Parasite / Eagle Rare 17 Year Bourbon

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In 2019, director Bong Joon Ho
and star Song Kang Ho gave the

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world a beautifully dark
inspection into the class

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warfare going on in Korea.
In 2024, we come out of the

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basement to finish out a flight
of five BTAC samples.

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The film is.
Parasite the whiskey is Eagle

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rare. 17 and we'll review them
both.

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This is the Film and Whiskey
podcast.

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Welcome to the Film and Whiskey
podcast, where each week we

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review a classic movie and a
glass of whiskey.

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I'm Bob Book.
I'm Brad G.

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And this week we are jumping
back into things.

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Brad, we took a couple weeks off
from recording Shaken off the

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rust a bit as we revisit for its
fifth year anniversary, the 2019

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Academy Award-winning film
Parasite.

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Dude I feel like 2019 was just a
great year for cinema and it

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like stands out in my brain
'cause obviously the pandemic

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happens the next year and we
basically lose 2 years of movies

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in 2020 and 2021 and yet I still
feel like the 2019 year of

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movies was like 2 years ago.
Oh, absolutely.

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Like, even saying that it was
five years ago is like, OK,

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yeah.
Come on, that, that, that can't

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be real.
And yet, in some ways, it does

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feel like five years.
You know, we recently did a

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review of Avengers End Game, and
it's the fifth year anniversary

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of that film as well.
And I feel like now that the

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world has cooled on superhero
movies slightly, I definitely

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feel more distance from a movie
like End Game than I do from a

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movie like Parasite.
Parasite feels like it just came

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out, and End Game feels very
much of A time that we have

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since moved on from.
Does that?

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I don't know.
Does that make sense?

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Yes, 100%.
Like the ideas of different

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classes struggling with one
another, struggling to

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understand each other's,
struggling to communicate

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totally is going to make sense
in 2024.

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And like, sadly, but honestly,
it's probably going to make

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sense in 203444.
Like it's it's taps into

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something that hits on the human
experience, whereas superheroes

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are literally not the human
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And that folks, is the hard
hitting analysis that you come

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to us for.
So if this is your first time

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joining us, welcome to Film and
Whiskey.

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We watch movies and we drink
whiskey.

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It's a pretty self-explanatory
podcast.

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This season, what we're doing is
we're looking at films from the

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last 20 years and we're asking
the question, does this film

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deserve to be considered a
modern classic?

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Now, how did we settle on the
film as we're reviewing this

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season?
They have to be part of IMDb or

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Letterbox's top 250.
They have to have grossed $100

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million in the US or been
nominated for Best Picture.

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I am pretty sure Parasite did
all of them except gross 100 mil

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and that's pretty darn
impressive, Brad.

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I mean, who knows why this
didn't gross 100 mil in the US,

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Bob.
I know famously, Brad.

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If there's anything Americans
are known for, it is their

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receptivity to other cultures
and languages, willingness to

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engage in art from beyond our
own boundaries.

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I mean, just the fact that we,
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knows 3.27 languages.
So yeah, it makes it.

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It's flabbergasting to me that
this didn't make 100 million.

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OK, let's kind of start there
even before we get into anything

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else.
So this is one of the few films

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we've done on the show that is a
foreign language film.

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We had a run there for a little
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from that, there's only been a
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And so we're jumping into, I
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examples of an International
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in the US.
This was the first film ever in

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a, in a non-english language to
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And I guess Brad, what I what
I'd like to ask you is when you

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think about this movie winning
best picture, obviously through

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award season, people like latch
onto certain narratives and

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movies that seemed to have no
shot at the beginning.

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They just become kind of like a
heart warming story.

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And so people start voting for
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I'm thinking about go ahead.
Just like the storyline of

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Parasite.
Well, I'm thinking about, you

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know, every, Everything
Everywhere All at Once really

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captured people's hearts a
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to that, that little movie Coda
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there.
When you think about this movie

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winning Oscars, why do you think
it captured the hearts of Oscar

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voters?
Does does it have anything to do

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with the Academy make up kind of
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last decade?
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diverse body of voters now?
Like, why do you think this

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became the first foreign
language film to win Best

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Picture?
I mean, I, I think it's a

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combination of things.
I'm curious, when does voting

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for like I know that there's
voting for who will be a nominee

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and then eventually there's
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Like when does the voting
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Does it happen before the awards
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other awards kind of influence
what happens at the Academy?

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Both And so there's like a a
document that the Academy puts

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out at the end of every year
that is just a list of every

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film that's eligible for awards.
So you have like your pool of

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400 movies or whatever.
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especially if they're like
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have a short list like hey, the
Guild put forth these 15 movies

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and that's your pool to choose
the nominees from.

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Now it doesn't work like.
That what would be like a Guild

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like that would do that I.
Think like original score or

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cinematography.
Don't quote me on those, but

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like that, that level of award
is kind of what you would see

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there.
It's it doesn't work that way

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with best picture, but voting
happens for the nominations in

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early January.
So you want to kind of get your

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foot in the door and then once
you lock in that best picture

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nomination, it's like off to the
races and then awards you, you

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pick up along the way.
Absolutely fuel that campaign.

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OK, yeah.
So I would say a parasite

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probably benefited from a lot of
that as it became more well seen

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by the Oscar body.
I would imagine that helped.

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Honestly, Bob, I think the
reason this became the first

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foreign language film to win
Best Picture is because it feels

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absolutely accessible to an
American audience.

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Like there, there's moments
throughout this film, you know,

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this was my second time watching
it where I found myself

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recognizing like, they're saying
something here that isn't

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totally translating through the
subtitles.

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And I'm curious what the deeper
meaning is, right?

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Like, like there's moments
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film where that will be true,
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far between.
And there was so much of this

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movie that felt familiar to an
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From the cinematography to the
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of the movie.
The musical choices did not feel

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in any way strange.
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It's a lot of classical music.
I just think that the way this

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movie was made, especially being
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something like Snowpiercer,
which is an American film,

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right, I think he just knew the
right buttons to push to hit the

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Korean audiences as well as the
American audience. 100% couldn't

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have said it better myself, and
I think on that note, it's time

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for us to get into our first
segment of the day, which we

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call Brad explains.
Brad's going to give us the

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movie plots with only 60 seconds
taken on the clock, so let's go

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ahead and hear your take with
this little segment that we

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call, Brad explains.
Brad Explains is the part of the

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show where Brad breaks down the
plot of the film that he has

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just seen, often for the first
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Brad, this is at least your
second time seeing Parasite

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because I know that you went out
and bought it on a Criterion

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Barnes and Noble sale after
seeing it the first time, right?

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I sure did.
So is this watch #2 or this more

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than that?
This is watch #2 I hadn't

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watched it after buying it,
partially because I knew that we

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would get to it eventually on
the podcast.

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So yeah, I just, I waited and I
am glad that I did because this

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is a great movie, Bob.
Brad, I'm excited to dive into

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this one.
I have a feeling that you and I

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are going to diverge on a couple
things today, but I also want

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you to help me parse out why I
feel the way I do.

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So before we get into all that,
it's time for you to spoil this

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movie, folks.
If you have not seen Parasite

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Man, even Brad telling you what
happens in the movie does not do

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justice.
You got to just go watch it,

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experience whatever the hell
this is, and then come back and

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listen to the rest of the
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Brad, you have 60 seconds on the
clock and go.

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Parasite is a film about a poor
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I believe their last name is
Kim.

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They are trying to figure out
how to survive in a very

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stratified world of Korea when
one of the son's friends from

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college comes into back into his
life and tells him that he's

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studying abroad and that he
would like for him to take over

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as a tutor for a high school
student of a wealthy family

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known as the Park family.
Once he becomes the tutor, the

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Kim family slowly takes over all
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driver, tutor to the son in the
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And they discover lots of
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And it gets crazy, Bob.
It gets very crazy.

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I don't know if I want to say
any more than that.

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It gets pretty freaking wild.
It does get wild.

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We will obviously, just in
talking about the film, spoil

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everything that happens, but
there are some very specific

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turns that this movie takes.
And I think that's kind of where

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I want to frame our conversation
today, Brad, because I went to

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see this movie in the theater
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How many people were in the
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It was.
Packed.

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It was like full Brad, really,
because they were only showing

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it at the Cedar Lee in
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OK, so all the Cleveland
Northeast Ohio cinephiles were?

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There it was packed bro and I
watched it a couple months

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before my wife had our second
son and so she was very pregnant

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and I don't know.
And you abandoned.

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Her I I yes, so I'm already
feeling guilty about going to

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this movie, but I knew that it
was, you know, she's like, just

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take the night, go watch this
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And I don't know if I was just
feeling really on edge because

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the movie was so suspenseful,
But I started to get this

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creeping feeling.
This has never happened to me in

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a movie before.
And I was thinking about

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becoming a father for the second
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And as this movie crept on, I
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sense of like, I know Bong Joon
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I know that his movies can be
very up, and I'm really worried

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that something's going to happen
to the small children in this

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movie, and I don't feel like I
can partake in that.

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And it has never happened to me
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Literally, I walked out of the
theater with 15 minutes left in

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the movie, not realizing what
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But I couldn't take the risk at
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I was so like, I felt so
conflicted in my soul about

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like, I think this is going to
go down a path of I'm going to

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see something I can't Unsee and
I don't feel like I can be here

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right now and.
Brad, I thought little little

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Dasong was going.
To.

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I thought he was.
Yeah, in like a really grizzly

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way.
And I was really worried about

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that.
And so of course I missed the

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end of the movie.
I And then I'm like, oh, I got

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to know what happens now.
So I read what happens at the

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end of the movie.
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out to a point where I can watch
it on video or what, however I

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watched it, I watched the whole
thing again, but the ending was

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already ruined for me.
So this is one of those movies

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kind of like $1,000,000 baby.
I think I told the story about

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how that was spoiled for me that
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Brad, if I can ever fairly
evaluate this movie because it

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worked incredibly well for me,
and then I messed up the way the

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movie ended in a way that I can
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Well, listen, I thought you'd be
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this is the kind of thing where
you, you know, multiple times on

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the show you've been like, this
didn't sit well in my soul.

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And this is the only time in my
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experience during a movie.
Yeah, I mean the Bob, I'll tell

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you this.
There's grace for that too.

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No matter what.
Cinephile.

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What would it be?
Cinephotic sins you commit.

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We'll we'll forgive you, man.
We'll take you back.

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I as a as a fellow cinephile
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judgement over your soul.
How that works?

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I think so the based on what you
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would assume that it's so.
So I say all that though to say,

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even returning to it now, I feel
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three sections for me.
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necessarily like what the plot
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script, but it's kind of like
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Everything that happens after
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wall because the movie gets very
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And in my theater, that thud was
like, you could feel that thud

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in your seat and everyone in the
theater at one time when like.

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How was everybody when you said
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I my immediate thought was this
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watch in a pack theater.
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of like the last 10 minutes of
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So like everything I missed
because I do feel like they take

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really interesting tonal turns
and stuff happens in that last

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little section of the movie,
like a narration that doesn't

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happen at any other part of the
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So as we kind of progressed
today, if you wouldn't mind,

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let's kind of just take it like
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think that's that's the best way
I can explain the movie.

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Yeah, I think that's totally
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I the, I would call the, the
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the, it almost feels like a
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Like where like they like, they
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going to go on the heist and who
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And, and this is like the vulgar
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mom holds them all together and,
and the, the son is this young,

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like he's, he's going to make
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He's going to get to university
eventually and and and and then

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you watch them commit the heist
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fired from the household.
I like where were where are you

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at on that opening 60 minutes of
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I'd.
Say, I mean, it's perfect, Brad.

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It's a perfect movie.
And I think that's the thing

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that that struck me this time
around is how funny this movie

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is.
It is so funny and it's funny in

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such a like a sharp, razor edged
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It like the way that they employ
the classical music in an ironic

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way is really, really funny.
You know, the famous sequence of

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them putting the Peach fuzz on
the housekeeper and then it

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ending with him squirting like
the Sriracha sauce or whatever

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it is and then holding it up and
her face be like, oh, it's it's

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it's perfection, dude.
Dude, the use of slow motion in

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those.
Oh, it's like.

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The editing of this movie is so
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It's so good, man.
Biting is such a good word.

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And I, I kept thinking of like
if I was writing my review of

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the movie, what, what is this
kind of comedy and how do I

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describe it?
And it's like when you read an,

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a review of a movie that calls
something like devilish or like

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deliciously this or that.
Anytime they use delicious like

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this, that I feel like that's
this movie where it's kind of, I

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don't want to say bitchy.
It's not a bitchy movie, but

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it's like it, it's just mean in
a fun way.

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And I think that's what that
first 2/3 of this movie does so,

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so well.
Here's the thing about this

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film, Bob I the only character
in this movie that I like don't

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like is the mom, like she's the
only one that I just like.

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There's moments where I kind of
like her, but overall she's the

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worst.
Every single other character in

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this movie, like they all do
horrific things, terrible

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things, especially the dad, like
the the way he carries himself,

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like he's just a lazy schlub who
murders a guy at the end of the

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movie.
And yet I find myself I just

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really like all of these
characters.

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I like, I like the Park family,
I like the Kim family.

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And I don't know how he did that
as a director.

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I like, I don't know how Bong
Joon Ho did that because.

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I you.
Shouldn't like any of them.

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And yet, despite all of the
meanness, despite the mean gaze

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that the camera is towards all
of these characters, I still

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like them all.
Yeah, I love that you're you're

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talking about the mean gaze,
'cause it doesn't feel

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judgmental as much as it feels
like.

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It's trying to catch them all at
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Bitingly observational like it.
It is just like an impartial

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observer on the worst of human
tendencies.

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And you are rooting for the Kim
family for so much of this movie

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because, like, they are the
conduit for the audience.

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Like they're trying to break
into this world.

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And you think it's funny as they
do it and as they deceive these

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dumb rich people.
And as the movie goes on, like,

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it takes so many twists and
turns that you start saying,

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like, actually, they're the
worst people in the world.

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And then something happens where
you're like, no, the parks are

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the worst people in the world.
Like, how could you behave like

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that?
That's absolutely atrocious.

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And then, you know, we find a
random third family and it's

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like, I don't even know what to
think of these people.

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But I'm really glad that you
liked that first 2/3.

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And to your point, I think it's
a combination of Bong Joon Ho

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being an incredible director
because you have to maintain a

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very specific tone to make this
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And he's able to get that tone
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But then it's also a combination
of that and how well constructed

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this script is.
Like everything has a payoff.

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Everything works like clockwork.
I saw this movie compared to

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Hitchcock a lot.
And I actually think I'll, I'll

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get into this later.
I think there's another

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filmmaker that this is more
like, but it is Hitchcockian in

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that it, A, makes you root for
terrible people and become

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complicit in the narrative, but
B, everything fits together with

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so much kind of like wicked
clockwork precision that it does

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remind you of Hitchcock in that
way.

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Yeah, the, there's, there's
something about this film where

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you feel like an outsider
getting sucked into the drama of

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a family trying to make it in
the world.

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And you can't quite decide if
you want to be like their

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college friend who kind of sets
them on this adventure and,

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like, seems to treat them like
this, like nice little family

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that he's fond of.
Or if you want to look at them

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like the old housemaid, once she
figures out who they are, the

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way she treats them is freaking
brutal.

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And like, as the audience, you
kind of vacillate between those

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two extreme positions throughout
the whole film.

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All right, let's dive into the
second part of the movie and

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then I think it'll be time for
us to kind of take a break.

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So the second part of the movie
happens when the Kim family is

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all just hanging out at this big
mansion because the parks are

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out of town.
And it starts with a a time

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crunch scenario where the parks
call and say we're going to be

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home in 8 minutes.
And you get this incredible

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cooking sequence of the mom
making this dish called Ramdan.

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And then it ends with them
basically discovering that the

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former housekeeper has been
keeping her husband in the in

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the secret basement of this
house, and they've been

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essentially living there for
free, mooching off of the parks

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for years and years.
And that when this housekeeper

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was fired, like her husband's
been down there by himself for

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weeks.
It is this incredibly weird,

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absurd and then very creepy
discovery as these two families

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then basically get into hand to
hand combat to to keep their own

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secrets from being spilled to
the Park family.

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It's it's such an incredible
addition to the movie because by

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putting this family in here, you
realize how much more terrible

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and evil the Kims are.
Like the way in which the, we'll

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just call it the old
housekeepers family, the way in

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which she and her husband mooch
off of them is so much better

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and more ethical because like
she flat out accuses her like

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you're stealing food from them
and she goes no, no, no, no.

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Like the salary they pay me, I
use that money to buy the food

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for my husband and I.
Like, like we're just trying to

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escape some loan sharks and, and
like they have the most

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reasonable way of mooching off
the family.

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Like like I it's such an
incredible addition in my mind

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to put them in there, but then
also use the husband that's been

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living in the basement for, I
think they say like four years

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for him to be the ghost that the
child of the Park family does.

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Song, song.
Bro it is.

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It is simultaneously the
scariest thing I've ever seen

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and also really hilarious.
It's so funny when you see his

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head pop up as this kid's eating
cake.

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It's.
Incredible.

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And then they like replay that
when he comes out covered in

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blood and cake, and he like
stares into the small child's

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soul.
Oh man.

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So this sequence basically ends
with they've discovered this

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family in the basement, the
parks are coming home, they're

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having to make food and subdue
this other family.

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So they're tying them up in the
basement.

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And somehow the old housekeeper
escapes, starts to run up the

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stairs.
And then the mom kicks her back

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down the stairs.
And as she tumbles down the

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stairs, she hits her head on
like the cement wall and lands

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quite the thud.
Did you think she was dead the

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first time that happened?
100%, OK.

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Thank you every.
Time someone gets hit in the

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head in this movie, it is a 100%
fatality, OK?

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'Cause the same thing happens.
What?

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What's the the son's name?
Who's the tutor for the the high

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school girl?
Kiwu.

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Kiwu He.
Gets.

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Freaking knocked in the head
twice.

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And there's no way, no, there's
no way he survives that.

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I'm just, there's no way he's
alive.

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So Eddie, we'll get to that.
So this sequence then takes a

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really dramatic turn.
And this is where the movie

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takes a turn.
Like it is still very vicious in

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its observation of all the
characters.

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But then the stakes have
immediately jumped from just are

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these people going to be
discovered to did I just

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witnessed them commit a murder
and having to cover that up now?

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And it turns into an incredibly
suspenseful film in that second

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segment.
And I think that I personally,

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being the guy who likes rooting
for people, the first section of

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the movie is more thoroughly
enjoyable.

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The second section of the movie
is no less well directed,

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though, because I was, you know,
to the fact that I walked out of

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the movie.
I was so on the edge of my seat

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and so enraptured by where this
might go that it had me it kind

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of in its clutches at that
point.

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Yeah, the the people in this
movie, The the characters are so

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well developed that you can't
help be sucked into the world

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that is being developed.
I I mean, even thinking about

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the wealthy socialite mom that
like everybody basically says

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she is a simpleton who is
beautiful and that's the only

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reason she's around, right?
Like even she the way that they

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present her up until the party,
they kind of they kind of make

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her a little worse at the end of
the film.

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But the way they present her,
she's almost like this cute

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little like baby dove that you
just want to like care for and

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and you never want to see harmed
in any way.

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And every time she gets upset,
you find yourself just like, oh,

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no, it like it's OK, like we're
we're going to help you out,

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honey.
Like it.

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It feels like Oh honey, from How
I Met Your Mother.

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Let's talk about the parks a
little bit.

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So we've talked about the Kims
in, first of all, top to bottom,

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incredible acting in both
families.

448
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,120
I mean, just really well done.
The Park family is so

449
00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:40,040
interesting because you you
don't learn a lot about them

450
00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:41,320
even throughout the course of
the movie.

451
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,520
You don't learn a lot about them
other than they're just like

452
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,480
rich and kind of detached from
the social hierarchy of the

453
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,240
world.
And it's not until that really

454
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,400
final section that they kind of
do despicable things and

455
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,560
inadvertently do them because
they are just detached and rich.

456
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,760
But it's in that second section
that I found the most

457
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:05,280
interesting things happening.
And in order to get Jessica, the

458
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,640
daughter, to take over the role
of tutor, art tutor, she

459
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,880
basically planted her own
panties in the car of the driver

460
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,560
so so that they would be found,
the driver would be fired and

461
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,440
her dad could be hired as the
new driver.

462
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,160
And you find out in the middle
of the movie that these rich

463
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,760
people have kept this pair of
panties like as evidence.

464
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,320
But then when they're like by
themselves and they're sexually

465
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,120
fantasizing to get themselves
aroused, what they're

466
00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:37,120
fantasizing about is basically
being poor people.

467
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,040
And that expresses itself for
Mr. Park by saying, like, you

468
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,400
should put on these cheap
panties.

469
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,960
It'd be so hot.
Like he wants to use his wife

470
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,600
the way that he would use
somebody from the lower classes.

471
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,240
And then she fantasizes about
like, go buy me drugs.

472
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,120
Like even their their
caricatures of what poor people

473
00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:57,920
are like are so funny in that
moment.

474
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,440
But I think it really does kind
of lock into focus what the

475
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,400
movie is really about.
And it doesn't hurt that at the

476
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,520
same time, in the context of the
movie, the Park family, I'm

477
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,040
sorry, the Kim family is
literally hiding under their

478
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,920
dining room table having to
listen to this entire exchange.

479
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,840
And I, I just, I mean, it's such
a brilliant set up on paper, but

480
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,080
when you see it executed, it's
even more just like, oh, wow,

481
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,800
they like the economics of this
scene.

482
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,000
They put everything out there in
a way that has everybody in the

483
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,200
same room as each other.
And they got it out in as little

484
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:38,080
words as possible.
It's that moment where people

485
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,320
from different classes wonder
what someone says about them

486
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:47,560
when they leave the room and
they they Bong Joon Ho just

487
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:52,560
illustrates so perfectly the
disgust that the classes have

488
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:57,560
for one another, like the the
way in which the Kim family is

489
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,680
talking about the Park family
when they're like gorging on

490
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,720
their food.
It's, it's just incredible.

491
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,160
And I, I think that's what I
love about this movie is that it

492
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:13,480
cuts deeply against the poor and
the wealthy alike that like

493
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:18,080
there's there's no mercy for
anyone in the way that they

494
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,240
treat the other class.
And I, I think that for me is

495
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:26,520
actually my favorite part of the
film because it, I don't know,

496
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:31,640
man, in our day and age, it's so
easy to buy into the rich people

497
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,000
bad, poor people, good scheme or
you know what I mean?

498
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:41,040
And to have a movie basically
say, hey, like, yes, these rich

499
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:46,360
people have done bad things.
They have a extremely unreal and

500
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,600
negative view towards poor
people.

501
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,960
And they're mostly focused on
how bad they smell and like,

502
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,640
like, it's, it's really
unhealthy.

503
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,480
But these poor people, there's
no excusing their behavior

504
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,040
either.
Who's the worst poor person?

505
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:07,640
Anyone in the Kim family or
Margo Martindale in $1,000,000

506
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:13,200
baby.
And see dude, I think that's

507
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,080
another reason why this movie
works.

508
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:22,080
I don't know if Bong Joon Ho is
like, I don't know if Parasite

509
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,840
is the $1,000,000 baby
representation of poor people in

510
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,840
Korea the way I know it is in
$1,000,000 baby.

511
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,280
Does that make sense?
Well, and, and I think that that

512
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,680
gets to the point of why the
movie is even called Parasite.

513
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,000
It's pretty famously documented
that Bong Joon Ho had to

514
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,200
convince like the marketing team
to stick with the name Parasite

515
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,800
because they were really
concerned that, you know, when

516
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,440
we're cutting a trailer for this
movie, we're showing it from the

517
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,840
point of view of the poor
people.

518
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,000
And so they're going to think
that you're calling them

519
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,200
Parasite.
And he basically said, like,

520
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,200
well, then when they see the
movie, they'll understand

521
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,840
because when you look at it the
other way, who is the parasite

522
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,800
in the movie?
Who is leeching more off of the

523
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,920
other class?
And I think that, like, it's

524
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,440
just such a simple and brilliant
title for this movie because

525
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,200
there are so many ways to
interpret it, and it is so

526
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,120
ambiguous at the end of it.
Before we move to Break Brad, I

527
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,400
want to keep talking about this
little section that we've been

528
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,320
talking about, where they're
hiding under the table and

529
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,720
listening to the words that the
rich people are saying about

530
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,600
them.
Because it's one of the few

531
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:30,400
times in the movie, too, where
there is a complete drop of the

532
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,720
irony and the sarcasm and the
winking and the biting humor.

533
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,520
And it's the first time that
Mister Park talks about the way

534
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,840
that Mister Kim smells.
It's not the first time it's

535
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,800
mentioned in the movie because
the little kid mentions it at

536
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,040
one point too.
But he talks about how

537
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,200
overwhelming the smell is and
how poor people smell like that.

538
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,160
And everyone that rides the
subway smells like that.

539
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,640
And it's really the first time
that you hear them talk in

540
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,840
really dismissive tones about
poor people.

541
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:04,320
And it's this really kind of
gentle piano music as he you

542
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,520
watch him under the table, like
sniff himself.

543
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,840
And I just found that to be
really touching, honestly.

544
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,720
Like, I I really appreciated
that Bong Joon Ho didn't try to

545
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,240
do something snarky in that
moment because you needed to

546
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,440
understand how deeply that cut
Mr. Kim.

547
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,320
Because it really sets the
trajectory for the end of the

548
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,640
movie.
That, that specific action of

549
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,280
rich people thinking poor people
smell is what gets us to the end

550
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,560
of the movie.
Yeah, I mean it.

551
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,120
It cuts to the core of the human
experience.

552
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:42,520
Like whether we know it or not,
Like smell is the most powerful

553
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:51,440
and evocative of our senses and
to be told that your smell is

554
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,920
overpowering is overwhelming and
that it crosses the line.

555
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,640
Like, I love the way he talks
about how there is social

556
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,640
etiquette between the classes
and how he thinks it ought to be

557
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,960
preserved and there's a line and
we ought not cross it.

558
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,880
But there's something about the
poor that they can't help but

559
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:19,640
cross the line, like their very
essence, their smell crosses the

560
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,160
line and they can't do anything
about it like that.

561
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,840
That is such a brutal thing to
say.

562
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,560
Like there, there's so much
going on here pointing out how

563
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:36,600
humans left to their own devices
will inherently stratify the

564
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,840
world, will create boundaries
and lines that ought not be

565
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,960
crossed.
And we as humans ought to say, F

566
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,040
the lines.
You're a human being.

567
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,920
I ought to love you and care for
you and help you better your

568
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:55,640
life, no matter how you smell.
Specifically, no matter how you

569
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,720
smell.
Yeah, I mean it.

570
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,120
It's just a reality, Bob.
The smells are real.

571
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,120
They they.
Really are, man.

572
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,880
Well, you know, now that you've
now that you've kind of cast

573
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,520
this vision for what humanity
can be like and how we shouldn't

574
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,120
stratify ourselves, let's go
drink some whiskey that cost

575
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:19,400
$1700.
What?

576
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,280
What do you say, man?
Let's dive back into B.Tech as

577
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,960
as all of the common folk do.
I'm going to go find a poor

578
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,880
person and spit the B tack on
them.

579
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,679
How about that, Bob?
Let's get to it, Brad.

580
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:43,239
All right, so today we are
checking out Eagle Rare 17 year.

581
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:47,080
We're finally finishing our
flight of B Tack bourbons from

582
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,400
2023.
For the past four weeks, we've

583
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,440
been looking at these and then
if you jump back a year in time,

584
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,239
you can find our review of
Thomas H Handy Sazerac Rye.

585
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,280
Brad, we've had quite the
history with Eagle Rare and I

586
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,720
think it's at least somewhat
appropriate that we saved this

587
00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:07,280
one for last.
Yeah, I'm so excited to drink

588
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,200
this today, Bob.
This has long been like ever

589
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,400
since I started drinking
Whiskey.

590
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,000
Eagle Rare was maybe like the
4th or 5th whiskey I ever had.

591
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,320
I absolutely loved it.
There was like 30 bottles on the

592
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,040
shelf.
They're all $30.

593
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,680
I was like, wow, how could life
get any better?

594
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,440
And I, I remember looking it up
on Buffalo Trace's website and

595
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:36,280
all I saw I had zero knowledge
of the world of B Tack or you

596
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,720
know, I like at that point I
knew who Buffalo Trace and

597
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:42,240
Woodford Reserve and Wild
Turkey.

598
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:45,600
And that's like all I knew.
And I saw on Buffalo Trace's

599
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:50,840
website that they had a 17 year
version of the regular Eagle

600
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,920
rear.
And I said to myself, wow, I'd

601
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,960
love to drink that someday.
A few years later I realized

602
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,240
that was a pipe dream, my
friend.

603
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,200
Well, and not only is the 17
year a pipe dream, but there is

604
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,720
at least one above this in the
vertical.

605
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:11,520
Now they have one called the
Double Eagle, very rare, which

606
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,840
comes in its own fancy box and
costs I believe like $10,000.

607
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,560
So yeah, so we think that we're
we've reached the pinnacle.

608
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,920
And then Buffalo Trace says
absolutely not.

609
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,600
We need more money out of you.
We're coming out with a hyper

610
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,200
limited edition version of this.
Yeah, they need to keep Bob and

611
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,720
Brad in their place, is what
they're.

612
00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:33,760
Doing exactly so The funny thing
about this release, the 2023

613
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:38,600
Eagle Rare 17 is that Eagle Rare
17 is the actual name of the

614
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,080
product.
So it's not just like an age

615
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:46,280
stated Eagle Rare.
It's it's called legally Eagle

616
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,520
Rare 17 year, but they keep
releasing older than 17 year

617
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,680
versions of this.
So they're kind of just treating

618
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,800
it like a minimum age statement.
This is actually a 19 year old

619
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,240
bourbon, Brad, 19 years and
three months old at the time of

620
00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:03,600
bottling.
So it was distilled in spring of

621
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,080
2004.
I was in 8th grade.

622
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,320
Wow, yeah, that that's like wild
to think about.

623
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,800
Yeah, 100% dude.
All right, man, Let's dive into

624
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,600
this.
So Eagle Rare 17 year, The mash

625
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,120
bill on Eagle Rare has always
been undisclosed.

626
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,720
We've talked about Eagle Rare a
couple times on the podcast.

627
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:25,280
This is the same product that is
just older.

628
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,840
Brad, let's let's do it, man.
What are you picking up on the

629
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,600
nose?
This has some beautiful

630
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:36,120
complexity on the nose, mostly
hovering in the like rich

631
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,640
sweetness categories.
I got some buttercream.

632
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,760
There's brown sugar, caramel,
vanilla.

633
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,800
It's got like a really nice
bubble gum thing going on.

634
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,240
And then like the longer I sat
with it, the more I got really

635
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:52,160
beautiful, like maraschino
cherries.

636
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:57,760
I, I was a huge fan of this nose
It it's got all sorts of

637
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,240
richness.
There's a little bit of the

638
00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:02,360
oakiness, a little bit of pepper
coming through.

639
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,880
For me, this is a 9 1/2 out of
10 nose.

640
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,720
I'm.
Going to give it a nine out of

641
00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:09,800
10.
I agree with every single one of

642
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,040
your tasting notes.
I think the only thing is that

643
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,080
it's impossible to divorce.
Like my knowledge of how

644
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,880
expensive this is and how
difficult it is to obtain from

645
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,400
the actual tasting experience.
I'm trying my best, but like as

646
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,760
I knows it, I'm like, is this a
$1500 whiskey or is this just a

647
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,680
really good classic bourbon?
And I think it's kind of just

648
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,600
that, you know what I mean?
Like it is, it is Bob Books

649
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,200
Platonic ideal of what bourbon
should smell like, but it

650
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,160
doesn't smell like a mortgage
payment.

651
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,760
Do you know what I'm saying?
Like, I don't know.

652
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,640
Man, I I might, I might
foreclose on my house for this.

653
00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:49,440
Oh, all right.
Well, you, you do you, man.

654
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,680
I like, I like being housed.
So it's just going to be a nine

655
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,440
out of 10 for me.
And then we're getting around to

656
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,720
the taste here, Brad.
I'm actually tasting it live.

657
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,320
You've already tried it.
So while I give it a sip, why

658
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:06,920
don't you give us your notes?
This is a cacophony of beauty

659
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,200
and wonder.
There's bubble gum really

660
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,000
prominently for me.
It has really nice almond

661
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,920
flavors.
The vanilla is like a really

662
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,760
fresh vanilla bean.
It's oaky.

663
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,800
It's caramel Y it almost turns
into like a caramel fudge combo

664
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,200
that I really like.
And the longer I sit with it,

665
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,200
the longer I the 2nd and 3rd
sips I really got like a nice

666
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,640
sweet mint flavor that I'm
guessing there's a little bit of

667
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:39,520
a rye presence in this whiskey.
I I think that this has all of

668
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,400
the richness that you want out
of a bourbon with a little bit

669
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,280
of complexity from those
additional flavors.

670
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,680
I'm not at a 10 out of 10, but I
very close.

671
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,440
I'm going to stick it a 9.5 here
for the palate.

672
00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:56,280
Yeah, this is definitely not
nearly as sweet on the palate as

673
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,920
it let on on the nose.
Tons of mint notes here.

674
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:01,880
I think you're right.
This really leans black pepper

675
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,240
heavy.
I actually had to take two sips

676
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:07,800
of it to get a really good sense
of what kind of whiskey this is.

677
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,680
I think the oak really does take
over on the front of the pallet

678
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,120
and it's not until you like
really go to swallow it that

679
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,680
some of that sweetness creeps
in.

680
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,960
And it does remind me a little
bit of like a vanilla

681
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:25,960
buttercream it it has that like
super rich, decadent sweetness

682
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,120
to it, but kind of at the very
back end.

683
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,320
I like it.
I think it has that viscosity

684
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,800
that we were that you noticed in
the George T Stag that I didn't

685
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,800
get, which is really funny
because this is a much, much

686
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,120
lower proof whiskey than that
George T Stag was.

687
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,520
I like this.
It's not knocking my socks off.

688
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,840
I'm going to give it an 8 out of
10.

689
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,160
The finish, you get fresh
leather.

690
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,760
There's almost a bit of like a
cedar flavor to me.

691
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,000
It brings around the cherries
that I got on the nose.

692
00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:01,880
There's black pepper.
It's continues to stick in that

693
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:07,080
vanilla lane.
I once again really, really,

694
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,920
really like this whiskey.
I'm going to give it a nine out

695
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,000
of 10 on the finish.
I think that you're tasting

696
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,240
notes have been absolutely on
point today.

697
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,000
I don't know.
I feel like I'm not bringing

698
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,240
anything to the table today
because I don't really have much

699
00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:23,440
more to offer than you do.
I guess what I'm going to say

700
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,640
even before I give a score here,
Brad, is like you've now tried

701
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,400
Eagle Rare at 17 years old,
technically 19 years old.

702
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,800
The Eagle Rare that you and I
used to drink was at one point

703
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,120
age stated at 10 years old.
So we've tried it at multiple

704
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:44,760
different age points now.
Is 17/19 the right age statement

705
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:49,440
for this or has this tipped into
something that is, you know, I

706
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,800
don't want to say beyond repair,
but like, do you know what I'm

707
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,280
saying?
Like have we reached the point

708
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,040
of no return with the oakiness
here?

709
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,800
I I don't think it's over oaked.
I like, I think that there is

710
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,200
some oakiness to it.
It gets a little bit funky

711
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,000
throughout the experience, but
never in a way that's

712
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,320
overwhelming.
I actually think, you know, I'll

713
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,680
tip into my balance score here.
I actually think that for the

714
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,640
hyper aged bourbon products and
you know, and rye that we get on

715
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,640
BTEC, I think this is incredibly
well balanced.

716
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,040
There's a lot of good flavors.
The oakiness isn't overwhelming.

717
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,000
I think that it could be a
little bit higher in proof point

718
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,600
and bring out some more flavor.
So that's going to dock it a

719
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,200
little bit for me, but I'm going
to give it a nine out of 10 on

720
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,760
balance.
I do think that the finish is

721
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,120
the best part of this
experience.

722
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,000
It really does kind of roll back
up your tongue with those

723
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,000
caramel notes, tons of brown
sugar.

724
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,160
I do get that pink bubble gum
kind of dustiness a little bit

725
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,280
as well.
I'm going to give it a nine out

726
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,720
of 10 on the finish.
I'm going to give it an 8.5 on

727
00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:56,480
the balance.
So even before we get to the

728
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,440
value score, I'm at a 34.5 out
of 40.

729
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,600
A really good whiskey that we
now have to consider the price

730
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,760
for now.
Again, this product used to be

731
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,600
released at 90 proof back in
2018.

732
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,840
They upped that to 101 proof.
So this is not as low in proof

733
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,560
as that Sazerac that we tried a
couple weeks ago, Brad.

734
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,040
However, it is right there with
the Sazerac and probably even

735
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,120
above that in terms of how much
it costs.

736
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:29,800
I'm seeing it all over the place
online for 1700 dollars, $1500.

737
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,520
This is really firmly in that
luxury bourbon category.

738
00:43:35,240 --> 00:43:41,360
I will say that this ranks a
little bit lower among the 5B

739
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:46,800
tax for me that we've had in
this lineup, and I would not

740
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,560
ever be tempted to spend 4
figures on this whiskey.

741
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,000
That said, that's not really
what we're asking here.

742
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,640
We're asking like, does this
justify being a luxury bourbon?

743
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,480
And I'd like to hear what you
think on that front.

744
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,080
I mean, looking back at the
other releases that we've drank,

745
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,920
the only one that I have given a
good score on value is the

746
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,400
George T Stag, and I definitely
stand by that.

747
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,080
I think it's incredible.
I think that in the world of

748
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:21,600
luxury whiskey, this one comes
pretty close to being worth the

749
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,520
tag of luxury.
I would give it an 8 1/2 on

750
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,160
value.
I like if you're going to drop

751
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:33,360
big money on AB tack whiskey, I
think that between this and the

752
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,600
George T Stag, you're going to
spend your money well.

753
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,080
Yeah.
And I'm trying to remember, we

754
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,800
tried that Thomas H Handy
literally a year ago.

755
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,200
Yeah.
We did say that it wasn't as

756
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,520
good as the prior time that we
had had it, which I think was

757
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,960
the 2018 or 2019 release.
If I had to just rank these off

758
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,640
the top of my head by gut
feeling, I I think I would go

759
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,720
Weller.
Weller was fantastic for me.

760
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,960
Then the Stag and then I'd
probably say the Handy, the

761
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,080
Eagle Rare, and then the Sazerac
Rye.

762
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,160
That would be my 5:00.
So this, like I said, I'm a

763
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:09,720
little cooler on this one man.
This dude, it's so good.

764
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:13,040
Man, well, what's your gut
reaction listing of the five?

765
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:22,360
I think I would probably go the
Stag the Eagle rare.

766
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,760
Oh.
Dude this Igor is so good.

767
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,320
It's OK, it's.
Pretty good.

768
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:36,280
The handy and I don't know.
The last two I think are

769
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,920
interchangeable.
I didn't realize you were that

770
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,560
cool on the Weller.
OK, So Brad and I have very

771
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,440
different like pallets and I
think that's what you get here

772
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,360
when you're looking at B.Tech.
The Stag is definitely the

773
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,160
consensus choice.
I would say, even though it was

774
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,240
a a huge step below Weller for
me in particular, we still

775
00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:57,160
haven't given it a value score.
I think I will stick at my

776
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,720
baseline score of five out of 10
for all these.

777
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:04,480
The only one that I felt like
truly wasn't justified was that

778
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,680
Sazerac Rye, which I gave like
A32 on value.

779
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,200
So if you're in the market for
this, you're going to buy it no

780
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,240
matter what I say is the value
of it.

781
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,080
So I think that's where I kind
of just say, all right, then

782
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,600
it's a 5 and that brings me to a
39.5 out of 50.

783
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:27,000
I am coming in decently higher
than you at a 45.5 out of 50.

784
00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:31,640
So you have you have surpassed
the 90 out of 100 mark.

785
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,920
That's right, I'm at a 91 out of
100.

786
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:41,400
Dang, all right, that's taking
us to a 42.5 out of 50 or an 85

787
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,240
out of 100 on average.
This is a darn good whiskey.

788
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,600
Like I said, I think it's it's
in the bottom tier of the five

789
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,240
for me, but it might be among
Brad's favorites.

790
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,280
Yeah, 100%.
I think that Eagle Rare at any

791
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,560
level is going to be worth it.
Now, the Double Eagle Very Rare,

792
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,880
I can't speak to.
If the whiskey gods want to

793
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,520
bestow some of that juice upon
us, then we'll we'll take it.

794
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,640
We.
We certainly will.

795
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,120
Yeah, at this point, I would say
Eagle Rare continues to be one

796
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,240
of my favorite brands in the
world of whiskey.

797
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:17,600
Yeah, and that's how I am with
Weller.

798
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,360
It's like I I get really mad at
Weller and then every time I try

799
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:21,920
a Weller product I'm like damn
it.

800
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,120
I'm crawling right back.
Yeah, it's like it is justified,

801
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,400
man.
All right, dude, what do you say

802
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,280
we get back into talking about?
Parasite justified class

803
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,280
warfare.
Let's get to it, man.

804
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:46,760
All right everybody, That was
Eagle Rare 17, a 19 year old

805
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,000
whiskey that knocked my socks
off at the very least.

806
00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:52,640
It was good.
It was a good whiskey.

807
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,760
It was no.
William LaRue Weller.

808
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:02,120
As we're recording this, the
Ohio Liquor Fall bottle lottery

809
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:08,760
just went off.
And they are, what's the word

810
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,680
I'm looking for?
You have a chance to win a

811
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,560
bottle of this.
So I am very hopeful.

812
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,000
I signed myself up, my wife up.
I've got a few of my friends

813
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,760
signed up for it.
We'll we'll see if we can win

814
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,200
some Pappy or B tack.
Well good luck with that man.

815
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,320
I don't think anyone else has
ever ever won that before so.

816
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,200
Do you think that nobody
actually wins it?

817
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,400
Like the entire list that they
put out is just a giant

818
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:33,640
fabrication.
Sham.

819
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,960
No, I don't think that.
By the park By the park family.

820
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,720
Yes, exactly.
All right dude, it is time for

821
00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:41,720
us to get into our game for the
day.

822
00:48:41,720 --> 00:48:44,160
It's a game that we call 2 facts
and a falsehood.

823
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:50,800
Brad is going to try to stump
your ball to our right and what

824
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,040
is wrong?
2 facts and a falsehood. 2 Facts

825
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,520
and a Falsehood is the part of
the show where Brad presents me

826
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,160
with three items as fact about
the making of this movie, one of

827
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,800
which is a complete fabrication
and I have to guess which one

828
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,440
that is.
I have started off the season

829
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,120
very strong.
Brad.

830
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:13,080
I am at 5 and O however.
The The Parks of the Film and

831
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,920
Whiskey Game.
It's one of those things where,

832
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,520
like, you know, when a running
back is just freaking plowing

833
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,320
through a defense and then they
pull him for a little while and

834
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,840
it's like, dude, you got to feed
the hot hand here a little bit.

835
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,960
Yeah, I'm a little worried that
we took two weeks off from

836
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,040
recording and now I'm just going
to the bed repeatedly here and

837
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,760
two facts and a falsehood.
Do you remember Marshawn Lynch

838
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:38,440
just freaking joy sticking
everybody out of the way when he

839
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,680
played for the Bills?
I do and then you remember how

840
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,280
they threw it from the one yard
line.

841
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,600
Yep, yeah, that that was with
the Seahawks years, and it might

842
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:51,280
have been the best decision that
Pete Carroll has ever made.

843
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,120
All right, let's get into two
facts in a falsehood.

844
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,240
Brad, hit me with your list of
three.

845
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,720
Fact number one to create the
intense flood scene in the Kim's

846
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:03,800
semi basement apartment, the
production team designed an

847
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,800
intricate custom built water
system that allowed them to

848
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,600
flood the set with precision,
controlling the water levels to

849
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,720
match the pacing of the scene
while keeping the actor safe.

850
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,440
Fact #2 Kiwu's job as an at home
tutor was specifically chosen by

851
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,160
director Bong Joon Ho after you
observed that in contemporary

852
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,000
South Korea, private tutoring is
one of the very few professions

853
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,320
where individuals from vastly
different social classes can

854
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:36,120
realistically interact.
Fact #3 editor Jin MO Yang chose

855
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,560
to edit Parasite using Final Cut
Pro 7A software that Apple

856
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,760
discontinued in 2011.
Remarkably, he worked on an old

857
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,800
computer that hadn't been
updated since 2014.

858
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,200
Despite the outdated technology,
Yang believed that the

859
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,320
software's familiarity allowed
him to focus more on the film's

860
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,760
intricate pacing and tone.
And his unconventional choice

861
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:02,400
paid off, leading to a Oscar
nomination in the category of

862
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:03,160
editing.
That's.

863
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:07,240
Awesome.
Now I will, I will say that I

864
00:51:07,240 --> 00:51:10,760
have heard that fact before, so
I I'm going to assume that's

865
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,720
true.
I don't know like how I would

866
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:15,120
possibly have heard that if
someone else made-up the exact

867
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,160
same thing.
So I'm going to say 3 is true.

868
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,440
One and two both sound very
plausible.

869
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:26,000
Like #2 yes, tutoring is a place
where social strata are crossed.

870
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:31,520
And then remind me of #1 again.
The flood sequence that they

871
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,600
they custom built.
During the flood sequence this

872
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,080
time around, I found myself
wondering, like, I wonder how

873
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,760
they did this set because they
clearly had to make a duplicate

874
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,040
of the apartment that they'd
used in prior scenes.

875
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,400
Man, what?
What was the drainage system

876
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,920
like in this?
And like I was really, even

877
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,000
though I was engrossed in the
movie, I was like, man, that was

878
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,160
that had to take a lot of
technical know how just.

879
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,240
Come out of that toilet, yeah.
And you were like, I wonder how

880
00:51:57,240 --> 00:51:58,760
the production?
Team did that.

881
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,080
Is it chocolate?
What is it?

882
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,520
I will say it's.
Really dark, Boo.

883
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:10,240
It's dark, man, I'm going to
say.

884
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,320
I don't know because see your.
Your fact for #1.

885
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,960
Was just like, they had to
design a very technically

886
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,960
precise set.
It's like, yeah, that's how sets

887
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,200
work.
Number #2 yes, that's how

888
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:24,800
tutoring works.
So I don't really know.

889
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,440
I'm just going to say that.
I mean, you know, tutoring

890
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,960
isn't.
Always a socially stratified

891
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,280
event, Sure.
Now I feel like you're trying to

892
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,720
steer me in a different way.
I'm going to say.

893
00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:39,800
That number?
2 is the falsehood.

894
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,560
I think it's probably 1.
I think you got me this week,

895
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,280
Brad, if you think you got me.
Then why?

896
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:52,120
Why would you?
I, I feel like that's what I

897
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:55,760
Yeah, it is to your answer.
I'll, I'll let you, I'll let you

898
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,080
switch if you think it's the
wrong one.

899
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,000
Nah, I I meant to stick with
two.

900
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:04,320
OK, well, you're wrong.
Do you do you feel like?

901
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,160
Justified.
No, I knew I was wrong.

902
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,440
I took.
I took my first L on the season

903
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,920
so one is the falsehood.
So like I I do.

904
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,400
I'm sure they designed a set
though, right?

905
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,160
Maybe.
I have no idea.

906
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,200
No, they actually just flooded a
whole city.

907
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,360
Block and then left.
It's a deal with.

908
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:30,400
It poor people.
Suck it I.

909
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,720
Feel like 1 is actually true.
But you just didn't find it in

910
00:53:33,720 --> 00:53:35,520
your research.
So you're saying you made it up?

911
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,240
I did make it up.
That's that did happen.

912
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,360
All right, man, let's get back
into talking.

913
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,000
About the movie, and since we've
been hinting at poop coming out

914
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,560
of a toilet, let's get into this
kind of third act.

915
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,520
So the second act ends as they
escape the house after they've

916
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,560
been hiding under the table.
It's raining really hard.

917
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,480
They get back to their sub.
What's what's it called?

918
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,200
Subterranean.
Subterranean life as rat.

919
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,040
People and it is flooded up to
their necks.

920
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,480
In sewage water.
And it is just the final kind

921
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,520
of, pardon the pun, because it's
going to come back later.

922
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,680
It's kind of the final twist of
the knife in terms of like, man,

923
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:17,040
these people cannot catch a
break and they are living in a

924
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,920
in a hell of their own making.
Partially the shot of the

925
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,840
daughter smoking.
A cigarette on their.

926
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,280
First off, the fact that they
have a toilet that you literally

927
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:31,400
have to like, like climb, your
head will hit the ceiling

928
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,800
because you're climbing up to it
is wild.

929
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:38,160
I mean, again, talk about visual
metaphors like they live lower

930
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,760
than the level at which you take
a.

931
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:46,520
Oh, and like, do you know what?
I mean, I, I, yes, I loved that

932
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:53,280
the transportation from the Park
House to the Kim house is just

933
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,840
this constant descent into like
hell basically.

934
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,520
So this is where I want to say.
The movie or the filmmaker that

935
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,960
Bong Joon Ho in this film
reminds me of the most is David

936
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,520
Fincher.
And it's because of the how

937
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,600
precise the use of the camera
is.

938
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,800
Like if you watch a movie like
the Social Network and how even

939
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,360
though that movie will have like
really fast whip pans,

940
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,080
everything is either like pre
programmed by a computer or it

941
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,120
is like so precise that it you
can tell it's made by a madman

942
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,440
in Fincher.
And I feel like this movie is

943
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,160
exactly like that in that first
2/3, the cameras constantly

944
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,440
moving.
There's a lot of montage in that

945
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:36,000
second third, you get that great
kind of like Ki Wu goes and

946
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,120
hides under the bed of the girl
that he's tutoring.

947
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,200
And then there's this great shot
from the ceiling where the dog

948
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,520
is like under like crouched
under the bed and finds him and

949
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:48,120
and it like pans over to kind of
reveal the dog.

950
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,360
And I'm like, oh, that's a
Fincher shot right there.

951
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,600
Also side note.
She gets upset and leaves him

952
00:55:54,600 --> 00:56:00,160
safely under the bed because she
finds out that whatever meal the

953
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:04,760
mom had made got eaten.
That thing that looked freaking

954
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:05,800
delicious.
It did.

955
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,760
I I want that Ramdan.
Yeah, yeah.

956
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,240
Oh.
Dude, I want some.

957
00:56:11,240 --> 00:56:15,600
Of that and the moment that
really like.

958
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,840
Solidified it for me is as
they've gone down this descent

959
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,240
into hell, right as they're kind
of arriving at the base of this

960
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:25,720
set of stairs, you get this shot
that starts.

961
00:56:25,720 --> 00:56:29,360
It's basically a crane shot and
it just lowers itself as they

962
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:34,320
kind of descend these stairs and
it's lowering through this kind

963
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,360
of twisted web of electrical
lines.

964
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:41,400
And it's my favorite, one of all
of the visual metaphors in the

965
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,680
whole movie because they have
really weaved this web of deceit

966
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,240
throughout the film.
And you're just like, now you're

967
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:52,320
watching as they have to like
navigate this web that they've

968
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,520
built for themselves.
And I'm like just Primo.

969
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:56,640
It's just.
Such a good.

970
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,440
Shot dude it's it's incredible
and I I.

971
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,680
Think the thing for me the
second time through this movie

972
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:08,360
you you mentioned earlier how
every setup has a payoff and

973
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:13,360
like every single moment of this
movie feels like a metaphor,

974
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,720
which the the sun Ki Woo like
says multiple times throughout

975
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,360
the movie.
He's like whoa, this is so

976
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,240
metaphorical bro, but he never
says what?

977
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,400
It's a metaphor.
For no, not a single time.

978
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:34,040
And I think that's what I
that's, I think this movie

979
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:39,760
teeters on the edge of being
ridiculous and, and like in a

980
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:44,960
bad way ridiculous where it's
like every single thing is

981
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:50,040
knocking you over the head as
multiple characters get knocked

982
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,600
over the head in this movie.
And it's like, do you get it?

983
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:58,960
They're poor and that, like, for
me this time through, it did not

984
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,920
teeter off the edge into
ridiculousness, but it comes

985
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,040
close throughout the entire
movie.

986
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,200
And it is moments like that
where it's like an incredible,

987
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:13,640
beautiful shot that points out
the tangled web that they have

988
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,680
woven.
And it's because the director is

989
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,400
freaking awesome that I don't
mind him hitting us over the

990
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,480
head with that.
And I think in the hands of a

991
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:28,080
lesser director, this would just
be another absolutely never

992
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,200
heard of in America foreign
film.

993
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,520
Let's talk about the end of the
movie.

994
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,760
Or the third section, quote, UN
quote.

995
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,680
Now I've already said I don't
know if I can evaluate this kind

996
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,600
of on its own merits because I
had to watch it in a vacuum.

997
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,920
Like I, I knowing what, what
happened, I had to then go back

998
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,040
and watch a movie and say, like,
oh, how do I feel about this

999
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,800
now?
So I'll I'll never be able to

1000
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,880
experience it for the first time
going in blind with a packed

1001
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,280
theater that.
Said I do.

1002
00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:00,000
Think that the birthday party
and everything that comes after

1003
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,440
it is actually the weakest part
of the film.

1004
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:07,320
And I I say that because they
have left you in so much

1005
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,320
suspense throughout the film.
And now you've seen the Kims at

1006
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:16,120
their absolute lowest and you're
expecting this big operatic

1007
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,000
outburst of violence at the end
of the film.

1008
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,760
And what it really turns into is
a much simpler kind of domestic,

1009
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:27,280
you know, in not incoherent but
inexplainable outburst of

1010
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,560
violence that looks like it
would belong more on like ATV

1011
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,920
drama.
And I'm not saying like that it

1012
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,600
looks bad visually, but I think
I was like, oh man, this is

1013
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,600
really going to come to a head.
And it does.

1014
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,400
But I was like, oh, OK, you know
what I mean?

1015
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:44,800
Especially.
After watching the.

1016
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:49,640
The Peach montage and then that
incredibly convoluted juggling

1017
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:53,360
of the Ramdan sequence.
The end of the movie felt a

1018
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:57,480
little bit like, OK, this was a
good sequence, but it's like at

1019
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,200
the at best the third best
sequence in this movie.

1020
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,760
I think that there are a few.
Moments in the final sequence

1021
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:12,680
that don't quite work, like when
the the dad of the Park family

1022
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:18,640
is going to get the keys and he
like holds his nose at like that

1023
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,480
is the only part of this film
that felt fake to me.

1024
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:27,960
Like every every other element
of this film felt honest to the

1025
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:32,480
human experience of like this is
something that could be done by

1026
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:36,120
real humans.
That was the only moment for me

1027
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:40,920
where I'm like, Oh, yeah, no,
like nobody would turn their

1028
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:45,240
nose up as they're trying to get
the thing that will save their

1029
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,400
son, or at least in their mind
and their heart, it's the thing

1030
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,800
that will save their son.
So like, like that's a little

1031
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,200
thing that kind of turned me off
at the end of the movie.

1032
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:59,280
Overall, though, like I love the
end of this movie.

1033
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:03,400
I I think that the conversation
that Mister Kim and Mr. Park

1034
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,560
have behind the bushes and
preparing to.

1035
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,680
Where he's basically.
Just saying like, oh.

1036
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,920
You're just like me, like you're
just trying to do your best,

1037
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,160
too.
And Mr. Park completely

1038
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,040
misinterprets it.
And throughout the whole movie,

1039
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:19,000
he's been saying Mr. Kim's never
crossed the line with me.

1040
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,280
And you can tell in that moment
that in his eyes, he crossed the

1041
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:23,880
line.
And he thinks it's all about

1042
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,200
money.
Like to, to the point of what

1043
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:30,680
the rich people are not just
fueled by, but their entire lens

1044
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:34,240
for looking at how all their
relationships are transactional.

1045
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,160
Like, oh, it's, it's so good.
And I think everything leading

1046
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:38,720
up to that birthday party is
good too.

1047
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:43,000
Like you finally get the wife
thinking that Mister Kim smells

1048
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:47,200
and it's such a such a mean joke
because she's sitting in the

1049
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,880
back seat with her feet up on
the passenger seat, like

1050
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,400
headrest with no shoes on.
She has her feet literally in

1051
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,560
this guy's face.
And then she's going to say, you

1052
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,200
smell too bad to me.
I need to roll the window down.

1053
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,520
Like it just it continues to
ratchet up that like, oh, this

1054
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,920
guy's going to explode thing.
And they do such a good job of

1055
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:11,840
intercutting it with the escape
of the the former housekeeper's

1056
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,600
husband from the basement where
he goes on a murderous rampage.

1057
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,680
Like, I just, I was really on
board with it.

1058
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,800
And then I felt like, yes, you
get this moment of kind of like

1059
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:25,120
chaos, but the denumont that
happens after that, I'm like,

1060
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,320
OK, I, I feel like we could have
ended this movie 10 minutes ago.

1061
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,040
And that's not to say any of it
is bad, and it does a great job

1062
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,480
of underscoring all of the
themes of the movie.

1063
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:39,920
But for me, especially the, the
random choice to start having a

1064
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:46,360
narrator 5 minutes before the
movie ends was like, oh, I think

1065
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,920
this is the first time that
they, they kind of wrote

1066
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,040
themselves into a corner a
little bit and they don't know

1067
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,520
how to get themselves out of
this without putting a narrator

1068
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,080
in.
And I my.

1069
01:02:56,080 --> 01:03:02,440
Curiosity was why don't you just
end it knowing that the dad is

1070
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:07,040
now hiding in the basement.
Like that felt like it would

1071
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:13,120
have been an honest, like
wrapping up of the story that

1072
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,080
we've told.
Like you have now become the

1073
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:21,320
mole, the lowest version of the
poor person that you know you

1074
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,400
are.
Like, I don't know, it felt like

1075
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,640
that would have been the thing.
But instead I I'm really curious

1076
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:34,840
what you think about the choice
to show the son making a plan

1077
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,400
even though the dad told him
never to make a plan.

1078
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,600
And they give you the emotional
like, ah, he accomplished the

1079
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:45,520
plan, but then they show that it
didn't really happen and or that

1080
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:46,960
it hasn't happened yet.
Right.

1081
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,360
And I think that's even more of
a gut punch.

1082
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,720
I do like that ending because it
shows that the movie isn't

1083
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,960
primarily interested in being
clever and ending on like all

1084
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,720
the dads in the basement.
See what we did like a like A

1085
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:01,400
twist ending thriller kind of
thing.

1086
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,880
It's more interested in the
emotional gut punch of they are

1087
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,240
right back where they started,
if not in a worse spot.

1088
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,760
Because now there's like they
have passed the need to be

1089
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,840
aspirational and to dream an
impossible dream of getting out

1090
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,120
of poverty on to their kids in a
way that that wasn't there

1091
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,520
before.
So it's a really tragic ending

1092
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,440
and I like that.
I like that they stuck with

1093
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,720
that, but I just feel like to
get to that point they have to

1094
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:30,760
get through about 5 minutes of
really clunky exposition of him

1095
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,560
waking up and now he's kind of
the happy idiot that can't help

1096
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,880
but laugh at things.
And isn't isn't everything so

1097
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,560
hilarious?
And you know, you find out the

1098
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:42,680
sister's dead and then he climbs
the hill and sees the Morse

1099
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,160
code.
I feel like you could have cut

1100
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:48,080
out like 90% of that and just
showed him without narration.

1101
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,640
Recovering from his injury going
up to look at the house,

1102
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,560
indicating that he still has
these aspirations and then

1103
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,640
seeing the Morse code and then
gone into the ending.

1104
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:02,400
There was just a couple little
clunky movements in that last 15

1105
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,800
minutes that honestly took this
movie from being like a a

1106
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,800
potential 10 out of 10 for me
down just a little bit.

1107
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:14,800
I I think I'm.
I'm like in between this is a

1108
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:19,400
perfect movie and where you're
at like I like, I think that the

1109
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:23,320
ending works really well.
I except for the part where he

1110
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,840
would be dead.
Like I I think we can all agree

1111
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,440
that getting hit in the head
with that rock multiple times

1112
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,600
meant the and the amount of
blood that was underneath his

1113
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,960
head and the second one where it
hits him in the front.

1114
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,560
Of the head and it's thrown from
a height of like 7 feet and

1115
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:46,760
hurled at his head.
Yes, I like very clearly that is

1116
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,800
a dead man.
So if we can set that aside for

1117
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,280
a moment, I I think that the
narration works.

1118
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:58,760
I think that it almost feels
like an epilogue, like like

1119
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:02,520
reading a book or reading a
letter and it's like APS like it

1120
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:06,520
almost sets it up as like a
here's the wrap up of the film.

1121
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:12,720
I think my curiosity is like, is
the whole point of the movie

1122
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:16,920
just to say like the Kims are
one step away from becoming the

1123
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,200
parks and like like.
At the end of the.

1124
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,400
Movie What does the Sun say?
He's like, I'm sure I'll get

1125
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,200
married, I'm sure I'll have
kids.

1126
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,000
That'll all come come along the
way.

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01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:33,240
But I'm going to get some bread.
Like that's my goal, so that I

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01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:37,520
can save you, but I'm gonna make
money and that's the only thing

1129
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,920
I'm gonna do.
Well, it puts him in a morally

1130
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:41,320
lose.
Lose situation.

1131
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,720
Either he does accomplish that
dream and he becomes morally

1132
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:49,280
bankrupt or he doesn't and his
dad dies in a basement somewhere

1133
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:50,960
and they're still in squalor.
Like it's.

1134
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,000
Yeah, it's a very tragic ending
for sure.

1135
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:55,400
Yeah, What?
What a brutal.

1136
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,760
Movie man.
Well, on that note, Brad, let's

1137
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,520
get into our.
Final segment of the day, which

1138
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,440
we call Let's Make it a Double
presented by Blackwood

1139
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,880
Distilling Company.
We're near the end of the

1140
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,480
episode.
So thanks, listening to the film

1141
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,240
and Whiskey show, let's pair
another film with this one.

1142
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,480
Even if it's struggling.
It's the final segment of the

1143
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:13,920
day.
Now let's make it a double.

1144
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,800
Let's make it a double.
Is the part of the show where we

1145
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,040
pick a movie to pair up with
this one to make the perfect

1146
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,240
double feature?
Brad, I feel like I've been

1147
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,960
talking a lot today.
Would you like to go first, have

1148
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,840
your moment in the sun before I
just bulldoze you with all of my

1149
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,640
words again?
Oh man, I sure I.

1150
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:36,400
I think that I'm going to pair
this with a film that like

1151
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,480
stylistically makes zero sense
next to Parasite because I feel

1152
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:44,600
like Parasite is very economical
in a lot of ways.

1153
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:48,280
And the movie I'm going to
mention is not purposefully.

1154
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:54,520
I'm going to pair this with The
Wolf of Wall Street, I think.

1155
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:59,320
I think that the reason for me
is because of the ending of both

1156
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:03,560
films.
Like both of the movies end by

1157
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:08,480
saying, hey, like you just
watched what all of these people

1158
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:12,120
in this movie did.
What's your take?

1159
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,439
Like, where are you at as an
audience member on what just

1160
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:19,600
happened in this movie?
And I think that this time

1161
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:23,359
through watching Parasite, it
just popped into my head.

1162
01:08:23,359 --> 01:08:25,920
I was like, oh, this kind of
reminds me of how The Wolf of

1163
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,520
Wall Street ends.
And, you know, obviously both of

1164
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:33,720
them are about classes and
wealth versus poverty and what

1165
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,560
people will do to obtain wealth.
And I, I like, I think that

1166
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:42,000
there are similar enough themes,
but the ending of the film where

1167
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,240
it like forces the question back
on you the viewer.

1168
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:50,479
You know, Parasite like Ki wooed
looks directly into the camera

1169
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,479
through the 4th wall at you the
viewer.

1170
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:58,560
It feels like a very
thematically similar ending to

1171
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:02,120
both films.
Yeah, I'm kind of along similar

1172
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:03,720
lines.
I'm going to pick a movie that

1173
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:07,840
came out in 2018, one of my
favorite movies from the last 10

1174
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:09,240
years.
And it's a film called The

1175
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,680
Favorite.
It stars Emma Stone and Olivia

1176
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:13,479
Coleman.
It's the one that Olivia Coleman

1177
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,720
wins her Oscar for.
It is just like this in that it

1178
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:21,720
is really biting kind of vicious
humor with ironic use of

1179
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:25,200
classical music.
It's all about two would be

1180
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:29,080
social climbers trying to get
into the court of Queen Anne and

1181
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,319
win her favor.
And it is.

1182
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:33,279
I mean, it's just it's
hilarious.

1183
01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:36,520
It's brutal.
And I could not be more

1184
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,880
entertained by that movie.
And it it raises the same kind

1185
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:43,000
of questions of films like
Parasite and The Wolf of Wall

1186
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,279
Street.
So it's the favorite for me,

1187
01:09:45,359 --> 01:09:47,319
it's Wolf of Wall Street for
Brad.

1188
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,720
And that was let's make it a
double presented by Blackwood

1189
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,560
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No matter which film you choose

1190
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,440
to pair it up with, you can
always make it a double with

1191
01:09:56,440 --> 01:10:00,640
Blackwood Distilling Co.
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1192
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:05,400
It a cocktail double Bob.
I made their rye Rita the other

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01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:13,000
day where I dude dude I I
already love margaritas.

1194
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There was a Mexican restaurant
near the house where I lived

1195
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:21,760
with Haley when we first got
married in the world famous

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Have you ever had El Jalapenos

1197
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It's probably like 13 or $14.00

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now, but they're like signature
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I I have not.
I assume it's.

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Incredible and large, it's
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I did all of that but I made it

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with Blackwood Rye.
Dude, the toasted rye freaking

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works in this cocktail.
The rye, Rita, I think you.

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Brad, it's time for us to give
final scores on this movie.

1216
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,640
I'm going to be at a nine out of
10 on this one.

1217
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:34,920
I really, really like this
movie.

1218
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,200
I know I ruined it for myself,
and I'm feeling like this movie

1219
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,840
is hitting the ceiling of where
it can be, knowing that I ruined

1220
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:44,160
it for myself.
But I do feel like that last 15

1221
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,840
minutes is just a little bit
clunky, and it took it from

1222
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,840
being a possible 10 down to a
nine for me.

1223
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,720
Yeah, this movie is not.
Perfect.

1224
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,880
But man, it is so, so close for
me.

1225
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:58,360
I'm going to give it a nine and
a half.

1226
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:02,440
I think I gave it like an 8 1/2
after the first time I watched

1227
01:12:02,440 --> 01:12:06,600
it, but seeing it a second time
through, you are right, Bob, The

1228
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:10,400
the cinematography in this movie
is just incredible.

1229
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:14,920
I, I don't know if I've ever
seen a movie where the camera

1230
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:21,840
felt more impersonal and like we
said, biting and yet allowed the

1231
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:26,960
characters to be so likable.
I like, I was just blown away by

1232
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:28,280
that.
This time through.

1233
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:32,880
It's a nine and a half for me.
Now the real question, Bob, is

1234
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:36,920
this a modern classic?
I think it's a modern classic.

1235
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:41,360
Kind of in spite of me, right?
Like it's it is far and away.

1236
01:12:41,480 --> 01:12:44,480
I think the.
Best loved movie of the last 10

1237
01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:46,960
years.
Oppenheimer notwithstanding,

1238
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,480
like it is it is in the top.
It might be the number one movie

1239
01:12:50,480 --> 01:12:52,640
on letterboxed.
Like, it's really, really high

1240
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:56,560
up there and it it has like an
average rating of eight point

1241
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,640
whatever on IMDb.
The general public, in addition

1242
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:05,000
to critics love this movie.
I think that I am I have finally

1243
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,680
joined their ranks in terms of
not just deep appreciation for

1244
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:10,280
the movie, but actually enjoying
it.

1245
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,480
I don't think I would have it on
like my personal top 20 of of

1246
01:13:15,480 --> 01:13:19,120
this century or anything.
But yes, I think it does deserve

1247
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,160
to be considered a modern
classic.

1248
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:22,640
Where are you falling on this
one, Brad?

1249
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:24,840
Yeah, I I think this is a modern
classic.

1250
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:29,200
The further along we get in this
season and and talk about the

1251
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:33,960
idea of a modern classic, I
think for me, there's something

1252
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:39,040
about a movie that like advances
the world of cinema that's like

1253
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:43,440
important and and that it brings
something new to the table while

1254
01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:45,720
still appreciating everything
that came before it.

1255
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,040
I think Parasite really does
that well.

1256
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,560
I I mean, you talked about it a
minute ago.

1257
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:56,000
I think that Parasite and
Oppenheimer are like, for me at

1258
01:13:56,000 --> 01:14:00,880
the top.
We watch Whiplash too, man.

1259
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:04,800
Yeah, I would say those three
are like peak examples of what a

1260
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:09,320
modern classic should be.
Yeah, and I mean not to spoil

1261
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,360
too much, I think.
Next week we might be getting

1262
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,520
into modern classic territory as
well, but in a completely

1263
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,920
different genre and type of
film, because next week we are

1264
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:22,480
looking at Sam Mendes's James
Bond masterpiece, Question Mark

1265
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,200
Skyfall.
Brad, have you seen Skyfall

1266
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,600
before?
I have I there is a.

1267
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:32,440
Season where like every time a
new Bond film came out, I had a

1268
01:14:32,440 --> 01:14:34,840
small group of friends that we
would just kind of go see it

1269
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:39,200
with the Daniel Craigs.
So I saw it when it came out in

1270
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,240
theaters and I have not seen it
since.

1271
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,200
Well, you're about to see it
again, man.

1272
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,680
Folks, that is it.
For Parasite and we're teasing

1273
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,240
next week's movie.
But before we get there, let us

1274
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:52,720
know what you think of this
film.

1275
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,160
You can find us on all of our
social media platforms,

1276
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:59,720
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1277
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,000
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1278
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,320
We.
Are on there every single day

1279
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:07,600
talking movies, whiskey, and so
many other things.

1280
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,240
If you'd like to join the
conversation, there's a link to

1281
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:12,920
our Discord at the end of every
single one of our show notes.

1282
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,960
Join us next week for 2012's
Skyfall.

1283
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:20,640
But until then, I'm Bob Book,
I'm Brad G and we'll see you

1284
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:21,240
next.
Time.