Hanksgiving, Vol. 3: A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood

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Hey, everybody.
Welcome into the film and

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whiskey podcast.
I'm Bob book, I'm Reggie, and

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we're coming at you today with
another special bonus episode.

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It's hanksgiving.
It's Thanksgiving, it's

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hanksgiving.
It sure is.

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And I love that you that you
used A Christmas, Carol fernet

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bad I guess there aren't any
Thanksgiving songs are there.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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As I said there's like three
Halloween songs and yet somehow

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people try to convince To
themselves that they can have

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like, a whole Halloween
playlist, there's no things

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going songs.
Although some of the Christmas

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songs I believe Jingle Bells, I
could be wrong there.

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That's like the deep in the
recesses of my mind is actually,

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was originally a Thanksgiving
song.

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So, interesting side.
I know that some Christmas

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carols.
Originally were like,

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Thanksgiving songs, but but now
there's not really any in the

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modern understanding of the
word.

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Well, in any case we are
celebrating Thanksgiving.

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So, first of all, filmin,
whiskey Nation.

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Happy Thanksgiving to you.
We're glad that you chose to

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join us today as we continue a
series that we started.

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I think this is the third year.
Now, Brad, we're on

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Thanksgiving.
We watch a Tom Hanks movie and

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we call it hanksgiving.
I'm freaking pumped.

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Hanksgiving was the best idea
we've ever had Brad easily.

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We're going to keep doing this
until we get Tom on the podcast

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for a Thanksgiving episode.
Oh my gosh.

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Did you ever there's a whole
podcast about that if you seen

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this Cast.
It's like oh it was a guy I

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can't remember what the podcast
was called but it was a guy that

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was like Tom Hanks rejected me
or something and it was all

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about like how he read for a
part or something and then

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didn't get the part and it like
screwed with his psyche for

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forever and it was like a joke
and he started it with just him

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and his friends and then it took
off and then eventually Tom

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Hanks came on the on the podcast
and that was like the last

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episode was like him.
Recounting this with Tom Hanks.

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All right, we're going to hit
the rebranding room immediately.

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Following this episode Bob
that's like we're only gearing

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this podcast towards Tom Hanks
movies?

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No yeah I'll if we're gonna go
after a Tom that I think I hate

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to say it.
I really want to get Tom Cruise

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podcast.
I never and I never knew the

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extent of your love for Tom
Cruise until lately like you

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have mentioned him on every
episode of this podcast for

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probably the last four months.
You know.

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I think that my fandom for him
has grown over the years.

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But as I've gotten older and
honestly, as we've done this

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podcast and watching more and
more films than more, I'm just

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like damn it.
If I don't love me some, Tom

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Cruise, we're not here to talk,
it's not Cruz giving, man, it's

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hanksgiving.
Should we should we do bonus

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episodes called Cruz miss
Christmas?

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Yes, that's alright.
We're coming at you next month

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on Christmas Eve cruise missile,
Eve.

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Tom Cruise - all right.
So Happy Thanksgiving,

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everybody.
We're in part 3 of hanksgiving

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and we decided to watch a very
recent movie in the Tom Hanks,

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Louvre.
I asked Brad what he wanted to

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do.
I think we were kicking around

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the idea of that thing you do
and Brad said, no, I want to

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watch a beautiful day in the
neighborhood, which is his 2019.

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Mr. Rogers biopic.
And I said, absolutely because,

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you know, I watched it in the
theater and I loved it.

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I watched it at least a couple
times at home with my wife and

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we both really like it.
It's Been probably a year year

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and a half since I've watched it
last and Brad, I remember liking

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this movie, but not totally
being on board with some of the

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more artistic flourishes of the
movie and thinking like, you

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know, it's probably like a 77
and a half out of ten.

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It was a good movie but not as
good certainly, as that Mister

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Rogers, documentary that came
out a couple years ago and I got

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us a man watching it back this
time, I'm growing to appreciate

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this movie more and more, the
more frequently I watch it.

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I think this is Really great
movie.

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I think it was slept on, I think
a lot of people evaluated it

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probably the way I did the first
time around, but it really holds

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up to repeat viewings.
And I'm a much bigger fan now

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than I was three years ago when
it came out Bob.

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I've drank just enough whiskey
and the whiskey were drinking

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tonight is wildly high-proof so
I've had enough of this whiskey

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to become pedantic and say that
you've ra-ra refers to the works

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of AR.
Artist painter composer or

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author but not that of an actor.
So I think you need to take it

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back.
Sure.

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The Tom Hanks catalog the Tom
Hanks filmography.

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Hey those are great words.
Bob the threat was a great.

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I appreciate the diction.
Thank you very much.

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Thank you.
We urge.

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All right.
So yeah yeah, talk about the

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movie man.
I remember watching this with

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some Hands that like Haley.
And I are really close to, and

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like, the scene when Tom just
makes him stop for.

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I'm pretty sure an actual.
Yeah.

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It's a full moon literal, 60
seconds.

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Which I love when movies are,
like, we only have 30 seconds to

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save the planet and then, like,
four minutes later in movie time

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that like they saved the planet.
But in this case, they actually

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take a literal Sixty seconds to
examine like, think about the

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people who have made us who we
are who loved us into becoming

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who we are and Tom Hanks just
looks directly into my soul.

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Yeah, and I look around and
everybody's just kind of like

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silently shoulders shaking
sobbing including myself and I'm

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just like oh this might be like
a top, ten like single Movie

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scene for me that I've ever
seen.

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I, one of the things I love
about this movie and Brad.

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If you don't mind, I think we
should just really just jump

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right into talking about the
movie and what we loved about it

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because these episodes are not
usually as long as the full film

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in whiskey episodes.
What whiskey are we going to

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drink today, Bob?
Okay, yeah, you teased it but we

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haven't talked about it.
All right, so these are from Two

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Souls Spirits, which is a new I
guess what they call themselves.

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Is a bottler.
Of craft whiskey so they select

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barrels.
They bottle it under their label

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and then they release it.
There's a few Brands doing this

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right now.
Two Souls is a new one based out

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of Gainesville Florida and their
first two products are a

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four-year bourbon that comes
from Watershed distillery in.

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Oh yeah, let's go and an
eight-year ride from Yahara Bay

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distillers, in Wisconsin and
Brad.

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This is going to be jogging your
memory here.

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But last season, we tried
whiskies from a producer called

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Good water.
And all of those came from

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Yahara Bay, I believe.
So we had uehara Bay whiskey

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before but this one's an
eight-year rye.

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As you said these are very high
proof whiskies.

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They're both Barrel proof.
The bourbon comes in at 120 3.0

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for proof and the Rye comes in
at 140 7.18 Proof.

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So this might be Brad.
I think our first they call this

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Hazmat when something is over
70%, I think this might actually

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be our first has Matt Whiskey on
the podcast.

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And if it's not the first, it's
maybe the second.

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Yeah, I was going to say, I've
only I think it has to be our

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first because I've only ever had
one, Hazmat designated whiskey

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before, and it actually was a
watershed whiskey.

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Oh, wow.
Okay, so yeah.

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So this is, I'm pretty sure our
first one on the podcast and

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having drink it already.
I will say it's a good whiskey.

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It is very has.
Matt Gregory has Matic.

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So let's get back into talking
about the movie though.

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Wanted to say that.
One of the things I love about

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this movie is the way that the
script brings in elements from

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Fred Rogers life that didn't
necessarily happen, you know, at

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this exact moment in Fred Rogers
life but things they needed to

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touch on and they weave them in
really beautifully.

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It's a really well-done biopic
and to be fair, it's not really

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a biopic of Fred Rogers, but,
you know, he is a character in

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it and it is a pretty accurate
depiction of what he was like.

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And so bringing in that famous
Moment where I think he was

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accepting a Lifetime Achievement
Award at the Emmys and he did

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this from the stage.
He stopped the whole, you know,

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Emmy telecast to make everybody
in the audience sit there and

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think about the people that
helped to get them to that

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moment.
And it is a really famous clip.

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I'm sure a lot of you have seen
it on YouTube and I think the

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choice to include that in the
movie is, it's a really bold

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choice and it's a really great
touch and they do a few of those

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throughout the movie, you know,
at one point somebody asked mr.

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Rogers weren't you like a
sniper?

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In the war and he debunks that
theory and you know, it's little

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things like that that we've all
heard about mr.

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Rogers.
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haven't seen the documentary or
haven't read more about his

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life.
They do a good job of weaving.

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Those in to answer those
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I think the question I need
answered most is one that my

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wife pointed out.
Do you think that mr.

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Rogers wore a speedo to swimmin.
Hmm, I'm a little concerned.

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That that was the question on
your wife's.

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Mind that.
That was the one question she

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and I both got out of this
movie.

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Yeah.
Where I was like, you know, old

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people do weird things, so, it
wouldn't surprise me.

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But that, yep, that was it, man.
That was the one question we had

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coming out of this film.
I'm not going to answer that

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because I don't want to think
about mr.

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Rogers wearing a speedo but you
will think about Tommy.

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Yeah I will.
I will see that in all its

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Glory.
Oh, man, I guess if we could

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start with just a few of the
things that I struggle with

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Matthew Rhys, I believe you
would pronounce his last name.

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Is he like a C+, Edward Norton.
So I mean I guess we can just

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get into this right away.
The first time I saw this movie,

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I was like he's really solid and
he's a very good actor.

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He was on a show on FX for a
number of years called The

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Americans, which is a really
highly regarded show won a ton

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of awards.
He was the lead actor on that

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and again, like the supporting
role is mr.

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Rogers.
And he's the charismatic one and

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it's Tom Hanks, so you've got
the mega wattage star in this

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movie and Matthew, Rhys has
there to be sad and Then to not

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be so sad.
And I watched it this time Brad.

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And I have to say, man, like,
Matthew Rhys has the best actor

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in this movie, and I don't know.
He's, he's a better actor

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overall than Tom Hanks.
His performance is outstanding,

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dude.
And and again, maybe it's

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because I've seen it three
times.

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Now, he plays every moment of
this movie Perfectly.

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I'm like, I could not believe
how good his performance was in

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this movie bread.
Alright?

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So maybe the reason I don't
Enjoy him as much as because of

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my second nitpick.
I just feel like he and Susan.

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Watson have literally the
smallest amount of chemistry if

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it exists at all of any romantic
pairing that I've seen in a

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movie.
And I just, I just feel like

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they have zero on screen
presents together where I can,

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like hardly believe that they
would ever be.

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Married in the first place,
that's so funny.

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Yeah.
I think again, maybe this is

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where we're going to come down
on different sides of this

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movie.
I think the movie does a really

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good job of placing you in the
middle of a marital conflict or

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a life conflict, like they have
just had a baby so they're super

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tired.
That's, you know, Brad you and I

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both know this like new baby
time is not the most romantic

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time in anyone's marriage.
Like you're doing what you can

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to find some equilibrium and I
think they play that really

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well.
I think he does a really great

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job of playing a guy who has
repressed emotions really,

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really well.
And and this this anger that

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bubbles to the surface, anytime
he's challenged on that and man,

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he calls himself a broken person
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And that's I mean that's in that
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referring to where they're in
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And Mister Rogers, tells him
that I don't think you're broke.

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And I think that you have a
really good gauge on what's

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right and wrong, and, Man, I
don't know.

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I think he does such a fantastic
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the most vulnerable spot.
He's ever been in his life and

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doesn't know how to Grapple with
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Just wowed me man that that is.
I don't know man, that's

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fascinating me.
I just walked away from this

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movie.
The first time I saw it and this

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time thinking to myself.
Wow that series was just okay.

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I think they could have done
better that Those are my little

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thoughts, it's not that he was
terrible.

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Like, I think he does a really
nice job of portraying the

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frustration that he has, but I
just feel like he has this dead

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look in his eyes throughout the
entire film.

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Even when he's like, starting to
get healthier that I'm like, oh,

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he just can't really Express
emotion.

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Well, as an actor, that more
than just letting his his

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character, but, you know, being
being hurt.

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Wow, well, Brad while I am I'm
thankful for you on this

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Thanksgiving.
I think I completely disagree,

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because even in that Chinese
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time in the whole movie, you see
him smile, and you see, you see

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the top row of his teeth and I
was like, oh, he, this man has

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teeth and it's such a genuine
moment of emotion, finally

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cracking through and and like
the sense of relief and a weight

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being lifted off of his
shoulders, you know, Brad I

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obviously I'm a sucker for
movies like this, where we're

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broken people find some sort of
therapy.

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And they would be for what Bob,
you know what?

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In further issues with their
dad, in true.

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You know, man, fashion men will
literally write a 10,000 word

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article in Esquire magazine
about mr.

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Rogers, instead of going to
therapy.

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Yeah.
And and that's what this man

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does to get over.
You know, his daddy issues and

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the movie obviously works for me
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But also I just think that it's
really smart to not Make a

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straight mr.
Rogers biopic.

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I actually don't think that
would be a good movie, mr.

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Rogers, it's weird to say this
mr.

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Rogers is a man with too few
demons to make a compelling film

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like with him as the main
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Do you know what I mean?
No, 100% And I think that having

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mr.
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fix it for the better is the way
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And I think this movie really
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Brad.
What do you say?

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We try this first whiskey and
then we'll come back and About

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Hanks himself and then we'll go
from there.

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What do you say?
Yeah, I love it, man.

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Let's do it.
Let's try this Watershed Ohio

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straight bourbon whiskey.
Like I said, aged 44 years, it

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is 123 proof.
I'm just now pouring it out into

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the glass.
So Brad, why don't you give us

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your notes on this?
Yeah, as I got into the nose on

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this guy, I felt like it was a
lot of brown sugar vanilla and

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then I don't know, man,
Watershed is one of the most

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unique.
Whiskey's in that.

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I think that I could pick a
watershed nose out of almost any

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lineup you would give me.
And I'm not always sure what it

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is.
It has its own Funk.

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If you will its own, will it
funk?

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Hmm, I think I'm gonna say it's
like Cream of Wheat.

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Yeah, for me, I think I'd said
this last time we tried will it

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like, an actual Willett product?
It's not actually that funky, I

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just remember it as being
Monkey.

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It's a dustiness that goes with
like rose petal.

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It's floral and dust at the same
time and like how is think

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about?
Did you ever read that book?

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Great Expectations.
When you were in high school or

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anything, we had to do that.
There's a, the Jane Austen book.

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It's Charles Dickens.
There's a character in that book

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called Miss havisham.
Who's this old lady who got

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abandoned on her wedding day, or
whatever and she, like lives, in

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this old mansion covered in
cobwebs and she wears her old

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wedding dress around and she
liked the inspiration for

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Eleanor Rigby proud.
Bubbly.

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And I just want to think about
Dusty floral arrangements.

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I'm like, oh, this is like,
probably what Miss Miss

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havisham's wedding, bouquet
smells like.

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So there's a guy what's really
dark brown?

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No, I'm just, like, I can't my
mind is thinking like, what

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would make a floral bouquet
Dusty and it's like, well, I

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guess Miss havisham would make
it Dusty.

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So for her sad, so with
Watershed, I think you're right

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there.
Their usual stuff like there.

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I don't know what you were.
They're standard product line

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that you buy Off.
The Shelf, has a certain nose to

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it but then I feel like they're
Barrel picks.

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Have a completely different nose
to them and obviously we've done

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a barrel pick with them.
So we've sampled straight from

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the barrel.
This reminds me a lot on the

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nose of the barrel that we
picked Brad and it has that sort

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of Dusty floral quality to it.
I really like it.

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And I'm going to give it a sip
now.

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So I'm preparing myself for the
120 plus proof here.

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Yeah, yeah, on the taste for me
it got a lot more.

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More decadent on the, on the
palate.

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It reminded me of like warmed
up.

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Caramel, topping.
Hmm.

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Do you know what I'm saying?
Like that?

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You would put on a Sunday with
peanuts.

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Yeah, like it's warm caramel
topping, it's incredibly viscous

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and then there's some brown
sugar and a little bit of cherry

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on it.
That I am really intrigued by

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this thing like was like warming
up on the runway of the nose and

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then Blasted off with with the
actual palette.

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It's not super complex.
I'll say that about it.

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It's funny that you mentioned
something being warmed up,

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because there is like a
difference in flavor when

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something is warm versus when
it's chilled.

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And this actually reminded me of
back in like the 50s and 60s,

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they try to encourage people to
drink dr.

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Pepper hot, like to put dr.
Pepper in a saucepan and warm it

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up and then drink it hot and
I've never tried that but this

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this reminds me of like if you
did that with Coca-Cola it.

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Doesn't have that sort of like
pop or fizziness to it, but it

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reminds me of like, if you were
to take Coke and kind of make it

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flat by heating it up and then
taking a sip of it, super

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simple.
So, you know, a little bit of

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caramel a little bit of that
Cola flavor.

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Underlying it, I like it a lot.
It doesn't drink like 120 proof,

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it drinks spicy but it's not
super harsh.

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The thing about all Watershed
products and and I guess I

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should say this is a two Souls
product.

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We're just we live right next to
Watershed.

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We're very familiar with their
products.

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So that's why referring it to to
it so much.

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The thing about Watershed
products is that anything they

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have over 120 proof drinks.
Like it's like, 108, like even

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their Hazmat one, and I think it
was like, 142 proof whiskey that

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I drank drank, like it was some
other companies 120 proof.

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If you like it was definitely on
the higher end of the spectrum.

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But not to the point where I was
like, wow, this is 15 points

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higher than anything I've ever
drank before.

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So I am always very impressed
with watersheds high-proof

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outputs and I think this is a
really good place to start.

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If you are two Souls because
it's a barrel pick from a

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regional, you know, distribution
distillers.

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So it's going to places that you
can't usually get Watershed

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right now and and like I said
it's not super complex but it's

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definitely a crowd pleaser.
I have no issues with this

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whiskey at all.
It drank really easily for 120.

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Something proof.
I think this would be a really

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good starting point for people
who are looking to get into the

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world of barrel proof, Single
Barrel whiskeys.

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I'm a big fan of this.
Yeah, honestly, I think I'd

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probably end it like, a 37 38
out of 50.

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Yeah, which is darn good.
Yeah, which is a really solid

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whiskey that I would recommend.
All right, Brad, let's talk

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about Tom Hanks on this
hanksgiving.

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I struggle with this
performance.

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It's a really good performance
and I feel like I have to

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qualify that statement a little
bit because there are moments in

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the movie where Tom Hanks is
doing a very good job at

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impersonating.
Mr. Rogers.

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There's moments in the movie,
which are the the down parts of

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this performance, where Tom
Hanks is doing a very bad job at

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impersonating, mr.
Rogers and then There's this

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third type of moment where Tom
Hanks isn't so much even trying

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to be mr.
Rogers anymore, as he is

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leveraging, his Tom Hanks.
Enos does that make sense?

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Like I feel like there are
moments where he stops trying to

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impersonate Fred Rogers and he
just fully leans into the fact

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that he's like I know that, you
know, that I'm Tom Hanks and I'm

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going to give you like the most
Earnest Tom Hanks version of

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this.
Yeah and it's almost like I

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don't know how to explain it.
It's like a meta thing where

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he's, he's not being mr.
Rogers anymore, he's being Tom

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Hanks being mr.
Rogers, and it still works real.

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It kind of reminds me of what I
was talking about with the the

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Jack Nicholson performance in A
Few Good Men, where I don't buy

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him as a member of the military.
But I buy him as Jack Nicholson

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and he's leading into like I'm
gonna be the hard ass because

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that's what Jack Nicholson does
and he does it really well.

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Yeah, I think for me, one of the
this might sound dumb, but one

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of the scenes that really stood
out to me is when Hanks was

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underneath the castle playing,
you know, Daniel Tiger and doing

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the puppeteering and he's like,
not even just not looking at the

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camera but like completely
focused on something else.

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And, you know, doing Daniel
Tiger's voice and all that.

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There was something about that
moment that I was Like.

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Oh, this is an incredible
performance where I just love

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the sincerity with which he
plays the character and even in

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a moment where it's not
glamorous, he's you know,

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hunched over your hunche to
underneath this set piece

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playing a tiger, you know,
puppeteering a tiger and and and

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yet his voice comes across with
such sincerity.

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I don't know if it's like the
voice.

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Acting effect that he has of,
you know, having played Woody,

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all these years and he just
knows how to work his voice.

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Even when the camera is not
focused on him.

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There is something about that
scene.

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That just really stuck with me
and was like, oh man, I just I

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really love what Tom is doing
with this character.

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I think there are moments where
he is, he's really got the

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Cadence of mr.
Roger's voice down, he never

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quite gets the accent down.
And I think the worst moments of

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this movie, Tom Hanks was
actually doing a Southern accent

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for some reason, and I'm like
mr.

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Rogers didn't talk like that,
but he does a very good job of

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nailing, the Cadence with which
mr.

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Rogers spoke.
And it was, especially apparent

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to me in that very opening scene
of the movie.

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So we'll talk a little bit about
how the movie structured, but

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it's almost kind of book Ended
as if it is an episode of mr.

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Rogers Neighborhood.
And so Tom Hanks comes in to the

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set singing the song and talking
about, you know, let's meet one

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of my friends in the
neighborhood That's how he

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frames the story here, but you
can almost tell that the

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director me real Heller.
Kind of let Tom Hanks, I mean I

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don't know if she'd let him
improvise there or not, but it

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feels improvised.
It feels like he's coming up

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with some of these things on the
spot which is very much, what

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Fred Rogers did like they had a
script obviously, but, you know,

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little things would happen on
set and he would just kind of

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talk about them as they
happened.

446
00:24:41,300 --> 00:24:44,100
And if he didn't tie his shoe,
the right way, he would take an

447
00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:46,600
extra beat during the song to
tie his shoe, correct way.

448
00:24:46,700 --> 00:24:48,200
Way.
And if the zipper on his sweater

449
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:53,900
wasn't working it, you know like
it was always fluid with mr.

450
00:24:53,900 --> 00:24:55,700
Rogers.
And he wanted it that way.

451
00:24:55,700 --> 00:24:58,000
He wanted it to not be a perfect
production.

452
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,400
And I think that that especially
that very first scene, I was

453
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,100
like, oh this director and this
actor, get what mr.

454
00:25:05,100 --> 00:25:07,900
Rogers was about.
Yes, and I love that it didn't

455
00:25:07,900 --> 00:25:14,100
feel like a perfect polished
take of that scene and that made

456
00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:16,100
it a perfect scene for me.
Yeah.

457
00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:19,000
And if it Been a perfect polish
take that I think Tom Hanks

458
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,400
would have lost about 30 pounds
for the role.

459
00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:24,700
Yeah, which would have been
really hard because I'm sure Tom

460
00:25:24,700 --> 00:25:27,700
Hanks was, I'm sure Tom Hanks is
taller than mr.

461
00:25:27,700 --> 00:25:31,600
Rogers was, but mr.
Rogers very famously kept his

462
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:36,400
weight at exactly 143 pounds for
his whole life because, you

463
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:41,800
know, the numbers 143 correspond
to the numbers of letters in the

464
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:42,900
phrase.
I love you.

465
00:25:42,900 --> 00:25:47,300
And so, he always kept his
weight at 143 and You know, Tom

466
00:25:47,300 --> 00:25:49,100
Hanks is never going to be 143
pounds.

467
00:25:49,100 --> 00:25:52,200
Even at his most fit, when he
was in Castaway.

468
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,000
I think he said he got down to,
like, 170 something.

469
00:25:55,300 --> 00:26:00,300
So like, you know, I don't blame
him for not being a Grimm as mr.

470
00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:04,300
And he certainly likes still not
pudgy like he's in pretty decent

471
00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:08,400
shape for a man in his mid 60s
but but you're right like there

472
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,100
are some physical differences
between him and mr.

473
00:26:11,100 --> 00:26:14,500
Rogers.
And I will say, as the movie

474
00:26:14,500 --> 00:26:18,000
ends and the credits are rolling
and they Start playing an actual

475
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,700
clip of Fred singing.
Hayley and I just looked at each

476
00:26:22,700 --> 00:26:25,400
other and we were like, Tom
Hanks is great.

477
00:26:26,700 --> 00:26:29,400
But nobody can do mr.
Rice.

478
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:37,800
Like, he is a unique talent for
being a terrible, good singer

479
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,800
that.
I just don't understand how he

480
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:47,300
did it but the way he lived his
life led to the point where

481
00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:51,500
everything he said, just made
you feel loved even if it's him

482
00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:58,700
singing in a mostly on Ki voice.
I just can't explain it.

483
00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:02,600
Bob how, how perfect he was at
being himself.

484
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,600
Well, and I think that that is
ultimately the downfall of Hanks

485
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,400
trying to do this, right?
And this is nothing.

486
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,400
I want to say this like, by all
accounts, Tom Hanks is the

487
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,200
nicest guy in Hollywood.
That's like his brand and he

488
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,600
seems like a really decent
person in real life.

489
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,100
But they go to Great pains in
this movie to talk about how

490
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:25,000
people refer to Fred Rogers, as
an actual st.

491
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,000
And His wife in the film Joanne
talks about how it's a practice

492
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,100
that he does.
Like it's like a spiritual

493
00:27:31,100 --> 00:27:34,100
practice, he's like a monk that
goes through these rituals to

494
00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:36,900
keep himself from from letting
his anger over take him or

495
00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:39,700
whatever.
And when you watch Fred Rogers,

496
00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:42,800
do an interview like a, you
know, a YouTube clip of an

497
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,900
interview or when you actually
watch mr.

498
00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:48,400
Rogers Neighborhood.
No matter how good of an actor

499
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,400
you are, there is like something
behind the eyes of mr.

500
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:56,200
Rogers.
Then that just emanates Truth.

501
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:01,200
Yes, sincerity sincerity.
And like yeah, reflecting a life

502
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,300
that is authentically that and
as good of an actor is Tom Hanks

503
00:28:05,300 --> 00:28:10,200
is he like you and I Brad are
not practicing this stuff to the

504
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,500
extent That Mister Rogers did
and it it shows through like

505
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,500
he's doing a really good
impression but even at even at

506
00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:22,300
his most authentically, Tom
Hanks e he's still not hitting

507
00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:24,700
Fred Rogers levels if that makes
sense.

508
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,700
Us.
And I think that should go to

509
00:28:27,700 --> 00:28:32,100
show how special Fred Rogers is.
Yeah, because I'm with you 100%.

510
00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:37,000
Tom Hanks is one of the greatest
living actors we have and not

511
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,900
only that, he is one of the
greatest human beings.

512
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,900
That is also an actor that we
currently have.

513
00:28:42,900 --> 00:28:48,000
Like, he's an incredible man but
even he couldn't quite capture

514
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,300
it and it.
But I will say, I think that's

515
00:28:50,300 --> 00:28:54,700
why the final scene of this
movie is really meaningful that

516
00:28:54,900 --> 00:28:59,100
You know, you have him finish
the episode of Mister Rogers

517
00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:02,100
Neighborhood and he kind of goes
off and he's saying goodbye to

518
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:06,600
everybody and he sits down he's
playing at the piano and he does

519
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,400
his, you know, what he said
earlier in the movie, he bangs

520
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,500
the, some of the bottom Keys,
real hard, because he's angry,

521
00:29:13,100 --> 00:29:16,600
and there's something about that
final scene, that, that it's not

522
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:22,000
Tom acting anymore.
It's just a human being

523
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,300
internalizing.
Some of His frustration and

524
00:29:26,300 --> 00:29:29,800
engaging.
In a, in a spiritual discipline

525
00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:33,900
of this is how I will express my
anger, I'm gonna pound the

526
00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:40,700
bottom keys of a keyboard.
And I think that that seen among

527
00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:43,600
a few others felt the most
authentic to me.

528
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,200
And really was, like, why I love
this movie.

529
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,200
All right, Brad what?
We'll come back from our second

530
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,700
whiskey.
And I want to talk a little bit

531
00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:53,800
about the direction of the
movie.

532
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,900
The Script do that.
The nitty-gritty stuff we get

533
00:29:55,900 --> 00:29:59,300
into before we give final
scores, but let's try this

534
00:29:59,300 --> 00:30:01,100
Hazmat Rye.
What do you say?

535
00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:07,500
Let's get to it.
Alright, so we are checking out,

536
00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:13,100
this Yahara Bay 147 proof rye
and I have to say Brad on the

537
00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:15,900
nose, it certainly doesn't smell
147 proof.

538
00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:20,000
I expected this, you know, to
have the Sex Panther by Odeon

539
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,500
effect on my nostrils and
stealing the nostrils, but it's

540
00:30:24,500 --> 00:30:27,200
not doing that.
And it reminds me a lot on the

541
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,000
nose of the barrel of MGP Rye,
that we picked from Western

542
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,100
Reserve.
Yeah.

543
00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:36,700
So this is very weird because
The Watershed smelled like the

544
00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:39,600
Watershed we picked, this smells
like the Rye we picked.

545
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,200
I have a feeling that the guys
at two Souls have very similar

546
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,700
pallets to you and me, I don't
know about similar but

547
00:30:46,900 --> 00:30:50,000
incredible.
Yes like spectacular palette.

548
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,200
I don't know if there's a good
as ours but they're pretty, darn

549
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:57,300
good.
Yeah, Bob I will say if you are

550
00:30:57,300 --> 00:31:01,800
ever drinking Hazmat quality
whiskey I would encourage you to

551
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,600
drink 123 proof whiskey right
before.

552
00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:07,100
Or it.
Hmm because I think if you tried

553
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:10,900
this without having drink, the
water shed product first, I

554
00:31:10,900 --> 00:31:14,400
think it would come across a
little stronger but, you know,

555
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,100
we're warmed up.
We're ready to go.

556
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,800
Whoo.
Yeah Dad.

557
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:20,900
I just drank it.
Okay.

558
00:31:20,900 --> 00:31:24,700
So whole I'm gonna try to walk
you through this real quick

559
00:31:24,700 --> 00:31:29,200
filming.
Whiskey Nation really sweet on

560
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,300
the first pass.
It goes down and it starts to

561
00:31:31,300 --> 00:31:33,900
get spicy on the back of your
palate and you're like okay and

562
00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:35,400
then it heats up.
A little bit more.

563
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,800
And you're like, oh yeah, this
is definitely Barrel proof, and

564
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,300
then it shot all the way back up
my tongue.

565
00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:43,700
Like a, like the fuse at the
beginning of a mission

566
00:31:43,700 --> 00:31:48,300
impossible movie and it hit it.
Landed on the tip of my tongue

567
00:31:48,300 --> 00:31:52,100
and then was just like, hey
would you like to be on an

568
00:31:52,100 --> 00:31:56,900
episode of hot ones?
Like it just like it is real

569
00:31:56,900 --> 00:31:59,900
spicy and there.
But the cool thing is like it

570
00:31:59,900 --> 00:32:04,400
pairs with the Rye spice.
So it in it has the pepperiness

571
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,000
of a awry.
But then also like straight

572
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:13,100
alcohol burn like this is
definitely 147 proof but it

573
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:16,000
manifested that alcohol
differently than I would have

574
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,300
thought.
Yeah for me the nose gave off

575
00:32:19,300 --> 00:32:26,900
not just Rai but like a freshly
baked loaf of rye bread like

576
00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:30,500
really really fresh rye bread
with a little bit of like

577
00:32:30,500 --> 00:32:36,400
cardamom and and if few other
baking spices, Isis and it

578
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,800
didn't lead me to believe that I
would get what I got on the

579
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,900
palate bro.
It is brown sugar.

580
00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:46,300
Sweet vanilla and I almost got
like a butterscotch pie.

581
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,700
So interesting like Justin is
that a thing is there

582
00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:51,900
butterscotch pie?
Bob.

583
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:56,300
All right.
Forget the rest of this episode.

584
00:32:56,700 --> 00:33:00,100
The next time I see you, I'm
going to bring you Haley's,

585
00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:02,300
butterscotch, pie.
Is this something that you eat

586
00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:05,300
at Thanksgiving?
It's freaking killer, honestly,

587
00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:08,400
it would be a good Thanksgiving
dessert.

588
00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:11,100
I don't know if it's like a
traditional Thanksgiving

589
00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:13,700
dessert.
All I'm saying is it's freaking

590
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:15,500
delicious.
Yeah, yeah.

591
00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:18,300
This is good, man.
This is incredible.

592
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,300
I like the, the Finish has a
little bit of, oh, can dry it

593
00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:24,000
with Mixed with that
butterscotch.

594
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,600
That just lingers for a really
long time.

595
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,800
Yeah, I think that's one of the
things I love about Barrel.

596
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:33,600
Proof whiskies is how long they
sit on your, on your palate.

597
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:38,000
And your flavor wheel for like,
30 minutes afterwards, like I

598
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,000
the last, I drink this.
This whiskey was like 30 minutes

599
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,400
ago and I can still like taste a
little bit of it on my palette

600
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,500
and I just man, I'm a really big
fan honestly dude.

601
00:33:49,500 --> 00:33:52,700
I think I would probably give
this one close to like a 40 to

602
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,100
Two out of 50.
Yeah, this is really good.

603
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,100
Both of these are fantastic
picks.

604
00:33:57,100 --> 00:34:00,500
And like if this is the kind of
level that two Souls is going to

605
00:34:00,500 --> 00:34:02,300
be operating on.
I think they're going to really

606
00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:04,500
make a name for themselves
quickly because like yeah,

607
00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:06,800
easily really really good pics
here.

608
00:34:07,700 --> 00:34:09,900
All right, Brad.
So we will say thank you now to

609
00:34:09,900 --> 00:34:12,500
two souls for both of these
samples because they're

610
00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:15,699
fantastic.
Let's talk Marielle Heller and

611
00:34:15,699 --> 00:34:19,600
the direction of this movie.
So Heller had just come off of a

612
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,600
movie, that was nominated for a
few, Oscars called.

613
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,800
Will you ever forgive me?
Which got an Oscar nomination

614
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,400
for Melissa McCarthy in the lead
role.

615
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,699
That was a really good movie and
she does like she likes to

616
00:34:29,699 --> 00:34:33,000
operate in.
I don't know how to explain this

617
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:39,100
like the way that this movie has
almost like a Grime Enos to it

618
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:42,900
or a dinginess to it in the New
York scenes like that's kind of

619
00:34:42,900 --> 00:34:45,300
what will you ever forgive me?
Looks like the whole movie.

620
00:34:45,300 --> 00:34:48,000
She likes to kind of get down
and dirty with her characters

621
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,600
and reflects that in the
visuals.

622
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:54,300
I really loved the way that she
uses The techniques of

623
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:57,500
filmmaking to get a lot of her
points across in this movie,

624
00:34:57,500 --> 00:34:59,700
especially with the look of the
film.

625
00:34:59,700 --> 00:35:02,500
And I really stuck out to me.
There's the scene where he's

626
00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:06,700
first on set watching the mr.
Rogers thing happening and it's

627
00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:08,200
what you're talking about.
So scene where he's filming

628
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,700
Daniel Tiger and Lloyd is
watching.

629
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,100
You know, from behind the scenes
as Fred Rogers performs and they

630
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:18,300
had this like brilliant shot,
looking at him watching Tom

631
00:35:18,300 --> 00:35:22,700
Hanks and in the background
everything is really warmly lit.

632
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,400
It like the whole studio has
this like homey, yellow E Light

633
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,800
to it, it just looks very
comfortable but where Lloyd is

634
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,300
standing is off to the side of
that.

635
00:35:33,300 --> 00:35:36,800
And he's standing in this like
almost sickly green, fluorescent

636
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,400
light.
And for the first third of the

637
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,200
movie first half of the movie,
almost, she does all these

638
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,500
incredible visual things that
just emphasize the point that,

639
00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:49,000
like he is not a part of the
neighborhood quote-unquote.

640
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,500
Like he has not embraced what
mr.

641
00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:54,300
Rogers is about.
He doesn't consider himself

642
00:35:54,300 --> 00:35:58,000
worthy of that because of all
this baggage, he's like actively

643
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,700
looking for ways to undermine it
or expose it.

644
00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:03,500
And there's another great shot
right before that where they

645
00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:06,600
where he's looking at the model
of the neighborhood that they

646
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,600
show at the beginning of the
each episode and he's looking

647
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,700
down on it like a judgmental.
God, like his face is just in

648
00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:17,400
the background of it.
And again, it's this way of of

649
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,500
conveying, he is not a part of
this.

650
00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:22,600
He's judging it.
He's looking for a way to ruin

651
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,500
it.
It if he can't because that's

652
00:36:23,500 --> 00:36:27,000
what he's coming here to do is
find some sort of flaw or crack.

653
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,300
And I just really loved the way
that they conveyed that visually

654
00:36:31,300 --> 00:36:33,800
in this movie.
And I think that is the greatest

655
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:39,700
strength of this movie is that
movies are always a product of

656
00:36:39,700 --> 00:36:43,800
their time and you can you know,
you can watch almost any film

657
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,700
and use it as a commentary on
the culture and you know, the

658
00:36:48,700 --> 00:36:52,800
decade that it came out of and I
think that this movie coming out

659
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,700
Out in was it was a two dozen 18
or 19.

660
00:36:55,900 --> 00:36:58,200
I think it was 19.
Yeah, so that, you know, this

661
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:03,300
movie comes out in 2019 and I
think that in a world of

662
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,400
massive, political upheaval and
questioning about what it means

663
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,800
to be a human being and a world
where there was a lot of

664
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,400
disbelief in traditional moral
figures, right?

665
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,700
Like Bob you and I, you know,
are a part of the Christian

666
00:37:19,700 --> 00:37:22,700
culture, there's been a lot of
really crappy.

667
00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:26,000
Be pastors out there who have
fallen from Grace if you will.

668
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:31,100
So like in a world of 2019 where
we're questioning all these

669
00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:34,900
things.
Any of us would approach a mr.

670
00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:37,600
Rogers type figure and be like.
Yeah.

671
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,800
There there's something dirty
here, there's something behind

672
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:47,500
the facade and this movie is is
making the claim like mr.

673
00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:52,000
Rogers life made the claim?
No, there there are some pure

674
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,800
people out.
There that have their flaws, and

675
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,800
they will admit to them, but
they engage in such a lifestyle

676
00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:04,800
that they are pure.
Even at, you know, even amongst

677
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,800
the fact that they're still
Sinners, if you will, they're

678
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,200
pure.
And there's so pure that they

679
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,900
can turn the mind of the deepest
cynic.

680
00:38:15,300 --> 00:38:18,800
And I think that's where this
movie really, really succeeds.

681
00:38:18,900 --> 00:38:22,400
Because even, I, somebody who
believes in mr.

682
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:27,200
Rogers, Rogers lifestyle as a
way of life for anyone to to

683
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,400
live into, even I would watch
some of mr.

684
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,000
Rogers stuff and be like, is he
really that good?

685
00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:38,500
No, I totally get it man.
And I think that again if

686
00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:41,200
there's a fundamental flaw with
this movie and it was the thing

687
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,500
I struggled with the first time
around, its kind of the Flights

688
00:38:44,500 --> 00:38:47,600
of Fancy that the movie takes
and having like the model

689
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,000
buildings and the model
airplanes and reflecting some of

690
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,400
the the more fanciful.
Of the Mister Rogers,

691
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,400
Neighborhood TV show.
And there's this extended dream

692
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,000
sequence in the middle of the
movie.

693
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,300
And if that was always the part
of the movie that I struggle

694
00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:05,800
with the most, I just, I don't,
I never liked dream, sequences

695
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,700
and movies anyway.
But this one was, especially

696
00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:12,200
jarring because it really pulled
me out of the movie.

697
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,600
And I think that this time
around, you know, I knew it was

698
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,400
coming.
But something had to be the

699
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,800
point where Lloyd's character
broke because he flies back back

700
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,600
to Pittsburgh at a really
crucial moment where his

701
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,700
estranged father has collapsed
and is in the hospital dying and

702
00:39:30,700 --> 00:39:33,100
he kind of like walks out on
everybody and leaves.

703
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,300
He gets to Pittsburgh and
collapses and has this like

704
00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:40,500
crazy fever dream.
And when he wakes up from that

705
00:39:40,500 --> 00:39:43,400
dream, he is like ready to be a
new person.

706
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,800
There's like something changed
about him, his demeanor is

707
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,600
different.
He starts accepting that he is a

708
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,900
broken person that he needs to
be made whole and so that, that

709
00:39:51,900 --> 00:39:54,000
dream.
It serves a really important

710
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,400
function in the movie and I
don't think you could cut it.

711
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,400
I don't think you could just go
from him, leaving New York and

712
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,600
going to Pittsburgh to him
waking up in that bed and being

713
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:07,200
a changed man.
But it's also like, if this was

714
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,800
the best way to convey that then
I think there might actually be

715
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,600
like a flaw with the movie
because it still doesn't work

716
00:40:13,700 --> 00:40:16,100
fully.
Even if I understand why it's

717
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:21,200
there.
But I will say you, you claim to

718
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,200
not like you know, dream
sequences in movies and yet we

719
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,900
just came off of a episode of
you, loving a movie.

720
00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:32,800
That is one giant dream
sequence.

721
00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:39,700
What's that Eternal Sunshine?
Oh yeah, the entire movie is a

722
00:40:39,700 --> 00:40:43,900
dream sequence, that's true.
I mean, that's the Saudis are.

723
00:40:43,900 --> 00:40:46,900
Yeah, either needs to be all of
the movie or none of the movie.

724
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,000
Yeah.
Can't you see?

725
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,400
Can't just be part of the movie.
You gotta go all in and okay?

726
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,200
Just want to be clear on your
feeling right about.

727
00:40:59,500 --> 00:41:00,700
I don't know.
What did you think of that that

728
00:41:00,700 --> 00:41:03,300
moment of the movie for me that
is like the weakest moment of

729
00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:06,100
the movie even if it's like a
necessary part.

730
00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:09,000
It's rough.
Yeah and and I think that it's

731
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,700
rough because I think as we're
talking about this, what I'm

732
00:41:13,700 --> 00:41:19,100
honing in on is I think that the
It can be the weakest part of

733
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:24,400
this film at times and it really
comes to bear in that dream

734
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:29,200
sequence where I don't know if
it's Reese's delivery or just

735
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:34,800
the lines themselves, they just
feel put on and like like

736
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,100
they're not a normal person
delivering them and I think

737
00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:41,000
that's the struggle.
I mean we haven't really talked

738
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,200
about Chris Cooper at all.
I think he does fine in this but

739
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,100
there's definitely moments where
I'm like, Chris Cooper is A

740
00:41:47,100 --> 00:41:52,000
great actor, but the lines that
they are giving him are just so

741
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:58,400
stale and stereotypical that.
I struggle to believe them.

742
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,400
Yeah.
For me, they worked.

743
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,800
I mean, II would say, 98% of
this movie works for me and even

744
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,500
like I said, even that dream
sequence.

745
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,300
It doesn't work great, but it's
a functionally necessary part of

746
00:42:11,300 --> 00:42:13,100
the script.
And so I kind of give it a pass.

747
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,000
I don't know.
Brad, I'm ready to give a final

748
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,900
score on this movie and I am way
higher.

749
00:42:17,100 --> 00:42:18,700
On this movie than I thought
that I would be.

750
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,600
I think this is a pretty
brilliantly structured movie.

751
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:28,100
Well acted really well directed
with a very smart script.

752
00:42:28,100 --> 00:42:29,700
I'm going to give this a nine
out of ten.

753
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,500
I really enjoyed this this time
around.

754
00:42:32,300 --> 00:42:35,300
I honestly, I feel like I've
spent this whole episode just

755
00:42:35,300 --> 00:42:40,200
kind of crapping on the movie,
which is, is not actually how I

756
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,200
feel about it.
I was gonna say, where's your

757
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,600
Thanksgiving Spirit, man?
Man, I don't know, I love this

758
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,400
movie.
Gee, I think it really

759
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:55,400
illustrates the power of living,
a disciplined life and how

760
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:02,300
someone, who lives a disciplined
life can learn to just love

761
00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:08,700
people into being that for Lloyd
Vogel at the end of his life.

762
00:43:08,700 --> 00:43:12,100
Or, you know, let's let's be
honest about it for Tom, junod,

763
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,900
at the end of his life if he
took 60 seconds to think about

764
00:43:15,900 --> 00:43:19,800
the people who have shaped Him,
I would imagine Fred Rogers

765
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,400
would be in the top three, and
it's because of the the

766
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:28,200
sincerity with which Fred
believed in his convictions.

767
00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:33,300
And man, I could only hope to
live such a life like that where

768
00:43:33,300 --> 00:43:40,400
I believe so deeply in the
beauty of humility and honesty,

769
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:46,600
and loving your neighbor as
yourself that man, I hope I

770
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,000
could have Affect people in the
way that Fred Rogers did.

771
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,000
So I I like the movie a lot.
I'll give it an eight and a half

772
00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:57,400
and I, yeah, man, I think that
Tom Hanks does a really, really

773
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,600
nice job of presenting the
sincerity of it.

774
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:05,700
Even if no one can ever actually
imitate it, if you've never read

775
00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:09,700
the essay that inspired this
movie by the writer, Tom junod,

776
00:44:09,700 --> 00:44:13,600
in Esquire.
It is one of the best pieces of

777
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,800
magazine profiles, I've ever
ever read.

778
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,700
Like it is, it's one of those
things like you read it and

779
00:44:19,700 --> 00:44:21,600
you're like, I'm gonna remember
reading that for the rest of my

780
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,900
life.
It is just an incredible piece

781
00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:26,000
of writing.
Do yourself a favor, you know,

782
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:31,400
before the the carb coma sets in
after Thanksgiving dinner, while

783
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,000
you're sitting around with, not
much to do, pull that up and

784
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,800
read that Esquire article
because it is incredible.

785
00:44:37,300 --> 00:44:39,800
I want to say once again.
Happy Thanksgiving filmin.

786
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,900
Whiskey Nation.
Happy Thanksgiving to you, Brad

787
00:44:41,900 --> 00:44:43,300
G.
Yeah man.

788
00:44:43,300 --> 00:44:46,200
It is so good to spend a little
bit of time with you here on

789
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,100
Thanksgiving.
I'm here on Thanksgiving.

790
00:44:48,300 --> 00:44:50,500
Hey Brad, I'm so we're recording
this a couple weeks before

791
00:44:50,500 --> 00:44:54,600
Thanksgiving.
My birthday is on Thanksgiving

792
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,600
this year.
So not only is it Thanksgiving?

793
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,400
It's my birthday right now.
That's right.

794
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,200
And you need a butterscotch pie.
I sure do man.

795
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,800
So I will be expecting that
delivery on my birthday /

796
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,200
Thanksgiving day so hopefully
filmin whiskey Nation.

797
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,100
As you listen to this Brad will
be on my doorstep bringing me

798
00:45:13,100 --> 00:45:16,800
pie so we'll be back on Monday
with another regular.

799
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,500
We scheduled episode but until
then I'm Bob book I'm Reggie and

800
00:45:21,500 --> 00:45:22,500
we'll see you next time.