Green Book (2018) / Heaven Hill Green Label Bourbon

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In 2018, director Peter Fairley
and star Viggo Mortensen gave

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the world a buddy dramedy that
may have won best picture but

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not the heart of its critics.
In 2023, we bid a fond farewell

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to one of our favorite budget
pores.

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The film is Green Book.
The whiskey is Heaven Hill Green

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label.
And we'll review them both.

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This is.
The Film and Whiskey podcast.

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Welcome to the Film and Whiskey
podcast, where each week we

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review a classic movie and a
glass of whiskey.

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I'm Bob Book.
I'm Brad Gee.

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And this week we are revisiting
our Season 1 review of Green

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Book Brad.
When we first threw this into

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the mix back in early 2019, this
movie had just won Best Picture,

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surprising a lot of people,
causing film Twitter to

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absolutely meltdown.
And we thought, let's get some

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of that sweet, sweet anger
clicks and and we did, you know,

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it was a great time.
It really put us on the map, you

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know?
Oh.

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Totally put us on the map, Bob.
I have complicated feelings

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about Green Book and I'm going
to be honest with you, Brad,

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most of these revisits that
we've done, I've gone back and

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listened to our original
episode.

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I did not do that today, mostly
because I didn't have time, but

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also because like enough time
has passed that any initial

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reactions have really worn off.
I think five years is a really

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good amount of time to start re
evaluating a movie anyway.

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Like you like all of the hype
around a movie has fallen off

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and you can really just see the
thing for what it is.

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So I'm I'm kind of excited to
just start fresh with a new

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review of this movie.
Yeah, I am too.

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This is one of those films that
I remember because it was so

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fresh.
And so, yeah, I mean, I don't

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know if it was like wildly
controversial.

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They're just some people who
didn't like that it won best

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picture, but it but it was so
fresh back then.

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And we, you know, we're still
new to the podcast, so it felt

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like a bigger deal to watch this
movie and review it then then it

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really was.
And now it's nice just to sit

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down and be like, hey, this is a
movie, there's people in it.

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Let's let's see what we think.
Do you remember anything from

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our original review?
Like is there, Do you know?

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Oh, I made a point about this
and I'm going to do that again

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today.
Or because I honestly, Brad,

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here's all I remember about that
day.

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Early on in the podcast journey.
What we did was we would record

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4 full episodes at a time.
So we would just take a whole

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day once a month and knock out a
bunch of episodes.

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And on this day, we met in the
living room of our friend,

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producer Eric.
I remember this because I had

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just gotten my wisdom teeth out
and.

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I do remember that.
And they were healing like the,

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the sockets were healing.
And we ate pizza for lunch.

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And I remember a Shard of pizza
crust just piercing through one

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of my, you know, absent teeth.
And I bled everywhere.

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And it was a horrible day.
That's all I remember.

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That those are very specific
things about the movie Green

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Book, Bob.
Who's going to say I don't

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remember the movie?
I just remember my teeth hurting

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really badly.
Yeah, well, I mean, do you want

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to say, like, go back in time
and pray for you that we can lay

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hands on you, anoint you with
oil?

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It'll be great.
It was one of the first times I

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remember being really grateful
for a drink of whiskey, though,

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because you know, you're not
allowed to drink alcohol for

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like at least a week after you
get them out.

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And so I had just hit the one
week mark and I was like, I will

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celebrate with whiskey.
And we sure did.

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All the whiskeys well and
honestly, this was a one of the

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best whiskeys of that day.
I would assume.

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I don't know what else we drank,
but but man Heaven Hill Green

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label.
All right, man, let's dive in.

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And I think the place to start
is where we always start, and

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that's where the little segment
that we call Brad explains.

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Brad's going to give us the
movie plots with only 60 seconds

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sticking on the clock, so let's
go ahead and do your take with

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this little segment that we
call, Brad explains.

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Brad Explains is the part of the
podcast where Brad breaks down

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the plot of the movie that he
has just seen.

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Now folks, we know this is not
Brad's first time seeing any

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movies this season, but I am
curious, have you watched this

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movie at all in the interim
between the first time we

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watched it and now Brad?
I'm.

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Going to give you one guess on
that, Bob.

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That was a betting man.
I would say absolutely not.

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Yeah, this is a movie that I
always was curious to return to.

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And so once you pitched the idea
of of, you know, re reviewing

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season 1 again, I was like, OK,
this will be the one more time

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that I ever watched Green Book.
There you go.

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And and now it's your turn to
give us a 62nd rundown of the

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movie.
I have to say, Brad, some movies

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you can watch the trailer too.
And it's not necessarily that

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the trailer gives the whole
movie away, but it's just that,

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you know that the movie is not
going to have much more to say

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beyond the trailer.
And I kind of feel like this is

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one of those movies, like, even
if you've never seen Green Book,

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you've got a good idea of what
Green Book is about.

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You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.

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Yep.
All right, well, so you've got

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one minute on the clock to
breakdown the plot of this

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movie, Brad and go.
Green Book is a film about Tony

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Vallalonga, a Italian driver
from New York who takes a

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pianist named Don Shirley on a
tour of the South.

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The primary complicating factor
of this film is the fact that

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it's set in the 1960s and Don
Shirley is a black man.

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Therefore, they must follow the
Green Book, which is a motorist

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guide for well, I don't know how
to say about the official title

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was The Negro's Motorists Green
Book.

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So it was for people of color to
travel in the South as safely as

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they possibly could.
They run into a lot of racism.

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They find ways to bond along the
way and uncover hidden truths

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about themselves.
And Linda Cardellini is

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incredible.
And the lesson that they learn

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is that the real Green Book was
inside of them all along, right?

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The end just just play us
outbound.

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That's that's the entire episode
you.

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Know what on that note, I don't
know when else we're going to

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get around to to saying this,
Brad, but I think this is a

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really poorly named a movie.
I like I think it's a great

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title.
It's a great title for a movie.

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But the green book itself plays
next to no part in this movie.

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Like it is barely touched upon.
And then there is a few scenes

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where you see Vigo kind of
thumbing through it a little

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bit.
And it's, you know, I understand

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that it's there is the metaphor.
But like, if you're going to

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call your movie Green Book, you
should at least dedicate a scene

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to really breaking down what the
Green Book is about.

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And they they don't do that.
I mean, was there more to the

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Green Book than what they
showed?

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Yeah, you're, I mean, you're
right, dude.

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I I think there's not that much
more that they could have talked

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about, but I think calling the
movie Green Book is I don't, I

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hate using the word problematic.
I don't want to talk about why

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this movie is problematic, but
like it kind of implies that the

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movie is going to really be
about the lived experience of

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the black characters in the
movie.

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And it's not like Don Shirley is
very much a supporting character

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and it's more of a story of
Viggo Mortensen learning to

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become not so much a racist
anymore.

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And I think that like they could
have come up with a title that

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better reflected that, I guess
is all I'm saying.

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All I can think about is like a
title like crazy stupid love but

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crazy, stupid racist.
Oh man, where do you want to

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start today?
Do you just want to dive right

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into the two big performances?
Do you want to talk about the

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film itself?
Like we're going to wade into

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some mildly hot waters here?
So where do you where do you

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want to start splashing about?
I mean, let's talk about the

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performances.
I I think that they are the only

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reason this movie has legs, so
we might as well spend the bulk

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of our time there.
Let's start with Mahershala Ali

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because I'm going to have more
complicated thoughts on Viggo

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Mortensen and I, I don't want it
to sound like I'm here to

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complain about this movie all
day.

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And if there was any surprise in
re watching this movie, Brad,

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and there weren't very many
surprises.

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It was exactly what I remembered
it being.

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But man, I don't know if I
remembered Mahershala Ali being

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quite this incredible.
It was.

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It was like revelatory how good
he was in this movie.

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Yeah, Mahershala Ali, from the
start of the film to the end,

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just has this energy about him
that completely fits, I think

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what Peter fairly was going for.
He, he just has this incredible

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aura of anger and he's brooding
and he's ready to lash out.

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And yet he has a kind
intelligence about him that's

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just endearing.
And I, I don't know how he does

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it, but he simultaneously is
somebody I never want to spend

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time with.
And yet I also want him to be

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like the Godfather to my my
children.

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He he plays wounded so well and
he never seems, I don't want to

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say he doesn't seem bitter.
He seems like internally bitter,

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but he's he's open to the world
and he's a person that feels

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like he's been rejected by the
world.

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And he gets his great big oscari
moments and I love that for him.

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But I think the most winning
parts of his performance are in

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the really small moments.
And it's especially in the

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scenes that, and we'll get into
talking about the scenes that we

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like and dislike the most, but,
you know, like the fried chicken

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eating scene, which has just red
flags all over it.

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If there's any reason that a
scene like that even remotely

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works, it's because of
Mahershala bringing humanity to

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that scene.
Like, you know, Vigo's doing

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what Vigo's supposed to do in
that scene.

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But there are moments in this
movie where the writing wants to

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make these two guys into cartoon
characters.

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And the only reason that it even
kind of works is because

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Mahershala plays it not just how
it's on the page, but plays it

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as a guy who has seen a lot of
the world and knows that even

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when these white people mean
well, like this is kind of

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offensive.
And so he he he plays into that,

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and I think it really lends a
sense of believability to even

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the most unbelievable scenes in
the movie.

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See, honestly, it's a scene like
that that I find completely

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believable.
Like just from the, just from

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the sense that this, the whole
movie.

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I, I think the, the reason it
works so well in a lot of places

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is because you can imagine this
all being true in the 60s.

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Like I can imagine an Italian
dude from the Bronx being as

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casually racist as Vigo is in
this movie, of course.

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And so I think it's, it's stuff
like that where I don't always

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know how, how to like deal with
this movie because in a certain

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sense, I feel like it's just
displaying things as they mostly

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were at, you know, and there are
some people in the 60s who were

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not racist and there were a lot
of people who were.

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And so I, I don't always know
how to judge like Vigo's

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character.
But when we're talking about

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Mahershala Ali, you are correct
in saying that, you know, in

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places like the the chicken
eating scene, he has just a

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little bit of childlike delight
as he eats these wings that

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makes you truly believe that
this is the first time he has

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ever eaten.
And there is there is something

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about Vigo in that moment as
well where, like, his

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earnestness belies the fact that
like, yeah, maybe he's being a

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little bit stereotypical and
racist in that stereotyping, but

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he's he is so sincere that he
doesn't even realize it.

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He just wants to share good food
with the guy he's driving.

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And so I, I, I don't know, man,
I don't know what to do with

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this movie.
Yeah, I don't either, man.

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It's really hard to talk about
because All right, Well, maybe

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maybe the key, the the gateway
into talking about it is talk

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about Vigo.
I have so many conflicting

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thoughts on Vigo Mortensen in
this movie.

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And I guess I'll start by saying
I think he deserved the Oscar

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nomination that he got for this
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And at the same time, I believe
that everything else I'm about

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to say about that performance is
also true.

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Do you know what I mean?
Like, without even knowing

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exactly what I'm going to say,
Brad, I think you know what I'm

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going to say, right?
A little bit, yeah.

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First of all, has there ever
been a more Scandinavian looking

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man than Viggo Mortensen?
Viggo Mortensen.

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I believe that he's half not
Brazilian.

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He is half South American.
Interesting.

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure his mother
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All right, well, he has very
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is what I want to say in In any
case, he has 0 resemblance to an

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Italian American, like 0.
And even like what in the scenes

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where the comedian Sebastian
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they're like, you know, loading
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to go on his trip.
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look nothing alike.
When they show Vigo eating like

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with his family at the table,
it's like this is just a Swedish

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guy that they dyed his hair
black.

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I don't understand how they
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And again, that's to say nothing
about what he ultimately does

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with the performance.
But like, it's just an

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interesting choice that they're
like, let's take the most

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Italian guy from New York City.
Who should we pick?

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And they're like, I know just
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See, here's the thing in in my
research for our episode, Bob, I

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found out that Vigo was Peter
Fairley's like absolute first

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pick, but that he sent the
scripts to Vigo basically

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without a hope that he would
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he really hasn't done a ton of
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Like, he's very picky about the
roles that he takes.

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And this one apparently
intrigued him and he like got

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on.
And so the real Tony Vallelongo

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was a character in The Sopranos.
And so he watched every single

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episode of The Sopranos and like
to, to get the, the feel of, you

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know, Italian culture in
general, but also for how, you

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know, Tony himself spoke.
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it on and really was excited for
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Like I said, I think he does a
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I think that the script does him
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that it's really hard to to
capture a guy who was a larger

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than life figure.
I think everybody has a person

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like this in their lives where
it's like if you're going to

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write a script about your kooky
uncle, right?

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A lot of these things in the
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said happened in real life, like
he would order an uncut pizza

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and just fold it in half and eat
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And they wanted to fit that
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I think the problem is that you
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between those things adding
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fleshing them out and those
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then just become a cartoon.
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committed and gives it his all
and I think comes out the other

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side having captured us as an
audience and and really

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empathizing with this character.
But I also am like, oh man, I

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wish I didn't have to watch Vigo
do some of the more embarrassing

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things in this movie.
See, I, I, I don't think I'm

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with you, man.
I like, I don't think there was

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ever a point in this movie where
I was like cringing at what Vigo

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was doing.
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I just found him to be
extraordinarily charming.

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He pulls off the unintelligent,
yet someone you just want to

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hang out with type of bro
perfectly well.

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So I, I don't know man, I I
think that you are picking one

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too many Nets here.
Yeah, it's just hard.

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I like I said, I think that he
deserved every ounce of the

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Oscar nomination.
It's a good performance.

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And, you know, if we can kind of
segue into the movie itself,

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this is a movie that got really
dumped on after having gotten a

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really positive reception.
So I think this movie has like a

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78 or something on Metacritic,
which is a good score.

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And then it starts winning over
especially some of the older

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members of the guilds in the
Academy, and it becomes a real

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awards contender.
And all of a sudden, you know,

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you could feel this groundswell
of critics just turning on it

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like, hey, this was a good
movie, but now we hate it

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because it's going to usurp our
preferred movies.

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And I have always struggled,
Brad, to parse out what

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criticisms of this movie were
really valid and what criticisms

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came because people got so sick
of seeing this movie win and

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felt it was an undeserving
winner that they then went back

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and said, no, it was actually
bad.

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You know what I mean?
Yeah, no, 100%.

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I mean, here we are recording
this episode and right now it

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has an 8.2 out of 10 on IMDb.
So like it.

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It's not like this is a poorly
reviewed film.

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No.
But you're, you're 100% right.

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It it feels like the the film
media in general just kind of

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dumped on this movie and
watching it a second time

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through, I don't think it
deserves all the dumping that it

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got.
Yeah, I think it really was the

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victim of, you know, this was
right in the middle of the the

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the first go round of like
hashtag Oscars, so white and

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some of the movies that it was
nominated up against this year,

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like Alfonso Cuaron's movie
Roma, you know, which is like

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this foreign language intimate
portrait of poverty and and

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coming of age.
And it goes up against Spike

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Lee's movie Black Klansmen.
I think that it ultimately

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became a lightning rod for we
think that the older Academy

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members are going to vote for
this feel good movie that

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doesn't tackle issues of race in
the same, I don't want to say

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confrontational way, but like
it's a feel good movie, right?

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Like it the character goes from
being pretty racist to not so

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racist and really wants to
understand the world.

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And you walk out of this movie
feeling like I feel great after

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I walk out of this movie, right.
But I think there is a a huge

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segment of people that are like.
It's easy to reward a movie like

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this where like racism gets
solved at the end of the movie

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versus these other two movies
that really deal with the hard

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issues of life more.
And I think that is a valid

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criticism when when you're
forcing a comparison.

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But like, in a vacuum, this is
not a bad movie.

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I think this is actually a
really well made movie.

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And one of the big surprises for
me was how well directed, how

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well edited, how well shot.
Like it's a great looking movie

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and it's a genuine crowd
pleaser.

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And I just think that ultimately
it became a victim of a crowd

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pleaser that got released in the
wrong year, you know what I

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mean?
Yeah, and the, The funny thing

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is, you know, you're talking
about the the Oscars 2 white

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type of thing.
And I, I look back at the actor

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and leading role supporting an
actress in those two.

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Three out of those four went to
people of color.

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Like you have Regina King, you
have Mahershala Ali, and you

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have our favorite performance of
all time, Rami Malik.

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Rami Malek, baby.
What a bohemian.

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Rhapsody.
Man, oh gosh, what a weird year

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this was now that I think back
on it.

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Yeah, like such a such a strange
year.

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I mean, honestly, the only one
that really made a lot of sense

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was like, you know, Cuarone
winning cinematography for Roma.

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I I think Regina King for
supporting character, supporting

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actress makes a lot of sense.
There's there's like a lot of

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things that do make sense.
But then you have Bohemian

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Rhapsody doing incredible and
you have Green Book winning Best

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Picture and.
You know what?

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What a weird year.
And now that you mention it too,

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I think that like the weird
symbiotic relationship between

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Bohemian Rhapsody in this movie
also caused more critics to turn

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on this because it was like,
Green Book was winning best

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picture across the board.
And so it was it was boring.

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And it wasn't like the, you
know, the socially conscious

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pick and Rami Malek was winning
across the board for a movie

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that objectively sucks.
Like, that movie sucks.

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And so I think that like, these
two movies became inextricably

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linked as movies, critics didn't
want to win their awards.

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And in in retrospect, I think
people dump on the quality of

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this movie.
When they shouldn't.

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When they really shouldn't.
It's a good movie.

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Yeah.
Oh, you know what else it was?

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Black Panther was for Best
Picture.

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Well, and then you had like you
just mentioned if Beale Street

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could talk lost out on a Best
Picture nomination.

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And that was my favorite movie
of this year.

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I know that we've we've parsed
out our thoughts on that movie

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before.
But so you've got all of these

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things converging at the same
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And I really think that, like in
another year, does this win best

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picture?
Who knows?

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I think it would have been seen
as a more innocuous entry than

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it was this year.
Yeah, because like you said,

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Bob, I I think this is an
incredibly well made movie.

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Like I, I think the lighting is
really beautiful throughout.

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The way that they, they show the
different sides of the

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underbelly of the South.
I think that they use lighting

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incredibly well.
I think that his cinematography,

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the car scenes are, are really
incredibly well done.

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So yeah, I, I just, man, I had a
blast watching this movie again.

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There, I'll say it.
I will too.

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Well, I won't say I have a
blast.

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I think this movie drags a
little bit.

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Like I noticed the runtime more
than I ever have.

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This is my fourth time watching
this movie now and it was the

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first time that I was like
actively checking my phone at

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certain parts.
And part of that is because I'm

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familiar with it now.
But I do think I think it runs

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about two hours and 10, two
hours 15.

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It could have been like an hour
55, if we're being honest.

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There's there are a couple
scenes that just get repetitive

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and like there's only so many
fish out of water.

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These two guys are an odd couple
that you really need to

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establish that.
And I think that, like, I don't

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know if it's the fried chicken
scene or if there's another one

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after it, but I remember
thinking this time that they had

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done a really good job of the
fish out of water odd couple

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scenes.
And then they had started to get

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to know each other better.
And then they're like, let's do

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another one of those scenes
'cause we need Comic Relief now.

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And I remember thinking like,
you probably could have cut that

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one.
There's only so many times that

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I can see Don Shirley yell at
Tony Lip about not paying for a

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rock.
Then it's like, all right, like,

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do we need to have another lucky
rock scene?

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Yeah, I I am with you.
There are moments that this

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movie drags.
I think that for me, it was

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probably like 60% of the way
through when you're, you're kind

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of in the slog of the South,
which, you know, maybe, maybe he

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kind of meant for it to feel
like a slog, But it, it just

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felt like a few scenes dragged
on a little bit too long.

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And and we're, we're delaying
the inevitable, like let's get

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back for Christmas and have a
nice Christmas scene.

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Listen man, I will freely admit
it does not matter if 98% of

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your movie takes place in the
dog days of August.

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If you end your movie with a
scene where a character realizes

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the true meaning of Christmas, I
am on board.

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I don't even care.
Like, I tear up at the end of

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this movie just because of the
way Linda Cardellini says Merry

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Christmas to people.
You know what I mean?

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Yep, 100% dude.
So I guess at the end of the

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day, this is just a really
beautiful Christmas.

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It is man, peace on earth,
goodwill towards men, and let's

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eat fried chicken, right?
And let's drink some Heaven Hill

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Green label, am I right?
I think this is a good place,

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Brad.
Let's press pause here.

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Let's drink this discontinued
fan favorite bourbon.

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What do you say?
Let's get to it.

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All right, so today we are
checking out Heaven Hill Green

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Label.
Now, that is not the official

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name of this product.
It's just called Heaven Hill Old

444
00:26:23,290 --> 00:26:26,530
Style Bourbon, but it has a big
old green label on it.

445
00:26:26,530 --> 00:26:29,610
Brad.
It is an age stated bourbon, six

446
00:26:29,610 --> 00:26:31,570
years old.
And at the time I bought it, I

447
00:26:31,570 --> 00:26:35,690
think it was up to like 1799.
But for a long, long time, it

448
00:26:35,690 --> 00:26:38,170
was known for being like a $10
bottle of whiskey.

449
00:26:38,490 --> 00:26:42,560
And it was, among bourbon
drinkers, one of the biggest

450
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:48,760
crowd pleasers and like an
inside secret that you could get

451
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,920
this bargain bourbon and it was
just as good as top shelf stuff.

452
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,640
And we'll get into what happened
to it, but I have very fond

453
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:02,000
memories of drinking this bread.
Yeah, honestly, you brought

454
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:08,320
back, I think 3 bottles for me,
one to keep for myself, 2 to

455
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,720
give to friends.
And if I'm being honest, Bob, I

456
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,120
was not able to give one of
those bottles away.

457
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:20,920
So I cracked it open for this
review, not having realized that

458
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,600
it was discontinued.
So I'm I'm sitting here like,

459
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,480
man, I just cracked open a
bottle that is coveted

460
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,000
worldwide.
Can I ease your conscience a bit

461
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,720
about not giving those bottles
to friends?

462
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,600
I I'm down to my last bottle.
It's been sitting on my shelf

463
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,480
for probably 2 years now.
I am well under halfway on that

464
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,920
bottle and I had to give you
some for this review not knowing

465
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,000
you had another bottle on hand.
So I would like to humbly

466
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,800
request give me my sample back
so that I can stretch this just

467
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,760
a little bit more because like
we said, Heaven Hill has

468
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,840
discontinued this product.
A few years ago, they released a

469
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,800
Heaven Hill bottled and bond
that carries A7 year age

470
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,200
statement.
So they're basically taking this

471
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,280
stock and a couple other things
and they were making this new

472
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,840
product with it.
It it came out at the height of

473
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,760
this bourbon boom that we've
been going through.

474
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,960
And it's $40.
And I am told that it is not

475
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,720
really any better than the $15
Heaven Hill Green label.

476
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,840
And I'm just super bummed that
this is not a thing anymore.

477
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,240
Man, This was just like old
reliable for me.

478
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,520
And I hate corporate greed.
Yep, it sucks.

479
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,560
All right, let's review the.
Whiskey.

480
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,800
That's all.
That's all I have to say.

481
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,400
All right, this is a 90 proof
whiskey, like I said, six years

482
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,040
old.
It uses Heaven Hill's standard

483
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:43,240
mash bill, which is 78% corn,
10% rye, 12% malted barley.

484
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,360
So no wheat in this bad boy, but
there's quite a bit of rye.

485
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,280
Brad, let's dive in.
What are you picking up on the

486
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,720
nose?
The nose is beautiful, Bob.

487
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,600
It's candy corn.
It's cornbread.

488
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,960
There's some caramel, there's
oatmeal cookie, and then a

489
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,880
little bit, once you sit with it
for a while, you get into that.

490
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,200
Those rye baking spices kind of
start to come through.

491
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,800
But for the most part, it's a
really nice, like fresh grain

492
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:15,720
sweet mess of awesomeness.
I am kind of regretting not

493
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,200
being there with you right now
for this fresh popped bottle

494
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,720
because I think mine has
oxidized a little bit.

495
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,240
I think mine just kind of, you
know, it, it's been sitting open

496
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,760
for so long and there's so
little left in the bottle that I

497
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,800
just think it's kind of dulled
at this point.

498
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,040
I'm getting just a lot of oak, a
lot of sawdust.

499
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,800
And then you had a really nice
note that I, I love, which was

500
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,880
oatmeal cookie.
I'm getting a little bit of

501
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,280
that, but I think it's mostly
because it reminds me of oats so

502
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,920
much.
It's not grainy, but it's like

503
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,040
grain forward, if that makes
sense.

504
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,600
And I wish that there was a
little bit more of that brown

505
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:55,400
sugar and caramel on my sample,
knowing what it used to smell

506
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,920
like when this bottle was fresh.
I'm going to grate a little bit

507
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,920
on a curve.
I'm going to give this a 7 out

508
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,120
of 10 on the nose.
Yeah, I give it an 8 out of 10

509
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,960
on the nose.
The palate for me turned a

510
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,920
little more sweet.
The there was caramel and

511
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,760
vanilla coming through really
strong.

512
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,680
There was some some fresh,
almost like a like a corn on the

513
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:23,160
cob with some butter on it mixed
with all the that rye that you

514
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,800
were talking about.
So that there's a really nice

515
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,680
balance of flavors here that I
gave it a 7 1/2 out of 10 on the

516
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,480
palate.
Your notes are so on point today

517
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,440
man.
Cornbread with salted butter is

518
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,400
like a perfect description for
this, except that it's just a

519
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:43,680
little bit a little bit more
potent rye behind that.

520
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,440
Like it's not sour, but there's
a little bit of smoke, a little

521
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,160
bit of bitterness to this as
well to go with this really

522
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,640
buttery mouthfeel.
I like this a lot.

523
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,680
Damn, I really want to come down
to Delaware and try this like

524
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,360
fresh bottle.
Like usually, you know, it's not

525
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,160
like wine where it whiskey goes
bad, but there is some science

526
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,680
behind the idea of like,
especially if you've drank more

527
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,400
than half the bottle.
The earth takes its toll on your

528
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,240
open bottle of whiskey after a
while.

529
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,160
And I would like to know what a
fresh one tastes like.

530
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,200
I'm vamping.
I'm going to give it a 7 1/2 on

531
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,880
the taste.
Yeah, the finish here, there's

532
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,720
baking spices, there's oak, the
vanilla sticks around, and the

533
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,760
oatmeal cookie goes from being
like a sweet fresh baked cookie

534
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,240
into tasting more like a regular
nice bowl of oatmeal with a

535
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,520
little bit of brown sugar on it.
I like to finish a lot.

536
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,720
It comes up a little bit from
the the palate and I gave it an

537
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,680
8 out of 10.
Yeah, For me, I think honestly,

538
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,280
the note that really hangs on
the longest here is there's a

539
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,040
little bit of Coca-Cola for me
on the finish, but it's salted

540
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,520
butter.
Like there is just a little bit

541
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,280
of saline to this that I wasn't
expecting.

542
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,880
And the buttery mouth feel and
that taste of saline really

543
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,680
leads me to I, I really do think
about like putting some butter

544
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,680
on a piece of cornbread or like
a corn muffin.

545
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,520
Really, really good.
I like the finish a lot.

546
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,760
It's long lasting for being a 90
proof $15 whiskey.

547
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,080
I'm going to give it an 8.5 on
the finish.

548
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,600
Yeah, and the for the balance
here, I think that there's just

549
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,560
enough complexity here to keep
the score somewhat high.

550
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,800
But honestly, Bob, this is just
a really nice simple bourbon

551
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,720
that checks all the boxes you
wanted to check.

552
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,360
So I gave it a 7 1/2 out of 10
on the balance.

553
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:33,720
Yeah, I think I'm going to give
it an 8.

554
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,440
Like you said, it's it's not
really, I don't know how to talk

555
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,200
about this whiskey.
It's not really anything to

556
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:44,280
write home about, but it is just
consistent across the board.

557
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,600
It's really good.
It's good enough that you could

558
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,160
drink it neat, you could put it
on a Rock, You could put it in

559
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,160
an Old Fashioned, and it stands
up really, really well.

560
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,200
I prefer this flavor profile to
something that's more oak heavy,

561
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,840
like a Buffalo Trace.
And I think that that's part of

562
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,320
why I gravitated towards this so
early on in my bourbon drinking

563
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,000
journey.
So yeah, I'm coming out to an 8

564
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,160
on the balance value is going to
be an interesting one because

565
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,560
you can't really buy it anymore.
I mean, I'm sure you can buy it

566
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,240
online.
Brad, what are you seeing price

567
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,880
wise for this?
Yeah, Bob, unfortunately you

568
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,120
really can't find this online
anymore.

569
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:27,840
I I I tried to search for it and
only one place came up for $175.

570
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,720
Welp, I don't really know how to
score this man.

571
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,080
It is like a 0 out of 10 for
$175.

572
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,160
I would not recommend even
looking at this for $175.

573
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:45,960
I'm just going to score this as
if it's 2017 and you can still

574
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:51,760
get it for like 14-15 dollars.
At that price this whiskey was a

575
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,400
10 out of 10.
Like easily the best value in

576
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,560
whiskey it it's even better than
Rebel 100 Bob.

577
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,360
Let's just say for the sake of
argument that what we're scoring

578
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,800
this on is a pour of whiskey at
A at a whiskey bar.

579
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:13,000
Now they're probably charging.
I don't know, 15 bucks a pour

580
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,320
for this now.
So you like you, you'd be paying

581
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,360
as much for a pour of this as
you used to for a bottle.

582
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:24,400
With that in mind, I think I'm
going to give it a six out of 10

583
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,960
on value.
Is that fair, Brad?

584
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,480
Yeah, I would say that that's
fair.

585
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:34,520
I I think that this is just an
unfortunate reality of the

586
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,480
whiskey world, that there's a
lot of great whiskeys that just

587
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,320
kind of get snapped up or, or
they change hands and the recipe

588
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,159
changes.
What?

589
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:46,600
What's that one?
It's a blue label bottle and

590
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,120
bottle.
Early times bottled.

591
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,760
And yeah, didn't they change,
you know, change hands at some

592
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,040
point?
So we don't know if it's any

593
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,679
good anymore.
Yeah, exactly.

594
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,320
Like, like it's stuff like that
that makes the whiskey industry

595
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,080
kind of hard to follow at times.
I mean, luckily there there is

596
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,800
such a plethora of whiskey right
now that you can find tons of

597
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,720
great whiskey for 20 to $30.00.
But let just let us have this

598
00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:13,320
one, guys.
We're sad, all right?

599
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,600
Brad, I'm coming out to a 37 out
of 50 on this one.

600
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,360
Where are you at?
Well, if, if I give it my 10 out

601
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,120
of 10 for $15.00 value, I would
be at a 41.

602
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,160
Let's let's come down a little
bit.

603
00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:30,560
I'll, I'll give it an 8 out of
10 on value.

604
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,960
So I'll come out to a 39 out of
50.

605
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:38,320
That puts us on average at a 38
out of 50 or 76 out of 100.

606
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,680
I think that's a good spot for
this.

607
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,000
It's an above.
It's a well above average

608
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,760
whiskey whose selling point was
its value.

609
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,720
Like you can't get a six year
age stated anything anymore for

610
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:54,040
15 or $20.
And it just sucks because I

611
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,840
think, am I overstating how good
the whiskey is?

612
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,280
Probably.
But I am mourning a time gone by

613
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,360
when American whiskey was in
such little demand that you

614
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,280
could get really good whiskey
for 15 bucks.

615
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,560
Yeah, I, I mean, dude, I still
think about when we were, we

616
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:19,960
were back in grad school, 2016,
2017 and we're living in

617
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,280
Kentucky and you can get a
bottle of Eagle Rare for like 28

618
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,280
bucks.
You can get this for 1415 bucks

619
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,080
there.
There was just so, so much

620
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,280
whiskey available to you that
hadn't gotten snatched up yet in

621
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,080
the in the midst of the bourbon
craze.

622
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,200
Think about like, we were so
poor back then too.

623
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,040
And, and film and Whiskey
Nation.

624
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,280
I have been poor most of my
life.

625
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,600
I have never known poor like
grad student poor because I

626
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,600
didn't qualify for any
assistance because I was a

627
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,560
student.
And Brad, you and I scraped

628
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,400
together enough money to split a
bottle of Eagle Rear.

629
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,160
And when I say that in 2023,
it's because people assume that

630
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,920
I'm we're buying it secondary
and it's like $100 now.

631
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,480
No, it was like less than 30
bucks.

632
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,480
Yep.
We would not be able, we would

633
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,880
not have been able to start
being bourbon drinkers in this

634
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,040
climate.
No, you know what I mean?

635
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,600
But that's how bad things have
gotten.

636
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,480
Yeah, I, I remember going over
to a friend's house and this is

637
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,600
before you and I really even
started drinking.

638
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,600
And he was like, yeah, you know,
my wife got me a bottle of Pappy

639
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,600
Van Winkle for my birthday and,
and she splurged for it and, and

640
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,960
I, and, you know, I don't even
remember how much she paid, but

641
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:36,320
it was like a few 100 bucks.
It wasn't $3000, Right, Right.

642
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,840
So like, the fact that you could
still do stuff like that back

643
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:46,120
then is ridiculous and and sad.
Folks.

644
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,400
That's just a sad, I was going
to say.

645
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,120
We're going to put make that
like our our slogan film and

646
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:54,960
whiskey ridiculous and sad TM.
Brad, let's get back into

647
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,440
talking about Green Book.
What do you say?

648
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:03,560
Let's get to it.
All right, folks, that was

649
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,360
Heaven Hill Green Label, a
whiskey that we paired up with

650
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,600
Green Book back in season 1
because of the green theme.

651
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,640
I obviously should have paired
it with Cutty Sark because that

652
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,680
is a whiskey that is consumed in
the movie.

653
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,400
But to make up for that, Brad,
we drank it in as sad of a

654
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,040
fashion as Mahershala Ali drinks
his Cutty Sark.

655
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,440
So.
Bro, we didn't even talk about

656
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,000
that when we talked about
Mahershala.

657
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,520
He is an incredible sad drinker.
Sad drinker?

658
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:38,480
Yes, Just like every bit of
bitterness about his life comes

659
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,840
out when he reaches down into
his bucket of ice that holds his

660
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,760
bottle of Cuddy Sark.
My man drank 1/5 of Cuddy every

661
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,440
night that is.
The fact that he lived so long

662
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,800
is staggering.
Ridiculous.

663
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,320
Yeah, yeah, just like him after
his bottle every night.

664
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,680
All right, Brad, it's time for
us to get into Canada's favorite

665
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,520
segment, which we call 2 Facts
and a falsehood.

666
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:10,360
Brad is going to try to stump
your ball to our right and what

667
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,440
is wrong?
2 facts and a falsehood.

668
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,600
That's right, 2 facts and a
falsehood.

669
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,120
The part of the show where I try
to prove Bob wrong, which is

670
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,800
very easy at certain times.
Bob, I don't know what's your,

671
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:27,040
what's your record is this year?
I'm not keeping track this

672
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,600
season, Brad.
I am.

673
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:32,600
I'm just going with God and
believing that I will come out

674
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,440
on top.
The Lord is my strong right

675
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,360
hand.
All right, Bob.

676
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,840
Well, getting into two facts and
a falsehood fact number one,

677
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:48,360
this film is dedicated to Larry
the crow, a bird that hung

678
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,960
around the shooting location.
Vigo often cared for the animal

679
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:59,640
after it had been hit by a car
that's.

680
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:05,840
Great.
Fact #2 This was only one of

681
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,880
five films to win the Academy
Award for Best Picture without

682
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,000
being nominated for Best
Director.

683
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,640
The other films are Argo,
Driving Miss Daisy, Grand Hotel,

684
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:21,320
and Wings.
Fact #3 Fairly attempted to use

685
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,200
a variety of lighting techniques
to highlight the difference in

686
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,760
the world's between Mortensen
and Ollie's characters, using

687
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,960
more bounce lighting for Ollie
and high key lighting for

688
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,560
Mortensen.
You know, I, it, it strikes me

689
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,840
that we should probably explain
what 2 facts and a falsehood is.

690
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,000
Like we, we said, you want to
stump me?

691
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,320
But folks, I think you can
figure it out.

692
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,680
It's Brad making up a fact
within these three and I have to

693
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,000
figure out which one's the lie.
And you did a darn good job

694
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,000
today, man, because I think all
three of these sound like they

695
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,840
could be true facts about this
movie.

696
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,120
You like the Larry the Crow
fact?

697
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:06,880
I'm going to say 3 is true #2
what was #2 again?

698
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,320
One of only 5 films to win the
Academy Award for Best Picture

699
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,520
without being nominated for Best
Director.

700
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:16,120
I think that's true.
I mean, I know that he wasn't

701
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,800
nominated, so unless you're like
really finessing it and there

702
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,160
was actually like 6 movies, I'm
trusting that you didn't do

703
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:28,120
something that NIT picky.
I guess number one's the

704
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,520
falsehood.
I don't like I want #1 to be

705
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:35,160
true, but who knows?
I'm going to say #1's false.

706
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:41,360
Bob, my absolute favorite 2
facts in the falsehoods are when

707
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:46,440
I finish delivering the three
facts and you immediately go, oh

708
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:52,440
the falsehood is obviously true.
Fact #3 is the falsehood.

709
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:53,840
Bob.
Interesting.

710
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,640
No, I didn't think it was
obviously true.

711
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,560
It's that I didn't know that you
knew that much about lighting.

712
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,440
And when you said the word
bounce lighting, I was like, oh,

713
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:09,200
yeah, that's that's not Brad.
Listen, no offense to you, but

714
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,160
yeah, yeah, you know more about
lighting than I figured you did.

715
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:17,800
I underestimated you, man.
If you know that much about

716
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,880
lighting, you need to start
taking better pictures for our

717
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,320
Instagram.
What the hell are you doing,

718
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,920
man?
Sorry, I'll go buy better

719
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,040
lighting setups.
Hey, nicely done, you got me.

720
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,400
Thanks dude.
Yeah, that was a good one.

721
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,560
All right, so wait, Larry the
Crow or whatever the hell is, is

722
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,320
a true.
It's a true that is who the film

723
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,080
is dedicated to.
What the hell is this movie

724
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,360
Brad?
What a weird they dedicated it

725
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,120
to a dead bird who got hit by a
car.

726
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,280
I don't know if the birds dead
or not, it just said that the

727
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,240
bird hung around the shooting
location.

728
00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:54,200
Why would you dedicate it to an
alive bird I don't like?

729
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,240
Also, why did the bird not get
put in the in memoriam at the

730
00:42:59,240 --> 00:43:00,840
Oscars that year?
That's what we really should

731
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:01,080
have.
Had.

732
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,880
That's the real.
Question, Bob.

733
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,880
All right, man, what do we have
left to say about this movie?

734
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:13,240
I, I will reiterate, I think
Peter Farrelly got an unfair

735
00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:17,040
amount of criticism when this
movie took off at the award

736
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,280
ceremonies.
Now, he did not get nominated

737
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,480
for best director and like,
that's fine.

738
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,120
Whatever.
I think this is an exceptionally

739
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,240
well directed movie and the
things that people complain

740
00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:29,800
about, I think really all come
back to the script.

741
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,320
But when it comes to what's on
screen, how it's depicted, you

742
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,120
know, what is on screen versus
off the lighting, the the way

743
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,480
the movie shot, it's a really,
really well made movie.

744
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,280
And I think Peter fairly
deserves, you know, if not an

745
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,400
apology from people, I think he
deserves to be taken a little

746
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,840
more seriously.
And like his pedigree as a

747
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,160
director is, you know, he and
his brother made these really

748
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,720
farcical comedies.
Like there's something about

749
00:43:56,720 --> 00:44:00,040
Mary and shallow how.
And so people didn't want to

750
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,840
take to him seriously as a
director.

751
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,520
But you watch this movie and you
would never know that that was

752
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,640
what he had in his in his
background, because this is such

753
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,840
a well made movie.
Yeah, that.

754
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,080
And that's what that's what I
really wanted to highlight

755
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:19,440
coming in today, that at the end
of the day, is this like a 9 1/2

756
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,080
out of 10 incredible Oscar best
picture winner.

757
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,880
Like, no, you know, it's, it's
not that.

758
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:31,240
Is it a really fun movie that is
technically well made?

759
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,920
Yeah.
Like there's a lot of really

760
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,520
well done things happening in
this film and I think that it's,

761
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,440
it's worth people coming back
to.

762
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,120
And I know I, I joked back at
the start of the episode that

763
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,280
like is the last time I've ever
watched Green Book.

764
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,840
I, I actually don't think that
it is like this is a film that I

765
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,160
probably another four or five
years from now, I, I think I

766
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,720
would want to come back to and
enjoy because it's just a really

767
00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:59,480
fun movie and the, the chemistry
between Mortensen and Ali is

768
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:04,000
impeccable and, and that's what
really sells this movie for me.

769
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,720
I do think that there there are
elements of the story itself

770
00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:10,240
that, you know, you were talking
earlier about like, like it's

771
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,200
really see this happening in the
1960s.

772
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:17,720
I think that they really air on
the side of, I don't want to say

773
00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:22,600
harmless racism, right?
But the only real hostile racism

774
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,880
they face is is in the deep,
Deep South.

775
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:31,360
And Vigo's racism is presented
more as racism of ignorance,

776
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,880
right?
And then they even get into

777
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,080
like, oh, he knows more about
black culture than Don Shirley

778
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,320
does.
And, you know, I think that that

779
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,360
a lot of people kind of pushed
back on that element of it, that

780
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:50,000
it ultimately presented like a
very sanitized version of what

781
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,480
it was really like to be black
in America in the 1960s.

782
00:45:53,720 --> 00:45:55,960
And I think that's a fair
criticism of this movie.

783
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:01,560
Like it is a very palatable
movie about racism.

784
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,280
You can watch this movie and and
feel very deeply for that

785
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,040
character, but it doesn't
challenge you the way that like

786
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:14,200
do the right thing challenges
you to think about the the very

787
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,440
deep seated and rooted racism in
this country.

788
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:24,040
And at the same time, though,
there is something to be said

789
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:29,320
about making a crowd pleaser.
And I think that, like, you have

790
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,600
to try to balance those two when
you're criticizing this movie.

791
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:40,480
Like not every movie is intended
to be a gut punch when you walk

792
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,680
out of the theater.
And I think that especially

793
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,640
whether or not Nick Valalonga
like massaged the details of the

794
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:52,760
story to make it more favorable
to Tony Lip.

795
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,120
And that's what people say about
it, apparently.

796
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,280
But like, I think that you need
you need to have movies like do

797
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:00,880
the right thing.
And I also think you need to

798
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,640
have movies like Green Book.
And I know Spike Lee disagrees

799
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:09,600
with me, but like, you can't
show certain people a movie like

800
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,360
Do the right Thing without them
getting very defensive about it.

801
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,240
And I think that this is the
kind of movie that you can ease

802
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:19,600
into having conversations by
showing people a movie like

803
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,000
this.
It has its place and and I think

804
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,560
that within that place it's just
a damn good movie.

805
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,360
Yeah.
Well, and at the end of the day,

806
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:34,480
this film is a story about how
in order to move past racism,

807
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:39,080
you have to genuinely spend time
with people of a different race.

808
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,440
Like, like, like that's a very
simple message I think we can

809
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,240
all get behind where it's like,
hey, if you want to get to be

810
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:50,120
less afraid and less dismissive
of things that you don't

811
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,480
understand, you have to spend
time learning and understanding

812
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,560
those things.
And I think that's kind of the

813
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,000
message of the movie.
Like, you know, And do they, is

814
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,560
it a sanitized version or
picture of what that might look

815
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:04,720
like in real life?
Sure.

816
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,600
But at the end of the day, like,
we don't have to go to the

817
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,800
movies to be disheartened by the
state of humanity.

818
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,840
I mean, if you asked me to make
a top five list of like, or, you

819
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,920
know, like make a syllabus of
movies that depict race in

820
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,200
America, this would not make my
top five, right?

821
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,560
Like it's just, it's, it's not
that it's totally inaccurate.

822
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,800
It's just that there are other
movies that I would point to

823
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,120
that that drill down deeper,
that had a clearer picture and a

824
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,080
more complex message behind
them.

825
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:43,880
But you also can't always put
the onus on movies like this for

826
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,560
not going as deep as you would
want them to, you know what I'm

827
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:47,920
saying?
Like there just has to be a

828
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,880
place for intro to Racism one O
1.

829
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,320
Yeah.
And even in that picture, like

830
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,640
I, I understand people push back
on certain elements of this

831
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:57,760
movie.
I don't think it's a perfect

832
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,680
movie, but I think that there
are categories to this these

833
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,560
kind of things.
And I think that this movie is a

834
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,080
really good example of one of
those categories.

835
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,560
Yep.
Well, Speaking of categories,

836
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,560
Bob, I think it's time we move
into our final segment of the

837
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,720
day where we pair this movie
with another movie, usually from

838
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:20,240
a similar category.
So what say you make it a double

839
00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:21,920
Bob?
We're near the end of the

840
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,320
episodes of Things, listening to
the film and Whiskey Show.

841
00:49:25,720 --> 00:49:27,280
Let's pair another film with
this one.

842
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,520
Even if it's struggling.
It's the final segment of the

843
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:30,960
day.
Now let's make it a double.

844
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:32,960
That's right.
It's Let's Make It a Double, the

845
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,600
part of the podcast where we
pair a movie up with this one to

846
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,160
make a perfect double feature.
Brad, do you want to go first or

847
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,600
do you want me to get mine out
of the way?

848
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,720
I'll jump in first.
I think that I would stick with

849
00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:49,600
the comedy route rather than the
race relations route.

850
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,320
I'm going to pair this with
Planes, Trains and Automobiles.

851
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,960
Also holiday themed.
Also holiday themed.

852
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,160
That's right.
The warm fuzzies come back

853
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:01,600
again.
See what I did there?

854
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,880
Nothing like a good cross
country holiday, you know I'll

855
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,040
be home for Christmas kind of
theme.

856
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,560
It just always works.
Once again, the the chemistry

857
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:18,600
between Martin and Candy and
that is just impeccable that

858
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,240
that's what really drew me to
pair these two together.

859
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:23,080
I'm.
Going to pick a movie from

860
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,640
almost the same year as Planes,
Trans and Automobiles.

861
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,160
I'm going to go with 1989's
Driving Miss Daisy.

862
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:32,200
It is kind of like the obvious
one to pair up because it's a

863
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,440
movie about race relations.
It is a movie that was highly

864
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,800
criticized for presenting such a
sanitized version.

865
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,240
It's a movie that went up
against a Spike Lee movie.

866
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,400
This was the year that Do the
Right Thing came out and Spike

867
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,560
was kind of roundly rejected by
the Academy.

868
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,080
And then they heaped awards on
Driving Miss Daisy.

869
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,040
And I will say I think Driving
Miss Daisy has been raked over

870
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,120
the coals a lot more than Green
Book.

871
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,480
And I think that's why it would
make an interesting double

872
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,280
feature, because when you pair
this movie up against Driving

873
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,720
This Daisy, I think Green Book
kind of looks like a masterpiece

874
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:07,960
in in comparison.
And I think it would make for a

875
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:12,280
really interesting conversation
around why do movies like this

876
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,560
have the appeal that they do,
especially among awards voters,

877
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:23,360
and what has changed from 1989
to 2018, if anything, in the way

878
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,800
movies like this are made.
So they can make for a really

879
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,400
fascinating double feature, if
not as entertaining as the one

880
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,280
that you proposed I.
Would say people will have more

881
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,080
fun with plain screens and
automobiles.

882
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,280
That's my, you know, honestly,
just just listen to Brad this

883
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,520
week.
Just ignore mine.

884
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,040
All right.
Man, it is time for us to give

885
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,920
this movie some final scores.
I feel like I've talked a lot in

886
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,640
the back half so I'll just say
this.

887
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,640
It's a really well made movie.
I think it's a 7.5 and it's the

888
00:51:54,640 --> 00:52:00,440
kind of 7.5 that like old
fashioned 7 point fives like

889
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,520
where it is understood that the
movie is technically well made.

890
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,640
Because I feel like nowadays
when I give a movie a 7.5, it's

891
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,240
like, well it was a Marvel movie
and it kind of looked like crap

892
00:52:10,240 --> 00:52:13,480
and it was kind of directed like
crap, but like it was enjoyable.

893
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,440
So I'll give it a 7.5.
It's way better than that.

894
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:22,360
But it's also like, at its core,
this is a three out of four-star

895
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,280
movie.
Yeah, yeah, I think I'm a little

896
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,800
bit higher than you on this.
I'm going to give it an 8 1/2.

897
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,960
Like, I think it's really
entertaining.

898
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,400
It's really palatable.
It's really easy to come back

899
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,480
to.
And it's something that I

900
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,920
appreciated what Peter Fairley
and Nick Valalongo we're going

901
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,760
for.
So I, I, I enjoyed it, but it's,

902
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,560
it's not out of, you know, it's
not out of this world. 8 1/2.

903
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,000
All right.
So we're coming out to an

904
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,160
average of an 8 out of 10 on
Green Book, but we'd like to

905
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,560
know what you guys think.
It's been years and years since

906
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,160
this movie came out.
What do you think of it now that

907
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,080
it's kind of settled into
culture?

908
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,280
You can let us know on our
social medias Facebook, Twitter,

909
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:07,040
Instagram, Tiktok, YouTube at
Film Whiskey.

910
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,680
Or you can join our discord.
We are on there every single day

911
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,000
talking to you guys, the fans of
the Film and Whiskey podcast.

912
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,280
You can find a link to our
Discord at the end of every

913
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,920
single one of our show notes.
Right next week it is time for

914
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,760
us to dive into your favorite
movie that you have ever

915
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,240
reviewed on the Film and Whiskey
podcast.

916
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,080
It's The Assassination of Jesse
James by the Coward Robert Ford.

917
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,200
Bro, you can't make me.
Should I, should I place bets as

918
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,680
to whether you will like this
movie more this time around?

919
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:42,720
You, you go ahead and do
whatever you want, Bob, you just

920
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:45,880
do whatever you want.
This was like the movie that

921
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,000
could have ruined the podcast
for us.

922
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,880
And some would say did ruin,
Some would say we peeked at

923
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:57,080
Green Book and never recovered.
Kind of like Nick Val along.

924
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,240
Yeah, exactly.
All right, join us next week for

925
00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:03,600
The Assassination of Jesse James
by the Coward Robert Ford.

926
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,800
But until then, I'm Bob Book.
I'm Brad G.

927
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,080
And we'll see you next time.