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That's the OCS whisky.com in
1986 director, James Cameron,

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and star Sigourney Weaver gave
the world.

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An action packed sequel.
That nearly sucks your face off

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in 2022.
We take a trip to Virginia to

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try a uniquely distilled.
Whiskey, the film is aliens.

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The whiskey is Jon, Jay Bowman
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them both.
This is the film and whiskey

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podcast.
Cast,

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welcome to the film and whiskey
podcast.

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Where each week, we review a
classic movie and a glass of

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whiskey.
I'm Bob book, I'm Reggie and

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this week we are looking at
James Cameron's. 86 sci-fi

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horror action, Masterpiece
aliens.

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I'm not gonna lie Brad.
I had this kind of circled on

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the schedule this year because
this movie just goes so freaking

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hard, dude.
Like, I don't know.

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I will probably sound more like
a bro today than I've ever

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sounded in the history of our
podcast because there is

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something that's just purely.
This movie is, like, pure

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adrenaline and it works and it
just like, I have, I have no

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notes.
I have no complaints.

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I'm just gonna sit here for the
next hour and bask in the glory

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of Jim Cameron's Direction.
Yeah, I mean, he just takes the

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first movie and turns it into an
action thriller, and it's

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perfect.
Yeah, and I love everything

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about it, you know, after this,
This week we're going to watch

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Terminator and Terminator 2.
James Cameron is a master at

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sequels.
It's just something that he's

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really good at developing themes
but also turning the, you know,

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like I don't say subverting I
hate when people use that word

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but kind of turning things on
their head a little bit and we

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might as well start off talking
about the dip.

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The obvious difference is
between this movie and 1979's

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alien a film that we have done
on the show before Brad, I

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assume you have not Revisited
alien since we watched it a

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couple of years ago.
I have not no.

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Do you remember at least the
sort of General Vibe and rhythm

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of that movie.
I mean yeah that was a very I

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don't know it's a
straightforward horror movie

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because it's very high-end
sci-fi to like they crash.

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They find that empty space ship
with the gigantic dead alien

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skeleton in it.
They're like what the hell's

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going on and then the Xenomorphs
happen and there's a ton of

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like, I don't know, unspoken
mythology.

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She going on in the alien
universe.

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That never really gets expanded
on until Ridley.

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Scott comes back and does his
sequels, you know, in the, in

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the 2000s, but in this man until
Prometheus rights answer, all

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the questions nobody was asking,
I am not a fan of Prometheus.

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I know a lot of people like,
think it's a Sci-Fi Masterpiece,

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but I am much more in the gym
Cameron like fold because what

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he did was, he said, you know
what?

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Somebody gave me a suggestion.
Like, literally, if you go on

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this movie, Wikipedia page it
says that he wrote a

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40-something page treatment for
this movie based on the

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suggestion Ripley and soldiers.
That was like the whole theme of

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the movie.
And that's what Jim Cameron was.

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Like, yes, he went off and wrote
the treatment for this movie and

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by God, he did it, man.
This movie is freaking great and

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this is exactly what a sequel to
a movie.

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Like, alien should be.
Yeah, I mean, he takes the theme

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of a horror film.
He tweaks it a little bit.

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He adds a little bit of calm.
Bat an action and yet you still

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have the elements of horror and
fear just Rippling throughout

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this movie and it.
Yeah, I think we need to get

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into bread explains before we
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this.
All right.

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Well then let's go ahead and do
a quick segue into Brad explains

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America's favorite segment of
our show.

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This is where Brad breaks down
the plot of the film that he has

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just seen often for the first
time.

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Brad was this your first time
checking out aliens.

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It sure was Robert.
All right so what we do here is

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we put 60 seconds on the clock.
Brad has to break down the plot

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of the film.
You know.

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It's a simple plot but there's
also a lot that happens in this

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movie.
So I'm interested to hear where

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you go with your one minute of
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Brad, go.
Officer Ripley awakens after 57

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years in cryosleep, and she
finds out that there's a colony,

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where they had originally picked
up the alien that killed all of

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her.
Fellow crew members, the the

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colonizing company loses contact
with the colony so they send

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Ripley and a squad of Marines to
go investigate.

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Obviously, the aliens have taken
over the colony, and they have

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to fight for their survival to
escape from the planet.

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Hopefully, destroying the aliens
in the process.

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Hmm, boom, boom.
Literally atomic number, Atomic.

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Boom, man.
I don't even know where to start

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with this movie and I'm trying
to think of where the best place

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would be.
And I think maybe it's to talk

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about the writing of this film,
because we will be developing a

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theme here.
That James Cameron is not known

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for his dialogue writing.
And I think once again like the

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dialogue in this He's not
especially great, but everything

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about this movie is so Kurt and
matter-of-fact.

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And to the point that I feel
like the dialogue works a lot

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better here than it does in a
movie like Avatar where you're

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trying to build out sort of
fantasy elements.

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This movie is very much just
like military people barking

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orders at each other and people
trying not to get found by

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aliens.
So they're speaking in short

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sentences and I really thought
the dialogue here works.

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You know, for the most part at
least yeah and you get to see

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See, Sigourney Weaver fleshed
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A little more.
I enjoy the way that they bring

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back certain elements from the
first movie.

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The, the AI in this film I
thought was, was really well

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acted.
And honestly, out of all the

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Sci-Fi films I've ever seen, I
really love the way, the Cameron

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uses AI.
I think that he just has a

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really, they hold a really
unique position I suppose.

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Yeah.
And I think honestly, the great

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thing about this script Brad is
the way that this movie is

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structured because, you know,
it's slightly over two hours.

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It's about 2 hours and 15
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And you do not see an alien in
this movie until the one-hour

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Mark.
Like, there is a long build-up

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to the aliens.
I wouldn't say that this movie

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is ever slow-paced or boring.
There's just a ton of background

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that Cameron is trying to build
two and he's flushing out the

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character of Ripley.
He's introducing you to the

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evils of this Corporation.
He's introducing you to this

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small Platoon that she's going
to be dropped in with and they

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really do a great job of
building the suspense.

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Because having watched the first
alien you come into this movie,

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expecting lots of alien kills
and you're not getting any for

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an hour.
And then all of a sudden, it's

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like, hey, what if we had 100
aliens, I just, I just love the

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idea of people.
Somebody being, like, James

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Cameron, what's the solution
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We're stuck.
We had a great movie about an

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alien and he's like, no, no, no,
I got it.

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Hey, Lee Anne, Burrell, we need
a plurality are likely and no.

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Okay to aliens and he's just
like more like it.

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They just keep talking him
upright.

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But use, I mean, you see this
colony of aliens and Cameron.

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Does this great thing where you
know, you're now going into the

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aliens territory.
Where is the first movies about

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an alien kind of invading
somebody else's territory.

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Now you've got this, this crew
going into the bowels of an

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Alien Hive.
I've and it's so cool.

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How he, how his mind thinks
about how the eggs are laid and

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everything else, but you know,
obviously what gets all that I

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guess.
I just want to hear your

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thoughts Brad on the the way
this movie is structured.

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The, the build up to that big
payoff.

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I think that there's like a ton
of things that people have

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ripped off from this movie.
Since then, in terms of like

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slow, slow slow build.
And then like the last hour is

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pretty much non-stop action and
horror and there's you know,

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there's false endings there's I
mean, I guess it keeps you going

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until the very last second and I
think it all comes back to

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Cameron's.
Really, strong ability to know

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exactly how I don't know how
tense things need to be.

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Like he really feels like he is
orchestrating and conducting

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this kind of thing to make sure
that the Rhythm keep space.

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I think that's the key to this
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Bob is the Rhythm you never are
allowed to rest and relax and

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even Even at the start of the
film five minutes in, you have

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Ripley having a nightmare of the
alien bursting from her own

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belly and it's just enough
action to like kind of put you

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on the edge of your seat and
you're never really able to find

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your way back from there.
I think that Paul Reiser does an

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incredible job.
He has such a beautiful

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mannerism about him.
That he's so soft and gentle and

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kind that you never fully.
See it coming how evil he is

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going to be, and I think that
the dialogue between he and

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Sigourney Weaver near the start
of the movie and throughout the

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middle, I think that they really
carry this film in a lot of the

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ways, as a lot of the Marines
are just being Bros and doing

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ridiculous Marine things.
Yeah, if you will, I'm glad you

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brought up Paul Reiser and it's
really funny that we brought up

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Paul Reiser before we brought
up, Sigourney Weaver.

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But, you know, if there's anyone
in this cast, who steals scenes

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away from sin, Ernie Weaver.
That isn't an alien.

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It's Paul Reiser.
He just such a good job of, you

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know.
And by the time they kind of

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find out that he is as evil as
he actually is and they have him

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cornered and they're about to
shoot him and he's just like oh

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this is ridiculous.
You know, and he does such a

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great job of embodying, a guy
who eat, you can't even

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convincingly talk his way out of
a being about to get shot.

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You know what I mean?
Like, he is just Sleazy and she

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calls him Sleazy and he Don't
come across as the sleazy

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businessman, because he's so
much smarter and so much more

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underhanded than that.
I thought he did a phenomenal

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job in this movie.
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And and really, he and Sigourney
Weaver are the reason this movie

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works.
And I think it's why you look at

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a lot of the later, aliens
movies, you know, they're just

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not quite as good and that's me
just solely basing it on IMDB

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ratings and what I've heard from
my friends but What you have

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here two actors who know exactly
what they're going for in the

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role and they for me they just
had really sincere performances

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and you know, Paul Reiser is
awesome.

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Sigourney, Weaver is incredible
ever.

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Next slide.
I mean that genuinely I would

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say she has one of the best
performances of anyone this

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whole season in an 80s sci-fi.
Be well.

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And that's the thing, too.
Is you look at her character in

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Alien, right?
She is, I can't remember exactly

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what her role is in the crew in
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one of them, right?
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something and she ends up being
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Yeah.
That's kind of who she is.

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And she does a great job at it
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she kicks a little bit of ass
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know, someone who is dealing
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Trauma, someone who is Longing
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Somebody who is then like, hey,
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have to be an action hero and
never e single beat of that

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character development is
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And, you know, again, Cameron is
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lifting with his script there.
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She's just that good.
And we've been kind of texting

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back and forth, Brad about like,
we're going to talk about

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Sigourney Weaver.
What makes her so special and

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it's really hard to put In
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Because she does so many things.
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that's kind of the answer,
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She can be whatever you need,
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She is.
She's very slender and feminine

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so she can play in like a
romantic comedy.

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She's in the movie working.
Girl.

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Just a fantastic job in that
movie, but she's also like 6

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feet tall and so when she picks
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and smashes him into a wall
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believable like she's not super
buff but she's in very good

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shape and just Just her sheer
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screen and so when she's asked
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because she's, you know,
overpowering people would sheer

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Brute Force.
But the fact that she is able to

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kind of balance like this
physicality of, I am slender and

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and you know, traditionally
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never unbelievable.
Like there are very few people

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in the history of Cinema who
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Yeah, and her, I think, what I
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that she plays the protagonist
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be a male role with such
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emotion to draw upon as she is
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girl that they found as she's
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yet, stay calm, and cool headed
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I honestly, I was watching with
my buddy, Stephen and he pointed

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out that it feels like Brie
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type character in in Captain
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Hmm.
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it off.
She is all lifeless, all cool.

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All cold and there's not enough
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like her character.
Whereas whereas Sigourney Weaver

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as Ripley, it like it's so easy
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protagonist because of the
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Well and I think honestly, that
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screenwriter here because he
builds in those layers and Brad

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I don't know which version of
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theatrical version and then in
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So for years after it came out,
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director's cut.
And here's the crazy thing about

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this director's cut, it's
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shorter than the theatrical cut.
Hey, let's go.

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Cameron just like earned a few
points in my book right there.

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And the biggest difference is is
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Like he just kind of like
tinkered with a few little

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things but in the very early
scenes, where she's been rescued

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From her floating ship the
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rehabilitating.
They tell her that.

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She had a she said something
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She had a daughter on Earth who
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And she said that she told her
daughter that she would be back

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before her 11th birthday.
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long she's been gone?
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time, span her daughter's gotten
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character of Ripley to have

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this, Maternal Arc throughout
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So I don't know which version
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I watch the theatrical version.
I did as well.

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If you don't remember you having
a say, if you don't remember

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that line then you didn't watch
the director's cut.

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But even without that very
obvious set up like you still

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get the idea of Ripley longing
to have some, you know, she has

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the maternal Instinct but also
wanting to be a mother to

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somebody.
And that's a theme that goes all

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through this movie, even to like
the final showdown, with the

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alien queen like they they very
clearly I only have this thing

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in common which is don't f with
my daughter, right?

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And it's because of that that
they're able to get real true

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emotion out of that character
because otherwise she does just

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kind of become this.
This badass, you know military

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chick that she kind of becomes
in the latter sequels to this

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movie and Cameron does such a
fantastic job of building those

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character arcs in and I mean I
have to give him credit.

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Obviously she Exit, but he built
them in and that's what's

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missing from so many
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especially like female
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I think that it, but on top of
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there, and it gives this
maternal Instinct.

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I think that Cameron does a
really great job of using the

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camera to highlight the
relationship between the two.

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And I think that Weaver as an
actress just as a really great

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job of connecting with, you
know, the, the Young Male

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character of Newt and they just
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doesn't work without it because,

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you know, there's a lot of other
Sci-Fi movies that have tried to

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do that and maybe it just works,
because this is an early example

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of it.
But man, I love the way that

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Weaver interacts, with Newt,
throughout the film.

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And the, especially in, like the
scene where the where Paul

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Reiser has released the I don't
know the Facehugger when we want

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to call it.
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And into the room where they're
sleeping and she's like, beating

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on the window, trying to get
somebody's attention and she

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realizes she can set up the fire
alarm and the way that she

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protects Newt in that scene is
just really Charming in the

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midst of a horrifying scene.
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And again, like, I'm going to
keep coming back to the fact,

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you know, honestly, I there are
times where I kind of get

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conflated these two movies alien
and aliens.

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And I honestly forgot that the
Facehugger thing was in Aliens.

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I was thinking it was in the
first one for some reason and

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this movie never feels episodic
but it's also one of those

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things where like if you know,
if you walked into the room and

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it was on and you came in at the
right time, you're like, oh

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they're going to do this thing
now.

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And I'm going to sit here and
watch it until the end of the

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movie.
Because there's like, five more

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incredible action set pieces
from here and like, you think

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that the movie is about, to hit,
just a little bit of a lull,

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which is the Calm before the
storm of when the Aliens arrive

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and even in that moment.
Cameron's like, nope, you like I

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am not letting you relax at all,
this movie is going to be tense

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AF until we're done.
And that Facehugger thing, that

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that like, that's the best
jump-scare in the whole movie.

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When that thing flies at her,
what she like picks her head up

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over the bed and it flies at
her, I jumped 11 feet.

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I have never jumped that far in
my life and I've seen this movie

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multiple times, it's so
effective and I'm gonna keep

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coming back to like a A camera's
ability to direct the hell out

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of a horror scene.
We talked about it in Titanic,

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we talked about it in Avatar,
we're going to talk about it,

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obviously here.
Because this is where it's, I

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mean, this is like the
Fulfillment of that, but it's

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his screen, we're like his
script writing for this movie.

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The introduction of the
character of Newt is out of

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nowhere.
Like, the last thing you are

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expecting to find, because we've
spent an hour with only Ripley

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and only these military people.
And there's this very Extended

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sequence of them kind of like
storming the complex and its

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really quiet because they don't
want to disturb anything and

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then they start getting a beep
on the tracker and you don't

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think there's going to be a
human child introduced into this

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movie at the one hour mark.
But once again, it's like

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something that Cameron throws in
there and it takes the movie on

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a completely different
trajectory and it's incredible

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that he's able to do that with
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and still land the plane.
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And that and that's the key
thing, right?

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That he's able All to bring it
to such a satisfying conclusion.

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There's the reconciliation
between Ripley and the AI.

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There is an awesome final
battle.

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There's the payoff of her being
able to, you know, use this

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heavy loader Machinery.
In a really slow paced battle

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that that might have been the
worst part of the movie, but

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it's just all it's just such a
good payoff at the end of the

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film to see them going back into
And heading back to Earth.

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Yeah, that that fight scene at
the end is probably the most

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iconic moment in the movie which
is her emerging from that

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elevator in the suit and sinks,
you know, get away from her.

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You bitch, I don't like it's an
amazing moment.

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And then you have to watch like
the fact that the Hydraulics and

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this thing do not move quickly
at all.

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No, and it's a good thing, that
that alien queen is the least

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agile creature because that is
like that was it was very Very

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much, a like, Obi-Wan and Darth
Vader.

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That was thinking, like, like,
at the old old Godzilla movies,

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where it was just like, people
in, like zip up costumes that

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were like inflated, trying to
fight each other.

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Hmm, every once in a while at
the minor league, baseball

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stadium in Akron, they, they do
like, Sumo wrestles in between

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Innings and it reminds me of
that problems minor league.

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They do this Grand.
They wear like, the inflatable

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Sumo costumes and they have to
run at each other.

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And they kind of Bounds and then
they fall on the ground and they

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can't get up because they're
just rolling.

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It reminded me of that a little
bit but honestly, it's still

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worth it for the emotional
payoff.

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Yeah, no. 100% I think that that
is probably the only misstep in

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the action sequences of the
movie, that really makes it feel

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a little bit old.
Other than that.

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Bob, we've talked about this
being a great and intense horror

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film.
I think the action sequences in

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this, our Just incredible.
This is one of the best action

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movies of all time and I have
been trying to pin down how to

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talk about James Cameron action
as opposed to anybody else.

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You know, our friend Patrick H
Williams has a great video about

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this and even he kind of
struggles to put into words,

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like, what is it about Cameron
versus his peers, right?

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It's not, it's certainly not as
chaotic as Michael Bay or is

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kinetic, as Michael Bay.
He doesn't move the camera

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itself as much as Spielberg
does.

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In a scene and you don't have
like this this sense of kind of

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static geography with him
either.

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Like there are a lot of really
rapid Cuts with Cameron like you

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would see with Michael Bay but
whereas with Michael Bay, it's

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disorienting and incoherent
sometimes with Cameron, you

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always have a sense of where you
are.

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Like he establishes the
geography even if he's not, you

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know, using a really long
extended takes to do so or shots

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to do so.
And I think Patrick Williams

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kind of hit it on the head in
his video, He just says, like

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it's really direct.
It's like there are no frills to

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his action scenes, they're just
shot as matter-of-factly as

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possible and there's not a lot
of like over stylization to

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them.
Even an avatar where everything

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is as computer-generated and
they're pretty elaborate you

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know like things flying and
dragons and everything else.

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Like the way the scenes are shot
is, here's the information do

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with it.
What you will?

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You know what I mean?
And I actually really love that

446
00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:23,500
about Cameron because he trusts
the audience to see what they're

447
00:25:23,500 --> 00:25:26,400
supposed to see.
He's not spoon-feeding anything

448
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,400
to you, but he's also not
calling a ton of attention to

449
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,700
himself with the way he films
it.

450
00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:36,000
And I think the other thing for
me is that he continues to use

451
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,600
the little horror touches in the
midst of the action scenes,

452
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:46,000
where you get a nice hard bit of
action and then a short scene of

453
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,500
them, like, Leaping through the
hallway, you know, waiting for

454
00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:54,400
something else to Ambush them or
you have them stumble into the

455
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,200
egg room look around.
See multiple aliens coming in

456
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,400
and see the alien queen like
stare them down and there's this

457
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:07,000
standoff, and I think it's
moments like that, that they

458
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:12,500
help that they almost help.
Give little beats to the action

459
00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:16,100
that give the audience just
enough of a break to dive back

460
00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:19,400
into the next sequence.
There are a number of really

461
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,700
great ocean moments in this
movie.

462
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,800
And I remember a Brad, I didn't
see this movie for the first

463
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,000
time until I'd say, I don't know
two years ago.

464
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,300
It was right around the time.
I remember this we recorded the

465
00:26:31,300 --> 00:26:35,000
warrior podcast because I was
house-sitting for somebody and I

466
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,100
watch Warrior for the podcast
and then I watched aliens for

467
00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:42,200
the first time that night.
And I remember at the house all

468
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,400
to myself so I could talk freely
out loud.

469
00:26:44,700 --> 00:26:48,100
It was one of the few times in
my life where a movie had a

470
00:26:48,108 --> 00:26:50,800
scene that I didn't know was
coming and something happened in

471
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,700
that scene and I was like oh
sure like out loud and it

472
00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:58,700
happened it seems that.
So for me it happened a couple

473
00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:01,300
times like this viewing even
though I knew it was coming but

474
00:27:01,300 --> 00:27:04,900
the first really good one is
right towards the end where Newt

475
00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:08,400
is kind of down in the sewer
system and then the alien like

476
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,200
rises from behind Her I'm like
oh that's not good.

477
00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:14,800
But the one that really gets me
is when they're running and

478
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,800
trying to get back to the ship
at the end and they realize that

479
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,800
they've kind of stumbled into
the nest and they see all all

480
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,100
the eggs in your like, oh this
is not good and over the course

481
00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:28,300
of about 45 seconds, they slowly
come to realize their

482
00:27:28,300 --> 00:27:31,600
surroundings and they turn
around and you get the first

483
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,400
shot of the alien queen and it
is so much bigger than any alien

484
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,500
that you've seen across four
hours of these movies now, And

485
00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:44,300
like they're just looking up at
it and it is slowly looking down

486
00:27:44,300 --> 00:27:49,600
at them and I was just like, oh,
look like how on Earth do you

487
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,900
get out of this scenario?
It's such.

488
00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:55,400
It's such good filmmaking.
There's so many great reveals in

489
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,700
this movie and he really plays
his cards close to the chest.

490
00:27:58,700 --> 00:28:02,500
It's a simple story, but he's
always got something more.

491
00:28:02,500 --> 00:28:04,400
One more trick up his sleeve
before.

492
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,100
He'll let you off the roller
coaster.

493
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,500
Yeah, it's an incredibly kinetic
movie.

494
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,500
She that I think we have a lot
more to say about it Bob, but at

495
00:28:13,500 --> 00:28:15,900
this point, I need to drink some
whiskey, man.

496
00:28:16,300 --> 00:28:17,100
Let's do it.
Let's drink this.

497
00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:18,000
John J.
Bowman.

498
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,400
What do you say?
I'm ready, man.

499
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:27,300
Let's do it.
Alright so today we are trying,

500
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:34,700
John J, Bowman Single Barrel,
Bourbon whiskey, the J period.

501
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,800
I assume stands for
Jingleheimer, that's a yes,

502
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,500
right obvious, I think that's
pretty we all know this right?

503
00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:45,600
John Jingleheimer Bowman.
Yeah this is actually named

504
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:50,900
after, it was a family of
Bowman's that fought in, I

505
00:28:50,900 --> 00:28:54,700
believe.
The Civil War and upon their

506
00:28:54,700 --> 00:28:59,000
retirements, they settled in
Virginia and started a

507
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,500
Distillery.
Yeah.

508
00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:03,600
So, the Bowman Distillery is a
pretty big Distillery that was

509
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,700
bought out, by Sazerac way, back
in like 03.

510
00:29:06,700 --> 00:29:10,900
I think they have an interesting
production story, especially

511
00:29:10,900 --> 00:29:12,300
this.
What we're drinking today.

512
00:29:12,700 --> 00:29:14,900
So this is, like I said, is a
single barrel that they bottle

513
00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:18,100
at 100 Proof.
However, what is in the bottle

514
00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:22,400
was not made was not.
I don't know what the word.

515
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,400
It's not that I want.
Don't say distilled, it was a

516
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,700
created in Virginia.
It was not created at this.

517
00:29:27,700 --> 00:29:30,600
Distillery, it is a Buffalo
Trace product.

518
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,800
So, Buffalo Trace has their new
make, that comes off the Stills,

519
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,000
you know, what we would call
white dog, and it gets sent to

520
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,000
the Bowman distillery in
Virginia.

521
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,700
Now, what what the rumor is
that, that is twice distilled

522
00:29:45,900 --> 00:29:49,200
before it's sent to Virginia and
then they put it through their

523
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,400
Stills one more time and they're
still It's just kind of give it

524
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,100
a little bit of a funk, a little
bit of something different.

525
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,300
And so then they can say that
they distilled some of this, you

526
00:29:58,300 --> 00:30:03,100
know, to some extent in Virginia
and it is aged totally on

527
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:05,700
premises in Virginia.
So even though it's made by

528
00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:10,000
Buffalo Trace, it's then kind of
imported to Virginia distilled.

529
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:15,800
Once more, I Brad, honestly, I
don't, I don't know what more

530
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,200
that imparts to this because I
haven't tried it yet.

531
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,500
It's sitting in front of me.
I think it's a really

532
00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:22,800
interesting.
Rata gee, I don't quite

533
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,000
understand why they're not just
producing their own new make and

534
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,000
I have to read up more on The
Distillery for that.

535
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,600
But you know, when we come into
some of these whiskey reviews,

536
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,200
it's not that we want to come in
blind, but even me just saying

537
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,600
the words, Buffalo Trace made
this right now.

538
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:42,000
May have tainted your opinion of
this a little bit.

539
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,900
And so, you know, we want to
judge what's in the glass and

540
00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:50,500
not necessarily rely on a
history lesson or, you know, to

541
00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:52,700
give context.
Round is this tasty?

542
00:30:52,700 --> 00:30:56,200
Or is it not tasty?
As I say, luckily for mr.

543
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,400
John Jingleheimer.
Bowman here.

544
00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:02,000
I already gave my scores, so I'm
not going to knock down any

545
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,700
points because if I'm being
honest with you, Bob, this is a

546
00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:08,000
daggone good whiskey.
So yeah, let's just jump right

547
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,500
in man.
You've already scored this out.

548
00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:12,100
I'm trying it for the first time
and I just stuck my nose in the

549
00:31:12,108 --> 00:31:14,600
glass here.
Now again, I know that this was

550
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,400
distilled by Buffalo Trace, but
the nose on this smells

551
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,200
remarkably similar to Eagle
Rare, which used to be my

552
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,000
Favorite whiskey like one of the
Whiskey's that got me into

553
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,500
whiskey there is that kind of
patented Buffalo Trace oakiness

554
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:31,500
to this?
It's not like on the level of a

555
00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:34,500
Woodford Double Oak.
It still has the sort of classic

556
00:31:34,500 --> 00:31:38,800
bourbon notes, underlying all of
it but it smells like Eagle

557
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,800
Rare.
I honestly, like, I don't even

558
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,800
know if I have many more notes
to give on the nose here.

559
00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:46,500
Yeah, for me, it was Vanilla.
Peanut butter, a little bit of

560
00:31:46,500 --> 00:31:49,800
toffee.
It's a very nice.

561
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,600
Not The in any way, not super
complex knows, I gave it an 8

562
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,200
out of 10.
Yeah.

563
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,300
There is a little bit of like,
really strong fruitiness to this

564
00:32:01,300 --> 00:32:04,200
to that comes through right at
the end, almost like a bright

565
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,200
green.
Apple kind of granny smith thing

566
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,200
that isn't usually, they're on
equal rare for me.

567
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,200
So it's a nice addition.
I'm going to go ahead and give

568
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,600
it an 8 as well.
Brad, yeah.

569
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,500
And then you get into the
palette here, once again,

570
00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:19,800
vanilla peanut butter.
And then, for me, it almost

571
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,800
turned into like a cream.
Um, soda with a little bit of

572
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,800
Oak at the end.
I once again, I have nothing to

573
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,200
complain about here.
Bob, it is a really Pleasant

574
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,700
palette and I think 100 proof is
just the right alcohol point for

575
00:32:34,700 --> 00:32:38,400
this.
It just has enough of a kick

576
00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:41,000
that all of the flavors really
pop.

577
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,600
So I'll give it an eight and a
half out of ten on the flavor.

578
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,900
Brad, I don't know how to score
this on the flavor, the palette.

579
00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:51,200
I thought, I knew where this was
going and all through the

580
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,800
tasting experience.
I was like, yep.

581
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,300
Yep, yep.
Checking all those boxes and

582
00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:58,800
then I swallowed it and I felt
like the flavor took a 180.

583
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,500
Now, that's not to say, it's
bad.

584
00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:02,700
It's not to say it went from
like, oh, this is really

585
00:33:02,700 --> 00:33:05,100
enjoyable or even predictable.
And then it went to

586
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:08,000
unpredictable.
It just kind of like I went to

587
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,000
swallow and I thought, okay, the
sweetness is going to hit me now

588
00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:14,100
and it really never turned
sweets.

589
00:33:14,300 --> 00:33:18,600
Is a very vague mild sweetness
on the tip of the palate, like

590
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,900
the tip of the tongue and the
mid palate and then you go to

591
00:33:20,900 --> 00:33:24,500
swallow it, it's like all Oak
and then kind of strong

592
00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:26,900
graininess for me.
It almost turned a little bit

593
00:33:26,900 --> 00:33:31,200
sour at the end and I wasn't
expecting that at all.

594
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,000
So I'm struggling with this a
little bit.

595
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,500
I took two sips, just to make
sure that it wasn't just because

596
00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:38,900
my palate wasn't acclimated, but
I think that's kind of just what

597
00:33:38,900 --> 00:33:41,500
we're dealing with here.
I'm struggling to remember when

598
00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:44,200
we did Eagle Rare.
The last time I feel like I I

599
00:33:44,208 --> 00:33:47,100
had some of these same
complaints about Eagle Rare and

600
00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:49,900
so maybe it's in line with that.
But it's even more pronounced

601
00:33:49,900 --> 00:33:52,100
here.
I'm not the world's biggest fan

602
00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:53,300
of this dude.
I think I'm going to give it a

603
00:33:53,308 --> 00:33:56,800
six and a half on the flavor,
man.

604
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,300
Bob that is that surprising to
me for me, on the finish, it

605
00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:04,400
started to change.
I got a little bit of Oak, some

606
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,800
leather, some pepper, the
vanilla kept coming through for

607
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,000
me.
I give it an 8 out of 10 on the

608
00:34:10,007 --> 00:34:13,300
finish.
I I'm really surprised that this

609
00:34:13,300 --> 00:34:18,100
kind of soured I knew I did not
get any grainy sour notes on the

610
00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:20,900
finish at all and it lingered
for a long time.

611
00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:24,199
After I drink it with some just
really nice pleasant, sweet

612
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:27,400
notes.
Yeah, maybe it's not graininess.

613
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,900
I'm taking a third and fourth
step.

614
00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:33,300
Here it almost gets.
I don't know what the word is,

615
00:34:33,300 --> 00:34:36,400
man.
Like a, she like when you, when

616
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,000
you smell a really rank
cigarette and like, they almost

617
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,000
leaves a flavor on your tongue.
I kind of get that a little bit.

618
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,400
It's just like, really her on
the end for me.

619
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:48,699
So the Finish is probably my
least favorite part because it's

620
00:34:48,699 --> 00:34:52,900
like hey remember that Aunt that
you don't like hanging out with

621
00:34:52,900 --> 00:34:57,500
that smelt, that smokes too many
Marlboros like this is that you

622
00:34:57,500 --> 00:34:59,800
can hear me kind of struggling
with.

623
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,100
You know the alcohol is very
present on the palate and

624
00:35:03,100 --> 00:35:06,100
especially on the Finish.
Not my cup of tea, man, I'm

625
00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:07,700
going to give it a six out of
ten again here.

626
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,300
We are going to be in vastly
different places Bob on the

627
00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:14,100
balance.
For me, it wasn't.

628
00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:18,400
Right complex enough to really
hit the upper echelons but it

629
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,400
was incredibly consistent and
really tasty on my end.

630
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,000
So I give it a 9 out of 10 on
balance.

631
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,400
Wow.
Yeah, I'm going to give it a six

632
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,400
again here and I suppose, it's
probably more balanced than

633
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,600
that, but I don't enjoy where it
goes.

634
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:37,100
And so, I'm kind of like, I'll
follow you down whatever whole

635
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:40,100
Rabbit Hole, you're going down
here, but it's going to be a 6

636
00:35:40,100 --> 00:35:43,100
for me, dog.
And then that takes us to Value

637
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:45,600
Brad.
And I don't know what this is

638
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,200
currently selling at in the
state of Ohio.

639
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,300
Did you pull up the, the pricing
list here?

640
00:35:50,300 --> 00:35:52,800
I don't think it's actually sold
in Ohio.

641
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,500
Oh, wow.
I know they sell some products

642
00:35:55,500 --> 00:35:58,400
from The Bowman, distillery in
Ohio, but apparently not, this

643
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,900
single barrel.
Yeah.

644
00:35:59,900 --> 00:36:03,100
So this is actually not sold in
the state of Ohio Bob.

645
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:05,800
The, the only one that they sell
in Ohio is Bowman Brothers,

646
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,500
small batch, okay.
In Virginia and online, it seems

647
00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:16,300
to be for sale for $50, okay?
All right, so I mean, here's the

648
00:36:16,300 --> 00:36:18,800
thing.
It's like, do you like Buffalo

649
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,900
Trace products?
Here's one for you that is

650
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:25,700
technically sold out of
Virginia, but if you know you

651
00:36:25,700 --> 00:36:30,300
can't find Elmer T Li you can't
find Eagle Rare, maybe you can

652
00:36:30,300 --> 00:36:33,500
find a bottle of this somewhere.
And I imagine this is probably

653
00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:36,400
receiving the bump of Buffalo
Trace.

654
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,900
Like people are probably seeking
this out now that they know

655
00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:41,700
where it comes from.
So at 50 bucks, even though I

656
00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:45,000
don't like it that much, you
know, it's probably we more

657
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,400
available and it's probably a
comparable price point to

658
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,100
Something Like an Eagle Rare.
I don't think this is a terrible

659
00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:51,500
value Brad.
I'm going to give it a seven and

660
00:36:51,500 --> 00:36:55,900
a half on value.
Yeah, I think that at $50 to get

661
00:36:55,900 --> 00:36:59,600
a single barrel of this quality.
I'm going to give it a 9 out of

662
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,400
10.
I think it's a really solid

663
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,000
value if you're able to find it.
Now, once again, I think we do

664
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,300
need to give the clarification
and the sort of reminder that

665
00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:13,200
this is a single barrel.
This might not be exactly the

666
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,600
flavor profile that you would
get.

667
00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:17,700
It from Barrel to Barrel maybe
you know like I said I think

668
00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:20,300
it's a little aggressive than a
little too over oaked.

669
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:22,900
We might not get that if we
tried a different barrel of this

670
00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:25,600
product but we can only really
review what's in front of us

671
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,900
here.
I'm coming out Brad to a 34 out

672
00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:30,300
of 50.
What are you coming, too?

673
00:37:30,900 --> 00:37:33,100
I think we might have the
biggest Gap we've ever had.

674
00:37:33,100 --> 00:37:36,200
I'm coming to a forty two point
five out of five.

675
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,200
Oh, wow.
All right.

676
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,500
So that brings us to a 76.5 out
of 100.

677
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:50,400
I just divided that by three
instead of or a 38-point 25 out

678
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,500
of 50.
I think it's a little high.

679
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,200
You probably think that's a
little low but like, again,

680
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:01,800
that's how math works.
So do you recommend your job

681
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:02,500
Bob?
Thank you, sir.

682
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,900
Do you recommend trying D
recommend buying?

683
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,200
Yeah, I'd say go for it.
I think this is a really solid

684
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,600
expression coming out of Bowman.
I really don't recommend this at

685
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,200
all.
However, If you're curious and

686
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,400
if you like Buffalo Trace
products then, yeah, get a poor

687
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,000
at the bar.
I don't know if I would

688
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,200
immediately say like, yes, plunk
down $50 for this.

689
00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:26,000
Although again, with the caveat
of like, if you like, Buffalo

690
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,100
Trace stuff, then you already
know how hard it is, to find

691
00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:31,200
Buffalo Trace stuff.
So it might just be worth

692
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,700
picking up the bottle of this
because this is close enough.

693
00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:37,000
So if that's you, yes, by a
bottle.

694
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,100
If you're curious, I think it's
worth tasting at the bar.

695
00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:41,500
You this will probably set you
back.

696
00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:44,600
What do you think Brad like 11?
There's a poor.

697
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,200
Yeah, I would say 10 to 15.
Yeah, like somewhere in that

698
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,500
area, it's worth it.
So go ahead and try it at the

699
00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:52,100
bar and if you already know that
you're going to like it because

700
00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:54,600
it's a Buffalo Trace product,
then go ahead and grab a bottle.

701
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,500
If you can find it but you're
right man we are coming out two

702
00:38:57,500 --> 00:38:59,000
very different places on this
whiskey.

703
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,400
Yeah it's wild.
I I feel like our palates in

704
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,800
general are somewhat similar but
hey, it's a beautiful thing when

705
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,300
you find something to disagree
on.

706
00:39:08,900 --> 00:39:11,700
Well hopefully we don't disagree
too much on this movie.

707
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,500
Let's get back into talking
about aliens.

708
00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:20,800
What do I say, let's get to it.
All right, everybody, that was

709
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:25,900
John J Bowman Single Barrel.
A whiskey that was really,

710
00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:29,000
really incredible and absolutely
nothing to complain about.

711
00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:32,100
Yeah, not one thing.
I feel about this whiskey.

712
00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:34,000
The way that you feel about the
movie Avatar.

713
00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:39,100
Hey man, I gave Avatar seven and
a half.

714
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,200
Yeah, this is fine.
I kind of came out to the same

715
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,800
place on this Mickey.
Yeah.

716
00:39:46,300 --> 00:39:48,600
Well, you know what?
Is a seven and a half out of ten

717
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:49,400
on this.
Cast.

718
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,300
Bob, what's that Brad to fax in
a falsehood?

719
00:39:53,300 --> 00:39:56,200
I love that you are, like, you
are desperately grasping for

720
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,200
anything to make a segue to
vaccinate falsehood.

721
00:40:00,300 --> 00:40:02,700
Hey, man, I'm just trying to
stay away from the fact that

722
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:04,200
you've been sucking it up
lately.

723
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,000
Dude, I suck so bad at this,
this season, I'm like actively

724
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,400
trying to find ways to just kill
this segment because it can't be

725
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,100
good audio at this point.
Well, it's crazy because you

726
00:40:15,100 --> 00:40:19,600
started off like Owen 6 and then
you were like eight and Seven

727
00:40:19,900 --> 00:40:24,200
and now I'm pretty sure you've
lost like four in a row, so it's

728
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,300
really good audio if you're into
like, you know, schadenfreude,

729
00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:30,600
like if you really, if you
really want to see Bob suffer,

730
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,400
then this is the segment for
you.

731
00:40:32,900 --> 00:40:36,000
That's why I created it.
This is where Brad presents

732
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,900
three items to me about the
making of This film, or

733
00:40:38,900 --> 00:40:41,400
something surrounding the film.
All of that are presented.

734
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,000
As fact, I have to pick, which
one is the falsehood?

735
00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:46,400
And I'm clearly not very good at
it.

736
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,800
So, Brad.
Go ahead and hit me with your

737
00:40:49,100 --> 00:40:54,000
Supposed facts, facts number
one, Bill Paxton became annoyed

738
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,100
with the constant breaks taken
by the British production crew

739
00:40:57,100 --> 00:41:00,600
of Pinewood Studios and began
playing pranks on them.

740
00:41:00,700 --> 00:41:04,800
His favorite of which was to add
salts to their sugar, thus

741
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:11,000
ruining their tea.
Fax number two, Bill Paxton

742
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,800
continuously apologized to
Carrie Hen playing Newt

743
00:41:14,900 --> 00:41:16,300
throughout the filming every
time.

744
00:41:16,300 --> 00:41:18,900
Hudson had to swear in front of
her carry later.

745
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,100
And that she didn't really mind
mainly because she did not know

746
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:25,600
what any of the words men.
It's a fax.

747
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,100
Number three, this is one of the
two films which Michael biehn

748
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,900
and Bill Paxton play roles where
they are on the same team.

749
00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:35,500
They're both Marines in this
movie and four years later, Navy

750
00:41:35,500 --> 00:41:39,500
Seals, they are Navy Seals
together in Tombstone, seven

751
00:41:39,500 --> 00:41:43,600
years later, they are enemies.
And they also appear together in

752
00:41:43,700 --> 00:41:46,000
the Terminator and the Lords of
discipline.

753
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,000
They definitely are in The
Terminator together.

754
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,300
It could say that much.
Um oh yeah, that sounds true.

755
00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:54,300
I don't know.
Well, I'll say that's true.

756
00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:56,300
It could be false.
Any of these could be false and

757
00:41:56,300 --> 00:41:57,600
I'm probably going to pick the
wrong one.

758
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,600
I'm gravitating towards number
one as the falsehood and I'll

759
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,200
tell you why.
Because, in our most recent

760
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,800
episode, The falsehood also had
something to do with T.

761
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,500
I think it was the Celia Johnson
in.

762
00:42:11,500 --> 00:42:13,000
Well, I guess that wasn't her
most recent episode.

763
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,700
It was the brief encounter 12
weeks ago.

764
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,100
You said that Celia Johnson was
real nervous and she wanted a

765
00:42:18,107 --> 00:42:21,100
specific kind of of tea, and the
tea was the falsehood.

766
00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:23,100
And so now I'm just like
attuned, that anytime I hear

767
00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:27,000
about tea, I'm like the only
thing Brad apparently knows

768
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,500
about British people is that
they drink tea, so if he's gonna

769
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:31,900
make something up, it's this one
that's it.

770
00:42:32,300 --> 00:42:34,200
Bill Paxton seemed like a good
dude.

771
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,000
So I'm going to say that number
two is true, just because I

772
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,200
really like Bill Paxton and I
want that to be true.

773
00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:42,800
So yeah, I'm going to say one,
is the falsehood Just for kicks

774
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:48,100
and Giggles here.
Bob you are Great.

775
00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:54,100
At breaking your streak today.
Hey, hey, you are correct.

776
00:42:54,100 --> 00:42:57,500
That was the falsehood.
Hey, I knew that your lack of

777
00:42:57,500 --> 00:43:01,000
knowledge about other cultures
would benefit me someday that

778
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,800
was it, man.
That's the funny thing is, I

779
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,700
honestly didn't even think about
the Tea thing from from Brief

780
00:43:06,700 --> 00:43:08,300
Encounter.
See now I can only get away with

781
00:43:08,300 --> 00:43:09,400
it.
Once now, you're going to, like,

782
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,000
it's going to be top of mind.
Whenever your eyes, there's

783
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,000
gonna be a tea related fact, in
every single week.

784
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:21,000
Now, All right, man.
Well, I'm back on track.

785
00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:22,800
I'm just going to say I'm over
500 again.

786
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,800
I know that's not true wishful
thinking.

787
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,700
All right, let's talk a little
bit about James Cameron again

788
00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:31,800
here.
So we're going to dive a little

789
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:36,300
bit deeper into trying to
analyze this man in the next two

790
00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:38,800
weeks because we're going to be
looking at two movies that he

791
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,800
made that are in direct relation
to each other in Terminator and

792
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,300
T2.
And I guess before we start

793
00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:48,500
psychoanalyzing, the guy, or
trying to find motivations or

794
00:43:48,700 --> 00:43:52,900
Really putting on trial, his
self-confidence.

795
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,000
I just want to say like the guy
knocks it out of the park here,

796
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,800
but you were coming off of
Avatar which is a movie that you

797
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:06,600
famously are not a huge fan of
and your your opinion of James

798
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,200
Cameron had been colored by and
now we're throwing it back to a

799
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,500
movie that is perhaps his most
purely entertaining movie and I

800
00:44:14,508 --> 00:44:18,500
just have to ask man like has
this rehabilitated His image.

801
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:25,000
For you any and like what themes
or what consistencies are you

802
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,100
seeing?
If any, I think the thing I

803
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:33,700
really appreciate about Cameron
is his ability to take really

804
00:44:33,700 --> 00:44:38,600
interesting characters and put
them in insanely stressful,

805
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:43,000
situations, and gives the
audience an opportunity to just

806
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,400
watch what comes out of those
characters.

807
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:50,500
And I think that you don't get
Add an avatar would?

808
00:44:50,700 --> 00:44:52,900
Well, I mean, you get the
stressful situation.

809
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,800
You just don't get interesting
characters and that's the

810
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,900
problem.
However, there's a really great

811
00:44:59,900 --> 00:45:02,000
movie called Titanic.
Hmm.

812
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,100
We haven't talked about Titanic
at all, but I think that aliens

813
00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:14,000
weirdly kind of has the same
setup as Titanic, like you have

814
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,400
these people who are looking to
start a new life.

815
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:25,500
Life and yet they are drawn into
a wildly stressful intense

816
00:45:25,500 --> 00:45:28,200
situation where they have to
make life and death decisions

817
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,800
and Cameron like you said
earlier about his action

818
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:37,300
sequences he's just such a
direct filmmaker that focuses

819
00:45:37,300 --> 00:45:41,100
the camera and really nice ways.
He doesn't allow there to be a

820
00:45:41,100 --> 00:45:44,600
lot of extraneous movement.
He does, he doesn't allow for a

821
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,500
lot of the other stuff to get in
the way of just, what are these?

822
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,800
These characters going to do and
I think he does an incredible

823
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,700
job with it and Titanic and I
think he does an incredible job

824
00:45:54,700 --> 00:45:58,000
with it here in Aliens.
Yeah, 100% man.

825
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,000
And honestly, I didn't want to
move into.

826
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,900
Let's make it a double so
quickly here.

827
00:46:02,300 --> 00:46:07,400
But you know, I have to admit
that for as much as I love

828
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,800
Steven Spielberg and how he is
unique and original and

829
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,800
one-of-a-kind watching moments
of this movie, I was like, oh

830
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,000
man, did Spielberg.
Lift a little bit of this for

831
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,800
Jurassic Park.
Dude, when they're underneath

832
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:29,900
the bed in the face Grabber
seen, I was like, oh it's when

833
00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:32,200
the kids are in the G.
Yeah.

834
00:46:32,500 --> 00:46:35,200
Like look, waiting for the
Tyrannosaurus Rex.

835
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,700
Yeah.
Or the or the kitchen sequence

836
00:46:36,700 --> 00:46:38,100
with the velocity vectors,
right?

837
00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:42,000
Yeah, the moment for me is at
the very end of the movie where

838
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,800
the queen is chasing them and
Newt and Ripley, get on the

839
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,400
elevator and they cut back to
the queen as she figures out

840
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,600
what an elevator is.
And I'm like, oh, it's the

841
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,600
Velociraptor is learning how to
open a door like it's the same

842
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,700
thing Nana.
And the more I thought about it

843
00:46:57,700 --> 00:47:01,700
the more I was like wow this is
exactly what Jurassic Park is.

844
00:47:01,700 --> 00:47:04,600
It's an hour long set up and
then straight horror and action

845
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,800
for the last hour.
There is no letting up.

846
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,400
You are on the edge of your
seat, it's a Thrill Ride and

847
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,300
when you get off at the end you
are kind of physically

848
00:47:12,300 --> 00:47:15,400
exhausted.
And like man I got my money's

849
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,000
worth here and I think that
there is something to be said

850
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,600
about the fact that Cameron did
it seven years earlier than

851
00:47:21,700 --> 00:47:25,000
Burke dead, right?
I mean I know I understand

852
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,700
Spielberg had done this many
times before, and Jaws is a

853
00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:32,800
thing, but I think the direct
comparison from this is Jurassic

854
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,200
Park.
And if I had to pick this to

855
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,300
pair up with something, I think
that would be the movie, I would

856
00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:39,100
pick.
And I do think Spielberg was at

857
00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:43,100
least somewhat influenced by the
way that Cameron shot cut and

858
00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:45,800
paste this movie.
I think for I think that's a

859
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,200
really good pick, man.
I think for me, I'm going to go

860
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:53,300
a little bit more modern and I'm
going to Pick the first John

861
00:47:53,300 --> 00:47:55,100
Wick movie.
Hmm.

862
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,800
And for me, the reason is, I
think that there's a similar

863
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,300
pacing to John Wick, where it
starts off a little bit slow,

864
00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:08,500
but once you hit the mid point
of the movie, it just is

865
00:48:08,500 --> 00:48:14,500
non-stop action.
And just really, honestly shot

866
00:48:14,500 --> 00:48:17,700
action sequences that don't have
a lot of frill about them.

867
00:48:18,100 --> 00:48:21,600
And so, you know, vastly
different subject matter that

868
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,900
The different eras of film
history, but I think that

869
00:48:25,900 --> 00:48:29,200
there's enough in common here
that I would want to go.

870
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,200
If I was going to do a double
feature of just great action

871
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,700
films, I would go aliens and
then John Wick.

872
00:48:37,300 --> 00:48:39,700
That is super interesting.
I'm still trying to wrap my head

873
00:48:39,700 --> 00:48:43,000
around it, but I like that
double feature, you know, but at

874
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,900
the end of the day, like we're
just going to be watching many,

875
00:48:44,900 --> 00:48:47,000
many, really good action.
Movies if we pair this up,

876
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,700
something, exactly.
Here's my question to you before

877
00:48:50,700 --> 00:48:51,900
we get final scores.
Ours.

878
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:57,600
Is it unfair to pick a genre to
categorize this movie Under?

879
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,300
Because, you know, they always
say, like, people always say

880
00:49:01,300 --> 00:49:04,900
that the first alien is a horror
Masterpiece or a Sci-Fi

881
00:49:04,900 --> 00:49:08,300
Masterpiece, and that this movie
is an action Masterpiece.

882
00:49:08,300 --> 00:49:11,900
And I understand that this is
like, it's a great action movie.

883
00:49:11,900 --> 00:49:14,000
There is so much ass kicked in
this movie.

884
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,000
It is wonderful.
It's also a really good sci-fi

885
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:22,300
movie like the the the
visualization of how the eggs

886
00:49:22,300 --> 00:49:25,300
come out.
Of like the Fallopian tubes of

887
00:49:25,300 --> 00:49:28,900
the alien.
It's like it's gross but it is

888
00:49:28,900 --> 00:49:31,800
really effective World building.
They I learned a lot about alien

889
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,400
reproduction in this movie.
I gotta say.

890
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,500
Yeah.
You sure did Bob.

891
00:49:35,500 --> 00:49:38,400
It's also a really effective
horror movie.

892
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,100
Like there's a ton of
jump-scares, but, and I would

893
00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:43,700
say, probably leans a little bit
more suspense than outright

894
00:49:43,700 --> 00:49:46,400
horror.
But I thought you wanted the end

895
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,100
of this movie.
When there's the big reveal that

896
00:49:49,100 --> 00:49:51,800
the alien had been clinging to
the bottom of the ship and it

897
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,500
likes.
Where's the robot through the

898
00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:58,200
midsection and then Picks Them
Up and rips them in half in like

899
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,300
half a second.
I was like, oh, this is

900
00:50:00,300 --> 00:50:04,000
terrifying.
Like it, I can't decide what

901
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,100
category to put this in and I
almost feel like it would be

902
00:50:07,100 --> 00:50:10,800
unfair to pick one.
Action.

903
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:12,900
It's an action movie of.
All right.

904
00:50:12,900 --> 00:50:15,800
Okay.
I would call it an action

905
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,000
horror.
Do you feel like the horror was

906
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,700
effective in this movie?
Yes.

907
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,600
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah.

908
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:30,000
I mean, especially just the the
raw grow sness of this.

909
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,500
This thing grabbing onto your
face and implanting an embryo

910
00:50:34,500 --> 00:50:41,200
into you is just go like Oh my
god, dude.

911
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,500
Like horrid doesn't just have to
be jump-scares.

912
00:50:44,500 --> 00:50:48,200
It has to be ideas.
That literally make your skin

913
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,100
crawl.
And so if that doesn't do it for

914
00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:54,200
you, then I don't know what kind
of horror you're looking for.

915
00:50:54,500 --> 00:50:58,100
It has the benefit of the more
horrific elements of the first

916
00:50:58,100 --> 00:51:01,900
movie working on its side.
So that when this elite team

917
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,500
drops into this planet and is
trying to scope everything out,

918
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,700
it's really suspenseful because
you know, what's coming and they

919
00:51:08,700 --> 00:51:12,000
don't and that is He's like,
it's terrifying, it's

920
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,900
suspenseful.
And so he really ramps up the

921
00:51:13,900 --> 00:51:15,900
suspense.
But then once the horror

922
00:51:15,900 --> 00:51:18,400
elements start, they are
genuinely scary too.

923
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,100
And, you know, you just
mentioned the idea of like, the,

924
00:51:22,100 --> 00:51:26,000
the violation of the Facehugger
we touched on this a little bit

925
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,000
in the first alien episode, but
especially in a movie like this,

926
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,400
where Ripley truly becomes an
action hero.

927
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,500
I feel like this is kind of like
feminist Theory 101 movie.

928
00:51:36,500 --> 00:51:39,000
Like if you were introducing a
group of college students, in a

929
00:51:39,008 --> 00:51:43,000
film class to the Dia of reading
movies through a feminist lens.

930
00:51:43,700 --> 00:51:45,600
Aliens is like your prototype,
right?

931
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,300
I mean it's it's a movie in
which the major theme of the

932
00:51:49,300 --> 00:51:53,600
film is motherhood but bodily
autonomy, right?

933
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,500
Like this, is you line this
movie up with like a row v Wade

934
00:51:56,500 --> 00:51:59,000
thing and it's like, okay, I
understand what's going on here.

935
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,500
Like it's an argument for a
woman wanting to have autonomy

936
00:52:02,500 --> 00:52:05,400
over her body again, you know,
over against this thing that is

937
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,100
trying to violate her.
And so like, it's all there for

938
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,200
further reading.
Ting.

939
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,600
But the great thing about this
movie, like it just works

940
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,800
everything about this movie
works, it works on a surface

941
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,700
level, it works on a deeper
level, it takes themes from the

942
00:52:19,700 --> 00:52:21,300
first movie and expands upon
them.

943
00:52:21,500 --> 00:52:23,800
It takes some things from the
first movie and says, F that

944
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,400
we're just going to shoot a
bunch of things with machine

945
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,000
guns.
Like, it's like whatever your

946
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,900
demographic.
There is something in this movie

947
00:52:31,900 --> 00:52:35,800
for you and like, is it, is it a
brutal movie at times?

948
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,600
Yeah.
Like it's a rated R movie from

949
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,900
the 80s when the violence.
Was much more violent than it is

950
00:52:41,900 --> 00:52:44,800
today.
And like, I, you know, I just

951
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,100
got back from seeing the second
avatar movie last night.

952
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:49,600
I went to a late showing, I'm
really tired because I was out

953
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,300
till almost three in the morning
watching Avatar.

954
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:56,900
But even today, like Avatar is a
PG-13 movie with a lot of people

955
00:52:56,900 --> 00:53:00,800
getting machine-gunned.
And the violence is really kind

956
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,300
of shocking for PG-13 because
I'm so used to the bloodless

957
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,900
lifeless violence of the MCU now
but camera knows how to use

958
00:53:08,900 --> 00:53:11,300
violence.
And like, this is just a

959
00:53:11,300 --> 00:53:14,100
reminder of that I'm going on.
And on Brad, I love this movie.

960
00:53:14,900 --> 00:53:16,900
I'll give it a final score.
I'm gonna give it a 9 and a half

961
00:53:16,900 --> 00:53:18,500
out of ten.
It's a really great movie.

962
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,700
Yeah, I'll give it a 9 out of
10.

963
00:53:20,700 --> 00:53:24,600
Bob, I think this is an
incredible action movie near the

964
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:29,000
top of what action movies have
to offer and it's largely

965
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,700
because it mixes genres.
So yeah, Cameron does incredible

966
00:53:33,700 --> 00:53:37,700
work here man.
Alright, so it's a 9.25 on

967
00:53:37,700 --> 00:53:39,900
average from us, but we would
like to know what you think.

968
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,900
Particularly I hate to do this
because people love both movies

969
00:53:44,300 --> 00:53:48,400
if you had to pick between alien
and Aliens, I want to know

970
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,400
what's your choice.
So you can find us to tell us

971
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,000
your choice on our social media
Pages, Facebook, Twitter or

972
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,200
Instagram at film whiskey, or
you can jump into the

973
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,700
conversation on our Discord.
Discord is an awesome place.

974
00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:07,600
It's a private server, where
only us the fans of movies and

975
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,500
whiskey can talk to one another
and in a gauge on these

976
00:54:10,500 --> 00:54:12,100
subjects.
So if you want to join the

977
00:54:12,107 --> 00:54:15,100
conversation, you can find the
link to our Discord.

978
00:54:15,100 --> 00:54:17,900
At the end of every single one
of our show notes, I got to ask

979
00:54:17,900 --> 00:54:19,700
you, man, which one's your
preference.

980
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,300
I think aliens.
I think so too.

981
00:54:25,300 --> 00:54:28,300
I think I would revisit this
more than the first alien.

982
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,700
Yeah, I think so.
I think the fact that they don't

983
00:54:31,700 --> 00:54:35,800
just do the horror bit but they
do just enough horror to make it

984
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,700
horrifying, just enough action
to make it thrilling.

985
00:54:39,700 --> 00:54:41,700
I I really like what Cameron did
here.

986
00:54:42,300 --> 00:54:45,000
All right, next week, we will
throw it back a couple years

987
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,300
from this to the movie that
really announced James Cameron

988
00:54:48,300 --> 00:54:51,800
on the world stage and that is
1984 Terminator.

989
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:56,100
Join us for that and Brad's
inevitably spicy takes next

990
00:54:56,100 --> 00:54:58,600
week.
But until then, I'm Bob book,

991
00:54:59,100 --> 00:55:01,400
I'm Brad G and we'll see you
next time.