Skyfall / Bowmore Aston Martin Master's Selection 22 Year Scotch

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In 2012, director Sam Mendes and
star Daniel Craig gave the world

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an explosive introspection into
the world of secret agents,

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espionage and aging.
In 2024, we go wheels up with a

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James Bond classic.
The film is Skyfall.

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The whiskey is Bo more 22 year
Aston Martin and.

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We'll review them both.
This is the.

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Film and Whiskey podcast.
Welcome to the Film and Whiskey

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podcast, where each week we
review a classic movie and a

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glass of whiskey.
I'm Bob Book.

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The name's G Brad G.
And this week we are looking at

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the 2012 James Bond classic
Skyfall.

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Bob, you know what we were
talking about right before we

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got on that.
I think the audience needs to

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know.
We're talking about a lot of

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different things.
I don't know where you want to

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go with this.
Enlighten me, Brad.

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The James Bond theme song is
freaking incredible.

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I don't.
Think we can get a copyright

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strike for just humming it?
We.

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Probably will, but I.
Anyway.

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Here's.
The thing about the theme song

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is that we were just breaking
this down at its most basic,

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pure level, like the chord
progression and the sort of

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underlying bass notes that like,
bum, bum, bum, bum, it's so easy

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to remember.
But then everything on top of

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that, the melodic part of the
James Bond theme is what makes

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it even better.
Like it is, it is a perfect

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theme because any part of it
that you want to hum, if you

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want to do the little orchestral
Stinger at the beginning, the

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it's freaking great.
If you want to do the electric

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guitar like Brad just did, it
works perfectly.

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Like there's no part of that
theme that isn't just

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perfection.
And like, at this point, it has

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been stamped upon the cultural
consciousness that like, you can

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play it anywhere and it's so
recognizable that you can't

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divorce it from James Bond.
Like, it's smooth and classy and

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elegant and rich and like,
awesome and like, it's

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everything you want James Bond
to stand for.

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And I like, it's amazing to me
that it has been around for so

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long and it's still freaking
rocks.

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It it's the perfect remnant of
the Bond film's early 60s roots.

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So Doctor No comes out in 62,
From Russia with Love in 63 and

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then Goldfinger in 64.
And by the time he gets a

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Goldfinger, the sort of musical
identity of Bond has really

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taken shape.
And I think it's it's just

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perfect because that's where you
get that sort of modern twangy,

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almost like surf style guitar in
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Yeah.
And, and if the Bond theme had

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developed in the later part of
the 60s, like when The Beatles

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went from being the mop tops to
being on LSD, you know what I

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mean?
Like, I feel like the theme

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would have developed in such a
way that it would sound like not

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just cheesy old quote UN quote,
but actually like antiquated.

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And I think there's something
about the particular style that

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they hit on in the early 60s
with that theme that it feels

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more timeless than anything.
100% And I, I, I think this is

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the proper place to start
because in a lot of ways,

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Skyfall feels like a culminating
moment in the history of the

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James Bond franchise.
And I, I just felt like we had

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to start this episode by
starting at the start and saying

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the first thing you often hear
in a James Bond film is the

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theme.
And it it never gets old for me.

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This is the third Bond film that
we have done on our show.

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And by the way folks, welcome in
to film and whiskey.

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If this is your first episode
here, welcome in.

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You came for a freaking banger,
'cause I love Skyfall.

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But what we do on this show is
we talk about movies and we

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drink whiskey.
This season we are looking at

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films that came out in the last
20 years and we're asking, does

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this film deserve to be
considered a modern classic?

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Skyfall's a really interesting
one to talk about, Brad, for all

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of the reasons that we've
already mentioned.

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But getting back to my point,
third film in the Bond franchise

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out of I believe 27 now 28
maybe.

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And we started with Casino
Royale.

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We then went back last season
and looked at, I keep saying

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Goldfinger.
It's not Goldfinger, Goldeneye

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from the 1990s.
And now we're coming back into

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the Craig era for Skyfall.
And I'm sure that much of our

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conversation today is going to
focus on the comparisons and

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contrasting elements between
Casino Royale and Skyfall.

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These are the 2 crown jewels of
the Daniel Craig era.

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He was in five Bond films and I
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the only two that are worth
talking about.

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So he batted 40% you know, which
is, you know, 400's a great

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batting average in baseball.
I don't know about in movies.

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But it also might be the case
that these are two of the three

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best Bond movies ever made.
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history of the Daniel Craig Bond
films, I feel like the quality

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of Casino Royale and Skyfall
kind of overshadows the rest.

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But for me, I have a distinct
memory of like I went to see all

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of the Daniel Craig Bonds in
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Spectre, the one following this.
And I just remember the two in

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between Casino and Skyfall.
I I think it's Quantum of Solace

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and.
There was only one.

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It was just Quantum of Solace,
then Skyfall, then Spec.

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Wow well then Quantum of Solace
really sucked.

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I remember thinking I was like
oh wow, Casino Royale was a

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banger and I might not ever go
see another Bond movie after

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watching Quantum of Solace.
I thought it was so bad.

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Well, let's put a pin in that
because we've touched on a few

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different topics that I think we
really need to hit on to

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contextualize this movie.
But before we get too far down

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the rabbit trail, it's time for
our first segment of the day,

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which we call, Brad explains.
Brad's going to give us the

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movie plot with only 60 seconds
taken on the clock, so let's go

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ahead and do your take with this
little segment that we call Brad

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explains.
Brad Explains is the part of the

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show where Brad breaks down the
plot of the film that we have

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just seen, often for the first
time.

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Brad, this is clearly not your
first time with Skyfall.

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You apparently saw it in the
theater.

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Have you watched it in the
interim?

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In the intervening 12 years.
I don't think I have.

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I think this is my second time
with the film.

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Along with Casino Royale and a
couple others, this is maybe the

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most compulsively rewatchable
Bond like it.

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It's very weighty and very
heavy, but I think the action

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set pieces are so well
constructed and it's such a

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beautiful movie to look at that
I've caught myself many times,

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like flipping through channels
and sky falls on and I'm like,

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yeah, I'm going to watch it till
that subway train crashes

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through the roof because that's
that just sounds like a good way

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to spend the next 25 minutes,
you know?

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Yeah, I, I found myself
forgetting most of this movie.

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I like there was so much of this
film that I'm like, Oh yeah,

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there's like a Komodo dragon.
I forgot about that.

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Oh yeah, there's a trash island.
I forgot about that.

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Like there was a lot of this
film that I did not remember and

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I was mostly happy to return to.
I think that Skyfall was so

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beloved by critics and, and it
made so much money that I don't

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want to say there was a backlash
afterwards.

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But, you know, maybe five years
on, people started to really

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say, like, you know, Skyfall was
good, but it didn't feel like a

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Bond movie to me.
I like Casino Royale better.

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And I what I have found to be
anecdotally true is that people

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haven't gone back and watched
Skyfall a lot.

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And when they do, what they
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your experience.
There are a number of like

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moments and scenes that are like
embedded into your James Bond

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memories and you forget that
they all come from this movie.

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Like I think when you add up the
sum total of like Bond on the

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floating raft in that Navy blue
tuxedo, the Komodo dragon, the

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fight where they're all in
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Like everything in this movie
that you remember, once it comes

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up in the movie, you're like,
oh, did it.

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This is in Skyfall 2.
That's crazy.

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I could have sworn this was in
some other movie.

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So anyway, all that to say, I'm
very pumped to talk about the

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iconic moments in this movie,
but we have to get the plot out

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of the way.
So folks, if you have not seen

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Skyfall, I would highly
recommend you go watch it.

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Hit pause here.
Come back and join us in 60

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seconds after Brad spoils the
hell out of it.

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Brad, you have one minute on the
clock and go.

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Skyfall is a film about the
latest exploits of the famed

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agent Double O 7.
Bond's latest mission goes

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wrong, and the list of names.
If you've ever seen the first

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Mission Impossible, it's the
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The list of names of a lot of
agents across the world is

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stolen and eventually exposed.
M is forced to face a political

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inquiry into her leadership as
Bond goes on the hunt for the

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mysterious rogue agent who has
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They find each other, get into
lots of fights, blow a lot of

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things up, return to Bond's
childhood home and at the end of

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the film M the played by the
famed Dame Judi Dench dies.

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But she's replaced by the famed
Rafe Fines, so.

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You know which would you make
that trade?

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I wouldn't say it's an upgrade,
but it's definitely like a

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lateral move and I think that
that's her saying a lot,

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honestly, because Judi Dench is
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She's incredible, man.
We have a lot of places to go

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today.
Brad, you've done a great job of

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encapsulating this movie very
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I kind of want to start by
framing this movie in the

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context of the Bond franchise.
So this is like the 23rd, I

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think, movie in the Bond
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It marks the 50th anniversary of
the franchise and the third

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movie in the Craig era.
Now the Craig era kicked off

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with a sort of, we're doing a
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If you remember the first part
of Casino Royale where it's all

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black and white and you know,
Daniel Craig looks nothing like

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the Bonds that have come before.
They're definitely leaning into

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and I'm sure we talked about
this in the Casino Royale

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episode, the Jason
Bournification of action films

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and kind of stripping Bond back
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combat, realistic grounded quote
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They do Casino Royale.
It works really well.

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They give the sequel movie
Quantum of Solace to this

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director Marc Forster.
It gets horrific reviews and no

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one likes it.
And so now they're back to the

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drawing board with Craig as
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And it kind of seems like this
movie, Brad, and you've hinted

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at it.
Aside from just trying to re

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establish Bond as culturally
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They wanted to make this movie
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Bond ever in terms of what it
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inner psychology of Bond, but
also grappling with Bond's own

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place in the culture and
reminiscing on 50 years of Bond

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lore.
And it, it's trying to do a lot

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here.
And I think in order to do that,

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the studio and the people that
hold the rights to the Bond

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franchise went back to the
drawing board very similarly to

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like, OK, the 2004 US men's
national basketball team only

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won bronze.
This is an embarrassment on an

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international level.
We need to get our shit

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together.
And then in O8, they came back

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with a super team.
You know what I mean?

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It kind of feels like we're
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Sam Mendes.
We're gonna bring on his

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collaborative composer Thomas
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We're gonna let Roger Deakins
film the thing and we're gonna

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go big this time.
We're going to get an Oscar

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winner in Javier Bardem to play
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Like, they just, they stacked
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And I don't think that, like
when you're just watching this

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movie in a vacuum, that it quite
sinks in exactly how much they

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were pushing all their chips in
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Yeah, I and can I just say the
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incredible.
Like at multiple points

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throughout the movie, whether
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from a mile away, like it's
Monty Python and the Holy Grail,

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like the horns during that
sequence are incredible.

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When M is like, I think it's
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end of the film, they just have
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French horns just leading the
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I I don't know why, but for some
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points throughout the film where
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is awesome.
You know what?

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It's funny because Thomas
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quite a few times on the
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He's a very prolific composer.
I his particular style doesn't

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always jive with me and he likes
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in the background.
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we jumped on Brad, I was
Googling what are the unique

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instruments that Thomas Newman
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And he likes to use the hammered
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I don't know if you're familiar
with this instrument, but it's

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like.
Don't get me started on the

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hammer dulcimer, Bob.
Underneath a lot of his music,

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you'll hear that like Ding,
Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding,

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Ding, Ding.
And then sounds just like that

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in some of the action sequences
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And I didn't even realize.
I didn't look up the composer,

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but I'm watching this and I'm
like, oh, that's Thomas Newman.

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They let Thomas Newman do a
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To your point though, like when
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it.
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contributes again to we don't
just want to re establish Bond

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as the pre eminent action
franchise, but we want this to

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be really taken seriously as a
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And I will say this really is
the first time that James Bond

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is given like awards recognition
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right?
And I think it it kind of

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starts, if we can get into the
cast a little bit with Judi

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Dench.
This is Judi Dench's movie.

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Like I think that she may not
steal every scene and they may

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not always be giving her the
Mediast stuff, but she's been a

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part of this franchise for I
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And I think her first film was
Goldeneye.

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Goldeneye, yeah.
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extent of her career with AS as
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And she's, you know, she's ready
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I don't blame her at this point.
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This is her swan song.
But thematically, narratively,

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everything is leading to Judi
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was representative of old
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And so it's it's both the send
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sort of rich metaphorical thing.
I guess I'll start by talking

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about how I'm surprised they
didn't push her harder for a

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supporting actress nomination
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it's almost like with, you know,
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like, I don't know, Alan Rickman
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Or like some of these roles
where it's like, did you really

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just not want to try to get them
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Because it seems like you set up
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their shining moment, and then
you really fumble the bag at the

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end here.
Well, and and didn't fumble the

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bag cinematically.
Like to be clear, like they

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fumble the bag in not even
marketing, but just pushing for

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them to be nominated, which even
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Like I feel like as a common
person looking at it, you're

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like, oh, I thought that all the
people are just supposed to

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watch the movies and decide
who's best.

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Like it.
It shouldn't have to involve

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Harvey Weinstein being sleazy
and marketing his people.

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But I think when you look at
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she shines so much is because
she has this ability to convey

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the lack of professionalism that
she has when it comes to Bond

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under the surface.
Like she truly views him as a

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son, as someone that she cares
about.

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And I think that when you look
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of this film, the way he
continues to call her mother and

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act as if she had betrayed him,
like you find yourself drawn

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into this web of, is she just a
professional, cold hearted?

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I don't care about my agents.
Or does she actually care about

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Bond?
And, and like, that's at the

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absolute heart of this is as an
audience, should we care about

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the person of James Bond or not?
Like we've had him for 50 years.

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Is he a character worth our
emotional attachment or not?

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And and Dench is the the
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That's really good way of
thinking about it.

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I actually didn't put that
together until now because I was

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taking the reading on this movie
and I'll make a few more

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references to this.
But if we talk about the Jason

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bournification of action movies,
then we also have to talk about

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the really long shadow that was
cast by The Dark Knight.

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I think The Dark Knight is an
influence that's all over this

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movie, especially because when
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O 8, it obviously wasn't the
first time that you had a

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villain who was espousing a
philosophy and the philosophy

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makes sense.
And so as an audience member,

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you're kind of torn between this
guy is making a whole lot of

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sense, but I know he's bad.
It's not the first time that

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that was done, but I think it
really re established this

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emphasis on villains who don't
just muscle their way around,

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but they're like thinking man's
villains.

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And and that really comes to
fruition here in Skyfall.

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If we want to dive into Bardem a
little bit, I think we do a

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great job with his character.
The point I was going to make

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was in The Dark Knight, we had
that long talk about like the

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Patriot Act and how people
accuse that movie of like, you

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know, supporting surveillance
States and everything else.

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I think if if there's any movie
that you could really make that

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argument with, it's kind of
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Because like the the entire Judi
Dench character is kind of a

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stand in for like the old way of
doing things as a nation and how

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we still need it.
And like this movie is proof

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that we still need it.
And so I kept looking at it that

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way.
I didn't put it together that

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she is the audience surrogate.
And the question that's being

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asked of us is like, does James
Bond still matter?

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So well done.
Yeah.

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Yeah, thanks man.
Oh, OK, sorry.

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I keep thinking that you're
going to like go into something

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and then you're just not.
Yeah.

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No, I'm just, I'm just going to
bask in the glory that you have

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given me.
You're welcome.

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Yeah.
Well, on that note, then let's

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dive into Javier Bardem, who is
just having a hell of a good

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time with this role.
Like he is hamming it up like

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crazy, which is what a Bond
villain should do.

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Like he comes in with his fake
ass blonde hair and dude and

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that light colored Sport coat
and is just flamboyant and he's

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touching all over Bond and he's
playing with him and he does the

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little playful face that he does
in No Country for Old Men a

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couple times.
And you're like, this is it just

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works, man.
I don't know what else to say.

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I did not like Javier Bardem.
No, Brad.

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Come on dude.
I was like, he is so extra if

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I'm allowed to use that word.
I, I know I'm getting older.

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I, I could not take it.
And I, I'm with you.

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Like Bond villains are supposed
to be extra.

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But the rest of the film is so
serious and sexy and like

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worried about the future and who
we are.

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And then Javier Bardem, like,
slides his way into the movie

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and it just felt terrible.
I and I will say he got better

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as it went along.
I think by the end of the film I

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loved his character, but the
first shot of him walking in

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from the elevator felt like it
was a Monty Python skit.

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You don't like that monologue
about the rats eating each

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other?
Oh, it's.

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Dude, it's so crazy, so good,
dude.

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Now they don't.
Have a taste for coconut.

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Now they only eat rat.
I was like, hell yeah.

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I couldn't take it dude.
He is so hammy and so

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ridiculous.
I like, I am so convinced of

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your wrongness that I'm not even
going to engage with it.

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But I do think this is a good
jumping off point to talk about

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kind of this movie in
particular, but also the Craig

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era and how I think one of the
big flaws of the Craig era was

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that their emphasis on quote, UN
quote stripped down Bond meant

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that they had to reckon with the
past of Bond and how Bond is

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undeniably cheesy in some.
Like, you know, there's movies

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where James Bond goes to space.
You're looking at like cue

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making him gadgets.
And so their response in this

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movie is like no gadgets.
It's a radio and a gun and

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that's all you get James Bond.
And and I do think that there

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that's kind of why people go
back to Casino Royale because it

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had a little bit more bondiness
to it.

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But I do feel like if you're
going to do a serious Bond, this

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movie is kind of the ideal for
that because Bond still gets, I

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don't know, 21 liners in this
movie.

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Albert Finney as the caretaker,
get some jokes.

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Judi Dench get some jokes.
Javier Bardem gets jokes.

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And I think the humor, it works
in, in terms of like,

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alleviating tension.
And I think they do a much

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better job.
It sounds like you never saw the

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last Craig movie, which is
called No Time to Die.

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I did not.
That movie is a mess bro.

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First of all, the Bond villain
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Enough said.
And.

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Christoph Waltz.
No, Christoph Waltz is Inspector

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and he makes a a brief
appearance in No Time to Die,

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but the main bad guy is played
by Rami Malek.

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Gotcha.
And they tried to do both, where

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they make it even more serious
than Skyfall, but then they try

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to bring back really cheesy
gadgets and like sight gags and

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they throw it into a three hour
movie and it's like there is no

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direction here.
Does does Malek have like big

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fake teeth to mess with the way
he talks?

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It's just, it's just Malek
dressed like Freddie Mercury.

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He just comes out in like a
unitard and he it's the same

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shot of like Javier Bardem but
but Rami Malek pops out and just

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raises his first and goes waits
for James Bond to respond.

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Somehow, Bond becomes the music
producer that, like, tries to

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shoot them down.
Nobody will listen to Bohemian

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Rhapsody.
Anyway, I want to get your

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thoughts.
This is a good place to start

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comparing Casino Royale and
Skyfall.

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But before we get into the meat
of that, do you see that as kind

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of a flaw of the Bond era, and
do you think this movie

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addresses it in a satisfactory
way?

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No, I, I think that this film is
too on the nose about certain

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elements of the Bond past and
like is, is just Snooty about

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it.
Like the way that Q says like,

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this is all you need.
Like, I think what it did for me

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was it pushed things so far into
the realistic sense that my

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brain went to like, oh, so
you're going to put a

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fingerprint sensor on a gun and
think that's going to work every

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time?
Like, what if he shoots with his

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other hand?
What if something happens and

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like his, his, the, the thing
stops working?

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Like there's so many things that
could go wrong with that, that

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it, it's like, OK, you want me
to be realistic?

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I'm going to think about this as
realistically as possible and

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say, this is really dumb and it
wouldn't work.

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And so I just, they were so on
the nose about certain elements

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of the Bond history and how they
were throwing it out that it

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just took me out of the film and
took me out of where they were

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at.
Like, allow the audience to be

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smart and like, understand where
you're going with the film.

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Like, we're trying to be more
realistic so there's less

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gadgets.
Like, don't say that out loud.

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And yet I do feel like it.
You're kind of between a rock

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and a hard place.
If if this is the direction

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you're going with the series,
then you're left with the

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options of either stick to your
guns and be stripped down Bond

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or try to shoehorn in gadgets
and stuff.

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And you know, I man, I wish you
had seen no time to die, because

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I think that's a really good
comparison point.

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I I do appreciate that at least
for this one film, they stuck to

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their guns, but I think that it
makes this movie for me, Brad, I

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really love this movie.
Like I, I think this is, I'm

445
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going to give this a very, very
high score.

446
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:41,160
And I think that this might be
the best made movie in the Bond

447
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,480
franchise.
And it might not be particularly

448
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,880
close, but I don't know that I
would call it the best Bond

449
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,280
movie if, if someone's asking
like what's a James Bond movie,

450
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,160
I don't think I'd want them to.
Skyfall, like Casino Royale,

451
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,120
clears this by a lot if you're
just talking sheer bondiness.

452
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,960
Yeah, and, and I would say that
Casino Royale is the perfect

453
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:08,200
mixture of high quality
filmmaking paired with the

454
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:13,560
bondiness of it all.
I think that Skyfall leans into

455
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,880
we're going to get away from the
bondiness and make a high

456
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,520
quality film.
And I think they do succeed in

457
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,480
that.
The the cinematography in this

458
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:26,640
is it's Deacon.
Like it's so freaking good and

459
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,760
there's so many memorable
sequences and the music is

460
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,960
incredible.
And I'm with you that this is an

461
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,440
incredibly well made film.
But there are definitely moments

462
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,040
that I go, oh, you're going a
little over the top here with

463
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,640
what you're shooting for,
whether it's Bardem's character

464
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:49,320
or the gadgets or even some of
the jokes, like when Bardem

465
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,720
looks at at Bond from the the
ladder and goes.

466
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,000
I go to Radio 2.
Beep.

467
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,760
This is for you.
He, he.

468
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,280
I like it.
Do you know?

469
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,000
Do you know why I liked it?
Why'd you like that?

470
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,880
Because a.
Train comes through the roof.

471
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,920
That is what I literally I've
seen this movie.

472
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,440
I don't know five times
probably.

473
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,280
And I I, you know what's coming
and I still I'm watching.

474
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,600
I'm sitting on my couch and I
just leaned back and like put my

475
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,840
hands behind my head like a
satisfied dad.

476
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,360
Like it was just like, this is
what movies were made for.

477
00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:29,400
Was this practically done effect
of a subway train crashing

478
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,720
through the roof of something?
Have you ever seen that before?

479
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:37,440
It's so cool.
I think it looks really cheesy

480
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,840
and it makes me gosh, dude, that
they play so they play up this

481
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,600
this villain as this like super
genius who is a better agent

482
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,560
than anyone else.
And yet somehow he knows that

483
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,720
he's going to be running away
from Bond at this exact moment,

484
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,720
this exact time.
He's going to get shot at.

485
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,920
He's going to pause on the
ladder for just long enough to

486
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,480
go.
He, he radio bomb.

487
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,120
Ha ha, Watch the train come like
that.

488
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:10,520
Like it's so far beyond any
capability of believability that

489
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:16,920
I just kind of go, OK, sure.
Isn't it funny how some films

490
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,600
were willing to suspend our
disbelief for and some were not?

491
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:24,440
And I I don't know that I could
ever provide a satisfactory

492
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,560
answer to why I don't care about
that.

493
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,640
You know what I mean?
Like, sure, I think maybe it's

494
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,480
the payoff.
Maybe it's just like, because it

495
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,320
is something that is so
cinematic that I've never seen

496
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,720
before that I'm like, yeah, of
like, of course he would have no

497
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:41,280
idea at exactly the time Q
accidentally let him into the

498
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,280
mainframe and then this like he
couldn't time that up with a

499
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,760
train.
And yet I'm not thinking about

500
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,440
that at all in that sequence.
And it's just funny to me that

501
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,120
you are.
And I think maybe it's a sign

502
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,600
that you just weren't as bought
into what led up to that.

503
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,120
And so your your mind is
wandering to like the logic of

504
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,000
it all.
Yeah, it's just so.

505
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,560
Funny that like there's some
movies where I'm in your chair

506
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,960
and I'm like, yeah, I, I was
thinking about the logic and

507
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,280
you're like, dude, just enjoy
the movie and I feel like I'm in

508
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,920
that.
Point I'm sitting here going

509
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,000
could I have gotten like 5 more
minutes of back story on Javier

510
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,440
Bardem that would have been.
Great.

511
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,520
Shut up, dude.
Here's the thing, they make the

512
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:22,960
movie so serious and real and
gritty that when it's not, it's

513
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,960
so noticeable to me.
I think that's the problem is

514
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:32,520
that Casino Royale stays within
the ridiculousness of it a

515
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,600
little bit that I I never get
thrown off.

516
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,560
This one is just more tonally.
Yeah, see.

517
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,280
An on and off.
I do think that this movie feels

518
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,600
like an outlier in the Bond
universe.

519
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,760
I hate using the word universe,
but you know what I mean.

520
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:51,160
The the bond averse.
The the Bond averse because it

521
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,440
really does play like a thriller
movie that just happens to have

522
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,400
James Bond in it.
Like it's a really well made

523
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,560
action thriller and you can
almost forget that it's a Bond

524
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,880
movie for large chunks of it.
And I think for a lot of people

525
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,480
that's kind of a non starter,
right?

526
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,880
Like if, if you're going to make
my Bond movie not Bondy, then

527
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,040
it's not a good Bond movie.
And I, I understand that point

528
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,760
of view.
I think for me, it was just like

529
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,680
I got so caught up in how well
made of an action thriller it

530
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,600
was that those callbacks to
other Bondy things like the

531
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:27,360
Aston Martin showing up, it was
just enough fanservice that I

532
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,400
felt like they were kind of
keeping people who were starting

533
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,760
to wander on board.
And so for me, it worked.

534
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,640
It sounds like it didn't work to
the same extent for you, Brad,

535
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,600
but I think that one area where
we might be in agreement and we

536
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,160
should hit on this really quick
before we go to break is the

537
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:48,280
inclusion of Rafe Fines as some
government guy named Mallory.

538
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,880
Government guy #37.
Yeah, who then becomes M at the

539
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,760
end of the film.
And I think that even more than

540
00:31:54,760 --> 00:32:00,520
any performance he gives, it is
inspired casting because this is

541
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,680
for such a huge chunk of the
movie, this is a who is the bad

542
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:10,600
guy and how do we find him out?
And then having Voldemort and,

543
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,840
you know, Aman girth from
Schindler's List come into your

544
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,160
movie as new government guy.
It does such a good job of throw

545
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,320
it, not throwing you off the
scent.

546
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,280
But like, even after Javier
Bardem is caught and apprehended

547
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,440
and like sitting in the
basement, you have this moment

548
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,800
where like he escapes.
And then Q is talking to the,

549
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,800
you know, Ms. sidekick guy about
like, how do we hide this

550
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,120
breadcrumb trail?
And and he's saying like, we

551
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,880
have to make it not so obvious
that he doesn't smell a rat.

552
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,480
And right when he says that, Ray
Fiennes walks in the back of the

553
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,120
room.
And it's just enough to make you

554
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,760
wonder like, oh, no, like, is
this also a bad guy?

555
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,680
And I think just having that
extra 30 seconds of like, making

556
00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:00,360
the audience feel a sense of
unease is exactly why you cast

557
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:05,400
Ray Fines in this role. 100% to
to get to more of the script

558
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,240
choice.
I also found myself wondering if

559
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:13,160
Naomi Harris who plays the other
agent who accidentally shot

560
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,520
Bond.
I think her name is Eve in the

561
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:20,040
movie.
Like she feels like she could

562
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,480
also be the villain throughout
the entire film.

563
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,200
Or at least the informant, the
mole.

564
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,520
And I, I think they do an
excellent job with both of those

565
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:32,080
characters of leaving them
mysterious enough to wonder if

566
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,120
they are good or bad.
And it's not until Ray Fiennes

567
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,720
is in the room shooting at
Javier Bardem that you're like,

568
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,280
OK, this guy's legit.
He's on the good guy side and I

569
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,720
like him.
Yeah, man.

570
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,880
And I and I got to say, it's fun
to have Ray Fines in a role

571
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,720
where I want to like him as an
audience member and not just as

572
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,760
somebody who likes movies and is
like, wow, what a great bad guy.

573
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,120
Yeah, exactly.
All right, man, I think we're in

574
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,880
a good spot to hit pause.
I am really, really excited

575
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,360
about the whiskey we chose
today.

576
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,360
So what do you say we get into
drinking some very expensive,

577
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:11,199
very well aged Scotch?
You literally could say that

578
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:15,080
sentence to me any moment of any
day and I would be in.

579
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:27,400
All right, today we are checking
out Bo Moore 22 year single malt

580
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,199
Isla Scotch Whiskey.
This is made in collaboration

581
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:33,960
with a little brand that you may
have heard of if you're a fan of

582
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,840
the James Bond franchise, Aston
Martin.

583
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:41,840
So it's a Co branded venture.
And this is, I mean, Brad in the

584
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,719
movie, they drink 50 year old
McAllen in lieu of that.

585
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,080
I think maybe we picked the
perfect whiskey for this.

586
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,679
Episode correction Daniel Craig
drinks 50 year old McAllen and

587
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:56,880
Javier Bardem wastes 50 year old
McAllen.

588
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,080
He does.
He does.

589
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,040
It's really disappointing.
Well, you know what?

590
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,880
We're not going to waste.
Today is 22 year old Bo Moore

591
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,160
Aston Martin Scotch.
We have never tried a product

592
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,400
from Bo Moore before.
I'm very excited.

593
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,720
This is a This is part of their
Master's Selection series.

594
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:15,720
I believe this was the third one
to come out in that series.

595
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:19,680
It says that it is double
matured in specially chosen

596
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,760
European oak and Olaroso Sherry
casks.

597
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:28,960
It clocks in at 51% ABV or 102
proof, which means it's on the

598
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,760
higher end of the proof spectrum
for what we've tried from Isla

599
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,400
Scotch's bread.
Yeah, it, it 100% is.

600
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,320
And I, I've said this before
about Scotch in general, they

601
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:46,120
actually do have a lot of Scotch
above 100 proof and it is

602
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,000
delicious.
So I am so excited to not just

603
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,240
try something above 100 proof
today, but something that is

604
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,240
very well aged.
So they don't really go into any

605
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,040
amount of detail that I can find
about the aging process.

606
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,280
It says aged 22 years in that
combination of bourbon and

607
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,440
Sherry casks.
But we don't know if it was like

608
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,040
aged for 19 of those years in
bourbon and then in Sherry where

609
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,680
if they're just combining two
different batches.

610
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,800
No idea.
All we really know is this is

611
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,840
very old.
It was put in casks in I

612
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,960
believe, 2000, bottled in 2022.
Brad, I am freaking excited.

613
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:29,240
Let's get into it.
The nose on this is absolutely

614
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:33,360
gorgeous, Bob.
There is pine cones and citrus.

615
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,600
It's really like a nice
grapefruit note for me.

616
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:42,280
There is honey, there's saline.
It's really lightly peated in my

617
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,640
opinion, and the more time I
spent with it, the more I got

618
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:50,000
like a really nice fresh vanilla
note that I thought was

619
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,080
incredible.
This is a 9 1/2 out of 10 for

620
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,240
me, Bob.
I have absolutely nothing to

621
00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:57,160
add.
Those are perfect nosing notes,

622
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,280
Brad.
I'm, I'm also at a 9.5.

623
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,200
I think this is a, you know, I
haven't tasted it yet, but just

624
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,920
from a nosing perspective, this
is a perfect like intro to

625
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,880
peated Scotch Scotch because it
has all of the notes that you

626
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,000
and I really love on our
Highland scotches.

627
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,560
And then it adds just a little
bit of peat to it.

628
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,960
And I think this is perfect,
dude.

629
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:25,360
Now, I will say on on the note
of Bond being from Scotland, you

630
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,000
know, apparently Ian Fleming
liked Sean Connery so much that

631
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,280
then he went back and wrote into
the lore that Bond was Scottish.

632
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,040
And the location that they use
in this movie for Bond's home,

633
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,680
Skyfall is in Glencoe, Scotland,
which is in the Highlands.

634
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,440
So this is, you know, we're,
we're looking at an Isla Scotch

635
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,320
today.
I'm just really glad that we

636
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,080
have some connection not just to
the James Bond franchise, but

637
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,120
also it reminds me a little bit
of a Highland Scotch on the

638
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,520
nose.
So I like, I like it a lot, man.

639
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,760
I'm tasting it now.
Brad, why don't you give us your

640
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,240
tasting notes?
Dude, this the first word I

641
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:02,640
wrote down before I wrote
anything else.

642
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:09,280
This Scotch is idyllic that it
is like a honey roasted almond.

643
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,320
There's a lot of like really
nice cigar flavors.

644
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,440
There's orange peel.
It gets decently peedy from what

645
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:22,000
I got on the nose, and there's a
little bit of a grapiness to it

646
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:27,000
that just came through to kind
of give you a bit of sweetness.

647
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,480
I think this is a perfect Scotch
Bob.

648
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,120
Like I think this is a 10 out of
10.

649
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:39,240
Incredible pallet.
I would happily buy a bottle of

650
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:41,880
this.
Dude you are on point with these

651
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:46,160
tasting notes today.
Cigar smoke is a perfect note on

652
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,360
the front of the pallet.
The Pete doesn't really come in

653
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,200
until the very back of the
pallet, but in between that, the

654
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,120
second you said orange peel, I'm
thinking orange zest.

655
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,440
And for me, that citrus note, as
it starts to carry to the back

656
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,440
of your palate, it becomes a
little bit more grapefruit.

657
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,320
Y not the bitterness of
grapefruit, but it reminded me

658
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,000
of like a Ruby red grapefruit.
Really, really nice man.

659
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,120
And again, yeah, the Pete's
there, but it's not paired with

660
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,760
those sort of bitter medicinal
notes that you sometimes get on

661
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,360
peet at Scotch.
Again, I think this is a almost

662
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,760
a platonic ideal of what Scotch
can be, but it would also be

663
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,040
maybe the best thing we've ever
had to introduce somebody to

664
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,960
Pete at Scotch because there's
no offensiveness to the Pete.

665
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,400
Here it is a 10 out of 10 on the
pallet.

666
00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:32,760
I'd love to hear your finish
notes because you're freaking

667
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,200
knocking it out of the park so
far man.

668
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,840
I think on the finish you were
talking about the medicinal.

669
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,840
It barely gets into medicinal
for me.

670
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,320
Have you ever like smelt or
tasted rose hip?

671
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:50,040
It's got a little bit of a rose
hip vibe for me, which is almost

672
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:55,200
like an autumn leafy herbal Y
type of note.

673
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,680
There's the saline really comes
through strong on the finish.

674
00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:03,040
It turns into the meatiness I
often like in Scotch, almost

675
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:09,160
like a prosciutto and the the
cigar smoke finally like lands

676
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,640
in APD location once you're done
drinking it and that finish is

677
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,720
just lingering there.
I.

678
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,360
I think that this is nearly a
perfect finish.

679
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,720
I'm going to give it a nine and
a half.

680
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,160
I'm going to come down to a
nine.

681
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,160
I just had my second sip of it
and I really liked the finish on

682
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,040
the 1st sip.
This is one of the rare whiskeys

683
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,160
where once my palate acclimates
to it, I actually think the

684
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,680
finish is more bitter the second
time around.

685
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,280
I actually got like bitter
herbal notes on the very, very

686
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,920
back of my palate on the finish
here.

687
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,000
And so it's, it probably is the
weakest part of the experience

688
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,800
for me, but you know, it's the
difference between A10, a nine

689
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,040
and a half and a nine.
So yeah, I'm at a nine on the

690
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,720
finish.
On balance, I'm going to give

691
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:51,800
this a 9.5.
I I thought about A10.

692
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,280
That second sip, the finish is
just a little bit too bitter to

693
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,000
justify A10 for me.
But I'd love to hear where

694
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,600
you're at, Brad.
I'm at a 10 out of 10 on

695
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,480
balance.
Like I think that this brings a

696
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:10,160
complexity of an experience that
you need from a luxury whiskey.

697
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,560
And the complexity is a lot of
really great, great flavors that

698
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:20,520
work incredibly well together.
So I like this is an ideal

699
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,880
balanced whiskey.
Like when I think about what we

700
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,440
want in the realm of balance and
I, I think that when we're

701
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:33,440
talking about a luxury whiskey
now, you know, we, we brought

702
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:39,040
the luxury category on so that
we could talk about whiskey's

703
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,120
that are so highly priced, you
only go after them if you know

704
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,960
what you're getting into.
And I, I think it was helpful

705
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,760
because it's hard sometimes to
say like, what's the difference

706
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,280
between a $350.00 whiskey and a
$700.00 whiskey?

707
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,520
Like it's just difficult to
quantify that sometimes.

708
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,840
Whereas the difference between a
$30 whiskey and a $70.00

709
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,440
whiskey, it feels a little more
obvious.

710
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,680
I think that in the category of
luxury, and it looks like I

711
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,560
could find this online for like
350 to $500.

712
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,320
I think that this is a nine out
of 10, Bob.

713
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,440
OK, So what I'm seeing online,
Brad, is that they've released 3

714
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:26,480
versions of the Aston Martin.
And this is the, it says 2023 on

715
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,040
the label.
But then I'm looking at the

716
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,320
bottles and the label of the
sample that we have matches up

717
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:36,400
with the Aston Martin release #2
So I just want to get that out

718
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,920
there because if you go by the
3rd batch or the 1st batch, that

719
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,840
might not be what we're trying
today.

720
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,800
Again, that's just the downside
of trying one in a range of

721
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,000
things.
But I'm finding the batch too.

722
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,480
Like I'm on a website right now
that's selling it for $450.

723
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,920
I saw it for as much as $650.
This is the first time that I've

724
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,800
been like, you know what?
Yeah, if you, if I had $500

725
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,080
laying around and a bottle of
this came up for sale, I would

726
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,720
strongly consider not fixing
something around my house to buy

727
00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:11,880
a bottle of this.
Brad, this is a I'm going to

728
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,760
give it a nine out of 10, which
is taking me to one of my

729
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,840
highest scores in the history of
this podcast.

730
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:23,800
I'm at a 47 out of 50, Brad.
I'm a one point higher than you

731
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,080
difference.
I'm at a 48 out of 50, Bob.

732
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,040
This might be the highest scored
whiskey we've ever tried, Brad.

733
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,840
Yeah, I'm telling you, I was not
expecting this today.

734
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,240
I thought it would be a good
whiskey.

735
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:39,800
Yeah.
Wow, we're at a 47.5 on average.

736
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,400
We're a 95 out of 100, Brad.
Oh, we've definitely never hit

737
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,120
95 on our average.
This is insane.

738
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,800
It's so good.
I am so disappointed that we

739
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:57,320
don't have more of this to drink
because man O man like Now I

740
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:03,280
will say this is better than
Lagavel in 16, but I think

741
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,720
Lagoval and 16 is close enough
in quality to this that for

742
00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:14,920
$105.00 I feel justified in my
choice to keep that on my shelf

743
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,920
at all times.
The thing I like about this is

744
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,600
that there's a softness and a
subtleness to it that I think

745
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,160
sometimes peated Scotch
overwhelms the ability to, to

746
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,480
pick up some of those softer
notes on something.

747
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,120
And this, this still carries
like I'm getting notes of

748
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,040
strawberry still on the finish.
I'm getting some melon here.

749
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,280
Like it.
It's really softly peated, but

750
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,600
in a way that I think everything
complements each other to an

751
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,160
extent that I've never had in a
peated whiskey.

752
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,720
And that is something to to
really celebrate here.

753
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,160
Yeah, this is a whiskey.
You're right Bob, to be

754
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,040
celebrated Bo more.
If you want to send us more of

755
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,480
this, we will happily grovel at
your feet because it is

756
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,080
incredible.
Brad, we have a little bit more

757
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,640
to talk about with the movie
Skyfall.

758
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,400
So what do you say we get back
into that?

759
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:13,000
Let's get to it, Bob.
All right, everybody.

760
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:19,240
That was Bo Moore Masters
selection, Aston Martin 22 year.

761
00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:23,320
We believe it's the second
edition of that line up.

762
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:29,640
I, and I'll just say this, I am
like 99% sure it is the highest

763
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,160
combined rated whiskey we have
ever done on this podcast.

764
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,520
Yes, and I am going to be
emailing them and tweeting at

765
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,680
them and everything I can do A
to try to figure out is this the

766
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:46,040
batch 2 and then C, how do we
get on your distribution list

767
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,160
for every year that you I'll,
I'll do a Bond movie every year

768
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,280
when this comes out if we can
pair.

769
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,800
It with this movie yeah we just
need to find a holiday that that

770
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,520
makes sense with it We'll we'll
have our our Thanksgiving cruise

771
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:04,160
miss and whatever we come up
with for bond because Bo more is

772
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,280
incredible.
What do we need to drink?

773
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,160
More Bo More.
Fantastic, dude.

774
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,960
All right, Brad, I'm coming off
a loss last week in our next

775
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,800
game, which we call 2 facts and
a falsehood.

776
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:21,520
Brad is gonna try to stump your
ball. 2 are right and what is

777
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,520
wrong. 2 facts and a falsehood.
2 Facts and a Falsehood is the

778
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,280
part of the show where Brad
presents me with three items as

779
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,440
fact about the making of this
movie and I have to guess which

780
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,080
one is the falsehood.
I started the season 5 and O and

781
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,480
last week I knew I was going to
get it wrong no matter what I

782
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,960
picked and that self fulfilling
prophecy came true.

783
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:48,240
You were so confident in it that
like, I feel personally like you

784
00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:50,400
are threatening the integrity of
the game.

785
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,000
I think you threw last week,
Bob.

786
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,560
I didn't throw last week, but I
can't trust you.

787
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,080
And you were like, dude, you
know, you can change your

788
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,040
answer.
And as soon as you said that, I

789
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,080
was like, I, I, I, you're
playing 3D chess with my mind

790
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:03,880
now.
I don't know.

791
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,600
I know I can change it, but once
you start imploring me to change

792
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,720
it, I'm like, do you, do you
feel pity for me as a friend or

793
00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:13,080
are you just trying to get the
win here?

794
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,200
I'm just, I'm trying to prop you
up as much as you can, Bob with,

795
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:22,120
with like meaningless things.
This is basically what is it?

796
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,960
Whose line is it anyway?
Yeah, exactly.

797
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,720
Well, I'm five and one on the
season.

798
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,040
I did very little research into
the background of this film.

799
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,440
So Brad, you are ripe for
another win this week.

800
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,440
Hit me with your two facts and a
falsehood.

801
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,760
Fact #1 The script supervisor
had a difficult time with

802
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,520
continuity in some scenes,
especially in EMS first meeting

803
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,240
with Mallory as her bag kept
disappearing and reappearing in

804
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:52,400
cuts from Dench to fines.
Fact #2 Dame Judi Dench played

805
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,560
the role of M in this movie at
the age of 77, which also

806
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:02,880
coincided with it being her 7th
appearance in the role of M Fact

807
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,800
number three in the 50 years of
Bond films history up until this

808
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,520
point.
Daniel Craig is the first double

809
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,760
O 7 to ever be shown actually
being shot in the line of duty.

810
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:25,480
Interesting. #2 sounds like it's
the most plausible one.

811
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,320
I'm not sure if she was 77.
You may have been making that

812
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,200
number up, but I'm counting
Goldeneye.

813
00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:35,960
She was 77 1/2.
Goldeneye Tomorrow never dies,

814
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,440
The World is not enough, Die
another day.

815
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,320
Casino Royale, Quantum of
Solace, Skyfall.

816
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,080
It's definitely her 7th
appearance so I'm going to just

817
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:48,360
for now, assume that's true.
Has James Bond been shot before?

818
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:55,160
I have to imagine that he has.
I'd like you know, my guy could

819
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,680
take a bullet in the shoulder if
he needed to.

820
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:03,360
I mean, in this movie he does.
And then does the bag keep

821
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,800
appear disappearing?
Great, that sounds like AI

822
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,360
think.
My gut is telling me 3 is the

823
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,640
falsehood and if I overthink
this and drag it out it's going

824
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,280
to be boring audio.
So I think for the sake of

825
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,800
brevity and just being as
confident as James Bond when

826
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,240
you're gambling, I'm going to
say 3 is the falsehood.

827
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,920
Now, Bob, if I invite you to
change your answer this time, is

828
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,280
that like encouraging you to do
it since it discouraged you last

829
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:30,200
time?
Where?

830
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,120
Where are you at on the mind?
We're not even going to

831
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,120
entertain that.
We're just going to go with the

832
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,280
the gut today and say 3 is the
falsehood.

833
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:41,400
Final answer, final answer,
final answer is correct.

834
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,000
Yeah.
All right, now, did you do any

835
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,360
amount of research into when he
has been shot?

836
00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:53,400
Yes, this was the second time he
has ever been shot.

837
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:59,400
The first time was in
Thunderball, so it it was a rare

838
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,120
thing to happen in the movies,
but this is the second time he

839
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,600
had ever been shot.
The amount of times people have

840
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,880
shot at James Bond with machine
guns, for him to never get shot

841
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:14,000
is seriously impressive.
Yeah, I it's, it's a suspension

842
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,800
of disbelief, Bob.
All right, man, so I'm back in

843
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,360
the win column.
I'm six and one on the season.

844
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,000
Feeling pretty good about that
one, Brad.

845
00:50:23,720 --> 00:50:25,920
Yeah, I'm very happy for you,
Robert.

846
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,640
All right, let's talk about some
things in this movie that Bob

847
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,120
book really liked.
And I'll, I'll say this because

848
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,880
I, I feel like you're going to
be with me on this one, Brad.

849
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,720
Yeah.
I love a movie where the

850
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:42,080
characters have to fortify a
building and make their last

851
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,840
stance.
There's something about Last

852
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,120
Stand movies that just appeal to
me as a dude.

853
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:54,720
Yeah, when when Judi Dench is
like building plastic bag nail

854
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:59,320
bombs, it's freaking cool.
Like there's, there's no other

855
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,440
way around it.
There's limited resources and

856
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,560
lots of bad guys.
And we got to figure this out.

857
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:12,840
And I'm just like, it's like
every little boy's like play

858
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:17,360
session in the woods where
you're just like, we have to win

859
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,200
and we have no chance of doing
it.

860
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,960
Let's freaking go.
And this is what the montage was

861
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,920
invented for.
It's like cheesy ROM com girl

862
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:32,400
trying things on in the mirror
or dudes fortifying a building

863
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,960
because like those, those are
the only two things you ever

864
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,160
need or Rocky training to fight
somebody.

865
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,880
Those are the three uses for the
cinematic montage.

866
00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:43,800
And it just works so good.
Because then you get that that

867
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,880
shot of like Bond going back
inside and giving one last look

868
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,120
to the outside before he locks
himself in.

869
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,520
And and then you have the calm
before the storm conversation

870
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,240
with Judi Dench, and it has that
feel and that tension that you

871
00:51:57,240 --> 00:52:00,720
get with on a much larger scale,
a movie like The Two Towers when

872
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:02,560
you're waiting on Helms deep to
start.

873
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,280
I just, man, I couldn't make it
any farther in the episode

874
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,840
without talking about a good
fortification movie, you know?

875
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,640
Yeah, I have a public service
announcement.

876
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,280
Sylvester Stallone with a beard
is incredible.

877
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:21,360
Like just stupendous.
Daniel Craig with a beard.

878
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,720
A little less impressive in this
movie.

879
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,200
Does he have a beard?
I mean, he has some stubble.

880
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,560
It's like.
Yeah, it's like stubble, but it

881
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,200
it's like enough that you're
like, oh, I don't know if Daniel

882
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,520
Craig can actually grow a beard.
I think that there's very

883
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,760
different uses of facial hair
going on.

884
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,400
Like 1 is to to make him look
like a haunted, disheveled man.

885
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,120
Whereas Rocky's beard is like,
This beard is evidence that I

886
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,080
conquered a mountain.
Yeah, you know what I mean?

887
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,000
I need to see Craig with
Mountain Man beard to know if

888
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,080
it's good or not.
Yeah, if if like by the end of

889
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:58,480
the film he had a giant mountain
man beard and a Scottish accent

890
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,480
as he was defending the house, I
think I would have been a little

891
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,640
more bought in on the beard.
But you are right, Bob, the

892
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,800
fortification scene freaking
rocks.

893
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:12,080
And it's the only thing I truly
remembered from this film 12

894
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,000
years after watching.
It that's crazy.

895
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,800
So I feel like some of the more
I I keep using the word iconic.

896
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,120
I don't want to make it sound
like this is the the biggest

897
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,120
cultural movie ever.
But when I say iconic, like the

898
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:28,080
iconography of this movie, the
the memorable shots that are

899
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,840
purposely inserted into this
movie.

900
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,080
I remember a lot of conversation
happening around some of these.

901
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:39,280
And you know, for a guy that
used to read GQ, this movie is

902
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:45,880
where Tom Ford puts Daniel Craig
in a midnight blue shawl collar

903
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,200
tuxedo.
And it literally it was like The

904
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,800
Devil Wears Prada.
You know, that scene in The

905
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:54,120
Devil Wears Prada where Anne
Hathaway's like, I don't even

906
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,200
need you guys.
And then Meryl Streep's like

907
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,840
that blue sweater you're wearing
is the result of like 10 years

908
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,160
of fashion progress until you
found it in a market.

909
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,760
It's like that like that blue
tuxedo.

910
00:54:05,240 --> 00:54:06,640
Go ahead.
I.

911
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,760
Think that's the dumbest scene
in the world?

912
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,000
I mean, it's true, though.
It's a good encapsulation of how

913
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,480
the fashion industry works.
Yeah, I.

914
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:15,720
Also think it's really dumb I'm
not.

915
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,600
I'm not arguing with that.
I just want to say that tuxedo

916
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,880
like set the fashion roll on
fire for a long, long time.

917
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:28,440
And so like that, that is maybe
the most iconic Bond outfit of

918
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,000
the last, I don't know, 50
years.

919
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,200
So like the stuff like that, I
think this movie did a really

920
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:40,520
good job of becoming like having
tentacles that went outside of

921
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,840
just good action movie.
This is the first Bond movie.

922
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:50,040
This is the first Bond movie
that hit a billion dollars at

923
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,840
the worldwide box office that
had never been done before.

924
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:57,000
Like, this was truly something
caught on here with this movie

925
00:54:57,240 --> 00:54:59,960
that I don't know if we give
enough credit to now.

926
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,800
And maybe it's because there's
been two mediocre Daniel Craig

927
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,240
movies that came after it, But
this one?

928
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,000
Everybody saw this movie The
year it came out.

929
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,680
Yeah, this really was a cultural
icon for a time.

930
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:19,800
I will say, I don't know if I've
ever thought of the Bond suits

931
00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:23,680
as like something to take note
of.

932
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,600
I like, I know that they have
been a big deal in the world of

933
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,640
fashion.
I think if anything, I'm just

934
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,480
proving in this episode that I
don't give a freaking RIP about

935
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,840
fashion like we need at school.
Neat.

936
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:42,920
We know we know.
Besides besides that though,

937
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,200
like I said, they they tried to
stack the deck in terms of the

938
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,240
cast, the crew.
They also got Adele the year

939
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:53,880
after she comes out with 21 and
sets the world on fire with

940
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,440
Rolling in the Deep.
It becomes one of the best

941
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,160
selling albums in history and
they get Adele to sing the song

942
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:03,960
Skyfall, which is at the same
time not a good song.

943
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:09,040
And also there's like 2 lines in
the song that everybody like let

944
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,280
the sky fall.
Like there's just, there's just

945
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,600
something about the hummability
of that one little part of the

946
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:19,400
song that it's like, is this a
one of the best Bond songs?

947
00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:22,320
And I don't know.
Because I, I don't think it's a

948
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,640
really, when you just sit and
listen to it, I don't think it's

949
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:29,520
a very good song, but it's also,
it feels like a Bond song.

950
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:35,400
It has the weightiness that
Adele brings to a song, and I

951
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:40,360
think that's what makes it such
a good Bond song is that they

952
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:44,680
like, she just has that
huskiness and depth and, like,

953
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:49,080
epicness that you're like, Oh
yeah, man, I'm watching James

954
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,640
Bond.
Well, I think that's aided by

955
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:56,040
the fact that the Bond
franchise, to its credit, has

956
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,040
really stuck to its guns on
having the opening credit

957
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,760
sequence where there's just
silhouettes of naked women and

958
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,360
then like, ominous imagery of
like, things that might happen

959
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,400
in the movie.
And I do think that the Craig

960
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:13,400
series is the apex of the
opening scene or like the

961
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,240
opening titles in the Bond
universe.

962
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:21,320
Because even when you watch like
a, like a, a Pierce Brosnan Bond

963
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:25,080
movie, they're light hearted and
cheesy enough that, yeah,

964
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,400
they're showing you like clips
of things that are going to come

965
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,960
up in the movie.
But it never feels like

966
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,120
foreshadowing.
Whereas I feel like because

967
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,200
these movies are more serious,
you're seeing these, these

968
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,400
images on screen of things Bond
is going to encounter in this

969
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,400
movie.
And you're like, oh, this seems,

970
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:46,200
this seems ominous.
I think that one of the best

971
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:52,320
prop shots in any of the Bond
movies is the like elk that is

972
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:57,960
on top of the the gate into his
childhood home of Skyfall.

973
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:05,000
It's just such a beautiful shots
of a beautifully crafted item

974
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:10,200
that its inclusion in the
opening sequence was just so

975
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,760
cool.
All right, bro, there's one more

976
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,080
thing I want to talk about and
we're going to zoom out and just

977
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,440
talk about life here for a
minute.

978
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,480
This movie came out 12 years
ago.

979
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,520
Yeah.
Which first of all, that that

980
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,320
flew by because this feels like
it's a recent movie and it's not

981
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:27,480
anymore.
It's 12 years old.

982
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,360
It feels like a movie from a
different time.

983
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,080
And I don't know how else to say
it.

984
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,240
Like at multiple points of the
movie, like, yes, it's Deacons.

985
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,960
Yes, it's like I recognize all
these actors.

986
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:45,280
It felt it felt more akin to a
90s thriller than it does to a

987
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,800
2024 movie.
And it made me very bummed out

988
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:52,560
that like we we don't really get
movies like this anymore.

989
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,320
The closest thing we're getting
is the Mission Impossible

990
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,720
franchise, which to its credit,
also has the opening title

991
00:58:58,720 --> 00:58:59,880
sequence.
They know what they're doing.

992
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:04,160
But it's because Tom Cruise is,
like, so desperately trying to

993
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,520
remind people of why movies like
this work.

994
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:11,560
And I spent a good portion of
this movie, like, feeling old

995
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,160
because everybody in this movie
looks so much younger.

996
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:19,040
I couldn't believe these last 12
years have aged these people a

997
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,560
lot.
Like, Judi Dench is already 77.

998
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,480
And I'm like, wow, she looks
like a spring chicken, you know?

999
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,880
And like, Ray Fiennes still
looks like he has the

1000
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:30,800
youthfulness that he doesn't
have any more.

1001
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,440
And I was reckoning with how
long it's been since this had

1002
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:39,000
come out, but also how far
cinema has strayed from this

1003
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:43,040
model in just 12 years, that
this feels like a relic.

1004
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:48,000
Dude, I, I said that this is an
introspective movie on the world

1005
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,040
of secret agents, espionage and
aging.

1006
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,880
And like I said that for a
reason.

1007
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:58,600
I think that this movie is
freaking sad, especially now

1008
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:04,040
that we are watching it in 2024
and it already feels like a

1009
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,960
Inception level dream within a
dream.

1010
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:12,200
Like a movie about aging that
has already aged.

1011
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,320
You know what I mean?
Like I it is so hard to sit down

1012
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,920
and watch this movie and reckon
with the fact that.

1013
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,920
We all have to face ourselves
with that question that M and

1014
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,840
Bond find themselves asking
throughout the movie.

1015
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:32,840
And answering is like, what do
we actually care about in this

1016
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:39,080
world?
Like in a place where we feel

1017
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:43,680
like things are often life or
death and we have all these big

1018
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,760
questions about the world.
And, and like, to be honest, I,

1019
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:51,000
I think this episode is coming
out sometime around a week or

1020
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:56,000
two after the election.
Bob, is that like we are asking

1021
01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:00,840
big questions about what we want
for the future of our country

1022
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,480
and the future of the world?
We all have to reckon with the

1023
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,720
fact that it is the close
relationships that we form over

1024
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:12,160
the years of our life, just as M
and Bond have done in a

1025
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,320
professional setting.
Like, those are the things that

1026
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,320
matter most.
And are we going to be satisfied

1027
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,880
with them when we come to our
deathbed, as Judi Dench does at

1028
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,360
the end of this movie or not?
And I like, that's such an

1029
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,520
important question for us to
ask.

1030
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:32,000
And I don't know if I expected
to be asking that question at

1031
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,400
the end of a James Bond blow
things up.

1032
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:40,560
You know, like room defense.
Awesome.

1033
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,160
They like there's so much great
stuff in this movie, and yet I

1034
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:47,680
didn't expect to find the heart
of it to be such a basic

1035
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:53,960
elemental question of humanity.
100% And now I think for us,

1036
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:58,200
we're going to reckon with, do
those questions pan out and does

1037
01:01:58,200 --> 01:01:59,840
it work at what it's trying to
do.

1038
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,760
But before we give it a final
score and really evaluate it,

1039
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,760
it's time for our last segment
of the day, which we call Let's

1040
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,840
Make it a double presented by
Blackwood Distilling Company.

1041
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:12,480
We're near the end of the
episodes of Things listening to

1042
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,400
the film and Whiskey Show.
Let's pair another film with

1043
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,160
this one, even if it's struggle.
It's a final segment of the day.

1044
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,040
Now let's make it a double.
Let's.

1045
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,680
Make It a Double is the part of
the show where we pick a movie

1046
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,920
to pair up with this one to make
the perfect double feature.

1047
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,000
Brad, do you want to go first
today or do you want me to?

1048
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:31,880
I think I could probably go
first.

1049
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:32,360
Let's.
Do it.

1050
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:39,320
I think that a perfect double
feature for Skyfall would be

1051
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:45,080
Mission Impossible Fallout.
I think that both films kind of

1052
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:52,200
capture the idea of an aging,
you know, super spy that is

1053
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,560
trying to finish his one last
mission.

1054
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:59,400
I I think that there's a lot of
really beautiful, beautifully

1055
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,680
choreographed action scenes in
both.

1056
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,840
I think the cinematography is
great in both.

1057
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,800
I think that Craig is really
awesome in his role.

1058
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,840
I think that Tom Cruise is the
pinnacle of the Super spy.

1059
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:15,320
Like, it would just be an
absolute blast of an evening to

1060
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,240
watch these two films
back-to-back.

1061
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,840
Yeah, they really are like
brothers as as movies.

1062
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,400
They're all about, you know,
reckoning with your own

1063
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,200
decisions and mistakes and
regret.

1064
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,360
I'm trying to decide, like,
which of these two movies do I

1065
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,000
think is better?
Because they're very different

1066
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,560
movies.
But it, I mean, it's definitely

1067
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,920
the pinnacle of the Mission
Impossible franchise.

1068
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,920
And in a lot of ways, I feel
like this is the pinnacle of the

1069
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,400
Bond franchise.
So yeah, great pairing, dude.

1070
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,480
Thanks man.
Where where are you going with

1071
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,160
your pairing for?
Let's make it a double.

1072
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:49,040
You know, I, I had one that I'm
still going to stick with it,

1073
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:52,120
but I was like, no one's going
to see this coming.

1074
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,720
And then you named the movie
like 5 minutes ago.

1075
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,200
So I'm going to pair this movie
with Christopher Nolan's

1076
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,280
Inception.
I saw Inception in the movie

1077
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:05,440
theater again earlier this year.
And I feel like I forget how

1078
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:10,120
much that movie becomes about
Leonardo Dicaprio's repressed

1079
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:14,440
memory and regrets and how he
keeps burying things deeper and

1080
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:18,240
deeper in his psyche and how it
comes back to bite everybody.

1081
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:23,760
And the idea of hiding his wife
inside of this mental castle

1082
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,200
that he's constructed for
himself, where you have to go,

1083
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:30,280
like, way down the elevator to
encounter his deep, dark secret.

1084
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,760
I was reminded of that in the
sequence where Bond kidnaps M

1085
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,800
and is shuttling her off to a
place no one would ever find me.

1086
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,200
And it's, you know, it's his
past.

1087
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,000
It's the thing he he misses the
most, he regrets the most.

1088
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:49,640
His kind of rosebud is Skyfall,
and I think that like a

1089
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,000
Inception and Skyfall are both
just freaking bangers.

1090
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,880
But I said that Dark Knight was
a huge influence on this movie.

1091
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,920
I don't know if they did any
tweaking to the script between

1092
01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:03,400
the time Inception comes out in
2010 and the time this movie

1093
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,760
comes out in 2012, but I have a
feeling that Inception is a

1094
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,160
little bit of an influence on
this movie as well.

1095
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:13,080
So Inception is my choice.
Mission Impossible Fallout is

1096
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,600
Brad's.
Talk about 3 good movies dude.

1097
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:20,880
Also fun fact, great usage of
horns in inception.

1098
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:29,760
Do you think that, like, Hans
Zimmer came in to meet with

1099
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,520
Nolan at one point and he's
like, all right, I got it.

1100
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,000
I know the exact thing.
I'm going to build this around.

1101
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:35,600
He's like, oh, yeah, what is
that?

1102
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:39,840
He just flips the laptop rod and
presses play and it's just that

1103
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:45,000
one note.
Yeah, he's like D flat, my

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01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:46,200
friend.
D Flat.

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01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,000
What do you mean, Hans?
It's just a note.

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01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,880
He's like, you'll see.
They'll all see.

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They'll all see.
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All right dude, let's give
Skyfall some final scores.

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You're clearly cooler on this
movie than I am, so I I will

1130
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,920
turn the floor over to you.
Where are you coming out on

1131
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:11,440
Skyfall And and as you give your
score too, do you feel like you

1132
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:16,000
can evaluate this movie in a
vacuum or are you always going

1133
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,440
to be comparing it against the
rest of the Bond franchise?

1134
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,320
And what expectations are for a
Bond movie?

1135
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:27,720
Man, that is so tough because I
truly had growing up.

1136
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:34,960
I remember like watching scenes
or like half or 1/4 of some of

1137
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:38,720
the old Sean Connery, what's his
name?

1138
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,720
Rodger.
Rodger Moore.

1139
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,080
Yeah, Roger Moore.
Like I remember seeing scenes

1140
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,120
from those.
I don't know if I ever actually

1141
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,520
sat down and watched an entire
one with my dad.

1142
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:56,480
So really the Bond universe for
me is Daniel Craig through and

1143
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,160
through.
Like I, you know, I watched

1144
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,960
Goldeneye for the first time as
like a 31 year old for the

1145
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:06,160
podcast.
So for me, I think that the

1146
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:10,760
Daniel Craig universe is the
pinnacle of Bond and it's what I

1147
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:15,040
think of when I think of Bond.
I think that Skyfall is

1148
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,800
incredible.
I still think I like Casino

1149
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,040
Royale more.
I don't remember what I gave

1150
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,319
Casino Royale.
I think it was like an 8 1/2 or

1151
01:08:23,319 --> 01:08:26,560
A9.
I think that I'm at an 8 out of

1152
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:30,479
10 on Skyfall.
Like beautiful film, really well

1153
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:35,520
choreographed fight scenes, a
great score, some really

1154
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,479
engaging characters.
But there are some major flaws,

1155
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:43,319
in my opinion, with the tonality
of the film, the tonality of the

1156
01:08:43,319 --> 01:08:47,760
villain, that there's just too
much going on that takes me out

1157
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:51,359
of the experience for me to be
like 9 out of 10.

1158
01:08:52,399 --> 01:08:54,920
Brad, I'm going to give this
movie a 9 1/2 out of 10.

1159
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,520
I am way higher on this than I
remembered being.

1160
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:03,319
And I think for me it was it was
realizing halfway through that

1161
01:09:03,319 --> 01:09:08,200
yes, everyone's complaints about
this not being a very Bondy Bond

1162
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:15,160
movie are true, but at what it
is, which is a Oscar caliber

1163
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,720
action thriller, it's a freaking
great movie.

1164
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,640
I had a hell of a good time
watching this.

1165
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,760
You know when when Albert Finney
comes around the corner and

1166
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,640
shotguns a guy in the chest and
then says welcome to Scotland, I

1167
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,800
was like, hell yeah.
What a movie.

1168
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:32,880
I can, I can get down with that
one liner because he's just like

1169
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,000
a throwaway character that I'm
like, yeah, sure, why not?

1170
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:41,560
Like, that's awesome.
Now, Bob, I, I will say, I think

1171
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:47,120
every time I hear you say the
word 9 1/2, my like eye twitches

1172
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,399
a little bit because I remember
that that's what you gave The

1173
01:09:49,399 --> 01:09:53,080
Last Jedi.
And I think my brain will always

1174
01:09:53,319 --> 01:09:58,160
and forever indelibly think
Skyfall is so much better than

1175
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:01,360
The Last Jedi.
Can I tell you I I literally so

1176
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,320
much better?
I have a page of notes on my

1177
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,440
phone that I've been going
through and making sure we hit

1178
01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:09,680
every topic and the only
remaining item I swear to God on

1179
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:14,400
this list is mention the Last
Jedi just to piss Brad off.

1180
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,400
That is literally the last thing
on here.

1181
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:21,000
I I'm just going to finish this
episode by saying The Last Jedi

1182
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:26,320
is a garbage, horrifically made,
poorly executed film.

1183
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:33,400
So.
I love hearing I can hear the

1184
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,600
wheels in your head turning on.
How do I segue well?

1185
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,120
We got to end the Episode.
I, I was going to bring it up at

1186
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:40,360
some point because I was like
it.

1187
01:10:40,440 --> 01:10:43,800
It's kind of doing the, you
know, grappling with its own

1188
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,960
lore thing that Last Jedi does.
And I didn't know if that would

1189
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:50,240
be influencing you at all, but
you hadn't, you hadn't even

1190
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,600
tangentially brought it up.
So I was like, I'll set that

1191
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,520
aside.
We'll we'll piss Brad off some

1192
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,080
other day.
But now you've brought it up.

1193
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:59,040
So there you go, man.
It lives rent free in your brain

1194
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,160
dude.
It is your fault that you gave

1195
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:06,000
that terrible movie at 9 1/2 and
so now every future 9 1/2 that

1196
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,280
you give is like tainted in my
mind because I'm like, well if

1197
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:12,320
he gives Last Jedi a nine and
1/2, he could just throw it to

1198
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,320
any movie.
And throw it I did.

1199
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,560
Skyfall's a 9.5 out of 10,
folks, which is bringing our

1200
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:22,720
average to an 8.75 out of 10.
But we'd like to know what you

1201
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,200
think.
Is Skyfall the apex of the Bond

1202
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:26,840
franchise?
Or would you pick something

1203
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:28,920
else?
Let us know on any of our social

1204
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:33,080
media channels Facebook,
Twitter, Instagram, Tiktok or

1205
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:37,000
YouTube at Film Whiskey.
Or you can join the conversation

1206
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,920
on our Discord server.
We are on there every single day

1207
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,120
trashing Rian Johnson and The
Last Jedi.

1208
01:11:44,440 --> 01:11:48,280
So if you want to join that very
important piece of cultural

1209
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,400
discourse, you can find a link
to our Discord server at the end

1210
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,200
of every single one of our show
notes.

1211
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,600
Next week, a movie that I cannot
wait to talk about.

1212
01:11:56,720 --> 01:12:02,240
It is David Fincher's 2007
unsung masterpiece Zodiac.

1213
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,200
So we'll be back looking at
serial killers next week

1214
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,120
probably.
Going to give it a nine and a

1215
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,440
half I.
Absolutely will, but until then,

1216
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:11,840
I'm Bob Book.
I'm Brad.

1217
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:13,760
Gee, and we'll see you next
time.