Moneyball (2011) / Bardstown Bourbon Company Distillery Reserve Cathedral French Oak Bourbon (NSFW)

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In 2011, director Bennett Miller
and star Brad Pitt gave the

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world a quiet look at the
stunning revolution in the world

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of baseball.
In 2025, we try a bourbon fit

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for royalty.
The film is Moneyball.

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The whiskey is Bardstown Bourbon
Company Distillery Reserve

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Cathedral French oak barrel
finish are.

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You done yet, Bob?
A one word movie title and a 78

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word bourbon title.
And we will review both of those

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things today.
This is the Film and Whiskey

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podcast.
Welcome to the Film and Whiskey

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podcast, where each week we
review a classic movie and a

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glass of whiskey.
I'm Bob Book.

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I'm Brad G.
And Brad G It is almost opening

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day in the world of Major League
Baseball.

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We've officially arrived in
spring, it seems.

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I as I get older I find myself
loving baseball more and more

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and more.
What a great sport.

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I was gonna let's you know what,
let's do this.

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Let's have the baseball
conversation right now.

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Folks, welcome into film and
whiskey.

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If this is your first episode
joining us, we don't usually go

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deep on sports.
We usually go deep on films and

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whiskey.
But because this is opening

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week, we figured, hey, let's
talk about Moneyball.

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And in order to talk about
Moneyball, we got to talk about

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the state of things in the world
of baseball.

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Brad, it seems that both
viewership and attendance have

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been in the steady decline for
baseball for years and years

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now.
The young people are just not

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attaching themselves to the
world of baseball as they once

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did.
And I'm not here to interrogate

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why that is.
But I will say I watch less

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baseball than I ever have.
But I'm kind of with you in that

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like there is no sport that I
feel nostalgia for or like a

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deep sense of like magic like I
do with a good baseball game.

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So I don't know how to reconcile
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I never watch it, but every time
I watch a great baseball game

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it's like this is.
America, you know, yeah.

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Now I will say from what I have
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baseball is actually kind of
boosting in the ratings again.

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Oh, that's good.
Around 2019, it started going

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up. 2020 I think helped as
people wanted something to watch

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and since I I believe viewership
is up the last few years as well

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as ticket sales.
So baseball surprisingly doing

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well, whereas I think it's
coming out of the NB as

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viewership a little bit.
Yeah, for sure.

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Because I know that the NBA has
been down, I will say football

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is the black hole of American
sports viewership that seems to

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suck up a lot of viewers who are
shed from other sports.

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But I will say, man, living in
Cleveland over the last decade

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plus has been a huge blessing in
the world of baseball because

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I've had a good baseball team to
watch year in and year out.

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I do love me some Guardians
baseball, and it makes sense

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that baseball viewership would
rebound it.

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Honestly, it should be the
dominant sport in America still.

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When you just think about like
the sports calendar, it's the

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longest season of the year and
it's got essentially like 6-7

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months of the year to itself.
There's really nothing competing

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with it in those summer months.
So, like, it's crazy how much

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people love the NFL because
baseball's, like, right there

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for the taking.
And Brad, I don't think we could

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have picked a better movie to
talk about when it comes to the

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world of baseball than
Moneyball.

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Folks, if you are joining us for
the first time or if this is,

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you know, one of your first
episodes, what we've been doing

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this season is we've been
looking at films from the last

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20 years and we've been asking
the question, does this movie

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deserve to be considered a
modern masterpiece?

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Now, Brad, I don't want to spoil
our answer to that question too

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much, but I will say based on
the few sports movies we've done

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this season, we've already said
there's not a lot of great

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Alzheimer sports movies in the
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And so I think just on that
criteria, it's kind of an

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automatic yes in terms of being
a classic.

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Is that fair to say?
I mean, I personally would judge

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it more just across all films.
Like I, I don't think just

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because it's a baseball movie
means that it's a classic,

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because it's really good.
I will say if you are just

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limiting it to baseball films
over the last 30 years, like,

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yeah, this is a classic.
And and again, like, people need

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sports movies to watch.
And so maybe kind of by default,

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it's like, well, this is the
closest thing we've had for the

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last 20 years, you know?
So we'll get into talking about

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all this, but let's kind of cast
some vision for our Moneyball

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episode.
Brad, I've seen this movie, I

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don't know, six or seven times
all the way through.

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I've seen bits and pieces on TVA
lot.

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It's really funny.
My kids will lock in on this

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movie when I am like, flipping
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And it doesn't seem like the
kind of movie that anyone under

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the age of 35 would be
interested in because it's just

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a guy sitting in decaying office
office rooms on telephones

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talking about dollars and cents.
But like, you know, my five year

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old looked at me today and he's
like, I get it.

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I get why it's called Moneyball.
And I said, yeah, buddy, why is

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that?
He said because they need money

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so they can play baseball.
And I was like, this kid gets

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it.
He he has solved it.

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So, yeah, I, I there's something
about this movie.

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Maybe they're just preparing for
their own dad phases down the

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road.
But it is like I'm sucked into

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this thing every time I watch
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Brad.
Just make sure the kids have

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like Doritos sprinkled onto
their bellies while while

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they're watching the movie.
I think my favorite part of this

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film that that I really want
your kids to like, pick up on

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and start quoting is when the
scout is talking about how they

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don't want the 1 prospect
because he has an ugly

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girlfriend.
Yeah, he doesn't got good

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vision.
Nothing better exemplifies like

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the old way of scouting baseball
players than like he is not Joe

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DiMaggio or Mickey Mantle or
whoever it was that dated

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Marilyn Monroe for a while.
You know what I mean, right?

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Yeah.
DiMaggio, DiMaggio.

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Yeah.
All right, Brad, on that note,

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let's get into our first segment
of the day, which we call Brad

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Explains.
Brad's going to give us the

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movie plots with only 60 seconds
taken on the clock.

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So let's go ahead and do your
take with this little segment

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that we call Brad Explains.
Brad Explains is the part of the

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show where Brad breaks down the
plot of the film that he has

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just seen often for the first
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Brad, I just revealed that I've
seen this a number of times.

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How many watches is this for you
of Moneyball?

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I'm pretty sure that this is my
second watch of Moneyball.

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I, I, I know I saw it 5 or 6
years ago.

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I don't think I've seen it
since, but yeah, enough that I

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would say we're going to have a
just ultra compelling 60 seconds

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here.
Now, Brad, I don't know how how

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often you go down the rabbit
hole of just kind of scrolling

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through YouTube clips, but this
is a A fixture, a staple of the

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YouTube short, at least in my
algorithm.

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Have you seen bits and pieces of
it anywhere in between your two

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watches, or are you coming into
this completely separated from

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any viewing experience?
I don't feel like I've seen much

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of this movie.
The the one thing that I saw

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that I was like, oh, I forgot
that that was from Moneyball, is

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the meme when Brad Pitt is
looking at the camera and he

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goes, listen, it's not that
hard.

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Tell him it's incredibly, it's
incredibly hard as anything

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worth trying to do.
Is all right, man.

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So with that in mind, you have
60 seconds breakdown the plot of

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this movie with full spoilers
and go.

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The film Moneyball follows Billy
Beane, played by Brad Pitt, who

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is the general manager of the
Oakland Athletics, a Major

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League Baseball club.
They don't have much money, and

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they're losing some of their
best players, and so they need a

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way to field a great team that
can make the playoffs without

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much money, as your son put it.
So he follows a few trails,

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realizes that there's a way to
find value from lower costing

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players.
He hires, what's his name,

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Jonah.
We'll just call him Jonah Hill.

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He hires Jonah Hill, real life
Jonah Hill, to be his baseball

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analyst who believes in this
different way of thinking.

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He pisses off a bunch of people
on the way, and they have a

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really cool winning streak and
they lose in the ALDS going

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nowhere.
The end.

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I want to kick off today talking
about the team behind the camera

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of the movie, which I feel like
we've been doing frankly, a a

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poor job of lately.
Brad, we've got we've gone into

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performances a lot, but I don't
feel like we've really spent

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much time talking about
directing or writing with a lot

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of our movies lately.
But this is a film that features

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a writing team of Aaron Sorkin
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Now, Steven Zalian is a, I don't
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journeyman.
He is one of the best

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screenwriters in Hollywood, and
he kind of falls into a more

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traditional mold when it comes
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It's a classic Hollywood
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So Brad, I'm going to read a
couple of the movies that

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Steve's Alien has written, many
of which we've done on this

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podcast.
So even going back to the 90s,

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he wrote the movie Awakenings
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De Niro.
He wrote Schindler's List.

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Oh, wow.
He wrote, he's credited for the

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story of the original Mission
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He wrote Gangs of New York.
He wrote American Gangster.

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He helped with the screenplay
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Tattoo.
He wrote The Irishman for Martin

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Scorsese.
The guy is a big deal in

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Hollywood.
And so you pair him up with, you

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know, perhaps the preeminent
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And I think what we have here is
a script that is really

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fascinating to me to dissect
because you I don't think you

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would immediately peg this as an
Aaron Sorkin script.

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There is very little dialogue at
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And I find that it actually ends
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scripts that Sorkin has ever
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of like economy to the dialogue.
It's really crisp.

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It's really pointed, but it
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And I feel like especially late
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ramble.
I I really love this script man.

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Yeah, It absolutely winds itself
tightly around what you're

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seeing on the screen.
And you always feel this sense

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of unease, like every single
time Brad Pitt reassures Jonah

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Hill that their jobs are safe
and then immediately, like,

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flips things on his head.
He goes.

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And besides, what's the worst
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Like, we're going to be fine.
Everything's going to be good.

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And you're like, yeah, the worst
thing that could happen is you

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get fired and you can't find a
job.

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And, and you know, it's just has
a way of pacing itself that you

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have a lot of these little funny
moments kind of interspersed

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throughout the film.
But what I love most about the

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script is that it allows each
scene to just be what it's going

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to be.
And it doesn't expect anything

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out of the viewer to like, I
don't know, force it in any

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specific direction there.
There's just a a natural smooth

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movement to the way that this
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So apparently Xalian had done a
first draft of it, and then Amy

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Pascal, the head of the studio,
specifically sought out Aaron

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Sorkin to come do a rewrite.
And Sorkin had enough respect

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for Xalian that he said, like,
I'm not going to work on this

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movie unless I get Steve
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And so they both kind of crafted
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of each other.
So they really weren't working

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together on this.
I'd be interested, you know, if

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there's articles out there that
talk about which scenes were

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written by which person, because
there are definitely scenes in

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this movie where I'm like, oh, I
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And then there's other scenes
where it's like, oh, that feels

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like the sort of pulling at the
heartstrings thing that Steve's

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aliens really good at.
In any case, I think that it

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adds up to a movie that I
struggle to understand why this

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movie isn't a 10 out of 10 for
me, Brad like it is.

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It's really good.
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it, the more I realize that
like, it's actually very

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understated in the way that it
tries to pull off its themes

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that like, there's some grand
overarching character arc thing

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going on with Brad Pitt and
everything that is set up is

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paid off.
There's like a ton of Chekhov's

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guns in this movie, but they're
they don't really call attention

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to themselves.
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first four or five times I saw
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good movie, 8 1/2 out of 10.
This time around, I felt like it

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it worked even better for me,
but I still just it almost has

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that like spotlight ceiling that
we talked about where the way

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they made this movie I think is
really appropriate for the kind

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of story they're telling.
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on my overall enjoyment factor
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I'm I'm kind of with you here,
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I found myself this time through
feeling like this is a better

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movie than what I actually am
seeing on the screen that

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there's, and maybe it's just
because I've, I've listened to

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you talk about it and how much
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But this time through, I was
struck by the beauty of the

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small moments of the film.
But there's nothing that it ever

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really builds toward in my mind.
Like like, yes, there's the 22

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wow, sorry, 20 game win streak.
I I got a little tripped up

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there, Bob, seeing as as my
Indians, you know, had a 22 game

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win streak to break this record.
No big deal.

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I just thought I should throw
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It doesn't feel like this movie
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like, it's at the end of the
day, he started something that

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was already somewhat in the
works around the league, and he

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kind of gets credit for it.
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way better team than he would
have built the traditional way.

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But at the end of the day, like,
he's never been to the World

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Series.
He's never won a World Series it

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it ends with a really cool win
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playoffs and they lose at the
exact same place of the playoffs

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that they did the year before
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It makes me wonder if this
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translating into a film.
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want to talk about the way the
screenplay develops the Billy

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Bean character and Brad Pitt is
so good in this movie, but also

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he's doing the understated thing
so much that at times you're

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like, is he acting or is he just
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You know what I mean?
Like it's a very.

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I don't understate it is the
nice way of saying.

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It it reminds me of Bruce Willis
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Yes, understated is the nice way
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And I think Sleepy is like, it's
like the mean, like he's got the

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old Sleepy Joe going on a little
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of that, it can be kind of easy

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to get distracted from the
overall story they're trying to

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tell.
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intercutting young Billy Beane
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railroaded by the old way of
gauging baseball players of

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scouting.
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He has a full ride to Stanford.
He chooses to chase the money

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and chase his dream.
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And he gets chewed up and spat
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And that has always stuck with
him as a person that like, he is

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a victim of what he deems to be
a, a, a failure of a system.

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It's not even just that like he
thinks he got screwed, but he

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starts recognizing that like I
should never have been as hyped

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up as I was as a player and like
this is a fundamental flaw in

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the system.
And so his embrace of the

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Moneyball system is really like
him starting his own journey of

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discovery and healing.
And I think for me, the the

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scene that really clicked it for
me that I guess I just never put

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two and two together, is right
after the 21 game or 20 game win

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streak.
And it cuts to a scene of Jonah

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Hill and Brad Pitt in like a
video room somewhere.

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And Brad Pitt's basically saying
like, it doesn't matter, none of

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this matters.
It sells hot dogs.

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But like, I know these guys.
I know they don't care.

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The second we lose a game,
they're going to be on our ass

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again.
And what he's saying is correct

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about the way that the system
sucks in baseball.

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But also, like, it's such an
insight into the fact that,

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like, his character is still so
deeply distrustful and haunted

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and scarred by what has happened
to him that he still can't let

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himself take a step back and see
that like he's already changed

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the course of baseball history
by just by what he's done.

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I think it's a brilliant scene.
And they do pay it off, you

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know, 20 minutes later in the
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But the insights into the
character are really small and

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really understated, and I think
they're easy to miss if you're

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not asking yourself at every
point of the movie, like, what

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does this say?
Like, what's the larger picture

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here?
And perhaps that's a flaw the

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movie.
I'm curious like what you think

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about that?
I think that, like you said,

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it's a really quiet movie and
the more you sit with it, the

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more you let it simmer.
I think that it makes an

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incredible experience.
The, the, the beauty of Bean's

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character really is that he is
distrustful of the MLB as a

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whole and he's deeply in love
with like the art of the game of

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baseball.
And you see that in those

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moments of contrast between who
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who he was as a player.
I I think the hard part is you

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don't get enough insight, you
know, you know, I don't even

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know if you ever hear his
younger self speak it.

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It seems like there would be
something to dive into there.

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But on another hand, like they
do a good job of treating it

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like they are, you know, their
memories.

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It's him remembering what it was
like to be playing in the major

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leagues and how difficult it is.
And you have to wonder, like is

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being being the type of general
manager that he wishes he had as

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a player?
Well, and I think that's like,

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so you get to the point at the
end of the movie where their

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season's over and he gets this
astronomical offer from the Red

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Sox to come be their GM.
It's the, it would be making the

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highest paid GM in all of
sports.

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And Jonah Hill has this moment
where he looks at Brad Pitt and

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and, you know, get told Brad
Pitt's like mulling it over.

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And he's like, what does this
say about me?

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If I take the money at this
point, he's like, it says what

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it says about every great player
who goes for the money that

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they're worth it.
And you can tell it doesn't sit

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well with Brad Pitt because the
entire movie, what they've been

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saying is like these players
that are commanding all this

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money aren't worth it.
You can actually replace them

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for like, it's it's a perfect
mirror image of him being on the

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other side of the equation now.
But I think, Brad, that what I'm

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struggling with is.
Do I actually want this movie to

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talk down to its audience more?
And I think what I mean by that

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is like, it doesn't have the big
showy Oscari speeches.

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It doesn't have, at least not
very much.

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It doesn't have people like
looking directly at Billy Beane

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the way they look at J Robert
Oppenheimer and say, like, you

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are important.
You need to realize how

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important you are.
And I, I almost wish that it did

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a better job of underscoring the
point it's trying to make about

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Billy Beane, because it relies
on the audience to put two and

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two together.
And I think obviously, like, we

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can do that, but it makes for a
less dynamic, compelling,

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entertaining way of telling the
story.

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And for me, I, I think that that
all gets summed up with the

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final like big thing that
happens in the film, the the big

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speech that he gives at the end
when he goes, how can you not be

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romantic about baseball?
I think it's a huge missed

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opportunity, Bob.
Oh, that's my favorite part of

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the movie.
I think that's the one place

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they nail it.
See, that's the one place where

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they completely like with like.
It is the best opening line for

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an absolutely terrible speech
because he literally doesn't say

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anything about the beauty of
baseball as a sport.

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He literally goes straight into
like specifics about the Oakland

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A's.
And I just was sitting there

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going, huh, I thought that this
this was like an actual

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beautiful summary of what the
sport of baseball is.

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But it's not.
It's just him talking about like

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the Oakland A's for another few
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And I was so let down by that
because the movie should be

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about more than just
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Like, it should be more than
just about the way that they've

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selected their players.
And at the end of the day,

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that's all it's about.
And so I, I found myself at the

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end of it kind of disappointed,
like, oh, I was expecting this

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more to be about like the beauty
of baseball as a whole and what

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it can mean to a person.
And, and it just kind of fell

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short of that.
It fell shallow.

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Yeah, and I think that's what
I'm saying.

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I wish they made more explicit
the way that he actually helped

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the players themselves too.
And you you get a couple guys

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like there's the the jokey scene
where the guy's like, I'm going

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to pray for you.
And he's like, no problem.

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He just like walks away.
But what he did is he

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implemented a system that
actually values undervalued

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players and it doesn't overvalue
people that don't deserve it.

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And like, so he's he's solving a
system that victimized him and

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that kept so many guys from ever
getting their chance.

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And I think that's the beauty of
what he did.

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It's not just the dollars and
cents.

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And you're right that the only
thing they make explicit is the

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dollars and cents and the like,
secondary benefit of like you,

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you made this better for players
too.

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That needed to be made a little
bit more explicit to me.

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Now, what I will say, though, is
like, so you have the scene

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where Brad Pitt says it's really
hard not to be romantic about

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baseball, but here's why you
can't.

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And that's what I was referring
to, the one where he's like, it

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doesn't matter that we had this
streak.

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It doesn't matter.
All these guys don't care.

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But then by the end of the
movie, you get the inversion of

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that with Jonah Hill presenting
the guy who fell down rounding

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first and didn't realize he hit
a home run.

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And I think that scene is like,
it is so perfectly scripted

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because even at the point where
I'm like, I'm sitting there with

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tears in my eyes about it, and
and even at the point where I'm

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like, that's a little on the
nose, but I still love it.

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You get the great line where
Jonah Hill acknowledges that

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it's on the nose because he's
like, it's a metaphor.

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And Brett's, I guess I
understand that this is a

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metaphor.
I just man, that part of the

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movie for me is just perfection,
man.

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Oh, that.
That's the line about it being a

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metaphor.
I'm like, it felt like an

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intrusion of humor from eight
years later.

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Like it like it felt like an
intrusion of Guardians of the

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Galaxy kind of humor.
And I was just kind of was like.

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Oh man.
That felt icky to me.

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Now what I will say is so this
movie is nominated for I believe

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6 Oscars at the 2012 Academy
Awards, a historically crappy

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year for movies as I look
through 2011 just not not a

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great year and says even more
about this movie that it

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couldn't get the momentum needed
to win any of these awards.

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The one that really stands out
to me though, Brad is in editing

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because I think that the editing
in this movie is unbelievably

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good so much so that like you
almost don't notice it.

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But when I say that this movie
is like a perfect YouTube clip

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movie, it's one of those things
where like you, you have to have

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almost perfect editing to make a
conversation between two people

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in an office building
compelling.

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And even more so when it's like
Brad Pitt on the phone with

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somebody that you don't hear the
voice of on the other end.

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And even more so when it's like
2 guys watching a video replay

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on a screen.
But where it really got me is is

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the the montage of the streak
happening before, you know, the

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final game that Billy Bean goes
back to when it's all just like

445
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,000
archive footage and they're
intercutting it with stuff from

446
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,800
100 years ago and playing radio
interviews over top of it.

447
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:05,200
It is like a brilliantly
constructed historical montage.

448
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,720
And this movie does stuff like
that so, so well that I think

449
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,960
that again, you almost don't
notice it, but it is like it's a

450
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,440
feat of editing for me.
Yeah, it's so seamlessly weaves

451
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:23,680
between the narrative and the
history of baseball that you

452
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,080
almost feel like the movie is a
documentary at points.

453
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,200
And it and it does it in such a
beautiful way that you, the

454
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:35,320
viewer, don't feel like you're
shifting between genres from

455
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,560
drama to documentary and back
it.

456
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:43,160
It just has a really beautiful
movement to it, flow to it that

457
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:46,720
I I really enjoyed that.
Did you say that it won editing

458
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,320
or did it not come on Oscars?
I know, man.

459
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,640
I don't think it won any Oscars.
I'm looking through the list.

460
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,640
I Yeah, The Artist dominated
this Oscars season, so here's.

461
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,040
Let me let me read you that the
the silent.

462
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,600
Movie.
Yeah, let me.

463
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,080
Read you the best picture line
up here.

464
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,800
The Artist, The Descendants,
which is a movie by Alexander

465
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,360
Payne.
Extremely loud and incredibly

466
00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:12,960
close, which is wow, that's a
bad movie.

467
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,800
The Help, a movie we liked.
Hugo, the Scorsese movie, Pretty

468
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,360
good.
Midnight in Paris, a movie that

469
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:26,000
you notoriously hate.
Moneyball, The Tree of Life and

470
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,320
then War Horse, the Spielberg
movie.

471
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,240
Hold up.
Yeah.

472
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,080
Midnight in Paris.
Brad, you're the only person on

473
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,960
earth who does not think that's
at least a good movie.

474
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:37,440
Like I I don't want to spend any
money.

475
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,560
Couldn't.
I literally couldn't get past

476
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,680
like 40 minutes.
Like I gave it a shot.

477
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,600
Well allowed.
Acting was so horrifically bad

478
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,800
in that film.
Allow that to cast a pole over.

479
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,040
That's how bad of a year this
was.

480
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,840
If you think that movie is bad,
I, I can guarantee you at least

481
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,120
5 movies in the best picture
line up or worse than that.

482
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,720
So I look at this and I'm like,
for me, this is Moneyball and

483
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,280
The Tree of Life.
And I don't know how those two

484
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,000
movies didn't win everything at
the Oscars.

485
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,240
Yeah, that, that's what I was
thinking as well.

486
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,000
I've those are the two movies
I've seen.

487
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,080
I've seen 1/3 of Midnight in
Paris.

488
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,000
You saw the help.
That's true.

489
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,440
The help, I apologize.
So yeah, I I would say Moneyball

490
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,840
is better than the help.
I would say the Tree of Life is

491
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,880
cooler than Moneyball, but it
would have made sense.

492
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,440
If Moneyball wins over Tree of
Life, that's that's a crappy

493
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,360
year for movies.
I yeah, man, I agree.

494
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,760
I agree.
I I thought I would look up the

495
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,960
animated film to see if that was
any good.

496
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,520
The animated feature film of
that year was Rango.

497
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,080
Narrowly beating out Kung Fu
Panda 2.

498
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:51,280
Yes, and Puss in Boots.
So Brad, on that note, why don't

499
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,520
we hit pause here?
I want to come back and talk a

500
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,120
little bit about like what we
think really works about the

501
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,480
movie and then specifically dive
into the two main performances

502
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,600
here in Brad Pitt and Jonah
Hill.

503
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,560
But first, we've got to drink
some whiskey.

504
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,400
So what do you say we try this
extremely long titled Bardstown

505
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,040
Bourbon Company Bourbon?
Let's drink some whiskey, Bob.

506
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,840
All right, so today we are
checking out Bardstown Bourbon

507
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,640
Company Distillery Reserve.
Now this is a new line of

508
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,080
whiskeys from Bardstown that
they are launching with this

509
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,440
inaugural blend called the
Cathedral French Oak Barrel

510
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,520
finish.
This is a blend of Kentucky

511
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,840
straight bourbon whiskeys that
are finished for 14 months in

512
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:41,400
what they refer to as 300 year
old French oak barrels.

513
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,600
Now Brad, this is.
That sounds listen expensive.

514
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,760
It does.
I I'm a marketing guy.

515
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,120
I do a lot with copywriting.
This is where language is very

516
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,600
important, Brad, because there
are times where a barrel or the

517
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:01,200
wood used in a cooperage to make
a barrel has been aged after the

518
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,560
tree has been cut down like they
age the wood.

519
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,360
I don't believe that's what's
going on here.

520
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,880
Now, the trees that were chopped
down to make these barrels were

521
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,960
at least 300 years of age.
I don't know if we can actually

522
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,320
call that 300 year old oak the
way that they're intending it to

523
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,880
be interpreted, but I maybe I'm
reading it wrong.

524
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,960
I will just say first strike
against this whiskey for me is

525
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,520
like you guys got to you got to
be clear about what we're doing

526
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,920
with the wood here.
Bob, I personally, this is just

527
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:36,080
me.
I remember living in Boston and

528
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,640
we went to a ice cream shop
called, I think it was called

529
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,480
Richardson's Creamery.
And on their logo it was like

530
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:51,360
ice cream since 1685.
And whether or not like they've

531
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,400
been making the modern version
of ice cream since then or like

532
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,760
some ancient, you know, Puritan
version of ice cream, I don't

533
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,880
really care.
Because when you say something

534
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:07,960
is 300 years old, I don't, it
doesn't bother me if it's a 300

535
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,480
year old tree or a 300 year old
aged piece of wood that was cut

536
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,880
down to a tree.
I I think either is impressive.

537
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,840
It is very impressive.
They also used trees that were

538
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,720
harvested to help with the
repairs on the Notre Dame

539
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,640
Cathedral.
So it's, it seems like these are

540
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,000
the the pieces of wood that
didn't make it into the

541
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,640
cathedral.
But that's why this is called

542
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,280
like holy wood.
It well, it seems like it was

543
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,680
destined to become holy wood,
but then it was intercepted by

544
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,800
the Bourbon makers and they were
like, no, you, you will not make

545
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,360
it into the cathedral.
We're just going to call this

546
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,920
cathedral French oak instead.
So I love that they not only

547
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,480
didn't allow it to get used in
the cathedral, but that they

548
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,400
then took it and called it
cathedral oak just as a big

549
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,800
middle finger.
Like, forget you gigantic.

550
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,680
I don't know, Bob.
Gigantic Duomo.

551
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,920
I don't know Bob, knowing how
much the Catholics like to

552
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,800
drink, it would not surprise me
if they like set up side some of

553
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,880
the wood to be used in such a
manner.

554
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,360
They actually said we don't need
that beam after all.

555
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,240
RIP that out, let's make whiskey
with.

556
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,840
It bro, I know that who's still
Gonzales might not have talked

557
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,600
about it, but you better believe
that almost every innovation of

558
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:28,360
in the world of beer from like
500 till now happened because of

559
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,520
monasteries all.
Right, so this is a blend of at

560
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,200
least 5 of different whiskeys.
They are all Kentucky bourbons.

561
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,800
They're ranging from 9 years to
18 years in age.

562
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,560
Let's dive into this Brad.
It's clocking in at 110.1 proof.

563
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,800
Thank you to Bardstown for
sending us this sample and thank

564
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,560
you for what I am picking up on
the nose of this bad boy.

565
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,840
Brad, this is just I mean, it
was an immediate well aged

566
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,480
bourbon bomb.
When I poured it out, it didn't

567
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,360
it didn't like it didn't sense
over oaked, but it was like, oh

568
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,840
man, every time we've had a
really good like 1415 or plus

569
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,520
bourbon, it has this distinct, I
guess I would just call it

570
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,320
mature character to the nose.
And then when that settled down

571
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,960
a little bit, I got notes of
like, Coca-Cola, but it really

572
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,680
tipped into almost like a flat
root beer for me.

573
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,840
There's like this kind of syrupy
sarsaparilla kind of note going

574
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,320
on underneath it all.
It's really decadent, really

575
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,280
rich.
The color on this is absurdly

576
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,560
dark.
Brad, I'm going to give this a

577
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,880
nine out of 10 on the nose.
Yeah, I'm, I'm with you, man.

578
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:39,280
For me, it's it was almost like
a really heavy cherry licorice

579
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,760
vibe.
There's some black pepper.

580
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,760
It's a bit little bit of an
orange zest.

581
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:49,040
It kind of reminded me of like
hot chocolate powder and all of

582
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:53,200
that going along with some
really nice mature caramel

583
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,200
vanilla vibes of the classic
bourbon.

584
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,160
This is one of the best noses I
think I've had on bourbon in a

585
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,960
while.
Bob, I'm not going to lie to

586
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,480
you, I feel like I've almost
given up on bourbon.

587
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,159
Even you were teasing this last
week, weren't you?

588
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:12,800
Or the week before you were
like, oh, this Scotch is just

589
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,639
OK, but I'd still drink it over
every other bourbon.

590
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,280
Yeah.
I this is the first bourbon I've

591
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,679
had in a while that the nose
makes me really excited, so 9

592
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:28,880
out of 10 for me here.
The palette Robert this is

593
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,880
stunningly good.
It is Okie, but in the most like

594
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,800
smooth and mellow way I can
describe.

595
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,960
There is brown sugar, there is
cinnamon.

596
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,920
It's got that orange zest coming
through.

597
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,920
It reminds me of like a really
nice creamy Creme brulee.

598
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,040
Just little piece of
deliciousness.

599
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:53,040
This is the and I mean this in
the best way possible.

600
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,239
This is the closest thing I
think I've ever had from

601
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,720
Bardstown.
That reminds me of some of the

602
00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:00,280
higher end versions of the
Bourbons we get from like the

603
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,360
big boy players in the industry
like this.

604
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,280
You could set this down next to
Wild Turkey Rare Breed and I

605
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,360
think it's right in that flavor
wheelhouse.

606
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,720
I actually I think it's right
there with Four Roses Small

607
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:16,520
Batch Select as well.
It's just a a really nice down

608
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,000
the middle, well aged, super
sweet bourbon.

609
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,840
It is like syrupy sweet in terms
of like natural Maple syrup on

610
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,560
the tip of my tongue.
There's waves of cherry as well.

611
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,400
I don't think this is very
viscous like and I don't know if

612
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,200
that makes a huge difference.
I did expect it to be a little

613
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,720
bit more viscous with how well
aged it is, but it it just kind

614
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:42,480
of dances across your tongue.
It's a really easy to drink

615
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,680
bourbon.
It shoots like an electric wave

616
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,800
back up your tongue in terms of
how prickly it is on the palate.

617
00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:52,720
But it's, I already said down
the middle, because I think this

618
00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:54,520
is a really crowd pleasing
bourbon.

619
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,560
There's nothing super complex
going on here, Brad, but it's

620
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,480
just like, this is everything I
want in a bourbon.

621
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,480
I'm going to give it a 9.5 on
the palate.

622
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,320
Yeah, I, I, I don't know if I
set my score.

623
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,320
I'm at a nine and a half on the
pallet as well.

624
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,600
I think I disagree with you a
little bit though.

625
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,280
I think that this is a
relatively complex bourbon.

626
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:18,800
It like it has some really nice,
almost like cigar notes going

627
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,800
on, which for me, the Finnish
has a decent amount of oak.

628
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,760
It's got black pepper.
It lands in a really nice cigar

629
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,880
area.
There's some almonds, almost

630
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,920
like an almond extract.
I think that this is a 10 out of

631
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,160
10 finish Bob and and I think
it's a relatively complex

632
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,120
bourbon compared to something
that is unfinished and

633
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,400
unblended.
Every year at ALDI, I'm a big

634
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,360
ALDI guy, by the way, they, they
do twice a year, it's called

635
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,000
German Week and they bring in a
bunch of their foods from, you

636
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,480
know, because ALDI is a German
company.

637
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,760
And so they sell like a lot of
the stuff that they would

638
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,320
normally sell in Germany for
like a week in ALDI.

639
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,000
And they have all these
incredible desserts and they're

640
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,440
always in like the frozen
section, but there's these super

641
00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:06,920
decadent, like German cakes and
pastries.

642
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,240
And almost all of them have some
amount of almond in them.

643
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,840
And I'm, I'm with you, dude.
There's there's a ton of almond

644
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,440
on this, but I get quite a bit
of almost like a raisiny or

645
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,600
pruny character as well.
It's like a really nice German

646
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,760
cake.
And I'm sure the French people

647
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,800
that that, you know, offered up
these wonderful barrels don't

648
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,080
want to be compared to the
Germans, but that's what it

649
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,160
reminds me of.
Like it has a distinctly

650
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:35,640
European tart or pastry feel to
it on the finish.

651
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,440
I am going to give it a 10 out
of 10.

652
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,920
This the best thing I've had
from Bardstown in years and we

653
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,880
had one I think a couple seasons
ago that was among our highest

654
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,720
rated of the season that was a
wine finish from them.

655
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,480
I, I can't even remember the
name of it now because I am so

656
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,320
enthralled with the one we're
drinking at the moment.

657
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,840
Brad, this is fantastic.
Yeah, I we have not had

658
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,720
something from Bardstown this
impressive in a while.

659
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,120
And that's not saying that
Bardstown isn't putting out

660
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:07,320
great product because they are.
This one is just a step above

661
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:12,920
like an A into a plus territory.
I, I think balance wise this is

662
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,920
a 10 out of 10 that there there
is everything you want here.

663
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,080
It is rich and complex.
It has a great balance of

664
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,520
flavors.
I I'm gave it a 10 out of 10 on

665
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,720
the finish.
I'm going to give it a 10 out of

666
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:27,360
10 on the balance.
I'm going to give it a 9.5.

667
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,760
The only knock I think against
this is that I wish it did have

668
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,160
a little bit more viscosity to
it, and I wish that it lingered

669
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,200
just a little bit longer on the
finish.

670
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:40,040
But everything that it offers is
so good that I can't go any

671
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,560
lower than a 9.5 here.
So even before we get into

672
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:49,520
value, I'm at a 38 out of 40
when it comes to just the actual

673
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,400
tasting experience.
Brad, where are you?

674
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:56,560
I am at a 38.5.
Yeah.

675
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,600
So I mean, like we're sitting
like, you know, if you

676
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,680
extrapolated that out, we're at
like a 95 out of 100 on this.

677
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,760
This is one of the best
whiskeys, I mean, just by the

678
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,800
numbers that we've ever had on
this podcast, yeah.

679
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:13,200
I'm curious, Bob, this has an
MSRP, which I would say in

680
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,960
general you can find products
from Bardstown for their MSRP.

681
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,080
This is $100.
Oh yeah, that's a 10 out of 10.

682
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:23,960
How?
Do you feel about that?

683
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,280
That is a 10 out of 10.
I thought it was going to be.

684
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,840
Everything they've been putting
out lately has been like 160.

685
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,720
So I was prepared to go into
this like, oh, it's either going

686
00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:33,880
to be 160 or slightly more than
that.

687
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,640
And Bardstown always kind of
straddles the line between like

688
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,240
a luxury brand and like a middle
class fancy when it when it

689
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:45,080
comes to their price points,
which I really appreciate.

690
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,160
I'm glad that they don't price
things at 2:50 or whatever at

691
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,400
$100.
I don't know that there is a

692
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:56,200
better value in bourbon right
now at that particular price

693
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,080
point.
This is unbelievably good dude.

694
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,280
That's a 10 out of 10.
Yeah, 10 out of 10 for me.

695
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,360
I was expecting 180.
Yeah, like tell me that.

696
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,600
Let's let's do this, this
thought exercise.

697
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,600
If it was 180, what score would
you give it?

698
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,840
Probably like an. 8 So it's so
good folks, that we would give

699
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,720
it an 8 out of 10 or higher.
At 180 dollars.

700
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,880
It only costs $100.
This is such a no brainer.

701
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,800
It's like, unbelievable.
Yeah.

702
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:32,360
I mean 80% higher the cost and
you only use lose 20% of our

703
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,560
value score like like that.
I mean would you also give it an

704
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,400
8 if it was at 180 bucks?
Probably like at least a seven,

705
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,440
I would say.
Like, yeah, luckily I don't have

706
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,760
to do that thought experiment
because they priced it so low

707
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,800
comparatively.
Brad, I'm coming out to what has

708
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,240
to be and, and this is a shock
to me because I literally came

709
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:55,920
into this blind tonight.
I hadn't tried this.

710
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,960
I had no, you know, thoughts
coming in.

711
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,720
This has to be my highest score
I've ever given.

712
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:07,720
I'm at a 48 out of 50.
Wow, I'm at a 48.5 Bob.

713
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,800
Like Brad this.
Is one of the best whiskeys

714
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,600
we've ever had.
Yeah, I mean, and if you just

715
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,160
like ask me, hey, is that one of
the best whiskeys you've ever

716
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,000
tasted?
I probably wouldn't say yes, but

717
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,600
it's just such a crowd pleaser
that I think it's almost

718
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,080
punching above its weight.
It feels weird to say that about

719
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,640
a whiskey finished in 300 year
old barrels here.

720
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,440
There is part of me that is like
questioning how this can be

721
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,080
$100.
Yes.

722
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:43,200
Because look at the blend man,
85% of this whiskey is 14 years

723
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,600
old or older.
Folks, this is coming out at

724
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,360
$100.
Listen, this is coming out to a

725
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:55,480
48.25 out of 50 or a 96 1/2 out
of 100.

726
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:00,600
This is the highest rated
whiskey we have ever had in our

727
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,800
440 episode history of film and
whiskey.

728
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,640
This is incredible.
Yeah, I I'm like, I might go buy

729
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,560
another full bottle of this when
it comes out.

730
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,880
This is this.
This is the most excited I've

731
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,760
been about a new whiskey in a
long time dude.

732
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:16,800
Want to make a trip down to
Kentucky?

733
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,240
Let's freaking do it, man.
Dude, we that's what we need to

734
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:23,080
do.
Just have a organized film and

735
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,720
whiskey gathering at Bardstown
just to buy this whiskey.

736
00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:29,840
All right, tying it back into
our movie for the day.

737
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,520
What?
What better way to go than the

738
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,720
Moneyball route?
Dude, yeah.

739
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,320
I mean, dude, Bardstown
basically is like the Moneyball.

740
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,920
Like they are grabbing whiskies
from all over, they're helping

741
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,440
other people out, they're
Wheeling, Wheeling and dealing.

742
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,080
And they're coming out with a
product that punches way above

743
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,400
its weight class.
This is the Jeremy Giambi of

744
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,880
Bourbons.
That's what we're saying here.

745
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,400
I don't know if that's a
compliment or not.

746
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:06,240
Bob, that man was dancing the
whitest dance I've ever seen in

747
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:09,160
a locker room.
He deserved to get cut from the

748
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,040
team.
All I'm going to say is this.

749
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,720
How can you not be romantic
about Bardstown?

750
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,840
Brad?
Let's get back into talking

751
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,040
about Moneyball.
What do you say?

752
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:24,120
Let's get to it.
All right, everybody.

753
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,440
That was Bardstown Bourbon
Company.

754
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,920
Something, something, something.
Cathedral Whiskey.

755
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,840
A whiskey.
The best whiskey we've ever had.

756
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,880
Yeah, I was going to say that
deserves a lot more than sarcasm

757
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:40,720
for me, because by golly, Bob,
that was incredible.

758
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:46,360
I'm I'm on cloud nine, man.
Oh man, I I love drinking good

759
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,200
whiskey.
There's nothing like it.

760
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,520
You know what is like it Brad is
my freaking dominance this

761
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,560
season at 2 facts and a
falsehood.

762
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,720
I dude, I love it man.
You are doing great this year,

763
00:43:57,720 --> 00:44:00,320
Brad.
Is going to try to stump your

764
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:08,760
ball and what is wrong?
2 facts and a falsehood. 2 Facts

765
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,560
and a Falsehood is the part of
the show where Brad presents me

766
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:16,080
with three items as fact about
the making of this movie, one of

767
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,840
which is actually a complete lie
and I have to figure out which

768
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,240
one that is.
Now, Brad, we're on an

769
00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:24,240
interesting streak here because
we've had a couple guests on the

770
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:26,480
show.
And then before that we had the

771
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,080
episode with Spotlight where you
were like, I don't feel

772
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,800
comfortable making up facts or
fictions about this subject

773
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,760
matter.
So it feels like this is kind of

774
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,560
our return to normalcy.
I'm interested to see how I do

775
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,200
without anyone here to help me
this week.

776
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,720
So hit me with your two Facts
and a falsehood.

777
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,920
In fact #1 Billy Bean is
portrayed as a lonely divorcee

778
00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:50,680
in real life.
He had remarried by the time

779
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,120
that the streak happened.
Scenes were shot with Katherine

780
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:58,160
Morris as his second wife, Tara.
They didn't make the final cut

781
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,600
though, but they are included as
a Blu-ray extra.

782
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,080
However, Brad Pitt's character
is still shown as wearing a

783
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,560
wedding ring throughout the
film.

784
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:14,440
Fact #2 Director Bennett Miller
was so impressed by Caris Dorsey

785
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,040
when she sang the show by Lenka
during her audition that he not

786
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,680
only cast her as the
protagonist's daughter, but let

787
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,280
her sing the 2008 song twice in
the movie, which was actually

788
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:29,120
set in 2002, sacrificing some of
the historical authenticity.

789
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:35,920
Fact #3 Sony had originally
allocated a much larger budget

790
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,960
for the film, but after director
Steven Soderbergh's departure

791
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,800
over creative differences, the
studio cut cost forcing rewrites

792
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:50,200
and fewer game sequences.
Interesting #3 immediately

793
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,920
stands out to me because I do
think that, like, I've always

794
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,560
wondered if it was simply a
creative choice to film the

795
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,760
baseball scenes that way, as if
they're like on an empty stage

796
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,600
almost, or if it was like truly
budgetary.

797
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,080
So that could be, you know, if
#3 is true, that would make a

798
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,960
lot of sense #2 also sounds true
to me.

799
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,440
Can you just quickly remind me
of what number one was?

800
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,960
He was portrayed as a divorcee,
but he was actually remarried at

801
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,400
the time.
Huh.

802
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,960
It would have been funny if you
were like, he's portrayed as a

803
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,400
lonely divorcee.
Actually, he was a super happy

804
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,360
divorcee.
He was just.

805
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,680
Just out there tearing it up.
That's the one, Swift.

806
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,640
It's like Urban Meyer out there.
Yeah.

807
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:36,480
Oh gosh, although he is married.
Let's see.

808
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,000
You know.
I have no idea.

809
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,320
I I think it's probably either
one or three.

810
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:47,120
I'm going to say #1 is the
falsehood just because if #3 is

811
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,400
the falsehood.
I think you did a really good

812
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,360
job writing it, Brad.
So I want to give credit.

813
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,920
I'm on a good, rewarding, good
writing streak here today.

814
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:58,360
So I'll say 1 is the falsehood.
Well, Bob, you have rewarded me

815
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,840
properly because #3 was the
falsehood and you?

816
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:07,200
Are incorrect man, darn it.
So OK, it sounds like even

817
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:13,280
though that was a falsehood, it
sounds like you also made note

818
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,640
of the way that the action of
the sport is filmed in this

819
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,360
movie.
Yeah, it's not great, Bob.

820
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,240
Yeah, it's not good.
It looks a little cheap, I'm not

821
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:24,080
going to lie.
Yeah, that, that.

822
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,680
Was one of the roughest parts
for me was the the moments where

823
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,080
they are trying to show what's
happening in the game.

824
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:37,320
I think that they were going for
like a let's get rid of all the

825
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:42,120
noise, let's get rid of all the
extras and just show the beauty

826
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,840
of the game.
It it didn't work, it wasn't my

827
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,640
favorite.
No, and I think that you can

828
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,080
accomplish that.
You know, and the sound design

829
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,360
in this movie I think is really
well done because there's a lot

830
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,680
of times where it could like
completely fades out and they

831
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,760
isolate different things.
And so I think you can

832
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:01,240
accomplish most of what they
tried to do visually, you know,

833
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:09,640
orally instead.
And yeah, I just a a UR hourly.

834
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:16,040
Yeah, yeah, sure.
So yeah, I'm with you, man.

835
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,320
I don't think it works very
well.

836
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:22,320
And like the a lot of the stuff
with the actual team I think is

837
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,200
part of the weaker elements of
this movie.

838
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,440
Chris Pratt is really really
good in this movie and it's cool

839
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,000
to see him before his big
breakout on Parks and Rec cause.

840
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,800
Is it crazy that I freaking love
him and oh.

841
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:39,000
He's so good because he again,
like I think this is where the

842
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,960
understated thing works because
his comic timing is really,

843
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,840
really good in this movie.
But they also use his comic

844
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,320
timing for like non comedic
moments where it's like not

845
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,000
necessarily designed to make you
laugh, but it's designed to

846
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,800
under score how unsure of
himself he is.

847
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,480
And I think it like he takes
that up to the extreme with Andy

848
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,320
Dwyer and then with Star Lord.
And here it's just like, here's

849
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,800
a guy who's really struggling to
like find self worth.

850
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,840
And I think he plays it
beautifully.

851
00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:14,800
I don't know who it is, but
whoever plays the brother to

852
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,440
Giambi is it.
What's Jeremy?

853
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:25,600
Jeremy, Jeremy, thank you is
like terrible and perfect.

854
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:30,440
And the image of him dancing in
the clubhouse is like everything

855
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:35,280
I wanted out of this movie.
It was that just killed me.

856
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,720
And the moment when Jonah Hill
is like, like, no, no, don't

857
00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:41,400
trade him.
Like we we we like went to bat

858
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:46,000
for this guy and Brad Pitt looks
at him like trust me, we don't

859
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,920
want this guy anymore.
Is the most well deserved scorn

860
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,720
I think I've ever seen in a
movie.

861
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,560
Philip Seymour Hoffman shows up
in this movie as Art Howe, the

862
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:56,400
manager.
He.

863
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,720
He's got some eyebrows in this
movie, man.

864
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:03,520
Dude, here's why Philip Seymour
Hoffman is like among the goats.

865
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:09,760
He was never above taking a part
that you almost forget he's in.

866
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,680
And I think he does it as a
favor to Bennett Miller.

867
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,200
So Bennett Miller, this is only,
I believe, his second film ever.

868
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,320
And his first, or at least his
first big one was the movie

869
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,760
Capote in 2005, which wins
Philip Seymour Hoffman the

870
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,800
Oscar.
Bennett Miller does not direct

871
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,400
another movie until Moneyball
six years later, but he asked

872
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,520
Philip Seymour Hoffman to come
on board and he does.

873
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,360
And I think that like, again,
it, it's the spotlight thing.

874
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,320
It's he's like the the Marty
Baron of this movie.

875
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,440
It's so understated.
But then you get these little

876
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,880
moments, like the moment that
Chris Pratt's character had a

877
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,840
Berg hits that Homer to win the
20th game.

878
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,240
Even before the music kicks in,
you get a shot where you see the

879
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,040
like the launch angle of the
ball.

880
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,800
And then the first cut is to
Philip Seymour Hoffman in the

881
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,480
dugout.
And it's his immediate reaction

882
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,240
as his eyes raise up and he
realizes this guy's going to hit

883
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:07,840
a Homer.
And it is the most believable

884
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:13,320
facial acting I've ever seen in
a It's just, I just threw my

885
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,480
hands up.
I was like, this dude's the

886
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,200
freaking goat.
It's so good, man.

887
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,600
Yeah.
I have two thoughts.

888
00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:24,440
My first thought is of all the
ways to win a sporting event,

889
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,760
whether it's like a shot from
outside the box and soccer, a

890
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:34,480
Hail Mary, a three pointer to
win it all, I think a home run

891
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:39,440
is the best way to walk off of a
field of battle victorious.

892
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,680
Home runs are just incredible.
It's.

893
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,480
Secondly, oh, it's absolutely
perfect.

894
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:53,400
Secondly, Philip Seymour Hoffman
is perfect in every single way.

895
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:58,400
And I almost expected when he
and Brad Pitt are like fighting

896
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:03,760
about the line up, I expected to
like see it cut to black and

897
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:08,640
then like come up with like Brad
Pitt chained to a chair and you

898
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,200
just have Mission Impossible 3,
Philip Seymour Hoffman looking

899
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,880
at him being like, listen, it's
it's not about the line up.

900
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,040
All right, just.
Counting to 10 with a gun on

901
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,720
Hatteberg.
It's about 7 control you see.

902
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,160
He's so good, man.
I'm, I'm, I'm glad to have him

903
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:29,840
in this movie.
Every time I see him in a movie,

904
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,120
it you know, it makes me sad
that we lost him so young, but

905
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,240
like just so good.
And then you've got Jonah Hill,

906
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,120
who we just talked about a
couple weeks ago in the Wolf of

907
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,960
Wall Street.
And this is this could not be

908
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,680
more polar opposite of a
character.

909
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,200
This is Jonah Hill at his most
insecure.

910
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:51,480
And again, I think I've used the
word understated 58 times on

911
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,360
this episode so far.
But like, that is clearly the

912
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,480
direction that Bennett Miller is
giving everyone in this film

913
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,600
because it enhances the
believability.

914
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,440
It enhances the the idea that
these could be real people.

915
00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:05,880
And his character, spoiler
alert, is not a real person.

916
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,840
He is a he's a mash up of a
couple other different people

917
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,680
and one guy in particular that
apparently did not allow his

918
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,760
name to be used for this film.
And I just, I think he's so

919
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,720
good, man.
I don't know if I like him as

920
00:53:17,720 --> 00:53:21,320
much as I do in The Wolf of Wall
Street, but I think that's just

921
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,920
because he's so much showier in
The Wolf of Wall Street that you

922
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,920
remember it more, you know?
It's interesting, I I feel like

923
00:53:29,240 --> 00:53:31,880
the Wolf of Wall Street
character is actually more

924
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:38,000
similar to this one in certain
ways as far as like his ability

925
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,680
to play a super awkward
character that doesn't always

926
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:46,320
know if he fits into a space.
Like like that describes both

927
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,720
characters in both worlds.
The the direction that he takes

928
00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:54,960
his Moneyball character feels
and ought to feel so much more

929
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:59,640
realistic and honest that I I
really love him in this movie.

930
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,120
I think he is my favorite
performance in this film.

931
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,960
Well, that's a good segue into
talking a little more about Brad

932
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,960
Pitt.
I, I don't know what to make of

933
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,280
this Brad Pitt performance.
Like, he's nominated for best

934
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,480
actor.
And I think that Brad Pitt is

935
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:16,880
just he's a great actor, but he
is so constantly this century,

936
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,160
especially trying to find roles
like this where he can play like

937
00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:24,840
he's almost toying with the idea
of like, how laid back can my

938
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,440
performance be?
And I think it there's varying

939
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,280
levels of success for me with
that.

940
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,640
I actually, I just took a trip
to Las Vegas and I was on the

941
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,480
flight out and I was like, you
know, what I'm gonna watch on

942
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,160
this airplane is Ocean's 11.
And I, you know, you watch a

943
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,560
little bit showier of a
performance there.

944
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,600
He's still not the most over the
top in that movie.

945
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,760
But I think what strikes me
about watching multiple Brad

946
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,920
Pitt performances kind of
back-to-back is that he is like,

947
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,840
I think that like mentally he
tries to find like weird tics to

948
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,720
give his character or, or I
don't know, do something

949
00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:03,000
unexpected.
And sometimes that's like an

950
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,320
outburst and sometimes that's
like a weird facial expression.

951
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,720
And I think in that way, he's
actually more similar to like,

952
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,000
he, he has the same MO.
I feel like as a guy like

953
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,920
Nicolas Cage, but the way that
manifests with Nicolas Cage is

954
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,480
always like, what's the craziest
thing I can do right now?

955
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,920
Whereas with Pitt, it's like,
you know, people always talk

956
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,680
about how he's eating all the
time, like he's always chewing

957
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,640
something In the movie.
He does that a lot.

958
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,240
But I, I wonder, I don't
actually know what his success

959
00:55:30,240 --> 00:55:32,560
rate is when he's making these
weird choices.

960
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:37,720
But the overall effect, I think
works 90% of the time with Brad

961
00:55:37,720 --> 00:55:40,280
Pitt.
And I think it works here in

962
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:47,000
Moneyball.
He is very, very determined and

963
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,920
focused when it comes to his
work.

964
00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:53,000
I think what makes the character
work for me is his interactions

965
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:58,680
with his daughter and the scene
where he's with his ex-wife and

966
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,520
her new husband.
Dude the way that he cuts that

967
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:06,240
guy down the size and he just
looks at it and goes her mother

968
00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:13,760
and I will make that decision.
Oh man it is like so laced with

969
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:18,320
disgust and like I know who I
am.

970
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,960
I am her father.
I am self assured.

971
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,640
I was like blown away at that
moment and it had nothing to do

972
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,760
with the main thrust of the
movie but it was perfect and I

973
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:32,520
loved it.
Also, can I just say, is this

974
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,560
the most beautiful Brad Pitt
we've seen in a movie?

975
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,000
I don't know, Brad Pitt as
Achilles in Troy is pretty

976
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:42,640
pretty.
Beautiful, sure.

977
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,280
I the the slightly shorter hair
I think does it.

978
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,080
For me, OK, I like it.
I like it.

979
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,000
He is a beautiful man.
There's no getting around it.

980
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,440
The, the actor in the scene that
you were talking about is the

981
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,240
actor and director Spike Jones,
who we will be watching one of

982
00:56:57,240 --> 00:56:59,440
his films here in a couple
weeks, the movie Her with

983
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,720
Joaquin Phoenix.
He also was in The Wolf of Wall

984
00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:06,240
Street a couple weeks ago.
Brad, he's the guy in the penny

985
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:10,000
stock place when DiCaprio first
goes in and he's like, if you

986
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,760
sell $10,000 of this stock, I
will personally give you a

987
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,440
blowjob.
That's it's the same guy.

988
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,880
So, you know, just show it up
here again.

989
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:19,680
Hold on a second.
What?

990
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:24,840
What is it with directors that
make random like cameos in other

991
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,760
people's movies?
I don't know, but I love it

992
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,120
because I think he knows exactly
what kind of character he plays.

993
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,520
Well, because it's the same
character in both of these

994
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:33,640
movies.
Yeah.

995
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,240
Beta.
Yeah, Exactly.

996
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,840
Exactly.
All right, man.

997
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,480
So we've gone through the cast
list.

998
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,160
I guess he only.
Go ahead.

999
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:46,360
He plays betas and then he makes
a movie about a guy who can't

1000
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,680
get laid in real life.
So.

1001
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,920
So he's focused on an AI.
The man.

1002
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,680
Oh, sorry, that's just funny to.
Me, I think what we call that is

1003
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,480
self aware, you know?
Sure, yeah.

1004
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:02,160
Totally.
All right, so we've gone through

1005
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,480
the cast list.
The only other major actor in

1006
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,680
this movie is Robin Wright, who
shows up for like 3 seconds as

1007
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,000
his ex-wife.
I honestly, I understand what

1008
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,360
they're trying to do with the
presence of the daughter and

1009
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,880
telling him, you know, singing,
literally singing to him.

1010
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:20,120
Just enjoy the show.
I think that like, including his

1011
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,520
personal life in this movie is
probably the movie's biggest

1012
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,360
mistake because he's clearly not
a very good dad and he was a

1013
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,560
worse husband.
And you can accomplish, like you

1014
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,360
can accomplish that by just
having someone mention that to

1015
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,240
the audience once.
Like just have one phone call

1016
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,320
with Robin Wright where she's
like, you're a shitty dad and a

1017
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:37,680
shitty husband and then that's
it.

1018
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,680
You know?
I don't know that we need 10

1019
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,520
minutes of screen time with his
wife or her new husband or the

1020
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,400
daughter.
Absolutely this.

1021
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:52,240
Actually watching Moneyball
marks one of the rarest feats in

1022
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,800
the film and Whiskey podcast
history.

1023
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,800
Haley watched this movie with
me.

1024
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,840
Oh wow.
It's it's a very rare thing.

1025
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:06,000
And as we got to, she liked it.
She was a little sad at the end

1026
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,920
and she said I feel like he
should have taken the Boston job

1027
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:15,280
because his main like reason not
to was that he didn't want to

1028
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,560
leave his daughter.
But she already had to fly to

1029
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:22,000
see him anyways, so why not just
have her fly to Boston?

1030
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:27,240
Also is there a more like 2001
thing than like sending a child

1031
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,840
unaccompanied on an airplane?
I can't wait to do that someday.

1032
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:35,520
Dude I am 100% going to send my
13 year old on an airplane by

1033
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,760
herself and it's going to be so
good for her.

1034
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:39,160
Yeah, you're going to learn a
lot.

1035
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,000
Get out of here, kid.
Go on.

1036
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,240
Get well on that note, Brad, I
think it's time for us to get

1037
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,080
into our last segment of the
day, which we call Let's Make it

1038
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,040
a Double.
We're near the end of the

1039
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,400
episodes of Things listening to
the film and Whiskey Show.

1040
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:55,400
Let's pair another film with
this one.

1041
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,640
Even if it's struggling.
It's the final segment of the

1042
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,080
day.
Now let's make it a Double.

1043
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,600
Let's make it a Double is
presented by Blackwood

1044
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,040
Distilling Company.
This is the part of the show

1045
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,040
where we pick a movie to pair up
with this one to make the

1046
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,960
perfect double feature.
Brad, I'm really curious which

1047
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,440
direction you went.
With your let's make it a double

1048
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,440
today because I think there's a
couple different ways we could

1049
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,840
go.
The floor is yours, Sir.

1050
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:23,160
I think I am going to pair this
with another film that feels

1051
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:28,560
kind of like a documentary of
realizing of historical events

1052
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:33,800
where they are under the gun to
make something beautiful happen

1053
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:38,280
without any sense that it's
actually going to go right.

1054
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,880
I'm going to pair this with
Apollo 13.

1055
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,840
Oh, nice.
Thanks, man.

1056
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,480
Yeah, I think it would be a
really fun evening.

1057
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,320
I don't think I'm going to.
I'm just going to spoil.

1058
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,840
If you already do, Bob, I don't
think you should pair this with

1059
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:59,720
a baseball movie because I don't
know if Moneyball at its core is

1060
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,640
a baseball movie.
Yeah, even though we did an

1061
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,600
episode a couple years ago that
was top five baseball movies and

1062
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,200
I'm pretty sure Muddy Ball was
our winner.

1063
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,920
So yeah, it feels like we're
we're doing some revisionist

1064
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:12,840
history here now.
Easily.

1065
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,840
I will gladly revise my personal
history, Bob.

1066
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,680
I'm kind of with you in that
like I don't know if it's

1067
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,680
fundamentally a baseball movie,
but I do want to pair it with a

1068
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,560
baseball movie.
And I think that if that's the

1069
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,240
case, then there's only a few
you can really pair it with

1070
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,280
because I want to essentially
focus on baseball action.

1071
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,320
And I think for that I will pair
this week with A League of Their

1072
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,200
Own.
I think you get both sides

1073
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,280
obviously of like front office
and the team with that.

1074
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:44,280
You also round out like what
makes the baseball action so

1075
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:48,000
special in that movie?
But I actually think Moneyball

1076
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:53,280
might do a better job of
capturing or contextualizing why

1077
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,920
we love baseball so much.
You know, it's it's, it's almost

1078
01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:00,080
as good as the James Earl Jones
speech in Field of Dreams.

1079
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,080
But we've also talked on this
podcast, like I don't think

1080
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:05,640
Field of Dreams is really a
baseball movie.

1081
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,080
Like Field of Dreams is a
freaking weird movie that people

1082
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,360
remember like 2 scenes from.
And so I think you can kind of

1083
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:15,040
capture that with Brad Pitt
saying, how can you not be

1084
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,960
romantic about baseball?
And then watching, you know, the

1085
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:23,240
the members of the the ladies of
the All American League doing

1086
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,280
their Rockford Peaches thing.
I'm going to pair it with a

1087
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:29,800
league of their own.
Dude, any chance I have to tell

1088
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:34,480
the public about how funny
watching Tom Hanks with a

1089
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:39,120
baseball club at like a nine
year old kid is, I will

1090
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,880
absolutely take it and say you
need to go watch A League of

1091
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,880
Their Own, if only for that
singular scene.

1092
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,880
Listen, I don't really buy into
the like, you know, we've gone

1093
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,800
soft theory, but I don't think
you get away with that scene in

1094
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,640
2025.
We no, you have to bring back

1095
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,920
hitting children in the face
with baseball gloves, right?

1096
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:07,360
Dude, it's fascinating to think
that like I feel like we've kind

1097
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:12,760
of hit on a theme in our in our
season, because when I think

1098
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:19,040
about Moneyball, it's this idea
of like an underdog who has a

1099
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:23,000
lot of insight into an industry
that comes out on top.

1100
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,560
Like, tell me that couldn't
describe The Big Short.

1101
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,880
Tell me it couldn't describe
Ford V Ferrari.

1102
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,920
Tell me it couldn't describe
Spotlight Whiplash.

1103
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,200
Like I I feel like a lot of the
movies we have highlighted from

1104
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:46,720
the last 25 years kind of fall
into this vein of outsiders or

1105
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:50,440
underdogs that want to prove
their greatness.

1106
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:54,520
I I don't know if I'm like
grasping for straws here, but it

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it seems interesting to me.
Absolutely.

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01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,960
And I think that's like that's a
major theme of what has made the

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01:03:59,960 --> 01:04:01,560
great movies great over the
years.

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01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:05,040
Like that's a that's a Mr. Smith
Goes to Washington kind of

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01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,200
movie.
That's a 12 Angry Men kind of a

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01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,000
movie.
It like, yeah, it it makes a lot

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01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:11,280
of sense when you frame it that
way.

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01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaking Speaking of 12 angry
men, I watched juror #2 the

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01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:17,560
other day.
What'd you think, man?

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01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,240
Oh, I was good.
It's a good movie.

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01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:23,120
Here's.
The problem?

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01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:28,160
It's Clint Eastwood trying to
make a 12 Angry Men.

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01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:33,120
And Clint Eastwood does not have
a nuanced bone in his body,

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01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:36,040
especially at like 93.
Well, first of all, I don't know

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01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,480
that I would call 12 Angry Men
especially nuanced in the

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01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,480
arguments it's trying to make.
But I think what Eastwood's

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01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,680
doing there is he's like, I'm
going to make kind of ACD 90s

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01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:48,680
thriller.
And it was marketed as like one

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01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,280
man stands for justice.
Like, that's not even remotely

1126
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:52,640
what that movie's about, you
know?

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01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,280
Sure.
So yeah, I'm glad you watched

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01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:56,520
it, though, man.
And and.

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01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,840
With that, I liked it.
It's like a 7 1/2 out of 10.

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01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,800
Oh, for sure, but I but like
it's a good 7 1/2.

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01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,680
So with that, let's say that
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01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,480
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Thanks again, Zach, for joining

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01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,000
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I'm super excited to continue

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01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,800
drinking all of these whiskeys
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01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:29,520
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Folks, in a few weeks he will be

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01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,800
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Rabbit.

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Thanks again, Blackwood Brad,

1148
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,400
it's time for final scores.
I think I already said that I've

1149
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,000
been in an 8 1/2 on this movie
for a really long time.

1150
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:03,320
It's starting to click into
place why I think this movie is

1151
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:07,080
so quote UN quote, perfectly
structured.

1152
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,920
I'm just having the spotlight
problem again here, and I think

1153
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,000
that I'm going to give it a nine
out of 10, but I don't know if

1154
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:18,600
my actual enjoyment level or
entertainment level will ever

1155
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:23,000
let me go higher than that.
Yeah, I Bob, I'm sitting at an 8

1156
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,200
out of 10.
I think this is a really fun,

1157
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:31,760
interesting, solid movie.
There's just not enough oomph to

1158
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,720
it to make me want to give it a
higher score.

1159
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:38,280
And then, and there's more than
enough like average elements to

1160
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:42,040
the film, like 6 1/2, seven out
of 10 elements to the film that

1161
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:46,880
I'm like, yeah, it has some
great pieces, some great acting.

1162
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,840
Like if you take Philip Seymour
Hoffman out of this movie, it's

1163
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,240
like a 7 out of 10 for me, 7 1/2
maybe.

1164
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:58,400
So like that there's elements
that raise it beyond where it

1165
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,640
ought to be.
I, I, I don't think it's

1166
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:07,240
actually a truly great film, but
it's really enjoyable and really

1167
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,920
fun and an easy way to pass.
I, I think it's like an hour and

1168
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,800
50 minutes, I want to say so.
Yeah, Great.

1169
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,800
Like, great movie, not
overbearing, really fun to

1170
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,320
watch.
And truly the the scene when

1171
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:25,640
Pitt and his assistant are at
Hatteberg's house and they're

1172
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:30,240
talking about how hard it is to
play for a space is incredible.

1173
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,680
So I yeah, there's a lot to love
here. 8 out of 10 for me.

1174
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,120
All right, Brad, so let's answer
the question.

1175
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:37,800
Is this a modern classic for
you?

1176
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,280
No.
Yeah, once again, I'm gonna give

1177
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,560
my sports movie caveat.
You got mad at me when I did

1178
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,480
this for Creed, but I think it
applies here too.

1179
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,800
Like, there are not a lot of
good sports movies in the 21st

1180
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:52,240
century.
So on that criteria, it kind of

1181
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,880
automatically qualifies.
I think if we're just talking

1182
01:07:54,880 --> 01:08:00,200
like, let's pick the 30 or 40
best movies of the 21st century,

1183
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,680
then that's a no really good
movie.

1184
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,080
But it, you know, it's just not
quite there for me.

1185
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,640
So folks, that's where we're at
on Moneyball.

1186
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,240
We're coming to an 8.5 out of 10
on average.

1187
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,280
But we'd like to hear what you
think.

1188
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,000
You can find us on any of our
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1189
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,920
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1190
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,040
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Or if you want to join the

1191
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,800
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1192
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,920
We're on there every single day
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1193
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,800
and all sorts of other things.
You can find a link to the

1194
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,760
server at the end of every
single one of our show notes.

1195
01:08:35,319 --> 01:08:38,800
Next week we'll be back talking
with our friend Zach Johnston

1196
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:42,560
about the movie JoJo Rabbit, a
film that Brad and I really

1197
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,720
enjoyed and it seems like the
entire Internet hates at this

1198
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,680
point.
Should be a fun conversation,

1199
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,359
Brad.
I'm looking forward to that one.

1200
01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:52,680
So join us for JoJo Rabbit next
week, but until then, I'm Bob

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01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,439
Book.
I'm Brad G.

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01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,160
And we'll see you next time.