Modern Times / Widow Jane Lucky 13 Bourbon

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In 1936 director and star.
Charlie Chaplin gave the world.

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A grimly humorous.
Look at the then modern world.

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And the difficulty of getting
ahead, which totally is an

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old-fashioned problem that we
don't deal with anymore in 2023.

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We try a well aged bourbon from
the heart of the Metropolis.

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The film is modern times.
The whiskey is Widow, Jane.

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Lucky 13 and more of you them
both this is the filling whiskey

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podcast.
East.

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Welcome to the film and whiskey
podcast.

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Where each week, we review a
classic movie and a glass of

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whiskey.
I'm Bob book, I'm Brad G.

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And this week we are rounding
out our toward a Lynn with his

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1936 Masterpiece modern times.
Mmm.

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Bob, before we get into that, I
have I have stunning news for

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you, that I think you'll
appreciate.

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All right.
Listen, I don't want to step on

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your news, but last time you
made a big announcement on this

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show, it was that you made a
really good burrito.

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Yeah, I did.
I'm sure it was incredible, sure

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it was great.
Is this more or less important

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than your burrito?
I think that you personally will

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find it more important.
All right, let's hear it.

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I Bradley G have been now as of
today, this morning, in fact, to

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Ikea OCH first time at Ikea
first time that I really never

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been to Ikea before not a single
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There's one, like, 30 minutes
from my house.

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Dude.
Ikea's wonderful.

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Yeah, I have been there now and
I can tell you without a shadow

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of a doubt that place sucks.
No, come on, dude.

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It's the worst like the a the
carts have forecasters on them.

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What are you doing?
Like, figure out how to make a

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cart Sweden.
Secondly, you just wander around

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and you're just lost in this
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And there's like it's the most
capitalistic thing I've ever

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seen a bunch of liberals fall in
love with ever like it.

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It's the most consumeristic like
the it's consumerism perfected

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like hey, you think you could
live in this cool little 300

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square foot apartment.
Here's all the stuff you could

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spend your money on and yet for
some reason it just feels like

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people across the land that are
a little more, left-leaning love

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this place and I just I don't
get it, man, the Communist

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Utopia.
That is like you, yeah, although

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you're right, it is a more, of a
capitalist Utopia so much so

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that they're You never have to
leave, come eat meatballs

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example, he view stocked full of
protein so that you can purchase

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more things Brad.
I never not did not like Ikea.

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I never expected that you would
be the person railing against

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capitalism on this podcast, but
here we are.

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And then you went home and
watched modern times, I did, it

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seems like you have a kindred
spirit here in Sir, Charles

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Chaplin.
I just might Bob, mmm.

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Brad.
No less than four weeks ago.

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You had never seen a silent
film.

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And now you have seen three of
them and a bonus fourth.

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Non silent film from Charlie
Chaplin although this one, you

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know.
It technically has dialogue,

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voiced by chart, you know,
surprise.

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Yeah, there's there's a nice
little breadcrumb, not

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breadcrumbs.
What's the word?

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Just some nice little Easter
eggs thrown in by Charlie

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Chaplin as we've said a few
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Now he makes this movie nine
years after the Advent of the

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sound film.
And everyone else has moved on

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at this point.
And Charlie.

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Chaplin really digs his heels in
and says, I can't make the Tramp

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talk, I can't do it, it will
completely ruin the mystery and

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the illusion that I have
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With this character.
I'm gonna give him one final,

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send off and he's gonna, he's
gonna remain a silent character.

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And I really think Brad before
we talk about anything else

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with, you know, this movie or
this character, I think it was

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the right choice, even if it was
way way, way out of the norm in

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1936, So yeah, I think it fits
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honest, based on his first full
production, sound film, The

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Great Dictator, I think that
this film is better off, not

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being a sound film.
Hmm.

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Yeah, I agree like I I think
that Charlie should have held

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back a little bit, and just made
a few, like, short, 30-minute

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films or something that that had
sound and dialogue and all that,

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before he dove into a
feature-length, be picture.

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I love it when there's like a
hangover from the prior week,

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when you're like, still not done
talking about, whatever it was,

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that was irking you with last
week's film.

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And now we're back in here and
you're like, no, no, I'm not

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ready to let go of my my
problems with the Great Dictator

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yet.
Well, that's what I'm saying

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though.
If you had done this as a sound

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film, it would have suffered and
this is a pretty good movie and

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I would have hated to see that.
So I'm just trying to give him a

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little friendly advice.
There you go.

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All right, Brad.
Let's let's dive into talking

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about the movie.
I have said for four weeks now,

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this is probably my favorite
Charlie Chaplin movie.

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I really am excited to talk
about the differences between

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this and City Lights.
This is the first movie he makes

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After City Lights.
There's a five-year Gap in the

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release of those movies in
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He kind of Terrence Malick.
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Right in between the two, he
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sorts.
He meets with a bunch of

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dignitaries, he visits a lot of
different countries, and he sees

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the effects of the Great
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And how It has tanked the
world's economy and how people

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all over the world, who know
this iconic character of the

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Tramp are all suffering
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And he realizes, I've got to
make my movie be about this.

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And so, you know, we've seen him
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back in time in the gold rush.
And now we see him not just set

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it in, you know, what could be
contemporary like it wasn't city

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lights but to really, honestly
say, no, this is right now like

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you see Billboards that Say the
year like 1935 scattered

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throughout this movie when they
were filming it and not only is

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this right now but this guy the
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what we're going through right
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I think it really is kind of a
foreshadowing of the timeliness

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that he really leans into with
the Great Dictator that he's not

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setting this in some sort of
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where the Great Depression isn't
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He's going through exactly what
the audience is going through.

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Yeah and it fits with what's
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And I think that's reflected in
the way he continues to fight to

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try and get back up, but keeps
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And if you, if you really wanted
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movie to anything, you'd
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ending of Grapes of Wrath.
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Yeah.
Like the way that it's great

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point.
I didn't think about that, dude.

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I am full of great points.
Not only are you full of great

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points?
You quoted The Immortal bards

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Chumbawamba in your Dissertation
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He gets knocked down but he gets
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You're never gonna keep him
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You sure won't man.
Yeah he probably takes a lager

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drink at some point.
All right man.

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I think it's time for our first
segment of the day which we call

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Brad explains Brad's gonna give
us the movie plots with only 60

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seconds ticking on the clock.
So let's go ahead and kill you

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take with this little segment
that we call Brad explains.

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Brad explains is the part of the
podcast where Ad breaks down the

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plot of the movie that he has
just seen often for the first

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time.
This is very obviously, Brad's

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first time seeing modern times,
I'm really excited to see what

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you do with, Brad explains
because there's a lot of like,

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there's a lot of stuff that
happens in this movie.

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I don't know if you can quite
capture every single scene in 60

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seconds, so let's just kind of
see where you go from here.

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Brad!
You've got one minute on the

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clock spoil, this movie for us
and go.

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Our beloved, Tramp is working as
a factory worker and experiences

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a nervous breakdown when he's
subject to ridiculous working

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conditions because of this, he's
sent to a psych hospital when

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he's released.
He finds himself in prison

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because he's leading a strike in
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He stops a not a robbery a
breakout from happening and is

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let out on good behavior and he
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job but then being Fortunately,
forced out of the job, due to

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circumstances Beyond his
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He works as a night Watchman at
a department store, he works

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where I'll he works as a on the
boat dock for like a hot minute.

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He works as a waiter in a
singing restaurant and

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consistently.
He finds himself down on his

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luck, not being able to get
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He meets and falls in love with
a obviously like teenage girl

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who looks like she's 30 25
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world together, and by the
world, I mean, his heart on his

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luck life.
There you go.

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There's modern times folks.
Yeah, Brad.

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I really want to hear your
thoughts on the movie itself.

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I was recently re watching a
clip that we've referenced

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throughout the seasons of this
show, and it's a clip of the

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writers of the show, South Park,
Matt Stone and Trey Parker.

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And they're talking about how
when you are writing, this was

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for television but just in
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When you're writing a script,
the things that connect your

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scenes together should never be
the words and then this happens.

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And then this happens.
And then this happens, it makes

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for no dramatic Arc and you
always need to have in between

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your scenes, so or but this
happens, but this happens.

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So this happens instead and I
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thing that I would ding that
movie for is that it doesn't

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always necessarily feel like
like each scene is a logical you

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know, building off of the prior
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Where is in this movie even
though it's very clear sometimes

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at the scenes are just there to
set up a gag I think Chaplin

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does a much better job of
putting the Tramp in a position

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where everything has a cause to
it and there's like a ton of

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causality throughout the film.
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The the story keeps him moving
along in such a way that even

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when stuff is happening to him.
and he doesn't really have

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agency in what's going on the,
the stream of events is logical

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and Everybody's actions make
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the police throw him in jail,
it's like well, based on their

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perspective, it makes sense why
they threw him in jail and based

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on Chaplin, you know, the tramps
perspective, it makes sense.

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Why he he just considers
himself, someone who is going to

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get ahead of entually someday.
He is going to have a house with

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oranges and grapes growing
outside the windows and a

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trained cow who can just you
know, squirt, milk Abyssal

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man's?
Yeah, I can.

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Milk itself.
Yeah, he's gonna chief that

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dream someday, man.
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And I think the thing that I
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was that, even though everything
that happens as kind of

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cyclical, we've already
mentioned that it seems every

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time he gets ahead, there is
some unfortunate happenstance

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that ends up winding him back in
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He goes to jail like four times
throughout this movie, it's

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essentially like playing a game
of Monopoly, like he's just

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always Landing in jail and he
gets back out and he starts to

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Some solved by many gets thrown
back in jail again, and I feel

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like it could get really really
repetitive and really like it

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could get grading after a while
and yet Chaplin keeps finding

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fresh ways of making it seem
like everything has a cause and

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effect to it.
And I guess that's one of the

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things that I wanted to point
out because I think there's some

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really solid writing going on in
this movie, not just from like a

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gag standpoint.
But overall structure really, I

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think this movie is a little
more solid than City Lights I am

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with you.
I just found myself board

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throughout this film.
Whoa, no, Brad.

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I didn't want to wait till the
very end to drop the bomb on you

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Bobby, but this movie just
didn't move at a pace that felt

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invigorating or felt like I kept
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I found myself multiple times
throughout just kind of looking

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at the clock being like man.
We've been doing this whole food

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machine thing for for quite a
bit of time now, haven't we?

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And it feels like every Go gag
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Like the the worst one by far
was the feeding of the man who's

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like poking out of the machine
and it just goes on and on and

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then on a little longer and I'm
like, I get it.

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You're feeding him coffee
through a chicken now.

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Like, it's, it's funny.
Sure.

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And I think that's, I mean,
we'll get it to my overall

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thoughts on chaplain in the
episode about him.

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But, Overall with chaplain I
think I like him as a silent

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film director.
Much more than these hybrid

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films or a talky film.
There's just I don't know.

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The the Gold Rush hit for me man
and all three of the other ones

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are fine and good and
interesting but not they're not

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my style man.
Wow wow Brad, I I really hate

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that you feel that way and it
bums me out, I was super excited

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for you to be.
Exposed to Chaplin and I thought

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that this would work better for
you than it did.

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And it's especially a coming off
of like, you know, we just

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re-watched Some Like It Hot for
our patrons and did a review of

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that movie and there's so much
physical comedy in that movie,

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but Brad, I was trying to
prepare myself for the

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eventuality that you may not
like this movie.

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Because usually, the ones that I
hold most near and dear to my

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heart somehow, don't work on
your cold, robot heart.

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And so, I was thinking about it
like this, it kind of reminds me

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of Early Beatles music like, you
know, up to and including Like A

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Hard Day's Night and then you
kind of get into their, like

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their middle period, where they
like discover marijuana and not

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young, not yet LSD, but
definitely marijuana revolver.

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Yeah.
And then you've got late-era

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beetles, which is my favorite
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the, Let It Be album and Abbey
Road.

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Like, I'd for, you know, and if
the White Album, if you really

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want to include that like 100 by
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Beatles era and I would kind of
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Like if we're just looking at
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that's like early-to-mid Beatles
to me, you know what I mean?

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Like, it's not super complicated
or complex and I, for some

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reason, I've just always been
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Modern Times And especially
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because the gags in this movie
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I think that it takes it's such
a high wire act to be able to

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pull off some of these gags and
especially like, my favorite

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part of the movie happens.
I don't know, 10 minutes into

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the movie and it's that feeding
machine, which I don't think it

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goes on too long at all.
I think it's like probably would

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be in my top 5 moments of Comedy
ever in a movie.

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It's just, it is perfect
physical comedy, but it also has

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like four minutes of setup of
them going into the CEO of the

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factories office to demo this
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To them picking out Charlie
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Getting him strapped into it
before you get to the machine

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malfunctioning.
There is so much set up to that

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and it's like you have to be
able to deliver the goods with

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that much set up and I think
time and time again with this

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movie.
Chaplain does that.

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And so I can see why you like
the Gold Rush a lot better

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because that is all that's like
immediate set up and pay off.

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It's like, oh, there's a bear in
the cabin and now we're going to

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fight a bear and it's like,
that's all the setup you need.

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And You get three minutes of
humor of him fighting a bear or

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whatever.
But for me, I just think that

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the, the elaborate nature of all
of these running gags in the

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movie, just kind of pushes this
movie over the edge for me into

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being my favorite one.
Bob, is you've just elaborately

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described.
I'm a simple man.

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With simple tastes.
I don't have any any

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understanding of the, the
avant-garde nature of later.

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Charlie Chaplin not at all.
I think that for me, You lose a

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lot of the life that chaplain
brings to the screen when you

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have these long complicated
setups and payoffs.

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And it's not that he isn't a,
it's not that he is an

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incredible actor and, and has
that physical comedy, you know,

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nailed down, pat, I think it's
the fact that there's just not

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enough life in these films.
And for me, the places where

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this movie worked best was when
Paulette Goddard was on the

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screen.
Yeah, let's talk.

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About her.
She is incredible in this movie

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so I try and tell you last week
man cuz she's in The Great

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Dictator.
Yeah.

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Albeit in a much smaller role
and the funny thing is that

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movie is significantly longer
than its against a least 40

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minutes longer than this movie.
But I feel like you barely see

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Paulette Goddard I'm sure she
has like an equivalent amount of

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screen time but there's just
something about the Vibrance of

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her character in this.
She is just a ball of energy and

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she's matching the Tramp beat
for beat.

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I just like and and the way he
shoots her, the way the he

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lights her even when she has
like this greasy, stringy hair

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of this kind of waif-like
creature on the docks.

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She's just freaking gorgeous man
and like it, you know, by far.

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I think it's the best female
pairing of any of the four

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movies that we watched from
Chaplin.

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Yeah.
And she is the reason this movie

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stayed afloat, I think that as
you get Bogged down in Chaplin's

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political perspective and the
way, he utilizes it, very

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obviously, throughout the movie
just kind of slows down too much

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and, and it struggles, but as
soon as Paulette Goddard gets on

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screen and they're just focused
on them dreaming and being in

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love and scheming and finding
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I found myself completely
enraptured in the story and I

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think that's my, that's my
struggle with this film.

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Is that there's There's two
clear of a divide between the

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story of you know, the the young
girl in the Tramp and their love

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story and chaplain trying to be
a politician or you know, a

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political satirist at the very
least.

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Yeah.
It just doesn't work for me.

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It's too much.
He's trying to do too much, man.

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I'm going to keep pushing your
criticisms to the back burner

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and talk about other things
because we pay, if you got to

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find a way to fill out the
runtime here before you Just

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crap all over one of my favorite
movies and I think that I want

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to talk about her character a
little bit more in that this is

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the first movie, you know, of
the four that we've watched

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where it is, like the Tramp has
a companion throughout the whole

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movie.
And every time he goes to jail,

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she's there waiting for him when
he gets out and it's it follows.

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I guess what I would say is like
a much more conventional rom-com

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kind of template than any of the
other movies do.

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Even though they're all, you
know, romances quote-unquote and

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they all have comedy in them.
This feels very much like the

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Tramp is dating somebody.
And I don't think we've ever

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really seen that.
To this point.

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What did you think of just that
Dynamic Brad?

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That it wasn't so much him
pining for a girl and maybe

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getting her at the end of the
movie, but that she was like,

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side-by-side with him throughout
so much of it.

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I think that's what made the
movie have a driving force.

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Like, they are partners in
crime.

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They're trying to figure this
out together.

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And I think that speaks to the
deepest element of the human

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soul that like yearns for
community in times of difficulty

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and, and stress.
And so, in the midst of all of

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the Tramp struggles throughout
this, you know, once he meets

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her, I don't know, 30, 40
minutes into the film.

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Once they connect and stay
together the rest of the movie,

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everything about it is
incredible.

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Like when, when she meets him
after his probably, I think his

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Last time in jail, she is
wearing nice clothes for the

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first time because she found a
job as a as a dancing.

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Waitress and even in that moment
like you can see the element of

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baby driver like when when he
finally gets out of jail and

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she's waiting for him in a
beautiful dress and they go off

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into the sunset together.
Like there's this element of It

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just speaks to the the core
desire of humans to be

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connected.
And she has so much life and so

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much energy that I'm 100% bought
in on that element of this film.

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Alright.
I think that in all of the

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episodes we've done on chaplain
so far and this is kind of

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something that when we do
comedies I always feel like we

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back load the episode with stuff
about the comedy because we get

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too bogged down and talking
about the details of the A movie

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on the front end.
So I want to flip that around

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today.
I can tell that you're not a

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huge fan of this movie Brad, but
I imagine that there were at

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least a couple gags that really
worked for you in this movie

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because there's so many of them.
So, before we go to break, why

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don't we talk about what pieces
of Comedy, or which gags worked

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for you, which piece of Comedy
are gags.

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Worked for me.
I think that the the food

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machine is funny but the setup
took so long that it detracted

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for me.
Just just the scene of him being

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fed food is incredible.
And it puts on show.

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What we talked about in the Gold
Rush episode when he does the

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little dancing with, you know,
the little feet on Chopsticks

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basically.
Yeah.

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Like it's that all over again.
Like your clothes up to his face

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every single time that silly
like mouth washing thing that

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like wipes, his mouth off comes
to them, they like surprises in

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it.
It's just perfect.

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And I think that's where his
comedy is at its best and when

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they put the.
So the whole setup of this thing

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is like this company has
invented a feeding machine, so

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that workers really never even
need to leave the assembly line.

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They can basically get strapped
into this, this big turntable

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with food on it and the Machine
feeds the worker hands-free.

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And of course, they try it out
on Charlie Chaplin and

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everything.
Goes awry.

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And one of the items on this big
like, turntable is an ear of

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corn.
And he's, 'I think this corn on

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the cob and it's like rotating
as he's eating it and it starts

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to malfunction and it's going
faster and faster and faster.

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And then it's sliding back and
forth across his face and just

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see his nose contorting.
And it finally it finally stops

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after it's like scrambled his
brains and you get a moment of

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respite and then it goes right
back into it again and it's the

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timing of that and they finally
get this thing down after 30

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seconds of, you know, No abuse
from this ear of corn.

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And then this the little sponge
just slowly comes over to wipe

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his mouth again.
Every time they use that little

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like napkin thing on a swivel.
It's like the perfect amount of

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like just slow like defeat you
don't hit me at.

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I just think that the way that
that scene is choreographed is

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just beautiful, it's so funny.
It kind of reminds me of the

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Timing of When Harry Met Sally,
when they're at the football

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game and it's like the punch
line hits when they're doing the

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line every single time the wave
hits their part of the stadium.

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Yeah.
And it feels like that.

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There's like three or four times
where it comes over to wipe his

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face and it's just adding insult
to injury, right?

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One little throwaway gag that I
was losing it over, is what it

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is.
When he takes the little hand

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auger and he cuts holes into the
cheese, Make a little slice of

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Swiss cheese something that's
not swiss cheese.

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Yeah, that I don't know why out
of all the gags in this film,

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that one killed me because it
took like seven seconds and you

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don't totally get what he's
doing at first.

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But then you see him chop it off
and like, look at it and you're

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like, oh, you just made such
ease and that, that was probably

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my favorite gag in the whole
film.

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If anyone out there has never
seen a movie this old, and I

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would, Imagine that most of our
audience has never seen a movie

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from 1936 or before.
Don't ever let anybody tell you

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that they weren't dealing with
modern problems because this

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movie, that was shown to men,
women and children in 1936

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contains an extended sequence
where in chaplain is high on

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cocaine and he, yeah, like I,
like, Charlie Chaplin on cocaine

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is the funniest thing in the
world to me because so, he's in,

445
00:26:15,300 --> 00:26:18,500
he's in jail, and he's in the
mess hall, he's eating his food.

446
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,900
Food in the guy next to him sees
that the heat is on and he's

447
00:26:22,900 --> 00:26:26,100
being suspected of smuggling in
cocaine, which he did, he puts

448
00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:28,100
it in, what looks like a salt
shaker.

449
00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:30,200
But I think it's being used as
like parmesan cheese or

450
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,500
something, men and chaplain,
unknowingly picks it up and salt

451
00:26:34,500 --> 00:26:37,900
his food with it, and then
starts eating his food and the

452
00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:40,800
face he makes when the cocaine
hits is.

453
00:26:41,500 --> 00:26:45,100
Well, I think you could fool,
the Imagine surfing what he's

454
00:26:45,100 --> 00:26:48,600
seeing it is so funny and I
guess it's one of those things.

455
00:26:48,700 --> 00:26:52,000
Where, you know, the the Hays
code that we talked about this

456
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,400
idea of like the the film
sensors that became prevalent in

457
00:26:55,700 --> 00:26:58,200
American Cinema from the late
30s, all the way through to the

458
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:03,700
1960s, we're just being put in
place and chaplain really,

459
00:27:03,900 --> 00:27:06,200
obviously really railed against
the censorship of it.

460
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,800
But I think sometimes when you
go back and watch movies this

461
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,200
old you think that the farther
back you go, the more quaint the

462
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,400
more unrealistic they'll be and
it's just really funny to me

463
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,900
because if you go back far
enough you get back to being

464
00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:24,800
before the times when they
started censoring stuff and then

465
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,500
you can just have a scene where
a guy is high on cocaine and

466
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,100
like there's there's something
about watching a movie this old

467
00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:33,200
and seeing the cocaine scene
that you're like oh we're just

468
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,200
watching a we're just watching
The Wolf of Wall Street.

469
00:27:35,300 --> 00:27:37,000
It's just you know, 90 years
ago.

470
00:27:38,300 --> 00:27:42,900
Yeah, the the reality is he
stops a prison break out because

471
00:27:42,900 --> 00:27:46,600
he's high on cocaine, he gets
completely drunk in the

472
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,600
department store and is fired
because of it like it.

473
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,400
The, the the themes that they
bring out in this film, I was

474
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:59,200
like Blown Away by because they
have a title card or, you know,

475
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,900
a subtitle card during the
cocaine scene.

476
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,300
And they just what, I forget,
the term that they use was it

477
00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:10,700
knows power.
Nose powder that was like whoa

478
00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:12,800
whoa whoa.
It's Charlie talking about

479
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,800
cocaine here and sure enough
he's dummy.

480
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:22,000
Okay, sure is nothing man.
No, I think the overarching

481
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,800
message is when stuff gets hard
you need to abuse hard drugs,

482
00:28:26,900 --> 00:28:28,400
right?
Like that's it that's the

483
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,900
lesson.
We need to take away from

484
00:28:29,900 --> 00:28:30,600
Charlie Chan.
Yeah.

485
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,000
If your nose isn't just
plastered with white powder, I

486
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,000
mean that would be part of the
whole gag is.

487
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,100
He's like He's salting a thing
and then he wipes his nose and

488
00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:42,400
he just yeah there's Coke all
over his face.

489
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,000
It's great.
All right man.

490
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,400
Well on that note it is time for
us to indulge in addictive

491
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,400
substances and we're going to
try some Widow, Jane Lucky 13.

492
00:28:52,500 --> 00:28:56,500
What do you say?
Did my buddy went on like a full

493
00:28:56,500 --> 00:29:00,900
everything fast for 14 days and
he continued to not drink

494
00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:04,800
alcohol for like another 14 days
after that and he was just like,

495
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,500
dude, I had a drink of whiskey
the other day.

496
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,300
Day and it tasted like poison.
And I was like, yeah, it

497
00:29:11,300 --> 00:29:13,700
literally is poisonous when it's
delicious.

498
00:29:14,500 --> 00:29:16,600
Let's drink some delicious
poison together bread.

499
00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:24,700
Let's get to it.
All right.

500
00:29:24,700 --> 00:29:26,300
So today we are checking out
Widow.

501
00:29:26,300 --> 00:29:29,900
Jane Lucky 13.
This is the first time we've

502
00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:31,600
tried Widow, Jane on this
podcast.

503
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,200
I've been really, really wanting
to try it for a long time.

504
00:29:34,900 --> 00:29:38,400
Lisa, Roper wicker, who used to
be their Master distiller, just

505
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,300
moved back to Kentucky and she
is at Town Branch.

506
00:29:41,300 --> 00:29:43,700
Now, she's going to be their
Master distiller, and so we

507
00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:45,700
missed out on her.
I really wanted her to come on

508
00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:48,100
the show and I was like, oh,
we'll plan a whole episode

509
00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:51,900
around interviewing her and And
drinking some Widow Jane and it

510
00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:54,700
never materialized Brad.
And so we've had a sample of

511
00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:58,400
Widow Jane sitting in our homes,
for probably, I don't know, two

512
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,200
years.
Now this sample that we're

513
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,400
drinking today was sent to us by
our friend, Austin Dupree, who

514
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,400
you can find on social media at
bourbon earring.

515
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,400
This is like I said, it's called
lucky thirteen.

516
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,100
It's a 13 year old barrel of
whiskey.

517
00:30:12,100 --> 00:30:16,000
The one that you can typically
pick up off shelves is a blend.

518
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,800
But this one were drinking.
Today is a barrel pick that was

519
00:30:20,100 --> 00:30:22,200
By the bourbon Society of Baton
Rouge.

520
00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:26,700
So Brad, we typically don't like
to review Whiskey's that are

521
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:30,100
labeled as like Single Barrel
just because I hate that like

522
00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:33,000
we're only ever going to review
whiskey once, right, if we hate

523
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,400
what it tastes like, we're not
going to recommend it and we

524
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,600
always put the caveat on it
that, yes, this is from one

525
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,400
single barrel, there's variance.
You know, from Barrel the

526
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,400
barrel.
I don't mind doing it like this

527
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,600
case.
Yeah, it's not one single barrel

528
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,600
from two years ago.
Well yeah, but also I don't mind

529
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,200
doing It this way.
Because if we like this, I think

530
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,000
that we can really heartily
recommend it and then what

531
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,300
people are getting off, the
shelves is essentially the small

532
00:30:58,300 --> 00:31:01,100
batch version of that.
So there's less variance and I

533
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:03,300
kind of like doing it this way
more than I like doing it the

534
00:31:03,300 --> 00:31:05,400
other way.
So, I'm really excited to dive

535
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,700
into this, man.
I'm sure that you have tried

536
00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:10,200
this already.
I'm trying it live on air.

537
00:31:10,500 --> 00:31:12,100
Do you have any thoughts on it
before?

538
00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:14,800
We just Dive Right In.
Not a single one.

539
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,200
I didn't take any notes.
I just have a final score for

540
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,500
you.
Bob once again, a man of Simple

541
00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:26,900
Pleasures, and thought us, Bob,
this is a delicious whiskey that

542
00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:29,600
I'm excited for you to get into
the color on.

543
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:34,800
This bad boy is very deep, very
dark, almost a reddish Hue,

544
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,400
which I really like, I don't
really know what to make of

545
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,500
that, but it looks damn cool in
my glass.

546
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,300
I like your take their papa.
What does it look like, damn,

547
00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:48,400
cool.
And cool.

548
00:31:48,900 --> 00:31:51,000
This is really spicy on the
nose.

549
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,200
I like it a lot.
It has like a ton of Oak spice

550
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,200
to it.
I don't know if that makes

551
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,300
sense.
Like Oak is not a spice, but it

552
00:31:57,300 --> 00:32:01,400
smells Dusty and smells like,
you know, newly charred Barrel,

553
00:32:01,700 --> 00:32:05,300
but it has kind of a floral
almost saw Dusty kind of thing

554
00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:08,100
going on as well.
I think there's quite a bit of

555
00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:11,700
vanilla on this, but it, I don't
know.

556
00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:15,000
Brad, it almost reminds me of
that sort of, like, rose that I

557
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,900
get on, will it products
sometimes, but with a much more

558
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,600
potent, Kind of prickly cinnamon
to go with it, too.

559
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,600
I like this, a lot on the nose.
Yeah, I really enjoyed this.

560
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,700
I myself found a lot of cherry
on the nose.

561
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:34,300
There was caramel, there is
vanilla the oakiness came

562
00:32:34,300 --> 00:32:40,200
through after a few noses of it
and then like, as I spent time

563
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:45,000
with it I got creamsicle like it
like a really sugary creamy

564
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,400
orange note and then it just hit
me out of nowhere like a freight

565
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,500
train.
And all the peanut butter in the

566
00:32:51,500 --> 00:32:54,000
world.
Like just the creamiest peanut

567
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,800
butter knows I think I've ever
smelled it on a whiskey.

568
00:32:57,300 --> 00:32:59,100
I give it a 9 out of 10 on the
nose Bob.

569
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,700
Yeah, I'm going to stick it in
eight and a half for right now,

570
00:33:01,700 --> 00:33:04,700
just because it's continuing to
open up for me.

571
00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:07,300
I think if anything the one
thing I can say about this is

572
00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:10,300
it's a really complex nose and I
think that the bourbon Society

573
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,000
picked a really good Barrel,
just in terms of finding

574
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,700
complexity, so eight and a half
for me. 94, Brad let's dive into

575
00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:19,800
the taste.
Yeah, on the tasty.

576
00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:24,800
I got a bunch of cherry caramel
vanilla, all the nice things.

577
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:30,200
The peanut butter turned into a
true peanut flavor for me, but

578
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,900
the, the overwhelming flavor I
got on.

579
00:33:32,900 --> 00:33:36,800
This was just a really nice hunk
of salted butter.

580
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:44,200
It just had so much butteriness
to it and not like the, like,

581
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,100
the texture was buttery and
smooth, but the actual flavor

582
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:51,900
reminded me of salted butter.
And I really, really enjoyed it.

583
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,700
I came down a little bit from
the nose, but this is an eight

584
00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:58,200
and a half on the pallet for me.
I think it stays really spicy.

585
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,300
I think it stays really prickly
on the pallet.

586
00:34:00,500 --> 00:34:03,400
For me.
This is just very, very heavily

587
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,700
charred Oak and it's man.
It's different than I need to

588
00:34:07,708 --> 00:34:11,300
develop some sort of metric for,
like, when I taste burnt things,

589
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,199
and what it means because it
sometimes I talk about Ash,

590
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:18,199
sometimes I talk about like
cigar This reminds me more of

591
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:21,699
like a cigarette.
Ash like it's it tastes like how

592
00:34:21,699 --> 00:34:25,699
an ashtray smells and I don't
necessarily mean that in a bad

593
00:34:25,707 --> 00:34:28,800
way but I'm not getting a lot of
the sweeter notes that you're

594
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,800
getting on this Brad.
I think for me the Char really

595
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,000
takes over and dominates on the
palette, I don't mind it but it

596
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,400
also doesn't have as much
complexity to me as the nose

597
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,300
did.
And it's definitely not coming

598
00:34:41,300 --> 00:34:44,699
in waves or layers or building
upon anything.

599
00:34:44,699 --> 00:34:46,600
So I'm just going to give it a 7
out of 10.

600
00:34:46,699 --> 00:34:51,800
And on the pallet for me that
I'm kind of with you on this

601
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,900
this whiskey disappearing but it
does it for me on the finish.

602
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,400
It really like literally the
words I wrote were disappears

603
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,600
into Oak bits of vanilla and
Cherry remain like that.

604
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,400
There's just not enough going on
on the finish for me to go man,

605
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,800
this has been a great experience
throughout.

606
00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:12,200
I give it a 7 out of 10 on the
finish.

607
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,000
I think if I can like
approximate The Sensation that

608
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,900
I'm getting on the Finish.
It's almost like if you could

609
00:35:20,100 --> 00:35:24,500
make the Americanized version of
like a really heavily peated

610
00:35:24,500 --> 00:35:28,500
scotch and it's like the most PD
version.

611
00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:30,900
Yeah.
And then like this is just so

612
00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:36,900
strongly Char and Ash forward
that it's like man, I don't

613
00:35:36,900 --> 00:35:38,400
know.
It's like a campfire that got

614
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:43,100
rained on, it's like old timing
1980s.

615
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:46,500
You're in a wood-paneled house
and someone is smoking like

616
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,500
Really bad Pall Malls or
something, like it's just

617
00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:52,800
cigarettes, dude.
I don't know how else to explain

618
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,800
this.
I don't like me.

619
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,100
That's not my cup of tea.
I don't think this is a poorly

620
00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:00,700
made whiskey but not like,
you're not a chain smoker but

621
00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:03,300
I'm not a big fan of ashtray
licking.

622
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:06,600
Yeah man.
Damn.

623
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,800
I want this to be sweeter and I
want it to be more complex than

624
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,700
it is.
Especially at 13 years.

625
00:36:11,700 --> 00:36:14,300
I thought this was going to have
some like some real richness to

626
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:16,500
it.
I'm not a huge fan of this.

627
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,900
I'm gonna give it a six and a
half on the Finish.

628
00:36:19,900 --> 00:36:22,800
Bob, I don't often do this with
whiskey.

629
00:36:23,300 --> 00:36:26,300
I'm more than willing to call
you out where you're wrong and

630
00:36:26,300 --> 00:36:28,600
other places in life but you
know was he's a subjective

631
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,300
experience sir.
I think you're crazy.

632
00:36:31,300 --> 00:36:33,700
Hmm.
Like I don't know what you're

633
00:36:33,700 --> 00:36:38,100
talking about here with Ash and
cigarettes at like like I get

634
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:39,600
it.
There's a lot of oakiness and a

635
00:36:39,607 --> 00:36:42,500
little bit of spiciness that
comes off of that but I don't

636
00:36:42,500 --> 00:36:46,300
know every other time you've
talked about like Char and Ash

637
00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:48,500
and And I'm like oh yeah I can
get that.

638
00:36:48,500 --> 00:36:53,000
I can see that the I'm not
getting it on this one man the

639
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,600
this one it like it definitely
disappoints a little bit at the

640
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,800
end but not because it tastes
like an ashtray.

641
00:36:58,100 --> 00:37:00,600
Yeah you know what like I'm on
my fourth sip of it now and I'm

642
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,800
trying to distinguish it because
it it's a combination of like

643
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,400
Char but then it also gets
really bitter for me towards the

644
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,400
end and I think that bitterness
is presenting as like what I

645
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,700
remember cigarette, Ash being
but I think it might be two

646
00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:16,400
different things happening at
the same time.

647
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,600
I'm and that bitterness is like
I don't know like really really

648
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,400
bitter grapefruit peel like a
grapefruit rind.

649
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,500
It's really strongly better for
me.

650
00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:31,300
Almost a vegetal kind of a thing
and yeah so like I said I don't

651
00:37:31,300 --> 00:37:32,700
think that this is a bad
whiskey.

652
00:37:32,700 --> 00:37:38,000
It's just like very far outside
of my preferred wheelhouse and

653
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,800
so when it comes to the balance
on this, I think I'm actually

654
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,500
going to give it a pretty decent
balance score because I think

655
00:37:44,500 --> 00:37:47,600
there is someone out there that
this Whiskey is for.

656
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,900
It is just not Bob book and so
I'm going to give it a actually,

657
00:37:52,900 --> 00:37:57,000
I'm given the 8 out of 10 on
balance that's higher than I

658
00:37:57,008 --> 00:37:58,500
gave it.
I give it a 7 and a half out of

659
00:37:58,508 --> 00:38:01,500
ten on balance.
It has like a really great

660
00:38:01,500 --> 00:38:05,500
opening knows it, blossoms
beautifully and then it just

661
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:10,400
kind of slowly finishes at an
average place and yet, there's

662
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,500
enough complexity to keep this
balance score up there, you

663
00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:16,400
know, I give it a 7 and a half
out of ten when we get.

664
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,700
Into value Bobby.
This is a tough one because it's

665
00:38:20,700 --> 00:38:23,400
not available anymore.
You can't go down to the Baton

666
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:28,400
society and get this anymore.
However, this from what I have

667
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:33,300
looked up, these bottles usually
are around $100 for a Widow,

668
00:38:33,300 --> 00:38:35,400
Jane Barrel pick.
It is listed at those state of

669
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,000
Ohio on the OHL Cube website as
9999.

670
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,300
So there you go.
That's the that's the MSRP.

671
00:38:41,300 --> 00:38:44,500
We're going to be working with
Again, Brad, you know, we talked

672
00:38:44,500 --> 00:38:47,400
about this last week, you know,
sometimes when you drink of

673
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,400
whiskey, you say, like that's a
thirty dollar whiskey and you

674
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,900
don't actually mean, I think
this whiskey should cost $30,

675
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:56,600
you know, when taking the
production into consideration,

676
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,100
we're just saying, like, hey, if
you gave this to me blind, this

677
00:39:01,100 --> 00:39:03,000
is how much I would say I would
pay for this.

678
00:39:03,700 --> 00:39:09,500
Yep, I think $99 seems like a
lot of money but a 13-year

679
00:39:09,500 --> 00:39:11,600
bourbon from a, you know, it's
sourced.

680
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,700
But it's from a small Our, I
understand why.

681
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:18,200
The price point on this is $99
now taking that into

682
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,100
consideration.
Is this worth paying $99 for?

683
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,400
No, I don't think it is.
So like, I don't think it's

684
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,200
necessarily overpriced.
I just don't like the whiskey in

685
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,800
the bottle.
So at this price point, I will

686
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,900
give it a six point five out of
ten on value because I think I'm

687
00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:38,200
trying to split the difference
between, yes, it's a reasonable

688
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,900
price but also know, I don't
like it that much.

689
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,700
Yeah, you think too much Bob's
it will score?

690
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,800
I do I give it a six out of ten
on value.

691
00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:52,900
Hmm I think it's an okay value
in the world of single barrels.

692
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:57,500
I think that if they just worked
on the finish a little bit that

693
00:39:57,500 --> 00:40:00,000
if there's a little more
complexity on the finish, this

694
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,000
would be like a eight out of ten
value.

695
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,000
It's it's a really interesting
whiskey that I will recommend.

696
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,300
I'm coming to a 38 out of 50
Bob, wow.

697
00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:11,400
Yeah, I think we're both a
little bit higher than I

698
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:12,600
thought.
I thought that we would be like

699
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,500
just taking our words into
consideration.

700
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,700
I'm at a 36 and a half out of 50
so we're coming to a seventy

701
00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:22,800
four point five out of 100 or
thirty-seven point.

702
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:28,400
Two five out of 50 on average.
I will very cautiously recommend

703
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,500
this as a try.
It not so much as a by it.

704
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,500
Like you know you want to try
something new at the bar.

705
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,400
I imagine that a poor.
This is going to run you

706
00:40:37,408 --> 00:40:40,100
somewhere between ten and
fifteen dollars like I don't

707
00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:43,400
think that's an astronomical.
Think to ask for a poor of this

708
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,700
it's it's Unique for sure and I
think that if you like your

709
00:40:47,700 --> 00:40:51,400
whiskies Less on the sweet side
and more on the sort of like

710
00:40:51,900 --> 00:40:56,100
spice Char side of things, this
might be right up your alley.

711
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,100
Yeah.
I mean this is not a helpful

712
00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:02,800
review Bob because I'm gonna say
that I thought this was a lot

713
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,700
sweeter than that.
It had some Savory notes but it

714
00:41:05,700 --> 00:41:09,200
was in the realm of like a
peanut butter that is kind of

715
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,400
sweet in its own right as well.
So I think that this was a

716
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,600
really, really great whiskey
that had a few things hampering

717
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,500
it.
But yeah, I would recommend

718
00:41:17,500 --> 00:41:20,900
trying or buying like if you've
had Widow Jane before and you're

719
00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:23,900
thinking about getting a single
barrel like go for it.

720
00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:26,100
I think that they have some
really interesting stuff coming

721
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:28,100
out there.
All right man what do you say?

722
00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:32,200
We get back into talking about
modern times, let's get to it.

723
00:41:36,900 --> 00:41:41,100
All right, everybody that was
widowed Jane. 13-year Barrel.

724
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:45,600
Pick a whiskey that we liked
this, fine?

725
00:41:46,300 --> 00:41:49,100
Yeah, yeah, we liked it.
Yeah.

726
00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:54,200
You know what I like Bob is it
Canada's favorite segments?

727
00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:58,000
It, sure is.
We're talking two facts and a

728
00:41:58,008 --> 00:42:01,800
falsehood is gonna try to stop
you.

729
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:08,700
Bob All right.
And what is wrong to fax in a

730
00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:11,600
faucet?
To fact, in a falsehood is the

731
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,000
part of the podcast where Brad
presents three items to me, as

732
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,400
fact about the making of this
movie, one of which is a

733
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:23,300
complete fabrication and it is
my job to suss out belie Brad.

734
00:42:23,300 --> 00:42:25,400
I don't remember how I'm doing
on the season right now.

735
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:31,700
I think I was at 500 after
Mariah, five and seven Robert

736
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:33,700
also, I lost two in a row after
Marie.

737
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,500
Maya, help me out.
Dang dude, I got to make up some

738
00:42:36,500 --> 00:42:39,100
ground here.
Did you go easy on me?

739
00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:42,700
This week is the question.
I think I did.

740
00:42:42,700 --> 00:42:46,900
I really this was a tough week.
I will challenge any of you

741
00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:51,300
trying to come up with lies
about a movie that are like,

742
00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:56,400
convincing is really hard and
I'm quite proud of my 7 and 5

743
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,300
record.
I was gonna say, especially when

744
00:42:58,300 --> 00:43:00,200
the movie is almost 90 years
old.

745
00:43:00,900 --> 00:43:03,700
Yeah, it's not easy.
All right.

746
00:43:03,900 --> 00:43:06,600
Hit me with your two facts and a
falsehood fact.

747
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,900
Number one, the machine that Sir
Charles Chaplin goes through

748
00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:13,500
like a film projector was made
of rubber and would rather than

749
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:16,100
steel but was still quite
uncomfortable enough.

750
00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:19,400
So that chaplain only wanted to
do it once to show him going

751
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,300
backward.
Again chaplain simply played the

752
00:43:21,300 --> 00:43:25,000
film backward.
Fax number two chaplain

753
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,800
considered this one of the
finest films that he ever made

754
00:43:29,100 --> 00:43:32,700
saying that it was the quote
cleverest and most brilliant

755
00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:36,600
film I've ever met.
Made fact, number three, several

756
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,800
sequences were cut before the
release on the recommendation of

757
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,200
the Hays office.
According to a January, 6, 1936,

758
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,800
Memo from Joseph Greene.
The eliminations needed because

759
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,800
of vulgarity were the first part
of the pansy gag.

760
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,400
No doubt referring to the jail
cell mate.

761
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,300
Who's knitting disconcerts?
Charlie number two.

762
00:43:55,300 --> 00:43:57,300
The word dope in a printed
title.

763
00:43:57,300 --> 00:44:00,500
And number three, most of the
business of the stomach rumbling

764
00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:04,700
on the part of The Minister's
Wife and Charles But the cocaine

765
00:44:04,700 --> 00:44:06,300
was good.
We were fine with that.

766
00:44:06,300 --> 00:44:08,300
Right.
Totally fine with the cocaine

767
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:15,100
chaplain when talking about mr.
Hayes, who was I think a

768
00:44:15,107 --> 00:44:18,300
minister of some sort.
Before he took on this role, he

769
00:44:18,300 --> 00:44:21,900
was quoted as saying I don't
like censorship of any kind, but

770
00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:24,600
I especially don't like
Presbyterian censorship.

771
00:44:24,700 --> 00:44:27,700
And so I just, I really like
such a good quote.

772
00:44:29,700 --> 00:44:31,200
Yeah, man.
There's some really there's some

773
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,700
really fun little tidbits about
the Hays code.

774
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,300
Code.
And the making of this movie,

775
00:44:35,500 --> 00:44:38,100
apparently, you know, the
beginning of the movie, where

776
00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:40,900
the Tramp goes into the bathroom
to smoke a cigarette, just to

777
00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:42,800
get away from the grind of
everything.

778
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,700
Chaplin had a sign hung outside
of the men's stalls.

779
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:50,800
That said welcome, mr.
Hayes like into into the the

780
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,100
toilet.
I really liked that a lot.

781
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,000
I think three is true.
I think one is true.

782
00:44:56,300 --> 00:44:58,800
I'm going to say to is the
falsehood and I'm really did not

783
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,800
basing that on anything except
it just sounded the most like

784
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,000
something you might have made
up.

785
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,700
So Number two is the falsehood
fact.

786
00:45:05,700 --> 00:45:10,800
Number two, the quotes, the
cleverest and most brilliant

787
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,200
film I've ever made is a quote
that Charles Chaplin said.

788
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:19,900
However, he said it about his
1947 film, I don't remember the

789
00:45:19,900 --> 00:45:22,100
name of it, I think that would
be miss your will do.

790
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:24,200
Yeah.
That was one server.

791
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,500
Do I say it was a French title.
There it is.

792
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,100
So I win.
Nailed it.

793
00:45:28,107 --> 00:45:31,900
Bob you won.
Six and seven.

794
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:37,400
I'm sneaking back into it, man.
You are the Cleveland Browns of

795
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,100
the filmin, whiskey world.
I really thought that I would

796
00:45:40,100 --> 00:45:42,900
clean up throughout the four
weeks of chaplain.

797
00:45:42,900 --> 00:45:46,400
And you bested me?
Yeah, that was man.

798
00:45:47,300 --> 00:45:51,300
Well, well played sir.
I'm happy to play you to a draw

799
00:45:51,300 --> 00:45:54,000
on these four weeks.
I appreciate it.

800
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,600
I was worried, man.
I was waiting for a 4 and 0 on

801
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,500
your on your part.
I want to talk a little bit

802
00:45:59,500 --> 00:46:04,000
about this movie as kind of like
a contemporary comment on things

803
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,200
that we're going on at the time.
And part of it is because right

804
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,900
before it like, literally, right
before we press record, I was on

805
00:46:09,900 --> 00:46:12,900
Twitter and I was reading this
quote from the director, Steven

806
00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:18,300
Soderbergh, he was talking about
how he hates using cell phones

807
00:46:18,300 --> 00:46:21,100
in movies.
Like, he thinks that depicting

808
00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:24,800
phones in movies has ruined
movies because it just takes the

809
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,300
drama out of everything.
It is so hard to like,

810
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,500
Cinematically depict.
Someone sending a text message

811
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,800
and I still don't think
Hollywood has figured out like

812
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,100
the best way to do that and he
was commenting on that and the

813
00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:40,100
person who shared this quote was
talking about basically listed

814
00:46:40,100 --> 00:46:43,200
out all of what we would
consider to be the most

815
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,300
important filmmakers and how
many years it's been since

816
00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:51,200
they've made a movie set
contemporaneously.

817
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,200
Hmm.
And it's just really

818
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,000
fascinating, because I feel like
the farther we go into this like

819
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,700
World of cell phones, the less
Lawmakers are actually engaging

820
00:46:59,700 --> 00:47:03,500
with this world and yet that's
because people suck that are on

821
00:47:03,500 --> 00:47:06,700
a cell phone.
Well, I hope people people sucks

822
00:47:06,700 --> 00:47:09,100
during the Great Depression that
was going to be my Segway Brad.

823
00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:13,400
Like and yet here's Chaplin
doing it in 1940 with the Great

824
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,700
Dictator doing it here in 1936
with modern times.

825
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:21,900
I guess I just want to hear your
impressions of like Imagine

826
00:47:21,900 --> 00:47:24,600
you're an audience member in
1936.

827
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,900
Like what, what is your
impression of this movie as it's

828
00:47:27,900 --> 00:47:32,700
speaking to your contemporary
time, man.

829
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:38,200
I mean I think that a vast swath
of America didn't live in the

830
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,700
city still then.
So I feel like a lot of the

831
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,100
elements of like it, you know,
it's very clearly set in like a

832
00:47:46,107 --> 00:47:50,000
New York City Style Place
geography.

833
00:47:50,500 --> 00:47:54,200
And so So I wonder if that would
not relate to everyone's super.

834
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:58,400
Well, I think the elements of it
that relate are the places of

835
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,100
man.
I just feel like I can't keep a

836
00:48:01,100 --> 00:48:03,400
job.
No matter what I do, man.

837
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,200
I like, I just want to get ahead
and care for my the woman that I

838
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,500
love, but it just feels like
such, everything keeps pushing

839
00:48:10,500 --> 00:48:14,600
me down, you know, and I already
reference this movie once but it

840
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,500
reminds me of The Grapes of
Wrath with, you know, the best

841
00:48:17,500 --> 00:48:20,500
part of that film, which is the
speech that is given about,

842
00:48:20,500 --> 00:48:23,400
like, who can I Go shoot and
he's like, wow, this guy does

843
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,600
this and but he's owned by the
Banks.

844
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,800
And the banks are owned by the
stockholders of the stockholders

845
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,800
are owned by these people.
And, and like this felt like a

846
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,900
comedy version of that speech.
And and so, I think that there's

847
00:48:36,900 --> 00:48:42,200
definitely elements of this,
that would work as a, you know,

848
00:48:42,300 --> 00:48:47,400
current reflection current in
1936 of what's going on in the

849
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,000
world around them.
And I would imagine that it

850
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,700
would capture the Rada nation of
people to say yes, like this is

851
00:48:53,700 --> 00:48:56,200
what I'm going through.
Brad.

852
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:57,900
I think that watching this
movie.

853
00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:01,600
Now, you kind of have to step
back a little bit and think

854
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,300
about all the things that
Chaplin was depicting on screen.

855
00:49:04,300 --> 00:49:07,000
As kind of like this fantastic
goal.

856
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,200
Heightened version of reality,
almost science fiction, e at the

857
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,800
beginning of the movie, and I
think Chaplin was really heavily

858
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,900
influenced by a movie that I
think we referenced.

859
00:49:15,900 --> 00:49:20,200
When Mariah was here, Fritz
Lang's movie metropolis and this

860
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:24,700
idea of this giant machine that
we are like feeding people into

861
00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:28,700
like, it's Devouring humans
chaplain goes into the machine

862
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,700
but even this idea of, you know,
the CEO of the company is

863
00:49:33,700 --> 00:49:36,500
sitting up in his office doing
nothing but jigsaw puzzles and

864
00:49:36,500 --> 00:49:41,400
then surveilling everyone but
you know, it's like for us to

865
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,300
watch that we're like, oh yeah,
he's looking at the the CCTV.

866
00:49:44,300 --> 00:49:47,100
He's watching the cameras, they
didn't have surveillance like

867
00:49:47,100 --> 00:49:51,200
that in 1936 know, here's
chalalan, that hit that hit me

868
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,900
man, here's Chaplin depicting.
This big brother kind of thing

869
00:49:55,100 --> 00:49:58,800
and not only He is he like able
to watch each sector of the

870
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,000
factory.
He has like a TV screen and like

871
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,900
commercial television was not a
thing yet.

872
00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:06,000
I think the first I'm looking at
it right now.

873
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,600
Google.
The first successful

874
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,100
demonstration of a television
was 1927 but they were not a

875
00:50:11,107 --> 00:50:14,500
real thing in American Homes
until like the 1940s and even

876
00:50:14,500 --> 00:50:19,400
after that and so here you have
the very first time anyone ever

877
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:24,300
speaks in a Charlie Chaplin
movie, it's mediated through

878
00:50:24,300 --> 00:50:26,100
this gigantic TV.
Green.

879
00:50:26,300 --> 00:50:30,400
It's the CEO talking to a guy
down on the floor, telling him

880
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,000
to like increase the speed on a
conveyor belt and we're just

881
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,200
watching it like, oh yeah, he's
just popping up on the screen.

882
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,200
He's telling this guy what to
do.

883
00:50:37,500 --> 00:50:40,000
That's not a thing that existed.
It's just this thing that

884
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,300
chaplain inserted and it's a
really brilliant little comedic

885
00:50:43,300 --> 00:50:47,400
and cinematic touch, but it's
also so clever that.

886
00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:50,800
Yes, he's going to use some
sound in his movie now, but even

887
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,800
in using the sound, it's kind of
a commentary on the whole thing,

888
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,700
like he's only Using sound when
it's mediated through a machine.

889
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,900
And then like the real people,
the real world of this movie is

890
00:51:01,900 --> 00:51:04,200
still silent.
I just, I really love everything

891
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,500
about that opening sequence in
the factory.

892
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,600
I think it's the strongest part
of the movie, honestly?

893
00:51:09,500 --> 00:51:14,400
Yeah, I mean, the the places
that he uses sound are from the

894
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,900
voices that he hates the most,
as a filmmaker, right?

895
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,600
And in that place you start to
realize like this is a meta

896
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:28,300
commentary on the Movement of
Motion Pictures towards sound,

897
00:51:28,300 --> 00:51:31,500
like he's not pumped about it.
And so the only place is he's

898
00:51:31,500 --> 00:51:34,800
going to put sound in our, in
the, the stuff that the audience

899
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,500
is is told to dislike, you know,
as you're watching this film.

900
00:51:38,900 --> 00:51:42,300
So yeah, I think it's
interesting and I think that he,

901
00:51:42,900 --> 00:51:47,700
you definitely understand how
water Theory would come about

902
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,700
with directors.
Like, you know, Charles Chaplin

903
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,400
in the rearview mirror of like,
yeah, this is how it's been from

904
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,900
the very start.
You have guys like Chaplin who

905
00:51:55,900 --> 00:51:59,400
are, you know, famously
fastidious and meticulous about

906
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,400
the way his movies are made all
the way through people, you

907
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,800
know, like Kubrick and and
Beyond Yeah I totally agree but

908
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,000
I also think that you know it's
not just like the voices that he

909
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,300
hates that he puts sound in the
mouth of like he kind of also

910
00:52:13,300 --> 00:52:16,100
has some fun with the idea of
letting the Tramp speak because

911
00:52:16,100 --> 00:52:17,300
that's what people really wanted
to hear.

912
00:52:17,300 --> 00:52:21,500
They wanted to see the Tramp
become a sound figure and so at

913
00:52:21,500 --> 00:52:25,500
the end of this movie after you
know 20 years plus of playing

914
00:52:25,500 --> 00:52:29,400
this character chaplains like
I'm gonna have the Tramp sing a

915
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,500
song.
The first thing that you hear

916
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,200
come out of the tramps mouth in
beautiful.

917
00:52:35,300 --> 00:52:40,100
That sound is a song that he is
singing in a nonsense made-up

918
00:52:40,100 --> 00:52:43,900
language because he forgets the
lyrics in English and it's just

919
00:52:43,900 --> 00:52:46,700
it's a really funny little like
yep.

920
00:52:46,700 --> 00:52:50,200
The Tramp sings also he doesn't
speak English and he doesn't

921
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,300
speak any discernible language
that humans would recognize.

922
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,100
And I just I kind of like, you
know, to your point he's not

923
00:52:57,100 --> 00:52:59,700
super pumped about the prospect
of sound and so he's like, yeah,

924
00:52:59,700 --> 00:53:01,700
I'll do it.
But he's not going to speak a

925
00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:04,100
real language.
Yeah, I mean honestly it felt

926
00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:08,000
like almost like a In Williams
type of gag right?

927
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,900
Where he's just speaking
complete gibberish and because

928
00:53:11,900 --> 00:53:15,600
of his physicality and what he's
bringing to the screen, it comes

929
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,700
to life and that.
And that's that's the charm of

930
00:53:19,700 --> 00:53:21,800
Chaplin, right?
It's his physicality.

931
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:26,800
It's the way he draws you into
his characters through his body

932
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,900
language.
And I think that you get a final

933
00:53:29,900 --> 00:53:32,600
send off to the Tramp in a
really beautiful reminder that

934
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,200
it's not his voice in the words
that he is.

935
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,900
Saying that matters, it's who he
is as a person and you don't

936
00:53:38,900 --> 00:53:43,100
need words to express that.
And I think, you know, in the

937
00:53:43,100 --> 00:53:48,300
modern times, you know, from
from 1930 on once we've had had

938
00:53:48,300 --> 00:53:51,200
sound.
I think that the best actors in

939
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,600
the world, consistently,
remember the message of chaplain

940
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,200
that you don't have to use
complicated dialogue to bring a

941
00:53:58,207 --> 00:54:02,100
character to life for a before
we get into, you know, our last

942
00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:04,500
couple segments of the day here,
I want to talk about the ending

943
00:54:04,500 --> 00:54:06,700
of this movie and just Pick your
brain a little bit about it

944
00:54:06,700 --> 00:54:11,700
because basically our two main
characters cannot get ahead in

945
00:54:11,700 --> 00:54:15,500
life and when things are really,
really looking up for them,

946
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,800
their past comes back to find
them and they are back to square

947
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,000
one at the end of this movie.
And not only are they at square

948
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:25,400
one, like it fades in and says
it's Dawn and you see them

949
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,400
sleeping on the side of the road
in just a complete like

950
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,200
desolate.
Like, they're not even near the

951
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,800
city anymore, they've had to
completely leave the city

952
00:54:33,100 --> 00:54:35,200
because there's so little
opportunity for them there.

953
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,800
And the girl is saying like,
what is the point of even trying

954
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,200
anymore?
And the background music is the,

955
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,900
the melody, to the song smile,
which became a standard and a

956
00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:48,100
very famous song that chaplain
wrote.

957
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,100
And the send-off that they get
is he says like hey we gotta

958
00:54:52,100 --> 00:54:55,400
keep trying, I know it sucks.
Let's just try it again.

959
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,600
And they start walking off into
the distance and then they pause

960
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,100
for a second and compose
themselves.

961
00:55:00,100 --> 00:55:02,600
And he tells her to smile and
they walk off smiling.

962
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,600
And yet it's like the most
ambiguous.

963
00:55:05,700 --> 00:55:09,700
Louis kind of sad ending.
And I think it really says a lot

964
00:55:09,700 --> 00:55:12,300
about the fact that this movie
was made in the middle of the

965
00:55:12,300 --> 00:55:14,800
Great Depression.
Like there is no end in sight to

966
00:55:14,808 --> 00:55:17,700
this, there is no light.
At the end of the tunnel Chaplin

967
00:55:17,700 --> 00:55:19,500
himself doesn't know how this is
gonna go.

968
00:55:19,900 --> 00:55:23,000
And he has kind of the balls to
end his movie.

969
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:28,200
And basically say goodbye to the
Tramp in such an ambiguous way.

970
00:55:28,900 --> 00:55:31,800
You know, Brad you've now seen
the three most famous examples

971
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,500
of the Tramp on screen.
What do you think of the way

972
00:55:34,500 --> 00:55:36,400
that he sends this?
Dr. Off.

973
00:55:37,300 --> 00:55:40,500
I think it totally makes sense
for the character.

974
00:55:40,900 --> 00:55:46,400
Like if you consider the Tramp
as a long form, study of, you

975
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,600
know, a character, he continues
off into the sunset the way he

976
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,000
starts with uncertainty and
positivity.

977
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:55,900
He doesn't know where he's
going.

978
00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:58,100
He doesn't know where his next
meal is coming from.

979
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,500
The only thing he knows is that
he loves this girl and he'll do

980
00:56:02,500 --> 00:56:05,600
whatever it takes to make the
future better.

981
00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:10,200
Them and that feels like the
American story in a lot of ways.

982
00:56:10,500 --> 00:56:13,100
And so I love the way he sends
off the Tramp.

983
00:56:13,900 --> 00:56:16,700
All right, man with that, it is
time for our last segment of the

984
00:56:16,700 --> 00:56:19,600
day which we call.
Let's make it a double we near

985
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,700
the end of the episode.
So thanks for listening to the

986
00:56:22,700 --> 00:56:25,400
film and whiskey show.
Let's pair another film with

987
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,000
this one.
Even if it's struggle, it's a

988
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,000
final segment of the day.
Now let's make it a double.

989
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,600
Let's make it.
A double is the part of the

990
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,900
show, where we pick a movie to
pair up with this one to make

991
00:56:34,900 --> 00:56:37,600
the perfect.
Feature Braddock kind of sounds

992
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,400
like you already have maybe the
best possible choice for this.

993
00:56:41,700 --> 00:56:44,100
I do Bob, what movie are you
referring to?

994
00:56:44,900 --> 00:56:46,900
I mean, you've talked about The
Grapes of Wrath like three times

995
00:56:46,900 --> 00:56:49,300
already, so I just kind of
figured we're going here.

996
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,100
No.
No, I'm course not any.

997
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:52,800
No, no, that would be way too
much sense.

998
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,200
Yeah, come on, come on, come on.
I'm going to recommend a movie

999
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,700
that is about one man fighting
against the system.

1000
00:57:00,700 --> 00:57:04,700
And questioning everything that
has you know, made him who he

1001
00:57:04,700 --> 00:57:06,700
is.
And Questioning, the world

1002
00:57:06,700 --> 00:57:10,200
that's been built up around him.
I'm going to recommend that you

1003
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:15,000
watch 1982's Blade.
Runner Blade Runner.

1004
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,900
I thought you're gonna say ET.
Damn it.

1005
00:57:17,500 --> 00:57:19,800
Yep, that's definitely the
movie.

1006
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,200
I'm going to recommend but
listen, I would Perry T up with

1007
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:23,500
anything.
I don't care what you say.

1008
00:57:23,700 --> 00:57:24,600
Yeah.
All right.

1009
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,000
Well, lead role where Man versus
machine, I like it.

1010
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:29,700
Brad.
I think that you could go a lot

1011
00:57:29,700 --> 00:57:30,800
of different directions with
this.

1012
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,300
I think you could pair this up
with a movie like Metropolis to

1013
00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:35,600
kind of go with the man versus
machine.

1014
00:57:35,700 --> 00:57:37,200
Eames.
I think you could pair It Up

1015
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,700
With The Grapes of Wrath as
you've been talking about, I'm

1016
00:57:39,700 --> 00:57:42,100
actually going to go ahead and
pair it up with another Charlie

1017
00:57:42,100 --> 00:57:45,600
Chaplin movie and it's probably
his next most famous one that we

1018
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,800
didn't get to its movie called
The Circus.

1019
00:57:48,100 --> 00:57:50,000
And it was the reason that I
started talking about all the

1020
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,300
Beatles stuff earlier, because
if I could recommend to you

1021
00:57:53,300 --> 00:57:56,000
Brad, one more movie that I
think you would actually like a,

1022
00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:59,400
a lot more than these last few
that we've watched.

1023
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:00,700
I think you should watch the
circus.

1024
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:05,800
It's the closest in tone to the
Gold Rush, which you really Seem

1025
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,800
to like a lot more but I think
it also has that the kind of

1026
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,000
ambiguous ending that you get
here with the Tramp which is

1027
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,000
like I've talked about it a
couple times.

1028
00:58:15,300 --> 00:58:18,700
He's not dumb, he's maybe a
little bit too trusting and at

1029
00:58:18,700 --> 00:58:21,800
the end of the movie, he walks
off into the sunset and he

1030
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,400
breathes a heavy sigh.
And he's learned A Life Lesson,

1031
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,400
and it's not necessarily him in
a happier place, but it's him,

1032
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,700
learning and moving on to the
next thing.

1033
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,200
And I think the endings of both
of these movies are so

1034
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,600
reminiscent of each other.
That I'm going to go.

1035
00:58:35,700 --> 00:58:37,300
Ahead and pair it up with the
circus.

1036
00:58:37,300 --> 00:58:41,700
So, Brad picks, Blade Runner.
I pick the circus and that means

1037
00:58:41,700 --> 00:58:43,400
that it's time for final scores,
man.

1038
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,100
Brad, I'm a little bit nervous.
I don't know where you're going

1039
00:58:46,100 --> 00:58:48,800
to go with this, but the floor
is yours, sir.

1040
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,300
Well, I mean, I assume that I
know what you're going to give

1041
00:58:52,300 --> 00:58:56,900
this Bob.
I am going to give modern times

1042
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:07,200
A seven and a half out of 10.
Damn dude.

1043
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:14,200
I like at the end of the day, I
don't think I'll ever like, sit

1044
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:19,500
down and watch this movie again.
And like for me that has become

1045
00:59:19,500 --> 00:59:23,900
a differentiation between eight
and under, like, if I'm gonna

1046
00:59:23,900 --> 00:59:26,200
give a movie an 8 out of 10,
it's got to be a movie that I'm

1047
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,500
like, oh I really want to
revisit this at some point.

1048
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,100
And this movie just there were
moments that were quirky and

1049
00:59:33,100 --> 00:59:37,200
funny and worked for me.
But overall it just didn't do

1050
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,200
enough to move me into that
realm of An eight or higher.

1051
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,200
So so seven and a half out of
ten.

1052
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,200
Yeah.
This is a ten out of ten.

1053
00:59:44,500 --> 00:59:48,200
Like, I think this time through
having watched it like 30 times

1054
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,500
before I was like, all right,
this is kind of dragging and

1055
00:59:50,500 --> 00:59:52,200
parts for me.
Maybe I'll give it a nine and a

1056
00:59:52,207 --> 00:59:55,800
half this time and then I'm like
oh Brad gave it a 7 and a half

1057
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,900
out of ten.
No, I'm giving us a 10, it's

1058
00:59:58,900 --> 01:00:03,100
you're not basing the score on
on your watch of the movie, your

1059
01:00:03,100 --> 01:00:07,300
solely basing it to spite me, I
mean, okay, if it's a difference

1060
01:00:07,300 --> 01:00:10,200
between a nine and a half and a
10, If you want me to give it a

1061
01:00:10,207 --> 01:00:11,900
9 and a half I will.
How about that?

1062
01:00:11,900 --> 01:00:14,200
I'll give it a nine point five
out of ten.

1063
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:19,100
Bob, this is your moral movie
conscience that we're talking

1064
01:00:19,100 --> 01:00:21,400
about here.
I I'm off the, I'm off the

1065
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:22,300
bench, man.
I'm ready.

1066
01:00:22,300 --> 01:00:24,800
Are you to lecture me on morals,
Brad?

1067
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:29,500
Gee, I'm just saying, man, this
is like you have to deal with

1068
01:00:29,500 --> 01:00:33,700
your own soul in saying that I
gave this movie A 10/10 even

1069
01:00:33,700 --> 01:00:36,300
though I don't think it's the
time to know I had saying that's

1070
01:00:36,300 --> 01:00:39,600
I'm saying that I've seen it 30
times now and that Yesterday

1071
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,200
when I was sick in bed, like it
wasn't hitting the way it hit

1072
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,000
the first 30 times, but it was
still a nine and a half.

1073
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,800
So I think in the grand scheme
of things, it washes out to a

1074
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,100
10, it's a 10 out of 10 and that
means that we're coming out to

1075
01:00:53,100 --> 01:00:56,500
an average of an eight point
seven five out of ten, which is

1076
01:00:56,500 --> 01:00:58,500
fairly well aligned with its
score.

1077
01:00:58,500 --> 01:01:01,100
On IMDb where it has an 8.5 out
of 10.

1078
01:01:01,100 --> 01:01:05,500
It is one of I believe the top
50 maybe 60 movies in the IMDb

1079
01:01:05,500 --> 01:01:09,900
top 250 really well Beloved
movie except by Brad and I

1080
01:01:09,908 --> 01:01:12,100
shouldn't be surprised anymore,
but I still am.

1081
01:01:12,100 --> 01:01:17,000
So that's it for Chad like that.
This has been a rough season for

1082
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,800
us.
I feel like for us.

1083
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,000
Yeah.
Like you and me are our bond,

1084
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,400
our friendship.
You know what?

1085
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,100
Yeah.
Like, I think the highest rated

1086
01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:27,200
movies we've had so far.
We've had three movies.

1087
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:31,500
Hit a nine point two five.
We haven't had any tents.

1088
01:01:31,500 --> 01:01:33,700
We haven't had any
nine-and-a-half saint average

1089
01:01:33,700 --> 01:01:36,800
Brad, I think it's time that we
turn the page here.

1090
01:01:36,900 --> 01:01:41,600
We're done with chaplain, we're
moving into the fan boyish of

1091
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:45,400
all Fanboy directors in
anticipation of his upcoming

1092
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,200
movie.
Oppenheimer, we're going to be

1093
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:51,200
watching a couple movies from
our boy Christopher Nolan in the

1094
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:55,000
coming weeks and that means that
we're going to kick things off

1095
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,100
with his movie.
Memento a movie that I have not

1096
01:01:58,100 --> 01:01:59,900
washed in probably 15 years.
Here's Brad.

1097
01:01:59,900 --> 01:02:04,300
If you ever seen Memento, I have
not one of my best friend's.

1098
01:02:04,300 --> 01:02:08,100
Steven has been like begging me
to watch that with him for a

1099
01:02:08,100 --> 01:02:11,400
very long time now.
And I kept telling my was like,

1100
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,900
well, we'll probably get to it
on the podcast and I don't

1101
01:02:13,900 --> 01:02:17,100
really watch more than one movie
a week, so when I get to it on

1102
01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:18,500
the podcast we'll watch it
together.

1103
01:02:18,500 --> 01:02:20,900
So Stephen and I are going to
sit down sometime soon.

1104
01:02:21,100 --> 01:02:24,200
We're going to watch Memento.
I am very, very excited for it.

1105
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I have a more important question
for you, Bob.

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Oh yeah!
What's that?

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If you were to have Hans As
Zimmer compose a score for a

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Charlie Chaplin film?
Which film would you want him to

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do it for And we're not talking
about like Hans trying to

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imitate the old style.
We're getting modern tile on

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Hans probably modern times,
although it'd be kind of cool to

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see him composing for like the
frozen tundra of the gold rush

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to.
That's that's what I was

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thinking, man.
Every time like that, I am the

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door of the cabin.
Blows open.

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You just hear want comes in.
Yes.

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That I for me, I think that's,
that's the clear winner.

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All right, everybody.
You can let us know what you

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think of Charlie Chaplin and And
or Christopher Nolan by finding

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us on our social medias
Facebook.

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Twitter Instagram Tick-Tock at
film whiskey or jump onto our

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Discord.
We have been talking all the

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things silent film.
All the things, the, the fun of

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Summer that we are having.
And if we're being honest, we

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talk about whiskey a lot.
So, jump onto the Discord, you

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can find a link to it at the end
of every single one of our show

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notes.
All right, we will see you a

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week from now for Memento Brad.
I'm very excited for that, but

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until then, I am Bob book.
Look, I'm Reggie and we'll see

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you next time.