Inglourious Basterds (2009) / Basil Hayden Kentucky Straight Bourbon

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In 2009, director Quentin
Tarantino and * Melanie Laurent

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gave the world an explosive
reimagining of the world's

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deadliest war.
In 2023, we revisit perhaps our

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most infamous whiskey.
The film is inglorious.

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The whiskey is Boo.
Yeah, we don't want to talk

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about.
It the whiskey is Basil Hayden.

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And we'll review them both.
This is.

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The Film and Whiskey podcast.
Welcome to the Film in Whiskey

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podcast, where each week we
review a classic movie and a

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glass of whiskey.
I'm Bob Book.

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I'm Brad Gee.
And this week we are revisiting

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one of the spiciest Season 1
episodes, Brad, by looking at

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Quentin Tarantino's 2009 film
Inglourious Basterds.

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Yeah, that it was a heck of an
episode.

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If I remember correctly, I think
a friend of the show Jordan was

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on.
I think he was like the mediator

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between us.
Yeah, it was episode 3 or 4.

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It was in that first set of
episodes we recorded.

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I remember this, Brad.
We met up and we did like 4

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episodes at a time back then.
And so this was.

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Wild.
This was most of the way through

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the recording day.
I feel like our takes were even

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more unfiltered back then and
and less polished.

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And so I listened back to some
of those episodes and I'm like,

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wow, we gave really harsh
reviews on, especially on the

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whiskeys back then.
Yeah, 100%.

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We, I think because we didn't
know what we were doing, we

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didn't want to come across to
like positive because it feels

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like it'd be too easy to be
positive about it.

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And it like, I don't know,
critics are harsh on things.

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So, so like we like leaned into
that pretty hard.

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Also, I will say it turns out we
weren't drinking as good of

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whiskey back then as we are now.
So I, you know, I, I think that

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some of it might have been a
little bit.

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Fair.
You got a great a very little

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bit, right.
Yeah, yeah, 100%.

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At the very least I will say
Basil Hayden sucks.

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Well, I have not gotten back
into trying it yet.

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I'm going to drink it live on
air today.

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But I have gotten back into
watching Inglourious Basterds, a

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movie that I pretty famously
Brad, you know, as famous as we

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are, disagreed with on a an
ethical moral level for a long,

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long time.
And I had very few, like

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actually famous critics in my
corner.

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And there was one guy that I
latched onto a long time ago,

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and he's really become one of my
favorite critics.

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His name is Ty Burr.
He used to write for the Boston

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Globe.
He's since moved on and he's

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doing his own thing now.
But he was one of the few that

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I.
Think all like all film critics.

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Yeah, right.
He's one of the few that he gave

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the movie like I think 2 1/2
stars and really liked a lot of

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what was in it, but ultimately
felt like not only was it

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irresponsible, but that it just,
it got kind of messy towards the

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end and I really agreed with him
on that.

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Watching it through this time,
Brad, I am much more positive on

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this movie than I was back then.
I still think it's a little bit

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overestimated in Tarantino's
like catalog.

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It's a really good movie and
it's got some of the highest

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highs in Tarantino, but I don't
know that I would call it like

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one of my top three Tarantino's.
What are What are your top three

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Tarantino's?
I still think Pulp Fiction is

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probably his best.
I think Django is really close

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to Pulp Fiction and is by far my
favorite Tarantino movie.

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And then you know #3 could be
whatever the hell else you want.

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I'd like probably Jackie Brown,
maybe Kill Bill 2.

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I don't know.
How about you?

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I think I would probably go with
the two you mentioned and this

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one.
OK, I I think I would put Pulp

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Fiction at top and then I'd
probably put Django in

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Inglorious in a tie.
I don't know which one I would

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like more.
It is worth saying that I think

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you've only seen four Tarantino
movies, so like.

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Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I've seen Reservoir Dogs, Pulp

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Fiction, Inglourious Basterds,
Pulp Fiction, and Django and

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Django and what else he's done.
Jackie, he's Jackie Brown killed

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the.
Kill bells he did Once Upon a

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Time in Hollywood.
Hateful 8 Yeah.

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And death proof I have I have
seen 4 Quentin Tarantino,

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Phillips.
And this is undoubtedly one of

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them.
So.

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It's in the top three.
Thank you very much.

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Let's.
Dive into talking about the

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movie Brad.
I think we should just go ahead

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and and launch right into
America's favorite segment,

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which we call, Brad explains.
Brad's going to give us the

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movie plots with only 60 seconds
taken on the clock, so let's go

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ahead and do your take with this
little segment that we call,

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Brad explains.
Brad Explains is the part of the

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podcast where Brad breaks down
the plot of the movie that he

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has just seen, often for the
first time.

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Brad, I don't even remember if
we were doing Brad Explains when

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we first started this podcast.
I think it just kind of

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organically developed over time.
So this might be your first time

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doing a Brad Explains on this
movie.

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And to be quite frank, I don't
know that I envy you because

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this movie has a lot of
different storylines kind of

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woven together in this very
bloody tapestry.

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You have 60 seconds to try to
break it all down.

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We are going to dive into
spoiler territory.

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I don't think you can talk about
this movie without talking about

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the big gigantic spoilery swings
that Tarantino takes.

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So, Brad, feel free to ruin this
movie for anyone that hasn't

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seen it yet.
We would encourage you to watch

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the movie and then come back and
listen to the episode.

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Brad, you have 60 seconds on the
clock and go.

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Bob Inglourious Basterds is
about the assassination of Adolf

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Hitler and his entire high
command at the end of the film

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in a movie theater firebomb.
There are three characters that

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lead up to that place.
There are Hans Landa, an s s

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Colonel in the German army.
There is Shashonna Dreyfus, a

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escaped Jew who is now hiding,
pretending to be French.

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She was French as well.
And there is Aldo Rain, AUS

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soldier who leads a group of
kind of Secret Service guys that

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are fighting the resistance in
France.

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Aldo Rain finds out that there's
going to be this movie premiere

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and so he leads his team in
order to try and assassinate any

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German high command that is
there.

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Shoshanna, having escaped from
Hans Landa in the opening scene

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of the film, now owns the movie
theater that is being chosen

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for.
The.

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Firebombing and Hans Londa is
trying to screw it all up.

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Boom.
Until.

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Until he isn't.
You know what, Brad?

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This sounds so stupid and so
simplistic, but I can't believe

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how you just cracked the code of
how to talk about this movie

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like it.
It blows my mind that I've never

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seen it explained this way
before.

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Yeah, you have to start at the
end, yes, and then unconnect the

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threads.
When you say this movie is about

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X, like I've never seen this
movie described as this movie is

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about the successful
assassination of Hitler and his

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high command.
Yeah.

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But when you think about movies
like, I don't know if you've

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ever seen the Tom Cruise movie
Valkyrie, it's about the real

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life failed attempt to
assassinate Hitler.

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And so when you talk about that
movie, you talk about the

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historical event, and it is this
thing that the movie builds up

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to.
But I've never seen Inglourious

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Basterds describe that way.
It's always like, well, yeah,

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it's an alternative history.
And it's about these different

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groups of people.
And at the end, they kill Hitler

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as if that's like an aside, You
know what I mean?

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Like also, he just tacks on this
thing where Hitler gets machine

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gun in the face.
And yet I think that you

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actually have really helped us
frame this conversation because

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the end of the movie is what
would be the big historical

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event.
And it really helps to

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contextualize all these random
threads that come together at

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the end of the film.
Yeah, for me, it feels like the

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whole film, this movie is almost
like a, a giant ball of yarn

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that has like multiple threads
pulled off of it.

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And you just kind of threw it
across the floor and there's

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threads everywhere.
And if you want to figure it

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out, if you want to gather it
all together, you don't start

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with each individual thread.
You have to start where the

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thread leads you to.
And I, I think that for me is,

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is why this movie works.
And the, the fascinating thing

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is the big thing that I took
away watching Inglourious

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Basterds this time is that every
single character in this movie

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is a bastard in their own right.
Like they are all illegitimate

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children in their area of
expertise.

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And they, they are all asking
the question, how do we know who

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we are?
And I, I think you see that like

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out of rain.
I the first time I saw this, I

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don't think this would have hit
me at all, but Brad Pitt's

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character, Aldo Rain, who's
this, you know, hillbilly from,

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from Virginia or Tennessee?
Yeah, I think Tennessee.

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Yeah, who, you know, just wants
to kill some Nazis.

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What he really wants to do is
reveal them for the evils that

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they are.
And the question he continually

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asks of like, when you go home,
are you going to take off that

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Nazi uniform and just pretend
like this never happened?

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And he, like, he won't let them
forget what they did.

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And I think that's like the
question that that Tarantino is

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asking throughout the film.
Like, are we going to just let

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people forget what happened in
World War 2 or are we going to

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remember it?
And I think that's why at the

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end of the film, you know, Brad
Pitt looks down into the camera

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as Quentin Tarantino and says,
you know, I think this is my

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masterpiece.
There's a ton of Tarantino

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injecting himself and his point
of view into this script.

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You know, even at the beginning
of the movie or I guess you

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know, 30 minutes in, whatever,
the first time Daniel Bruhl's

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character, who is like the
infamous Nazi war hero, he is

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talking with Shoshana, the
theater owner.

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He she says something about
like, oh, we respect directors

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in this country.
And it's like, OK, Quentin,

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like, we we get it, dude.
And yeah, you're right.

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The direct address into camera
at the end of the movie where he

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just tells you, Yep, this is my
masterpiece again.

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It's like thumbs up.
Good job, bud.

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I'm glad.
I'm glad you feel this way.

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You know, Yeah, Brad, I really,
I think that's a great way of

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framing the movie.
And I don't know how long we can

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go without talking about the
writing of the film itself.

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This is regarded by many critics
now as Tarantino's best writing.

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I think I would still consider
Pulp Fiction to be his best

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written movie, but this
definitely has some of the

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strongest screenplay moments in
it.

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And it all really does come down
to that ending you were talking

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about.
And I think very famously to set

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the stage here, Tarantino had
been working on this script for

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about a decade.
He, he wrote most of it in 1998

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and kind of retooled bits and
pieces of it, but couldn't

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settle on an ending for this
movie.

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He eventually picked it back up
after doing Kill Bill and

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continued writing on it.
And he used Pulp Fiction to help

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guide the length of each of
these three storylines.

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And I don't, you know, but
honestly, Brad, I've thought

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about this a lot.
I think one of my issues with

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this movie, and it is kind of a
minor issue because I feel like

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this movie works nearly
perfectly, but at one point he

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was kicking around the idea of
doing this as a miniseries

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instead of as a movie.
And back in 2009, you didn't

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have the HBO 8 episode season
and then you're done like as

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much as you do today.
I really do wonder if this might

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have done better as like a 4 to
8 episode miniseries and really

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fleshed some of these storylines
out a little bit because it

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feels like they are not slowly
developing, but that he's really

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taking his time setting the
stage and you getting to know

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these characters and then huge
violent outbursts where

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characters are just killed that
you've spent so much time with.

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It really is shocking and it's
super effective.

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But then I feel like you get to
the end of the movie, The ending

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that he was struggling with for
so long, and it goes so quickly

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and it's such a literal
explosion of violence that it

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almost feels like an anticlimax.
And I, I really don't like

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saying that because it's like,
how could this be any more

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heightened than it is?
Like it's, it's someone's face

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projected onto a burning screen,
cackling with evil Glee while

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other guys are machine gunning
from like the crow's nest.

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And then everything exploit like
it is.

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It is outrageously violent and
kind of a great payoff to the

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build up, but I almost feel like
the build up is so expert that

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no ending could do justice to
the 1st 90% of the movie, if

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that makes sense.
That is, that is an interesting

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take.
Do you feel like that's more

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aimed at the explosive ending or
the little like epilogue that

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you get with Londa and Rain?
Kind of both and and especially

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because like, the explosive
ending is happening and then

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there's a hard cut to the next
day.

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They're just driving Londa out
of town.

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And you're like, wait, wait,
wait, wait, wait.

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Like, I want to see the
aftermath a little bit here.

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Like, you know what I mean?
And I just feel like some of the

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the character beats, like, you
understand, through body

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language, if not dialogue, that
Shoshanna and her boyfriend,

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what's his name, Marcel Marcel
are going to kill themselves.

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They don't really say it.
But then like when they embrace

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at the end and she starts
crying, you're like, Oh, yeah,

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they're this is suicide mission.
You don't really understand that

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the bastards are all in on
killing themselves either.

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And I think that was one thing
for me where when you get that

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reveal that they have dynamite
hidden in their pant legs, I'm

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like, oh, I don't think they're
planning on getting out of here.

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And it's just, I think there's
little moments like that where

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it's like, Tarantino, you've
taken 2 1/2 hours to get us to

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this point.
Can you give us like 15 seconds

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to establish that these guys
never intended to come home

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anyway?
Because I don't feel like that

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those kind of things were folded
in.

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And then there's this huge
explosive suicide mission at the

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end of the movie.
And I feel like you don't really

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get a chance to, I don't want to
say mourn the characters, but

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you know what I mean?
Like, some characters have a

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really great send off.
Some characters have a really

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quick, brutal send off.
But I feel like every send off

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before that ending made sense in
the context of the movie.

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Even like when when Fassbender's
character gets killed in the

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Tavern, you're like wow that's
that's crazy.

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I thought that he was going to
be in the rest of the movie, but

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you understand that there's a
larger plot at play here that we

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need to move on to.
But when all those guys die at

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the end of the movie, there's
nothing more to go on to.

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It's just kind of like boom and
we're done, you know what I

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mean?
None of those deaths mattered,

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Bob.
The only death that was brutal

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and undeserved and mattered was
poor Private Wilhelm.

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My boy Willie just became a
father, and Diane Kruger just

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guns him down mercilessly.
I was, I was like, I was very

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torn up about that.
Yeah, it happens, man.

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They couldn't let anybody out of
that basement.

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You were torn up about the Nazi.
I was you just became a.

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Father Bob Boo Boo.
You know, honestly, what I, what

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really helped me love this movie
more was when we watched The

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Great Dictator for this podcast
and I was thinking about how we

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parody things now versus how we
parodied things back then.

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And if you watch any sort of
parody movie, whether it be The

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Great Dictator, whether it be
Blazing Saddles, I feel like all

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the way up through the 90s,
parody movies were kind of just

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like either it was done in good
fun or it was done because that

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guy.
And those were like the two

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options.
And today I feel like parody is

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done in such a walking on egg
shells way that the comedy has

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very little bite to it.
And The Great Dictator really

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helped me understand like, no,
no, these guys are evil.

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We need to remember that this is
this is very black and white and

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those guys.
And even when we introduce a

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sympathetic Nazi at the end of
the day, guess what?

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That guy.
And I really felt like, wow, I

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get it now.
Not that I didn't get Nazis

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before, but it's like the the
way that Tarantino kills the

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characters with such Glee and
with such abandoned.

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It never felt narratively
satisfying to me until this time

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around and I realized the whole
operative like element of this

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movie is just it doesn't matter.
Those guys, they're Nazis.

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Yeah, no, I, I mean, I am 100%
with you there, Bob, but you

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just said that the the ending
was anticlimactic for you, that

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it was a a disappointing end to
a a exciting or impressive

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series of events like I, like
I'm with you.

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I think the ending was was
perfect.

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Melanie Laurent is, is just like
cackling like a banshee on

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screen and the flames are going
up.

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I, I thought it was incredible.
Also, I don't know if to go back

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to an earlier point you made, I
don't know if this was

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originally a suicide mission.
Like in my mind, I, I was

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thinking that it was like a,
hey, this is how we smuggle this

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stuff in, but we're going to
leave it under our seats and let

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it explode and, and go up and
shoot all the guys and, and

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cause chaos and leave.
I I never took it for either

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Shoshanna and Marcel or the
Bastards as a true suicide

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mission until everything kind of
went to crap.

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And at that point, they were
like, well, we're going to make

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sure that we at least kill
Hitler.

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Well, I mean, Marcel for sure
dies just because he's like

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right next to the fire.
I don't think there's any escape

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for him.
They also make sure that they

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lock all the doors so that
nobody can get out.

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I don't think Shoshanna had any
intention of escaping, you know

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what I mean?
Like.

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I think are out of the four.
I mean obviously they show

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Shoshanna and two of the
bastards die.

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I think Marcel escapes.
Like he just flicks it on and

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then runs away.
Like they don't show him running

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away, but they don't show him
dying.

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We want to hold out hope that
Marcel lives do.

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You.
Think the two bastards that are

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up in, you know, Hitler's little
box and shooting.

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Did they just get so caught up
in the act of killing Nazis that

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they forgot to take their
dynamite off?

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Because they make no effort to
escape either and they have to

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know when it's going to explode.
Yeah, maybe that that would be

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my guess.
I I just never got the feel that

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it was a true suicide mission.
I think.

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I think that Marcel and
Shoshanna, they're like emotions

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was from the fact that they were
like, hey, like we're about to

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burn down the thing that brought
us together and there's a chance

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we could die.
Like, I think that's there.

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But you know, she didn't know
that Frederick was going to come

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in and be a a Nazi Dick.
Like.

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I think I figured out what I
would have liked better about

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the ending of this movie.
All right, tell me, Bob.

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Here you go, Quentin Tarantino.
Let me give you some notes on

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your Academy Award-winning
script.

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So I think the the corollary to
the ending is the scene in the

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Tavern.
Oh, we talked extensively back

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in Season 1 about how that
Tavern scene follows this whole

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thing that Tarantino talked
about with suspense of like,

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drawing out the rubber band as
far as you can possibly take it

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before it snaps back.
And that scene ends with that

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sort of explosive violence that
Tarantino is known for, similar

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to the ending of Reservoir Dogs.
And I've been trying to figure

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out why that sequence works so
much better for me than the

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actual ending of the movie.
And I think that it's because,

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to be quite frank, there's no
there's no escape from that

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room.
We have to understand that

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everyone in that room is doomed.
And it has to sink in for us the

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way it sinks in for Michael
Fassbender when he finally

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switches from German back to
English and just accepts his

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fate.
And then, you know, let's see

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how many people we can kill
before we get killed.

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And I think the ending of the
movie, the mistake that

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Tarantino makes for me is that
what's happening in the theater

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is really, really suspenseful,
whether it be Landa choking out

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Diane Kruger or Shoshana's whole
thing with Daniel Bruhl or the

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bastards trying to get up into
Hitler's box.

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But we keep cutting away from
what's actually happening in the

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theater to when Landa takes Brad
Pitt and BJ Novak and they're

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negotiating.
And I almost wish we had just

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completely finished up the
theater part.

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Boom, explosion, Hitler machine
gunned in the face, everybody's

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dead.
And then instead of cutting to

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the end of the movie, we cut to
the negotiation table.

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Because those guys may not even
know yet what's happened in the

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theater, right?
And I feel like constantly

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cutting back and forth between
the negotiation and what's

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happening in the theater took
away from the impact of what

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happened in the theater for me.
I don't know, It seems like a

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minor change to me, but I think
taking us out of the tension

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that he's building in the
theater really did kind of

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undercut the payoff for me.
Yeah, or I think the better

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option would be to once, you
know, he has Aldo tackled in a

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really great like that's just a
great cut to, you know, the man

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in the white smoking jacket
Boom, he gets tackled like it's

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it's just perfect comedy.
What, like from there maybe you

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just do the entire
interrogations?

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Right, one or the other.
Yeah, like you.

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You do the whole interrogation
scene, you do the whole

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explosive finale.
I think that might work better.

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Yeah, because you get you get
the reveal that Landa is really

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scheming earlier and then they
make this deal with the devil

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and then you cut back to the
theater and see the really

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cathartic let's machine gun
Hitler in the face.

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Yeah, I think that would work
better.

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You're you're right about that,
the ordering of it.

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Can you just say that one more
time?

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All right, dude.
Well, we've we've done what we

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usually do in the back half of
the episode.

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First, we haven't talked
performances, we haven't really

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talked direction.
Let's save that and do that when

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we come back from break.
But unfortunately for us, Brad,

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it is time to try some Basil
Hayden's.

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So what do you say we get to it?
Poop.

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Hayden's.
Wow, Did you think of that all

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on your own, Brad?
I'm.

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I'm quite brilliant when it
comes to insults, Bob.

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All right, let's get to it.
All right, so today we are

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trying Basil Hayden, or as Brad
calls it, poop.

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Hayden Poop.
Poop.

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Hayden possibly the most
ridiculous insult you've ever

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given anything.
Brad, I'm.

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I'm thinking of, oh man, I'm
thinking of Anchorman, our very

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first episode we ever recorded
When he goes you, you poopy

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mouth.
So Basil Hayden is an

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interesting brand.
And you know what's really

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interesting about it, Brad, is
that they have kind of changed

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the name of the product.
It used to be called Basil

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Hayden's with an apostrophe S on
the end of it.

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They rebranded a couple years
ago and now it just says Basil

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Hayden.
It's no longer possessive.

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It's as if he's disowning his
own whiskey.

445
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,200
At this point he's just the
donor that like $10 million and

446
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,480
they named it after.
Him you can use my name, but you

447
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,400
can't say it belongs to me the.
Basil Hayden bottle of whiskey

448
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,720
juice.
OK, so this whiskey is made by

449
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,040
the Jim Beam Corporation, Beam
Suntory, we'll call it now.

450
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,880
It is one of four small batch
bourbons that they make in a

451
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,520
special kind of vertical, Basil
Hayden being one of them.

452
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,480
Baker's Bookers and Knob Creek
are the other ones.

453
00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:13,800
So this was released first in
1992.

454
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,120
It's an ongoing release.
It is 80 proof.

455
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:22,880
The undisclosed mash bill is
rumored to be 62% corn, 27 rye

456
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,160
and 10 barley.
So it is a high rye mash bill,

457
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,440
but it's watered away down to 80
proof.

458
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:35,120
Yeah, I, I want to get into it.
And I will say I came into this

459
00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:39,000
not having drank basil Hayden or
or Hayden's or any type of

460
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,120
basil.
I wanted to give it every chance

461
00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:45,400
it could get.
Like I, I, I wanted it to be

462
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,480
better than I remembered it.
The nose.

463
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,560
Therefore I came out to a six
out of 10 on.

464
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,040
I thought that there was some
orange zest.

465
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,720
I thought that it was corn.
There was caramel and it was a

466
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,240
little bit oaky.
They didn't have anything that

467
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,440
popped out to me, but there was
nothing, nothing rough about it.

468
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,560
And that little bit of orange
zest gave it a little bit of

469
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,880
character.
So, you know, it was decent.

470
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,920
I'm having an interesting
experience with this, Brad,

471
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,600
because this is probably the
most unique nose that I've had

472
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,280
in a few weeks on this podcast.
And so I may be overestimating

473
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,640
how good it is, but I get a lot
of tart green apple on this.

474
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,920
I get a lot of that orange zest
you're talking about.

475
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,440
And then I get this candy that
I've never liked but I remember

476
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,840
very fondly.
It's like, I don't know how to

477
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,440
what they're called.
They're like little green wedges

478
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,200
that are rolled in sugar.
They're like the real gummy,

479
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,920
like old school candy and
they're like mint flavored.

480
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:42,680
They.
Sell them?

481
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,360
No idea.
Man, I don't know what they're

482
00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:46,600
freaking called.
They're not like they sell them

483
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,480
like next to the circus peanuts
in the candy store, you know

484
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,000
what I mean?
They're like old people candy,

485
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,200
you know?
You know, like the orange slices

486
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,440
that you can get, they're like
kind of jellyish and they're

487
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,760
rolled in.
Yeah, it's like that.

488
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,480
Disgusting.
Yes, it's like that, but the

489
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,040
green ones and they're kind of
minty.

490
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,440
I get that on the nose.
And then the last disgusting,

491
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,360
yes, I get I get black licorice
and you don't like black

492
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:10,440
licorice at all, but I find it
to be like really, really potent

493
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,040
on this nose.
I have no idea what that's going

494
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,160
to do for the taste of this, but
I really dig this nose.

495
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,560
I'm going to give it an 8 out of
10.

496
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,800
I like I like the phrasing you
use there.

497
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,360
You don't like it at all, but I
find it to be potent.

498
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,720
That doesn't give me any clue on
whether or not you also don't

499
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,600
like it or do like it.
I like black liver is fine.

500
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,920
I don't know that I want it in
my bourbon, but like, it's an

501
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,960
interesting note to have.
Yeah, no, it it is.

502
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,520
I I've smelt anis on a few
different things and it's not

503
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,880
the worst thing that can happen
on a whiskey.

504
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,320
What actually one of my favorite
Irish whiskeys, the Sexton has

505
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:54,120
kind of a strong, you know, anis
note on the nose and and it's it

506
00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:57,680
doesn't ruin it for me.
So look at me expanding my

507
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,640
horizons.
All right, let's talk taste,

508
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,000
man.
Yeah.

509
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:07,800
Is there any Bob I got like a
little hint of like a peachy

510
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:12,960
fruity, like a juicy Peach note.
But the longer I drink it, there

511
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:21,200
was corn and and water.
I could taste water and and 4

512
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,040
1/2 Bob.
I don't hate this.

513
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,720
Well, you can go kick rocks.
Yeah, so it's interesting.

514
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:33,040
Like there's very little bourbon
character to this on the palate.

515
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,760
It's very spicy and it drinks a
lot hotter than 80 proof for me.

516
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,240
Like it's really prickly on my
tongue.

517
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,000
I do get that black licorice,
and I can't tell which of the

518
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,640
secondary grains is more
prominent here, Brad.

519
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,400
It doesn't really taste like a
rye, but it kind of has the

520
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,920
mouthfeel experience of a rye
where it's like that more

521
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,920
herbal, more prickly, a little
more peppery, But I actually

522
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,800
think it takes on more of the
barley character on the palate

523
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,800
itself.
I get a lot of oak on this and I

524
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,120
get like almost like spicy black
licorice.

525
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,960
It's a really interesting
experience.

526
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,920
It's way out of the wheelhouse
of usual Jim Beam products.

527
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,960
I'm not getting any of that kind
of trademark peanut buttery or

528
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,280
just nutty notes on this.
But I I don't mind this Brad.

529
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,640
It's not my favorite, but it's
OK.

530
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,480
I'll give it a 7 out of 10.
No, Bob, go home.

531
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:33,080
The finish is garbage.
There's some oak and some water

532
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:39,960
and and some corn and it just is
harsh and and doesn't leave you

533
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,400
in a good place.
So I give it a three out of 10

534
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,120
on the finish.
It does turn a little bit bitter

535
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,360
on the end for sure, but at 80
proof, I don't know that there's

536
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,840
a lot of whiskeys out there that
leave much of an impression on

537
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,280
the finish.
You know, I'm thinking about

538
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,280
like benchmark.
I'm thinking about, you know,

539
00:29:55,280 --> 00:30:00,280
whatever old granddad this
definitely I I noticed it going

540
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,880
down a little bit, but there's
not much Kentucky hug that

541
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,440
dissipates quickly.
And the flavor that's left

542
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,040
behind on the palate is oak and
almost raw grain.

543
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,600
I do think this is like, this is
where this one suffers.

544
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,720
I still don't hate it, but I'm
just going to give it a six out

545
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,840
of 10 on the finish.
Yeah, and then balance, I will

546
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:24,160
say like it's not the most well
balanced whiskey I've ever had,

547
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,560
but it's not the worst.
I'll give it a 5 out of 10 on

548
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:28,240
balance.
I'm.

549
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,800
Going to give it a 7 1/2.
I looked at my scores, it goes

550
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,960
876.
So there's a pretty obvious drop

551
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,600
off from the nose through to the
finish, but it's not like a

552
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,160
steep drop off for me.
So it's fairly well balanced.

553
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,360
I think where I'm really going
to punish this whiskey Brad is

554
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,240
on the price.
And what is this currently

555
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,960
selling at at the time of
recording in the state of Ohio?

556
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,920
$40.
That's too much money.

557
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,880
This is at least four years old,
but it's 80 proof guys.

558
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,640
Like what are we doing here?
If if, if you really wanted to

559
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,120
make this be the fancy 80
proofer, which it's clearly

560
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,520
trying to be, then I think you
could put the cap on this at $30

561
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,960
and it would be like, OK, I
still think that's overpriced,

562
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,240
but I get what they're trying to
do at $40.

563
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,760
It's like this is just greedy,
you know?

564
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,560
Yeah, 100%.
You said that you were going to

565
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,680
punish it.
I don't know if you can punish

566
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,440
it as badly as I will.
Bob, what?

567
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,600
What's your value score here?
I'm going to give one of my

568
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,520
lowest value scores of all time
to this after.

569
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,280
I will say after an experience,
a tasting experience that was

570
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,720
fairly pleasant, this is getting
a 2 1/2 out of 10 for me.

571
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:46,240
Bob, I'm going to give this a .5
out of 10, the lowest, the

572
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:51,600
lowest score you can give it.
I think that this is a 15 to $20

573
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,200
whiskey masquerading as a $40
whiskey, and that is

574
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,960
unacceptable.
I totally agree.

575
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,880
I will say, like if there's
anything I can defend about

576
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,120
Basil Hayden, they do put some
effort into the packaging.

577
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,080
Like it is clearly designed to
be seen as the quote UN quote

578
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,440
fancy low proofer.
And if you are gifting somebody

579
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,760
a whiskey that's not really into
whiskey and you want to try to

580
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,520
get them like acclimated to
whiskey, I don't know that this

581
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,280
is the best whiskey to do it
with, but it might be the most

582
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,440
presentable option.
Does that make sense?

583
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,840
Like.
No.

584
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,080
It looks nice on the shelf.
It does.

585
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,200
It just it does.
What the juice is.

586
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,000
I literally just said that.
I just said I don't think this

587
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,760
is the best whiskey, but like I
can see how they're trying to

588
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,280
position it in the market.
Now, does that equate to a $40

589
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,200
price tag?
Absolutely not, Brad.

590
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,280
If it like like I said, if they
put this at $30, where do you

591
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,320
think your value score would be
then?

592
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,800
3:00 to 4:00.
Yeah, I'd probably up mine to

593
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,680
like a six again just because of
the packaging, but this is like

594
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,240
drastically overpriced.
And yeah, and I had a good

595
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,200
drinking experience, way better
than you did.

596
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,240
And I'm still coming out to a 31
out of 50 on this.

597
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,240
Guess, just guess where my score
is, Bob.

598
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,120
I don't know low. 20s Nineteen
out of 50.

599
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,720
Oh my.
Gosh, is that the same score you

600
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,600
gave it back in Season 1?
It's got to be close.

601
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,480
Back in season 1, we did not do
value score.

602
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:34,080
We are very close to having the
lowest rated whiskey ever on

603
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,160
this show now because of Brad's
19.

604
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:43,720
I I gave it out of 40.
Yeah, in season 1 you gave it a

605
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,720
17 out of 40.
I gave it a 5.5.

606
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,640
That seems harsh, Brad.
You know, I'm not going to lie,

607
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,240
I know we didn't know a lot
about whiskey back then, but

608
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,400
this seems, that seems a little
drastic.

609
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,520
Yeah, I mean, adding in another
category, so an average of five

610
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,280
points, I came out 14 points
higher.

611
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:11,280
So you know, I'm I'm way less
harsh than I was in season 1

612
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:16,840
when I gave it a 5.5 out of 40.
And yet here we are sitting at a

613
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:22,040
50 out of 100 or a 25 out of 50
on average.

614
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,120
Wow, have we ever come out to
say 50 out of 100?

615
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,080
Before, I don't know how to
think, like right on the dot.

616
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,199
I don't know that we have.
Yeah, that's, wow, bad whiskey.

617
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:34,679
This is landing us in territory
that we've had with things like

618
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,000
Jameson cold brew, which we
didn't consider a whiskey.

619
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,960
I don't know that that is a
badge of honor that Jim Beam

620
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,120
wants to display.
Brad, this is very lowly, very

621
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,880
lowly scored.
This is a very low score for us.

622
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,080
Yeah, it's garbage whiskey that
you shouldn't drink.

623
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,600
I'm not going to recommend it, I
actually don't.

624
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,760
I don't hate it and I think that
it's worth a pour at the bar if

625
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,600
you're spending like $6 or less
on it.

626
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,480
But if it's any more than that,
like I wouldn't even recommend a

627
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,720
pour of it.
You can get way better 80 proof

628
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:08,680
whiskey for half the price or
lower.

629
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,760
It's just astronomically priced,
dude.

630
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,880
Yeah, or go drink Scotch at 80
proof because it's way, way

631
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,640
better.
And, and not even like peated

632
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,560
scotches or anything like go
drink a Bayside, go drink Cutty

633
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,600
Sark, go drink, go drink Cutty
Sark.

634
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,480
It's way better than this.
All right, man, let's get back

635
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,240
into talking about Inglorious
Basterds.

636
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:31,080
What do you say?
Let's get to it.

637
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:36,960
All right, everybody, That was
poop.

638
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,560
Hayden's a whiskey that we
cannot recommend to you.

639
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,600
You remind me of Shannon Sharpe
when he was on Undisputed with

640
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,720
Skip Bayless and every time they
talk about LeBron James, he

641
00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:49,400
would be.
He just say, oh, you mean GOAT

642
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,000
James?
GOAT James, Yeah.

643
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,920
Yep.
Basil Hayden's Oh, you mean poop

644
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,960
Hayden?
That's how that's how I would

645
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,480
refer to Steph Curry if I was on
Undisputed.

646
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,920
I just, oh, you mean poop Curry?
I disagree, I don't like Steph

647
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,040
but I got to respect him.
He is not poop.

648
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,000
Zero respect.
He hasn't.

649
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,200
He should have no affiliation
with Basil Hayden's.

650
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,360
That's all I have to say.
Oh man.

651
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,080
Well, you know what doesn't have
any affiliation with Basil

652
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,640
Hayden's?
Is it Canada's favorite segment?

653
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,040
It sure is 2 facts and a
falsehood Brad.

654
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:30,760
Is going to try to stump you.
Ball 2 are right and what is

655
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,280
wrong?
2 facts and a falsehood. 2 Facts

656
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,160
and a Falsehood is the part of
the podcast where Brad presents

657
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,040
three items to me as fact about
the making of this movie, one of

658
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,840
which is a complete lie and I
have to figure out which one

659
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:49,320
that is Brad.
I don't know a ton about the

660
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,920
making of this movie.
I I mean aside from what I just

661
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,320
recited in the first half from
the Wikipedia page, so you might

662
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,440
get me on this one.
I'm excited to get you as I

663
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,280
usually do.
All right man, hit me with your

664
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,720
two facts and a falsehood fact.
#1 Inglourious Basterds was one

665
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:11,120
of the front runners for the
prestigious Palm de Ore at the

666
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,920
Cannes Film Festival.
I'm sorry, can.

667
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,200
You can you pronounce that a
little more French?

668
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,680
Oh yeah, so sorry, fact #1
Inglourious Basterds was one of

669
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,560
the front runners for the
prestigious Palm De.

670
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,600
There it.
Is.

671
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,080
At the Cannes Film Festival, but
was edged out by UN Prophete, a

672
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,480
French prison crime film by
Jacques Audia.

673
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,400
That's a good movie.
That's, like, legit it.

674
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,760
Yeah.
It was released in America.

675
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,000
They, you know, obviously gave
it an English title, but it's

676
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,280
called a prophet.
Really good movie.

677
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,040
Yeah, all right, I'm going to
watch it sometime.

678
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,800
Fact #2 The role of Shoshanna
Dreyfus's father Jacob, who was

679
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,160
briefly seen hiding beneath the
floorboards at the start of the

680
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,960
film, was played by Patrick
Elias, whose father was Buddy

681
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,000
Elias, who was a first cousin of
Anne Frank.

682
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,080
Fact #3 When asked how he got
into the violent baseball bat

683
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,520
wielding mindset of the Bear
Jew, Eli Roth partially

684
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,960
attributed his performance to
the historically accurate

685
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,120
costumes, saying quote, being in
wool underwear will make you

686
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,760
want to kill anything.
That's really funny.

687
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,360
If you wrote that one then kudos
on a a great delivery.

688
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:27,520
I like that one.
Thanks man.

689
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:38,280
I'm struggling with #2 #2 sounds
like man you.

690
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,600
You got me today dude.
I can't tell it's either two or

691
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,000
three.
I think 1's true. 2 sounds very

692
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,000
Tarantino Y, like he loves to
put people in his movies that

693
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,600
are relatives of old movie stars
that he knows.

694
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:57,360
I'm going to say 2's The
Falsehood, but I think it's

695
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,200
probably 3.
Bob, you are wrong on both

696
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,120
accounts.
Is 1 the falsehood it was?

697
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,720
What 1 The Fondor.
The White Ribbon.

698
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,160
Oh yeah, You know who directed
that?

699
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:13,080
Michael Haneke.
Yeah, Hanukkah.

700
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,440
He.
Hanukkah.

701
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,440
He directed your favorite film
of all time, Amor 0.

702
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,880
Oh nice.
Yeah, what a great, great, fun

703
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,440
family film.
Oh man, listen, you saw by far

704
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,560
the tamest Michael Hanukkah
film.

705
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,480
Like by a lot.
What?

706
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,760
What is the White Ribbon about?
The White Ribbon is about a town

707
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,200
in, I don't know if it's Germany
or not, but it's it's kind of a

708
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,120
metaphor for the way that the
Nazis treated the Jewish people.

709
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,080
Yeah, that movie doesn't have a
lot of violence in it either, so

710
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,480
that's another tame one from
him.

711
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,760
But in any case, you know this
movie and that movie have a lot

712
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,160
in common.
Except in this movie Hitler gets

713
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,160
machine gunned in the face.
He sure does do the the the

714
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:03,480
practical effects of it's not
Hitler, it's when Goebbels is

715
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,000
getting like machine gun in the
face.

716
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,440
Like you can just see the fake
face getting blown.

717
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,640
No, dude, that's Hitler.
That's Hitler when they're doing

718
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,160
that at the very end of the
movie.

719
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,320
Well, I think.
They show both of them happen.

720
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,640
I, I, I thought it was Gobble's
face, but whichever.

721
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,680
Yeah, but, but it's, it's
beautifully terrible.

722
00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:24,040
Oh my gosh.
And it's like, really, really

723
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,560
gross.
Yeah, Bob, I'm really proud of

724
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,880
myself.
I was, I was thinking about this

725
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,720
one and I was reading about it
and I was like, you know, I'm

726
00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:36,800
going to test Bob's knowledge of
palm winners.

727
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,120
The the Cannes Film Festival is
really hard to keep track of for

728
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,320
me in terms of like, you know,
you look at the list of movies

729
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,280
that played there and then you
don't remember, was that movie

730
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,120
actually in competition or were
they just kind of debuting it

731
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,000
there?
And I always feel like they pick

732
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,320
a winner and then the winner of
the Palm Door is never the movie

733
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,640
that ends up like making it into
the lexicon, you know, the

734
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,240
pantheon of of movies.
And so you said a prophet.

735
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:06,000
And I was like, oh, I remember
seeing it.

736
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,160
I remember it being an
international competition.

737
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,600
That sounds right.
I would never have remembered

738
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,280
that.
The White Ribbon, you know,

739
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,360
whatever.
Yeah.

740
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,200
You got me.
Nailed it.

741
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,360
All right.
All right, man, let's get back

742
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,440
into talking about the movie
that we actually are reviewing

743
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,600
today, Inglourious Basterds.
And let's talk performances.

744
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,640
This is a huge cast full of
people who would go on to become

745
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,200
stars that weren't quite stars
yet and led by one of the

746
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,240
biggest movie stars in the world
in what is essentially A

747
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:38,440
supporting role.
Like, he's really not in the

748
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,840
movie that much.
Brad Pitt.

749
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,680
Yeah.
And, and honestly, the first

750
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,720
time through, the one of the big
things I remember saying was

751
00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:52,600
that we didn't care for the the
bastard's military unit and any

752
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,760
scenes that they were in.
And like this time through, I'm

753
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:01,000
like, what were we saying?
Like I, I just felt like they

754
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,160
were barely in the movie this
time and their little bit of a

755
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,840
role enhanced the film more than
detracted from it.

756
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,640
Like I like, I thought that the
opening scene of them and

757
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,960
establishing what they are doing
in the country, in the French

758
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,760
countryside was perfect.
And it led to a lot of other

759
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,720
things that that made a lot of
sense when Hitler is talking

760
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:25,040
about, you know, the these bear
Jews and, and, and them, them

761
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:30,000
messing up all their plans.
Like you understand how afraid

762
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,760
they are because you've seen how
terrifying they are.

763
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,240
And that's all that Tarantino
needed them to do was he needed

764
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:39,520
a like AI don't know.
It's like a 8 to 12 minute scene

765
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:41,680
to establish how terrifying they
are.

766
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,880
And then they just kind of go
into the background and do their

767
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,840
thing.
And I that worked for me this

768
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,280
time.
Yeah, totally agree.

769
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,240
I just wish there was more of
them, you know?

770
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,880
Like the exact opposite of how
we felt four years.

771
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,800
There's not enough bastards in
this movie that's called

772
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,520
Inglourious Basterds.
Like, like, just put them in

773
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,080
more scenes, please.
And again, that's another area

774
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,480
where I feel like, OK, if this
was a four hour movie or

775
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,360
miniseries, would it be even
better?

776
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,760
Or would we hit the point where
it's like, all right, this is a

777
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,600
little too much of the messing
with World War 2 history.

778
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,920
And I can't, I honestly can't
decide what I would like better

779
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,960
when it comes to this movie.
Now the grass is always greener

780
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,320
on the other side.
Bob, I, I think what we got is,

781
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,480
is just about perfect, so.
When it comes to the bastards

782
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,920
themselves, the people in Brad
Pitt's unit, I do have a bit of

783
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,000
a quibble.
And it's like.

784
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,400
Only Brad Novak?
Well, yes, only.

785
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:41,600
Brad Pitt and the Bear Jew and
the the guy that was a Nazi and

786
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,280
defected and became like Stitz.
Stiglitz.

787
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,680
Stiglitz.
Who goes Stiglitz.

788
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,560
Yes, yeah.
Those are the only three that

789
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,400
like have faces in the movie, if
you know what I mean.

790
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,480
Like they're, they're fleshed
out a little bit and then, you

791
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,440
know, the bear Jew dies,
Stiglitz dies, Brad Pitt's off

792
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,560
getting kidnapped and he's
thrown in the back of a truck

793
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,200
with BJ Novak, who you only know
if you've watched the office at

794
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,720
this point, right?
And he's like, oh, Udovich is

795
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:08,400
that you?
And then Udovich is like, Yep,

796
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:13,000
it's me.
And they literally don't give

797
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,440
him one line in the movie before
that moment.

798
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,560
And I, I just kind of wish that
like if that's going to be the

799
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,400
guy next to Brad Pitt at the end
of the movie that we had had, I

800
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,360
don't know, a scene featuring
him before then.

801
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,760
He's just in the background.
And it I just, you know what I

802
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,880
mean?
Like give me 15 seconds of

803
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,640
Udovich before the end of the
movie.

804
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,760
Yeah, I mean, I I think that the
the few points where Udovich

805
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,200
works.
Well actually that's you just

806
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,600
stated the falsehood, Bob.
That's my job here.

807
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,800
I am the stator of falsehoods.
He spends the entire inter

808
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,680
Garrison scene with Unovich.
Yeah, he does.

809
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,080
That's what I'm saying.
He gets put in the back of the

810
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,360
truck and they both have bags on
their heads.

811
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,160
And he says, Unovich, is that
you?

812
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,800
And then they get taken into the
interior like he.

813
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,160
But before that part of the
movie, Unovich doesn't have any

814
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,480
lines.
OK.

815
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,280
Yeah, yeah.
And like, I don't even know that

816
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,240
they introduce him at any point,
you know?

817
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,560
Yeah, I mean, they do at the
very start when he's like going

818
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,360
down the line and they're all
saying their names.

819
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,240
But that's that's literally it.
Yeah.

820
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:18,960
I'm trying to think.
I think he has a line or two in

821
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,600
the scene where they're
interrogating the German about

822
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,920
like, you know, German positions
on the map.

823
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,080
I think that he has a line or
two in there.

824
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:28,880
Maybe.
Yeah, I just.

825
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,560
Felt like the most the most
faceless guy becomes, you know,

826
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,440
Brad Pitt's right hand man at
the end of the movie.

827
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,640
And I really do love the use of
the way they use the bastards

828
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,880
throughout the movie.
Tarantino was heavily influenced

829
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,080
by The Dirty Dozen.
And you get that Like we're

830
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,560
super, you know the scene where
they rescue Stiglitz from the

831
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,960
prison and they just run in and
machine gun all those guys and

832
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,320
then they have this cool like
almost slow MO reveal of all of

833
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,160
the all of them coming out from
all the different crevices.

834
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,200
It's really cool.
I just wish we had more of them.

835
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:03,160
Yeah, yeah.
I, I think for me, I'm OK with

836
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,160
how much they are in the film,
partially because I think it

837
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:11,480
serves to reinforce what they
represent in the film, which is

838
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:17,600
not a active, like destroying
the entire German military.

839
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,240
They're this silent deadly
threat in the background that

840
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:24,800
you always have to worry about,
you know, if, if you are, you

841
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,240
know, Germany.
And so I, I think that they kind

842
00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:29,920
of represent that by not having
them in the film a ton, but

843
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,280
talking about them a lot.
It's not like that works for me

844
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,520
well enough.
I get enough scenes with them.

845
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,240
I think that the, the final
scenes with them in the theater

846
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:45,120
and trying to speak Italian and
all of that works perfectly for

847
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,240
me.
And at that point, all three

848
00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:50,840
threads have tied together.
So I'm like, I, I, I get enough

849
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,400
bastards in this movie.
I, I think that every scene

850
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,280
they're in is, is carefully
chosen and well executed.

851
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,480
And so I'm, I'm in with them.
Can we just talk about the

852
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,200
Italian scene for a second?
That's the best part of the

853
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,560
whole movie.
And and the famous thing about

854
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:11,040
from that is Brad Pitt, you
know, Bon Giorno and he and he

855
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,920
makes him say his name three
times in a row and each time he

856
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,520
gets more combative about it.
And it's just worse and worse.

857
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,960
And it's like, it's obvious that
Londa's fucking with them.

858
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,120
Right.
But yeah, my favorite beat in

859
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:26,160
that whole scene is that he goes
through all three guys.

860
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,160
And, you know, in the scene
before, he basically told the

861
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,440
third guy, like, you don't speak
any Italian, so just keep your

862
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:32,640
mouth shut.
Yep.

863
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,120
And then the third guy is the
guy who says his name one time.

864
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,640
And Londa's like, ah, good job.
Yeah.

865
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,560
Like, you actually pronounce
that very, very well.

866
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,640
Good job for you.
Yeah, no, 100% and and the way

867
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:50,000
that it's one of those moments
where you're like, Brad Pitt is

868
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,640
an incredible actor.
Oh, he's he's such a good

869
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,520
comedic actor too.
He doesn't get enough credit.

870
00:47:55,200 --> 00:48:00,480
And then you have Christoph
Waltz, just a stupendous actor.

871
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:05,680
And seeing the two of them next
to each other, it feels like you

872
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,760
get something special that you
don't get the rest of the movie.

873
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,720
And I just, I couldn't get
enough of the two of them.

874
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,640
And like, Brad Pitt is so
obviously from the South and

875
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,640
like the way he scrunches his
face up and the disdain that he

876
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:26,440
has, I all of it just works.
And it's just.

877
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,080
Perfect.
The third time he has to say

878
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,160
Gorlami.
He just he just leaves it a real

879
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,800
quietly.
Yeah, Gorlami.

880
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,920
It's it's so good.
Can I ask you what one question

881
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:46,040
about the script?
Why does Tarantino have Landa

882
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:52,280
murder Diane Kruger's character?
That's the only thing I couldn't

883
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,800
figure out in this film.
Because at that point he has

884
00:48:54,800 --> 00:49:01,880
already left the the stuff in
the box or he knows that he's

885
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,600
going to do that.
And like I I just was completely

886
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,200
confused.
Like he's already planning on

887
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,840
betraying Hitler.
Why does he murder this famous

888
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,120
German actress who is also
planning on betraying Hitler?

889
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,600
I think honestly, it kind of
goes back to your whole thing

890
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,120
about Brad Pitt saying, are you
going to take that uniform off?

891
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,080
Like I think he really is.
He's not only an opportunist who

892
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,480
happens to be employed as a Nazi
all through the movie, he says

893
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,880
stuff about like, I don't really
like hunting Jews, but who can

894
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,440
control the nickname?
I think he likes being a Nazi.

895
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,640
I think he, I think he actually
agrees with and identifies with

896
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,480
the ideologies of a Nazi.
And this person is a traitor and

897
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,280
he's going to kill her because
that's not only his job.

898
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:45,680
He's really pissed off that
someone would think that they

899
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,040
could outsmart him, you know,
and even more than being a Nazi,

900
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,840
I think it's that thing where at
the end of the movie, he's

901
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,080
caught by surprise that Brad
Pitt outsmarts him.

902
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,080
You know what I mean?
He's he's used to being the

903
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,600
cleverest person in the room.
So I think it's a combo of like

904
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,720
a he really is a Nazi and he
thinks that he can just talk his

905
00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:05,800
way out of it.
And Brad Pitt gets one over on

906
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:10,480
him and BI think he's offended
that she thinks she can dupe

907
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,840
him.
Yeah, that, that is very good.

908
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,320
I hadn't thought of it that way
before, but you're, you're 100%

909
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:17,680
right.
Especially about the smartest

910
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,040
person in the room.
Like when when he talks about

911
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,760
surrendering to them and he's
making all his demands and they,

912
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,960
you know, and then later they're
finally out in the woods and

913
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,360
he's like, and now I surrender
myself to you.

914
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,440
And like, he's just so pompous
and like, punchable.

915
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,480
Well, even at the even at the
negotiating table, he's like, I

916
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,800
thought you guys would have a
little more respect for me.

917
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,280
And they're like, no, we don't.
Yeah.

918
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,680
He's so appalled at the lack of.
Propriety.

919
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,400
Yeah, propriety.
I like that, the the lack of

920
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,240
propriety.
But Brad, I want to talk about

921
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:55,120
the other parts of the cast here
because we all know Christophe

922
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,840
Waltz is amazing.
There is the Shoshanna thread,

923
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,360
there is the Hans Londa thread,
and then there's this kind of

924
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:06,320
like only in the movie in the
middle parts, British troupe

925
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:08,840
Michael Bassbender and Diane
Kruger.

926
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:13,040
And I want to talk about them a
little bit because you think

927
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,720
they're going to be a major part
of the movie and they are built

928
00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:19,800
up in a very meticulous way and
methodical way.

929
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,880
And then they're just not in the
movie anymore.

930
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,120
And for a long time, that was
one of my biggest gripes with

931
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:25,720
this.
I actually really liked it.

932
00:51:25,720 --> 00:51:30,000
I liked watching this well laid
plan fall apart in real time.

933
00:51:31,240 --> 00:51:34,240
I thought that it was man, like
Fassbender's so good in this

934
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:36,840
movie.
And Roger Ebert even said like,

935
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,840
this guy's going to be a movie
star and he deserves it.

936
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,280
He's so freaking good.
I really struggle with Diane

937
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,320
Kruger in this movie, an actress
who is good in a lot of stuff.

938
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,640
But I'm, I want your opinion on
her in particular because I felt

939
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:57,800
like, you know, a, she's not
good at acting her way out of

940
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,920
that Tavern, right?
That doesn't mean that Diane

941
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,880
Kruger, the actual actress,
isn't playing the character

942
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,440
well.
But I found in even in other

943
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,960
scenes that she felt like her
line deliveries just didn't feel

944
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,360
as natural as other people's.
Like, she was kind of struggling

945
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,680
to get into the Tarantino rhythm
of the dialogue.

946
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:18,680
Yeah.
And I just couldn't place

947
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,520
whether it was her as an
actress, whether it was

948
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,040
Tarantino directing her or
whether it was one of those,

949
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:28,160
like, Django Unchained things
where people think Jamie Foxx is

950
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,320
bad in that movie, but then
forget that for 2/3 of the

951
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,520
movie, he's playing a guy
playing another guy.

952
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,680
And.
And I don't know if, like, maybe

953
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,160
that's what's going on with her.
I don't know what you think of

954
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,720
her.
People think Jamie Foxx is bad

955
00:52:41,720 --> 00:52:43,720
in Jango Unchained?
Yeah, people are dumb, dude.

956
00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:46,480
Well, I I know that I.
Just.

957
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,320
I didn't know that that was like
a common enough thing that it's

958
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,520
just shared on the Internet with
Jamie Foxx sucks as Django.

959
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,320
That's that's the dumbest thing
I've heard all day.

960
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:03,960
Diane Kruger.
I, I think out of all of like

961
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,920
the main actors in this film,
which I, I would put her in

962
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,680
there, I think she is the
weakest.

963
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:15,720
But I don't know if it's because
of her acting as much as I don't

964
00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:17,880
know.
I maybe she actually is good

965
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:22,560
because she's always trying to
play someone who is trying to

966
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,800
convince everyone else that she
is who she is saying that she

967
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,200
is.
Like every single scene she's

968
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,280
in, she's trying to convince the
Germans that she's a German

969
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,560
movie star in this random bar in
France, which doesn't make any

970
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,280
sense at all.
And she's trying to convince

971
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:43,400
Londa that she's just there with
her Italian escort and, and she

972
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:48,400
knows how fake and terrible this
is, and she knows how smart and

973
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,480
dangerous Londa is.
And so like, I don't know.

974
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:56,120
I actually think that her
hesitance and her stilted

975
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,200
delivery on certain things kind
of works.

976
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,920
It kind of feels like she's a
movie star who's in over her

977
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,160
head.
I never bought the Diane Kruger

978
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,520
was shot in the leg.
That was the thing that didn't

979
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:09,920
sell.
Like that was the moment I was

980
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:14,280
like, oh, I don't know if she's
as good as I thought that she

981
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,560
was in this movie.
Like every other time somebody

982
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,400
is getting a swastika carved
into their forehead or

983
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,680
something.
Like you, Christoph Waltz really

984
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:23,960
sells it.
At the end of the movie, it

985
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:28,520
feels like he's getting a knife
dug into his skull, whereas

986
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,400
she's laying there on the
Gurney, like with a bullet in

987
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,480
her leg.
And it just never felt like, I

988
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,440
don't know, it just didn't feel
like she was selling bean shot.

989
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,920
You know, if you're really, if
you were really going to go

990
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,240
method, get yourself shot in the
leg, Come on.

991
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:48,160
Yeah, have your your bones in
your legs shattered by a bullet.

992
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,760
Do it for the story.
That's real commitment right

993
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,600
there.
I held off on talking about

994
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,600
Melanie Laurent the entire
episode because Brad, I think

995
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:58,840
she is the best thing in this
movie.

996
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,320
And I was really, really, really
glad that when you intro to the

997
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,520
film, at the beginning you said
that she was the star of the

998
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:10,200
movie, because she is.
Breathtaking in just absolutely

999
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,360
incredible.
Like every single scene that she

1000
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:17,800
is in, she steals immediately.
Her eyes are striking and

1001
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,600
powerful.
She the way she delivers her

1002
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,120
lines are like cutting.
And then those moments of fear

1003
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:28,640
that she has when she's meeting
with Londa, I'm just blown away

1004
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,800
by it.
And like I was reading some

1005
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:36,240
stuff about the movie apparently
back then, Strussel, I'm

1006
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:39,200
referring to the scene where she
meets Londa as an adult for the

1007
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,480
first time.
Strussel is made with pig fat

1008
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:48,160
back then.
And so, so people have said that

1009
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:52,880
like even then, Londa was
suspicious that she was a Jew

1010
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,520
and was testing her by saying,
hey, that's.

1011
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,960
Interesting.
Strudel strussel.

1012
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:58,920
I don't think they're eating
strudel.

1013
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,440
I think they're eating strudel.
Sorry Strudel.

1014
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,600
All you know all the German
desserts.

1015
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,600
Streisel, Yeah.
Streisel.

1016
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:07,760
Yeah.
So they're eating strudel, which

1017
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,440
was made with pig fat, and
they're drinking milk, which is

1018
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,680
a representation of her family
farm.

1019
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,640
And I'm like, there's a part of
me that's like, there's no way

1020
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,960
that he would know that this is
Shoshana, who escaped from the

1021
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,880
farm seven years before.
Yeah, I think he would have done

1022
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,680
something.
And you know, to your point

1023
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,880
about him choking out Diane
Kruger, like.

1024
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,160
Like he would have done
something.

1025
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,920
Yes, 100%.
But I I think the strudel thing

1026
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,720
is a more valid point of like I
there's a part of me that just

1027
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:40,600
wants to believe that Hans would
eat that with everyone new he

1028
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,560
meets just as a way, as a way of
testing if they're Jewish.

1029
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:47,080
I like that.
Like that makes sense to me.

1030
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,880
Well, I think that kind of gets
me into the last thing I want to

1031
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,160
talk about before we go into our
final segment, and that's

1032
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:57,640
Tarantino's writing.
I wonder sometimes, Brad, why it

1033
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:02,880
is that we appreciate when
Tarantino obviously nakedly

1034
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,760
makes references to movies that
he loves and like shoehorns them

1035
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,840
in.
Why we celebrate that, but we

1036
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,480
don't like it when a superhero
movie does something fanservice

1037
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:19,360
Y Is it just because the fans
that he's servicing are so niche

1038
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,680
and so nerdy?
Servicing is a strong word.

1039
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:27,160
I used it on purpose.
Is it just because, like, film

1040
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,920
nerds like to be winked at in a
way that they don't like the

1041
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,640
general public to be winked at?
Because, you know, there's,

1042
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,480
there's things in this movie
like he has a complete aside

1043
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:40,040
where the camera is panning over
everybody at the premiere and

1044
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:44,560
Goebbels is talking to Emil
Yanings, who is famous silent

1045
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,040
movie actor.
He was the first, either the 1st

1046
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,960
or the 2nd recipient of best
actor at the Oscars.

1047
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,280
When the sound movies hit, his
thick German accent kind of

1048
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,400
prevented him from being famous
anymore.

1049
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,800
So he moved back to Germany and
then started a bunch of Nazi

1050
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,960
films.
And like, it's a, you know, it's

1051
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,480
a famous story of silent
Hollywood.

1052
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,040
It has nothing to do with this
movie.

1053
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,600
And including him is just kind
of like a fun little wink the

1054
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,480
camera.
But there's so many of those in

1055
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,080
this movie, you know, Fassbender
and Mike Myers talking about

1056
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,760
films and the number of times
that they talk about GW Papst in

1057
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:21,080
this movie, it's just like, at a
certain point it's like, I like

1058
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:25,400
this 'cause I'm a nerd.
But would we criticize this same

1059
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,480
thing if it was an MCU movie and
they were making references to

1060
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:33,000
like, you know, someone off run
of Spider Man from 1995?

1061
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:37,360
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, no, I, I think, I think

1062
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,640
that people always want to
criticize others and never

1063
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,880
criticize their own stuff.
So I think that both things you

1064
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,200
are saying are true.
But do you see it as like a

1065
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,320
detriment to the movie overall
or more just something that you

1066
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,000
kind of say, like, yeah, that's
just Tarantino.

1067
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,960
You have to kind of take it with
the rest of the stuff.

1068
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:01,400
I think the, I think the
difference this this might sound

1069
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,320
crappy.
I think the difference is that

1070
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,760
film nerds, when they see this,
they're like, Oh yeah, film

1071
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:15,400
nerd, dumb, cool silent films.
And when Marvel nerds see

1072
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,040
something like a one off Spider
Man thing from 1995 put into the

1073
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:23,880
movie, they can't not tell
everybody about it to show that

1074
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,800
they know the cool reference
that's happening.

1075
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,800
You know what I mean?
And I think film nerds do that

1076
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,080
too.
But there's not as many film

1077
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,400
nerds, so you don't see it as
much and so it doesn't bother

1078
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,920
people as much.
Is that fair?

1079
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,960
Yeah, I guess my my question
still is though, Brad, like as a

1080
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,160
guy who doesn't know the
references as much.

1081
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:44,880
Oh yeah, I don't care.
It doesn't bother.

1082
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,320
Me it doesn't bother you, OK.
No, not at all.

1083
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,000
You can tell they're making a
reference, but does it take you

1084
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:51,600
out?
Either take you out of the movie

1085
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,080
or like, make you roll your eyes
a little bit.

1086
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:58,360
No, I honestly it it brought me
into the movie more like like

1087
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:02,600
for me it's like, oh, they're
like, this isn't just a.

1088
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:08,240
Historical fiction, like they're
genuinely setting this movie in

1089
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:13,320
the world of 1940s Germany,
France.

1090
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,520
Like to, to me that that would
be something that they would

1091
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,320
talk about.
They would talk about the famous

1092
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,760
German director Pops.
And so, yeah, I, I, I totally

1093
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,440
was fine with it.
All right, man.

1094
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,960
Well, on that note, it is time
for our final segment of the

1095
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,200
day, which we call.
Let's make it a double.

1096
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,680
We're near the end of the
episodes of Things, listening to

1097
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,600
the film and Whiskey Show.
Let's have another film with

1098
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,000
this one, even if it's
struggling.

1099
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,360
It's the final segment of the
day.

1100
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,400
Now let's make it a double.
Let's Make It a Double is the

1101
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,680
part of the podcast where we
pair this movie up with another

1102
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,240
film to make the perfect double
feature.

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01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,280
Brad, why don't you go first
today?

1104
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:50,480
I'm still kind of thinking of
mine.

1105
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:56,800
Yeah, I I think that I am going
to pair.

1106
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,280
You're still thinking of it too.
Of course, I'm still thinking

1107
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,920
about I have AI have a movie
that I want to pair it with, but

1108
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,240
I feel like there's a better
option.

1109
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,480
Ah, man, all right, so I'm going
to pair this movie.

1110
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,040
I'm going to pair this.
Movie with JoJo Rabbit.

1111
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:21,400
I think that's fair, yeah.
I, I think, I think my other

1112
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:26,520
option was Taxi Driver.
I, I think that there's a place

1113
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,880
where, you know, everybody in
this film is asking themselves

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01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,440
who they are.
And I think that Taxi Driver is

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01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,920
about a man who's just
constantly trying to figure out

1116
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,400
who he is.
I, I think there's a thread

1117
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,360
there, but it's not a, it's not
a huge one.

1118
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,920
I think if you want to watch 2
like top notch films, probably

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01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,320
Taxi Driver, but I I think JoJo
Rabbit would make for a really

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01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:51,320
fun evening to to watch that and
then this it would make for a

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01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,400
really fun night.
I think the obvious one to watch

1122
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,560
what this would be The Dirty
Dozen, just because there's so

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01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:00,080
much influence on this movie.
But I think I like The Great

1124
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,760
Escape better.
And then there's enough of that

1125
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,440
sort of like breeziness to the
way that the GIS are portrayed

1126
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,120
that I think you could pair this
up with The Great Escape pretty

1127
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,240
well.
So like, if you want to spend 5

1128
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:15,400
1/2 hours watching World War 2
stuff, you could do a lot worse

1129
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,040
than watching Inglorious
Basterds and The Great Escape

1130
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,400
back-to-back.
I mean, you could go with Fury,

1131
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:25,880
another Brad Pitt film that was
totally, totally good and not

1132
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,120
bad at all.
I liked it, it was OK.

1133
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,000
I remember watching it and not
being very impressed.

1134
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,760
It is a slow movie.
Yeah.

1135
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:36,880
Yeah, you know, it's not a slow
movie.

1136
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,280
Inglorious Basterds and The
Great Escape.

1137
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:40,440
And that's why I picked it,
Brad.

1138
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:41,760
So there you go.
The Great Escape.

1139
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,440
Yeah, it's a good one.
I I like that.

1140
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,600
Let's give this movie some final
scores.

1141
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,600
I will not, I will not delay any
longer, Brad.

1142
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,440
I think I gave this a 6 1/2 back
in Season 1.

1143
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,080
You give it a six.
A So that was low.

1144
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,480
I was really waffling between an
8 1/2 and a nine this time

1145
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,520
around.
I do still think the ending lets

1146
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:04,400
me down quite a bit, but I think
it has the bones of almost a

1147
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,040
perfect movie in it.
And if you made a couple minor

1148
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,800
tweaks, especially what we
talked about with the the way

1149
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,800
the ending is laid out, I think
this could be a 10 out of 10.

1150
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,000
And because of that, I'm going
to land at a nine out of 10 on

1151
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,520
this movie.
Bob I walked away from this

1152
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,240
viewing.
I I think this was my fourth

1153
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,960
time watching it.
I think this is a perfect movie.

1154
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:29,880
I think that Tarantino knocked
it out of the park and every

1155
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:35,280
single element of the film just
Rav just it works together

1156
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,000
perfectly with the rest of the
film.

1157
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,480
So yeah, I'm a 10 out of 10,
Bob.

1158
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:43,280
I think this movie is incredible
and it it's it's one that's

1159
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,120
grown on me over the years.
So you'd still rank it below

1160
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,120
Pulp Fiction and Django, but
it's at a 10.

1161
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,240
I think so.
OK, I think all, I think all

1162
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:52,880
three of them are 10 out of 10
films.

1163
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,120
I like it man.
So we're coming out to a much

1164
01:03:55,120 --> 01:04:00,720
higher average on rewatch at a
9.5 out of 10, but we want to

1165
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,680
know what you think.
Is this more in line with what

1166
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,400
you think about Inglorious
Basterds?

1167
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:08,240
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1168
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,880
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1169
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,560
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1170
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,320
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1171
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:32,960
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