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On today's film and whiskey.
We are wrapping up season eight

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as we crown the champion of all
champions.

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This is the Film and Whiskey
podcast.

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Hey everybody, welcome into the
Film and Whiskey Podcast.

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I'm Bob Book.
I'm Brad G.

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And Brad, it is the final bonus
episode of season.

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Eight bonus episode.
Folks, if you've been listening

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for the last couple days, you
know that we are smack dab in

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the middle of our bracket
challenge where we take all 32

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films, we put them into a
Madness style bracket and we

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whittle them down under.
The premise of every movie that

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loses in a matchup is thrown
into the fiery abyss, never to

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be seen or heard from again.
So this is serious business,

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Brad.
Extraordinarily serious.

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As we know, Americans take
competition very seriously.

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And so ranking things, whittling
it down, watching things get

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thrown into the fiery furnace,
it's what we all love and adore

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as Americans.
Fighting to the death is just in

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our DNA, you know?
Yeah.

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And we have.
And if that's true, then I'm

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pretty sure the Fugitive is
going to win this year's

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bracket.
Because what?

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What better exemplifies the
American spirit than proving

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other people wrong as you fight
for your very existence?

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So we have whittled it down to 8
films.

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So we're going to get through
the round of eight, the round of

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four and then the championship.
While we do it, we're going to

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talk about a few of the
remaining whiskeys from our top

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five whiskeys of the season.
Brad, before we even dive in, I

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do want to talk just really,
really quickly about our number

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3W of the season.
So on the last episode we did #5

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and #4 which were Old Poultney
12 year and Green River

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Foolproof whiskey #3 is the
whiskey that I mentioned I don't

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have a sample of left.
We had a really, really small

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sample.
I believe it was provided to us

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by your friend Wes, and it's
called Saints Alley, the

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Nobleman Rye.
It was a whiskey that neither of

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us were planning to like,
really, really love 'cause we

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hadn't heard anything about it
and it freaking knocked our

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socks off, dude.
Yeah, I, I remember this one

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being incredible because of how
unique it was.

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I I think it, it had some sort
of Hungarian finish to it.

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Is that?
Correct.

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It was finished in Tokai casks,
which is I think only the second

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time we've had that on the
podcast.

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It's, I mean, it's such a rare
thing to finish whiskey's in,

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but man, I just had such a great
sweetness and that dark grape

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character was fantastic.
Yeah, 100% I I really enjoyed

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that and wish that I had much
more of it.

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Well, while we get into the
bracket, I will actually be

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trying the final two of our top
five whiskeys and that means

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that I have just poured out some
very expensive whiskey into my

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Glencairn Brad.
It is the $160.00 Bardstown

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Bourbon Company collaboration
series with Amroot.

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Dude, I literally just shared
this with my buddy, I don't

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know, two or three weeks ago and
we actually did what they

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intended for us to do because
Bardstown sent us the source

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material.
Like we had a small bottle of

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amroot whiskey and so we drank
that.

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Then we drank the Bardstown
Fusion and it was just an

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incredible experience.
This thing, I don't want to call

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it decadent because when I
usually say decadent, it's like

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the sweetest of all sweet
bourbons.

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And this is not that.
It has that really great almost

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like a wine finish character to
it from the amroot, but that

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maltiness from that Indian malt,
it is just bread.

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It's like one of the best
finished whiskey's we've ever

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had on the show and it is like
truly a special occasion whiskey

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in every sense of that term.
Yes, 100%.

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If you are looking to celebrate
an awesome occasion with a

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friend who appreciates good
whiskey, this would be a great

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purchase.
OK, we've vamped for long

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enough.
It is time for us to dive back

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into the bracket and that means
that we are revisiting the

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Nicolas Cage Memorial Quadrant
to look at our match up of the

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number one overall seed up
against the number eight overall

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seed Rise of the Planet of the
Apes.

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Would you say that it's a face
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Because of chimpanzees ripping
faces off and and Nick Cage

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also.
Nick Cage, did you get it?

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Yeah, I was thinking more of the
apes, but I don't think this is

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really much of a challenge here,
Brad.

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I had The Last Jedi absolutely
dominating this whole quadrant

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and that's been knocked out
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Rise of the Planet of the Apes.
Good film.

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I would still recommend you to
go watch the 2nd movie in that

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trilogy, Brad Dawn of the Planet
of the Apes 'cause it's probably

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the best Planet of the Apes
movie ever made.

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Yeah, I, I'm 100% in.
I very deeply want to finish

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that series at some point.
Well, unfortunately one of the

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films from that series will no
longer be available because it's

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getting removed from existence
by UP.

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Unless I'm really reading the
room wrong here.

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Yeah, UP was my top film of the
the season.

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I think that Rise of the Planet
of the Apes is a great film.

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Really enjoyed watching it the
two or three times that I have

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and it can go rest in peace just
fine.

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So up is moving on into our
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Now, I do want to say we we
talked about this in the last

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episode.
Brad and I kind of make our own

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lists of what our favorite films
are and that helps determine our

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overall seating.
However, just because a movie is

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our favorite of the season does
not necessarily mean that it

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even wins in our own personal
bracket.

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Everything comes down to the
match ups here, Brad.

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And there's been a number of
times where I've had like my

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number one and my number 3
movies going up against each

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other.
And when it really comes down to

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head or heart, I've chosen the
number three movie to move on in

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my bracket.
There's been a number of times

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where like both of our number
one films just get knocked out

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in the course of doing these
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So just because Up is Brad's
number one seed, I have no idea

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if you had it winning your
bracket or not, Brad.

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But I think that it's not a
foregone conclusion necessarily

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that that movie is going to be
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And that's what makes these
episodes fun for me.

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Not at all, Bob.
And I will say this, my bracket

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is doing pretty good so far.
One of my final four is in

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there.
So how's your bracket doing?

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I am over one on the final four.
Now, Bob, I will say one last

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word about The Last Jedi.
I don't think we have ever had a

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movie seated so low that was
picked by one of us as our

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second favorite film from the
season.

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How does it feel to go from this
is my second favorite film to

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seeing it in the 24th seed of
the bracket?

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I guess a more appropriate way
of asking that question is to

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say how does it feel to have a
film that I genuinely really

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like get tanked so hard by a
zero out of 10 score by my Co

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host?
Yeah, that's a great, great.

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Rephrasing back, can you answer
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It feels feels pretty Brad, not
going to lie, this wouldn't have

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won my bracket anyway, and it
didn't in reality, but I just

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think that movie deserves a
little bit more than the overly

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harsh 0 out of 10 score I.
Don't know if it's overly harsh,

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Bob.
I I mean, I know that our scale

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is zero to 10.
I I think I would have given it

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a lower score if possible.
I actually think that is a

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perfect segue into talking about
one of our Filmy Awards folks.

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At the end of every season, we
give out these fake awards.

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Some of them are solely based on
the scores we gave the movies,

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and the first of those is a
movie that we will call the most

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overrated film.
Now this is where we we take the

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IMDb score for a film.
We look at the score that Brad

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and I gave on average, and we
determine which one has the

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biggest gap, specifically where
the IMDb users rated it more

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highly than we did.
Now Brad, the the caveat for

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this and at least one other
award is that The Last Jedi

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absolutely ran away with it
because once again, you gave it

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a 0 out of 10.
Sure did so.

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It makes for an interesting year
for these awards.

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Excluding The Last Jedi, and I
can see that you're in this

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document, so I think you're
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excluding The Last Jedi.
Brad, can you take a guess as to

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what other movie is the most
overrated of the year?

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That is a good question.
You gave End Game a pretty low

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score.
I think I gave it close to what

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it's at on IMDb, but I feel like
End Game would probably be my

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guess.
Other than Robin Hood, Prince of

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Thieves 'cause that's a perfect
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So End Game was actually way
down the list of most overrated.

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We were off by 1.4 points.
That has an 8.4 on IMDb.

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We only gave it A7 on average,
but there's quite a few other

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ones that we had spicy takes on.
None more so than the 2013

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Disney animated film Frozen.
Oh yeah.

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Freaking frozen.
Man Frozen has a 7.4 on IMDb and

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we gave it a 5 out of 10 on
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We're pretty harsh.
We really were.

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OK, yeah, that that totally
makes sense.

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But.
While we're here, Brad, we might

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as well give out one more award.
And it's the one that we call

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most divisive.
Now.

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This is the one where you and I
in particular had the most

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variance in our own scores on a
movie.

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Once again, it is The Last Jedi,
which I don't know that it's

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it's going to ever be possible
to have more variance between my

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9.5 out of 10 and your zero.
Yeah, that that one will most

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likely go down in time as the
most divisive film we have ever

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reviewed.
Now there are two films aside

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from The Last Jedi that are tied
for most divisive.

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So I want to know can you get,
first of all, can you get one of

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them?
But I'd like to see if you can

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get them both.
End game's got to be one.

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No 'cause.
It's not.

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No.
Really.

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What did you give end game?
I gave it a six.

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OK.
And I gave it an 8 1/2.

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Let's see, you gave it an 88 out
of 10.

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OK, yeah, I was thinking 22 is a
decent gap for us. 2 1/2 is is

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pretty far man.
What Shrek?

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Perhaps no man, you are striking
out.

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Oh geez, yeah, I Bob, I honestly
don't know if if those two

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aren't there.
I know that you and I are pretty

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far off on those.
I don't know, Men in Black,

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Independence Day, something from
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Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves is
one of them.

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I gave it a 5 out of 10.
You gave it an 8.

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What a great film.
I just kind of wonder if you got

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like really drunk before
watching that movie, it it would

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be much more fun if you were
really drunk.

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Yeah, I did not drink anything
while watching that film.

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I was just drawn in by Kevin
Costner's beautiful locks of

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hair.
Well, the second one is one that

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you also won't be surprised by,
and it's Star Wars Episode One,

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The Phantom Menace.
What a.

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Great film.
A movie that I I gave a six, two

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and in retrospect is like a four
and a half and I just didn't

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want to hurt your feelings.
But now that you've given The

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Last Jedi A0I can, I can very
easily say The Phantom Menace

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sucks significantly worse than a
six out of 10.

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No, the six out of 10 is the
lowest that you should ever go

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for Phantom Menace.
Fun fact Bob, you often will

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come across more harsh on
things, but then you

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consistently bend to my desires
and like what you think I'm

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going to think about you.
You should just not give a rip.

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That's true.
That should take the Brad G

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approach.
Yes, that I'm telling you man,

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it is so much more freeing when
you don't think about what

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others will their their response
to your actions.

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Because you're only responsible
for you, Bob.

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You.
You are not responsible for my

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response.
That's true.

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I wish I was, but I'm not.
OK, Brad, we are moving down

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into the Jessica Chastain
quadrant here where we're

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looking at the number four
overall seed Toy Story 3 up

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against the number five seed
American Sniper.

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These movies were pretty much
neck and neck in our final

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rankings.
I have already said though, Toy

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Story Three was my number one
film of the season and it did

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absolutely skate by American
Sniper for me in this quadrant.

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Yeah, I, this is a tough one
because I truly love American

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Sniper.
I really like Toy Story 3A lot

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and I've always liked Toy Story
3.

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I I remember watching it at the
drive in back in what was that,

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2010 Eleven?
Yeah, like I remember watching

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it and being absolutely blown
away.

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I think that on my revisit,
there's enough other Pixar films

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that are right at that elite
level that I would put above Toy

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Story 3 that I think I'm going
to move American Sniper on

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because I it it offers so much
more within the genre of Modern

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Warfare films and a commentary
on what it takes to operate in a

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in the current era of war.
I I think that American Sniper

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is worth moving on ahead.
So let me ask this, Brad, we did

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our Pixar tier ranking.
I'm pretty sure Toy Story three

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was in that like S tier for us
of Pixar.

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But if you were just doing
personal like here's my Pixar

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ranking, what would you have
above it?

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Obviously Up would be above it.
Yes, I would have up Toy Story.

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Probably Toy Story now, maybe at
least Toy Story Two, maybe not

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the first one.
Monsters Inc.

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I would put above it.
OK.

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Yeah, Toy Story 3 would probably
fall anywhere from 4th to 5th

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for me.
Man.

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Cars two.
Well, obviously.

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The Good Dinosaur, you know,
Yeah.

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All right.
Well, I moved on.

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Toy Story Three.
I think that aside from Coco, it

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might be the best Pixar movie
ever.

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And so it's it's.
There's another one, Coco.

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It's really high up there for
me.

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At the end of the day, if this
gets knocked out, I still have

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Coco, but I love me some Toy
Story 3.

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So, Brad, we're going to flip a
coin.

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Toy Story 3 will be heads.
American Sniper will be tails.

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Go ahead and do the coin flip.
Oh man, Bob.

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Toy Story 3 has been sniped off
of its pedestal.

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Bradley Cooper is moving on.
Not the first child that Bradley

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Cooper has sniped.
Dude what?

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What a horrific scene.
You sound really excited about

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it for being horrific.
You're like, oh dude, what a

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horrifying thing.
The the Bill Hader on SNL.

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Oh yeah, it sounds.
That sounds.

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Like you're really excited.
Sounds like you're really.

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Excited.
OK.

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We are moving up into the upper
right quadrant, which was the

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The Who memorial.
The the Billy Crystal.

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Billy Crystal, I almost have
Danny DeVito.

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I have no idea what I'm doing.
Basically the same person.

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You know, and we're looking at
the number two overall seed, the

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Fugitive, up against our number
seven seed, The Avengers.

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Now, Brad, this is where things
get spicy for me because I did

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select The Avengers to move on
here, not because I think The

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Avengers is a great film, but in
lockstep with what you were

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saying about me earlier.
Every time we have Patrick

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Williams on the show, he gets so
excited about stuff and he says,

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he says this movie rules.
And I say I believe you,

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Patrick.
I believe that the movie does

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rule.
I think The Fugitive is like a

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really, really good movie, but
it's like an 8 1/2 for me

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instead of a 10.
Sure.

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And I think it's a little
inflated in our final scores.

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I think I gave it a nine and a
half on the episode.

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So I, you know, I just, I think
I'm trying to course correct

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here a little bit.
If I had to choose one to just

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watch forever, I think I'd
probably pick the first

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Avengers.
It's a good movie and it's a

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really good superhero movie.
So I'm speaking my truth and I'm

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moving on The Avengers.
Yeah, you are.

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Let's go, Big Daddy speaking
your truth.

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I think The Fugitive is just the
better film.

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Yeah, I.
I like I, I think within the

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world of cinema, like sure,
Avengers is a really fun, really

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competently made, exciting
action adventure film, but I

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think I think the Fugitive tells
the better story.

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It has better characters, it has
just a more fun, exciting,

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suspenseful adventure that you
go upon.

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I, I really love The Fugitive.
I, I think especially the way

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that they tell the story,
starting from a place of you

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barely know anything about
Harrison Ford's character and

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then you slowly learn more about
him as you go on the chase.

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It's just an incredible film.
So I I'm, I'm moving the

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fugitive forward here.
All right, so once again we are

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at odds.
That means the Fugitive is going

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to be the number two seed and
heads and The Avengers as the

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seven seed will be tales.
Brad, flip that coin.

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Man, Bob, you are not doing well
right now.

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The fugitive is going to be
moving on.

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I don't know if I have ever
cared less about the four films

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going into the Final Four.
Like regardless of what wins

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this next bracket, that, you
know, the next quadrant I like.

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They're all good, yeah, but I
don't feel like passionately

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about any of these.
I'm pretty sure you feel

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passionately about nuclear
explosions off the coast of

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Florida.
I was going to say, of all the

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movies, I kind of feel like I
like True Lies the best now.

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Like it's just it's so fun and I
think that it would be a fun

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season champion.
So I might be stumping for True

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Lies down here in the Audrey
Hepburn Memorial Quadrant as our

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number three seed going up
against the number six overall

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seed.
Pirates of the Caribbean, a film

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that we established last time.
You like significantly more than

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I do.
Like it's a good movie, but I

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remembered it being kind of a
game changing swashbuckler and I

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went back to it this time and I
found it to be a a very above

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average, competently made fun
movie.

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I just don't think it's like
transcendently great.

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Yeah, Pirates of the Caribbean
is not a 10 out of 10, but for

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me, I think it's probably one of
the greatest period peace action

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adventures ever created.
I I think the script is

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airtight.
I think the acting is

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phenomenal.
You, you get so many great

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character actors who chew up
scenery just enough.

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Like none of them ever push it
to the point of completely

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overtaking the film and you just
move so quickly scene to scene

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and you feel as an audience
member propelled upon this

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mysterious adventure on the high
seas.

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I, Bob, I I'm choosing Pirates
of the Caribbean here.

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It it's a film I've loved since
I was a kid.

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It's a film that I think does
what it wants to do best out of

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so many other movies out there.
So you picked it to advance past

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True Lies.
I did, yeah.

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And I, I looked back at my
personal rankings and I think I

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ranked it one spot ahead of True
Lies.

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Like Pirates of the Caribbean
was fifth and True Lies was 6th.

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So I, I just, I just win this
one.

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I just give me one entry in the
final four.

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I don't care what happens from
here on out, but my gosh, dude.

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Bob, that's not up to me.
That is up to the coin of

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Destiny.
I'm sure it is OK.

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So True Lies will be heads as
the three seed.

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Pirates of the Caribbean will be
tails as the six seed.

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Things have not been going my
way.

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Brad, flip that coin.
Drop the coin, try it again.

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What is it?
What is it on the floor?

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Oh, no, that at my gaming
tables, I always have a rule

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that if the dice coin, whatever
you're flipping does not stay on

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the table, it's an extra planar
role.

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You have to redo it.
All right, All right.

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Oh, man.
Bob, are you doing OK, man?

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No, no.
How badly do you want me to

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fudge this for you?
Is it pirates?

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It sure is.
Oh my gosh, how do you I'm three

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in a row.
I'll do it for you, man.

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No, no, no, no, I, I lost like
seven in a row last season.

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Thank you very much.
Dude.

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You have really stacked the deck
for up to take the crown here

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'cause I'm looking at it and I'm
like, I guess it's up.

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I don't know what else it could
be here.

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So folks, for perhaps the first
time, Oh no, we don't have the

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four seed in here, but we do
have in our final four, the

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number one overall seed up the
number two overall seed, the

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fugitive, the number.
Well, the number three got

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knocked out too.
So we have 125 and six six seed

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Pirates of the Caribbean and the
five seed American Sniper.

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How do you feel about that role?
How do you feel about the dude

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broingness of this final four?
I'm a big fan dude bro.

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I was to say.
Turns out I am a dude and a bro.

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into this final four in just a
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we need to go ahead and finish
up our Brad G awards for the

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season we have I'm.
So excited for this.

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We have one more filmy to give
out that is based solely on the

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scores we gave the films in the
moment and that is our most

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underrated.
I really like finishing with

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this one because it doesn't make
us seem like cynical bastards.

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Brad, this is the one that the
general public did not like as

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much as you and I did.
And in this case, there was a

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huge boost from the IMDb score
to our average score.

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Can you guess what that movie
might be?

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Oh man, I remember being
surprised by how low Chronicles

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of Narnia was, so I'm going to
guess that one.

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No, that is actually way down
the list.

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Chronicles of Narnia has a 6.9
on IMDb and we gave it a 7 1/2

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average.
OK, so we're only what, .6 off

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there?
Man, this is actually kind of a

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tough.
One.

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00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,960
Well, let me, let me help it
out, Fugitive.

448
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,680
It's the one that you just
eliminated from existence, Brad.

449
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:25,600
It is James Cameron's True Lies,
a film that got a 7.3 on IMDb

450
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,000
but a nine and a half in our
hearts.

451
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,840
Damn, that's really?
Fun dude, that's a huge gap.

452
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,680
Yeah, 2.2 points like that's
that might be the biggest one

453
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,040
ever.
Moral of the story, everybody

454
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,440
should go watch True Lies and
then give it a high rating on

455
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,760
IMDb.
Absolutely.

456
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,520
You have to reclaim it out of
the ashes of the furnace that

457
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,520
Brad just threw it into.
But.

458
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,120
Yeah.
OK, let's get to these filmies,

459
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,200
the Brad G Awards.
Now we have 2 that are very

460
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,640
nebulously defined, the first of
which is most unexpected.

461
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,240
Now this is just basically
whatever Brad's definition of

462
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,520
his expectations are.
It could be I was expecting a

463
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,000
completely different movie than
what I got.

464
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:12,640
It could be I was expecting it
to suck, but it was really good.

465
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,760
So what is the most unexpected
film of season eight for you,

466
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,400
Brad?
I I think I'm going to say true

467
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,240
lies.
Maybe Prince of Thieves, I

468
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,360
thought you were going True
Lies.

469
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,920
No, I, I think that I went into
Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves

470
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,520
thinking like, oh, this is just
going to be a crappy movie.

471
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:40,760
And then I entered into this
transcendent masterpiece of

472
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:47,800
filmmaking that I was, I would
never have expected going into

473
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,320
it.
I I mean that movie rocked so

474
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:56,240
hard that everybody needs to go
watch it immediately.

475
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,400
It's absolutely not true, but
hey, there you go.

476
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,360
Kevin Costner.
We're sorry about everything

477
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:06,320
that's happening with your
Horizon films, but in the

478
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,800
meantime, you can come collect
your Most Unexpected award from

479
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,760
Brad G.
Now the flip side of Most

480
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,280
Unexpected is biggest let down.
This is pretty self-explanatory.

481
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:20,200
Whatever Brad's expectations
were set at, this movie

482
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,160
drastically underperformed
those.

483
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,640
So Brad, what would you consider
the biggest let down of Season

484
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,680
8?
This is honestly a tough one

485
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,680
because so many of these films I
had seen growing up, especially

486
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:40,600
from like 2019, 99 through the
end of the season like a lot of

487
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,600
these movies I've seen.
I think I would say that

488
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,240
Independence Day was the biggest
let down for me.

489
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,920
Man, now are you?
Are you basing that solely on it

490
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,800
being your first time watch?
Yes, like I went into that with

491
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:01,200
these expectations of this is
Will Smith's transcendent

492
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,000
performance and it's this
incredible space invasion movie

493
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,040
that like is just the most
America thing you've ever seen

494
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,480
and and the the greatest action
film of all time.

495
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,760
And like, those were kind of the
the stories I heard about

496
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,040
Independence Day.
And like, to be honest, the the

497
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,920
cover of the thing I like I, I
it sticks out to me.

498
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:29,640
The cover of the VHS box you
would see at Blockbuster of like

499
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,360
this alien ship, you know, over
hovering over the White House

500
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,120
that there was so much
expectation going into it that

501
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,720
for me to walk away going like,
yeah, that was fine.

502
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:46,520
What was pretty disappointing?
Wow, well now I'm disappointed.

503
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,400
I shouldn't have ended on
biggest let down.

504
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,800
That was a bummer.
Do you want to have a Brad G

505
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,560
Award?
Do I like for myself?

506
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,640
Yeah.
Well, no, I'm not going to give

507
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,320
you 1 Bob.
We usually have it where I make

508
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,760
up an award and I am.
So ready.

509
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,920
I'm pretty sure last season it
was like person, we want Arnold

510
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,600
Schwarzenegger to punch in the
face the most, Something like

511
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:10,880
that.
Something about fighting.

512
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,840
It had to do with Arnold, which
we could resurrect this season

513
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,560
because we have an Arnold movie
right here.

514
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,760
But we do.
If you have something else in

515
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,880
mind, now is the time.
Well, we can both give this

516
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,440
award out, Bob, but this award
is movie that would be most

517
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:30,280
improved by having a tank
unexpectedly breakthrough a wall

518
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,440
in the film.
Now obviously Goldeneye is

519
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,880
disqualified because it already
has a tank breaking out of a

520
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,640
wall.
I'll let you go first look over

521
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,800
this list, Bob.
What?

522
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:46,240
What movie do you think would
just be, you know, infinitely

523
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,520
more awesome if it had a tank
just randomly breaking through a

524
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,360
wall with the main character
driving it?

525
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,880
I mean, there's only a couple
real contenders in my mind,

526
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,800
Brad.
Rain Man would be tonal

527
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,680
whiplash.
So we got to exclude Rain Man.

528
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,600
Although doesn't Hoffman in a
tank?

529
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,440
That's that's what I'm saying
man.

530
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,320
Don't dismiss it so quickly.
I think Frozen probably would

531
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,280
have been improved by a tank,
but not enough to make it matter

532
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,240
that much.
There is only one real answer

533
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,280
here for me, Brad.
As much as Macaulay Culkin

534
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,200
driving a tank would be cool, I
think you have to go with Sister

535
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:28,640
Act.
I think seeing Dame Maggie Smith

536
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:35,360
ride to the rescue in a freaking
tank to takedown Harvey Keitel

537
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,440
and the bad guys would have been
the perfect ending to that film.

538
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,840
Yeah, 100%.
I think that sister act is an

539
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,920
incredible choice here.
I went a very opposite

540
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,000
direction.
This is strange, partially just

541
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,680
because it actually could fit
into the universe.

542
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,720
Do you remember an American
Sniper?

543
00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:00,880
When, Matthew, do you remember
in American Sniper when Bradley

544
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,840
Cooper is kind of like, F it?
I'm just going to go clear

545
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,840
houses.
Yeah, how much?

546
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,640
Better would it have been if he
said F it and then it just cut

547
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,760
to him in a tank rolling through
house after house.

548
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,160
I think it would have
underscored the themes of the

549
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,240
movie significantly better.
I don't think.

550
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,400
I don't think people could
really justify his actions much

551
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,360
longer after they see him
demolishing homes, you know?

552
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,080
It would have been incredible.
It would have been truly a

553
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,080
cherry on the top of that ice
cream cone.

554
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,160
Well, I I'm not going to touch
that statement at all.

555
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,760
So there are our awards,
including the Tank Through a

556
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,040
Wall award, the first and last
time we'll see that one given

557
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,400
out on film and whiskey Brad,
it's time to get into our final

558
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,600
four films here.
And that means that we are

559
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:55,240
looking at number one overall
seed up against American Sniper,

560
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,720
the number five seed now
featuring a tank.

561
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,600
I don't think this is that much
of a conversation, dude.

562
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,120
I liked American Sniper a lot.
I think it's a a vastly

563
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:11,520
misunderstood film.
Up is just better a. 100% yeah.

564
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:16,840
UP follows an incredible
storyline with really great

565
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,880
characters and I and I just,
man, I absolutely love Up.

566
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,080
I'm moving it on to the final
two.

567
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,560
Now I will say Up is a movie
that I gave an 8 1/2 to, and

568
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,240
even on the episode we were
talking with our guest about how

569
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,200
there are like some limitations
to the way that story is told

570
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,600
and how it kind of drags in the
middle.

571
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:41,280
So I'm not as high on UP as you
are Brad, but at the end of the

572
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,360
day, the 1st 10 minutes of UP is
better than any stretch of

573
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,760
American Sniper.
Yeah, yeah, 100%.

574
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:54,320
The, the staying power of that
first 10 minutes of up is

575
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,840
incredible.
Like I I can see a world where

576
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,120
100 years from now it it's still
regarded as one of the best

577
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:06,120
sequences of all time.
OK, so UP is our first entrant

578
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,679
into the championship round, and
that means that we're going over

579
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:14,760
to the right side of the bracket
for a face off of Harrison Ford

580
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,199
and Johnny Depp and Brad.
If that happened in real life, I

581
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:19,679
know exactly who would win that
fight.

582
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:26,199
Harrison would beat the living.
Car just absolutely wreck Johnny

583
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:30,800
Depp dude.
Oh, man, yeah, Johnny Depp is

584
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,239
one of the, for me, he's like
the epitome of weirdness that

585
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,600
Hollywood represents, where you
just don't kind of know what

586
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,440
happens to people when they get
famous, but they definitely get

587
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:43,679
weird.
They sure do.

588
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,800
And then you got Harrison Ford,
who's just like I I just, I'm

589
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,679
going to be grumpy.
I'm going to smoke weed and I'm

590
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:51,040
going to ask for you to leave me
alone.

591
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,920
I I was going to say, he's been
grumpy like since he was 20 I'm

592
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,040
pretty sure.
I'm with it, man.

593
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,760
I'm grumpy.
He's the patron St. of people

594
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,600
like me.
OK, so it's The Fugitive up

595
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,240
against Pirates of the Caribbean
once again.

596
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,360
I think The Fugitive is like
slightly less good than we made

597
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,920
it out to be on the episode, but
it is leaps and bounds better

598
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:15,920
than Pirates of the Caribbean to
me.

599
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,000
This was this was one of the
most difficult match ups for me

600
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,400
because I did not grow up
watching the fugitive.

601
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:29,360
I I didn't see it until I was
probably like 2224.

602
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,120
So not it not even quite a
decade ago.

603
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,360
I I love the fugitive.
Pirates of the Caribbean has

604
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,200
staying power for me.
Oh my.

605
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:44,320
Gosh, dude, come on.
What you doing all right there,

606
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,000
Bob?
Dude, don't tell me that you

607
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:48,920
did.
Come on.

608
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,840
Don't tell me what, Bob, just
put it out.

609
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,720
There.
Did you move Pirates on, Brad?

610
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:59,760
OK, I'm just trying to play it
out and talk about, you know,

611
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,640
the choice a little bit air, you
know, gas up the conversation.

612
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,480
But sure, no, we'll just not
talk about anything, Bob.

613
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,520
I'm so sorry to step on your
dramatic reveal.

614
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,800
I don't.
I didn't mean to do that.

615
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,560
I just couldn't even entertain
the idea of you putting Pirates

616
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,200
of the Caribbean in the
championship.

617
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,680
Bob, my goal every single
bracket episode is to get you to

618
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,840
this point, so you're welcome.
Film and Whiskey Nation, you

619
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,520
have received another
exasperated Bob special.

620
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,200
I'm looking at my personal
bracket that I filled out before

621
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,960
we started this.
Brad and I had exactly zero of

622
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,800
my Final four in the Final Four.
What?

623
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,520
What were your final four Bob?
It was The Last Jedi, Toy Story

624
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,000
3, The Avengers, and True Lies.
Oh wow, A.

625
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,800
Set of four.
I mean, you don't like The Last

626
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,480
Jedi, but like, aside from that,
a good set of films, sure.

627
00:36:55,040 --> 00:37:00,360
Not as good as my final four,
which was up The Fugitive,

628
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,200
Pirates of the Caribbean and The
Phantom Menace.

629
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,960
Oh, Phantom Menace made it to
your final four.

630
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,000
Wow.
Sure did.

631
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,680
Man, well, thank God we avoided
that.

632
00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:13,600
All right, so our championship
is set.

633
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:18,120
It is up versus the fugitive.
And we have one more thing to do

634
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,040
before we get there, Brad, and
that is to reveal our #1 Whiskey

635
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,440
of the season.
Now, when it comes to four of

636
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,800
these top five, they all broke
the 40 mark and the fifth one

637
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,880
was almost there.
But this was only one point

638
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,560
higher in our final score than
the Bardstown on route.

639
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,480
It was really, really close and
we actually drank them on

640
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,720
back-to-back weeks.
And our number one of the season

641
00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:47,760
is Barrel Vantage.
Dude, what a great whiskey.

642
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,320
Barrel Vantage is labeled as a
blend of straight bourbon

643
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,760
whiskeys finished in Mizunara
French and toasted American oak

644
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,920
barrels.
So three different kinds of oak

645
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,080
that they used for this.
The blend on this is just

646
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,200
absolutely spectacular.
It's 114 proof.

647
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,160
It does not drink like it.
It was about half the price as

648
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,640
the Bardstown Amroot.
So we said, hey, you know,

649
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,520
you're in the $80.00 range.
It's not an everyday drinker,

650
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,800
but it's like you, you don't
mind sharing it so much as you

651
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,320
do the $160.00 Bardstown
product.

652
00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:21,960
And I kind of love that price
point, Brad.

653
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,320
Like you've got your $3040
whiskies and then you've got

654
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,520
your, hey, when I have a friend
over, I'll pull this out.

655
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,440
It's it's good to share and to
be a nice whiskey and it might

656
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,280
be one of the best whiskey's
we've ever had at that price

657
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:44,280
point. 100% man this one I
remember it was just sweet and

658
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,960
spicy in all of the right ways.
There was so much complexity

659
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:55,480
here that all made it a a
greater sum than what it's parts

660
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,760
would imply.
That there's incredible stuff

661
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,200
coming out of barrel constantly
and this really is one of the

662
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,560
best.
Yeah, Brad, if you had to pick,

663
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,800
you know, looking through our
list of whiskeys from the

664
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,800
season, obviously I can see what
your scores are.

665
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,800
Are there any that continue to
stand out to you?

666
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,280
I mean, it could just be the one
we just talked about, but like,

667
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,840
what would you kind of have as
your prized possession on your

668
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,720
shelf from the whiskey's we
drank this season?

669
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:32,560
I would probably say the
Bardstown am route, the Green

670
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:37,000
River foolproof mostly because
of its price and the and the

671
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,280
barrel vantage.
The those three just really

672
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,760
stuck out to me as really
incredible whiskeys.

673
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,040
I'm trying to think if there's
any other ones that really stuck

674
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,320
out to me.
But the those three especially,

675
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,600
man, we, we went on a really
great run there three weeks in a

676
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,400
row.
I think the the whiskeys, I just

677
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,640
said we drank 3 weeks in a row.
So that was just.

678
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,280
Maybe the best stretch of
whiskey that we have ever drank

679
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,960
on the Film and Whiskey podcast.
Yeah, dude, I'm with you there.

680
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,840
Because especially we factor in
value.

681
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,840
So you've got the Green River
Foolproof at about $40, you've

682
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,520
got Barrel Vantage at about
$80.00, You've got Bardstown.

683
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,720
I'm rude at 160.
It's like, here's all three

684
00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:26,720
whiskeys that you ever need at
all the price points we could

685
00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:30,120
probably recommend things at if
we just brew a $20, you know,

686
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,640
Rebel 100 in there.
There's your whiskey shelf

687
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,840
folks.
Get those 4 bottles and you're

688
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,040
good to go.
Yeah, 100%.

689
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,720
Here's here's something that's
wild, Bob.

690
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:43,120
I was just looking at our scores
for the whole season and you,

691
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:48,640
you, our pallets may have merged
because your average score for

692
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,800
every single whiskey was a 35.19
and mine was a 35.20.

693
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,840
We did it pallets.
Our pallets have become one.

694
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,280
That's crazy dude.
Let's look at our movie average.

695
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,840
I gave our movies for the season
an average of a 7.22.

696
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,800
You gave them a 7.44, so you
were a little bit higher than

697
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,960
me.
The crazy thing is the IMDb

698
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,960
averages were a 7.32, so they
were almost exactly what we

699
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,360
worked out.
To in the middle, Yeah, that's

700
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,120
really funny, man.
Look at us, men of the people.

701
00:41:25,720 --> 00:41:30,920
Recommending $160.00 whiskey.
All right, dude, let's get to

702
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:36,840
this championship.
It is a Brad G championship this

703
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,840
season, folks.
I'm I'm sure that he is very

704
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,880
excited for this one.
We've got the number one seed up

705
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,160
going against the number two
seed, the fugitive.

706
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,200
I've done a lot of talking today
Brad.

707
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,400
I want you to walk us through
this match up.

708
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,760
I think this is a more difficult
match up than you'd think

709
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:01,160
because this really represents
like very distinct eras of

710
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,120
filmmaking.
But like we're talking about the

711
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,080
dominance of Pixar and what it
has done in the animated realm

712
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,720
versus like almost like we
talked about Rain Man, like the

713
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:16,080
Fugitive is a past era of
filmmaking.

714
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,160
It looks different, it sounds
different, it tells stories in a

715
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,080
different way than what we get
nowadays.

716
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:27,040
So I, I think we're really
trying to work through just two

717
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:31,800
vastly different types of film,
two different eras of

718
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,520
filmmaking.
I, I don't know, Bob, where,

719
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,920
where are you?
Where are you going when you

720
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,960
look at these two movies against
each other?

721
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,720
It's sometimes it's best to just
go with your immediate gut

722
00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:46,560
reaction and my gut would say up
when I start thinking about it

723
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,520
though and I am known to be an
overthinker.

724
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,560
No.
I I see the case for the

725
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,960
Fugitive.
It's a really good movie, dude.

726
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,920
It's not my favorite Tommy Lee
Jones.

727
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,600
It's not my favorite Harrison
Ford.

728
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:04,240
But you're right in that it is.
It's a relic, but it's also like

729
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,360
the kind of template that we
should get back to with our

730
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,080
action films, with our
thrillers.

731
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:16,800
It's just a great manhunt movie.
And there's part of me that just

732
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,680
wants to make it a coin flip.
You know what I mean?

733
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:23,080
Like I, if we both land on up,
I, I feel like that really

734
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,400
deflates the competition here
because I'm with you in that it

735
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,440
is a much closer competition
than we might let on, Brad.

736
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,440
Yeah, 100%.
I'm looking right now.

737
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,040
I don't think the Fugitive is in
the IMDb top 250.

738
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,920
It is not, which is a little bit
wild considering that up is the

739
00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:49,600
number 100 and 12th.
So it's movie #112 on the IMDb

740
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,440
top 250 Bob.
I think I'm leaning towards up

741
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,360
as well.
Like I, I truly usually with my

742
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:02,560
seasons, I do pick a winner, but
my my top two, I think I always

743
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,080
come into it open for either of
them winning.

744
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:12,240
Now usually I don't have that
that luxury when we hit the top

745
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:17,360
two because you do not you've
whittled it away this year, like

746
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,320
up in the fugitive were my two
top choices.

747
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,200
So I at this point, I, I get to
just sit back.

748
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,080
Bob, I'm OK with either of
these.

749
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:28,040
Do you want to make it a coin
flip?

750
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,360
Like, do you think you're
cheating up if we just make it a

751
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:37,480
coin flip here?
Oh, I think I'd be disappointed

752
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,040
if UP didn't win.
OK, well then I think we have

753
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,760
settled folks in a very amicable
way.

754
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,760
We are not going out with a bang
but with a whimper. 2 movies

755
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:52,040
that feature guys falling from
great heights off of a

756
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,240
waterfall.
Man, it's you.

757
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,920
What a what a great pairing.
This is the Let's make it a

758
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,400
double of the season, folks.
It really is.

759
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,920
It would be a very tonally
whiplash night, but I think

760
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,600
you'd have a great time.
I think UP is the season 8

761
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:26,400
champion.
Man of the 32 years of

762
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,760
filmmaking, would you have
expected up to reach the heights

763
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,120
that it has?
Absolutely not.

764
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,880
I think I had up getting
eliminated in like the Sweet 16,

765
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,760
so I clearly did not imagine
that happening.

766
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,880
But I also was banking on The
Last Jedi winning a whole bunch

767
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,080
of coin flips to get there, so
who knows?

768
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,520
You know, who cares what I have
to say?

769
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,160
Yeah, it it was, it was fighting
an upward battle, that's for

770
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,120
sure.
I'd, I'm glad you brought up The

771
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,640
Last Jedi.
I'd like to take one last chance

772
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,200
to like spit on it as it falls
into the fiery inferno.

773
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:05,360
That movie has destroyed the
most beloved franchise in

774
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:12,120
cinematic history and I am so
more excited than I am for Up to

775
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,560
win.
I am excited for it to be gone

776
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,960
from the existence of the film
and Whiskey podcast.

777
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,600
You know what else is gone Is
your beloved Phantom Menace.

778
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,560
So I guess we can't have
everything, can we?

779
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,320
Yeah I I love Phantom Menace,
but I definitely hate the Last

780
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,720
Jedi more.
All right folks, there you have

781
00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:32,800
it up is our season 8 champion.
Did we get it right?

782
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,680
You can let us know what one
your personal bracket by finding

783
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,360
us on any of our social media
accounts, Facebook, Twitter,

784
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:44,920
Instagram, TikTok, YouTube and
Brad's favorite LinkedIn at Film

785
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,800
Whiskey.
I just don't know why we're on

786
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,680
it.
I mean, why not?

787
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,120
It doesn't cost us anything, you
know.

788
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,520
Oh, I love it, man.
If you want to join the

789
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,960
conversation, if you want to let
us know what your winner was,

790
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,240
jump onto our Discord.
Join the conversation.

791
00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:03,880
You can find a link to our
server at the end of every

792
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,880
single one of our show notes.
Folks, over the next few weeks,

793
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,040
you'll be getting some bonus
episodes to tide you through the

794
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,120
offseason here.
We're taking a month off from

795
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,600
recording, but we've worked
ahead a little bit and we've got

796
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,280
some bonus episodes to plug in,
some of them featuring some

797
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,320
pretty spectacular guests.
At least one the preview of

798
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,120
season 9, which, spoiler alert,
we still haven't landed on our

799
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,840
theme for season nine.
So it is as much a surprise to

800
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,720
us as it is to you.
We're really excited to continue

801
00:47:31,720 --> 00:47:33,440
doing the film at Whiskey
Podcast.

802
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,040
Brad.
I don't know that I ever would

803
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,600
have expected that we would have
made it through eight seasons of

804
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,440
this thing.
Yeah, I, I still remember

805
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,840
finishing season one and being
like, man, this is like a really

806
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,960
fun little hobby.
I, I'm glad that we got this

807
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:50,880
started and here we are
basically five years after that.

808
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:57,160
I am blown away by a how much
fun this has been to, to watch

809
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,200
it grow, to see the audience
grow.

810
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:04,200
And I'm just so thankful that we
have this opportunity to show

811
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,440
the world that you can disagree
on movies and still be friends.

812
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,720
You can disagree on whiskeys and
still be friends.

813
00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:15,040
That there is a place where it
is safe for all of us to have

814
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:20,040
our own wrong opinions.
And on that note, folks, we're

815
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,840
going to sign off for the Season
8.

816
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:25,080
Once again, we do want to say
thank you to Blackwood

817
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,240
Distilling Company.
They have sponsored these last

818
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:32,240
few episodes and guys, if you
haven't checked them out yet, go

819
00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:34,960
get yourself some Blackwood
Distilling Company whiskey

820
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,880
because it is truly incredible.
We'll be featuring more of

821
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,520
Blackwood in the coming months,
especially as we have in many,

822
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,520
many seasons passed by bringing
on their global ambassador, Zach

823
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,680
Johnston as a guest host.
So stay tuned for more of us.

824
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,160
Stay tuned for more of
Blackwood.

825
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,160
We will see you guys in season
nine.

826
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,600
So signing off, I'm Bob Book.
I'm Brad G.

827
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,000
And we'll see you next time.