that that little bit of
Rye that 10% Rye almost like

691
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,200
partners with the heat where I
can't tell if it's like heat

692
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,400
from ethanol or just a little
bit of spice.

693
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,000
Enos that like underlies all of
the other flavors that I'm

694
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,700
getting.
So the second sip is way way

695
00:37:55,700 --> 00:37:57,200
better.
I think it's just because it

696
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,600
singed everything on the way
down the first time, but I'm

697
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,300
definitely able to pick up more
notes on the taste.

698
00:38:04,300 --> 00:38:06,800
The Second Step around it,
doesn't it definitely comes

699
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,200
across a little bit smoother.
I just don't know how I can

700
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,000
score this.
Knowing that like you have to

701
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,700
push through the first sip
before you can even start

702
00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:16,600
appreciating it on the second
sip.

703
00:38:17,300 --> 00:38:19,200
I'm only going to give this a
five and a half on the taste

704
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,000
bread.
See, Bob, I don't remember which

705
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,400
Barrel strength whiskey we drank
first on this podcast, but I

706
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,900
remember having a similar
experience where I was just

707
00:38:27,900 --> 00:38:30,400
like, holy cow.
I just got destroyed by that

708
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,300
initial, you know tasting.
Yeah and it really ruined the

709
00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:37,900
rest of the experience for me.
I haven't had that experience

710
00:38:38,300 --> 00:38:43,100
many times since but the yeah
this definitely for me was one

711
00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:46,900
of my favorite Barrel strength
performance.

712
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,800
This is as just just considering
the heat, you know, and

713
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,100
obviously other than that I
really like the flavors going on

714
00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:54,300
here.
I'm going to give it an 8 out of

715
00:38:54,300 --> 00:38:58,700
10 on the taste and really, as I
get into the Finish, it's really

716
00:38:58,700 --> 00:39:01,200
this gorgeous finish.
That's full of Oak.

717
00:39:01,700 --> 00:39:05,400
It's got a nice bit of warmth
that literally just like I can

718
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:10,400
almost feel it slowly ratcheting
down the longer, it sits on, you

719
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,400
know, on my throat and as it as
it moves towards finishing

720
00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:17,600
towards the ending.
And and honestly, I My favorite

721
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,400
part of the finishes that
there's just a little bit of

722
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:24,500
spiciness that kind of like
lingers Beyond any other flavor.

723
00:39:24,500 --> 00:39:27,300
That's just this Pleasant.
Little tingle, as you finish

724
00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:29,600
this one, I'm going to stick it.
An 8 out of 10.

725
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,300
It's not a perfect finish but
I'll be darn, man.

726
00:39:32,300 --> 00:39:34,800
It's pretty good.
Well, your objectively wrong

727
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,300
Brad and I don't know how else.
I think, I think the tables have

728
00:39:39,300 --> 00:39:43,500
been turned here because I was
going to say, bro, you, you are

729
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:46,300
loving this movie.
Nate in this whiskey, I am hate

730
00:39:46,300 --> 00:39:48,600
and smooth.
She and really loving this

731
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,500
whiskey.
Yeah, the finish.

732
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:52,900
I will say, the Finish is a
little bit nicer than everything

733
00:39:52,900 --> 00:39:54,300
else.
Like it's, I don't think that

734
00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:57,600
it's a really aggressive, like,
Kentucky hug on the way down,

735
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,800
you know?
It's there but like, honestly,

736
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,600
the Finish was not nearly as
harsh as the, The Taste, the

737
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,800
first tasting was I actually got
some really nice, dark

738
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,200
chocolate, and kind of bitters
notes at the very very end of

739
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,100
The Taste in to the Finish.
I thought that was pretty

740
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:14,400
Pleasant.
I'm actually going to give this

741
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,900
a seven out of ten on the finish
and that's it.

742
00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:19,200
Into overall balance.
This is where we talk about.

743
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,300
How knows taste and finish all
put together kind of form, a

744
00:40:23,300 --> 00:40:26,400
cohesive experience, or don't
Brad.

745
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,500
How do you think this one did in
terms of balance?

746
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,600
I think it's a well-balanced
whiskey.

747
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,800
And I think that there's like
just enough complexity going on

748
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,100
to keep me interested.
It's not a massively complex

749
00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:39,400
whiskey.
You have a few main notes that

750
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,300
stick with you all the way
through but the fact that they

751
00:40:42,300 --> 00:40:44,900
stick with you all the way
through is what makes me give it

752
00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:46,600
a seven and a half out of ten
on.

753
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,900
Ants.
Yeah, I just I disagree like

754
00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:53,400
just wholeheartedly and I have
not much more to say about this.

755
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,600
I'm going to give this a 5 on
the balance.

756
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,500
Brad, this is a 117 proof
whiskey, so it's definitely

757
00:41:00,500 --> 00:41:03,500
Barrel strength but we've had
much higher proof Whiskey's on

758
00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:05,100
this podcast before.
You know.

759
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:07,600
I think of that Jack Daniels
single barrel.

760
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,500
We had that I think was 130
proof.

761
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:11,900
We've done wiser Craig.
Barrel proofs on this podcast

762
00:41:11,900 --> 00:41:16,900
before, in terms of the, the
pallet the front of the

763
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,800
Especially in the mid palate.
This thing just really burned

764
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,900
the front of my tongue.
It's not the harshest whiskey

765
00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:24,300
I've ever had and I'm finding
it.

766
00:41:24,300 --> 00:41:26,700
Hard to kind of distinguish
between that it's not super

767
00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:28,900
harsh in terms of the flavor of
it.

768
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:32,100
And the Finish is actually quite
nice but like what leads into

769
00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:34,300
it?
Really kind of shocked me with,

770
00:41:34,300 --> 00:41:36,400
with how much it burned and how
hot it drinks.

771
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,300
So it's just not up my alley,
man.

772
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:42,900
Well, and that, and Bob, I think
we're going to be pretty far off

773
00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:48,200
on our value score, as well, you
know, this is $60. 5999 in the

774
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,600
state of Ohio.
Really?

775
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:53,100
Yeah.
And I will say I'm going to give

776
00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:59,400
it a six out of ten on value.
I think $60 is about 10 now

777
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,900
probably 15 to 20 dollars too
high for this.

778
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:05,400
Yeah, it's not the worst value.
It's a good-looking bottle that

779
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,900
I think it's worth having on
your shelf.

780
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:13,400
However, $60 in the world of
bourbon is really getting up

781
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,100
there.
So, this is a solid product that

782
00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:18,600
I would, I I genuinely would
recommend.

783
00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:21,700
But yeah, 60 hours is a little
high.

784
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,100
Yeah.
So when we started this podcast,

785
00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:27,900
Brad in 2019.
I know for a fact that this sold

786
00:42:27,900 --> 00:42:33,400
in the state of Ohio for 3499
and they raised it in 2022.

787
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:39,400
I think 4999 and I was like how
dare they raised this by $15 and

788
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,800
I was unaware of the fact that
they raised it again for 20 21,

789
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:47,200
and it is now almost double what
it was just two years ago, that

790
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,200
is insane.
And I don't Not know like when

791
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,200
stuff like this happens, I don't
know who to get angrier at.

792
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,500
Is it the distiller for driving
up price?

793
00:42:56,500 --> 00:42:59,300
And it may just be that they
don't have a lot of product left

794
00:42:59,300 --> 00:43:01,500
and they're not they can't meet
demand so you have to raise the

795
00:43:01,500 --> 00:43:04,000
price?
Or is it just places like the

796
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,000
state of Ohio setting prices at
an astronomical level?

797
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:10,300
I don't know, but Dad is way too
high for this.

798
00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:14,900
If this was $35 despite the fact
that I don't like it I actually

799
00:43:14,900 --> 00:43:18,700
think I'd give it like a 77 and
a half on the value because it's

800
00:43:18,700 --> 00:43:21,300
Barrel.
Barrel strength at a price that

801
00:43:21,300 --> 00:43:25,300
no one else is selling at at
$60, you're talking, it's higher

802
00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:28,800
than wild turkey Rare Breed,
it's higher than old Forester

803
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,500
1920.
There's just no way.

804
00:43:31,500 --> 00:43:33,400
I would ever pay $60 for this
bread.

805
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,600
I'm going to give it a 3 out of
10 on value and that is putting

806
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:45,100
my final score out to a 26 and a
half out of 50 man.

807
00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:47,900
I will say as you were talking
about like you know, who to

808
00:43:47,900 --> 00:43:50,200
blame for this, I Ink in the
end.

809
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,400
The only real answer is to blame
be tack at like I don't know

810
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,400
how, but this is clearly color
back to be sack, somehow it all

811
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,600
comes back feet and attack is
the Pulp Fiction gimp of of

812
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:08,900
whiskeys.
But honestly, we are coming out

813
00:44:08,900 --> 00:44:13,400
with probably one of our biggest
differences in a really long

814
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,900
time on a whiskey.
I am at a 37 out of 50.

815
00:44:18,300 --> 00:44:22,500
Wow, on old. 37.
Yeah, dude man.

816
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,900
Okay, so that's putting us out
to a sixty three and a half out

817
00:44:25,900 --> 00:44:30,300
of 100 or a 31-point 75 out of
50.

818
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,100
Which I'm sure.
Brad thinks is way too low and I

819
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:36,000
think is like astronomically
High compared to what I just

820
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,900
drank.
I have to say, Brad coming into

821
00:44:38,900 --> 00:44:41,300
this episode.
I thought that we were both

822
00:44:41,300 --> 00:44:44,700
going to enjoy this whiskey and
really like this movie and that

823
00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:47,900
is absolutely not the case.
This is the most surprising

824
00:44:47,900 --> 00:44:50,900
episode of the season.
Or me so far all around.

825
00:44:50,900 --> 00:44:52,700
Yeah, I mean I have to keep you
on your toes.

826
00:44:52,700 --> 00:44:56,100
Bob what a you know what's the
whole point of me being on this

827
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:58,600
podcast?
So okay in terms of

828
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,000
recommendations do you recommend
buying it?

829
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,400
Do you recommend trying it or
both?

830
00:45:03,700 --> 00:45:08,000
I would recommend if you have a
friend who's really into

831
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,100
whiskey, I'd say split it.
I would say that this is worth

832
00:45:11,100 --> 00:45:14,600
spending 34 like a half bottle,
definitely try it.

833
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,400
If you're out, this definitely
falls into the range of like

834
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:18,900
yeah.
Little too expensive for my

835
00:45:18,900 --> 00:45:21,200
shelf.
But I want to try the actual

836
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,000
whiskey.
But yeah, I would say I

837
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,900
recommend.
Yeah, like half-heartedly.

838
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,400
I actually would recommend
trying it just because again, I

839
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,700
know I'm in the minority and not
liking it, but I don't think it

840
00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:35,700
is like unpalatable.
You know what I mean?

841
00:45:35,700 --> 00:45:38,200
This is probably up somebody's
Ali and I think it's worth.

842
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,100
If you're at a bar and they're
charging less than $10 for a

843
00:45:41,100 --> 00:45:44,200
poor of this.
It's worth trying just to see if

844
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,600
you like it.
I would absolutely not recommend

845
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,900
buying a bottle of this at $60
and I think that's kind kind of,

846
00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:52,400
you know, my final word on this
one Pratt.

847
00:45:52,900 --> 00:45:56,600
Well, I am really excited to get
to my final word on this garbage

848
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,000
movie.
Well, let's get back into

849
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,500
talking about the number, 28
film of all time.

850
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:48,400
All About Eve, let's get to it.
Alright, so that was old, Ezra

851
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,400
seven-year Barrel strength,
whiskey that we are as divided

852
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,000
on as we are this movie.
So I mean, it's almost time for

853
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,500
us to give final scores on this
movie.

854
00:46:57,500 --> 00:47:01,700
I am really curious to hear how
low of an opinion Brad actually

855
00:47:01,700 --> 00:47:04,900
has of this movie.
It sounds like there are how low

856
00:47:04,900 --> 00:47:06,800
can it get?
Yeah, it sounds like they are

857
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,300
elements of the movie that you
really respect that.

858
00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:13,700
You think it was in some ways.
Well-crafted just not your cup

859
00:47:13,700 --> 00:47:19,700
of tea is that accurate?
I I think you're overstating it

860
00:47:19,700 --> 00:47:24,700
a little bit like there are
there are very few minut parts

861
00:47:24,700 --> 00:47:27,500
of the movie where I was like oh
that was well done.

862
00:47:28,100 --> 00:47:30,200
Hmm.
However I don't know if that

863
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,800
would lead me to say that I have
respect for this movie.

864
00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:34,600
Wow.
Yeah.

865
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,500
So again I'm not trying to
overstate or like put words in

866
00:47:37,500 --> 00:47:40,800
your mouth I guess I just
thought that I thought I was

867
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,200
understanding where you're
coming from in terms of like how

868
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:48,800
I feel about 2001 which is Yeah.
I mean I can see that this is a

869
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,600
very singular work of a master
director.

870
00:47:52,100 --> 00:47:56,400
I just it does not work for me
and it's not my cup of tea, but

871
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,400
he and and that's where I like
having watched 2001 for the

872
00:47:59,408 --> 00:48:02,800
podcast, I would agree with you.
100% there.

873
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,400
I didn't totally get it, but I
can recognize that, that's a

874
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:11,300
great movie barring, some really
weird stuff going on and it's

875
00:48:11,300 --> 00:48:15,000
long and drawn out.
And, and yeah, so I'm right

876
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,300
there with you.
You like sure.

877
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,700
Okay, that's a great movie.
I'm not at that place with this

878
00:48:19,700 --> 00:48:21,400
film.
Yeah, I think I'm hearing that

879
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,500
loud and clear now.
Yep, just to make it clear.

880
00:48:25,500 --> 00:48:28,600
Bob, this sucks.
No I I don't know, man.

881
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:33,100
I think the reason I don't have
a ton of respect for this film,

882
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,600
is because I feel like there are
a lot of other movies, like it

883
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,000
that, do it better.
Like when you just look at

884
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:45,400
dramas featuring talking people
talking about their lives like

885
00:48:45,500 --> 00:48:48,800
There's a lot of other movies, I
can think of that I would prefer

886
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,100
to this.
It doesn't feel unique enough.

887
00:48:52,100 --> 00:48:55,500
The way 2001 feels unique, does
that make sense?

888
00:48:55,500 --> 00:48:58,800
Totally makes sense as so.
I mean, I know that there's no

889
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,600
convincing you and I really do,
trust your opinion on this

890
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,400
movie.
I think we both acknowledge,

891
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,100
you're in the minority, but like
you, like what you like, you

892
00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:08,300
don't like what you don't like.
I mean, that's just, that's

893
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,700
exactly how we do this podcast.
I will say, Brad before we move

894
00:49:12,700 --> 00:49:15,000
into our final scores.
I do have a little amusing.

895
00:49:15,500 --> 00:49:18,900
We amusing anecdote to share
about this movie one final thing

896
00:49:19,300 --> 00:49:22,900
when it came time for this movie
to be awarded what ended up

897
00:49:22,900 --> 00:49:26,500
happening was the studio wanted
to really push Betty Davis for

898
00:49:26,500 --> 00:49:28,500
Best Actress.
This was kind of her comeback

899
00:49:28,500 --> 00:49:32,700
movie and she had all the
momentum behind her and they

900
00:49:32,700 --> 00:49:37,000
wanted to push and Baxter as
supporting actress and they

901
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,000
thought that they had a really
good shot at winning both of

902
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,300
those Awards and eventually Anne
Baxter basically said,

903
00:49:43,300 --> 00:49:47,000
absolutely not and put her foot
down and said I am the title

904
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,500
character of this movie and I
feel that I gave a leading

905
00:49:51,500 --> 00:49:54,200
actress performance in this
movie, it is possible for a

906
00:49:54,207 --> 00:49:57,100
movie to have co-leads.
I mean, we just kind of saw that

907
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,400
just a couple weeks ago, in
Silence of the Lambs, you know,

908
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,800
the lines between supporting and
leading actor or actress can be

909
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,000
blurred sometimes.
And so Anne Baxter is like, no,

910
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,200
I want to compete for best
actress.

911
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,800
I think I have a shot here and
so the studio pushed her for

912
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,300
best actress and they both ended
up getting nominated.

913
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,700
It for best actress and, you
know, Legend has it that because

914
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:22,200
of that they split the vote,
neither of them wins best

915
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:26,500
actress in 1950.
And so, in some ways you have

916
00:50:26,500 --> 00:50:31,500
Anne Baxter, kind of living into
like the character of Eve and

917
00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:35,800
trying to, you know, undermine
and ruin what was considered to

918
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,000
be an almost a shoo-in award for
Betty Davis that year.

919
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,400
See, now that's a movie.
Yeah.

920
00:50:42,500 --> 00:50:45,300
Like that's a movie right there.
That could be.

921
00:50:45,500 --> 00:50:47,400
Rigging.
Yeah.

922
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,600
But how crazy is it that life
you know imitates art that way?

923
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,600
Yeah, no it's it's wild man.
Sure.

924
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,300
Yeah.
All right, Brad Brad's clearly

925
00:50:56,300 --> 00:51:01,000
done talking about this movie.
Just just just do it Brad.

926
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,000
What's your final score?
I'll give it a six and a half

927
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,100
out of ten.
Oh well, okay, like it's it's

928
00:51:07,100 --> 00:51:11,100
fine.
Like the acting performances are

929
00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:13,400
okay.
You know I like Betty Davis.

930
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,300
I don't like anybody else very
much.

931
00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:18,100
I don't think.
I think the script is very good.

932
00:51:18,100 --> 00:51:21,700
Some of the cinematography is
well done and intriguing, but

933
00:51:21,700 --> 00:51:25,600
overall it seems kind of just
cut and paste type of

934
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,800
cinematography, you know, which
is fine.

935
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,200
Like they're just watching
people live their lives.

936
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,400
So, you know, it's okay, it's
fine.

937
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,500
Six and a half moving on.
I did not expect you to even

938
00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:40,600
give it that high of a score.
So, I'll work with that man

939
00:51:40,700 --> 00:51:44,600
because, you know, this was a
movie that again, I love this

940
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,100
movie.
I think it is.

941
00:51:46,300 --> 00:51:48,600
Definitely one of the top 100
films of all time.

942
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,100
I don't think I'd put it at 28
and watching it through this

943
00:51:51,100 --> 00:51:53,000
time.
You know, I even texted you Brad

944
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,000
because I watched it through
before you did and I said, you

945
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,700
know, I really do think it picks
up a lot in the second half of

946
00:51:58,700 --> 00:52:01,400
the movie, but that first half
is really drawn out.

947
00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:05,000
And I think that even at 2 hours
and 18 minutes, they probably

948
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,500
could have cut between 15 and 20
minutes out of this movie.

949
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,700
I think scenes go on too long
sometimes, and even though this

950
00:52:10,700 --> 00:52:13,300
script is great, I think from a
structural standpoint and

951
00:52:13,300 --> 00:52:16,900
there's some fantastic dialogue.
It does I feel a little bit

952
00:52:16,900 --> 00:52:20,100
baggy at some points, so, I'm
coming out.

953
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,000
It's not a perfect movie but it
is an important movie.

954
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,900
It's a great movie, it's one of
the all-time classics.

955
00:52:25,900 --> 00:52:28,900
I'm going to give this movie a 9
and a half out of ten and that

956
00:52:28,900 --> 00:52:32,200
and that is.
Why why do you laugh at my

957
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,000
score?
I sit here and I listen to you,

958
00:52:35,700 --> 00:52:38,400
give something a six and a half
and I'm like, oh, I respected my

959
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,900
good man.
And I'm like, I'm going to share

960
00:52:40,900 --> 00:52:44,700
the opinion that everyone else
on Earth who has tasted movies

961
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,500
thinks of this and you're like,
Bahahaha.

962
00:52:47,700 --> 00:52:52,000
I don't understand you man.
Nine and a half by that is a

963
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,200
knight and a half out of ten.
Such a high score.

964
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,600
Did you just take the L on this
one?

965
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,500
You're the only one who thinks
this brat.

966
00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:04,900
I'm just, I'm just being
everyone else loves this movie.

967
00:53:04,900 --> 00:53:08,200
My honestly, I was expecting you
after that description, to give

968
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,900
it like an 8 and a half, or a 9
and other than like yeah, yeah,

969
00:53:10,900 --> 00:53:12,900
sure.
Eight and a half nine, I get it.

970
00:53:12,900 --> 00:53:16,100
Do you think that it of all it
with the number of movies?

971
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,600
I've seen if I say something is
in the top hundred ever, you

972
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,500
really think?
I'm gonna be like, yeah, eight

973
00:53:21,500 --> 00:53:25,400
one week ago.
You gave Schindler's List, a

974
00:53:25,408 --> 00:53:28,800
nine and a half?
Yes, this because it's not a

975
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:33,200
perfect movie.
This movie is not like I said,

976
00:53:33,300 --> 00:53:35,700
eight and a half to nine like,
okay sure.

977
00:53:35,700 --> 00:53:38,000
I could maybe respect that,
that's fine.

978
00:53:38,300 --> 00:53:41,200
But like, I don't know, man, I
don't, half is really high.

979
00:53:41,900 --> 00:53:45,500
What a 9.25.
Make you settle down a little

980
00:53:45,500 --> 00:53:47,900
bit.
No, I would I would laugh.

981
00:53:47,900 --> 00:53:50,600
I'm just as and I'm plowing
ahead with my 9 and a half that

982
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:55,500
is taking that's taking our
average score to an 8 out of 10,

983
00:53:55,700 --> 00:53:59,100
which is really right in line.
Where with IMDb has this movie,

984
00:53:59,100 --> 00:54:02,000
an eight point, two out of 10,
this is a very high-ranking

985
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,000
movie.
It's number 137 on the IMDB's

986
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,400
top 250 Brad.
So once again, all of the world

987
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,100
as opposed to you on this and
your objectively wrong.

988
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,400
Filming whiskey Nation.
You are welcome for getting Bob

989
00:54:16,700 --> 00:54:18,900
to flip out.
I got it.

990
00:54:18,900 --> 00:54:21,200
I did it just don't laugh at me.
That's the thing.

991
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,500
It's like you know you can
disagree just just don't laugh

992
00:54:24,500 --> 00:54:27,400
at me.
This is serious business.

993
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,300
My friend.
We want to know what you have to

994
00:54:30,300 --> 00:54:36,100
say about this serious business.
So give us your thoughts, send

995
00:54:36,100 --> 00:54:38,400
us some stuff.
Hit us up on Facebook,

996
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:44,100
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997
00:54:44,100 --> 00:54:47,500
give us a call, please call in
and just just berate Brad.

998
00:54:47,500 --> 00:54:51,500
Just I mean, ad hominem attacks,
just make fun of his height,

999
00:54:51,500 --> 00:54:55,500
whatever, whatever it takes to
make him cry a little, you can

1000
00:54:55,500 --> 00:54:58,900
you can leave us a voicemail on
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1001
00:54:58,900 --> 00:55:02,600
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1002
00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:04,800
Next week.
We will be back with a movie

1003
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,900
that I hope to God, Brad doesn't
dislike, because it is one of my

1004
00:55:08,900 --> 00:55:11,200
favorite films of all time.
I'm gonna put myself out there,

1005
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,600
bro.
At one of my favorite films of

1006
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,000
all time and a movie that I
think might actually be perfect

1007
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,000
it's Bill easily.
Just want to give it a 10 out of

1008
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,600
10 now.
Yeah it's a 10-cent.

1009
00:55:20,700 --> 00:55:24,600
All right well it's a 4 out of
10 Billy Wilder's best movie

1010
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,700
ever 1960s the apartment.
So we'll be back with that next

1011
00:55:28,700 --> 00:55:32,900
week but until then I'm Bob
book, I'm Brad G and we'll see

1012
00:55:32,900 --> 00:55:33,600
you next time.