The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe / Clontarf Classic Blend
Join us on a magical journey through the wardrobe into the mystical land of Narnia and a taste of Ireland with Clontarf Classic Blend. In this episode of the Film & Whiskey Podcast, we dive deep into the 2005 cinematic adaptation of C.S. Lewis's beloved novel, "The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe," followed by a detailed review of the smooth and flavorful Clontarf Classic Blend Irish whiskey.
Timestamps:
(0:00) Intro
(9:15) Brad Explains
(13:16) Performances and Themes
(35:25) Clontarf Classic Blend Review
(43:22) Two Facts and a Falsehood
(48:00) Final Analysis
(57:42) Let's Make it a Double and Final Scores
Dive into the enchanting world of Narnia in our latest Film & Whiskey episode where we explore the epic movie battles, the rich Christian symbolism, and the mystical allure of the wardrobe that leads to Narnia. "The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe" not only captivates with its visual effects and heartfelt performances but also offers a deep dive into themes of bravery, sacrifice, and redemption. Tilda Swinton’s portrayal of the White Witch brings a chilling depth to the classic battle between good and evil, complemented by the majestic presence of Aslan.
Switching from the fantastical to the flavorful, this episode also features a review of Clontarf Classic Blend, a whiskey that offers a smooth gateway for beginners into the world of Irish whiskeys. With its affordable luxury and rich flavor profile that includes notes of caramel and vanilla, Clontarf Classic Blend pairs wonderfully with the adventurous spirit of our Narnia discussion. Whether you’re a fan of epic fantasy films or the nuanced world of distilled spirits, this episode serves as your guide to both.
From analyzing the intricate film adaptation techniques and the legacy of C.S. Lewis’s work to discussing the best ways to enjoy Clontarf whiskey, our hosts, Bob and Brad, ensure an engaging and insightful discussion. They even throw in a fun segment, "Two Facts and a Falsehood," challenging you to discern truth from fiction about the movie and the whiskey.
Join us as we blend cinema and spirits in a unique concoction that's sure to delight both movie buffs and whiskey aficionados alike. Whether you're revisiting this childhood classic or discovering the rich tastes of Irish whiskey, this episode promises to enhance your appreciation for both.
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In 2005, director Andrew Adamson
and starred Georgie Henley gave
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the world an earnest
interpretation of one of the
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world's most beloved children's
books.
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In 2024 we go cheap and we go
Irish.
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The film is The Chronicles of
Narnia, The Lion, The Witch and
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the Wardrobe.
The Whiskey is Clontarf Classic
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Blend, or as I like to call it,
the Clonicles of Tarfia.
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Hey, we will be reviewing both
of those chronicles, Bob.
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This is the the.
Filming Whiskey Podcast
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Welcome to the Film and Whiskey
Podcast, where each week we
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review a classic movie and a
glass of whiskey.
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I'm Bob Buck.
I'm Brad G.
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And today we are looking at the
third highest grossing film of
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2005.
The Chronicles of Narnia, Colon,
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The Lion The Witch and the
Wardrobe.
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Now, Brad, I've already said
something that I feel like I
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need to correct.
I said this was the third
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highest grossing film of the
year.
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It was on a worldwide scale.
On a domestic scale it was the
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4th highest grossing film of the
year.
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And once again we find ourselves
in the middle of this season
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where we are reviewing high
grossing films with a fork in
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the road.
We have reviewed the top two
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grossing films of this year,
which were Star Wars Episode 3.
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And what was the other one?
Who cares?
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Cause Star Wars Episode 3.
What a movie, man.
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Oh, A Goblet of Fire, Harry
Potter and the Goblet of Fire.
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Oh yeah, and so yeah, three and
four were either Steven
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Spielberg's War of the Worlds or
The Chronicles of Narnia.
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Which I I want to watch War of
the Worlds at some point.
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It is a fantastic movie until
like, the last five minutes, and
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even then it's still a really
good movie.
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I have a sneaking suspicion
we'll probably watch it someday.
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We we just like Spielberg.
So I'm I'm assuming that we're
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going to continue watching
Spielberg stuff the farther we
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get into this podcast, you know?
Speaking of Tom Cruise.
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We had first thing, we hadn't
spoken of Tom Cruise, but but go
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ahead.
Literally yesterday Baba, I was
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running an event for my for my
work and we had a participant
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from Singapore and she told me
that I looked like Tom Cruise.
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Wow.
And I said, I am that short.
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Thank you so much for the
compliment.
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I'm not going to, I'm not going
to crash that.
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Dream for you.
It made my day, man.
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Yeah, I bet it did.
I'm not going to say anything
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else.
You You know what, Brad?
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You do look like Tom Cruise.
That's right.
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I do.
All right.
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Let's get into talking about the
Chronicles of Narnia folks.
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If this is your first time
listening to our podcast, we
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want to say hello.
Welcome in This is the Film and
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Whiskey Podcast.
We watch movies.
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We drink whiskey this year.
We are looking at the highest
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grossing films of each year from
1988 to 2019.
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Brad, as I've been saying the
last few weeks, we are in the
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sort of calm before the storm
where even though we're starting
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to get into IP Ville here and
Disneyville, it still seems like
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these are real movies, You know
what I mean?
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Like, this seemed like a big
deal of a movie when it came
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out, at least for Disney.
Oh, Chronicles was huge when it
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came out.
I I remember it like, really
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doing it.
It really made big waves,
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partially like in the Christian
world, 'cause it's a it's an A
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Christian IP that was taken
seriously, but also in the
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general populace, it seemed like
people really liked this movie.
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Yeah, especially people of a
certain age.
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This was, I think it did have
the the spectre of Disney
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hanging over it.
And it was.
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I think when people looked at it
less generously, it was always
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looked at as kind of this is
Disney's knock off of Lord of
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the Rings and it is both not as
good as Lord of the Rings and
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also has to be PG.
And so it can't be as good as
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Lord of the Rings.
And I think that was always kind
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of hindering it a little bit.
But at the end of the day, this
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is an adaptation of a children's
book and you can argue that Lord
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of the Rings is.
I wouldn't say that about Lord
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of the Rings, but.
No, This is The Hobbit is a
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adaptation of The Children.
Exactly.
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And I will say I think this is
better than the adaptations of
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The Hobbit in a number of ways.
You're deck on, right?
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It is, Bob.
You don't.
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You don't have Benedict's
Cumberbatch saying I am death at
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the end of the film, which is
the only.
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That's the best part of the
whole trilogy.
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Not just the best, the only good
part of those trilogies.
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All right.
So as we can start looking at
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Narnia, Brad, what is your
association with this IP like?
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Did you grow up reading the
books?
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Did you grow up watching the
movies?
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Where where are we on Narnia?
As a as a podcast?
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Yeah, I I love Narnia.
I grew up reading the books.
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I remember I, you know how you
have like early memories where
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you're like, I don't remember
anything else that was
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happening.
But I have a vague memory of
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being like 7 and watching the
old, I believe, BBC like
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television movies.
Do you know what I'm talking
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about?
So I I do recall watching
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Eustace turn into a dragon and
back on the BBCTV show that's
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that's emblazoned upon my
memory.
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So I yeah, I have been very
closely affiliated with Lewis's
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works here for for a long, long
time and I remember when this
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came out, being very excited.
Yeah, and I'm in the opposite
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camp.
I mean, I didn't.
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I didn't grow up Christian and I
didn't grow up reading fantasy.
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So like, that kind of took me
out of the running for being a
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Narnia fan.
And so, you know, after I became
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a Christian later in life and
went to college and studied
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theology, CS Lewis's books, non
Narnia books were always
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recommended to me.
And I I love Lewis, and Mere
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Christianity is one of my
favorite books of all time.
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Dude, the Great Divorce.
Oh, dude, I love The Great
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Divorce so much.
It's so good.
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That's my let's make it a
double.
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Read The Great Divorce and then
watch this movie.
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Yes, yes.
But I will say like it, it came
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with that sort of, like,
evangelical snootiness that
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people would be like, you never
read Narnia.
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You never watch Narnia.
No, I didn't.
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Super funny because, like, Lewis
is so Catholic.
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And also, but Lewis has a great
quote about chronological
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snobbery, and I think that goes
over a lot of Christians heads
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anyway.
So at some point I was just
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like, I'm not going to read
Narnia.
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It was more of like a stamp my
foot and cross my arms.
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Like I don't need Narnia.
I'm going to read Harry Potter.
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I don't need Narnia.
I was already past the target
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age and I was reading Lewis's
stuff for adults and loving it,
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and people were like, well, you
don't know about Aslan.
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I'm like, you.
Who the hell cares?
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You know what I mean?
Like, mind your business.
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So my association with Narnia
was way different.
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And I think, honestly, this
movie was probably my first
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exposure to the world of Narnia
at all.
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And so it's a really interesting
place to start, because being
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familiar with the books now, it
is both a pretty faithful
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adaptation of the book and also
kind of a lackluster adaptation
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of the book in a lot of ways.
And I'm excited to dive into
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talking to you about it, Brad,
because Lord of the Rings this
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is not.
But I do think that it is a
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pretty good movie on its own
merits and not just a pretty
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good Lord of the Rings knockoff.
Yeah, 100%.
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I as I was watching this film,
you feel the Lord of the Rings
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influence, like pushing this
movie forward.
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And yet this movie remains too
silly to ever like.
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Dive into the depths that Lord
of the Rings has created for
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sure and and the beautiful thing
is it should be silly.
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Like you're following a group of
four children who become Knights
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in a matter of a day and they're
they're all of a sudden they're
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kingly because Aslan says that
they're kingly.
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Like there's so much more going
on here than just what you see
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on the screen and that makes it
it is what it is.
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And I I I think when you look at
what it's trying to do, I think
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it does a a relatively good job.
Yeah, I'm kind of in that place
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too.
And and it is OK to watch a
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movie that is pretty good.
And honestly, Brad, it's kind of
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freeing for this podcast because
when we watch movies that have
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reputations of being greats,
then it's like, Oh my gosh, we
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have we have the weight of
critical consensus on our side
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here or we're working against us
and now it's like we're just
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watching a movie that's pretty
good.
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It's got a 6.9 on IMDb and we
can talk about.
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Like a little low, a little low.
But like, not terribly low.
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I was surprised to see it under
seven.
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I I would have thought it was
like a 7273.
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All right, man, Let's get into
our first segment of the day,
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which we call.
Brad explains.
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Brad's going to give us the
movie plots with only 60 seconds
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ticking on the clock, so let's
go ahead and hear your take with
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this little segment that we
call.
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Brad explains.
Brad Explains is the part of the
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podcast where Brad breaks down
the plot of the movie that he
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has just seen, often for the
first time.
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I have not asked you this yet,
Brad.
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How many times have you seen
this movie?
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This is probably in, you know,
one of my highest watched films
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about 3-4 times.
This is time #2 for me.
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I saw this in the theater in
2005.
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I have not seen it since.
So it's kind of cool to revisit
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because I remember like vague
things about it.
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I remember certain images or I
thought I did and and it was
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really nice to revisit it after
almost 2 decades and get a
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better picture of what the movie
actually is versus what I've
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made it out to be, which is just
a knock off Lord of the Rings.
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Honestly, that's kind of how I
felt last week with passion,
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where I'm like, yeah, I like
vaguely remember watching that.
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Like I think twice.
Like, right when it came out.
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And then I hadn't seen it in 20
years and was like, yeah, I kind
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of remember some, you know,
weird old baby stuff.
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But I I don't know.
I cried a lot.
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Can I tell you a a quick story
about the Passion of Christ?
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So in my town growing up, there
was the like the Multiplex movie
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theater and then there was a
theater across town that only
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had one screen.
It was like a big old movie
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theater and they would get
second run movies.
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And I had seen The Passion with
a church group when it first
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came out at the Multiplex and
then like three months later it
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was playing at the other
theater.
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And one of my friends had said
like, I really want to see The
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Passion, but I I haven't had a
chance.
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And so we we went to see The
Passion of the Christ together
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in this big empty movie theater
where, like, the only other
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person in the movie theater sat
in the row right behind us.
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And we're like 14 years old.
And of course, like we're
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teenagers, so we're hungry all
the time.
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So we get a big bucket of
popcorn to watch The Crucifixion
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of Christ.
And like mid Crucifixion, the
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bucket of popcorn falls off my
lap and lands on like all the
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way upside down on the floor.
And when we try to pick it up,
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all the popcorn spills out.
And so now we're giggling, and
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we're trying to kick the
popcorn, like, under the chairs
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in front of us to tide the
evidence.
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It was perhaps the most
sacrilegious thing I've ever
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done, Brad.
It was that it was an accident.
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But my memory of the passion is
like, this is what you're doing
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while the crucifixion is
happening.
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Dude, I can just see it now.
I am making all things new,
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mother.
Popcorn.
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Everywhere, everywhere.
All right.
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On that note, Brad, you have 60
seconds to break down the plot
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of this movie, The Chronicles of
Narnia, and go.
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During World War Two.
Oh wait, Bob.
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You you you didn't get to pass
the intro in there, yeah.
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The Chronicles of Narnia, The
Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe
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is a film about the four Pevency
children who are shipped off in
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the middle of World War 2 to the
country of the side of England.
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They live in a house owned by an
old, eccentric professor.
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In the midst of exploring the
house, they find themselves lost
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in a magical wardrobe where
whereupon they stumble into a
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land an entire country called
Narnia.
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Once they're in Narnia, Lucy
goes 1st and comes back and
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tries to convince her brothers
and sisters about it.
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Edmund goes at some point as
enchanted by the White Witch,
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who tells him to bring his
siblings back to her.
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Eventually they all make it in.
The White Witch captures Edmund.
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The other three siblings go on
an adventure to find Aslan who
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will help them save Edmund.
Once they are there, they save
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Edmund, but Aslan has to
sacrifice his life for Edmund's
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betrayal, upon which Aslan has a
deeper magic is resurrected.
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Definitely not like last week's
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And he saves the day killing the
white witch.
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And dude, when Aslan says it is
finished.
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Oh, come on man, get out Bob.
You can go kick, Ross.
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It's fine.
It's fine.
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There's there's really good
moments in this movie.
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That one didn't quite land for
me.
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Oh man.
Here's The thing is, like in the
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book there there's certain
things that I think are not
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unadaptable but certainly lost
in translation when you when you
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adapt from one medium to the
next.
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And one of the famous lines from
the book is right at the end of
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the movie here as well, where
where they say Aslan is not a
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tame lion, but he's a good one.
And like when you read that in
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the context of the theology of
the book and this is a very
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obvious naked metaphor for the
death and resurrection of
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Christ.
And when you when I know right
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when you read that in the book,
it's like, oh, that hits really
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hard in the context of the
movie.
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It's just dialogue between
Tumnus and Lucy.
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And it it just kind of doesn't
like.
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It's just two lines that are
split between 2 characters and
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you almost don't really hear it.
It doesn't land with the same
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impact.
And in the book, yes, as land
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doing those things and saying it
is finished, like absolutely,
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yeah, 'cause I 'cause it's right
there and I get it, 'cause I'm
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seeing, I'm seeing the words.
It just doesn't quite work as
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well for me in the context of
this movie.
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And sure, you know, it's not
that it doesn't work at all.
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It's just that you're kind of
like at the Leonardo DiCaprio
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pointing at the screen meme.
You're like, I see it.
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I see what you did there, Jesus.
Yeah, IIA 100% agree with you on
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the Aslan's not a safe lion, but
he's good like like that.
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Just didn't feel.
It just felt like, weird.
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Partially because they never set
up that he's like not safe.
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Like, I don't know.
Yeah, it feels like that line
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would have been better if it
was.
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And I think in the book it's
when Beaver is describing as and
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that that would make a lot more
sense than like as he's leaving
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the scene, like, Oh yeah, he's
not safe, but he's good.
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It's like, well, we already knew
that he was good.
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And also that he's not tame and
we just saw him eat a woman's
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face like 3 minutes ago.
What are you what are you
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talking about?
Yeah, Tilda.
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Poor Tilda Swinton, man.
Yeah, you know what Fun fact
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this is Apocryphal to the books.
But after Aslan ate her face, he
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wandered off and became the main
lion in the Siegfried and Roy
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show.
Yeah.
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Wow, that's really cool.
I didn't know that.
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Just eating faces left and
right.
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So Brad, oh, you mentioned
something about how they don't
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really set up things in the
movie.
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And that's one of my main points
that I'd like to hear from you
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about.
I say all the time like we don't
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need all this back story, like
just get us into the movie.
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And I'm kind of like eating my
words a little bit with this
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movie because.
This whole season, man, I I feel
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like there's been a few movies
where you're like, I want 10
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more minutes of qui gon, Give me
a back.
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Story baby.
I know.
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And and this movie in
particular, it's like, I think
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it's 1/2 hour too long.
But I think that it also it
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needs to lose that half hour and
then give like 4 minutes back
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into just giving me some sort of
context for like where are these
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children living?
Who is this guy?
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What what's the relationship?
Is he an uncle?
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Like, I don't.
Did I miss a line of dialogue?
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And then all of a sudden, like,
they find this wardrobe, they're
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in Narnia, they come back and
they talk to the professor and
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he's like, yeah, I don't know,
like maybe that does.
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That does happen and it's like,
wait, what?
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Like, are you aware of the
what's going on here?
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Not just any professor,
Professor Horace Slughorn from
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Hogwarts.
Of course, Jim Broadbent.
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My point being I don't feel like
they really established and
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again, like he is not Narnia, so
they want to get to the Narnia
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parts.
I get that.
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But like, who is this man?
From whence did this wardrobe
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come?
How does he know about his
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magical powers?
Like just a little bit of world
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building would have been really
helpful there.
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I I can't disagree with you
more.
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I like, I think that the opening
like 30 minutes of this movie
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are literally perfect.
Like the the opening bombing
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scene is great.
It establishes the characters
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and what they want and who they
are And the the rift that is
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growing between the children and
like them getting sent off to
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the country to somebody that
they don't really know works
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perfectly because the film is is
given from the viewpoint of the
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children.
And so the children are being
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sent off to this weird eccentric
uncle person that their mother
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knows that they don't know
anything about.
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And you discover things about
the professor as they do.
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And I I just, I think that that
part of it was perfect.
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You don't need the explanation.
You just need to see it from the
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kids point of view so that you
get that feeling of like
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uncertainty.
And I I don't know what's going
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on and I'm away from home and I
I don't know who this person is
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and this this housekeeper is
kind of a bee and we're we're
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running away from her.
And I I just, I think that if
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there's anything of this movie
that needed needed to be
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explained more It's a lot of the
stuff in Narnia that like when
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you started talking I thought
you were going to say like, yeah
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there's so much stuff happening
in Narnia that I wish I had more
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context for.
And I would have said yes, I I'm
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with you 100%.
But the opening part of the
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movie, man, I'm, I'm all in on
that.
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That for me was like a nine out
of ten.
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I thought they were hitting on
all cylinders.
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Cool.
OK, so moving on, I just and
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again like it's it's a nitpick
for me, but it's also the part
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of the movie that matters the
least.
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So it's like I, you know, I'm
not going to argue with with you
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on that.
OK, let's dive into the
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performances here a little bit.
And this is an interesting movie
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to talk about performances,
because usually the child actors
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are the performances that we try
to talk about, either the least
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or the last, because it's like
you don't want to criticize kid
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performances.
But this movie.
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Boy, are we getting ready to.
This movie is centered on four
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different child actor
performances.
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Have you ever seen a movie with
like 4?
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Lead child actors.
No, I mean like, like Charlie
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and the Chocolate Factory or
like, you know, the old Willy
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Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.
But Yep, that's anchored by
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Grandpa Joe and and Gene Wilder.
Like, yeah, the stars of this
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movie are four children.
The youngest of which is like
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the most on screen.
Yes, and they're all pretty good
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for children.
Like you do have to grade them
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on the scale of children actors,
but on the scale of children
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actors, they're all like an 8
out of 10 I would say.
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Yeah, I was.
That was the main thing I wanted
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to take note of.
I think that if I had to rank
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them in terms of like who I
think is is best, I would
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probably go.
Lucy, Edmond and Susan are kind
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of both interchangeable in the
middle for me.
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And I think that the oldest boy,
Peter, I I don't have the
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actor's name pulled up.
William Mosley.
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William Mosley I I think he's
the least.
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There's moments where I'm like,
oh he's a solid 8 1/2 out of 10
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B actor.
But there's also a few where I'm
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like, you don't really have any
emotion going on in your face.
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What's What's going on, dude?
Yeah.
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And there's also a few moments
where they ask the kids to have
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an outpouring of emotion and you
can kind of see them straining
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for I need my body needs to
produce tears right now.
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So it like and and that those
kind of moments really do take a
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viewer out of the actual movie.
At least they did for me.
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And you know, like when Aslan
dies, spoiler alert, when when
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Aslan dies and we get them kind
of weeping on his body.
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It's effective, but it could
have been more effective.
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And I think that's kind of my my
whole, if I could sum up my
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entire take on this movie, it's
like it is effective.
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I am going to give this movie a
good score.
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But I was left wondering through
most of the film, like how much
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more effective could this have
been if only X?
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Like there was always something
in almost every scene, whether
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it was man, if this was just a
little bit, if the set didn't
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look so fake here, or if the CGI
was a little better, or if this
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didn't have like AC minus
director like something could
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have something could have made
this movie better.
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Bob Salmon.
Oh, I'm horror.
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Do we, Andrew?
I was going to say, do we have a
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big Andrew Adamson fan in the
house today?
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It's.
Just a huge Adamson stand over
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here.
Do we know any other movies he's
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directed?
Well, let's see.
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He directed.
No, he did Prince Caspian after
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this.
Oh, he directed Shrek Two and
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Shrek One.
He directed Shrek.
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One dude.
There you go.
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See, this is world famous Andrew
Adamson.
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My guy.
He's so forgettable that I
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literally wrote his name into my
intro like 3 weeks ago for Shrek
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that I didn't even.
November it Nope.
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All right, so let.
I mean seriously though, my take
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being this is pretty good, it
could be a lot better.
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Is that a fair take on the movie
overall?
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I think it is.
And I I think that the reason it
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it falls away from being great
is because they don't.
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There's so much to put into this
movie and and it's wild because
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the actual book of you know, The
Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe
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isn't a long book.
Like you're not you're not
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dealing with The Fellowship of
the Ring.
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And yet, I felt like they kind
of rushed through so much of the
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Narnia stuff that I I was always
left wanting to know more about
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Narnia.
I think that everything through
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00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:45,000
Edmund's visit to Narnia,
everything after that just feels
427
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,680
rushed and like, OK, I guess
there's Santa now.
428
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:54,440
And I I guess freaking Santa.
Discount Dumbledore wanders into
429
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,920
this movie.
It's like, ho ho ho kids, here's
430
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,360
a sword.
Go fight a witch.
431
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,960
Oh, that was one of the things
that pissed Tolkien off about
432
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,400
Lewis's books.
He was like, listen man, you
433
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:14,880
can't write fantasy and just put
put Christmas like Santa Claus
434
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,440
in your fantasy novel.
That's not OK.
435
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,280
Tell me about Christmas and
Narnia.
436
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,320
Are they aware of the birth of
Jesus Christ?
437
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,200
Like what is going on?
Dang.
438
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,000
I better won't believe that they
are.
439
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:33,120
Oh man, I it's stuff like that
that as an adult, I'm like, I'm
440
00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:37,120
kind of with Tolkien on this,
but when you're a kid reading
441
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,960
like Chronicles of Narnia, it's
this moment of like they
442
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,640
celebrate Christmas too.
And like, you know, it feels
443
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,080
like a cheap way of garnering
audience, you know, approval.
444
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,800
But when your audience is like 4
to 9 year olds, who cares?
445
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,880
Man, everybody likes Christmas.
So last week we reviewed, I
446
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,080
guess two weeks ago we reviewed
Pirates of the Caribbean, and
447
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,640
you talked about how incredibly
violent that movie was.
448
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,960
And I got to be honest man, I
remember seeing this movie in
449
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,680
the theater and being kind of
like this is trying really hard
450
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,000
to do the Battle of Pellinore
Fields from the third Lord of
451
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,400
the Rings.
And this is a poor imitation of
452
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,760
that.
And I will eat my words from 15
453
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,920
year old Bob today, because the
especially the first half of the
454
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,760
battle, there is some really
inventive camera work when
455
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,520
you're following the the eagle
bird, whatever they are as
456
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,200
they're dropping the rocks on
people.
457
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,200
The the Griffin, Bob.
Sure.
458
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,760
Whatever they the rocks hit
those guys with such impact and
459
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,720
it's like, Oh yeah, this is so
first point is Andrew Adamson, I
460
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,360
will give you credit you you
designed a really, really good
461
00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:51,160
half of a battle before they cut
away to Aslan, 'cause I think
462
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,800
the second-half of the battle is
kind of poopy.
463
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:58,520
But yeah, but secondly, what a
violent film this is to to
464
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:03,400
secure APG rating.
Many people getting slashed to
465
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,240
death, getting faces eaten,
getting crushed by rocks.
466
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,760
No blood though.
No blood so.
467
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,720
It's totally OK, yeah.
Do you think that there was
468
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:19,200
blood when Aslan ate her face?
Oh no, she's a she's a witch.
469
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,800
She just kind of poofed into
smoke.
470
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,640
Yeah, and they cut back to Aslan
and there's there's no, there's.
471
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:24,880
No blood?
No.
472
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,760
Can you Can you imagine if there
was just?
473
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,520
Just like her.
Her face.
474
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,880
The entire just flap of her face
just hanging from a tooth.
475
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,440
It's like in Return of the Jedi.
Like he's like throwing her arm
476
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,280
up in the air and like gobbling
it down.
477
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:47,840
Like he's the rancor burps some
some of her dreadlocks out.
478
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,880
Oh man, that would be
incredible.
479
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,960
Bob, I'm with you 100% on this
battle.
480
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,200
I think especially the first
half is killer.
481
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,960
I like the second-half.
I think the fight between Peter
482
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,960
and the White Witch is pretty
well done.
483
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,160
Not great for me.
There's something about seeing
484
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,880
like a traditional knight that I
realized I was like, I don't
485
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:21,280
know if I've ever seen in a
movie a truly traditional knight
486
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,360
who's like the main character
fighting with, like old school,
487
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,760
like chainmail and plate armor
and a shield and a sword.
488
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,560
And there was something about
that that I just it really, I
489
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,120
really enjoyed that at the end
of the fight scene, but do the
490
00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:41,160
opening part of the fight scene.
I also don't know if I've ever
491
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,240
seen such a cool geography laid
out like they're fighting in
492
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:50,480
this like hilly, like almost
like a Scottish Highland crags
493
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,560
and you see the armies like
pouring through it like water.
494
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,800
And I'm like, yeah, most fight
scenes that you ever see.
495
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,040
You know, Battle of Pelenor
Fields, you know, all these
496
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,760
famous things, they're either
set around like a fortification,
497
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,080
like Helms Deep, or they're just
in a giant open, empty space.
498
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,280
And I like I thought the choice
of geography was incredible for
499
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,280
the final battle.
I agree.
500
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:18,600
And one of the things that has
really bothered me about this
501
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,360
movie, upon this rewatch, it had
a $180 million budget.
502
00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:25,960
It was a huge budget for a movie
like this, and it's really clear
503
00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:28,960
that they put a lot of that
money into the CGI and they put
504
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,800
a lot of the money into the
special effects in the battle
505
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,400
scene.
And I think that especially in
506
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,880
the first part of that battle
scene, you get these huge
507
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,080
sprawling kind of vistas.
There's a lot of aerial shots
508
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,120
where the camera is literally
moving overhead.
509
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:47,720
It's really well done and and
you can see how much effort they
510
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,000
put into the coverage and the
filming of that sequence.
511
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,160
What really bothers me though is
like, there are times in this
512
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,560
movie where they'll just the the
kids will just be like I I was
513
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,160
right after they came out of the
waterfall and you could tell
514
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,360
that everything was green
screened and it was like, wow,
515
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,560
this must have been reshoots or
something Because like there's
516
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,640
some really bad green screening
going on.
517
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,240
And there are other times where
it just seems like, oh, this is
518
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,200
like this isn't even outside.
This is on a set in a sound
519
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,640
stage somewhere that you just
covered in fake snow.
520
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,920
And there are moments where the
sets just look really chintzy in
521
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,960
this movie.
And it it kind of pulls me out
522
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,920
of the movie.
And I don't know if it's just
523
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,640
the way they lit them, the way
they filmed them, the lensing
524
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,280
like, I just, I don't know
enough about the the movie
525
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,960
making magic that did not go
into parts of this movie.
526
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,880
But like, you know, I have to
imagine Lord of the Rings was
527
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,560
the same.
Everything there was, was built
528
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,040
on sound stages.
And yet those the way that they
529
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,360
shoot those scenes, I think
about like Rivendell and it's
530
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,880
like Oh my gosh, like this is
there's so much detail here and
531
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,880
ministerith and the kind of
grind that lives on the
532
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,920
Whitestone of ministerith.
It's like everything feels lived
533
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,720
in, everything feels real, but
it still feels massive and
534
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,400
regal.
And Narnia kind of feels like it
535
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,200
exists in like a three square
mile radius and they're like,
536
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,440
yeah, we got to get over that
hill there and that's like the
537
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,000
end of Narnia.
And so, like, you never feel
538
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,440
like you're in this great, big
world.
539
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,600
And I think it's because of the
limitations of the filmmaking.
540
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,200
And that's what really sucked is
I wanted to.
541
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,960
I wanted this to be a world I
was curious about, but it felt
542
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,640
like it was like a small village
that I was getting curious
543
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,560
about.
I I think for me the reason that
544
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,640
that all kind of comes about is
with Lord of the Rings.
545
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:40,680
You have this deep sense of
adult adventure, like End of the
546
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,560
world type of stuff.
I think with Chronicles of
547
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,840
Narnia, because the main
characters are four children,
548
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:53,040
like as the viewer you just feel
like the stakes are lower.
549
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,560
Like I don't know how else to
describe it other than to say
550
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,480
everything in the world feels a
little more like a fairy tale
551
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,680
than a fantasy, you you know
what I mean?
552
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,400
Like Lord of the Rings is a
fantasy adventure.
553
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,360
Even though Tolkien like meant
it as a fairy tale and Lewis's
554
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,440
feels like a fairy tale, like it
feels like a place that
555
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,040
Tinkerbell would live in.
Yes, so much more so than like,
556
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,680
the grounded, gritty, real world
built in Lord of the.
557
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,120
Rings Well, and I think part of
that is like Lord of the Rings
558
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,960
has a very focused narrative of
like this and then this, but
559
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,120
this, so this and like
everything that we've ever
560
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,040
talked about with how to
construct a compelling
561
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,400
narrative.
Whereas I think fairy tale is
562
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,600
the perfect phrase for this Brad
because like other fairy tales,
563
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,680
even like Grimm brothers fairy
tales, it's not so much about
564
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,320
what happens in the fairy tale
as it is about the moral that
565
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,000
they're trying to teach and the
moral here is the gospel.
566
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,800
So the the actual motivations
for the characters sometimes
567
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,600
feel a little muddy or non
existent and they're told that
568
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,880
there's a prophecy and that
they're going to be kings and
569
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,520
Queens.
So let's go do this stuff.
570
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,640
And they're then their brother
gets kidnapped and they're like,
571
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,160
OK, well now we have to rescue
our brother.
572
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,000
But it still feels like there
are thinner character
573
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,600
motivations here than there are
throughout the Lord of the
574
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,440
Rings.
And it's because this is a fairy
575
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,720
tale and Lord of the Rings is
not.
576
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,360
I think you really hit the nail
on the head here.
577
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,120
Yeah, and that's that is a key
thing that I feel like is
578
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:28,320
underdeveloped is the well, this
is, this is a prophecy.
579
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,080
And so you know that this is
what's happening, dude.
580
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:36,200
All you have to do is have, like
have a recall.
581
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,200
So like you, they're in Beaver's
Hut talking to Mr. and Mrs.
582
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,600
Beaver and they're explaining
the prophecy.
583
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:48,040
And have you dude, have you seen
the clip of the Great British
584
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:53,200
Baking Show where the the woman
brings up a cake that is a
585
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:58,760
cartoon Beaver and the and the
lady goes, let's talk about your
586
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,160
Beaver.
Listen, I like I watched this
587
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,440
whole movie without chuckling.
But what are you saying?
588
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,200
They're in Beaver's Hut.
He's like, what a euphemism.
589
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,440
I'm sorry.
Please finish your point while I
590
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,160
continue being juvenile.
I'm trying to set the stage
591
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,040
here, Bob.
All you have to do is have Mr.
592
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,240
Beaver tell the four children
like the prophecy.
593
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,000
Like, like line by line, like a
poem.
594
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,320
Read the prophecy.
It's like, you know, 6 lines
595
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,880
long.
Doesn't take that long and have
596
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,760
the music that Mister Tumnus
plays on his little little flute
597
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,680
to put Lucy to sleep.
Have that playing like really
598
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,360
softly in the background and
boom, you have an epic scene
599
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,120
with an epic prophecy and now
all of the children, right?
600
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,960
Because the movie is filmed from
the children's perspective now,
601
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,640
we, the audience and the
children have received the
602
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,160
prophecy and it's been placed
upon us and we feel the
603
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,680
mysticism and there's cool music
playing in the background and
604
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,080
and I'm like, oh, that's that's
all you had to do.
605
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,199
And now you have the prophecy
and you have your motivation.
606
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,480
But instead it's just there's a
prophecy.
607
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,920
Go go go.
Yeah, a prophecy that like you
608
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,120
didn't even buy into.
There's just a prophecy that
609
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,880
people are going to come and
then they are kings and you seem
610
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,360
like those people, so go ahead.
You're going to come and then
611
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,840
then the Kings.
Listen, dude.
612
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,800
So one of the reviews that I
read for this movie was from The
613
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,480
New Yorker, and I almost sent
you the passage.
614
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,920
It was one of the funniest movie
reviews I've ever read.
615
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:41,360
And the the critic was talking
about how the the story of
616
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,239
Narnia has for decades stirred
the souls of the faithful.
617
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,320
But then he says, it has also
stirred the loins of
618
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,120
professional Freudians.
Then he laid out like the Why
619
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,080
what the Freudian reading of
this movie is.
620
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,520
Uh, huh.
First Lucy, then Edmund, then
621
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,920
all four children feel their way
uncertainly through the folds of
622
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,920
a deep furry passage and into
another world.
623
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:09,600
And boy, oh boy, if that isn't
the place where we need to break
624
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,400
for whiskey, Brad.
Yeah, Lewis the pedophile.
625
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,160
That's that's definitely the
take we wanted to come away with
626
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,000
here.
Let's drink some Clontarf.
627
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,040
What do you say?
I'm ready, man.
628
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:30,440
Let's get to it.
All right, so today we are
629
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:35,760
checking out Clontarf 1014
Classic Blend Irish Whiskey.
630
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,840
Brad, this is a cheap, cheap
Irish W1 that I've heard is good
631
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:46,520
as a mixer and I picked it up on
the OHLQ Ohio Liquor Last Call
632
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,200
shelf because they stopped
carrying this size of it or this
633
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,920
bottle or something.
It cost me like $11.00 and I
634
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,600
said boy oh boy is that a film
and whiskey selection right
635
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,200
there.
Heck yeah, dude.
636
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,040
So this is made by Pernod
Ricard.
637
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,080
They have a subsidiary called
Irish Distillers and they are
638
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,320
the ones who create this brand.
It's not attached to any
639
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,760
particular distillery because it
is a blended Irish whiskey.
640
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,960
Apparently in Ireland there are
other things that are released
641
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,440
under the Clontarf brand, like a
single malt, but in the States
642
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,920
we only get this and so I am
very excited to dive into this
643
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,280
Brad.
It's been a while since we've
644
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,440
had a cheapo whiskey and it's
been a minute since we've had an
645
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,640
Irish whiskey, so like, we're
just crossing things off the
646
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,480
list here.
Well, and this is perfect to
647
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:34,520
pair with as the author of the
famed Cronkles of Narnia is
648
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,040
Irish.
And probably a fan of cheap
649
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,000
whiskey.
I don't know, man.
650
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,360
I I could see Lewis and Tolkien
putting down some really
651
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,640
expensive Scotch.
But also having debates with a
652
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,280
just a giant glass of Clontarf
in hand.
653
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,520
Oh yeah dude, 100% all.
Right, man, let's dive in.
654
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,880
I'm drinking this live.
You are drinking it in the past,
655
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,560
apparently.
I think you have notes to bring
656
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,160
here, so.
Yeah, hold on.
657
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,760
Let me get my time machine and
go back to when I was drinking
658
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,320
it.
Brad, what are you picking up on
659
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:09,160
the nose of Clontarf?
This is a a relatively pleasant
660
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,800
nose.
I think that it's got some it's
661
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,280
got some floral notes, it has
some like really nice light milk
662
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,400
chocolatey things going on.
There's some honeysuckle.
663
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,560
It it's overall a really
pleasant, light, unoffensive
664
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,640
nose.
If I had to give a negative
665
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:33,520
note, it feels young and that's
what you'd expect.
666
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,560
Here.
I think it's decent.
667
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,760
I'll give it a 6 1/2 Bob.
Brad, I really like this nose
668
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,480
for what it is.
It is very light, very airy.
669
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,600
If you look at the color of it
in the glass.
670
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,760
It is not a very dark whiskey,
but it has what I love on a lot
671
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,200
of these Irish whiskeys that
Scotches sometimes don't have,
672
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:55,400
which is a sort of almost like a
floral heathery kind of note to
673
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,400
it.
It's like really deep honey and
674
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,840
some floral as well.
And I really like that.
675
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,440
You can tell that it's gonna be
a little bit harsh on the
676
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,560
pallet, or it's at least hinting
that way, but it's covered up
677
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,880
really, really nicely by these
softer notes.
678
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,200
I'm digging this, man.
I'm gonna give it a 7 out of 10
679
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,120
on the nose.
Yeah.
680
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,960
I think as we get into the
pallet here it the flavor drops
681
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,560
off a little bit because it just
there's a youth that underlies
682
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,480
this that you can't get away
from.
683
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,920
But I will say it has some
really nice vanilla notes that
684
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,040
are strong for me.
There's some rose petals, some
685
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:37,000
toffee and the young grain taste
isn't bad, but it is present.
686
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,680
I I think I'll come down just a
little bit from the nose, but
687
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,320
I'll I'll stick it a six out of
10.
688
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,560
I don't know how to say what I'm
going to say in a moment without
689
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,080
it sounding like super harsh on
this whiskey.
690
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:52,320
But when you're tasting whiskey
for review purposes, you're not
691
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,200
just sipping it and immediately
swallowing it.
692
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,640
You're like swishing it around
your mouth.
693
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,240
You're kind of kicking it from
the back front of your mouth to
694
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:01,120
the back of your mouth on the
front of the palate.
695
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,320
This is like syrupy sweet, and
it's actually pretty viscous
696
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,440
too.
I thought it was going to be
697
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,800
super thin, but it coats the
mouth really nicely.
698
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,640
But it's it's almost sickly
sweet.
699
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,680
And when I went to kick it to
the back of my mouth, it just
700
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:18,120
hit this one small part of my
tongue that I got like a really
701
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,880
weird, like, really weird note
on.
702
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,200
And it almost made me gag for a
second.
703
00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:26,360
Not because it was like it
tasted so bad, but because I
704
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,680
think it tipped something off in
my brain that it was going to go
705
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,520
to bad places.
And so I was like, and then it
706
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,200
didn't like it, just it it
became a very sort of smoky,
707
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,720
almost ashy, sort of bitter
taste on the back of my tongue.
708
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,200
But what I'm left with is this
sense that they're trying to
709
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:48,240
cover up some of the harsher
edges with a really sickly sweet
710
00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:50,120
flavor.
Now they obviously are not.
711
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:51,440
They're not adding anything to
this.
712
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,520
They're not doing that.
But you can tell that this is
713
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,960
not a a really high quality
whiskey and BA, very well aged
714
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,040
whiskey because those harsh
edges are still there and
715
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,280
they're it just kind of tastes
like they dumped sugar on top of
716
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,600
a pretty rough whiskey.
It's not unpleasant, but I think
717
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,680
my palate was trying to tip me
off to something here.
718
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,520
Brad, I'm going to give it a six
out of 10 on the flavor.
719
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,560
And I I probably sounded harsher
than I meant to be, but at the
720
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,760
end of the day, like this is a
$18.00 bottle of whiskey for a
721
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,000
reason.
Yeah, yeah, 100%, man.
722
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,200
I think that the finish is fine.
It's light and floral.
723
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,240
I give it a 6 1/2 on the finish.
I think a balance wise, I'll
724
00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:37,080
give it a 7 1/2.
I don't think that there is
725
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,200
anything wrong with this
whiskey.
726
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,240
I think that the negative notes
are consistent throughout.
727
00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:45,280
The positive notes are
consistent throughout.
728
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,680
And so because of that, I'm not
going to give it anything super
729
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:54,560
high, but a 7 1/2 on the balance
and Bob for 18 bucks like this
730
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,840
is a really solid value.
I'm going to give it a 7 1/2 out
731
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,360
of 10 here.
All right.
732
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,320
So just to recap, I'm going to
give mine, I'm going to go back
733
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,560
to where you started finish.
I'm going to give a 6 1/2 like
734
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,320
you balance.
I'll give a 7 1/2 like you.
735
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,200
And what'd you give on value?
7 1/2.
736
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,400
Yeah, I mean, I think that this
is about as good as you can find
737
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,280
for $18.00.
It's also like not a great
738
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,640
whiskey.
I'm not mad at it 'cause it's
739
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:29,400
$18.00, but there's a there's an
almost like Splenda sweetness to
740
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,240
this on the on the back part of
the palate and it's kind of
741
00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:34,840
hanging with me.
I don't know if it would make a
742
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,800
great mixer.
I think it's a little bit too
743
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,800
light to really stand up in a
cocktail.
744
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,040
You know, if you want to use
this for Irish coffee or
745
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,480
something like, go for it.
But it's a nice little sipper
746
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,840
when you have already had the
good stuff.
747
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,880
It's like Jesus at the the
wedding at Cana.
748
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,400
You know what I mean?
Like drink your good whiskey and
749
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,920
then bust out the Clontarf.
I'll give it a 7 1/2 as well,
750
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,680
Brad.
And that's taking me to a 34.5
751
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,200
out of 50.
Yeah, I am at a 34 out of 50
752
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,400
Bob.
Like I think this is a solid
753
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,400
Irish whiskey at a bargain
price.
754
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,720
I would probably pay like
$2324.00 for this.
755
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:18,040
So at at a sub 20 price, you
really can't beat this Bob.
756
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,640
No, you can't.
And we're coming out to a 34.25
757
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,640
out of 50 or 68 1/2 out of 100.
That sounds a little low, like a
758
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,480
68 is like a failing grade.
I actually think this is
759
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,360
significantly better than that.
But like at the end of the day
760
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,840
it's pretty much a six whiskey
across the board at a really
761
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,840
good price point.
I'm going to recommend this
762
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,640
Brad.
Like, you know, if you want to
763
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,080
try an Irish whiskey just to get
a sense of what it could taste
764
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,040
like, this is not a bad place to
start.
765
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,760
Yeah, 100%, man.
I I think that Klon Tarf is
766
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,760
doing good stuff here.
I kind of want to go to Ireland
767
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,400
and try some of the things they
have over there 'cause I can
768
00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:00,560
imagine a world where a little
better age single malt would be
769
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,600
really solid from this
distillery.
770
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,920
This might have been the perfect
thing to match up with this
771
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,480
movie.
Like, it is good and it it is
772
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:12,280
clearly hinting at and mimicking
other, better products.
773
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,200
But like, I'm not mad at it, you
know.
774
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,840
Yeah, 100% dude.
All right, let's get back into
775
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,680
talking about the Chronicles of
Narnia.
776
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:25,360
What do you say?
All right, everybody.
777
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,400
That was Clontarf.
Something, something, something,
778
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,760
a whiskey that we really liked
for what it was.
779
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,960
Yeah, And it was something.
Something something.
780
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,320
Yeah, What?
What was it actually called?
781
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:40,200
Clontarf Classic Blend.
Ah, that good old classic blend.
782
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,800
I do still like calling it the
clonicles of Tarpia, so continue
783
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:49,920
doing that.
The clontarficles of Narnia.
784
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,440
All right, Brad, after we took a
week off last week, I am very
785
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,360
eager to get into our next game,
which we call 2 facts and a
786
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,400
falsehood.
Brad is going to try to stump
787
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,840
your bomb.
Two are right and what is wrong?
788
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,880
2 facts and a falsehood. 2 Facts
and a Falsehood is the part of
789
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,400
the show where Brad presents me
with three items as fact about
790
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,640
the making of this movie, one of
which is a complete lie and I
791
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,440
have to figure out which one
that is.
792
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,000
Last week Brad said that he felt
guilty because he didn't want to
793
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,520
shame Catholic Jesus and so we
took took a week off.
794
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,320
I'm going to claim it as a moral
victory, if nothing else.
795
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,920
My record is.
This Jesus dying on the cross
796
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,640
for your sins is a moral victory
for you Bob.
797
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,440
Yeah.
It's not gone right.
798
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:43,560
That's a That's a trick.
Question.
799
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,200
I was gonna say, wait a minute.
I think I understand how this
800
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:50,080
works.
All right, so I'm sitting at
801
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,440
11:00 and 6:00 on the season.
Brad, let's see what you got.
802
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,640
Hit me with your two facts and a
falsehood.
803
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,880
Fact #1.
The wardrobe featured in the
804
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:05,040
film belonged to Lord Lord, Lord
George Cummington, Earl of
805
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,480
Belfast, CS Lewis's hometown.
Covington's father shared a
806
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,560
friendship with Lewis himself,
prompting his son to offer the
807
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,640
wardrobe for use in the film as
a tribute.
808
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,520
Fact #2 When the adults swearing
got out of hand on set, Georgie
809
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,680
Henley, who played Lucy, set up
a swear jar.
810
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,760
James McAvoy was supposedly the
worst offender.
811
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,920
Even her teenage costars had to
pay their toll.
812
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,680
Fact #3, the movie was primarily
shot in chronological order,
813
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,880
with the exception of the final
scene where the Pevencies fall
814
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,680
out of the wardrobe.
That scene was shot before all
815
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,760
of the outdoor shots, so that
the kids would still be pale and
816
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,880
look like they had and look like
they had at the film's
817
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,080
beginning.
OK, I'm just going to say this
818
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,320
now.
We have already made mention of
819
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,080
the Freudian reading of this
movie and we have made fun of
820
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:59,040
the word Beaver.
So I really hope that you didn't
821
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,600
just make up a character named
Lord Cummington.
822
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,200
That's all I'm gonna say.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna take it.
823
00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:08,960
I'm just gonna hope that one is
true.
824
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,480
I'm not gonna pick it as the
falsehoods because the Freudian
825
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,960
reading will be really weird if
that's the falsehood.
826
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,560
So #2 or #3?
I don't know man, #2 sounds
827
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,080
really plausible.
And James McAvoy loves to drop
828
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:27,000
an F bomb in a lot of movies #3
sounds really plausible too,
829
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,480
because not just because the
kids are are pale in those
830
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,520
sequences, but a lot of times
you only have locations secured
831
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,040
for a few days so you have to
shoot everything you can there.
832
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:47,680
Brad, I'm going to say that
Three is the falsehood because
833
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,080
they just didn't shoot it in
chronological order anyway, and
834
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,520
I have no other reason for
saying that other than I just
835
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,200
don't want it to be Lord
Cummington.
836
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:01,880
Bob, do you know why #2 and #3
sounded so plausible?
837
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,960
Because they're facts.
Because they're facts, baby.
838
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,400
You made-up Lord Cummington.
I did not.
839
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:15,240
I googled, make up a British
name and it came up with Lord
840
00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:19,640
George Cummington.
It is spelled COMING.
841
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,240
Sure it is, Brad.
It sure is.
842
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,200
Anytime that was so, that was
not a creation of of my own.
843
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:32,600
It was Google having a a bit of
a edible, complex Freudian
844
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,440
Freudian thing.
Anytime we watch a movie that
845
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,640
you'd say is dirty.
From now on, I'm just going to
846
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,800
say, oh, what did Lord
Cummington show up?
847
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:45,480
All right.
I will take my L Lord Cummington
848
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,200
got me again.
Brad he.
849
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,520
Got you again.
When did he get you?
850
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,640
The first time.
Don't ask, don't ask.
851
00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:57,800
Bro, this is this is a
children's movie.
852
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,000
Let's get back into talking
about Marnia and Brad.
853
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,720
We haven't talked about Tilda
Swinton, who is the top build
854
00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:06,560
person in this movie.
Really interesting career Tilda
855
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,680
Swinton has had.
She's been an working actress
856
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,360
since at least the 90s, maybe
earlier than that.
857
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,000
She's an indie darling.
She's still working in an
858
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:18,720
independent film a lot and like
she is known amongst the general
859
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:21,240
population for being like the
weird looking one.
860
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,640
And I I hate to say it like
that, but like she's a very
861
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:28,320
interesting looking face.
She's a phenomenal actress and I
862
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,280
had some weird struggles with
her performance here.
863
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:36,480
Not because she's bad, but I
almost feel like she's she gave
864
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:41,640
this move, this character, too
many layers for the movie that
865
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,440
was being made around her.
She's like she's developing a
866
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,400
very complex character because
the White Witch is not just
867
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,960
like, I'm going to shout at you
and be demonically evil.
868
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,720
She's cunning and she's really,
really good at tricking.
869
00:48:56,720 --> 00:48:59,040
Especially that scene with
Edmund at the beginning, She's
870
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,080
it's like chilling how you're
watching her manipulate a child.
871
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,760
She's not playing it with like a
wink to the camera.
872
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,360
She's not playing it as I'm, you
know, the witch with an apple
873
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,200
seducing Snow White.
It's it's like psychological
874
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,600
damage.
She's doing this kid and it's
875
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:21,440
played so well, but it almost
feels like the movie paints in
876
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,160
really broad strokes and it
almost needed somebody who was
877
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,480
more of a standard cartoonish
villain.
878
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,640
And so I feel weird saying that
like the performance doesn't
879
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:35,120
work, but it it kind of doesn't
work because she's doing more
880
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,360
than the movies doing around
her.
881
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,120
Bob, you know what?
You just said?
882
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,920
Tilda Swinton is too good for
this movie.
883
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,560
Kind of.
I mean, yeah.
884
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,680
I think there's a version of
this performance that she's just
885
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:54,760
like, OK, like, I'm just gonna
do the, like, Jeremy Irons as
886
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,560
Scar, like just ham it up, you
know, and and it's great.
887
00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:00,440
But she doesn't do that.
She's trying something more
888
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,520
subtle here and it kind of just
sticks out like a sore thumb, if
889
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:08,440
I'm being honest.
Oh man, I I will.
890
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,680
I have watched enough movies and
reviewed enough with you, Bob,
891
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,040
to know that you are not the
Snooty cinephile.
892
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:20,720
But but Tilda turns in a hell of
a performance here.
893
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,880
I like.
I don't know what there is to
894
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,280
complain.
She gives this movie a depth
895
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,520
that would not exist without
her.
896
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:33,560
I think the movie could work
with a Jeremy Irons a scar type
897
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,800
performance.
Like, I'm not saying that that
898
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:40,560
part of the point is invalid.
I guess what I'm saying is of
899
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:45,160
all the performances in this
movie, Tilda Swinton is an A+
900
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,880
and she doesn't need to be.
She could take her paycheck.
901
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,280
That's what I'm saying like.
A garbage performance, but she
902
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,920
doesn't.
This is this is Michael Caine
903
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,040
with a bunch of freaking Muppets
around him and it makes the
904
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,880
movie better.
And I am all in on Tilda Swinton
905
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,000
here.
That's a great analogy, dude,
906
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,520
because I I agree with the
analogy.
907
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,200
I don't agree that it makes the
movie better and it's but it's
908
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,640
not her fault so I'm not
complaining about her.
909
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,800
But it's like she is adding
layers and layers of depth to a
910
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:20,520
character that would be right at
home in Lord of the Rings and
911
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,840
and doesn't feel at home in this
movie.
912
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,360
And it's almost like, I don't
know, I just felt like I was
913
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,040
having the world of Narnia
opened up to me.
914
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,400
Every time I looked at her, I
was like, what is this?
915
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,960
I I feel wonderment at this
character.
916
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,160
And then every other character
is just like, oi, I'm a Beaver,
917
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,960
do you know what I mean?
Like there's just there's no,
918
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,560
there's no no other subtle
things happening in the whole
919
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,960
movie.
Oi, I'm a Beaver.
920
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,200
That's my whole personality.
Oh man.
921
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,080
Although Ray Ray Winstone
voicing that Beaver.
922
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,640
Oh, he's incredible.
It's so good.
923
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,560
It's so good, man.
Would you see him running around
924
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,000
with armor on?
You're like, yeah, why not?
925
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,720
Of course.
He's a warrior dude.
926
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:15,080
The the little back and forth
jibes or digs that Mister and
927
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,760
Misses Beaver taking each other
are incredible.
928
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,320
And they're all somehow related
to her cooking, you know?
929
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,560
Yes.
And she's like making fun of him
930
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,800
for like, drinking too much with
his buddy.
931
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,840
It See that man.
Those are the moments that work
932
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,640
in this movie.
Like when we get away from the
933
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,040
Here's a quest you are.
There's a prophecy.
934
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,560
Go, go, go, dude.
When?
935
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:44,760
When When Beaver looks at the
stone version of Badger and
936
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,400
like, you've heard the jokes
with his wife about his
937
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,120
relationship with Badger, and
then you hear him go.
938
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,400
He was my best.
Dude, it's crushing.
939
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:56,120
It's.
So good.
940
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,440
Those are the moments where this
movie succeeds.
941
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,800
It's kind of like an analogy
that I would try to make is it's
942
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:07,560
kind of like Dobby in the Harry
Potter series, where Dobby is
943
00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:10,560
like they they made a vast
improvement on the Jar Jar Binks
944
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,840
prototype and they were like,
this is Dobby and he's gonna
945
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,240
kind of suck in the first film
you see him in.
946
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,480
Jar Jar 2.0.
Yeah, 'cause, like you're like,
947
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,280
oh, this is annoying as hell.
And by the end of the movie he
948
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,840
says Dobby is free.
And you're like, yeah, Dobby
949
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,560
Dobby's my boy.
And then when you see Dobby die
950
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,520
at the end of the 7th movie,
you're like, that was one of the
951
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,760
best characters ever made.
I can't believe they just killed
952
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,480
him.
And I kind of feel like that
953
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,680
with a lot of these side
characters in Narnia.
954
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,280
James McAvoy is inspired casting
for Mr. Tumnus.
955
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,520
He's so good and he brings a
much more like a much softer
956
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,120
side of himself to that
performance.
957
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:49,080
I think Ray Winstone as Beaver
is incredible and and I wish
958
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:54,360
that there was that much care
and attention and color given to
959
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,720
the human characters in this
movie because the Pevency
960
00:53:57,720 --> 00:54:00,880
children, while they are like
the audience surrogate, they're
961
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,560
also the blandest characters I
would say in the whole film.
962
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,760
Yeah, yeah, they they kind of
are just a little bit.
963
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,200
And I like, I think that that's
OK the, the film doesn't
964
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,720
necessarily need them to like
Shine crazily bright.
965
00:54:17,720 --> 00:54:21,360
But I don't know man, we're back
to the Tilda Swinton thing.
966
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,120
Like sure, everybody.
It'd be better if everyone
967
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,440
turned in an A+ performance.
It would.
968
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:31,000
It would be better this this
band of four Mary hobbits that
969
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,040
we have in these four children
needed a Mary and Pippin, and
970
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,680
they also needed a Frodo and
Sam, and they didn't have any of
971
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,800
those.
Like, there's not fun characters
972
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,080
represented in the four.
And there's also not like the
973
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:47,440
two characters you love the way
there are Frodo and Sam, and I
974
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,720
think they want it to be either
Lucy and what's his sister's
975
00:54:51,720 --> 00:54:56,920
name, Susan or Lucy and Peter.
But you don't really catch the
976
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,840
bond between any of them that
way.
977
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,440
And so that, like, you already
don't have as much of an
978
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,160
emotional connection with these
kids.
979
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,480
And then, Brad, if I can make
perhaps my most controversial
980
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,120
statement in an episode where
we've talked about Lord
981
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:14,880
Cummington, I have never wanted
to watch a child die on screen
982
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:19,640
more than Edmund.
That kid sucked so much.
983
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,720
And I look like I understand how
the gospel works.
984
00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:27,720
I know that, Aslan.
Jesus especially dies for Edmund
985
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,600
specifically because he is the
worst among us and it is a
986
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,720
metaphor.
I get that I do not care.
987
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,000
I like as Land forgives Bob
book.
988
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:40,080
Does not that kid have you?
Seen The Voyage of the Dawn
989
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,120
Treader.
I have not, no.
990
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,320
Oh dude, you don't even know
what you're in for.
991
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,120
Oh, does Edmond get drawn and
quartered 'cause I.
992
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:56,840
Know so there is a Their cousin
Eustace goes into Narnia with
993
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:03,040
with Edmond and Lucy.
And Eustace is like Edmond on
994
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:07,160
steroids.
He sucks so hard.
995
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,960
He is so much worse than Edmond
and I'm with you 100%.
996
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,440
Edmond is the worst in this
movie.
997
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,400
He has the most punchable face
of any 11 year old I've ever
998
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,120
seen.
He he is like, in this.
999
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,760
I wish I could have thought
about my Mount Rushmore of kids
1000
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,360
like this, but he has the kind
of face that reminds me of
1001
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:30,680
Alfalfa from The Little Rascals,
where it's like like every time
1002
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,040
you see that kid come on screen,
you're like this fucking kid.
1003
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,040
Like, you just like you just
hate him and you want to punch
1004
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,240
him and he kind of looks like
Alfalfa.
1005
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:40,240
And I don't know if you
remember, but when the kid that
1006
00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:43,560
played Alfalfa back in the 30s
grew up, he was in It's a
1007
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,920
Wonderful Life for a Hot 2nd.
And he's the kid that wanted to
1008
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,480
open the floor underneath George
Bailey and make them all.
1009
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,760
Yeah, that's Alfalfa.
That's Edmund.
1010
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:57,240
I hate both of those kids.
And I like for the whole movie,
1011
00:56:57,240 --> 00:57:00,280
I was like, man, why does Aslan
have to forgive this kid?
1012
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,440
He's the worst.
People died because of Edmund,
1013
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,600
and they're just like as like
just like, oh, what's done is
1014
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,640
done.
Like, whoa, hold on, Like, what
1015
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:13,080
about freaking Mr. Fox?
He died because Edmond sucks.
1016
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,040
Yeah, he sure did.
And I liked Mr. Fox.
1017
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,720
I did too.
Yeah.
1018
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,760
I'm sorry, I I had to get that
off my chest.
1019
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,280
No, it's OK man.
Any any other children you want
1020
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:24,800
to murder?
No, just that one.
1021
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,760
For now.
All of my rage has been directed
1022
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,640
to Edmond.
OK, yeah, that's that's fine
1023
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:30,520
with me, man.
Cool.
1024
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:32,880
All right, Brad.
Well, I think with that off my
1025
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,440
chest, if there's nothing else
about the film itself that you
1026
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,160
want to talk about, then it is
time for us to get to our last
1027
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:42,040
segment of the day, which we
call Let's make it a Double.
1028
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,600
We're near the end of the
episode, so thanks listening to
1029
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,440
the film and whiskey show.
Let's pair another film with
1030
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:49,840
this one, even if it's
struggling.
1031
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,440
It's a final segment of the day.
Now let's make it a double.
1032
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,440
Let's make it a double is the
part of the show where we pick a
1033
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,160
movie to pair up with this one
to make the perfect double
1034
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,160
feature.
Brad, I'm anxious to hear yours
1035
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,880
because I think the most obvious
comparison point is Lord of the
1036
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:06,760
Rings.
But I doubt that you went with
1037
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,040
that.
So I'd like to hear what you
1038
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:09,840
thought of for your let's make
it a double.
1039
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,600
You know, Bob, I, I was
struggling with a movie to pick
1040
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:19,880
for this.
I think a good a good pairing as
1041
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:24,000
far as like quality and
enjoyability goes, because I
1042
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,880
think that Chronicles of Narnia
is like a relatively high,
1043
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:32,400
enjoyably enjoyable film with
like an above average quality of
1044
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,080
production.
I'm going to pair it with
1045
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:39,880
Stardust from 2007.
There's AI feel like there was
1046
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,400
100 movies like this in the mid
2000s.
1047
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,840
There was another movie called
Zathura that was kind of like
1048
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,680
like I didn't see compass, I
didn't see any of them and
1049
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,480
they're all the same movie in my
like I I've just jumbled all
1050
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,280
their posters together.
So tell me about Stardust.
1051
00:58:55,280 --> 00:59:00,200
What's that movie?
There is a young man who sees
1052
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,000
this beautiful girl, falls in
love with her, follows her to
1053
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:07,960
like the edge of town, and it's
almost like a magical version of
1054
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,600
what's the it's like the village
or something.
1055
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:16,160
Is that the Shyamalan movie,
where there's like at the edge
1056
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,200
of the woods there's others
living out there?
1057
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:22,640
It's kind of like that where she
disappears across this magical
1058
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:27,000
veil and he's trying to find her
and he goes on this adventure to
1059
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:31,320
cross the magical veil and save
her from this evil witch and and
1060
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:36,760
it's just kind of a generic fun
action adventure movie that you
1061
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:42,040
know, it's it's nothing great.
I think it has like a 7.57 point
1062
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,520
6 on IMDb.
So like, it's just a really fun
1063
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,360
action adventure fantasy movie.
Nice.
1064
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,520
All right, so Brad's pairing it
with Stardust.
1065
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,800
I'm going to pick a movie called
A Monster Calls.
1066
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,000
It's a really good movie, and I
I haven't had a chance to
1067
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,640
recommend it before on this
podcast.
1068
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,600
But essentially it's a movie
about a kid whose mom has a
1069
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:08,040
terminal illness and he runs off
every day into the woods and he
1070
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,560
kind of imagines this giant
monster that he talks to.
1071
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,320
And it's a movie that's it's all
about processing through grief
1072
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,120
and processing through trauma.
The monster in the movie is
1073
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,400
voiced by Liam Neeson.
It's an incredibly emotional
1074
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,880
movie and like just a really
good way.
1075
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,000
I think you know it, it'd be
better for teenagers, but it's a
1076
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,800
really good way to teach kids
about processing through trauma
1077
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,680
and grief.
And it has Liam Neeson voicing
1078
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,280
the the main monster of the
movie.
1079
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,360
But beyond the Liam Neeson of it
all, I think it's just a really
1080
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:45,680
good example of how we can use
creatures that aren't real to
1081
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,760
act as a metaphor for things
that are happening in our lives
1082
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,120
or things that are happening
kind of cosmically the way that
1083
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,480
Ashland does in this movie.
So I really love this movie and
1084
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:55,640
I've never recommended it
before.
1085
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,880
It's called A Monster Calls.
All right, I I'm in.
1086
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,480
Man, that sounds really
interesting.
1087
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:04,040
All right, Brad, let's give this
movie some final scores.
1088
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,640
I'll go first.
I don't think that this movie,
1089
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,320
I'm sure that there's someone
out there that hates this movie.
1090
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,040
But what I think about this
movie, I can't really see
1091
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,960
anybody giving it less than like
A5.
1092
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,200
Like at at the worst reading of
this movie is like it is
1093
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,880
mediocre.
I also think that it's going to
1094
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,160
be hard to find anyone out there
that thinks this movie is like a
1095
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:27,600
10 and it just kind of feels
like the natural bell curve of
1096
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,440
this movie is between A5 and an
8.
1097
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:34,480
And so I I I look at the 6.9 on
IMDb and I'm like it does look a
1098
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,880
little low, but I can see how it
would land somewhere in there
1099
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,560
and you said like even a 7 two
would make more sense.
1100
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,280
That's kind of where I'm at with
this movie.
1101
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:47,320
It is like almost there in every
facet and it kind of just
1102
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,240
depends on when you get out of
this movie at the two hour and
1103
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,440
20 minute mark, do you
ultimately feel like it was a
1104
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,720
good investment of your time or
a waste of your time?
1105
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:57,960
And I think that's what's going
to determine, are you a six or
1106
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,800
A7 on this movie?
I didn't think it was a waste of
1107
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,400
time.
I like this movie quite a bit.
1108
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,800
I don't.
I don't think I'll give it a 7
1109
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,760
1/2, but I will give it a 7 out
of 10.
1110
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,080
OK.
I I think that that's a fair
1111
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,720
score Bob.
I I am a little bit higher.
1112
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:17,360
I really really enjoy this movie
and and it's been an IP that
1113
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:21,720
I've liked for most of my life.
I'm at an 8 out of 10.
1114
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:26,040
I I think that the the child
performances are all as we said
1115
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:30,160
like B minus to B plus range.
You have an incredible
1116
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,280
performance from Tilda Swinton
and some of the voice actors
1117
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:37,000
from the animal characters.
I I'm just I'm in on this movie
1118
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,560
man.
It's a movie that I will come
1119
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,560
back to every three or four
years like gladly and really
1120
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:46,080
enjoy it.
All right, so we are at a 7.5
1121
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,680
out of 10 on average.
But we'd like to know what you
1122
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,920
think.
How long has it been since
1123
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,400
you've seen The Chronicles of
Narnia, The Lion, The Witch, and
1124
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,240
the Wardrobe?
I should say they did make two
1125
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,280
more movies.
For me, it was 19 years.
1126
01:02:58,480 --> 01:02:59,920
Does anybody have my record
beat?
1127
01:02:59,920 --> 01:03:01,920
Because I'm pretty sure I saw it
like opening weekend.
1128
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,080
So come join me, Brothers in
Arms.
1129
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,120
Let us know what you thought of
this movie.
1130
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,560
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1131
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:14,120
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1132
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,080
Or you can jump onto the
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1133
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,680
We are on there every single day
talking to you guys, fans of the
1134
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,920
Film and Whiskey Podcast.
If you want to join the
1135
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,760
conversation, you can find a
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1136
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,440
of every single one of our show
notes.
1137
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,520
Next week we are just tipping
things into Funville.
1138
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,720
For a week we're looking at a
movie that I can't believe
1139
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:36,040
grossed this much money, but it
is 2006's Night at the Museum.
1140
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,960
Fun fact.
A film that Bob Book has never
1141
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,400
seen.
What?
1142
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,080
Yeah, I'm pretty pumped.
I've never seen it before.
1143
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:46,240
So we'll be joined by a very
special guest who'll be making
1144
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:47,800
his first time appearance on the
show.
1145
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,480
So TuneIn next week for Night at
the Museum.
1146
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:54,480
But until then, I'm Bob Book.
I'm Brad G.
1147
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:56,200
And we'll see you next time.