Night at the Museum / Redwood Empire Lost Monarch (feat. Lee Diaz, ReserveBar)

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In 2006, director Shawn Levien
star Ben Stiller gave the world

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a goofy romp through the
expansive annals of history.

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In 2024 we sample a different
kind of empire.

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The film is Night at the Museum.
The whiskey is Redwood Empire

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lost monarch.
And we'll review them both.

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This is the film and whiskey.
Podcast

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Welcome to the Film and Whiskey
Podcast, where each week we

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review a classic movie and a
glass of whiskey.

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I'm Bob Book.
I'm Brad G.

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And today we are in the year
2006 looking at the second

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highest grossing domestic box
office juggernaut of the year.

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Night at the museum.
Brad what?

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Was #1 Bob?
Number one was Pirates of the

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Caribbean Dead Man's Chest.
But our operative rule on the

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season is if we just reviewed
your movie 3 weeks ago and now

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it has a sequel, we're not doing
it.

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I I will just take this Pirates.
Enough.

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Me too.
I'll take this one obligatory

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moment to say go watch Bill
Nighye, he films.

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Yeah, listen, man, the Davy
Jones character and the design

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of that character.
Oh man.

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And it holds up really well 18
years later.

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Does. 100% So folks, if this is
your first time joining us,

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welcome into film and whiskey.
This season, what we're doing is

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looking at the highest grossing
films from 1988 to 2019, and

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we're visiting each year in
succession.

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Brad, when we arrived at 2006, I
was pretty surprised to see

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Night at the Museum as the
second highest grossing movie.

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It's one of those films that
like we were still in a big DVD

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market at the time and pretty
much everybody I knew at least

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rented this movie at some point.
It's just it seemed like a very

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harmless, family friendly movie.
But in the shocker of all

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shockers, at the end of last
week I announced I have never

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seen this movie prior to.
Not a single, not a single time,

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Bob.
No.

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And it's kind of like, I don't
know if it was just, hey, I'll

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get around to it eventually,
someday, or the trailer.

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The trailer pretty much gives
the whole thing away.

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So I have a sense of what this
is, but I'm glad I've seen it

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now.
But this is one of the rare Bob

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hasn't seen it weeks on film and
whiskey.

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Yeah, and I I probably saw this.
I know that I saw it more than

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once, but I'm pretty sure it was
just two times.

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I don't think I've returned to
this movie time and time again,

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so this is in the medium amount
of times I've seen a movie 2

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times.
The the bell curve does not span

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a large number here.
It it sure doesn't, Bob.

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All right.
Well, joining us today is our

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first special guest in a number
of weeks.

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I'm very excited to have another
voice represented here and it's

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none other than our friend Lee.
Diaz Lee is the e-commerce

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Director and Single Barrel
Curator for our friends over at

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reservebar.com.
Lee, how you doing today, man?

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Oh, doing great.
And actually I've seen this

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movie about 20 times, so I'm
super stoked about this one.

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It has, it has a new life and
syndication.

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So it is, it is everywhere.
When you're like, kind of lazy

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on a Saturday, you'll see it on
TBS and just be like, all right,

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I guess I'll watch this again
for the 35th time.

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I know what I'm doing with my
next two hours here.

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Yes, I.
Was going to say this is one of

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those movies that has a quote
from it that like still lives on

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in my life and for some reason
when Dick Van Dyke is leading

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Ben Stiller through the museum
and he always goes moving on,

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moving on and and he just says
it over and over.

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That has been a quote that I
just I I find myself using

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really often.
Is that where that comes from?

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I've heard you do that to me.
Yeah.

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Yes, it's from Night at the
Museum.

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Oh my gosh, oh, this explains so
much.

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Brad.
Such a full circle, full circle

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moment.
Well, yeah, this movie came out

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like three years before I ever
met Brad.

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We've been friends for about 15
years and I've been hearing him

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do that for 15 years and it's
never clicked 'cause I never saw

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this movie.
And it's it's like, not

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something that totally makes
sense why that line has stuck in

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my brain, but for some reason
it's just a great moving on.

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Man, that's funny.
All right.

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Well, before we get too far away
from our friend Lee, folks, you

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know, usually we have people
that are spirits writers or

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movie critics.
It's not often that we have

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someone that's the e-commerce
director of a website join us.

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So we we kind of need to
establish our relationship.

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We met Lee last year when we
were judges at the New York

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World Wine and Spirits
competition in New York City.

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Lee was at our table for the
three days that we were there

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and boy oh boy did I have a
freaking blast getting to know

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this guy.
And so we've been talking for

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almost a year about how to get
him on the show.

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We sent him the list of movies
at the beginning of the season

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and he said I'm circling night
at the museum.

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So we've been waiting like 1818
weeks to get you on here, dude.

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So you better bring it today, is
what I'm saying, Lee.

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I I mean, that's a that's a
really stressful place to be in.

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I'm I'm worried.
I mean, how do we relive a

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spirits competition live while
reviewing a movie?

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I mean, this is going to be
tough.

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I thought maybe we could just
take like 150 sips of the

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whiskey that we're drinking
today and and then we'd kind of

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recreate the experience a.
Bit this will get very sloppy

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quickly but.
You.

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Tell Spit Bucket Lee.
What?

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Oh, yeah.
Spit bucket.

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Where's the spit bucket?
Oh my gosh.

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Lee, can you tell our audience a
little bit about Reserve Bar

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before we dive into the movie?
Absolutely.

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So Reserve Bar is an e-commerce
site we where we offer rare and

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unique spirits as well as wine
and champagne.

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We have a lot of customers who
will buy for gifting

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opportunities.
We also do engraving and a lot

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of times when you can't get
something at your local store,

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you can find it on reserve bar
and we can ship it directly to

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your door.
And so it makes it very easy for

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you to find some things that you
actually, some allocated things

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even that you might have to wait
in line for.

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You can just sit in bed and
order it on reserve bar in the

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morning instead of waiting in
30° weather to try to get that

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bottle.
I have to say my my first real

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exposure to reserve bar
selections, which Lee again

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curates, was just this past
week.

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I stopped off in Kentucky and
visited our friend Zach Johnston

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for a hot 2nd and he sent me
home with a whole bunch of

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whiskey.
One of them is an Amberana

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finished rye from Who's it from?
Rare character.

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Rare character.
Oh my gosh, dude.

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And I know it was a really
divisive thing, but like, this

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is the most tasty thing I've had
in months and I have not given

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Brad any yet and I'm kind of
outing myself now.

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But that's how much I love this
bottle, Lee.

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Nice job.
Well, sneak preview and Brad I

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will send you Umberana Part 2.
It was just, it just hit our

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retailer and so it will hit our
market in a few weeks, but

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you'll get a sneak preview of
that one.

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Yeah, we will.
That's why we bring Lee on the

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show, folks.
All right guys, let's dive into

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this movie.
And in order to do that, we have

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to get to our first segment of
the day, which we call Brad

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explains.
Brad's going to give us the

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movie plots with only 60 seconds
ticking on the clock, so let's

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go ahead and hear your take with
this little segment that we

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call.
Brad explains.

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Brad Explains is the part of the
show where Brad breaks down the

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plot of the movie that he has
just seen, often for the first

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time.
This is Brad's rare second time

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viewing or perhaps even third
time viewing of Night at the

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Museum, so he is a a seasoned
expert at this film.

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By now, Brad, you have one
minute on the clock to break

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down the plot of this movie,
spoiling the whole thing as we

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go.
So folks, if you are like me and

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you haven't seen Night at the
Museum, hit pause here, Watch

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the movie.
It's an enjoyable hour and 40

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minutes and then come back and
join us Brad, 60 seconds and go.

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Night at the Museum is a film
about a 40 something year old

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schlub who can't keep a job.
In a bid to impress his ex-wife

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and estranged son, he takes a
job that will definitely impress

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them.
Night security guard at the

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Natural Museum of History in New
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Upon getting the job, he finds
out that at evenings the museum

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comes to life and he has to
learn how to keep its

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inhabitants happy and from
escaping the museum, all while

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fighting off some former feisty
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And folks, this is crucially the
first film that we've ever had

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on this podcast featuring the
great Mickey Rooney, who is, I

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believe, 147 years old.
Tell.

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Me that I.
Can still do a pile driver.

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Tell me that every time he
talks.

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You don't just lose it, man.
I love what he calls Ben Stiller

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a hot dog.
Yep.

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Like it.
Like, derisively at multiple

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points at this movie.
As if a hot dog is not a

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delicious American basic treat.
Yeah, I I don't know, man.

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It's great.
You get some Dick Van Dyke in

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here.
Just what a great old guy movie.

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Well, and and really, the three
old security guards are iconic

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actors, right?
So, I mean, Dick Van Dyke,

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Mickey Rooney, Bill Cobbs, I
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I mean, these are guys that have
had decades in in film and TV

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and they're just here being the
old crotchety security guard.

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It it honestly reminds me a
little bit of second hand lions.

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Like you just have Michael Caine
and Robert Duvall being old and

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awesome and I and like, I'm here
for it, man.

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If you can have a career of 50
plus years in Hollywood and then

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star in a kids movie where
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I I don't know, man.
That's that.

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That'll do it for me.
That's the dream.

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That's what we're shooting for
here, Brad.

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That's what life's all about.
All right.

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So as we talk about this cast, I
think I want to go back to one

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of the things that really made
me smile watching this movie.

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And it's the fact that this
movie has a dedicated opening

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credits sequence.
Like there is no movie.

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It's just the opening credits.
For three minutes.

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Fan.
I'm a huge fan.

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It was probably the best
directed part of this whole

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movie.
It looked amazing, like, and it

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also features like the cast to
this movie is so weird when you

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just list them all in credit
order that you had.

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You had credit like titles that
were 18 people down the movie

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and then it was like Charlie
Murphy and Rami Malek, we're on

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the same card and that was like,
it felt like a fever dream.

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What is going on here?
But I guess that's just how deep

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the roster goes on this movie.
Yeah, man, you even got Ricky

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Trevez in here, yeah?
Where do you Brad, where do you

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want to start with performances
today?

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I I think it might be worth
starting at the top.

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Let's start with Ben Stiller,
because it feels like an easy

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one to get lost in the weeds of
all the side characters and miss

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out on talking about Ben Stiller
and I would say probably Robin

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Williams as the second.
Lead here?

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Yeah, let's start with Ben
Stiller.

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We've only done a few Ben
Stiller films on the show, maybe

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even just one.
We did Walter Mitty.

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I don't think we've done like
Zoolander, have we?

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Anchorman, I guess for our our
very first time ever recorded.

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That is true.
He was an Anchorman in a in a

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pre episode that that wasn't
even episode one.

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Bob.
Yeah.

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That was like our test episode.
It's been a long time since

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we've talked, and it was.
Perfect.

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And there was nothing wrong with
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Episode Ben Stiller is such an
interesting figure in comedy.

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Because he was by far the
biggest thing in comedy for a

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number of years there.
When he came out with Meet the

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Parents and then especially the
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was a record-breaking comedy at
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top of the world.
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to me because he'll play a wacky
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Thunder where he's just going

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really big and over the top, but
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most part he's kind of your
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star.
He's almost setting up the other

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characters to be the big goofy.
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me because I can't remember a
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popular as comedians who played
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it's like, Oh yeah, whatever
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doing great work.

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He's just not as big and showy
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comedians have been.
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Larry Daly, he's like probably
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right?
Like super chill trying to

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figure things out in this movie.
He also just plays like really a

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millennial.
Like I don't know what I've got

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going, but I got to figure
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how different his life situation
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have in 2006, 'cause, 'cause
he's just like, hey, I'm in

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between jobs, I might have to
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all of the other adults in his
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what are you doing?
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seems like a wise financial
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I I, you know, I have to move
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live in Manhattan anymore.
But in in 2006, this guy was the

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lowest of the low societally.
It would have only gotten better

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if he had moved in with his,
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Like I'm moving back home with
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bit and we'll figure it out from
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I did.
I feel like we have to mention

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Paul Rudd for just a second here
because he is like if you want a

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new husband slash dad character
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kind of goofy and nice, I think
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for that role.
Well, and it's funny because he

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he looks slightly similar to Ben
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taller and he's better looking
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and so it works so well in this
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his wife just replaced him with
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With somebody who makes way more
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Way more money and has the old
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whole time and.
The the Dad Belt.

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Yeah, it's great, man.
On Ben Stiller, though, I guess

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one of my big notes that I would
give if I was helping with the

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screenplay here is they give him
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character.
Like the movie is basically,

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what if Ben Stiller was a night
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It's not really.
What if this guy Larry was like,

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there's just not much going on
here and you you kind of

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understand like, hey, he needs a
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his son.
So he feels desperate and takes

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this.
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the movie really feel like it's
just an excuse to get him into

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the museum.
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life outside the museum, I'm
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I could not care less like that
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Get back to the museum and let
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chase you around.
Come on, man, you you didn't

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like the The Walking across
Central Park in the fall with

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his son?
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the 1st 15 minutes that I'm like
this looks like it was shot in

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in 1994 like if you.
Kind of reminded me of When

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Harry Met Sally.
Yeah, like if you took any B

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grade Billy Crystal comedy like
My Giant and just like clipped

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out parts of that and put them
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They would look exactly the
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I think that the that when
they're walking through the the

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Central Park, though the sun
says just the most savage thing

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in the world.
He like looks at his dad and he

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goes, what if you're just
ordinary dad?

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What, what?
What if you just need to get a

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job.
Look, grow up, Peter Pan.

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Yeah, we've had multiple weeks
in a row of kids who suck on

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this podcast, and I wanted to
just be like, hey, F you kid

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like, he's doing his best man.
It's not like he's negligent.

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He's like showing up every week
to pick up his kid and his kids,

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like, Oh my gosh, you're a bum.
Everyone thinks Ben Stiller's a

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bum.
But I I do think you're being

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really harsh on, you know, the
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I mean, he has a real life.
OK guys, so we we have to we

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have to take time to acknowledge
that the night Guardsman has a

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day life.
He does.

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He is not defined by his work.
I like that you're using the

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word Guardsman like he's a part
of like the Scottish Royal Guard

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or something.
He has a flashlight, guys.

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So that's Ben Stiller.
I will say that the and this is

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going to be my recurring theme
on this movie.

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I texted Brad when I was one
hour into this movie.

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The first hour of this movie
feels like it needs to lose a

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full 20 minutes somewhere like
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It really drags.
And then when you actually get

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to the sort of like thwarting a
heist subplot at the end of the

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movie, it really picks up like I
I enjoyed the hell out of the

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last 40 minutes of this movie,
and I feel like they bring home

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the Ben Stiller character a
little bit.

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He actually gets to have human
emotions.

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He gets to do stuff that isn't
just exposition dumps, and I

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think he kind of earns his
paycheck there in the last half

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of the movie.
But, you know, for me, Stiller's

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character was probably the
weakest character in the movie,

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except for maybe Carla Gugino,
who's, you know, obligatory

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girlfriend figure.
I don't even know what her name

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was.
What was her name?

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Brad.
Rebecca.

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Sally.
I I don't know what her name

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was.
It was it was Rebecca.

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It really was Rebecca.
OK, Yeah.

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I just thought you were picking
a random name.

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Yeah.
I'm going to call her Sally.

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Then that's where we're.
That's over for Bob.

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It's a budding love interest,
right?

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So, you know, hey, I'm making
something of myself.

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I just got this new job and wow,
look at this scientist walking

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through.
And she goes, oh, did you always

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want to be a night security
guard?

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I've been dreaming about this
forever and waiting for this

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moment we when we met.
The great thing about female

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characters in 2006 is that they
never had a life outside of

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their job.
They were always consumed with

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their work.
And he's like, hey, what are you

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up to tonight?
And she's like me, I don't do

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anything at night.
OK.

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This this seems like the perfect
situation for you, Ben Stiller.

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All right.
Let's dive into the rest of this

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cast.
And I I guess we can go back to

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the old guy figures that we've
been talking about.

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Brad is this perhaps the best
Dick Van Dyke on film?

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My guy had freaking killed it in
this movie.

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He's incredible.
I mean, I like we loved him and

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Mary Poppins, a movie that
overall we are just OK on.

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But Bob, I'm I'm kind of with
you, man.

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Dick Van Dyke knocks it out of
the park in this movie.

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Yeah, he has charisma and
personality, along with being a

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little bit crotchety and then
towards the end, tons of energy.

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Clearly, you know, it's a plot
line, but I mean, I mean, he

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really is a great dynamic
character throughout the film.

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Whenever, whenever he pops in.
I do have a question for you

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guys.
So folks, you know you've heard

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Brad explain the movie, but by
the end of the film, the three

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Night Guardsmen who had preceded
Ben Stiller are all in cahoots

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to steal this priceless tablet,
old Egyptian tablet.

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And when they're revealing their
plot to Ben Stiller, when they

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have them like, locked in the
Brig or whatever they say, you

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know, we found out we were all
getting fired.

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And so we decided to, like, play
on this heist.

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What's going on with this
museum?

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Like, I don't understand exactly
like they're getting fired, but

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they had multiple days to, like,
train their replacements and

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they could just wander in and
out like freely.

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I have no idea, like, what's
actually going on here, Brad?

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Did I miss something?
No, that that is how America

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works.
When we fire people as a

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reduction area cost saving
measure, we just let them train

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the replacements.
Yeah, I also love that their

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solution was let's fire all
three guys who have years of

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tenure and replace him not with
just with one guy, but with one

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completely new person.
That seems like the logical step

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to take Who had.
One night of training.

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Not even a night of training,
technically.

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They just walked him around the
museum and then handed them a

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manual.
Guys, there are a number of HR

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teams that took direct notes
from this movie and we have seen

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them play out in the twenty 20s
consistently.

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That's the next think piece we
need to have written like did

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Night at the Museum wreck
corporate culture for decades

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afterwards?
It set the tone, man.

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OK.
Hey, wander around for a little

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bit.
You got this, but you're out in

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three days.
Get out of here.

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It reminds me of last week's
movie, Brad, The Chronicles of

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Narnia, where Peter kills one
wolf and then they're like,

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you're freaking king now, man,
you did it.

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Like you did it, you.
Can lead our army.

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That was a funny moment where
the wolf jumps on him, falls on

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his sword, and then Aslan is
like Rise Wolf Spain.

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Like, you can't.
You could make the argument that

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he didn't even kill the wolf.
That just kind of like it was a

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happy accident that resulted in
him being king.

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I love happy accidents like
killing wolves.

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They're very convenient when
they happen.

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Yeah.
All right, let's talk about the

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other figures that come alive in
this museum.

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So all of the many colorful
figures are played by great

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character actors, chief of which
is Robin Williams.

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Brad Back in, I think season
three, we did a Robin Williams

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mini marathon of movies.
But it's been a minute since we

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really talked about him and it
is just, it's such a welcome

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presence.
And the thing I love about Robin

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Williams is that I never think
that he's a limited actor.

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But no matter who he's playing,
he's always playing Robin

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Williams.
But you just love Robin Williams

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so much that it doesn't matter.
And he he's like the most kind

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of like nakedly vulnerable actor
that I think maybe we've ever

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talked about.
He just always seems to have

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instant access to the deepest
emotions and and every moment

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he's on screen feels powerful
because he's the one there doing

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it.
Yeah.

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Yeah, that he is.
I think this might be a weird

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description.
He's the warmest actor I think

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we've ever seen on screen.
Like every time he he comes into

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focus, you just have this sense
of like everything's going to be

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OK.
And I I don't know how he does

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it, but watching him in this, it
felt like it just confirmed for

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me that Robin Williams is a hell
of a good actor.

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And I and he doesn't need to be
anyone else.

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Like, he just needs to be him
and he's awesome.

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Yeah, He has this incredible
depth of like, character and

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presence that few people have.
And and to your point, and I

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think they even kind of
highlight this really well,

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yeah, he just has this energy
about him.

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And so when he is on screen,
it's like you, you have to pay

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attention, but it's because
you're really drawn in.

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And so for him to play like a
role as Teddy Roosevelt, who is,

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I think you know, in the mythos
of presidents, someone who

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people are like, oh man, that's,
that's the man, right.

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Like I think that's such a great
compliment and and such a great

449
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,440
casting for that character.
I I texted Bob like near the end

450
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,280
of the movie and I was like, I
think Robin Williams is the only

451
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:48,960
actor that could pull off
yelling Bully like multiple

452
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,440
times throughout the movie.
I don't know anybody else who

453
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,520
could say that one word line
like, authentically, but Robin

454
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,040
Williams pulls it off.
One of the things that I love

455
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,680
about him being in this movie is
that he is not the ideal choice

456
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,720
to play Teddy Roosevelt.
If you're just trying to

457
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,680
accurately capture Teddy
Roosevelt, you know what I mean?

458
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:13,240
And especially if they made this
movie today that is 100% a Nick

459
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,200
Offerman, Ron Swanson role.
Like he's he's definitely

460
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,000
playing Teddy Roosevelt.
But you put him in this movie

461
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,160
for two reasons, and I think
this is the key to me liking

462
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,400
this movie.
Brad in the first half of the

463
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,040
movie, he's in it for a few
scenes and he's just kind of

464
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,920
doing a Robin Williams bit, like
he's just going into character

465
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,880
and it's big and loud and brash
and you're like, OK, I guess

466
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,320
Robin Williams needed a
paycheck, and I'm cool with

467
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,640
that.
And then you get to the scene

468
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,840
where it makes sense why Robin
Williams actually wanted to take

469
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,120
this role.
And it was the scene that turned

470
00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:48,440
the whole movie for me.
It's when Ben Stiller's

471
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,240
character is at his lowest.
He's been locked in this kind of

472
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,600
jail cell by the security guards
who were stealing things from

473
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,200
the place.
And as Teddy Roosevelt, he comes

474
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,000
over and he talks about how, you
know, I'm not even really the

475
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,360
real Teddy Roosevelt.
I'm just a wax figure that comes

476
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:05,520
to life.
And that's why I'm not brave and

477
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,200
that's why I'm not this.
And he has this line where he

478
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,720
looks at Ben Stiller and ends
his monologue by saying I'm made

479
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,320
of wax.
Larry, what are you made of?

480
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,000
And dude, if that isn't the
moment that this movie

481
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,840
absolutely took off.
And it only works because Robin

482
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,800
Williams is so good in this
role.

483
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,400
Brad.
Yeah dude, there is so much

484
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,880
emotion at the end of this movie
and you don't expect it because

485
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,640
like you said, like I, you know,
to go back to Ben Stiller for

486
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,840
just a second, I actually really
like him overall throughout the

487
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,000
whole film.
I think that his interaction

488
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,760
with his ex-wife at the start of
the film is really endearing.

489
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,720
And and like, there's an
authenticity there where you

490
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,000
don't feel any ill will between
the two of them.

491
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,320
There's just a genuine tension
of like how do we raise our kid.

492
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,840
And so you have some emotional
core to this movie before that.

493
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,720
But you're right, man, when when
you know Robin Williams is

494
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,280
looking at Ben Stiller at
multiple points throughout the

495
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,600
movie and saying like, what kind
of a man are you?

496
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,480
Are you are you going to be a
man who takes the reins and

497
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,160
rises up to meet the occasion
And then But then he doesn't

498
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,080
just do that.
The key to that whole question

499
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:26,040
is he continually tells Ben
Stiller, and I think you can do

500
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,160
it.
And I think that's like, what

501
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,080
makes him so endearing is that
he's the dad that we all want in

502
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,760
our life.
To say, hey, what kind of a

503
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,240
person are you going to be?
Because if you're going to be a

504
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,840
great person, I could see that
in you.

505
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,960
I I could see that being real.
Yeah.

506
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,600
And I I think that is really the
challenge and opportunity and

507
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,720
really a kicking off of the
trilogy.

508
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,640
But I mean where you're seeing
this evolution of man and being

509
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,680
pushed into into that that next
step.

510
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:03,680
And I also just think that he he
he delivers that so well.

511
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,240
He he is that one person that
can deliver that message where

512
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,960
he can be super comedic one
moment, you know, part of the

513
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,080
ensemble for a little bit, have
a love interest with Sakajuiya

514
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,920
and still deliver this moment of
like inflection.

515
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,400
And I you know I've got you.
Yeah, and I think it's like Brad

516
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,560
to go back to last season when
we were doing our Chaplin

517
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,640
miniseries.
I really do think Robin Williams

518
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,920
is kind of the closest analogue
to a chaplain that we have or

519
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,560
that we had unfortunately in in
the modern day.

520
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,720
And it's because Chaplin can
make you laugh and then

521
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,920
immediately could make you cry.
And it's not just that he could

522
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,920
craft a moment as a director
that was that was sad.

523
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,320
It's that he is such a
vulnerable character as the

524
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,320
Tramp that you see him getting
hurt and there's something

525
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,920
within you that like there's a
protectiveness within you that's

526
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,760
like, I'm, I'm there with him.
I feel this with him.

527
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,360
And that's how Robin Williams
was all the time.

528
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,560
There's just like a woundedness
there and he brings it to every

529
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,680
character, but it also just
makes every single character

530
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,640
better.
Yeah, I mean there there is that

531
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,560
sense in the human experience
that that humor and sorrow can

532
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,280
occupy similar places that like
why does laughing sound so much

533
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,760
like crying?
And I I think that you're right,

534
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,560
man.
People like Charlie Chaplin,

535
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:26,440
people like Robin Williams
occupy that weird place of

536
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:32,240
sorrow and and joy that, you
know, he goes so deep into

537
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,040
sorrow.
And I and I think that's and I I

538
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,600
didn't expect to go this deep in
this, this episode guys.

539
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,000
But like, because of what we
know about Robin, Williams

540
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:47,200
struggles with depression and
the the depth to which he went

541
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,480
into sorrow, I I think it kind
of illustrates that reality that

542
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,680
the people who understand
suffering the most also can

543
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,320
understand joy and laughter the
most.

544
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,760
And and Williams brings that out
even in a somewhat silly

545
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,520
children's movie like Night at
the Museum.

546
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,080
Well, and to take that a step
further, he knows how to bring

547
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:12,080
it out in other people.
And so as a compliment, it's

548
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,800
like out of that output, the
result is lifting other people

549
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,600
up.
And and you see that across like

550
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,880
all Robin Williams movies to
some degree.

551
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,680
And to nail it here in this like
very character, character

552
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:33,600
caricature, heavy space as Teddy
Roosevelt nails it right.

553
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,160
Yeah, he's a really generous
actor in that way where Ben

554
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,320
Stiller has ample opportunities
with his ex-wife, with his kid,

555
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,000
where people are saying hurtful
things for you to see, like a

556
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,200
woundedness in him.
And it doesn't really work

557
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,400
because you know, the the kid
that plays his son is not a very

558
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,640
good actor.
But then you see Robin Williams

559
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,200
do it, and they cut back to Ben
Stiller, and it's almost like

560
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,000
being across from Robin Williams
and seeing him do it, unlock

561
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,840
something in Stiller's
character, too.

562
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,240
Guys, we we've gone long on
Robin Williams.

563
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,600
I want to hit a couple of more
of these characters before we

564
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,760
get to break.
So you've got Owen Wilson and

565
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,920
Steve Coogan as warring Cowboys
and Roman centurions.

566
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,960
I think they're great and they
do a really good job.

567
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,200
Shawn Levy does a good job with
letting some of these smaller

568
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,320
characters improv a bit, and you
can kind of feel the shagginess

569
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,480
of their moments because they're
just riffing.

570
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,440
There's a great moment where Ben
Stiller's like, look back there

571
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,840
at the Mayans that I had to put
behind the glass.

572
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,480
Do they look happy?
And they cut back to Owen Wilson

573
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,040
and they're like, no, no.
And you can tell they just let

574
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,640
the camera go a little bit
longer and Owen Wilson goes,

575
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,800
they look sad.
It was a few moments that made

576
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,160
me really laugh out loud and I
just love that he does that with

577
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,200
a few of these characters.
And I think it's I I think that

578
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:55,080
that is a perfect encapsulation
of like what the moments of this

579
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,360
movie that are great, Like those
are the things that make this

580
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,480
movie great is when you have
these little tiny characters,

581
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,600
not not just tiny as in little
teeny tiny figurines like Owen

582
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,840
Wilson and Steve Coogan, but
when you let the little

583
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,600
characters have moments of just
being funny.

584
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,080
You know, I I think that you see
that with Brad Garrett as the

585
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:23,560
the Easter Island statue head.
Like he he just has some moments

586
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,920
where the way he interacts with
Ben Stiller just make you laugh

587
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,560
out loud.
And I I I think that's where

588
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:36,160
this movie really shines.
Give me gum gum dum dum I you

589
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,760
know I.
And I think that yeah you're

590
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:45,120
introduced it and then the
introductory kind of tore around

591
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,040
the museum.
You're almost given an insight

592
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,360
into oh you're going to get to
know all of these characters

593
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,360
right.
Like you're walking it through

594
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,760
the museum.
They're stable or dead now, but

595
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:01,120
you just wait what's coming.
And then all of these, all of

596
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,640
these characters get a moment or
two to kind of shine.

597
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,120
And they they kind of fit all
those moments in such a way that

598
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,880
it works out.
But it could be some pretty

599
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,080
broken moments too that they
just kind of figured out how to

600
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,880
work it in.
Well, I'll go back really quick

601
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,080
to what you said at the start.
Bob, the opening sequence of

602
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,880
this movie sets you up as a
viewer for where you're going to

603
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,520
be going in this film.
And and all of the major, you

604
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,200
know, side characters that come
to life throughout the movie,

605
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,280
you see all of them in the
opening credits and and it

606
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,320
builds in this intrigue and
mystique and I wonder what, you

607
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,280
know, these Huns are going to do
in the caveman in the Easter

608
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,600
Island statue.
And and it kind of slowly starts

609
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:51,480
to evoke that that curiosity in
the viewer that gets rewarded

610
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,840
later in the film.
Yeah, I mean, the concept of

611
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,920
this movie is one of the most
brilliant, just just as an idea.

612
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,200
And I think that's why I wanted
more of just like give me Night

613
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,360
at the Museum.
Like, don't call your movie this

614
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,880
unless you're willing to just go
all in because they do a great

615
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,440
job.
Like you said Lee setting up OK

616
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,600
we're going to go to this
exhibit and talk about this and

617
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,239
it it reminds me a lot of my my
all time favorite film, Jurassic

618
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,400
Park where you get the
introduction to like, hey the

619
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,560
velociraptors.
They've been testing the fence

620
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:24,800
strategically.
So you know when the fence goes

621
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,440
down, like stuff's going to get
real.

622
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:28,800
Here's the T Rex, here's where
this thing is, and you get the

623
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,719
whole tour before stuff goes S
The great thing with this movie

624
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,679
is it's like, what if Jurassic
Park got mashed up with Home

625
00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:39,480
Alone?
And so you have the Defending

626
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,360
your house, but your house is
Jurassic Park.

627
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,520
It's like it's such a brilliant
concept for a movie.

628
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,120
And I think by the time all the
threads come together at the

629
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,000
end, it really is clicking.
And you also just have great

630
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,560
little moments, like them trying
to let the air out of the tire

631
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,400
in the van and they like, stab
it with a spear and they're so

632
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,200
tiny that they're all getting
blown away.

633
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:04,040
It's just little things like
that that make me chuckle, yeah.

634
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,920
All right, guys, I think we're
in a good spot to hit pause.

635
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,840
We'll come back.
We'll finish out talking about

636
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,000
this massive cast and then how
the movie worked for us.

637
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,920
But before we get there, let's
try this.

638
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,520
Lost Monarch?
What do you say?

639
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,560
Sounds great I I am so stoked
for this bottle.

640
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,720
All right everybody.
Today we are drinking a whiskey

641
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:30,320
from a a distillery that we have
not reviewed before.

642
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,200
Bob, this is called Redwood
Empire.

643
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,360
It's based out of California as
you might imagine and we are

644
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,280
reviewing their lost Monarch
whiskey.

645
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,720
This is a blend of straight
whiskeys that comes in at I

646
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:50,680
believe 90 proof and this one is
a blend of 60% rye whiskey and

647
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,560
40% bourbon whiskey.
And even that bourbon whiskey is

648
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,720
a high Rye's, it's got 21% rye
in it.

649
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:03,080
So we're looking at essentially
A heavily rye blended whiskey.

650
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,000
I don't see, let's see, it's a
blend of four to 12 year old

651
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,120
bourbon and three to five year
old rye, so.

652
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,760
So it's got a little bit of age
to it.

653
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,080
Yeah, we've had multiple
distillers tell us before too,

654
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,360
that rye tends to mature quicker
in the barrel than bourbon does

655
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,480
in terms of how it tastes.
It doesn't taste young for as

656
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,520
long, so if you're going to go
young somewhere, I'd rather you

657
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,600
go young on the rye than on the
bourbon.

658
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,560
I'm really looking forward to
this man.

659
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,400
And I was.
I was messaging Lee a couple

660
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,560
days ago.
I asked him which of these

661
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,200
whiskeys that we had lined up
for the season would you like to

662
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,000
do today, And he picked this
one.

663
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,800
And I told him I've never ever
tried a Redwood Empire product.

664
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,880
I think partially because we
knew we'd get around to doing

665
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,160
them on the show someday.
They're all really affordable.

666
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,640
They have beautiful artwork.
So I, you know, I've had my eye

667
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,480
on them for years and years.
Lee, you are just unlocking

668
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,600
things for me today.
I've never seen this movie.

669
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,160
I've never drank this whiskey.
This is a big deal, man.

670
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,560
Yeah and and for me the the
connection to the movie is, is

671
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,960
really fun.
So if you look on all of the

672
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:09,120
labels for for Redwood Empire,
there is a a nod to John Mirror

673
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:15,520
who was really this ultra
conservationalist that then

674
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:21,040
inspired Teddy Roosevelt and
helped with the development of

675
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,280
the National Park system.
In fact, John Muir founded the

676
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,960
National Park System and Sierra
Club and then inspired Teddy

677
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,760
Roosevelt.
I think there's actually a story

678
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,880
about them camping in Yosemite
for like 3 or 4 days and that's

679
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,360
where he really got the
inspiration for like, oh, we

680
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,280
need to really work to protect
and set aside these places.

681
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,040
So I thought this would be fun.
It's a nice little nod that ties

682
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,280
in.
Absolutely.

683
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,880
Look at Lee doing his homework
more than you and I have done,

684
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,800
Brad.
Doing our job for us, Bob.

685
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:53,960
All right, guys, let's dive into
this.

686
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,560
Brad, I know that you've already
sampled it.

687
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,440
I'm drinking it live on air.
I think Lee is as well.

688
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:04,080
Give us that bottle pop, Lee.
All right, Ten out of 10W.

689
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,560
We've done it.
Brad, while we go ahead and nose

690
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,160
this, why don't you give us your
nosing notes?

691
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:16,440
Yeah, as I as I got into the
nose here there is there are

692
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,400
some really nice rye forward
notes that I'm getting it It's a

693
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,240
little bit dill there's some
vanilla, it's a little bit

694
00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:27,200
minty.
I I really kept searching for

695
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:32,000
those bourbon notes but couldn't
quite find them like maybe some

696
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,880
hints of brown sugar but but
it's a little tough to find it.

697
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:40,720
It definitely comes across much
more strongly rye forward and I

698
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:47,320
I will say despite this being a
blend of at minimum three-year

699
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:52,280
whiskey, I I felt like there was
some young graininess, some

700
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,520
ethanol here that I was a little
surprised by for the proof

701
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,120
point.
That kind of lowered my score

702
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,960
just a little bit, but I'm
coming to a six out of 10 here.

703
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,600
Yeah.
Now I have not given it a sip

704
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,080
yet, so I'm going just on the
nose here.

705
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,040
But I'm in a very different
place than you, Brad.

706
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,400
This is really pleasantly sweet
on the nose.

707
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,080
There's a lot of like, you're
right, like a younger bourbon on

708
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,640
the nose here, but I don't get a
lot of like raw corn.

709
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,160
It just kind of reminds me of
that sort of simple syrup note

710
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,880
that we get sometimes on younger
bourbons.

711
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:23,240
The problem is, every time I
kind of agitate it in the glass

712
00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:26,200
when I'm swirling it, that's
when the rye notes come out and

713
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,320
there is a mint note here, but
it almost smells like a like a

714
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,240
mint that's gone sour.
There's like a just a a touch of

715
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:36,880
an off note here.
Not quite chemically, but

716
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,800
something's just a little bit
concerning to me.

717
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,960
I like it for the most part, but
I'm going to give it a 7 out of

718
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,120
10 on the nose.
Yeah.

719
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,000
And I I'll be probably a little
bit in the middle of both of you

720
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:54,080
because I think that I get a lot
of those right forward notes.

721
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,240
And then I also get a touch of
like brown sugar and honey,

722
00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:04,520
which I do think is some of that
bourbon coming out in a way, but

723
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,000
it's probably.
It's a it's a little bit muddled

724
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,520
because it is so rye forward,
but I agree there's like this

725
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:17,120
off spearmint note in there that
you're like, oh this is a little

726
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,640
funky.
I can't tell if I love it or not

727
00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:26,840
since this is my first nosing.
I would also be in that 7 range,

728
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:31,200
but it it's a lot to explore.
I need this to sit, I think, and

729
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,160
breathe for a little bit.
Last year I got the brilliant

730
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:39,360
idea of hey, why are they always
adding fresh mint to bourbons

731
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,560
when they're making mint juleps?
I'm just going to take a big

732
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,720
sprig of mint and put it in a
bottle of bourbon and just let

733
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:48,000
it absorb the mint oils for like
4 days.

734
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:49,920
And then I realized why they
don't do that.

735
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,640
It's because the mint goes real
sour and gross after a couple

736
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,880
days and I I I got a little bit
of that on the nose here.

737
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,920
Now when I get into the palate,
Brad, I think the the front of

738
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:02,560
my palate is really pleasant.
I get a lot of those honey notes

739
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,720
that Lee's been referring to,
but when you kick it to the back

740
00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:09,520
of your pallet, there is
something about kind of cheap

741
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,400
rye that I don't really know how
to explain how I know it's cheap

742
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,880
until you get there.
It's very herbal, It's really

743
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,160
bitter, and I think that the
aggressiveness of the youth here

744
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,040
on the rye really comes out at
the back of my pallet and it

745
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,280
just almost feels like they're
trying to cover up the youth of

746
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,480
their rye with a pretty nice
bourbon on top of it.

747
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,400
I don't think it's bad, but I
also, it's almost like I can see

748
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,520
the seams of where they sewed
this thing up.

749
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,840
I'm just going to give it a six
out of 10 on the on the pallet.

750
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,880
Yeah, I I'm at a 5 1/2 on the
pallet.

751
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,400
I I get dill, I get some salted
butter at the front.

752
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,760
That's kind of a nice creamy
experience.

753
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,600
But overall that you're right,
it becomes herbaceous at the

754
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,480
back end and and not in a way
that I'm like super pumped

755
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,320
about.
Once again, it it is not bad,

756
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:06,480
but it's not something that it
feels intentional enough and

757
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,360
complex enough, and it doesn't
feel like it just has quite

758
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,760
enough flavor for me to give it
a high score.

759
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,480
Yeah, I think that it isn't
complex, actually.

760
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,360
It's it is like whatever you get
on the front end of your palate,

761
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,120
it's basically what it is.
And then it kind of dies out.

762
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:32,120
Doesn't linger too long either.
I think that the rye is fun

763
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,000
though.
Like there's there are certain

764
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:41,560
whiskey buyers that like just
kind of unique, funky, kind of

765
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,640
elemental, weird whiskeys that
you could have a lot of fun

766
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,440
with.
I think this is one of those

767
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,520
where you would be like let me
show you all of the kind of

768
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,880
unusual things Ryze can do or
blends can do and this is 1

769
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,800
where you'd be like you're never
going to expect this.

770
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:02,960
Try this one and I think this is
a really fun like comparative

771
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:08,720
rye where I'd put this next to a
95.5 and and see how people kind

772
00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:11,240
of what do you enjoy?
What do you not enjoy?

773
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,560
Yeah, I like that.
Lee And I will say, I don't

774
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,640
think this is a great whiskey,
but I also wouldn't recommend

775
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,520
this as a mixer.
I think it's way better.

776
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,440
Neat because there's something
about that funky note we're

777
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,040
getting here that if you if you
put this in a coke or something

778
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,040
like it would just completely
disappear.

779
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,240
It would taste like just you
added vodka almost.

780
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:35,920
I think whatever is here, it
it's not complex like you said

781
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,800
Lee, but it is subtle enough
that I think it does merit

782
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,000
drinking it neat.
Brad on the finish.

783
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,320
I think that herbal note lingers
a little bit longer than I'd

784
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,480
like it to.
The second and third sip were

785
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,280
considerably better here than
the first sip was for me.

786
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,520
But overall, I just think this
is an above average to average

787
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,520
whiskey.
I'm going to give it a 6 1/2 out

788
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,320
of 10 on the finish.
Yeah, I'm at a 6 1/2 as well.

789
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,680
There's some rye.
It gets into a little bit of a

790
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,920
nuttiness, a little bit of like
an almond flavor at the very

791
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,280
end.
For me it gets a little bit

792
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:13,920
peppery but overall it kind of
stays in that that rye strong

793
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,720
ending.
But it is a nice medium bodied

794
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:23,160
finish that I I gave a 6 1/2 to.
I I the finish was the one point

795
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,880
of this where I kind of felt
like it deserved a little

796
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,640
credit.
Yeah, and there's this actual

797
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:34,360
fun like herbal tea note that I
think is on that finish along

798
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,040
with like that roasted nutty
note as well.

799
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:43,800
So I I think actually the finish
is probably my favorite quality

800
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,320
in this whiskey.
And actually on the finish, it

801
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,800
makes me want to go back and and
have another sip and be like,

802
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,640
did I misunderstand what was
happening here?

803
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,360
Because I actually really enjoy,
like how it's lingering a little

804
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:03,000
bit, but it makes me say like,
oh, maybe I just misinterpreted,

805
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,440
you know, that that first sip,
which I didn't, but.

806
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,920
Should be clear.
I was correct the whole time.

807
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,120
That's correct, Brad said salted
butter at one point.

808
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,480
And I think that did kind of
unlock something for me here.

809
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,480
I think the mouth feels really
nice and it is, it is buttery.

810
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,000
It reminds me a little bit on
the tip of my palate of the the

811
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,960
buttered popcorn Jelly belly,
which is very divisive but also

812
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,560
like one of my favorite Jelly
bellies.

813
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,240
So I'll take it.
I think that the balance here,

814
00:45:33,240 --> 00:45:37,080
Brad, the the experience from
nose to taste to finish is

815
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,560
fairly consistent and I think
I'll give it a 7 out of 10 here.

816
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,040
Yeah, I I'm with you.
I I actually gave it a 7 out of

817
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,960
10 as well.
I I I don't think that this this

818
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,320
is definitely not a poorly made
whiskey like like you can tell

819
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,320
that there's some craft going on
here and that they were blending

820
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,160
for specific things.
I just don't know if it's

821
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,480
blended for a mass audience, you
know what I mean?

822
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,320
Yeah.
This is really one blended for

823
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:10,800
people who want to get into the
nuances of whiskey and blending.

824
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,800
Like, I don't, I don't think
your masses are going to want

825
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,560
this as a rye or a bourbon,
having both in there because I

826
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,160
don't think it's like distinct
enough.

827
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:26,320
But as a rye, I do think you get
those core notes throughout.

828
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,640
And the bourbon, thank you for
telling me there was bourbon in

829
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,760
here because I would not know
it, right.

830
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,880
So thank you Bourbon, for being
somewhere helping fill this

831
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,880
bottle.
Brad, what would a bottle of

832
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,480
this cost you in the state of
Ohio?

833
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,680
Well, they don't sell
specifically the Lost Monarch,

834
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:51,840
but a bottle of Redwood Empire
is about 35 to $40 in the state

835
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,960
of Ohio.
And the best I could tell for

836
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:59,240
Lost Monarch at large was that
range $3540.00.

837
00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:03,320
So you're looking at I mean at
this point Bob with with the way

838
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:08,680
prices have gone up about that
midline mid level price you're

839
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,320
going to spend on a whiskey?
I mean, you know, my baseline

840
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,560
for $35 is always Elijah Craig.
Like, is this a similar value to

841
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,040
Elijah Craig?
How dare you?

842
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,480
And like, you know, I think it
is, man, there's two ways to

843
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,240
look at this when they're
blending stuff.

844
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,480
Either you look at it as you
know this massive company is

845
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,360
just dumping stuff in a bottle
and giving a swill or you look

846
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,160
at it as there's some craft
behind the blending and I choose

847
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,640
to look at it that way.
I think when you factor in their

848
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,480
their labor here and the fact
that they are a smaller

849
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,640
operation, $35 is not out of
range for this at all.

850
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,760
I'm going to give it a 7.5 out
of 10 on value Brad.

851
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:53,640
I think for me, I I'm with you
that for for what the operation

852
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,520
is and what they're putting out.
I think it's a decent price.

853
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,760
My only problem with it is that
the whiskey itself isn't great

854
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,000
and that's the struggle I'm
having with giving it.

855
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,520
I I think that this is a subpar
whiskey compared to something

856
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,000
like an Elijah Craig, especially
compared to like just like a

857
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,040
baseline Woodford.
I I just don't think that this

858
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,760
stands up.
And so I'm going to give it.

859
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,560
I think I'm going to give it
like a 5 out of 10 on value,

860
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:23,280
Bob.
Wow.

861
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:28,360
OK.
I think there's a regionality to

862
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,240
whiskey that we're really
starting to explore as kind of

863
00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:35,960
the whiskey community grows.
And so I think some of that is

864
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,240
in this bottle of like
california-based and trying to

865
00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:43,440
get some of those nuances of the
regionality of you know, of the

866
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,120
space.
So I think it is a really fun

867
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,040
kind of exploration of like
Northern California Whiskey.

868
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,760
There are a few others that I
actually enjoy a little bit more

869
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,080
in that space.
But I think like the regionality

870
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:02,000
is really fun to explore at that
price point.

871
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,560
It would be one that I'm like if
I was on the fence, I would, I

872
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,840
would buy it, right, Because I
want to kind of expand from my

873
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,840
core.
But to your point, the core is

874
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,160
the core because it's those
bottles are so good, like the

875
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,920
Elijah Craig's, the Woodford's,
the old Foresters and makers.

876
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,680
Like those are the ones that
people return to because they're

877
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:30,520
consistently good at that price
point and they deliver every

878
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,200
time.
This is where you're like, I

879
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,120
want to play with nuance at that
same price point.

880
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,520
Yeah, not everybody's in on
that.

881
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,520
Brad G out on nuance.
Let it be known.

882
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,560
Folks, no nuance.
None at all, friends.

883
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,200
Brad, what's your final score on
Lost Monarch?

884
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,000
I'm coming to a 30 out of 50
Bob.

885
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:55,120
OK, I'm at a 34, so that brings
us to a 32 out of 50 or just a

886
00:49:55,120 --> 00:50:00,640
64 out of 100.
It is slightly below where we

887
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,800
like to start recommending a
product.

888
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,160
I actually don't think this is
bad enough to not recommend like

889
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,280
I I think I enjoyed myself
drinking this.

890
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,840
It also may just be the company
that we have today Brad.

891
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:15,600
So I'll give it a like a slight
Joaquin Phoenix and gladiator

892
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,920
like thumbs up.
Yeah, just barely.

893
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:19,160
Yeah.
Yeah.

894
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,920
I think I'm with you.
I, for the price point, it's not

895
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,520
worth completely passing over.
So like if this was $10 more, I

896
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,920
would say pass at the price
point.

897
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,120
I'd say if you're interested in
it like you like, Lee said.

898
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,280
If you're interested in trying
new regions of whiskey in

899
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,720
America, go for it.
All right, so that was Redwood

900
00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:45,040
Empire, Lost Monarch, the first
Redwood Empire we've had on the

901
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,360
show.
And Brad, apparently for you, it

902
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,200
can only go up from here.
So we're hoping to have some

903
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,720
more Redwood Empire on the show
soon.

904
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,160
Let us know what you think of
this whiskey if you've tried it

905
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,200
before.
I'd like to kind of feel out

906
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:58,880
what the general public thinks
of this one.

907
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,040
But Brad, we need to get back
into talking about night at the

908
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,280
museum.
What do you say?

909
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:10,040
Let's get to it.
All right, everybody.

910
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,960
That was Redwood Empire lost.
Monarch.

911
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,160
A whiskey that was drank by all
three of us.

912
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:20,200
It.
It sure was, and good times were

913
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,600
had by all.
They were unique.

914
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:27,360
It like interesting I I I I
guess it was a pleasant but

915
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,760
strange experience.
Sure, I valued the conversation.

916
00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:36,520
All right.
Well, Speaking of things that

917
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:41,680
are often a strange experience,
Brad, I am 11:00 and 7:00 on the

918
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,520
season at our next game here,
which we call 2 facts and a

919
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,560
falsehood.
Brad is going to try to stump

920
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,560
your ball.
To.

921
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:57,320
A right and what is wrong?
2 facts and a falsehood. 2 Facts

922
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,080
and A Falsehood is the part of
the show where Brad presents me

923
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,080
with three items as fact about
the making of this movie, one of

924
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:08,360
which is a complete lie.
Brad man, I am on a losing

925
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,600
streak here overall.
It also doesn't help that I kind

926
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,480
of have to take the opinion of
our guest every time we have a

927
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,920
guest because you have
implemented these strict

928
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:23,720
draconian rules where if the
guest talks at all, you're

929
00:52:23,720 --> 00:52:28,160
considering that guest input.
And I, being the editor of these

930
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,040
episodes, know that we don't
want to let the guest not talk

931
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,400
for seven minutes in a row.
So way to go, man.

932
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,040
You have.
You've set it up for yourself

933
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,560
very nicely.
Here, Bob, I have not been that

934
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,200
draconian about this, and if you
want to interpret it that way,

935
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,880
that's fine with me.
I I'm OK with that.

936
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,840
Anytime that you have to start a
sentence with I have not been

937
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,600
that draconian.
That's pretty a little bit.

938
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,880
Moderately draconian.
All right, Brad, hit me with

939
00:52:55,880 --> 00:53:00,160
your two facts and a falsehood.
Fact #1, famous for his later

940
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,440
role as Freddie Mercury in
Bohemian Rhapsody Night at the

941
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,320
Museum, was actually Rami
Malek's film debut.

942
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,600
Fact #2A, Full wax statue of
Robin Williams as Teddy

943
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,440
Roosevelt was commissioned for
the film.

944
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,640
Williams enjoyed performing in
the film so much that director

945
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,560
Sean Levy gave it to him as a
gift after the filming finished

946
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,160
Fact #3.
Despite their respective careers

947
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,440
of more than 50 years each, this
is only the second time that

948
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,600
Mickey Rooney and Dick Van Dyke
have worked together, their

949
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,800
first movie being The comic from
1969.

950
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,480
I have no idea about the comic
from 1969.

951
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:42,880
I don't even know if that's a
real movie.

952
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,280
Rami Malek.
Was he in a movie before this?

953
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,400
I don't know that either.
These are pretty good, man, I'm

954
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,680
not going to lie.
I'm just trying to stay silent.

955
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,880
I think that #2 sounds the most
plausible.

956
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,440
I feel like Robin Williams is
the kind of guy who would have a

957
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,480
wax statue of himself in his
possession just for kicks.

958
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,560
With a giant mustache.
Yeah, of course.

959
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,880
It had to have been made because
we do see a wax statue version

960
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:12,160
of Robin Williams in the movie,
so we at least know that a

961
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,640
statue had to be made.
The question is, did it go to

962
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,080
his house as a gift?
Great question, man.

963
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,080
All right, I'm going to just say
for the sake of argument that #3

964
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:27,600
is true, just because I have no
way to know without cheating

965
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,160
whether that movie is real.
So I'm going to say it's true.

966
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:36,600
So it's either Rami Malek or
it's Robin Williams.

967
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,480
Now, folks, the way we've done
this normally is if I have a

968
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,440
guest and I seek the guests
input, I only get one victory if

969
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,040
we win, but I get 2 losses if we
lose.

970
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,680
Dang.
Double the brain power, double

971
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,400
the Li.
Feel pretty?

972
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,520
I'm on shaking ground here.
I'm already leaning towards an L

973
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,880
You might as well join me.
Let's go down together here.

974
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,600
I'm.
I wouldn't need phone a friend.

975
00:55:01,720 --> 00:55:03,560
I mean, I guess I am yours.
A friend?

976
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,440
Yes.
No, I I never mind.

977
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,240
I take it back.
I'm not seeking your input

978
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:11,000
anymore.
Can a friend phone a friend of a

979
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,440
friend because it's?
A whole network here.

980
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:20,600
I I feel like Robbie Malik.
I don't remember him in anything

981
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:26,120
previous to this film.
Now I remember him in plenty of

982
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,760
films following this and I just
don't know if that's just bad

983
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,960
memory or this is all I paid
attention.

984
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,560
To can iPhone a friend.
All right, so let's say, for the

985
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,600
sake of argument, then, that
this is also Rami Malek's first

986
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,000
film.
That would mean the Robin

987
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,120
Williams one is the falsehood.
Oh gosh.

988
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:52,960
Yeah, probably.
I I mean, I that's probably the

989
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,760
most likely to be false.
My favorite of having guests on

990
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,280
is that Bob doesn't have to talk
in circles around himself.

991
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,320
I can help I.
I just talk in circles with

992
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:04,720
another.
Person with another person.

993
00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:09,720
Where you start with #2 is
absolutely the one that is true,

994
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,840
and by the end you're like no,
no, no, no, no.

995
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:18,640
If I had to, if I went with my
gut, I would say I think one is

996
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,120
the falsehood.
My gut has proven me wrong.

997
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,240
Brad, you, like, literally
commented on this, 'cause I

998
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:27,400
changed my gut the other week.
And you're like, it's a good

999
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:28,560
thing that you don't listen to
your gut.

1000
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,320
So I'm gonna go with Lee.
Don't go with Lee.

1001
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:32,480
Oh.
No, I think.

1002
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,960
I think #1 will be the falsehood
there is.

1003
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:41,240
So there are so many like child
actors who are in things that

1004
00:56:41,240 --> 00:56:45,080
you would not expect it.
But, like, do we know that he

1005
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,360
was one?
No, of course not.

1006
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:56,760
Like baby Rami Malek, just all
right, I'm going to say let's

1007
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,320
freaking do it.
Let's do Robin Williams.

1008
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:03,320
Let's do #2.
Wait, wait, Brad, if if I don't

1009
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:07,120
go with Lee on this, do I still
get 2 losses?

1010
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,240
Oh, good question.
So, I so that we'll, we'll,

1011
00:57:11,240 --> 00:57:14,240
we'll suss this out, Lee, are
you saying that number one is

1012
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:17,880
the falsehood in your opinion?
I am going with #1 is the

1013
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,640
falsehood and I want AW for life
after this.

1014
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,680
Lee, you always have AW for life
for me, yes.

1015
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,280
All right.
So then, yes, I'll say #2 is the

1016
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,840
falsehood, because either way,
I'd be wrong and I'd only get

1017
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,320
one loss.
So I'm going to say Robin

1018
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:33,480
Williams is false.
Brad.

1019
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:39,920
Guys, that was the best, most
roundabout way of getting to the

1020
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:45,560
correct answer.
I did it, Bob.

1021
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,800
It's an L for life, baby.
Bob looks like he just solved A

1022
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:54,400
Rubik's Cube for the first time.
So, Rami Malek's first film.

1023
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,680
Yeah, this is his absolute first
film.

1024
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,960
Incredible.
Let's talk about that for a

1025
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,120
second, because we need to
finish talking about this cast

1026
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,160
real quick.
And I only have a couple more

1027
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:04,880
people, Rami Malek being one of
them.

1028
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,240
He is perfectly fine in this
movie.

1029
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:12,280
But you know, Brad, sometimes we
say like, oh, I am in on Robin

1030
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,760
Williams in whatever movie,
whenever he comes on screen, I

1031
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,960
am all in.
I didn't realize how out I am on

1032
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,560
Rami Malek until he showed up in
this movie, 'cause I was like,

1033
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,800
I'm texting you saying, man,
this movie is really picking up,

1034
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,600
this is spectacular.
And then The Mummy unwraps his

1035
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,640
head and it's Rami Malek.
And I was like, ah, come on.

1036
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,720
Man.
And he he spits out that dust

1037
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,360
and you're like, oh, I can't
wait for his first line.

1038
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,800
Oh my gosh, I'm just so excited.
There's just something about him

1039
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:46,240
that's like, I don't know if he
was an actor in the 90s, he

1040
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,200
would be like Steve Buscemi,
Like he would only be the

1041
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,400
quirky, eccentric character
because he has these weird tics.

1042
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:56,160
But somehow we've made him the
leading Oscar winning man.

1043
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,720
And I look at it now and I'm
like, you had the career that

1044
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,400
Steve deserved, man.
I will.

1045
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:06,120
I will give Rami credit.
He is much better looking than

1046
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:11,040
Steve Buscemi.
But similarly eccentric?

1047
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,360
You know what I mean?
I would say Steve Buscemi is the

1048
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:18,520
better actor.
Like, like probably by far, but

1049
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,960
Rabbi is rabbi's better looking
than than Buscemi.

1050
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,120
So they each have their one
thing that they get.

1051
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:30,560
Yeah, they do.
Lee, any comments on Rami Malek

1052
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:35,480
as Pharaoh in this movie?
I think that they tried to find

1053
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:39,280
somebody that looked the part as
much as possible, missed

1054
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:43,200
terribly, but still got somebody
who is OK at the role.

1055
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,800
Fun fact, he was born in
California, but he is of

1056
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,800
Egyptian like both of his
parents are Egyptian.

1057
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,720
Oh man, Lee just continues
taking L's here.

1058
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:58,680
Man Double L Jeez Louise.
Oh man.

1059
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,680
All right.
Last person that I think we

1060
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,400
should mention briefly is Ricky
Gervais, who I think benefits

1061
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,360
the most from Shawn Levy,
letting him riff because his

1062
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:11,200
entire character is saying.
Nonsense things and starting

1063
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,600
sentences and not ending them.
And I have to be honest, it

1064
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,880
seems like the kind of bit that
would get old really quick, and

1065
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,680
it was consistently the funniest
bit in the whole movie to me.

1066
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,560
I just, I really love Ricky
Gervais here.

1067
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,120
Yeah, I'm, I'm with you 100%,
man.

1068
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:31,560
He he has a talent for being
outraged and clueless all at the

1069
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,520
same time throughout this entire
film, and even at the end, like

1070
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:40,360
when he looks around at the
completely full museum and like,

1071
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,200
doesn't say anything, he just
hands the keys and the

1072
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,720
flashlight back.
It's a brilliant moment of

1073
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:47,920
acting like it's.
So.

1074
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,440
Good.
Yeah, I so I'm I'm all in on

1075
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,920
Ricky Gervais in this movie.
He is by far the best movie

1076
01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:01,440
museum curator I've ever seen.
No, I think he adds.

1077
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:06,880
Like this little comedy touch in
this like AB exchange with Ben

1078
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,240
Stiller periodically through the
movie and I think what's really

1079
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:14,080
fun is getting beyond this movie
and they still keep, they bring

1080
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,160
him back constantly.
I think they they saw they

1081
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:21,320
struck A chord and had this
great interaction that they

1082
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,800
wanted to to maintain, which was
super fun.

1083
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,480
How many museum curators have
there been in movies?

1084
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,400
Oh, you know what, Brad?
The animated movie Curious

1085
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:35,120
George, you know who's, who's
the old man in charge of the

1086
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:36,880
museum in that movie?
Dick Van Dyke.

1087
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,880
Dick Van Dyke, baby.
Oh, really?

1088
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,000
It all comes back around.
Whoa.

1089
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:42,640
That was a legitimate guest
spot.

1090
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,920
Well, on that note guys, let's
get into our last segment of the

1091
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,360
day, which we call, let's make
it a double.

1092
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,800
We're near the end of the
episodes of Thanks for Listening

1093
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,800
to the Film and Whiskey Show.
Let's pair another film with

1094
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,240
this one, even if it's
struggling.

1095
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,800
It's a final segment of the day.
Now let's make it a double.

1096
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,920
Let's make it a double is the
part of the show where we pick a

1097
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,960
movie to pair up with this one
to make the perfect double

1098
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,240
feature.
Brad, I think there's a lot of

1099
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,480
directions you could go here.
You could, you could go with

1100
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,320
Curious George if you're big on
museums.

1101
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,440
I think that, you know, I
already mentioned Home Alone I

1102
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:16,760
think would be a great one for
this.

1103
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,080
I think Jurassic Park actually
has parallels here, but I'm

1104
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,840
really anxious to hear what both
of your picks are.

1105
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,200
We as our guest.
Why don't you go first?

1106
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,720
Oh my gosh, I I was worried I
would have to go first.

1107
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:34,080
So I think that my compliment,
my double feature for this would

1108
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,000
actually be National Treasure.
Oh, nice.

1109
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:42,280
Let's go from experiencing a
museum as as the night guardsmen

1110
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:48,880
to essentially terrorizing a few
museums in this epic adventure

1111
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,720
of solving and finding the lost
treasure.

1112
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,880
Right?
Like, I think those are really

1113
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:59,120
fun of like, what if the museum
came to life and then you get

1114
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:03,600
into what if there were still
secrets to be found in these

1115
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,280
museums?
And they're they're also just

1116
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:10,800
both of an era like I I want to
say that that probably came out

1117
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:16,080
in in a similar like 2005 to
2008 range, am I right?

1118
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,440
Yeah, I think the first National
treasure was 04, so that, yeah,

1119
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,080
right around the same time.
Yeah.

1120
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,600
So yeah, that is Lee.
That's an incredible pick.

1121
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:27,080
And we also just always need
more Nicolas Cage.

1122
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,120
Absolutely, Brad.
How about you, man?

1123
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:35,280
You know, I was thinking about
going with a film I saw once as

1124
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,960
a child, and for some reason it
reminded me of this Indian in

1125
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,280
the Cupboard.
But I I'm not going to go with

1126
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,360
that, OK?
I'm going to go.

1127
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,880
I'm going to stick in the Robin
Williams train because just like

1128
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,960
Nicolas Cage, we need more Robin
Williams in our lives.

1129
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:54,320
I'm going to go with Jumanji.
OK, I thought you were going a

1130
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,440
different direction.
Jumanji actually might be the

1131
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,680
better pick here.
I was going to say, Bob, I don't

1132
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,000
know how Jumanji is not the
right Robin Williams movie.

1133
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,000
It sounded like you had
something else in mind as I

1134
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,600
started to talk about Robin
Williams.

1135
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,240
It was but but please make your
case for Jumanji here.

1136
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:14,320
Oh, I mean, Jumanji is a great
action adventure film.

1137
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:18,680
I think that it it falls just
outside a similar era like

1138
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:22,200
Jumanji's what like 9697?
Yep.

1139
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,680
But I I think it's just a really
fun movie and you get to see

1140
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,640
Robin Williams be Robin Williams
and bring all of the hearts and

1141
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,240
all of the chaos that he always
he always does.

1142
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,320
Yeah, it it really does fall
into that sub genre of Robin

1143
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,000
Williams plus elephants and
rhinos.

1144
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,160
You know, there's only a few
movies that you can really slot

1145
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,400
that into.
So it's a it's a great pairing,

1146
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,480
Brad.
I had two movies that I was

1147
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,280
thinking about for my Let's Make
it a Double.

1148
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:51,080
And the first of which they all
revolved around this idea of,

1149
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,840
you know, Dad whose kid thinks
he's a bum.

1150
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,920
And so he has to kind of become
a superhero of sorts to win his

1151
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,960
kids affection.
And I think the most literal

1152
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,720
pairing for that is the 1996
Christmas movie Jingle All the

1153
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:08,440
Way where Arnold Schwarzenegger
has to become Turbo Man.

1154
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:13,040
But then I started thinking
about like, oh, Jingle All the

1155
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,280
Way is actually basically just
Hollywood responding to a movie

1156
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:17,920
that came out a few years before
that.

1157
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,000
And this was my Robin Williams
connection.

1158
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,800
I think the best pairing for
this movie is misses Doubtfire.

1159
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:27,880
I think it's it's Robin Williams
doing the I have to become

1160
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,840
another person to learn how to
be a better father thing.

1161
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,760
You get that here with Ben
Stiller finally kind of waking

1162
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,080
up to being the hero that he's
always been.

1163
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:41,040
I think you get the emotional
moments and you just get double

1164
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,880
the Robin Williams man.
How good is Misses Doubtfire?

1165
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:48,320
How good is Jumanji like you?
Can't go wrong there, dude.

1166
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,880
Can you imagine watching in
chronological order, Misses

1167
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:58,440
Doubtfire, Jumanji, National
Treasure, National Treasure, and

1168
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,960
then Night at the museum.
What a day.

1169
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,640
That would be a heck of a day of
movie watching.

1170
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,640
All right, Brad, let's give this
movie some final scores here and

1171
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,800
I'll get mine out of the way.
First, I really thought this was

1172
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,920
going to suck.
It only had a 42% from critics

1173
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,240
on Rotten Tomatoes and only a
65% from the audience.

1174
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,040
That's crazy.
That's super duper low for an

1175
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,680
audience score.
And through the first hour of

1176
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,600
the movie, I was like, oh, I get
it, like this is a four out of

1177
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,560
10 at best.
And then the last 40 minutes of

1178
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,040
the movie happened and it was an
8 1/2 out of 10.

1179
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:36,560
So I'm trying to really balance
those two, but I think this is

1180
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,080
the type of movie where the
ending is so strong that it

1181
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:43,720
sends you out forgetting about
how slow the first hour was.

1182
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,240
And I think I'm going to come
all the way up to a 7.5 on this

1183
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,200
movie.
It was super enjoyable.

1184
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,000
I had a great time with it.
I'm I'm hoping that my kids will

1185
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,840
watch it with me one of these
days and I plan on returning to

1186
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:56,680
it again.
So it's a 7.5 for me.

1187
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:01,400
Yeah, I I'm at the exact same
spot Bob, this is a 7 1/2.

1188
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:06,480
I I always like in my brain
categorize it on IMDb scores

1189
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,920
which don't give us half points.
And so when I'm whenever I'm at

1190
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:14,080
a half point, I'm kind of like
is this a eight out of 10/7 and

1191
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,280
1/2 or a seven out of 10/7 and
1/2.

1192
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,760
You know what I mean?
This is an 8 out of 10/7 and 1/2

1193
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:26,320
like this is the most fun that I
think you can have with a 7 1/2

1194
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,120
type of movie.
And I just, I really enjoy it.

1195
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:32,840
I can't wait to watch it with my
kids someday and I I would, I

1196
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,360
would recommend anybody go back
and just have an enjoyable

1197
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,160
evening with with Ben Stiller
and Robin Williams.

1198
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:44,680
As APG movie, which is still
interesting to remember.

1199
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:49,000
It was a Fiji movie, man.
I think this hits all the right

1200
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,000
notes.
And I think that the ensemble

1201
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:56,240
cast each gets some really fun
moments to just let people just

1202
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,920
kind of sit in those moments.
And I think, you know, just

1203
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:04,120
getting back to the the kind of
main storyline like when I used

1204
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,280
to go to a museum as a kid, just
imagining like, if they came to

1205
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,360
life and if this happened right.
And so I think there's a certain

1206
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:14,000
amount of like whimsy in the
movie that's a lot of fun to

1207
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:19,040
kind of like re explore and and
just kind of think about like oh

1208
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,200
what what would those times look
like?

1209
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,439
What would these character churs
become if they if they came to

1210
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,640
life.
So I just think this is 1 where

1211
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,840
you can kind of like
reinvestigate like your

1212
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:33,200
childhood and just kind of be in
that whimsy again, which is,

1213
01:08:33,319 --> 01:08:35,920
which is always exciting a. 100%
man.

1214
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,479
I'll be wild this 20 more times.
It'll be great.

1215
01:08:39,399 --> 01:08:42,680
And next time you watch it, I I
don't know if this was meant to

1216
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:47,120
be, but I noticed throughout the
movie there's multiple times

1217
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:51,160
where there's like a poster or
some sort of writing right

1218
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:56,000
behind or around Ben Stiller and
they all match where he's at in

1219
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:59,120
the story.
So next time you watch it when

1220
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,840
when he escapes the Huns on the
first night in the elevator,

1221
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:08,200
there's a poster in the elevator
that says spineless at the end

1222
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,960
of the second day, when
everything has gone wrong in the

1223
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:12,920
museum, even though he tried
really hard.

1224
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:17,080
As he walks back into the museum
after the caveman turns to dust,

1225
01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:20,359
there's a sign that says
weathering the storm.

1226
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,920
And then at the end of the third
day, he walks back into the

1227
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:25,920
museum.
And when he's like checking in

1228
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,600
all the animals, there's like a
a carved mural on the wall

1229
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,560
behind him.
And you don't see all of it, but

1230
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:36,439
it says like iron and manhood
and like these things of like,

1231
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,439
he's made it as a man.
And I'm like, I don't, I don't

1232
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,880
know if I'm giving Shawn Levy
too much credit, but I thought

1233
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,680
it was pretty cool.
Yeah, the gift that keeps on

1234
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:49,279
giving this movie and you can
see like where where Stiller got

1235
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:51,680
some inspiration for some of the
stuff he did in Walter Mitty

1236
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:52,840
too.
Absolutely.

1237
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:54,800
Awesome.
Brad, thank you for that.

1238
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,080
And thank you, Lee, for joining
us today.

1239
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,920
Can you give us real quick just
a quick plug of what you have

1240
01:09:59,920 --> 01:10:01,920
coming up at Reserve bar and
where we can find you?

1241
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,640
Absolutely.
So on reservebar.com right now

1242
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:09,160
we have a series of 20 new
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1243
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:12,280
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including as I already

1244
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,840
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1245
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We also have some great things

1246
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1247
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1248
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,080
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So I mean just a lot of really

1249
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:33,640
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1250
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:37,160
And then just coming off of San
Francisco World Spirits, there

1251
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:42,240
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1252
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:46,400
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1253
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1254
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,320
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1255
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,800
the general public.
So what I'm hearing you say,

1256
01:10:55,800 --> 01:11:01,120
Lee, is that if you like whiskey
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1257
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:05,520
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1258
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,960
I mean, that's one way to put it
there.

1259
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,880
There are just.
So many, so many great barrels

1260
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:13,640
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And the one thing that I'm

1261
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:18,480
hoping that we can create in
Reserve Bar is a, a place where

1262
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:22,360
you not only get access to
compelling spirits, but for

1263
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:25,840
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select, I take the time to kind

1264
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:30,080
of painstakingly write the story
behind it, the notes, you know

1265
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,000
why you would want to taste it.
And if it's not your thing, it's

1266
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:36,040
not your thing.
But at least we give you a base

1267
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,800
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1268
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,440
And then in our cocktail lounge,
which is our blog, we're really

1269
01:11:42,440 --> 01:11:46,040
getting deep in this year into
the stories of compelling

1270
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:50,040
distillers, master blenders,
founders of companies to really

1271
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,800
talk about why, why they're
doing what they're doing.

1272
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:58,640
So we just had a great editorial
piece on Emma Crandall Blender

1273
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:03,240
at at Balcones and just a really
great example to, you know, pull

1274
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:06,240
the curtain back and say, hey,
these are the people that are

1275
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,920
making that work happen.
Well, Lee, we can't thank you

1276
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:10,560
enough for being here.
Come back soon.

1277
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,680
Maybe we can talk about the
sequel tonight at the museum,

1278
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:17,360
which I still haven't seen.
So guys, we'll be back next

1279
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:21,280
week, Brad, as we tip into the
the dark side of this season,

1280
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:25,760
kicking it off with 2007's
Michael Bay epic Transformers.

1281
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,000
So join us for that.
But until then, I'm Bob.

1282
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:30,520
My book.
I'm Brad G.

1283
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:32,240
And we'll see you next time.