Scoring Christopher Nolan / Lawrenceburg Bourbon Company

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This week on the Film and

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Whiskey Podcast we will be doing
what every director loves most,

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scoring them out on a arithmetic
based measurement.

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Then after we score out,
Christopher Nolan will be trying

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2 whiskeys from Lawrenceburg
Bourbon Company.

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This is the.
Film and Whiskey Podcast.

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Hey everybody, Welcome into the
Film and Whiskey Podcast.

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I'm Bob Book.
I'm Reggie.

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And we're coming at you with
another special bonus episode.

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I just see like whenever you say
coming at you like.

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Having finger guns coming at you
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Reminds me of like when we were
little kids and we would watch

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like Nickelodeon, they always
said stuff like that.

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Like we're coming at you with
all new episode of Peter Nikail.

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And later on Bob's gonna get
slimed.

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Anywho, we're coming at you with
a new bonus episode.

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Bonus episode.
Today we are reviewing our three

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films by director Christopher
Nolan.

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And we will be running Nolan
through our trustee 5 point

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metric to determine just how
good is this guy anyway.

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Now if this is your first time
joining us for scoring a

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director, I honestly Brad, I
expected this to generate a lot

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more buzz than it has because I
thought people would be like who

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are these guys?
Why do they think they can talk

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about my favorite director like
that?

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No one really cares.
It seems people, really people

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really like to just hear us give
scores.

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And move about that day so you
know I'm fine with.

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It yeah, That's basically all we
do on this podcast.

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Not as controversial as it once
seemed, but.

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Although we are now getting into
the territory of the Nolan Bros.

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The fanboys?
Yeah.

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So if this is the first time
you're joining us while we score

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a director, here's the history
of it.

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Last year we had a bonus episode
where we did this for the

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patrons.
We thought it was a really fun

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thing to do and we tried to
narrow down what are 5

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categories.
That you could determine what

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makes a good director, A good
director based on those

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categories and the ones we
settled on were performances.

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So how good are they at getting
great performances out of their

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actors?
Cinematography.

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Not just like how does the movie
look, but how does the director

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in collaboration with the
cinematographer put together

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what's on screen and how the
movie looks overall editing.

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That encompasses the rhythm, the
flow of the movie, you know,

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some really great cuts or the
sound editing as well.

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It all plays into editing,
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What kind of a world is the
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Does it hold together?
And then finally, uniqueness

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among his or her peers, Does
this director stand out in a

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good or bad way?
I guess.

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And so, yeah, Christopher Nolan,
you're about to get run through

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this metric today.
Yeah.

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And I I'm excited to get into
it, Bob.

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We're also going to be drinking
some whiskeys from Lawrenceburg

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Bourbon Company and I'm really
excited for those because I

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personally have already drank
them and I can tell you it's

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going to be a good review.
Well, there you go.

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So just to lay some groundwork
here, as we get into talking

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about Nolan, we only are
considering the three films that

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we watched from him this season.
So we have already reviewed

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Inception, Interstellar, and The
Dark Knight in past seasons.

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And this time around, we're only
evaluating him based on Memento,

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Dunkirk and The Prestige.
Those are the three that we did

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this time around, which I think
is a really interesting set of

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three, Brad, because neither of
us thought that like taken as a

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collective these that these are
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So I think it's going to be cool
to see like where each of us

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find little points to nitpick
him about.

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And I guess without further ado,
let's just jump in, Let's talk

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performances.
Brad, I feel like I've been

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talking nonstop for like 5
minutes, so you go ahead and

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give me your performance score
on Nolan and tell me why.

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Performances.
I think that The Prestige is

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really going to help him stand
up here.

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I think Memento was fine.
The the thing for me with

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Memento is that there it just
felt like there's a lot of

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wooden acting and guy, my guy
guy just.

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Struggled being a normal guy.
You know what I'm saying, Bob?

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And so I, you know, there's
parts of that that I struggled

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with.
But overall, I think that The

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Prestige and Dunkirk, you have
some really great performances

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in Dunkirk.
I don't remember the name of the

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young man who was supposed to
carry the movie and just

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doesn't.
Finn Whitehead.

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Yes, Finn Whitehead.
All I remember about Finn.

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Is that a lot of times when
we're recording episodes?

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I'll just kind of like keep IMDb
up on my phone to like the movie

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just so I can remember, you
know, cast people and all that.

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And Finn Whitehead, the picture
that he has on his IMDb there's

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like he's like kind of off
center to the left and there's a

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woman that's just obnoxiously in
the center of his IMDb photo.

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You need to go look at it, Bob.
What a great metaphor.

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Yeah, Yep, that's that's about
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So, but we're talking
performances here.

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I think that Hugh Jackman and
Christian Bale are stupendous in

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their roles in the prestige.
I think Scarlett Johansson is

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incredible.
I think Michael Caine is

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incredible.
So all of those, I think for me

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are going to lift him up to an 8
1/2.

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I I just think he struggles
enough in the other films that

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he doesn't quite get that nine
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Yeah, Brad.
I'm also going to give him an 8

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1/2.
I think that overall he is a

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really good director of actors.
Listen, it's impossible to

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actually divorce the other
movies that I've seen from Nolan

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from my thought process here,
but you and I did have differing

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thoughts on various people in
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I liked Guy Pearce a lot.
I didn't love the dialogue that

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he was given.
However, we don't always factor

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in writing because it's not
often that the OR.

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It's not always I should say
that the director and the writer

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are the same person.
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I'm going to reflect that in the
performances score.

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Because if the actor is given
wooden enough dialogue, I think

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that most actors are going to
have a hard time pulling that

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off, and so it reflects poorly
on their performance ultimately.

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So yeah, I'm going to give him
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I think you're right.
Hugh Jackman is maybe the best

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performance we've ever seen in a
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And that really does kind of
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actors around.
Him.

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But I can't go any higher than
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Yeah, So jumping into
cinematography, I think that

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this is where you I was really
glad that we chose these three

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specific movies because from
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With, you know, The Prestige
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him, you got to see him grow as
a cinematographer, like his

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ability to move the camera, to
control the shot, to get what he

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wants on screen and nothing
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I think he's kind of a master of
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By the time you hit Dunkirk,
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little bit.
But there's still moments where

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you're like, oh, there's
Christopher Nolan coming

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through.
I think I'm going to give him a

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nine out of 10 here.
He had a long time

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cinematographer, collaborator,
kind of the way that Spielberg

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always works with Yanush
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Now he had a guy named Wally
Pfister who got nominated for

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like 3 or 4 Oscars with Nolan.
I think he may have won one

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Oscar and then they had, I don't
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falling out.
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directed a movie by himself and
then it flopped and he doesn't

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really do much anymore.
And you can see the visual.

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Differences in the
cinematographers that he works

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with now versus his older movies
even up through like, I don't

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know, was it Inception, the last
one that he did, or it may have

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been The Dark Knight, I don't
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In any case, Dunkirk looks a lot
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Memento do, and both of those
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I still think that the
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is second to none and the way
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Like the various sizes of things
on the screen, like a tiny

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little, you know, pinhead of a
plane off in the distance versus

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the person watching them in the
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Really, really cool
cinematography.

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I just sometimes I do miss the
old look of Nolan films a little

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bit more, but I'm going to give
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Yeah, Wally Fister famously
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Is that for real?
Is that what he wanted for?

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I have no idea, but he did.
He was the cinematographer for.

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It.
Well, there you go.

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So next we have editing and we
remember that this includes the

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sound and musical editing as
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of scene to scene.
Bob, I think that he might be

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one of the best editors of
movies that we've seen like I I

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just think he has an ability to
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With with just so much talent
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see that in The Prestige, I
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And once again I I'm realizing
now I'm like I like I liked

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Memento, but it seems like it's
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these three films, Bob, because
it's it's keeping me from giving

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him a high score in any of these
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I'm going to give him a nine out
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I'm really surprised that you
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both agreed in the Memento
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that movie's all about.
Not just that, like, oh, it only

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holds together because of the
way it's edited, but the things

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that work about it are so
reliant on very particular cuts

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and very particular rhythms.
And the last 20 minutes of the

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movie is, you and I both said
perfect, and it's perfect

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because of the way it's cut
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I am not always a fan of the
Nolan.

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I have to have three intercut
storylines going on at the same

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time thing.
But it always does make for a

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really propulsive kind of rhythm
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And so, yeah, I'm with you, man.
It's not always the best editing

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in my mind, but he certainly
wins the award for most editing.

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And I think that, you know, when
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kind of the same thing.
So I will also give him a nine

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here.
You know what?

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You're right.
I'm going to give him a nine and

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a half.
I think that this might be might

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be his highest category.
So yeah, I'll give him a nine

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and a half here.
Cohesion, maybe his.

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Worst category?
Maybe his worst.

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And like even I think about
Inception and and his other

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films and I'm like this is the
area where like our comments on

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Interstellar I think applies.
This is the place where he tries

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to hit a Grand Slam every time
he's up to bat and sometimes he

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hits like a nice two run Homer,
but man, he like.

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He's always swinging for the
moon.

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I think he accomplishes it
sometimes, but.

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It it can be rough sometimes,
man.

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His movies can be hard to
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He is truly the.
He's the David Ortiz of Major

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Hollywood.
He's either hitting a Homer or

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he's striking out in
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The thing with Nolan is like, I
I keep going back to the comment

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that we were we made when Bill
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And we talked about Roger
Ebert's thoughts on The Prestige

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and how he felt cheated by this
literal Deus Ex machina at the

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end of the movie.
And I do think there's something

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to that.
I still think the movie works,

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but I can absolutely understand
why that reveal could collapse

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the whole movie like A House of
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And I think Nolan is guilty of
doing that in a couple different

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movies.
So you if you're impressed by

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the sheer, I guess, magic trick
of storytelling that he likes to

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do, and if you're impressed by
how clever it all is, then it it

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it might be a 10 out of 10 for
you.

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But I have found myself on more
than one occasion with Nolan

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being like, OKI didn't realize
you were going to do that.

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Like I didn't think that was on
the table.

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So yeah, I'm just going to give
him a 7 1/2 here, Brad.

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Yeah, that's actually exactly
what I gave him as well.

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I I think that for me that last
point you made about like if it

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works for you, this is a 10 out
of 10.

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I think uniqueness is where that
like line of thought belongs.

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Because, like, when I think
about him as a unique director,

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I think that he's a 10 out of 10
unique director, Bob.

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Like his.
Like, think about Dunkirk.

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Have you ever seen a war movie
like Dunkirk?

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You know what I mean?
Like, like, is it the best war

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movie ever?
No.

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Is it a Great War movie?
Yeah.

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Is it like any other one you've
ever seen by a long shot?

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No.
And I think about The Prestige

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and I think about Memento, and
I'm like.

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Those are some of the most
unique movies that I've ever

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seen.
And so I I think I said earlier

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that, you know, maybe editing
would be his highest category.

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I think Nolan is one of the most
unique directors we've seen in

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the last 20 years.
And that's, you know, without

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even, we haven't even talked
about his commitment to, you

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know, real film and how he shies
away from CGI and like he like

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he just is committed to the art
and craft.

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Of movie making in a way that
that that alone makes him unique

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among his peers.
You know all the other directors

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who care about that are like 75
plus.

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So I I think he's a 10 out of 10
unique.

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I'm tempted to give him just an
8 1/2 here.

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I think I'm going to give him a
nine.

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And here's why I'm a little bit
lower than you, Brad.

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A lot of what makes Nolan unique
comes down to the way his his

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mind works, which is often
expressed in the way he writes

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movies.
And I think Nolan the writer has

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hit on some really interesting
concepts that not a lot of

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people have been given the
budget to explore.

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Nolan the director, when I think
about like, what's his visual

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style like?
What kind of camera moves does

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he like to employ?
What are some unique motifs?

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He's not necessarily the most
unique director.

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He's not the only one that's
ever explored these themes, and

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he doesn't necessarily shoot his
movies.

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In a in a unique way, the way
like a Scorsese has, he always

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has that weird, like God's eye
view in every single movie.

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Think about like the end of Taxi
Driver when it's like floating

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over, like no one doesn't have a
shot like that that he calls

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back to.
And that's not to say that I'm

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going to Ding him for that
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Like a Spielberg wonder type.
Of exactly.

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He He does remind me.
You know, I keep bringing this

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guy up.
He reminds me a lot of like a

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Ridley Scott that way, where
it's like every movie is really

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solid.
Every movie, like, does what

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it's supposed to do.
But I think what sets Nolan over

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the top is actually the writing
that he does to complement his

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direction.
The one thing that he does

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really, really well, whether the
movie ultimately works or not,

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is he's good at giving his
movies a sense of heft, like a

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real weightiness.
Every time a Nolan movie comes

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up on screen, you know that
opening shot of Dunkirk?

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Where they're like mid like
crouching, like they were just

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getting dive bombed and all
those papers are falling out of

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the air and you're immediately
thrust into the situation with

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this ticking clock Hans Zimmer
score.

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Only Nolan makes you feel like
you are watching a movie that

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the future of cinema rests on
every time you watch it.

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I always feel like the movies
are at stake every time I sit

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down to watch a Nolan movie and
so for that reason I feel like,

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well, go ahead, go ahead.
I was going to say also like his

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payoff.
Like I I feel like he sets you

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up for these epic hefty movies
and the payoff is almost always

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there.
Like even if you didn't love the

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movie, like like we said, the
last 20 minutes of Memento are

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an incredible payoff for the
somewhat of a slog you had to go

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through to get there.
So I I I think that's another

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point in his favor.
All right, man, I I am going to

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give him a nine here.
I'm coming out to a 43 1/2 out

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of 50.
Brad, what are you coming out

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to?
That nine made the difference.

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I am at a 44.5 out of 50.
All right.

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So we are averaging out to a 44
out of 50 or an 88 out of 100,

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which puts him pretty much in
line with most of the people

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we've examined this year.
I mean, Eastwood's a 41.

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Billy Wilder is a 43.
Bigelow was at a 40.5.

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Chaplains at a 43.75 and now
Nolan at 44 so like.

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Taking the cake.
He's taking the cake.

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But you know, I don't think
anyone's really running away

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with it the way that Spielberg
and Scorsese were last year.

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Yeah, no, they they were a very
clear winner among all the other

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directors that we've ever done.
So, alright, I'm excited to get

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into Kurosawa, man.
Yeah, me too, man.

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Let's take a pause here.
Let's try these two Lawrenceburg

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whiskeys.
What do you say?

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Let's get to it.
All right, so today we are

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checking out two whiskeys from
Lawrenceburg Bourbon Company.

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This is a cool little
distillery, Brad, that is

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founded by a guy who is a Navy
combat veteran who is also born

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and raised in Australia and now
finds himself living in

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Lawrenceburg, KY.
So if you hear Lawrenceburg, you

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might be thinking Lawrenceburg
IN this is actually based in

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Lawrenceburg, KY.
We're very excited to try both

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of their products today.
We've got a bourbon and a rye,

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both of them given to us at
barrel strength.

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Brad, which one do you think you
want to start with today?

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Let's go the classic tasting
route and go with the lower

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proofed option first, which I
believe is the bourbon.

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Yes, the lower proofed option
which is 117.1 proof.

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Is this four year sample of
bourbon that we've been given

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Now the mash bill on this four
year bourbon is 70% corn, 21%

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rye, 9% malted barley.
I believe this was distilled by

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Lawrenceburg Bourbon Company.
I don't have any notes to the

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contrary.
So Brad, let's go ahead and dive

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in.
What are you picking up on the

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nose of this bourbon?
Yeah, this one is a lot of

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really nice classic bourbon
notes.

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There's caramel.
It's a little bit grainy.

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There's a little bit of corn
coming through on the nose and

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then I I got kind of some nice
like sweet cream butterscotch,

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like really nice notes coming
through on the nose.

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I I like the nose a lot here,
Bob.

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Yeah, me too.
I'm with you, man.

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There's there's quite a bit of
oak on this for me, and I'm not

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getting, like, really dark,
sugary, bourbony notes yet.

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It's not that the whiskey smells
young.

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It's at the whiskey stool is
very bright, It almost has like

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a fruitiness to it.
And then I get the charred oak,

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but I'm not getting a lot of
like brown sugar or Maple or

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even vanilla notes on this.
It's an interesting nose, but

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I'm like cautiously optimistic,
if that makes sense.

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Yeah, yeah.
And when I got into the pallet,

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the caramel came through.
That corn stuck around.

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For me, the butterscotch was
like the dominant note.

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And there I I know it wasn't
there on the nose.

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For me, it got a little bit of
like a light Maple syrup on the

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flavor that it it was just
viscosy enough that that Maple

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came through.
Bob, I'm a big fan of this.

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I I think that the the palette
here delivers a little more of a

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hefty punch than what we got
from the nose.

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Yeah, I get quite a bit of
cherry on this and it almost

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manifests as like a.
Like a cherry and eucalyptus.

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It reminds me of like the halls
cough drops that I like to suck

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on when I'm like really really
sick and just need something

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like that.
It's not like a robitussin, but

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it has like a almost minty
effect, probably from the rye

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and like a really good medicinal
kind of cherry.

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It definitely packs a punch,
Brad, but it doesn't drink like

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it's 117 proof.
Like if you told me this was 100

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proof, 105 proof, I'd probably
believe you.

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It's really nice and prickly
that alcohol is present.

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But it's not overpowering
anything.

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This is a really good whiskey.
Yeah, yeah.

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I think it's really impressive.
It's a solid bourbon expression

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that for me it just has a hint
of youth with those corn notes,

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but not enough to to make it you
know, lesser in any of my

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estimation.
I think it's a really creamy

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sweet bourbon that has a little
bit of spiciness to it.

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Bob, I this is like really
impressive.

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If I was like scoring it out of
50, I'd probably end up in like.

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The 3839 out of 50 range.
Brad, I I'm excited to dive into

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this 10 by 10 rye and they call
it the 10 by 10 rye because it

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is 10 years old and made from 10
barrels of 10 year old rye.

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Now looking at their website, it
looks like this was actually

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distilled in Canada.
So we're drinking a Canadian rye

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right now, unless I'm reading
A/B wrong, but I believe A/B

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stands for Alberta, right?
As far as I know.

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Or Alabama Cool.
That's not Alabama.

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Alabama's AL.
No, it is.

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What's.
A.

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There's no A/B in the United
States.

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Alberta it is.
Alberta.

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All right, so we're drinking 10
year old Canadian Rye.

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This is 122.5 proof.
Brad, what are you picking up on

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the nose of this one?
Man, I I I'm not picking up much

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of anything, Bob.
Like I I know that it might

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sound weird, but.
Earlier when I drank this, I I

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had drank it after I had the
bourbon and I was like, man, I'm

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not getting much on the nose.
Maybe I got, you know, my nose

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got a little messed up from the
bourbon, who knows?

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And then tonight I've been
drinking it again, you know,

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8-10 hours later and the nose
just isn't really there that

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like there's some rye notes,
there's a little bit of honey

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that comes through.
It's kind of floral, but I I'm

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not.
I don't know about what's your

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experience with it because I was
struggling on the.

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Net, I'm with you, man.
Like, when I really dig my nose

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in here, it gets overpowered by
ethanol because it's 122 proof.

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But I'm not getting any real
notes coming off of it.

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There is the the slightest
little note of, like, gunpowder,

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Like it almost.
You know, it was just the 4th of

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July here, so I'm not talking
about that really, like sulfuric

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smell after fireworks.
But, you know, I took the boys

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out in the driveway.
We were playing with those

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little, like, popper things that
you throw on the ground.

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And it reminds me a little bit
of like okay, there's like some

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burnt, you know, like spent
gunpowder here.

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That's literally like all I'm
getting is a little bit of smoke

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and ethanol, which I'm I'm just
surprised because it's a 10 year

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old rye and it's 100% rye.
It's not blended with any other

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grains.
Dude, that's what I'm saying.

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I like, I mean, at this point
it's standing out because of its

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uniqueness, but we've been doing
this for 4-5 years now and I'm

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like, I don't know if I've ever
had a whiskey where I just.

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Didn't really have a note on the
nose.

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I just took my first sip of it.
Brad, I know you've tried these

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already.
I'm trying them live.

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It's really earthy, like, really
earthy and herbal.

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And then I get this like very
distinct, burnt, like char

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flavor to it.
And I'm like, listen, I would

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never eat one of those poppers
that I threw out my driveway on

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the 4th of July, but like.
I like my note of flex spent

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gunpowder is actually coming
through a little bit here.

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I I really like how I don't know
how to phrase it like it's going

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to sound like an insult.
It's it's almost like a

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nondescript palette that's just
like straight rye grain and then

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like char.
And I kind of, I kind of dig it,

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man.
Yeah, no, it's super oaky.

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The rye comes through.
The little bit of sweetness I

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get reminds me of like a a a
malted Scotch like honey kind of

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coming through.
But like, I don't know what to

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do with this rye, but I actually
like it.

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Like, I like the flavor.
I like how it tastes.

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I just.
I don't know exactly how to

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describe it Bob.
It is more effable.

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One of the more unique rise
we've ever had in this podcast.

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Like I will say that bar none.
Yeah, easily one of the more

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unique rise that we've ever had.
And I like, like I said, if I

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was scoring this, I don't
honestly know how to score it.

456
00:25:45,610 --> 00:25:48,330
I I'd probably end up in the
upper 30s.

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00:25:48,370 --> 00:25:49,210
I think I would.
Too.

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I like it.
I just don't think that I could

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like if you asked me to, give it
a list of professional tasting

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00:25:55,730 --> 00:25:59,140
notes on this.
There's not a lot going on.

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00:25:59,260 --> 00:26:03,100
It's just kind of like I just.
Just kind of good.

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I just want to write down, like
generically manly.

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Like it is a manly whiskey.
And I think that's kind of where

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I'm falling on this one.
Your mustache is just like

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growing handlebars.
As you do 100% all right, well,

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we want to say thank you to
Lawrenceburg for both of these

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whiskeys.
These are darn good whiskeys,

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and I'm excited to see what
continues to come out of

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Lawrenceburg in the coming
years.

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We'll be back on Tuesday with
another regularly scheduled

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episode, but until then, I'm Bob
Book.

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I'm Reggie.
And we'll see you next time.