The Wolf of Wall Street (2013) / Green River Wheated Bourbon

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In 2013, director Martin
Scorsese and star Leonardo

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DiCaprio gave the world a
debaucherous rampage through the

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personal life of an egotistical
maniac.

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In 2025, we pair up the Duchess
of Bay Ridge with the Pride of

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Owensboro.
The film is The Wolf of Wall

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Street.
The whiskey is Green River

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weeded bourbon.
And we'll review them both.

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This is the film and Whiskey.
Podcast.

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Welcome to the Film and Whiskey
podcast, where each week we

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review a classic movie and a
glass of whiskey.

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I'm Bob Book.
I'm Brad G.

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And this week we're looking at
2013's The Wolf of Wall Street,

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a film that, if I'm being 100%
honest with you, Brad, I really

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kicked the can down the road for
a long time on us reviewing this

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movie because to give a peek
behind the curtain into Bob's

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life, I was not a fan of this
movie The first time I saw it.

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And then it was one of those
films, I think I've told you

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this before, much like 2001,
another classic film that I

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don't vibe with.
I've given it many chances over

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the years.
Unlike 2001, I think I can

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officially say that I've come
around on this movie.

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So all the hot takes I've been
saving for nine seasons are kind

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of irrelevant now.
Brett Yeah, they they're invalid

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the same way that Leo and Jonah
Hill spend much of this movie,

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just completely unable to make a
salient point.

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You know, I I will say I did not
like you shooting down my idea

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of us deviating from whiskey
reviews into Quaalude reviews

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today.
I thought that would have been

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great.
I've been sitting on these

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lemons for so long dude.
If there's anything that I am

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all about, it is taking illegal
substances and then doing

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podcasts.
The truth will emerge one way or

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the other, Brad.
It sure will, Bob.

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Well, hey, welcome into film and
whiskey, folks.

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If this is your first time
joining us, what we do here is

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talk about movies and talk about
whiskey.

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This It's going to be a heck of
a first episode for you my.

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Friend.
So many references to so many

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different orifices today, Brad.
Yeah, it's it's going to be a

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rough one.
This season what we're doing is

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we're looking at movies from the
last 20 years and we're asking

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the question, does this film
deserve to be considered a

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modern classic?
Now, The Wolf of Wall Street is

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an interesting movie in Martin
Scorsese's Ovra because it was,

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I believe, his highest grossing
film of all time.

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It came out and was a very big
hit.

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I mean this is.
Wonder what that says about the

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American public, Bob.
This is what, at least his 3rd

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or 4th collaboration with Leo at
this point, and Leo is at the

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height of his popularity here.
So this movie, it made a lot of

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sense.
But it came out and was, I mean,

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it caught the zeitgeist, right?
Like people love raunchy

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comedies.
It's Scorsese doing essentially

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a Goodfellas esque format.
As a huge raunchy comedy

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starring the biggest name in
Hollywood, it was kind of

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destined to make a bunch of
money.

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It was nominated for best
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It is a fairly beloved film
still, so it makes a lot of

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sense that it would come up on
our list this season.

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Brad.
Yeah, and it's also feels like

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it makes sense 'cause we also
watched The Big Short this

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season, which is referenced in
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I caught it.
When he's talking to the feds,

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he's like, hey, I can give you
Goldman Sachs and Lehman

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Brothers.
Let me tell you about these

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collateralized dead oblations
that they're doing.

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And I was like, hey, I know what
that is.

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Wait till they find out about
the CDO squared Brad that.

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Dude, it's it's all going
downhill from there, my friend.

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I have a lot to say about this
movie and perhaps it's because

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this movie is 3 hours long,
Brad.

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It is the equivalent of watching
two of our beloved 90 minute

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movies.
So back-to-back, man, there.

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There's a lot going on in this
film.

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I think before we dive in, let's
just get to Brad explains right

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off the bat here because
otherwise we're just going to be

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saying a lot of really
inappropriate things that people

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won't understand are actually
references to the movie.

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So folks, let's get into Brad
explains Brad's gonna.

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Give us the movie plots with
only 60 seconds ticking on the

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clock.
So let's go ahead and do your

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take with this little segment
that we call, Brad explains.

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Brad Explains is the part of the
show where Brad breaks down the

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plot of the film that he has
just seen, often for the first

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time.
I'm realizing now that I have no

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idea what your history with this
movie actually is, Brad.

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I watched this movie maybe two
or three years ago just kind of

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on a whim.
It, it was a movie I knew should

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be on my list.
I knew it was debaucherous and I

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wasn't sure if I wanted to watch
it, but I was like, well, I

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don't, I don't know if we're
going to do it for the podcast.

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So I'll, I'll go ahead and sit
down and watch it.

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I was actually pleasantly
surprised at how much I enjoyed

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the film the first time through.
And so that I mean to answer

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your question, that makes this
the second time that I've seen

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it.
All right, so Brad, famously a

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famous lover of debaucherous
films as you are, I'm just the

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best.
I'm sure you'll have much to say

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here, folks.
If you have not seen The Wolf of

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Wall Street yet, we are gonna
spoil the movie here, and Brad

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explains.
So hit pause here, go watch the

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movie, take a shower, and then
come back and join us for the

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rest of the episode.
Brad, you have 60 seconds and

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go.
The Wolf of Wall Street is a

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film about a man named Jordan
Belfort and his rise as a from a

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no name nothing stockbroker on
Wall Street to a just lecherous

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multi multi millionaire yacht
riding, drug hazed wild time of

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a life.
And how he cheats on Kristen

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Milioti, which is insane.
And Bob, he does lots of drugs

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and he gets in trouble with the
feds and he gets into a giant

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storm on a on his boat and he
gets thrown in jail and nothing

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bad happens to him because he's
rich and and you should all be

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rich like him, right, Bob?
There it is.

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That's the lesson, right?
That that's that's the only

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lesson I learned from the movie.
That's the lesson that matters

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anyway.
All right, so that's The Wolf of

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Wall Street.
Let's just go ahead and dive in.

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Talking about the debaucherous
nature of the movie.

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Not in in.
I'm not like casting aspersions

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or judging it for what it is.
The movie is purposely as big

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and over the top in every way as
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And I think that there's a word
that I saw printed once it was

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in reference to a Kanye West
album called My Beautiful Dark

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Twisted Fantasy.
And they they, they called it

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maximalist.
And I'm sure that that's a real

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word, but I'd never actually
seen it applied to a work of art

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before.
I'd always heard minimalist.

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And I think that maximalist
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It is opulent.
I don't even know if opulent's

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the right word because it's not
like a a palace or something,

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but it's over the top in every
single aspect in the runtime, in

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the acting style, in the length
of the scenes, in the amount of

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jokes, in the amount of drugs
and sex and boobs and everything

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else that you could possibly
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And the the sum total of it is
kind of intended to desensitize

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you to it.
And so I'm watching this movie

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this time and I'm like, this is
perhaps the most debaucherous

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thing we've ever watched for
this podcast.

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And yet by the and yet by the
two hour mark, I've seen so much

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stuff that it's not as if I turn
this movie on to like, you know,

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get my jollies right?
Like, you're watching this movie

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and you're like, good Lord.
Like this guy's life is

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horrifying.
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And, and I think a lot of people
pushed back on the movie when it

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came out because it didn't seem
like Scorsese was doing enough

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judging of him.
Right?

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Like the the end of the movie
where he's finally caught, they

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put a bow on that in like 5
minutes and you have two hours

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and 55 minutes, which seems to
be celebrating the lifestyle

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that he he leads.
And I think that that's a really

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crappy way to read this movie.
Like just observing it for three

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hours is enough of an indictment
of this guy.

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You don't need Scorsese
preaching at you to get the

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point. 100% And that is the
beauty of this film.

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And like what draws me into it
is that he's not indicting

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Jordan Belfort for how he lived
his life.

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He's indicting the audience for
their desire to live a life like

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that.
And, and I think that the movie

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is, strangely enough, supposed
to cause self introspection to

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be at the end of the film and
sit back and go, huh, if I could

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have the life that that person
that, you know, Scorsese has

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just shown me, would I choose
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And you know that like that's a
very honest conversation that

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people have with themselves or
should have with themselves.

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And I, I think Scorsese
ultimately is interested in

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helping people have that
conversation with themselves.

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He just does it in a very wow
depraved and immoral type of

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way.
Yeah, sorry Matt Scorsese

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himself.
Just the portrayal of what

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happened.
Right, right.

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Well, and I think even to go a
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point, it's not just like, would
I would I have that type of

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life?
Would I want that type of life?

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It's also asking the question
when you get to the end of the

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movie to ask yourself why did I
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Why is it so enjoyable to look
at this kind of lifestyle?

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And obviously it's themes that
he's explored before.

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And I think I think if you are
going to make a valid criticism

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of this movie, it's that this is
like the 4th or 5th time

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Scorsese has made essentially a
gangster movie in the same vein

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as Goodfellas, right?
Like you got Goodfellas and

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Casino and then this being more
of a explicit comedy, but I

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think because people expected
the comeuppance at the end to be

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similar to Goodfellas or Casino
and then you don't get it here.

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People kind of read that back
onto this movie as like, oh,

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this is a pointless exercise in
glorifying the crimes that this

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guy committed.
And I I don't think that's I

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don't think that's fair and I
don't think it's true.

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And Brad, I really have, I've
had a lot of thoughts on how to

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approach the way the movie is
structured to kind of beat you

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down, to overwhelm you, and then
to implicate you by the end of

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it.
I'd like to hear a little bit

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more about what your your
thoughts were on the fact that

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this is a three hour long movie.
Like obviously it's a purposeful

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choice.
Does the choice to make the

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movie so long work for you?
I think that it is a chore to

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get through this movie.
Like, if I'm being honest, it

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was my second time through.
I am doing a mailing for work,

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so I'm literally just
handwriting a million addresses

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on envelopes.
And so I just kind of did that

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while it was on.
And yeah, I paid attention.

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And there's definitely parts of
it that like, drew me into the

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point where I was like, oh,
crap, I haven't written an

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envelope in like 20 minutes.
But at the end of the day, if

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you are sitting down just to
watch this movie, I think it's

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really overwhelming.
And I that is the experience I

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had the first time through it.
It takes you to the very edge of

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where you ever want to go as a
viewer.

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And it does leave you with that
question of like, did you enjoy

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that?
Was that, was that worth it?

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Was all the sex and the drugs
and the, the wild parties worth

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it?
And I, I think that's the thing

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for me is that, you know, I
texted you earlier like, this is

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an incredibly funny movie and
it's so, so well made.

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And I don't think I'm ever going
to watch it again in my life.

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I I don't have any desire to
come back to it.

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Yeah, it's weird because I, I
think that this is an exercise

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in a filmmaker taking the form
or the genre or the, you know,

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the format of his movie and
making the the bones of the

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movie actually help him make his
point, which is always a really

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risky thing to do.
And I remember learning when we

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were in high school about the
genre of satire and the book Don

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Quixote and how I think it's
Miguel de Cervantes, right, that

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wrote Don Quixote and, and how
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like the writing style of his
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really Florida type language
when you're explaining heroic

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narrative.
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Quixote, who's this like
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hundreds of pages long because
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the heroes in literature in his
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of the style of writing.
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of doing something similar here.
Like he's, he's not just sending

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up the types of people he's
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He's kind of sending up himself
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overwhelming Great American
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throughout his career.
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because he wants it to be 3
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And for you to be like, this
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Why is this 3 hours long?
So it's a huge gamble.

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I don't, even after seeing this
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if I totally think that works,
but I respect what he's trying

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to do with it.
Yeah, I I think he could have

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made the movie 2 1/2 hours and
still gotten the point across

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100% and and saved 30 minutes of
my life.

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I also just really want you to
do Let's make it a double with

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Don Quixote.
A book I've never read.

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Let's be.
Clear like go go read this book

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and watch this.
Movie and I'll see you in 2026

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when you finish them both.
You know what's funny about it

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though, Brad, I agree with you.
I think the movie's too long and

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on rewatch this time, everything
that I really remembered from

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the movie actually happens in
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Like I was shocked at how
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what's it called, Stratton
Oakmont or whatever.

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The girl shaves her head for
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All these things I remembered.
You knock him out in like 40

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minutes and I remember thinking
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they do with the remaining 2
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And yes, I think they could have
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in in sum total.
But the weird phenomenon I had

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this time was I actually think
this movie is aging better and

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better because of the direction
that comedy has gone the last

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10-15 years.
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New Girl, it's really clear
where the scripted parts of a

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scene end and where like the
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like these two guys were riffing
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to the end of their riff and
then we come back to the

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scripted stuff.
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Street was actually a little bit
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that it did that.
Like, I'm thinking of the scene,

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especially with DiCaprio and Rob
Reiner, where they're just

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talking about how women shave
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And it just goes further and
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down the rabbit hole until he
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I've always liked the Bush.
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but anyway, dad.
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scene again.
And it's they let these, like,

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long spiels go on until they're
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And I think that if you're not
vibing with the movie, those can

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get super repetitive and kind of
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But I think the style of comedy
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in the last 10 years, actually
kind of like you can point back

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to Wolf of Wall Street as one of
the forefathers of this type of

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comedy.
And it works because they have

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the right people and the right
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But like, there are plenty of
comedies that follow in this

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vein that aren't actually that
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But when you have Jonah Hill and
Leo and Rob Reiner directed by

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Martin Scorsese, it is one of
the funnier movies we have

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watched in a really long time.
Bob.

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Oh, it's so funny.
And like, what's what's

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interesting to me is Scorsese
has has always had really funny

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moments, even in his dramatic
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Like Goodfellas is a funny movie
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And I'm always shocked at like
how much of A knack he has, not

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just for comic timing and things
like that, but in in letting

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himself go to really silly
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Like there are entire slapstick
style scenes in this movie where

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I'm like, you know, I'm, I'm
looking at the guy that made

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Raging Bull and like Silence and
all these like big, heavy,

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monolithic dramatic movies.
And I'm also watching Leonardo

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DiCaprio high on Quaaludes, try
to open a car door with his foot

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and getting lifted off the
ground talking about being in

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the cerebral palsy stage.
Like it's, it's such a dumb

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movie that it's, it's almost
like it comes all the way back

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around to being artistic just
because, you know, Scorsese did

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it.
Yeah, and the the moment when he

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looks down the stairs and it
looks like it's like 60 stairs

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and then they show like the
other camera view, like the the

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impersonal camera view, it's
like 7 stairs there.

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There's just so many funny parts
to this movie.

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I personally, I think Jonah Hill
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Near the end of the movie, when
him and Jordan are sitting at

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his house and Jordan's under
house arrest and he's asking him

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about the beer he's drinking.
He's like, yeah, yeah, no, But

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like, if you drink enough of it,
it'll get you effed up, right?

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And then he goes like, well,
well, I'm not a scientist.

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I don't understand what you're
saying.

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No.
So Brad, I'm looking at my notes

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for the movie.
And what I've realized is that

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I've made very few notes on my
analysis of the movie.

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And it's just funny quotes from
the movie because I think this,

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this movie has a lot more one
liners than you would actually

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think.
I just can't repeat a lot of

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them here.
Sure can't.

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Yeah.
And and it goes back to what you

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said about Scorsese.
I think he has incredible timing

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as a director for comedy, but it
also becomes more artistic

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because it's Martin Scorsese.
You know, like he he just

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everything he makes has a
Genesee quoi about it.

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Like just this beauty to it that
you're like, well, Dang it.

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I I don't want to think that
this is funny and beautiful and

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so well made, but it just is.
You mentioned Jonah Hill, and I

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think this is a good place to
start talking about

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performances.
Obviously we should be starting

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with DiCaprio, but Jonah Hill
might honestly be my favorite

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performance in the movie, so I'm
glad we're starting with him.

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He is a cartoon character and
yet at the same time, I never

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felt like his character was
being overplayed.

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Like the way they set him up is
he is this kind of manic drug

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addicted Jewish guy with
phosphorescent white teeth.

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And then like from that
description, Jonah Hill walks in

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and you're like, Oh, yeah, OK,
this makes perfect sense.

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To be clear, married his cousin.
Married his cousin bro what he

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says.
I would drive it out to the

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country and open the door and
just say be free.

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It's.
Like an 80% chance that things

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aren't going to be great.
Oh, man.

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But yes, a lot of my notes are
just Jonah Hill quotes.

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And you mentioned at the end of
the movie when when DiCaprio is

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under house arrest and they're
talking about how they all got

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found out.
And he just looks at DiCaprio

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and says, I'll tell you one
thing, I'm never eating at

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Benihana again.
I don't care whose birthday it

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is.
I want to hear you talk a little

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bit about Jonah Hill because
there's some really good Jonah

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Hill stories from the production
of this movie.

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Hill had obviously come out of
these like Judd Apatow movies.

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He was known for super bad and
then he was in that crappy

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college movie, what's it called?
Accepted.

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And then he does Moneyball,
totally different character,

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gets Oscar nominated for that
and still has to kind of

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convince Scorsese to cast him in
this movie.

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He takes the minimum salary of I
think 60 grand to be in this

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movie and gets Oscar nominated
again.

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What is it about Hill that works
so well for you in this movie?

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He I'm going to use one of my
favorite words, Bob.

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He just comes across as sincere.
Like not wait.

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Crucially, the character is a
very insincere person.

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But but Hill playing it.
Hill playing it is sincere.

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I think the character itself is
actually a sincerely insincere

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person.
Like when he goes up to Jordan

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and asks him how much money he
makes.

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I, I guess what I'm trying to
say is there's a bluntness to

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his character and an honesty
about who he is no matter what.

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Like he never hides who he is as
a character.

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And I think Hill just nails the
performance, the the body

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language of that type of
character who like is

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extraordinarily honest about
what he actually cares about.

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I I think he'll just portrays
that with utter perfection.

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Yeah.
I mean, I think what we're

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saying is he takes what is
essentially a caricature and

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makes him seem like a real
person, which is extraordinarily

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hard to do.
And this will not be the first

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time that I make a comparison to
The Big Short, because I think

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that really should be kind of
how we evaluate this movie,

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Brad.
But I made a lot of notes about

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Steve Carell's performance in
The Big Short and how it really

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just felt like they put a wig on
him and he did a voice.

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And you were supposed to believe
that this was not a real person,

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but it never quite transcended
Steve Carell doing a voice.

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And here you have a character
that is like immensely sillier

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and I would say harder to play,
but he seems more like a person

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you would actually run into than
Steve Carell's character from

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The Big Short.
Yeah, that I honestly, I think

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that's a perfect comparison,
'cause I, you know, Steve

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Carell's great, He nails it.
He does a good job in that role.

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Jonah Hill takes on this role of
is it Donnie, Donnie Azoff, I

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think and and makes it into
absolutely a person that you

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could believe exists in real
life.

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And I I think that's like the
fascinating thing about the

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entire movie is that with how
insanely wild everything gets,

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there's never a moment where I'm
like, Nah, this wouldn't happen

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in real life.
Like every single thing that

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goes on.
I'm kind of like, yeah, that

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probably happens on Wall Street
somewhere.

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Like maybe not at every
brokerage firm, but I can

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imagine a world where that is
true.

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All right, let's have the Leo
conversation, because in the

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wake of Leo winning the Oscar
for The Revenant, I think film

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Twitter has really driven the
conversation about The Revenant

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being a crappy movie.
I disagree.

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And I also think that Leo gives
a legitimately great performance

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in that movie, but it's widely
perceived as like a makeup Oscar

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or a career Oscar.
And I think in the years since,

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people have really said he
should have won his Oscar for

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Wolf of Wall Street, which I
will also go out on a limb and

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say I don't necessarily agree
with that either.

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I still think to this day, my
favorite Leo performance is

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probably The Aviator in terms of
the ones that he's at least been

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nominated for.
But I want to talk about this

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performance.
Do you think that this is an

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Oscar worthy performance?
And what is it about this

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performance in particular that
you think he didn't win for?

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That's it man.
I think that this is an example

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of.
You'd have to check the other

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who else was running that year
or in the running that year,

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because I think that this is an
Oscar worthy performance.

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It's not a no brainer Oscar
performance.

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And I, and I think, you know,
we've kind of had this

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conversation about Leo before.
Leo is a great actor and he does

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incredible things.
There is a part of me that feels

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like this is more of the same.
And if anything, it it almost

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presages the Revenant in terms
of like I'm, I'm just double,

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triple, quadrupling down on the
type of character I can play

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until I get an Oscar.
Which is really funny because if

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you think about like what he had
made his bones on was like these

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mentally unstable, deeply
haunted men.

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Like the Aviator is a great
example.

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Even a movie like Blood Diamond,
he kind of has that.

445
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,320
And by the time you get to
Inception and Shutter Island in

446
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,840
the same year, that is like peak
haunted guy DiCaprio.

447
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,000
And what he what he follows it
up with is Django Unchained,

448
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,760
which is way out of left field
for him, followed by this movie

449
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,120
where DiCaprio does not do
comedy.

450
00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:48,040
Like, this is a very different
change of pace.

451
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,440
And then the Revenant.
So they were all him trying

452
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,360
something completely new.
But I'm with you in that I think

453
00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:57,040
on the surface, people looked at
this performance and thought

454
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,320
more of the same.
And I, I wonder if it's because

455
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,960
his personal life influenced,
you know, he's always

456
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,240
photographed by paparazzi on a
yacht with some supermodel

457
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,360
somewhere.
And I don't know if maybe people

458
00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:13,600
just thought like, Dicaprio's
just playing himself, which is

459
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,880
super unfair.
But but yeah, I do wonder what

460
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,880
it was about this movie that
they weren't willing to go that

461
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,520
length with him that they were
by the time of The Revenant.

462
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,560
It's fascinating to me because I
do think that The Revenant is a

463
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:33,160
mixture of a performance that is
Oscar worthy, but not a No

464
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,040
brainer win mixed with a career
win.

465
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,400
Like it's like this.
This performance is definitely

466
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,640
good enough to get him nominated
and we need to give Leo an

467
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,000
Oscar.
So we're going to give him an

468
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,640
Oscar.
And I don't think that those

469
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,240
things take away from each
other.

470
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:55,680
I like, I do think that a career
should be considered.

471
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,280
You should understand who the
person has been, what they've

472
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,720
done for cinema as a whole.
I just think when it comes to

473
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,760
the Wolf of Wall Street, I don't
know if he made himself stand

474
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:08,760
out enough.
Yeah.

475
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,440
And I I'm going to pull up the
other nominees to just think

476
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,640
about it a little more deeply.
I've got him right here if you'd

477
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,200
like me to read them off to you.
Oh, please do.

478
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,600
OK so McConaughey wins for
Dallas Buyers Club and this was

479
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,520
the big Oscar not I'm going to
call Oscar bait but like

480
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,640
McConaughey loses 4050 lbs to do
that movie and that's why he's

481
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,320
so skinny at the beginning of
this movie.

482
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,880
He's nominated and wins.
Bruce Dern is nominated for

483
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,520
Nebraska.
She would tell edgy of four is

484
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,800
nominated for 12 years a slave
and Christian Bale for American

485
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,600
Hustle, which I actually think
is a great analog.

486
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,680
Once again, we talked about
Christian Bale in The Big Short

487
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:51,520
and how my guy just, he's always
going for it and it doesn't

488
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,000
always feel authentic.
And I think especially if you're

489
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,600
comparing those two, Dicaprio's
also kind of going for it.

490
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,960
But it seems authentic coming
from DiCaprio.

491
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,000
Yeah, I I think I would agree
with that.

492
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,440
I of those movies, I've only
ever seen American Hustle.

493
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,720
I liked American Hustle.
It's nowhere on the level of

494
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:11,720
Wolf of Wall.
Street.

495
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,640
And I, and so looking at those,
I, you know, Matthew

496
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,000
Mcconaughey's incredible.
I feel like maybe this could

497
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,920
have been the one that Leo won
for.

498
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,840
I'm always with you though, man.
I think he's like pitch perfect

499
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,240
in the Aviator.
I will say like if you're making

500
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,440
the pros and cons list for why
he should, let's like, let's say

501
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,640
you can only give DiCaprio 1
Oscar.

502
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,200
Now you have to make your pros
and cons for why it should be

503
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,280
every performance in in the pros
column for Wolf of Wall Street.

504
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,920
It's a completely different
performance than you're used to

505
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,560
seeing from him.
And the level of physicality

506
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:50,160
like there is true like
pratfalls and slapstick comedy

507
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,560
when they're doing like their
slow motion quaalude fight over

508
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,760
the counter.
He's trying to get Donnie to get

509
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,920
off the phone and it's just like
2 guys moving in slow motion,

510
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:02,840
but in real time.
It's absolutely hilarious.

511
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,360
And then he takes the bump of
cocaine, he gets up and he rips

512
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,160
the telephone cord off himself
and just screams step aside.

513
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,480
It's it's pitch perfect comedic
acting.

514
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,520
And I don't think that he's
gotten the credit that he

515
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,680
deserves for that.
In the cons column, though, I do

516
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,880
feel like because this character
doesn't have an arc, like he

517
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,640
kind of he kind of gets his
comeuppance.

518
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,040
He kind of realizes that what he
does is bad, but he goes right

519
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,360
back to it at the end of the
movie.

520
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,080
And it reminds me of like
everything we ever said about

521
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,240
Scarlett O'Hara as a character,
right?

522
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,640
She, she's Scarlett O'Hara for
the whole movie.

523
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,000
Things change around her, but
she doesn't really change that

524
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,280
much.
And I'd I don't know that the

525
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:51,080
Academy likes rewarding those
types of characters because I

526
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,640
think implicitly they think that
it's not as hard to act those

527
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,640
characters as it is to show a
transformation.

528
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,840
And I, I think that there is a
transformation for Jordan

529
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,520
Belfort, the character by the
end of the film, it is just so

530
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,360
minute.
And he goes from being a young

531
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:16,880
married guy who is like an
aspiring sleazebag to like the

532
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:23,240
peak King of Olympus sleazebag
to like a hidden sleazebag.

533
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,320
And like, that's his
transformation.

534
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,880
And I do think that there's
movement there within the

535
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,560
character.
But once again, this movie is

536
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,680
not about the character of
Jordan Belfort.

537
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,400
It's about how the audience
responds to him.

538
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,440
And so I think in that level,
you know, I think Leo gives a

539
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:45,520
incredible performance as being
someone for the audience to

540
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:50,680
bounce off of, to gravitate
towards, to make them think

541
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,640
about their own lives.
I want to talk briefly before

542
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,320
break about Margot Robbie,
because I don't think I'm

543
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:02,320
understating it to say that
there are very few roles that

544
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,800
are have been like immediate
vehicles to super stardom in the

545
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,560
21st century the way that this
role was.

546
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,760
And yes, she has to get naked
for the role.

547
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,040
Like I, I understand, right?
This could be.

548
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,880
Scorsese did not require that
she be naked for the role she.

549
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,760
Just said everyone else is naked
around here.

550
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,480
Let me join in the fun.
She.

551
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,840
She. 100% chose on her own.
He he offered for her to wear

552
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,520
lingerie, other things.
She she was all about it man.

553
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,880
She's ready to go.
I mean, she's in her early 20s

554
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,320
when they make this movie and
essentially an unknown.

555
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,840
This is the one that rockets her
to super stardom.

556
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,760
And I think it's one of those
rare instances where a director

557
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,520
understands that if I get the
casting right here, I am

558
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,440
essentially like handing this
actress or actor on a silver

559
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,080
platter to the masses to be the
next big thing.

560
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,600
Because it's it's not simply
that she's so good in the role.

561
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,200
And she absolutely is the
chemistry in that like dinner

562
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,640
date sequence with DiCaprio
where she's saying like, we're

563
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,840
not going to be friends off the
charts.

564
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,320
It's also that you are being
explicitly told and shown as an

565
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,760
audience that this is the
ultimate object of desire for

566
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,080
everyone in this movie and that
she's explained as like the most

567
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,440
beautiful woman I've ever seen.
And so to have that build up and

568
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,960
then also Scorsese to help pay
it off with the way he frames

569
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,120
her and shoots her and lights
her and everything else, it is a

570
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,480
complete star making
performance.

571
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,560
And she, she takes everything
that Scorsese hands her and

572
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:41,040
absolutely runs with it.
Like, I, I think that's, that's

573
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:46,040
the key thing for me is like,
she is offered super stardom

574
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,400
right from the bat.
And I think she kind of deserves

575
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,200
it.
Oh yeah, 'cause the way that she

576
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:58,400
plays Leo's character throughout
the whole film is so stunningly

577
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,520
good.
And the, the way at the end of

578
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,800
the film when she's, you know,
trying to keep him from running

579
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:08,880
off with her daughter feels like
such an authentic representation

580
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,000
of how a mom would be reacting
in that I, I, I think she

581
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,560
actually has a character arc
and, and was incredible with it.

582
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:21,600
I totally agree and I think that
Scorsese sometimes gets this

583
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,639
like unfair accusation of not
having like great female

584
00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:27,760
characters in his movies, which
is hilarious because they're

585
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,880
always a like the moral backbone
of his movies.

586
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,719
But usually the best
performances on like a sneaky

587
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,040
level.
Like I think Lorraine Bracco in

588
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,360
Goodfellas is next level.
Sharon Stones amazing and in

589
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,880
casino, Margot Robbie, I think
should have been Oscar nominated

590
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,120
for this movie.
And I look back on her career

591
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,920
now as it's come to this point
and she's had some really big

592
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,360
great meaty parts as the lead.
You know, she's nominated for

593
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,360
Barbie.
She's nominated for I Tanya.

594
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,520
I still think this might be her
best performance when you're

595
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,560
thinking about it like pound for
pound to come out of nowhere and

596
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,840
not just hold your own against
somebody like Leo, but kind of

597
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,880
steal every senior in against
him.

598
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:11,080
It it's a feat, man.
Absolutely.

599
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,600
And I think it's, you know, a
few years back we did two

600
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,960
seasons in a row on directors
and we would score out the

601
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,880
directors at the end of, you
know, doing all their movies.

602
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,360
I think that Scorsese is just
one of the absolute best

603
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,120
directors of actors that we have
working.

604
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:37,800
He just is able to draw out so
much of any person's talent to

605
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,640
help them be everything they
need to be.

606
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,080
I mean, even the smaller roles,
like at the end of the film when

607
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:49,240
all of his Belfort's lackeys are
being interviewed by the FBI or

608
00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:51,720
the SEC or, you know, whoever's
investigating.

609
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,240
The way each of them have their
own personality, as they all say

610
00:35:57,240 --> 00:36:03,120
the exact same thing, is
brilliant and it's so well done.

611
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,520
And all of those actors are
better because of who's

612
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,680
directing them.
All right, man, I think this is

613
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,480
a good spot for us to hit pause.
I'm actually really excited to

614
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,200
try our whiskey for the day.
But this is a good conversation,

615
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,280
good movie.
Hopefully a good whiskey to go

616
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,840
with it.
What do you say we tried this

617
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,800
Green River?
Let's get to it.

618
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,600
All right, so today we are
checking out Green River Wheated

619
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,240
Bourbon.
Now I have to spoil our our

620
00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:36,760
review a little bit here.
I just said I hope this is a

621
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,160
good whiskey, Brad.
And I know for a fact that this

622
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,320
is a good whiskey because if
you're an astute listener of the

623
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,680
Film and Whiskey podcast, you
will remember a couple seasons

624
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,840
ago, in fact, in the season 7
preview episode, we actually

625
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,040
reviewed this whiskey already.
Green River had sent us 2

626
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,960
whiskeys to try at the time and
this was our favorite of the

627
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,760
two.
And we get to bring it back

628
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,560
again and give it a more full
review this time because Green

629
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,440
River has also just debuted
their Single Barrel Weeded

630
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,920
Bourbon.
Now Brad and I received samples

631
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,480
of the Single Barrel weeded
Bourbon and the folks at Green

632
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,880
River were kind enough to also
include a sample of the standard

633
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,520
weeded bourbon to go with it,
you know, to kind of compare and

634
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,520
contrast.
But we realized we only given a

635
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,200
4 minute review of this thing.
It's time we we give this thing

636
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,760
the attention that it deserves.
Brad.

637
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:31,200
A full 5 minute review.
I say we go Wolf of Wall Street

638
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,520
on this thing.
Oh, 180 minute review.

639
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:41,720
Wow, this is going to be the
longest episode of all time.

640
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,400
How long do you think we could
talk about whiskey?

641
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,040
Not that like.
One specific.

642
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,960
That's the thing.
I know that we have people that

643
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,840
only listen to the whiskey
reviews and folks, I deeply

644
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,160
appreciate you, but I I respect
the hell out of you because

645
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,560
listening to somebody describes
something they're tasting for

646
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,760
any length of time is like a
very high risk.

647
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,480
Yeah.
Like you're not tasting it with

648
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,160
me, probably.
So you're just listening to me

649
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:08,760
smack my gums and explain
something to you.

650
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,760
It's it takes true commitment to
listen to these sections, Brad.

651
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,040
Yeah.
What we're saying is we're still

652
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,480
amazed that anybody listens to
us.

653
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,400
So thank you.
Thank you very much.

654
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,320
So Green River, we did bourbon.
This is a 90 proof bourbon.

655
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,240
It's non age stated so it's at
least four years old according

656
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:28,320
to TTB regulations.
The mash bill on it is 70% corn,

657
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,360
21% wheat, nine percent six row
barley.

658
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,600
So when this first came out in
2023, the MSRP on it was $35.

659
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,160
I think it's gone up a couple
bucks.

660
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,920
I'm not entirely sure, Brad, but
just for the sake of argument,

661
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,280
let's call it 40.
Until you correct me later on.

662
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,480
I'm super pumped to get into it,
man.

663
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,320
It's not very often we do a 90
proof bourbon anymore and I

664
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,080
really do love a good low proof
bourbon from time to time.

665
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,360
Yeah, there there is a
difference between this and you

666
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,960
know, the 110 proof bombs that
we often drink.

667
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,600
It's amazing how much of this
stuff you can drink, Bob,

668
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,320
because it it goes down smooth.
It sure does, man.

669
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,520
Let's dive into it.
I'm sipping it live.

670
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,440
I know you've already tried it,
so why don't you give us your

671
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,360
nosing notes, Brad?
The nose here is cherry cordial.

672
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,040
There's some dates.
It's a little bit corn heavy

673
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,200
there.
There's a bit of like a just a

674
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,200
nice generic simple syrup vibe.
It's got a bit of a fruity

675
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,760
nature to it, almost like a a
crisp apple peel.

676
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,040
I like this nose a decent
amount.

677
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,920
I'm going to give it a 7 1/2 out
of 10.

678
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:38,520
Yeah, I like this too, man.
And I think date is a really

679
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,200
good note for this date Fig kind
of that.

680
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,520
I don't want to call it raisiny
character, but in that same sort

681
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,480
of vein, there's a lot of honey
to this.

682
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,960
I do get a little bit of almost
like a like a wine finish

683
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,880
characteristic on this, which is
funny because there's no wine

684
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,600
going into this, but it reminds
me of some of the whiskeys that

685
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,120
we've had that have been
finished in like Cabernet casks

686
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,440
or something like that.
Really, really nice dark stone

687
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,000
fruit going on here.
I'm going to give this an 8 out

688
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,840
of 10.
I think the taste comes down

689
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,320
just a little bit from the nose.
It's got an apple juice

690
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,280
character to it.
There is caramel, it's nice and

691
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:21,440
weedy, has a bit of a candied
almonds nutty flavor to it.

692
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,440
Good, not great.
I'm going to give it a 7 out of

693
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,520
10.
Yeah, Brad, I'm kind of with you

694
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,280
on this one.
There's again, it's going to be

695
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,080
a little bit unfair anytime
we're drinking a weeded bourbon

696
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,320
because you guys know our love
for the Rebel line of products

697
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,000
from Luxe Roe and even for like
Weller products.

698
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,640
And this is a very different
flavor profile than either

699
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,400
Weller or Rebel.
We don't really get those.

700
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,360
At least I don't get those
cherry cola notes so much on

701
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,400
this as we do on a lot of weeded
bourbons.

702
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,800
This one's a lot more kind of
bright, like it's, I don't want

703
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,840
to call it sour, but it's like
more citrusy a little bit on

704
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:04,840
that sort of like pop of sour
flavor from fruit than those

705
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,160
other ones would be.
It's a little bit thinner on the

706
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,320
mouthfeel as well.
And I'm going to be honest, man,

707
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,840
it, it tastes a little young,
even as a non age stated 4 year

708
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,760
old product, It doesn't quite
have the like mature character

709
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,640
that you get on a Weller.
Now, that's not to say that this

710
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,920
is not a good product at all,
but I, I, you know, with Rebel,

711
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,640
sometimes we found that that's
punched above its weight and

712
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,400
we've been able to recommend it
as like a Weller alternative.

713
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,160
This one, I would say is like a
very different, we're in a

714
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,560
different ballpark with this
one.

715
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,320
Like this is a entry level
weeded bourbon.

716
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,680
If you want to try weeded
bourbon or if you want one for

717
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,480
cocktail mixing, that's where
I'd put this one.

718
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,960
I'm going to give it a 7 out of
10.

719
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,240
Yeah, and the, the finish has
kind of a lot of things you'd

720
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:53,320
expect.
It lingers with a really nice

721
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,760
cherry cola vibe.
There's a little bit of a dried

722
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,600
meat peppercorn kind of feel.
It gets a little bit oaky.

723
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,680
It doesn't last long enough to
be outstanding, but I, I like

724
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,680
the flavors that sit on my
palate for a while after I'm

725
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,600
done drinking.
I'll give it a 7 out of 10 here

726
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,160
and and I think balance wise
I'll give it a 6 1/2.

727
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:21,360
I don't know if there's enough
complexity to to to make me love

728
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,480
this whiskey, but I do think
that they have a lot of good

729
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,240
stuff going on.
Yeah, I'm with you, man.

730
00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:27,320
I'm going to give it a 7 on both
fronts.

731
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,760
Like it's that apple juice
character comes back a little

732
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,800
bit on the finish and it does.
It does sour just a little bit

733
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,800
for me.
Overall, I think it's a well

734
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,920
balanced whiskey.
I can understand a little bit

735
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,880
more now why the MSRP is set in
like a $30, you know, or $40

736
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,800
range instead of the 5060.
Look, we are huge fans of the

737
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,960
Green River Foolproof.
And that is definitely a whiskey

738
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,240
that I would say punches way
above its weight class.

739
00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:56,400
Like if they started charging
$70.00 for that, I would still

740
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,200
say this is this is worth it,
right?

741
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,240
I think they've got the price on
this one set pretty

742
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:04,520
appropriately.
Brad, what is it currently

743
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,160
selling for?
Bob, this bad boy will set you

744
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,640
back $35.
Oh, so it hasn't gone up at all?

745
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,120
That's great.
It has not.

746
00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:16,760
Yeah, it's a great price.
I think I'm going to give it a 7

747
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,160
out of 10 on value.
Like this is a really solid

748
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,640
whiskey at $35.00 that I think
is worth picking up.

749
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,800
I'm with you man.
I'm going to give it a 7 as

750
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,080
well, which takes my final score
out to a 36 out of 50.

751
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,960
Brad, what are you coming to?
I'm at a 35 out of 50, Bob.

752
00:43:35,240 --> 00:43:40,880
OK, so we are at a 35.5 on
average or a 71 out of 100.

753
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,240
Now for reference, a 35 is
typically where we start

754
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:47,920
recommending like a a slight
thumbs up, you should try this,

755
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,120
you should buy this.
I will say I think my score was

756
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,720
definitely boosted by the fact
that they priced this so

757
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:56,280
appropriately.
This is like a pretty good

758
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:01,360
whiskey with a great price tag.
Yeah, yeah, I, I think that's

759
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,400
where I'm at as well.
It is a really cool bottle.

760
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,400
It's a good easy sipper that you
can also use as a mixer.

761
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,600
I think this would be an
excellent old fashioned mixer

762
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,720
that there's lots of good things
that you could do with this and

763
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:18,200
it's not going to set you back
that much.

764
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,160
Bob, I think this is a bottle
that is definitely worth buying.

765
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,800
I agree.
I agree and I would probably

766
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,880
recommend buying before.
I'd recommend trying a pour at

767
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,800
the bar because at $35 you're
looking at about, I don't know,

768
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,720
8-9 dollars a pour.
And at that point I would just

769
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:36,480
say, hey, like at the bare
minimum you're talking about a

770
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,000
90 proof weeded bourbon that you
can use as a mixer.

771
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,240
That's a really good cocktail
whiskey.

772
00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:45,200
So I would say buy before you
try honestly.

773
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:49,000
Yeah, 100%, Bob.
All right, dude, let's get back

774
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,800
into talking about the Wolf of
Wall Street.

775
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,320
What do you say?
Let's get to it.

776
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,520
All right, everybody.
That was Green River Weeded

777
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,680
Bourbon, a whiskey that
continues the tradition of just

778
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,800
really solid, affordable
whiskeys coming out of Green

779
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,160
River.
Brad, I'm going to put you on

780
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,000
the spot right now.
Next week should we do the Green

781
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:20,560
River Single Barrel or should we
save that as like a online blog

782
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,080
review?
What do you think?

783
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,440
Nah, let's just do it, dude.
Let's let's give the people what

784
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,080
they want.
Knowing that those people can

785
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,920
never get the barrel that we're
drinking, we're going to review

786
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,280
that single barrel.
Yeah, it's representative of the

787
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,840
quality that the distillery puts
out, Robert.

788
00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:37,280
I love it.
All right, so next week we'll go

789
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,560
from the weeded to the weeded
single barrel.

790
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,880
I'm looking forward to that man.
And if you want an example of

791
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,440
the quality of stuff that we put
out, you are going to be excited

792
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:50,280
for our next segment of the day,
2 Facts and a Falsehood.

793
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:57,120
It's going to try to stump your
ball. 2 are right and what is

794
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,440
wrong?
2 facts and a falsehood. 2 Facts

795
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,320
and a Falsehood is the part of
the show where Brad presents me

796
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,720
with three items as fact about
the making of this movie, one of

797
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:12,720
which is a complete lie.
Now Brad, this is a three hour

798
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:16,240
long movie in which a lot of
people show up and do a lot of

799
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:21,200
things, so I I can imagine that
the IMDb trivia page was

800
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,760
extensive on this movie.
Quite extensive.

801
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,720
There were lots of things to
pick from.

802
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,800
I chose my theme and I am
sticking with it though.

803
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,000
Oh, you have a theme today.
I sure do.

804
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,640
Is the theme.
No, I'm not going to go there.

805
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,600
All right, Brad, we will hear
what the theme might be.

806
00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:41,960
Hit me with your two facts and a
falsehood.

807
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,360
Fact #1 Jonah Hill had an
audible lisp when he first put

808
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,000
in the fake teeth to play
Donnie.

809
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,720
To get rid of this, he spent
over two hours on the phone

810
00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:54,000
calling random businesses and
talking with them.

811
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,080
By the end of the session, he
had mastered speaking clearly

812
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:02,480
with the prosthetics in place.
Fact #2 Jonah Hill's desire to

813
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,840
shoot a movie with director
Martin Scorsese nearly caused

814
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,360
him to renege on his commitment
to shoot This is the End with

815
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,680
Seth Rogen.
However, when Seth found out

816
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,760
that Jonah had a chance to work
with Scorsese, he he had the

817
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,920
production schedule managed so
that Hill could act in both

818
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:23,240
productions.
Fact #3 In the scene where Jonah

819
00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:27,720
Hill eats a goldfish and was
filmed, he was filmed with a

820
00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:31,960
real goldfish with animal
handlers on set and he was

821
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,040
allowed to keep it in his mouth
for three seconds, but obviously

822
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,000
not allowed to swallow it or eat
it due to the animal cruelty

823
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,080
laws.
Which somehow this is my

824
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,760
commentary, which somehow the
animal cruelty laws are like,

825
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,160
yeah, you can have the fish in
your mouth for three seconds,

826
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,480
but no longer that after that.
It's cruel.

827
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,560
That 4th, 2nd.
Quite cruel.

828
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,360
We have determined that the
threshold for fish torture is 4

829
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,160
seconds and.
At that point it's basically

830
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,600
Zero Dark 30 and you're going to
get caught holding the leash.

831
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,920
OK, so on that note, first of
all, I thought that the theme

832
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,000
was going to be something
extremely perverted and it just

833
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,560
turned out to be Jonah Hill.
So a little disappointed in

834
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,080
that.
But on fact number three, I've

835
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,360
heard that fact before.
I'm going to say that that's a

836
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,600
truth because I know that they
like, it's been a story that

837
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,080
they've told on like Larry King
and all the late night shows and

838
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,680
they had animal handlers.
They let him put the fish in his

839
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,640
mouth.
So it's got to be one or two.

840
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,160
Now 1 is interesting to me
because I don't know if he

841
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:41,560
actually had like like teeth
that had to go up in his mouth

842
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,680
or if they just put some sort of
veneers on him and would those

843
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,680
cause him?
Quite a quite a Bohemian

844
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,160
Rhapsody.
Well, that's the thing, The

845
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:52,840
Bohemian Rhapsody teeth.
My boy Rami never really got the

846
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,840
hang of those things.
I'm not going to lie dude I I

847
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,040
thought his teeth looks so fake
at this movie.

848
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,720
Like when they point out how
white they are and then he

849
00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:03,280
smiles.
I'm like, wow, those are not

850
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:03,720
real.
Tea.

851
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,720
No, but I think that's the
point, right?

852
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,120
So here's the thing.
I don't really care about the

853
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,800
movie.
This is the end and I don't care

854
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,320
about the production schedule of
it.

855
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,760
So I want that to be a truth
because I don't think that we

856
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,440
should spend any time talking
about that.

857
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,960
So I'm going to say #1 is the
falsehood just because it's a

858
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:30,040
more interesting fact, Brad.
I don't know if I follow your

859
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:35,640
logic, but I do love when I have
a chance to follow your illogic

860
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,960
to a loss for you in 2 facts and
a falsehood.

861
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:44,520
OK so so the this is the end
thing was the falsehood.

862
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,320
That was the falsehood.
What I'm saying is my logic is

863
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,720
we usually have to go back and
forth and vamp a little bit

864
00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:54,600
about what the falsehood was and
why it stumped me and.

865
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,320
You didn't want it to be about.
No, this is a really boring

866
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,400
fact.
Like a you got to come up with

867
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,720
something spicier, especially
for Wolf of Wall Street.

868
00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:04,840
Man, I I.
Was trying to keep it as tame as

869
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:05,680
possible.
Bob.

870
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,120
I thought it was going to Yeah.
No, I'll, I'll keep it.

871
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,880
Tame the Patriots.
Don't get some.

872
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,000
Get some spicy tape.
I don't want the FCC checking in

873
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,080
on us.
All right, man, let's get back

874
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,200
into talking about the movie.
And I think perhaps a good

875
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,280
little exercise for us, Brad, is
to keep comparing this movie

876
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:28,160
repeatedly to The Big Short, a
movie that we both liked but

877
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,440
definitely had our issues with.
And I think having watched this

878
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,800
movie now, what's become really
clear to me is that Scorsese in

879
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,800
this movie beat Adam McKay at
his own game.

880
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,840
McKay really helped advance this
like improv heavy style of Will

881
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,720
Ferrell comedy with movies like
Anchorman and Talladega Nights

882
00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:53,000
and especially Stepbrothers.
Stepbrothers is so improv heavy

883
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,240
and I feel like this movie is
right in line with that.

884
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,600
Whereas McKay was like, OK, now
it's time for me to make my big

885
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:06,960
Oscar E movie and I can't let
this movie feel as shaggy and

886
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,280
improv heavy.
I have to make it mimic a Martin

887
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:14,240
Scorsese movie and it feels like
McKay tried to make a Scorsese

888
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:19,280
movie and kind of failed, but
Scorsese made a McKay movie and

889
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,480
made it even better.
Well I was going to say,

890
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,120
Scorsese doesn't have to try to
make an Oscari movie.

891
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,880
Every single movie he makes
feels like an Oscari movie.

892
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,520
So like with that to the side,
he can kind of just do whatever

893
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,520
he wants.
And I'm with you, except for the

894
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:42,000
fact that it feels like Scorsese
already has an improv heavy

895
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,160
style of directing.
Like I feel like a lot of his

896
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,400
movies, you know, we talked
about it in Raging Bull.

897
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,000
Like there's a lot of scenes in
that movie where I'm like, oh, I

898
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,680
don't know if the improv really
works here with with De Niro,

899
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,000
whereas it works great in other
films that he does.

900
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,280
Wolf of Wall Street being an
example of it.

901
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,560
This is a complete aside.
We haven't talked about Jon

902
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,520
Bernthal in this movie as the
drug dealing friend Brad.

903
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:15,080
He does a Martin Scorsese,
Robert De Niro performance.

904
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,120
So good like that is that if you
had young De Niro in this movie,

905
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,800
he's clearly Brad like he's not.
He's not Jordan Belfort and the

906
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,760
scene where he meets and fights
with Jonah Hill in the parking

907
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:31,080
lot and you could tell he's
like, it's such a good piece of

908
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,640
acting because he's letting
Jonah Hill be the over the top

909
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,240
one and he's just reacting to it
as like the straight man.

910
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,040
It's such a good young De Niro
performance.

911
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,120
I just have to give Bernthal
some credit there.

912
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,400
Oh, he, he is such a funny
character in this movie.

913
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,680
And I, I do think that Bernthal
is incredible in that role, as

914
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:55,080
small as the role is.
And I, I also this just made me

915
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:59,040
think of it.
I love the little ticks that

916
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,920
Scorsese gives throughout the
movie of like, hey, by the way,

917
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,000
audience, you shouldn't like
this guy.

918
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,480
And Brad is one of those
characters where you get that,

919
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,400
where he's like, he got out of
prison and we threw him a party

920
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,680
and he didn't snitch on anyone.
And oh, yeah, he died three

921
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,840
years later.
But anyways, he was having a

922
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,880
great time with these strippers
at this party after he got out

923
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,760
of prison.
And you're like, like, hold on.

924
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,400
What?
He died three years later.

925
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,680
There's a couple moments like
that in the narration where

926
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,280
he'll say something.
Oh, it was about like the guy

927
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,640
that married the secretary that
had, you know, blown everyone in

928
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,160
the office.
And he's like, yeah, he killed

929
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,280
himself.
But anyway, at that time we were

930
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,680
super happy.
And I, and that's what I, that's

931
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:46,680
the only reason I like this
movie is because I think to say

932
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:51,560
that Scorsese doesn't judge the
character is inaccurate.

933
00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:55,600
I think those are the little
moments where you catch Scorsese

934
00:53:55,600 --> 00:54:01,440
judging the character and trying
to remind the audience of what

935
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,640
it looks like to live in the
real world.

936
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,920
And what it looks like to live
in the real world is to be

937
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:12,000
suicidal and to have a really
poor old heart when you're like

938
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,320
35, when you do that many drugs.
Well, and again, like he's

939
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:20,800
making essentially a Scorsese
gangster movie in the same style

940
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,120
that he's made all his gangster
movies.

941
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,520
But in those movies about the
mafia especially, what happens

942
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,280
to you if you step out of line
is you get killed by somebody.

943
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:35,120
And the brilliant thing about
making it the exact same way is

944
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,440
that it underlines the complete
difference between those people

945
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,760
who exist in the real world and
these people who also exist in

946
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,320
reality.
That when they step out of line,

947
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,320
what happens is there is a
year's long FBI investigation

948
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,040
that only catches up to them so
much later after the fact that

949
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,160
you forget that there was even
an investigation.

950
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,800
And when the hammer of justice
comes down, ultimately only gets

951
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,320
36 months in prison.
And it's a cakewalk for him

952
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,800
because he's rich.
And then he gets out and he

953
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,880
still has all of his, you know,
Swiss bank account money to fall

954
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,600
back on.
And he's peddling the same stuff

955
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,960
again.
It it's so brilliant because

956
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,240
he's showing us that these guys
are gangsters and they operate

957
00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:16,600
in the same way and they're
breaking the law in the same

958
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,880
way.
But these guys get away with it.

959
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,400
And I think that that's like
that.

960
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,280
It's honestly the most effective
messaging of any of his gangster

961
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:29,960
movies because of that.
That I, I don't know if I would

962
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,760
have thought of this as a purely
gangster film, but I'm kind of

963
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,160
with you man.
That, like the way that they

964
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,480
follow his life, feels so
similar to Goodfellas

965
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,680
especially, but at the end of it
all, he's not.

966
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,400
He gets away with it, yeah.
Like at the end of Goodfellas,

967
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,560
the whole point is like, Yep, I
got caught and I live the most

968
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:54,200
boring life in the world in a
middle, upper middle class house

969
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:58,480
in like Arizona or something.
And it, and this one, he's like,

970
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,000
yeah, I'm, I'm in Auckland, New
Zealand doing a, doing a sales

971
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,640
pitch to a bunch of people,
being a motivational speaker.

972
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,040
Like it's, yeah.
It's kind of a step down, but

973
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,320
it's also like I could get right
back up to where I was before if

974
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,320
I do this for enough time, you
know?

975
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,200
And exactly.
And that's the thing about it is

976
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,720
like, no one gets bumped off in
this movie.

977
00:56:17,720 --> 00:56:22,040
Nobody's getting whacked.
And the final shot, as he's

978
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,920
pitching this thing to all these
people, again, the camera tilts

979
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,360
up and the audience is basically
breaking the 4th wall, looking

980
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,560
at us, implicating us in.
Why are we so riveted by this

981
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,400
guy's story?
Why does it appeal to us so

982
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,360
much?
And it's because what we have

983
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:41,920
seen to be borne out as truth is
that like, even if the United

984
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,360
States government comes down on
this guy, he still wins in the

985
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,360
end.
And like, that's a, that's a

986
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,600
pretty chilling final message to
give us.

987
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,320
And the thing I realized halfway
through the film when he was

988
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:59,240
giving his I, I'm not done yet.
I'm not going speech when he's

989
00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:04,320
talking to the gal who asked him
for a $5000 advance and he wrote

990
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:09,240
her a $25,000 check.
I I realized I was like, oh,

991
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,120
this movie is about how to start
a cult.

992
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:16,880
Yeah, it's a it's framed as like
he's a pastor giving a sermon.

993
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:21,480
It's a religion to them, yes.
Yes, it it if if you've listened

994
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:26,240
to the Rise and fall of Mars
Hill podcast, it like that just

995
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,560
jumped into my brain and I was
like, oh, this is like a secular

996
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,880
version of a Mark Driscoll.
And if, if that doesn't make any

997
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,640
sense to you, you can leave it.
Leave it to the side and keep

998
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,160
going.
But this movie is about how to

999
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:44,080
start a cult around a person and
Belfort does it.

1000
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:48,880
And the end of the film is like,
did you get sucked into do you

1001
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,560
want to join the cult?
Are you, are you in on it or are

1002
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,680
you out 'cause you know where it
takes you?

1003
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,920
Well, and what I love so much
about those scenes where he gets

1004
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,200
up on the microphone is that
they are such a clear

1005
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,760
distillation of what actually
motivates Jordan.

1006
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,040
When he gets up and he like the
first time, it's him saying, you

1007
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:06,320
know, are you behind on your
rent?

1008
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:07,760
Good.
Pick up the phone and start

1009
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,360
dialing.
I want you to deal with your

1010
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:14,120
problems by becoming rich.
Like that's the solution at at

1011
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,240
the end of the day, the thing
that gets us over the hump is

1012
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,680
becoming rich.
And the second time when he gets

1013
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,120
up and gives the speech you're
referring to is when he

1014
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,720
explicitly says, like, this
place is America.

1015
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,160
It's the land of opportunity.
And I think that, again, you

1016
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,120
know, Brad, you're usually the
more idealistic one about

1017
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:37,280
America as a concept than I am.
This is a very cynical movie

1018
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,520
about what America is or is not
and what capitalism is or is

1019
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,200
not.
But I think regardless of where

1020
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,760
you land on that spectrum, it's
a very clearly communicated

1021
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,280
point.
Yeah.

1022
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:52,840
And, and I think the fascinating
thing for me is that this

1023
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:58,040
actually, I haven't thought of
it until now, but this reflects

1024
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,200
Scorsese's Catholic faith so
well.

1025
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:07,760
Like he essentially just gave us
an entire movie of like, this is

1026
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:12,000
what the world has to offer you.
Is this what you want?

1027
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,960
Like, is this the style of life
you want to live?

1028
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:20,400
Is this the brokenness that you
want to pursue, the darkness

1029
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,680
that you want to pursue?
Or do you want to pursue

1030
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,560
something else with your life?
And he never once says it in the

1031
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,520
film.
But I I have to wonder if, as a

1032
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:34,400
devout Catholic, he offered this
film up as like a yeah, this is

1033
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,280
what the world can be like, but
is it really what you want with

1034
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:39,840
your life?
I mean, I think it's not a

1035
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,480
mistake that he makes this movie
and silence back-to-back, you

1036
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:44,000
know?
And what?

1037
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:50,960
What a wild back-to-back
experiences within the

1038
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,520
filmography of any director of
all time.

1039
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,400
Well, and I you know, I think
the joke is like making this

1040
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,800
movie like scarred him so deeply
that then he needed to go make a

1041
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,680
movie about Jesus.
But I do think that they're an

1042
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,040
interesting pairing and this
will be my Segway into let's

1043
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:07,160
make it a double here in a
second.

1044
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,080
But they're an interesting
pairing because I think to your

1045
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:14,040
point, Brad, like it is showing
the difficulty of living life

1046
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,400
the other way in silence.
Where is this movie is like this

1047
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,800
is the the you know, the the the
path is broad, right.

1048
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:25,800
The way is easy to to the depths
of hell here in Wall Street.

1049
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,120
All right man.
With that said, let's get into.

1050
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,480
Let's make it a double.
We're near the end of the

1051
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,120
episode, so thanks for listening
to the film and Whiskey Show.

1052
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,840
Let's have another film with
this one, even if it's struggle.

1053
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,520
It's a final segment of the day.
Now let's make it a double.

1054
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,280
Let's Make It a Double is
presented by Blackwood

1055
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,880
Distilling Company.
It's the part of the show where

1056
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,280
we pick a movie to pair up with
this one to make the perfect

1057
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,560
double feature.
Brad, I am not going to be

1058
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,120
pairing this movie up with
Silence.

1059
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,400
That would be 6 hours of
watching movies.

1060
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,400
What order would you put those
two films in?

1061
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,840
Oh.
Gosh, I'd probably do silence

1062
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,680
first, because somehow silence
is an even bigger downer than

1063
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,040
this movie.
Yeah, dude.

1064
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,040
Oh man.
I am going to pair this movie up

1065
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:13,880
with one that just came out a
couple years ago called

1066
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,680
BlackBerry.
It was about the making of the

1067
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,440
BlackBerry, and it's filmed in a
very big, short Wolf of Wall

1068
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,720
Street kind of way.
It's a really funny movie.

1069
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:27,440
It's really improv heavy.
Glenn Howerton from It's Always

1070
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:31,200
Sunny in Philadelphia is
unbelievable in that movie.

1071
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,240
I think it'd be a fun pairing to
watch this and BlackBerry

1072
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,600
back-to-back.
I have never heard of that film.

1073
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,120
Oh, it's real good, Brad.
You'd like it.

1074
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:41,840
I'm, I'm, I'm ready.
I'm going to watch it.

1075
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,840
I am going to pair this with a
film I just watched again

1076
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,400
recently because it is a great
background film when you're

1077
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,440
writing a ton of addresses on
envelopes.

1078
01:01:53,240 --> 01:02:00,480
And I think that both of these
films follow 1 character who

1079
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:05,120
experiences a ton of things but
ends the movie kind of where

1080
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,840
they were at at the start.
I'm going to pair this with the

1081
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,920
social Network.
I like it.

1082
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,080
Another movie that came out in a
similar era.

1083
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,280
I I think that was 2010.
This is 2013.

1084
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,400
And I, I think that they're both
just made by master Craftsman.

1085
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,920
And while there's not, there's
not like a ton of things that

1086
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,840
tie them together, I think
they're both just ridiculously

1087
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:32,600
well made movies about singular,
interesting human beings.

1088
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,440
Yeah.
The social network really did

1089
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:39,080
kick off this sub genre of
cautionary tales about super

1090
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,280
successful people.
Were the ideas like you have

1091
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:43,920
gained the whole world and lost
your soul?

1092
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,600
This is one of them.
Social Networks one of them.

1093
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,640
I've mentioned this movie called
The Founder before as well with

1094
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,360
Michael Keaton, where he plays
Ray Kroc from McDonald's.

1095
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,480
That's a really good movie.
Yeah, dude, I think The Social

1096
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,640
Network is a brilliant pairing
with this movie.

1097
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:02,200
Thanks man, I like to do my do
my homework, do research to put

1098
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,200
a lot of time and effort into
this as you know.

1099
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,400
All right, so there are our
picks for Let's Make it a

1100
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,840
Double.
Whatever you choose to pair this

1101
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,680
movie with, you can always make
it a double with Blackwood

1102
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,840
Distilling Company.
And if you go to

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Brad, it's time for us to give
final scores on this movie.

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You know, I do still have notes
that we never even got to, but

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I, I think we've said what we
need to say on The Wolf of Wall

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Street.
It's a really good movie that I

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think has become more
influential over the years than

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I ever expected it to be, and
quite frankly, one of the best

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comedies of the 21st century.
I, I don't think it's a perfect

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01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,920
movie, but I'm gonna, I'm gonna
hold off on the yes or no

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01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,760
question on modern classic, but
I will say that I'm gonna give

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01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:58,960
this movie an 8.5 out of 10.
I think I'm at a nine out of 10,

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01:03:58,960 --> 01:03:59,680
Bob.
Wow.

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01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:05,480
It's it is a movie I want to
give like a three out of 10 to

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01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:09,120
just based on the content.
It is a movie I will never ever

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recommend anyone watch because I
don't know if it's good for

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anyone's soul to watch it.
I, but I, I just can't deny that

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Scorsese is a absolutely
stunningly good director that

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01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:30,160
just continues to make
incredible films.

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01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:36,000
The the craft here is, is so
obvious and it's such a well

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01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,880
made movie that I, I, yeah, 9
out of 10 for me.

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01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:44,640
All right, so we're coming to an
average of an 8.75 out of 10.

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01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,160
Now, Brad, the question before
us is this a modern classic?

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01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,080
Yes, and I'll never recommend it
to anyone.

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01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,040
I'm going to say yes.
I also think that this is like,

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01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,920
you know, if we're talking about
the tier lists and S tier, ABCI

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01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,880
think this is like a tier
Scorsese for me, it still

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01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:09,080
doesn't touch I I still think
Goodfellas is like the platonic

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ideal of a Scorsese movie and
this doesn't quite touch that

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01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,840
for me, But it's really, really
good.

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01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:19,640
And I think that Scorsese's
second tier is better than 90%

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01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,760
of film makers best tier.
So yes, I do think it's a modern

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01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,320
classic.
Not even best tier best.

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01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:26,600
Movie.
Yeah, 100%.

1138
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:32,480
All right, so like I said, 8.75
out of 10 for us on average.

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01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,400
But we'd like to know what you
think.

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01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,840
You can find us on all of our
social media accounts to tell us

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01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:41,880
about your favorite debaucherous
moment in The Wolf of Wall

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01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,880
Street.
Facebook, Twitter, Instagram,

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01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,480
TikTok and YouTube at Film
Whiskey.

1144
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,480
What about?
What about LinkedIn?

1145
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,720
Bob, please.
Spam my LinkedIn with

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01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,480
horrifically explicit clips of
this movie, folks.

1147
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:56,960
That's what I need my boss to
see.

1148
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,720
Absolutely man.
Also, if you want to talk about

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01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:06,320
those explicit clips, you can
find our Discord server at the

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01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,240
end of every single one of our
show notes.

1151
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,680
Dude, you're going to be doing
so much moderation of our

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01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:14,040
Discord now.
Don't don't invite explicit

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01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:15,560
clips on.
What are you doing, man?

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01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,120
Next week we're going to be
looking at a Best Picture winner

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01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,600
and we're going to be doing some
more whiplash when it comes to

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01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:29,000
the themes of our movies as we
look at the 2015 Film Spotlight.

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01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,800
So join us for that next week.
But until then, I'm Bob Book.

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01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,920
I'm Brad Gee.
And we'll see you next time.

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Music.