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Cheers to the good stuff.
Today on the Film and Whiskey

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podcast, we are looking at the
Season 9 movie lineup.

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And we will be reviewing
Bardstown Bourbon Company,

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Silver Oak.
This is the Film and Whiskey

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podcast.
Hey everybody, welcome into the

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Film and Whiskey Podcast.
I'm Bob Book.

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I'm Brad G.
And one last time before Season

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9, we are coming at you with a
special bonus episode.

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Bonus.
Episode I never know if this is

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the kick off of season 9 or if
this is like the very last entry

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in season 8.
I, I feel like it's a kick off

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of season 9.
All right, well.

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Welcome to Season 9, folks.
Yeah, let's go we.

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Freaking did it, man.
We've made it to season #9 Brad.

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We have.
We've made it beyond the Elite

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8, if you will.
We're just slowly filling out

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the bracket.
The bracket of seasons that

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should be like if we ever get to
a season 32, we should just put

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every season into a bracket.
Yeah, that that would be a great

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idea.
Have everybody vote on their

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favorite season.
So with that said, how have you

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liked these last few seasons
like season 5?

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I think we should be like where
we start with this thought

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experiment.
That was the one where we each

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picked like 16 movies for the
other person to watch.

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I like that season a lot.
Then six and seven we did our

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director miniseries, and last
season we did the highest

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grossing film in North America
for 32 consecutive years.

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I think it's been a really
interesting few years or seasons

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in the history of the Film
Whiskey podcast.

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I think it was really fun to
switch things up, pick some

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movies that we just loved,
Instant classics like

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Elizabethtown.
I mean just a plethora of

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wonderful movies.
I still love Elizabethtown.

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It's it's terrible.
It's terrible in ways that are

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like, like angering like.
This does not cohere.

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This makes no sense.
In the same way that Chef fits

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in that that 2012 to 15 genre of
like kids explaining social

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media to their parents,
Elizabethtown.

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I will give it its credit.
It captures the late night phone

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conversation in the early 2000s
perfectly.

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And it's like one of the last
times that could happen 'cause

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now it.
Would just.

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We've talked too much.
We've talked too much about it.

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All right, fine, fine.
What we're saying is

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Elizabethtown is the highlight
of the last Four Seasons of our

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podcast.
Easily I I think.

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I think the director seasons
were super fun.

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It felt more like a cinephile
exploration of movie history,

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which was fun for two seasons.
Last season was a blast, man.

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It was a blast.
And yet, Brad, as I look at the

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download numbers for our podcast
over the last few seasons, you

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would think that those movies
would be more well known among

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the general population and
therefore theoretically get more

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listens.
But I think people who have

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tuned into our podcast want us
to be reviewing more classics.

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I think they they have latched
onto the conceit of the podcast,

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which is me, the classic film
lover, introducing my friend to

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classic movies.
And when we're doing like Sister

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Act, I don't think people are as
jazzed about that.

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I don't know man.
True Lies that is a modern

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class.
That movie is a freaking

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classic.
I don't care what anybody says.

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Well, this year we're going to
be moving from tanks bursting

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out of walls into a exploration
of what does it mean for a movie

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to not just be a classic, but a
modern classic.

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This is something that we've
been talking about for years and

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years.
I have frequently bring up this

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thing that TNT used to do, like
every Saturday night they have a

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movie and it was called the TNT
Modern Classics.

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And it was just like whatever
Warner Brothers movie was out

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that they wanted you to see.
They put it on as a modern

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classic, but we've talked a lot
about what are the criteria that

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have to be met for a movie to be
considered a classic.

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There's usually some alchemy of
either box office success or

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critical success or Oscar gold
that goes into it, or a

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combination of the three.
Sometimes the movie is a

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complete flop and then it gets
picked up later on.

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But usually it's because critics
were championing in in the early

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going.
And so we want to look back at

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the last 20 years.
We're going to cap it at 2005.

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We'll do 2005 to 2020, three, 24
and kind of present some films

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to the general population here
and ask the question, does this

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movie deserve to be considered a
modern classic?

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Should it be added to the 21st
century Canon?

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Now, Brad, we should say before
we go too far, we've already

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done.
I just had the number pulled up

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like 63 or 64 movies on this
podcast that would fall into

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this criteria, like movies from
the last 20 years.

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So a lot. 2004 to 2024. 20I I
started in 2005 S 2005 to 2024

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we've already done 67.
I'm sorry, 63 or 64 of these

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movies.
We could do multiple brackets

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with just these movies, but so a
lot of the ones that are already

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considered part of the 21st
century Canon, we reviewed

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already like we've done The Dark
Knight, we've done, you know,

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Social Network and Brokeback
Mountain, and like all these

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movies have been reviewed.
So we're not suggesting.

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And we know that Green Book
comes out on top.

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Yeah, Green Book and
Elizabethtown are the top 2

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seeds.
That we did have some

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qualifications for the movies we
selected this season, right?

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And it's not necessarily that
they checked all of these boxes.

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In fact, I think one or two of
these didn't check any of them.

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Yes.
But in general we are looking at

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4 main categories of Is this
something this movie

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accomplished?
Well, before you say what they

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are like, do you agree with what
I did here?

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Like I I put these into a
spreadsheet, I basically just

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arbitrarily chose 4 categories
that I thought would be good

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measures for what should be
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Do you think these are four good
ones or did I miss something?

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I think they're good ones, yeah.
I think you kind of checked the

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popularity box, the critics box
along with like, is it something

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that will AP, Is it something
that will appeal to audiences

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over the long term?
Cool.

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Well, I guess let's go ahead and
reveal what the four categories

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are, Brad.
So the first category is, was

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this movie nominated for Best
Picture?

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Yeah, I thought about doing
like, was this nominated for an

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Oscar in general?
But then I would have had to

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capture a whole bunch of movies
on this list.

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You know, I basically just
listed out every movie that

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qualified for every single
category and then narrowed it

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down from there.
And I think that like, yes,

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sometimes the Oscar nominations,
they they snub something that

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really should have been
considered a best picture

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contender.
This happened with If Beale

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Street to Talk, a movie that I
think really should have been

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nominated.
But in general, if it's not

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going to be a Best Picture
nominee, but we're still going

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to talk about it this year, then
that means it it hit one of the

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other categories.
So I didn't think that was like

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the end all be all.
Yeah.

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What's our next category, Bob?
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is this movie in the IMDb Top
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Now again, IMDb is always
weighted a little more

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frequently towards the recent
film, and so old movies suffer a

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lot.
But we're only going back 20

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years.
So a movie hasn't, you know, it

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doesn't have to have the staying
power of like Casablanca to

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still be kicking around the
bottom tier of the IMDb Top 250.

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Yeah.
And and we're not necessarily

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worried here with is it a top 50
movie or a 200 to 250 just

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didn't make the top 250 list.
And then staying in that realm

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of popularity, did the film a
crew $100 million at the

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domestic box office.
What was this popular enough in

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the United States of America to
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Right.
At $100 million, you know, it's

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nothing to sneeze at obviously,
but like in the era of MCU

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movies where it stops making
$600 million domestic, 100 mil

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doesn't seem like a big number.
But then you look at some of the

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some of the movies that came out
that were really small movies

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and got like an Oscar bump.
I'm pretty sure a movie like The

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King's Speech actually did clear
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office or something close to
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And like then you start
realizing, oh, that's a huge hit

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for a movie of that size.
So I think 100 mil is a good

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place to set this for kind of
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general knowledge of a movie.
Yeah, I mean, even a movie that

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might not be the most popular,
but like Wonka a year ago made

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133 million here in the US.
So I made half a billion dollars

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worldwide.
That's wild.

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It's a.
Really good movie.

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Man.
It is.

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It is a book family favorite.
My 4 year old family friendly,

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obsessed with Wonka.
Look at you go Timothy Chalamet.

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He's killing it, dude.
And that takes us to our last

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category.
Is this film part of the

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Letterboxed Top 250 now?
We have not done Letterboxed

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stuff on this podcast much
because it.

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Is like we're about to if you
could take.

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IMDb and say how can I make this
more insufferable?

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It would be letterbox.
Letterbox 8 years ago Bob was

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like.
You love Letterbox.

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No, So here's the thing.
I don't use Letterbox that

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frequently.
Like I, I log my movies and I

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give them a score, but I don't
write reviews on Letterbox like

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Letterbox is, is if you could
mash up IMDb and Twitter.

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It's like people saying really
pithy things and trying to get

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the cleverest take on a movie
and then everybody upvotes that

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review.
And so it's like, it is it is

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catching the the snobbishness of
film Twitter mashed up with the

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user functionality of IMDb.
However, I do think it's a good

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metric here because it is kind
of capturing the like the film

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nerd side of things.
If it's a snobbier side of

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things, if it's a movie that the
Snooty people like and it's a

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movie that the average Joes over
on IMDb like, that tells me it's

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a pretty good movie.
Yeah, 100%.

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I, I think that this is a good
metric.

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Like we have 4 categories and
we're not going to talk for each

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movie about what categories they
hit.

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Are we about?
Absolutely not.

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Yeah.
So essentially you just have to

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trust us that almost all of
these movies scored well in at

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least one of these categories.
Now there were about 6, about 9

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or 10 that hit at least three of
the four categories, and they

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would be movies that you
recognize.

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For sure.
And there was one movie to rule

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them all, Brad.
One movie that hit all four

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categories.
And it is perhaps the most

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recent film on this list as
well.

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Or darn near it.
It's a movie that came out just

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last year, swept the Oscars, is
on the IMDb top 250, grossed a

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whole bunch of money.
Letterboxed Bros love it.

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It is the Christopher Nolan film
Oppenheimer, and that is what we

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are kicking off Season 9 with.
Yeah, dude.

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I waited about a year after it
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mostly just to piss you off.
Yeah, I saw this movie at least

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five times in theaters, Brad.
Yeah, which is like 15 hours of

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your time, and that's just
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Not driving there.
There are worse ways to spend 15

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hours.
That movie freaking slaps.

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Brad yeah, no, that Oppenheimer
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It is going to get a very high
score from both Bob and I, and

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I'm so jacked to start the
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After Oppenheimer, we're going
to jump back 12 years to watch a

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little film called The Help.
The help a movie that the film

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Twitter does not like the Help,
but the general population does.

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It made a whole bunch of money.
I'm pretty sure it's on the IMDb

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top 250 still and it was
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So depending on where it's at on
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hit three of the four.
Brad.

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Yeah.
All right, after that, we're

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jumping into a movie that I
guess we should say I'm, we're

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swinging into a movie.
Hey.

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I was pretty cool on the first
time I saw it, but that everyone

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seems to love 2018's Spider Man
Into the Spider verse.

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Brad, have you seen any of the
spider verse movies yet?

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I have not.
I tried to get Haley to watch it

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with me at some point and the
preview was like so flashy and

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she was like that just looks
like way too much going on.

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I am uninterested it.
Is the only time in my life the

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last 10 minutes of that movie
where I had legitimate sensory

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overload where I was like this
my life this might trigger a

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seizure like it was disorienting
and IA lot of people loved it

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but I I couldn't do it man.
Would you say it's the animated

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version of a Terrence Malick
Just.

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Flying through.
Not even.

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Not even remotely.
Terrence Malick moves very

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slowly.
This movie does not.

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Well, following Spider Man into
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excited for this.
I feel like 2019 was a really

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incredible year for film and I
only was able to see a few of

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the movies that I'm still
wanting to come back around to,

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and one of those will be Ford V
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Ford versus Ferrari is the
ultimate dad movie.

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I mean, it's like it's a buddy
comedy.

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It's about getting stuff done
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It's about America versus the
world and cars go vroom like it

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is.
And it has Matt Damon.

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And it's such, such a good
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Are we just going to land on our
Let's make it a double with Top

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Gun Maverick?
We might as well.

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That like those that would be
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I'm already going to Ding at a
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victim to this thing that
they've been doing with movie

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titles lately.
That really pisses me off that

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they put AV instead of AVS when
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And when it's just V, it's like
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So you think that Ford V Ferrari
is like Ford is the cooling

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Cerrari in court?
Yeah, it's not that like Batman

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V Superman.
That sounds like the lamest

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court case of all time.
It turns out lamest movie of all

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time.
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courtroom version.
After Ford versus Ferrari, we

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are going back five more years
to 2014, to a movie that caught

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on like wildfire.
I remember seeing it at the

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local indie movie theater in
Cleveland because it wasn't

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playing anywhere else and it had
gotten really good reviews out

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of the festivals.
And it's a movie called

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Whiplash.
Once that movie hit the the

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mainstream, it just freaking
took off.

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But it was so funny to me
because I saw it.

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I posted about it, you know, on
Facebook or something after I

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saw it and no one else had heard
of this movie.

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And I was like, this is the best
movie I've seen all year.

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This movie is incredible.
I'm so glad that it's caught on.

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But also it's one of those ones
where I'm like, you didn't see

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this movie in theaters.
Like I hear people saying that

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now.
And I'm like, no, you didn't.

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I was the only one there.
I looked around.

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You weren't there.
Bob There were years and years,

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if any faithful listeners
remember guest host in like

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episodes 3 and 4.
Jordan, he's a great friend of

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mine.
And for years he tried to get me

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to watch Whiplash.
Like it would be like anytime we

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had a movie night with friends,
he'd be like anybody up for

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Whiplash.
And I would inevitably every

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single time be like, oh, that's
the one with JK Rowling in it,

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right?
And he would just, like, sigh at

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me in resignation that honestly
the way you kind of do, Bob.

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Yeah, we have a lot in common.
Jordan didn't.

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I you really do.
Let's bring Jordan back for that

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episode.
Oh, that's a great idea.

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Let's get him on.
You should ask him if he's

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willing to join us nine seasons
later.

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I'm sure he will.
All right, well, we're

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revisiting the year 2019 after
that to look at the Best picture

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winner of that year, a surprise
Best Picture winner, but a

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deserving 1, the Korean film
Parasite.

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This is another movie that like
everybody loves now, but it took

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a minute for this to catch on in
the in the consciousness.

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It reminds me a lot of
Everything Everywhere All at

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Once, how that was a really
small movie and word of mouth

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just kind of took it off.
And then by the time you got to

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the Oscars, it had a really
dedicated following of people

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who've been pushing for it.
That movie picked up momentum at

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the at the right time to win its
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And I feel like it's really
cemented itself as one of the

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best movies of the decade since
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I.
Don't know if you know this Bob,

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but I own it.
Do you really Blu-ray as a one

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of the Criterion Collections?
Have you watched it?

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I no, I just randomly bought it
Bob.

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Well I mean sometimes you you
bought 7 samurai before you

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watch that.
That is true.

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I did do that.
Yes, I did watch Parasite.

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I actually watched it the same
week that you and I watched

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Memento together.
Oh gosh, that actually sounds

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like a decent pairing because
they're both just like really

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twisted movies.
Yeah, I also watched Bicycle

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Thieves that week.
It it was a momentous week for

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my film watching.
My gosh, that's like B week for

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you man.
I've never recovered a movie

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that has recovered and recovered
the franchise in a lot of ways.

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Skyfall from 2012 is our next
movie.

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Can I just say I'm so pumped
about this season.

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We're going back-to-back to back
Ford V Ferrari whiplash,

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Parasite Skyfall.
Like what a freaking line up.

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What a dude's rule season this
is going to be.

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And following Skyfall, we have
Dune Part 2.

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Dune Part 2 are only to this
point 2024 entry for this

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season.
I'm very excited because

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Oppenheimer was the only film
that checked all four boxes.

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Dune checked like 3 1/2 boxes.
It has not yet been nominated

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for Best Picture.
It's pretty much a lock to

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though.
So Oppenheimer and Dune 2 are

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the only two movies that will
have had that distinction and I

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think we'll probably be hitting
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Well, let's see like mid to late
November.

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So right as award season is
starting to ramp up, I wondered

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about pushing this till later in
award season.

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But if if something else kind of
comes up and steals its Thunder

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and it doesn't end up winning
the Oscar, that could really

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backfire.
So I'm glad we have it where we

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do here, Brad.
Yeah, I'm, I'm really excited

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for it.
I am really excited for the next

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film, one that you've been
trying to get me to watch for a

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long time. 2007 Zodiac.
It is my favorite David Fincher

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movie.
I think it's the best thing he's

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ever done.
It is just like it's a

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procedural.
It's like dudes working at a

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newspaper.
So it's very much in the vein of

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like Spotlight or All the
President's Men.

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High and low.
No, that's like, well, kind of

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like high and low.
That's more of like an

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investigation.
But yeah, like, it's just guys

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who work at a newspaper who are
tracking a serial killer.

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It is infused with so much
dread, and it really captures

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the sense of panic that San
Francisco was in by the Zodiac

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Killer.
Just a freaking fantastic movie.

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Man.
I cannot wait to watch that.

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Yeah, I am super excited for our
movie following that La La Land

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from 2016.
Bob, this is a movie I saw in

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theaters absolutely loved.
I watched it about a year ago.

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Dude, I cried almost this entire
movie.

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OK cool.
It's so good.

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It's a good movie.
I like it.

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It's always been a movie for me
that's like, oh, this is like

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hinting at greatness, but it's
from the same guy that made

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Whiplash and Whiplash is like
legitimately great.

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And so La La Land always felt
like the slightest let down to

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me, even though it's gorgeous
and really well made and like

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well crafted, it's always just
felt like you're not whiplash,

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you know what I mean?
You're going to hold that

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against this movie, against Ryan
Gosling?

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I sure am, Brad.
And that takes us to a movie

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that I don't think we've ever
even mentioned maybe once on the

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show.
It's called District 9.

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It was nominated for best
picture.

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It's our first, well, I guess
Dune Part 2.

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But aside from Dune, it's our
first real sci-fi film.

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And it's it's hard sci-fi, man.
Like it.

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It's aliens who have become
colonized on Earth by the humans

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and forced to live in basically
like a ghetto in South Africa.

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And their attempts to partner up
with some humans and get done it

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is way more than that.
But it is just at at a basic

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level.
It's like, what if aliens were

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the stars of a James Cameron
action movie?

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And there you go.
I'm super excited, man.

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Yeah.
Do you feel like it pairs up

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with the following week's movie?
I think anything can pair up

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with this movie if you really
wanted to.

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We're talking about 2015's Mad
Max Fury Rd. a movie that the

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critics just love, man.
Like, this is by far the most

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loved action film of the last
10-15 years, even more than like

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Top Gun Maverick.
I I like it a lot.

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I think there's a lot to
appreciate here.

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I'm interested to see what you
think, because I don't think

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you've ever seen a Mad Max
movie, have you?

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I have never seen any Mad Max
films, not the 80s, not the

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modern versions.
I feel low.

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I feel though like I have been
hearing about this movie from

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the moment it came out and
people just never stop talking

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about it.
Yeah, Yep, yeah, it's a big

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letterbox movie because it's
insufferable, all right?

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After that, we are going back to
2019 yet again.

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What a freaking year 2019 was,
dude.

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I dude, I'm telling you, man, I
feel like like something in the

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air knew what was coming and
they were like, guys, we got to

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get these movies, get out.
Get them out now.

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Yeah.
Something literally in the air.

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OK, so we're looking at 2019's
1917, the second Sam Mendes

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movie on our docket for this
season after Skyfall and one of

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his best movies and a movie that
was, like, in pole position to

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win the Oscar until Parasite
kind of swooped in at the last

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second.
I really loved this movie in the

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theater.
And I hyped it up to you for a

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long time and you watched it at
your house and then you were

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like, and I'm like, yeah, dude,
it's like a real time movie that

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takes place in war.
Like you got to see that in the

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theater.
So I'm I'm interested to see how

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it holds.
Go ahead, go ahead.

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I'm pretty sure I saw that in in
theaters.

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Did you really?
Yeah.

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I thought you saw it like on
like you rented it.

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Or something on my cell phone.
Yes, on your old Nokia phone.

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Did you just say I rented it?
No, it's rented it.

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Rent.
I thought you were mixing up red

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00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,640
box and Reddit.
Yeah, don't watch movies on

450
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,800
Reddit, folks.
All right, let's get through

451
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,760
these last couple movies and
then we'll drink our whiskey

452
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,680
after that.
We're going to 2015 to watch 2

453
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,760
films back-to-back.
The Big Short, which is a fun,

454
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,440
fun movie from a director that
has fallen out of fashion with

455
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,080
the critics about the housing
crash in 2008.

456
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,480
Who's the director?
Adam McKay, the the comedy

457
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,600
director.
Yeah, yeah.

458
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,720
Now we're following that up with
Pixar's Inside Out.

459
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,520
And quite frankly, I've seen
Inside Out two like three Times

460
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,240
Now, Brad and I like it better
than Inside Out.

461
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,160
One.
Who was going to say it?

462
00:25:54,240 --> 00:26:00,400
Hot takes with Bob and finishing
up our first 16 films.

463
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,520
We are going to Bob's personal
choice.

464
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,120
This was a hand picked
selection.

465
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,960
Past Lives, 2023.
Past Lives maybe the least seen

466
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,280
movie on this list.
My I mean, even after I

467
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,800
acknowledge that Oppenheimer is
like the most deserving Best

468
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,720
Picture winner of all time, I
still think Past Lives is a

469
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,000
better movie than I like.
It's still my number one from

470
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,760
last year, and Oppenheimer is
like 1A.

471
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:31,240
But Past Lives will forever be a
part of me from here on out.

472
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,440
It's I.
I describe it to you as Brief

473
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:38,760
Encounter for the 21st Century,
and man, I can't wait to Yeah.

474
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,440
No dude, I watched it on an
airplane flying out to Colorado.

475
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,600
Absolutely loved it.
Was slightly distracted by the

476
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,600
person in front of me watching
Barbie.

477
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:54,320
I would occasionally look at
Barbie and be like, wow, I

478
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,120
really don't think I want to
watch that movie.

479
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,480
You don't believe me?
All right, my dude.

480
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,800
Well, let's get to this
Bardstown Bourbon Company,

481
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,440
Silver Oak.
What do you say?

482
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,120
That sounds great, man.
Let's get to it.

483
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,320
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All right, so today we're
checking out Bardstown Bourbon

504
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,480
Company collaborative series
Silver Oak.

505
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,040
This is a blend of straight
bourbon whiskey that's finished

506
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,440
in Cabernet barrels from the
Silver Oak Winery in California.

507
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,600
They have a lot of copy on their
website about just how cool and

508
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,280
how great Silver Oak is.
But for our purposes, Brad, this

509
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,960
is a blend of 123456 different
whiskeys originating from

510
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,040
Kentucky, Tennessee, Indiana,
and Georgia.

511
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,720
The oldest in this blend is 14
years old.

512
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,880
The youngest is 9 years old.
There's a variety of mash bills

513
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,080
going on here.
If you'd like us, if you'd like

514
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,120
to break down the entire thing,
you can find the blend and all

515
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,680
of its proportions on the
Bardstown Bourbon Company's

516
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,600
website.
But Brad, we have a task ahead

517
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,680
of us which is determining how
good is this thing?

518
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,400
And crucially, how does it
compare to the Bardstown Bourbon

519
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,240
Company we just had a couple
weeks ago?

520
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,480
Because that was darn good.
Yeah, it really was.

521
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,560
We have a good history with wine
finished.

522
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,960
Specifically I Is this a Cab
solve finished?

523
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,320
Yeah.
So specifically with Cab solve

524
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,400
the.
The reason we fell in love with

525
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,360
Bard Sound Bourbon Company was
their Pfeiffer Pavet.

526
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,920
Now we were informed by friend
of show David Thomas Tao a few

527
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:39,480
weeks ago that that has a little
bit of a controversial history

528
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,120
within the world of whiskey
tasters.

529
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,480
Some people loved it, some
people didn't love it.

530
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:50,320
I'm really excited to try this
new iteration of a Cab SOB

531
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,080
finished Barn Sound product.
I should say it doesn't say cab

532
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,080
SOB, it just says Cabernet
barrels.

533
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,000
So I don't know, Maybe, maybe
not.

534
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,640
We'll see.
But I do know that I have taken

535
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,440
notes on this thing and I'm also
drinking it again live just to

536
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,840
try to confirm that I wasn't
going crazy the first time.

537
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,880
Brad on the nose.
This thing is just rich deep

538
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,600
caramel and brown sugar,
especially brown sugar like I I

539
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,720
underlined brown sugar.
Lots of molasses for me.

540
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,600
A lot of black pepper on the
nose when I first popped this

541
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,400
and honestly not a lot of grape
influence.

542
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,480
Like I didn't get a ton of wine
character on this, but more of

543
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,560
like really rich, decadent
bourbon notes.

544
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,320
It kind of reminded me of that
Nomad Outland whiskey and how

545
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:40,280
that that was like if you took
Scotch and just made it 50 times

546
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,360
sweeter.
It almost feels like the wine

547
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,760
finish here did the same thing
with the bourbons they were

548
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,240
using.
I don't know, Bob.

549
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:53,920
I for me, I feel like this has a
really strong Sherry note on the

550
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,600
on the nose for me.
And then it gets really like

551
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,280
Christmas spicy.
Like there's cinnamon and

552
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,320
nutmeg.
I feel like there's like almost

553
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,240
a candied almond type of vibe
going on.

554
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,080
And, and I won't disagree with
you, there is caramel.

555
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,040
There is like really deep dark
brown sugar molasses, so that

556
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,320
like yeah, that is 100% there.
But but for me, that Sherry

557
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,880
really comes through to give it
those grape characteristics.

558
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,280
Yeah, I would give us an 8 out
of 10 on the nose.

559
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,600
I don't know if you put scores
to your notes here, Brad.

560
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,400
Yeah, I I actually said the same
thing. 8 out of 10.

561
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,040
I'm also at an 8 on the taste.
I just said the taste is like a

562
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,120
very dark bourbon and then I put
in quotes like I was, I was

563
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,680
workshopping names like Bourbon
Noir and Bourbon Midnight.

564
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,720
It just reminds me of like
bourbon at night time.

565
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,120
I don't know how else to explain
it.

566
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,960
There's a lot of brown sugar,
there's a little bit of plum,

567
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,720
and I got quite a bit of Raisin
on this as well, which is

568
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,760
something that we tasted on that
high wheat with David Thomas Tao

569
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,200
a couple weeks ago as well.
There's a tiny bit of Cabernet

570
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,280
here at the end, but I think
mostly where that finish is

571
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:05,120
taking on some somebody here is
in imparting that oak influence

572
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,400
because it's like a a little bit
tannic for me.

573
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,560
It got quite a bit, I don't know
if I would call it bitter, but

574
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,560
it was like that toasted oak
kind of flavor right on the back

575
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,040
of my palate when I went to
swallow.

576
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,720
I like this a lot, but I think
I'm just going to stick in an 8

577
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,640
out of 10.
I am with you on the score 8 out

578
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,160
of 10.
I think that the what I

579
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,040
interpreted as Sherry almost
turned into like a cherry

580
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,440
cordial for me.
There's caramel, there's brown

581
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,280
sugar, vanilla becomes much more
prominent.

582
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,800
It almost reminded me of like a
really dark rich toffee.

583
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,840
I I'm a really big fan of this
Bob.

584
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,520
Man, we are in really different
places in what we're picking up

585
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,320
on this on the finish.
I said that this almost reminded

586
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,920
me of like a really dusty
bourbon.

587
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,000
Not a not a dusty like an old
bourbon, but sometimes we have

588
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,880
tasting notes where we're like,
oh, this reminds us of like an

589
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,440
old dusty barn or like sawdust
or something like that.

590
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,960
I got that a little bit on the
finish here, which is something

591
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,960
that I was trying to pinpoint.
Which distillery does that for

592
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,440
us?
Is it Heaven Hill products?

593
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,320
Is it like 4 Roses products?
I think it's Heaven Hill and if

594
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,920
I'm look, I'm looking at the
blend here, I suspect there's

595
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,240
some Heaven Hill distillate in
this blend, so maybe that's what

596
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,280
I'm picking up.
I think the fruitiest part of

597
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,120
the experience was the finish
here.

598
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,080
But again, there's a little bit
of slight bitterness from that

599
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,880
sour oak, that toasted oak
flavor that I don't like.

600
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,120
A lot of times I'm going to come
down to a 7 1/2 on the finished

601
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,160
bread.
I actually think this is where

602
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,840
we're finally splitting ways,
Bob.

603
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,360
I think this is an 8 1/2 on the
finish at like all of the

604
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:45,160
flavors I enjoyed on the 1st 2
portions of this whiskey just

605
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,480
felt like they they warmed and
they became a little more rich

606
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,040
and a little more deep on the
finish.

607
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,080
I think that the nutmeg and
cinnamon notes came back around

608
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,000
from the nose.
I think the toffee turned into

609
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,920
like a really nice soft
butterscotch and the oakiness

610
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,560
did come through in the finish
in a really nice way to balance

611
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,080
out how things were moving in a
sweeter direction for me.

612
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,679
I really like this finish a lot.
What was your score?

613
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,159
8 1/2. 8 1/2 All right, on
balance, here's what I wrote

614
00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:21,960
down.
As all Bardstown Bourbon Company

615
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,840
whiskeys tend to be, this is
really solid and I, I feel like

616
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,719
I kind of have to grade on a
curve a little bit with

617
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,320
Bardstown because everything's
good.

618
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,679
Like we the worst whiskey from
them I've had is still like a 7

619
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:37,199
out of 10 in on my scale, and I
think that this is really well

620
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:40,159
balanced.
It's probably the most bourbon Y

621
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:43,800
of their finished bourbons that
I've had in a long time, meaning

622
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,719
that I didn't get a lot of the
wine finish on this.

623
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,560
It just kind of tasted like a
bourbon that had some parts of

624
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,120
it amplified by whatever they
were finishing in.

625
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,000
I wish there was a little more
wine character to this, but

626
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,280
overall I think it's still
really good.

627
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,240
I'm going to give it a 7 1/2 on
balance.

628
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,680
I think it's an 8 1/2 On
balance, Bob.

629
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:08,160
There is a beautiful complexity
of flavors here that it's not an

630
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,000
overwhelming amount of
complexity, but it takes the

631
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,720
flavors it has, mixes them
together beautifully and gives

632
00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:17,960
you a really great drinking
experience.

633
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,360
All right, that takes us to
value.

634
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,800
This is one of their more
expensive offerings, Brad, this

635
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,040
is $160.00 MSRP.
They've been doing some of their

636
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,640
collaboration series or
collaborative series at this

637
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:34,000
price point, which is like, it's
not unfortunate, it's just a

638
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,360
tougher sell to the average
consumer.

639
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,840
So you not only have to say, OK,
is this a really good product,

640
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,040
would you pay 160 for this?
And could you feasibly convince

641
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,000
someone else to pay 160 for
this?

642
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,600
I think that's where I'm going
to pull back on the reins a

643
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,680
little bit here, Brad.
I think this is only about a 5

644
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,440
out of 10 on value.
And it's because I've had other

645
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,400
things at this very price point
from Bardstown that I like

646
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,600
better than this.
Now, is this on its own a

647
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,720
$160.00 whiskey?
Yeah, I think it's absolutely

648
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:05,720
worth the like.
I don't think it's overpriced at

649
00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:07,680
all.
It's a justifiable price for

650
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,240
what they're doing and what
you're getting.

651
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,200
But among their bourbons priced
at this point, it's not my

652
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,600
favorite.
So I'm just going to give it a 5

653
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,320
here.
Would you say that the Amroot

654
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,600
collaboration is is kind of the?
Oh, it's like leaps and bounds,

655
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,520
Yeah, for sure.
And I think the five for Pavit

656
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,080
when they were first selling it
was like 120.

657
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,680
So I, I don't even know, like I,
I feel like I still might take

658
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,040
the Pfeiffer Pavot over this
bread.

659
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,720
I think I would too.
I think this is a good value.

660
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:40,360
I, I came out a little higher on
my flavor scores than you did,

661
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,520
but I'm, I'm kind of with you.
I would give this a 6 1/2 on

662
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,960
value.
I think it's worth it.

663
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,920
But for me, like 7 out of 10 on
value is when I start to go, OK,

664
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,640
this is this is a good bottle of
whiskey at the price point.

665
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:03,280
It's just below that for me.
I am coming out to a 39.5 out of

666
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,040
50.
I'm at a 36 out of 50, so we

667
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,080
weren't as far apart as we were
making it sound.

668
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:15,280
That takes us to a 75.5 out of
100 or a 37.75 out of 50.

669
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,800
This is well into the territory
where we would start

670
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,760
recommending that you try or
buy.

671
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,440
It doesn't quite hit the 40 out
of 50 mark where it may becomes

672
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,400
a no brainer recommendation from
us.

673
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,840
So it's definitely a thumbs up.
Brad, in what form would you

674
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,800
recommend getting this?
Is it worth a pour?

675
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,200
Is it worth a bottle?
What would you?

676
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:39,120
What would you do?
I would say I mean it you know

677
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,920
that always depends on where
you're at.

678
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,320
I would say this is worth
splitting with a friend.

679
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,320
I like.
I would say drop 80 bucks each,

680
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,400
enjoy a bottle with a friend if
you're in that level of like,

681
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,080
yes I want to enjoy some fine
whiskey.

682
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,800
I want to have a good night with
a friend.

683
00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:58,200
I think this might be worth
that.

684
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,920
All right, so there you have it.
We we really like this whiskey.

685
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,080
This is not a huge spoiler
coming from Bardstown Bourbon

686
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,840
Company.
They continue to do great

687
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,880
things.
I don't understand how they can

688
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,480
do so much.
Like honestly, they're, they

689
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,840
just, they turn on the money
machine and stuff comes out man.

690
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,560
They they're doing a lot at
Bardstown Bourbon Company.

691
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,440
Yeah, if you've never been down
there, please make your way down

692
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:26,000
to Bardstown, KY Check out the
distillery, do a tour, eat some

693
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,160
food there.
It is an incredible experience

694
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,360
that you will never regret.
All right, man, what do you say

695
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,920
we reveal the last half of
Season 9?

696
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:45,360
Let's get to it.
All right, Bob, we have 16 more

697
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,040
movies.
I think what I want to do is I'm

698
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,520
going to reveal 4 at a time and
you're going to just give me

699
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,760
your like three word summary for
each, all right?

700
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,280
Yep, All right. 2019's Once Upon
a Time in Hollywood, 2015's

701
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,880
Creed, 2022's Everything
Everywhere All at Once and

702
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,760
2019's Joker.
Once Upon a time in Hollywood.

703
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,200
Need to revisit.
I was really cool on it the

704
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,040
first time.
Yeah, Creed all time.

705
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,920
This is one word sports movie
classic.

706
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,720
Everything ever, all at once.
Doesn't hold up.

707
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,240
Oh, that's a hot take.
It's a good movie, but like,

708
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,480
it's not going to age well.
I watched it a second time and I

709
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,800
was like, Oh yeah, 10 years from
now, we're going to be like, we,

710
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,280
we were caught up in the hype on
this one.

711
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,080
All right, and your favorite
movie of the season?

712
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:46,080
Joker.
Folia, adieu, adieu.

713
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:54,600
All right, here's your 4, Brad.
2012's Argo, 2013's The Wolf of

714
00:39:54,600 --> 00:40:02,600
Wall Street, 2015's Spotlight,
and 2014's Her Argo.

715
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,480
I'm going to say got to get him
out.

716
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,000
Do you get it?
Yeah, that was a Brad explains.

717
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:15,200
I like it.
That's what we should institute

718
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,320
this.
This season is one second, Brad

719
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:22,240
explains.
I'm thinking of it to the tune

720
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,240
of of Pokémon.
Got to get him out, got to get

721
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:32,160
him out.
Wolf of Wall Street got to take

722
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,440
some Quaaludes.
Candle in ass.

723
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:45,080
Spotlight no clue and her got to
talk to some Scarlett Johansson

724
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,800
man she is incredible.
What a voice.

725
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,760
I I can see, I can see why my
guy Joaquin was was getting

726
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,720
horny for his computer.
That's all I'm saying, right?

727
00:40:56,720 --> 00:40:59,800
You know, Yeah, understandable
predicament to be in.

728
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:05,360
All right, your 4 movies are
2019's JoJo Rabbit, 2013's

729
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:11,400
Prisoners, 2007's Ratatouille,
and 2011's Moneyball.

730
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:16,280
JoJo Rabbit, this is more than 3
words.

731
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,200
Why do people hate this?
People hate that movie.

732
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,920
Oh dude, like film Twitter and
letterbox.

733
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,200
They hate JoJo Rabbit.
They hate it.

734
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,480
They don't like Jewish Hitler.
They don't like Jewish Hitler.

735
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,280
What the heck, man?
Prisoners.

736
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:36,120
Denny's best film Question mark.
Denny Who?

737
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,840
Denny Villeneuve.
Villeneuve.

738
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,960
Or, as we say in the States,
Dennis Villanova.

739
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,280
Like the College?
Yeah, yeah.

740
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,440
All right, Ratatouille.
I mean, one of Pixar's best.

741
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:57,400
It's just, it's so good.
And then Moneyball all time.

742
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,160
This is one word sports movie
classic.

743
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,920
Yeah, it's weird, Bob.
You had two of those.

744
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,640
I know.
All right, Brad, and then to

745
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,240
round out the season, we've got
a couple very recent ones here,

746
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,880
2023's The Holdovers, then
thrown it back to 2010 for How

747
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,320
to Train Your Dragon, throwing
it all the way forward on the

748
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,160
dragon theme, we're going with
Godzilla -1 and then we're going

749
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,160
to round things out with 2014's
John Wick.

750
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,040
The Holdovers This might be the
hottest take of the entire

751
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,600
episode, so I'm glad you guys
have stuck around for this

752
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:37,800
better Dead Poets Society.
How do you move on?

753
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,760
Hold on.
I I reserve the right for us to

754
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,040
call an audible and throw this
back in the schedule around

755
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,520
Christmas time because it's a
Christmas movie like.

756
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,240
Oh, 100.
Percent like I I feel like doing

757
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:54,400
this in May is not going to be
helpful to anybody.

758
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,520
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I know if you if you want

759
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,000
to push that back, I am a OK
with All right, cool.

760
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:05,360
How to Train Your Dragon,
perhaps the best non Pixar

761
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,440
animated film.
Yeah, that was a long 3 words.

762
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:14,280
It was Godzilla -1 Godzilla go
boom.

763
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,880
Yep.
John Wick.

764
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:18,040
Pew.
Pew.

765
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:22,760
Pew.
I'm going to love these, Brad

766
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,520
explains man.
Going to be a good time, Bob.

767
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:27,760
All right, folks, there you have
it.

768
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,400
There's our Season 9 lineup.
We will be pairing these with

769
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,880
whiskey during the episodes.
And we want to say thank you,

770
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,840
first of all, to our friend Zach
Johnston, former writer at

771
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,200
Uprox, who got rid of a whole
bunch of whiskey when he

772
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,360
recently moved and gave us
bunches and bunches of it.

773
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,040
So all of the whiskeys we're
drinking this season, I believe

774
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,760
except one, we're provided by
our friend Zach, a lot of these

775
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,160
whiskeys are very pricey.
They are unattainable even by

776
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,640
us.
And so we're going to be talking

777
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,720
about how pricey they are
usually.

778
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,480
That they're modern classics,
Bob.

779
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,400
Well, usually we're like the
value guys, but this this

780
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,920
season, we're like the guys in
tuxedos with our pinkies up.

781
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,000
Where Where Parks and Rec treat
yourself.

782
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,720
I'm looking at one of them right
now.

783
00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:13,640
It's the McAllen 31 year Brad
and you and I have to find a way

784
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,160
to split 50 MLS of it so.
I was going to say that is

785
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,280
almost as old as us, Bob.
Oh my gosh, almost.

786
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,960
That's how old we are, man.
That's how.

787
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,840
Old we are like, jeez, that
whiskey's so old so that it's

788
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,720
not even as old as as we are.
Oh man.

789
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,560
All right, guys, we want to know
what you think of our lineup.

790
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,520
You can let us know which film
you are most looking forward to

791
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,520
by talking to us on any one of
our social media platforms.

792
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,600
You can find us on Facebook,
Twitter, Instagram, Tiktok and

793
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,640
YouTube at Film Whiskey.
Or you can join the conversation

794
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,520
on Discord.
We will be posting this year's

795
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,360
lineup and having a conversation
about it.

796
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,880
So if you want to join that
conversation, you can find a

797
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,880
link at the end of every single
one of our show.

798
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,160
Notes, but until then, I'm Bob
Book.

799
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,200
I'm Brad G.
And we'll see you next time.

800
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:03,600
Music.