Everything Everywhere All At Once / Barrell New Year 2025 Bourbon ft. Lee Diaz, ReserveBar

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In 2022, directors Daniel Kwan
and Daniel Shiner and star

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Michelle Yeoh gave the world a
mind bending drama about the

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power of human choice.
In 2025, we go back in time a

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few weeks to try a new year
release.

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The film is Everything
Everywhere all at once.

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The whiskey is barrel New Year
2025.

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And we'll review them both.
This is the.

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Film and Whiskey podcast.
Welcome to the Film and Whiskey

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podcast, where each week we
review a classic movie and a

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glass of whiskey.
I'm Bob Book.

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I'm Brad G.
And this week we are looking at

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the 2000 and 2223.
What did we?

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Say 2022. 22 man the the whole
2025 thing is throwing me off

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dude.
Like I'm not used to it being a

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new year yet.
Yeah, it's it's tough, man.

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It happens every year.
It's a regular occurrence in our

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lives.
And yet here we are.

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And yet I don't get used to it
till February.

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Let me, let me go ahead and give
it a take.

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Two, we're looking at the 2022
film Everything Everywhere All

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At Once.
Brad.

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As you know, and as many
listeners of the podcast will

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know, this season on film and
Whiskey, what we're doing is

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we're looking at films from the
last 20 years and we're asking

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the question, does this movie
deserve to be considered a

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modern masterpiece?
Not to whittle down our list of

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movies that we looked at this
season, we looked at 4

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categories.
Is it in the IMDb top 250?

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Is it in the letterbox to top
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Did it make $100 million?
Was it nominated for Best

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Picture?
Brad, I pulled up absolutely

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none of those data points to
double check against except I

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know it was nominated for Best
Picture because it's a Best

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picture winner.
This movie, I, I watch it now

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again and I'm like, how in the
hell did this movie win Best

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Picture at the Oscars?
Not because it's not a quality

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movie, but there is very little
about this film that screams

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Oscar winner Brad.
Yeah, I just pulled it up on Box

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Office Mojo.
It made 143,000,000 worldwide,

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with 77 of that coming
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And I'm not.
I'm not.

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Sure, quite the 100 million
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Yeah.
Is it in the top 250 on either

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of these sites is the thing?
I honestly am not sure I I think

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on IMDb it is like a 7.8 which I
think would put it out of the

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out of the.
Top 250.

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So is the only qualifying entry
that it is a best picture

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winner?
That would be super shocking to

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me.
It it would be to me as well.

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I think that this is well higher
than a 7.8.

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I'm curious because I remember
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and looking this up and it was
like at an 8.8 on IMDb and I

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knew that that was inflated.
I was expecting it to land in

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like the 8.1 to 8.3 area. 7.8 is
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Yeah, The funny thing about IMDb
is that it seems like there are

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just masses of people who don't
like anything and then vote on

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it like a year after the fact.
Like the movie score is always

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going to come down as more
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But what surprises me is how
often a movie starts at like a

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nine point O and then six months
later it's still at like an 8.38

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point 2.
And then you give it like a full

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year and it's down into the the
high sevens.

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Like, I get that not everybody
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I get that it's not for
everybody.

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But I'm with you, man.
When a movie starts as high as

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this movie did on IMDb, it's
it's interesting to see it fall.

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However, Brad, I really like
this movie.

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I know that you really like this
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We've been hinting at how
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post the theatrical experience
have maybe diminished our

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appreciation of the movie a bit.
So I'm interested to get into

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that with you today.
But before we go any further,

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we've been making our guest for
the day Just sit here in the

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background, not saying anything.
He has googly eyes pasted to his

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microphone, so I know he's ready
to dive in.

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It's our old friend Lee Diaz
from Reserve Bar Lee, how are

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you, man?
Hey gentlemen, it's I'm doing

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great.
I'm so excited to be able to

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review this movie with you.
It's it is one of my favourites

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so I have a lot to say.
I mean, yeah, we gave you the

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option to choose your movie for
the season and you landed on

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this one.
So typically people don't choose

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a movie that they want to come
in and crap all over.

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But what is it specifically
about this one that made you

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want to spend an hour and a half
with us today talking about it?

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Well, I think it has so many
layers just of complexity and

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depth.
I mean, you can keep it super

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like high level superficial and
be like, hey, this is a new take

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on the multiverse.
Like, what does it look like

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when certain decisions really
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And how many people am I in the
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But I think as you kind of dig
in, there are so many layers.

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And then having seen this in the
movie theater before anybody was

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talking about it, I think
there's just such a wow factor

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that came with seeing this in
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actually why I think it got such
high early IMDb scores, because

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the wow factor is in the movie
experience, man.

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When you put that on the smaller
screen, if you're deep enough,

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you got it.
If if you're kind of high level

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still it it's not as powerful.
I've seen it a few times just on

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my TV and sometimes it's just
like, no, it's not hitting the

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right notes.
I will say I recently got a very

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expensive OLED monitor for my
computer and watching this on

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like, you know, like a 27 inch
OLED monitor, man, oh man, does

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it look good.
It's a it's a beautiful

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experience and it did for me
recapture a little bit of that

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like magic of the cinema 'cause
you are rightly this is a movie

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that I would put in like the top
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You have to see in theaters to
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Type of movies like like it's a
movie that justifies the

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existence of cinema.
Absolutely a.

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Theater going experience.
Brad, that is a bold statement,

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man.
And typically you don't make

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blanket statements about the
existence of cinema like that

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unless you've got a lot to say.
So I think maybe this is a good

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place for us to segue into our
first segment of the day, which

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we call, Brad explains.
Brad's going to give us the

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movie plots with only 60 seconds
sticking on the clock, so let's

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go ahead and do your take with
this little segment that we

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call, Brad explains.
Brad Explains is the part of the

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show where Brad breaks down the
plot of the film that he has

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just seen, often for the first
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Now, Brad, we were talking off
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I believe this is watch #3 for
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Yeah, it sure is.
Saw it in theaters, watched it

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with some friends a few months
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nights ago and watched it in its
entirety even though I only

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meant to watch like half of it.
I got dude, I got sucked in so

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hard.
I don't want to get too far down

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the rabbit hole here, but you're
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OLED monitor.
Lee, I'm kind of with you on the

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experience of watching this
movie based on like where and

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how you're watching it.
So I watched this movie today on

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a laptop.
I had watched it for my second

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watch on my largest television
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inches.
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theater.
And it does kind of feel like

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one of those films that's like
the inverse Brad of Past Lives,

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where the sort of smallness and
stillness of that movie I think

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works.
You can watch that movie on your

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phone if you really wanted to,
and it still works really well.

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Or on the backseat of an
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Yeah.
I mean, apparently not.

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That did not work out very well
for you when you tried that.

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But I think this film, there's
so much happening that I'm

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curious about like the sensory
overload experience of it.

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You know, I, I talked earlier
this season or or maybe it was

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last season about Into the
Spider verse and how that movie

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like almost gave me a seizure in
the movie theater and I didn't

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like it until I could watch it
in a more controlled

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environment.
Do you feel like any of the

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three experiences Brad has been
influenced by the format that

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you watched it in?
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I watched it, we watched it in
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My heater was running and it was
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And the kids are right above me
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And so you have to kind of keep
it down and, and, you know, have

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subtitles on for the whole
movie, not, you know, not just

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for the Chinese lines that are
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And so there's something about
it being a little too quiet,

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having to read subtitles the
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And I did not enjoy it as much
the second time.

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The most recent time I had
headphones on, I could have it

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at just the right volume and in
theaters.

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This is a impeccable experience.
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And I I would say that really
the theater experience for this

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one, it, it brightens those
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and then it allows kind of for
the like depth of the movie to

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kind of sit with you.
And so for theater, like I think

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this is perfect because that
just deep action that Michelle

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is known for.
I mean, I just think back to all

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of her action movies way back
when, even before we get to like

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Crouching Tiger, right?
Like the actual action movies.

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And you see kind of this level
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everything is that comes
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in the in the flashing between
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Like everything needs to be a
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because you're expressing these
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All right, Brad, we'll get into
Brad explains here.

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You have 60 seconds to break
down the plot of this movie.

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This is another one of those
ones we've had a lot lately

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where if you wanted to go 5
minutes explaining the details

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of this movie, you really could.
You could also go like 11

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seconds on explaining this
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It's a it's a mile wide and I
don't want it's not an inch

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deep, mile wide and a mile deep,
right?

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You have 60 seconds.
Spoil the hell out of this movie

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and go.
Everything Everywhere All At

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Once is a film that initially,
before it was released on IMDb,

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the synopsis was given.
A 55 year old Chinese American

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woman tries to do her taxes and
I I almost want to leave it at

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that because that's like such a
perfect encapsulation of the

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film.
Trying to pay what she owes to

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her future generation to the
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Bob, I don't know how to explain
this movie.

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I have seen it three times.
It is a multiverse movie.

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It's a philosophy movie.
It's an action movie.

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It's a noir drama movie.
It's a love story.

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It's everything wrapped up into
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experience that if you haven't
seen it guys, I don't know if I

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could ever more strongly tell
you stop listening to this

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stupid podcast and go watch this
freaking movie cuz it like you

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can't.
It's it's a movie that deserves

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fresh eyes and a fresh brain
that isn't like tainted by our

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thoughts of the film.
All right, not only did you go

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almost a minute and a half, you
also trashed our podcast.

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So Brad, you're officially being
placed on mute for the next 5

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minutes.
Yes, let's.

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Do it.
You're going to your corner.

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No, I think where I want to go
with this guy is because the

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sense that I get is that I'm
going to be a little bit lower

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on this movie than the two of
you are.

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And this, I think was my number
one movie of the year back in

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22.
It was right up there upon my

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second viewing, I asked my wife
to watch it with me and we

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watched it really similar to
you, Brad.

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We're like in the basement
watching it on the TV and I

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could tell that she just was not
vibing with this movie for like

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a large portion of the film.
Was it the point where you

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realized what the auditor award
could be used for?

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Was that the point where she was
like, eh, I'm out?

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No, my like my wife appreciates
a good dirty joke.

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That's fine.
It was, I think it was that your

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wife appreciates it.
Absolutely not.

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We're we're not going there,
Brad.

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You really are getting put on
mute here, man.

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This is you're going to get me
in trouble.

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Like at the halfway point of the
movie, I started hearing those

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little noises people make when
they're being polite, but

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they're kind of checked out.
You know, when it's like you get

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the first little sigh that
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this film and there's.
Something like when you've been

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talking for a while on the
podcast and I'm over here just

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ready to interrupt you.
Yeah, there's something about

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watching a movie with an
uninterested party that really

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kind of, like, puts your
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You start wondering, like, do I
just turn this off?

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I don't want to start an
argument, you know, But like, if

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she's not enjoying it, what do
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And what it ultimately did was
it made me start looking at what

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may be perceived as flaws in
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And it really solidified for me
that this movie is not as great

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as I remembered it being.
Doesn't mean it's not a great

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movie.
It's just not a 10 out of 10 for

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me.
And I'm curious because both of

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you guys, I think you're going
to laud this movie throughout

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this episode.
Maybe a fun little exercise to

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start with here is like having
watched it multiple times.

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Do you see any kind of cracks in
the facade, or does it work as

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well the third time around as it
did the first time around?

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Butt Plugs Butt plugs are the
crack in this movie, Bob.

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Well, they they at least went in
the crack.

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They sure did.
That was a crack in the film, if

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you will.
I I the first time I walked out

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of the movies, I was like, that
was a perfect movie, But I don't

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think they needed like and I
don't even want to say like the

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sexual stuff because there's not
there's barely even any scenes

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of anybody kissing each other.
And if it is, it's like a cute

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older Asian couple that's just
being adorable.

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The paraphernalia, maybe you
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those are the few things for me
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watch, I'm like, like, there's
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And I don't think it needed to
go into the crass like region to

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make its point.
Other than that, Bob, there's

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not a single flaw with this
film.

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Yeah, I I agree.
Actually, I think that like I

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started taking notes of all of
the triggers, trigger items in

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order to explore the different,
you know, to gain the skills of

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alternative universes.
And it really, I mean, you're

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right.
Like they're really the butt

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plug 1 was like you actually
didn't need it because there's

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so many just fun things.
And actually the one that really

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hurt for me was like the four
paper cuts across the fingers.

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Like you could do these what
eating somebody'd burgers or

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those things are kind of funny,
but they don't have to go to

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that next level.
And you could have kept it there

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easily and been wildly
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And I think for the rest of the
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stayed in that like wildly
entertaining space with a few

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cringe moments.
I just think they they

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overstepped the cringe moment
like a few times and and you

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know, it kind of it kind of
missed.

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I think for me, what you guys
are hinting at, it gets to a

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little bit of a larger problem
that I have with the movie.

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And you know, it's not to say
that like I wasn't bothered by

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some of that stuff, but like the
presence of paraphernalia, Brad,

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like it just doesn't bother me
that much.

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What I what it hinted at,
though, I think was like it was

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representative of this movie's
larger attitude of being really

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irreverent.
Like it's just a, it's a movie

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that does not care what you
think of it for a large chunk of

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its runtime.
And that can be good and that

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can be bad.
You have to find a really good

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balance of not undermining your
movie's own existence by acting

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like you're too cool for school.
And we've had a couple movies

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like this on the podcast, Brad
and I man, I can't remember

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which movie I made this point
about, but it was almost

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identical where I said, like,
the movie was irreverent for a

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really long time.
And it wanted to try to, you

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know, buck trends and subvert
expectations and not follow a

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linear path.
And then ultimately, to make the

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movie land, you've got to wrap
it up in a really traditional

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way anyway.
Like you got to return to the

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types of story arcs that work
for people.

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And I think my big problem with
the movie is like when you have

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a butt plug or when she's
holding a gigantic dildo, it

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feels like they're tipping the
irreverence meter off the

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charts.
And then that started to make

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even the smaller, irreverent
moments kind of have this sum

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total effect on me where it was
like, man, I really think you

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could have cut like 10 or 15
minutes out of the middle of

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this movie and it would have
moved along a lot better for me.

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I think the, the irreverence of
the film is like baked into the

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story that they're trying to
tell.

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And so I, I actually don't feel
like the movie is how do I put

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this?
Like the irreverence is not

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irreverent in this movie.
Like the only reason it feels

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irreverent in my opinion is
because the Daniels, as you

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will, the the two directors of
the film, they are like pulling

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from so many different genres to
create these movies that the

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irreverence feels more like it's
being irreverent to the history

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of those genres more than to the
actual like self-contained

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universe of this film.
Does that make sense?

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And doesn't?
Kind of it get to the notion

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kind of be one of the notions
behind the film, which is like

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it's all meaningless, right?
Like the, the irreverence itself

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is meaningless, right?
Like, like it's all about

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enjoying and being in that
moment.

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And it like, if everything's
meaningless, what gives you

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meaning?
And I think some of that is like

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you can almost say like it's a
very meta like display of their

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own notion of everything's
meaningless and being like it

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actually doesn't matter what the
triggers are.

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It's really about giving you a
full range of random stuff that

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causes things or creates
connection or makes you cringe

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that you're just kind of like
going across this spectrum of

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the human condition through the
movie.

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And, and some of that's
challenging and some of it's

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just like, wow, that's
ridiculous and fun, but well,

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and.
That, and that's the beauty of

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this film, is that in a world
where everything is possible

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anywhere all at once, right?
Like in a world where absolutely

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anything is possible, you can
kind of lean into one of two

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ways of thinking about it.
You can be as irreverent as you

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possibly can and just act like
it doesn't matter if I kill you

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with a gun or with a dildo.
And like, that's kind of the the

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Jobu Tupaci, who is the main bad
guy in the film.

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Like, that's kind of her
philosophy on the world is like,

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let's be as irreverent as
possible because nothing is

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matters.
And by the end of the film,

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Michelle Yeoh has experienced
that Evelyn is her her

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character's name.
Evelyn has like experienced

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that.
She understands it.

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And yet she intentionally
chooses what she is going to

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bring into people's lives.
And even some of that is a

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little ridiculous when she's,
you know, fighting the final

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battle and choosing love over
choosing, you know, hatred and

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violence.
Like, part of that is giving a

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sexual deviant what he wants,
but part of it is also like

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bringing two people to fall in
love or spraying a perfume to

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remind a man of his lost wife.
And, and it's like really

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beautiful things.
And so I think that's kind of

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the whole premise of the film is
like, are you going to lean into

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the randomness and irreverence
or are you going to be

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specifically, what's the word
I'm looking for?

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Like be very specific about the
way you choose to engage with

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the world, to bring love and
relationship and kindness.

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And so I and that's why I say
like, if there is irreverence in

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the film, it makes sense within
the world, even though because

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he gives you all these genres
that you have expectations and

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tropes and things like that.
The irreverence might be saying

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like something about those
genres and make you feel

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uncomfortable.
But within the self-contained

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film, I think it works
perfectly.

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Yeah, And I.
Think a lot of the the

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irreverent nature of the movie
that does kind of bother me is

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like there's a there's a
spectrum of like silly and

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irreverent.
And you can be silly towards

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your subject matter and
irreverent towards your subject

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matter.
Think of a movie like like

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Anchorman, like OK, it's
following the beats of a biopic

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of a fictional news man, right?
But everything in that is a

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complete send up and a parody of
that genre.

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I think you also have like an
irreverence of character in a

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movie like Guardians of the
Galaxy, Like they are not your

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typical superheroes.
And that's kind of their point.

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And then I think where you start
drifting into really dangerous

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territory is where you become so
irreverent about your character,

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about the story, and then about
the movies on purpose that

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you're kind of sitting in the
audience wondering like, why did

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they make a movie if it feels
like they hate movies?

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And I don't think this movie
tilts into that realm.

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But I remember just this past
year, I went to see Deadpool and

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Wolverine with a buddy of mine
who is a huge Deadpool fan.

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And I was there because it was a
movie.

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And I, of course I'm going to
go.

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And I asked him what he thought
afterwards.

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And he was like, I think that
was the worst of the three

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Deadpool movies.
And so why do you feel like

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that?
And he said it just felt like

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the movie existed to make fun of
the MCU and to, like,

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specifically call out the
decision makers at Disney

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through the mouth of Ryan
Reynolds.

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Like it wasn't a movie.
It was just an excuse to break

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the 4th wall and talk about meta
things outside of the movie.

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And so I think that that that
kind of becomes the fine line of

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like, you want to be silly, you
want to be goofy, you want to be

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irreverent, but you don't want
to undermine your movie's own

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existence in the process.
Yeah, but I.

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Also, I also think that there's
such a fun like connection

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between the world's right.
And I think like, how do you

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express this notion that there
there are multiple U's?

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And I love this notion that like
significant decisions in your

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life, at least when we're
looking at like the closer

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world's right before it gets
everywhere, you know, like the

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significant decisions in your
life actually impact like the,

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the person that you actually
are.

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And I, I think that there's like
they're trying to pull together

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a whole bunch of things, which
is like, we all have those like

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out of body experiences or
thoughts of like, if I had made

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this decision, what would that
look like?

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So if you're trying to tell that
story in a unique way and then

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be like, but just imagine the
crazy version of you, like with

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sausage fingers.
And like if you during the

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flashback towards the end where
there's like 40 different

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versions of, of Evelyn, like,
you know, the ones that you

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can't even imagine and then you
try to create connection between

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them.
How do you do that in a way that

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kind of breaks again, breaks
that 4th wall.

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Like I'm so locked into the
person of Evelyn that I'm

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distracted by everything else.
Actually, I'm going to give you

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so much distraction that you
start understanding the other

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people of Evelyn, right?
Like it's almost like I'm

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helping you break out of this
very focused character building

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by giving you 1000 other
characters by distracting you

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with all this like nonsensical
stuff and.

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I and I think it also what it
does incredibly well is it gives

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you an opportunity to examine
how the battle of like nature

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and nurture plays out.
And that in all of the universes

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that you see Evelyn in, she is
almost the same person.

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Like she's very driven, very
determined, very hard working,

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has a brilliant mind, has
hobbies that she loves.

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Like all of them feature the
same core driving factors within

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the heart and soul of Evelyn,
but there's they all result in

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vastly different places.
And the the key factor among all

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of those is her choices.
Like at each and every choice of

447
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:13,040
her life, she chose something
that led her to where she is

448
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,280
now.
And I and I love how the movie

449
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,120
is raw and honest about the fact
that you could take a person,

450
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,760
it's still Lee or Bob or Brad,
and they still kind of have the

451
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,440
same inner drive and spirit and
who they are.

452
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,480
But the choices we make truly
matter.

453
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,480
And they lead us to different
places in their lives.

454
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,640
One set of choices might lead us
to be famous opera singers, and

455
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,640
another set of choices might
lead us to the lives we are

456
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,240
living right now.
And I I think that that's like

457
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,720
such a fascinating examination
of the human experience.

458
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,960
Lee, let me open a can of worms
here real quick.

459
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,000
Let's do this with Brad on our
last episode when I brought up

460
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,000
The Last Jedi.
I'm not gonna bring up The Last

461
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,600
Jedi.
I am gonna bring up.

462
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,280
Perhaps I did.
Just bring up The Last Jedi.

463
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,200
I'm gonna, well, I'm.
Also gonna bring up perhaps the

464
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,680
second most hated film of Brad.
Where do you stand on Eternal

465
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,160
Sunshine?
Oh.

466
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,080
Man I Brad, man.
OK, so.

467
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,840
Pro are you Pro So so.
Here's the thing, I love parts

468
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,600
of it and I hate parts of it,
right?

469
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,360
Like I think that like this
notion of like removing part of

470
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,600
yourself in order to I think
have a more, what you would say

471
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,760
more happy life, I guess, right?
Like that's the spotless mind,

472
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,160
right?
Like, man, it's hard because

473
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,800
everything that you are makes
you who you are.

474
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,240
And so I was really challenged
by this notion of like super

475
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:49,200
broken people facilitating his
removal of, you know, of an, of

476
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,960
experiences and just parting all
around him and everything like

477
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,880
that.
I actually, I didn't enjoy

478
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,520
watching that movie.
I I loved kind of the notions

479
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,680
behind it and where they were
trying to go, but I just didn't

480
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,200
like the packaging around it.
Like, I thought you could have

481
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:11,480
actually filmed a far better
movie without kind of the

482
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,320
package that it ended up in.
So that's part of why.

483
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,680
I brought it up because I think
this movie reminds me a lot of

484
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,720
Eternal Sunshine in the sort of
like really playful style of

485
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,200
filming that it went for.
Like there's just some weird

486
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,000
whimsical use of the camera, you
know, lighting styles in that

487
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,960
movie.
And I kept trying to think of,

488
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,960
you know, if I was going to
describe the overall vibe and

489
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,520
aesthetic of this movie to
somebody.

490
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,520
It's almost like if Michelle
Gondry, the guy who directed

491
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,920
Eternal Sunshine, was asked to
make The Matrix, like I think

492
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,280
that's kind of what this movie
would come out being.

493
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,600
And I, I say all that as a segue
into, I do think that there are

494
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,400
a ton of influences on this
movie, both narratively,

495
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,760
thematically, aesthetically,
Brad and and Lee.

496
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,560
I'm wondering what you saw as
either references this movie

497
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,920
made or things that you think
influenced this movie.

498
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,240
Oh my gosh, I mean, there's so
many references throughout.

499
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,760
I mean, one of the ones that I
love towards the end was like,

500
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,640
and for me was just referencing
the Matrix, for instance, like

501
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,600
stopping the bullets when
everybody's shooting at her,

502
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,920
right?
Like and just picking that one

503
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,720
bullet and being like, like if
that for me, if that wasn't the

504
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,680
matrix, I mean a perfect, you
know, example.

505
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,800
But I just think that there's
and you talked about it earlier.

506
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:38,280
There's so many elements to this
movie that just lean into a

507
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:43,120
variety of genres, including, I
think, like leaning back into

508
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,320
when we look at like Weyman's
character, we actually look at

509
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,720
the actors like earlier
characters of like whimsy and

510
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:57,200
like using like joy and like,
you know that like actually, he

511
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,040
just encompasses that normally
in general, right?

512
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:05,600
We look at Michelle Yeoh and,
and Kung Fu and, and various

513
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,920
styles of, of martial art.
Like, I think you can say this

514
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,920
was almost a culmination of a
variety of the movies that they

515
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:17,320
had previously been in and, and
not giving nods to the people

516
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,920
that they actually are.
I mean, clearly the the Kung Fu

517
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,040
actress is a pretty clear nod to
who Michelle Yeoh is normally,

518
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,240
but I think that there's just a
lot of depth where they're just

519
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:34,440
pulling in so much while making
fun of kind of all of it.

520
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:41,480
There there's an element of this
movie that reminds me of like if

521
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:47,920
you took Ikiru and like, just
put it on absolute steroids.

522
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,480
Yeah, but like, for me, there's
a lot of that similar like with

523
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:57,960
the backdrop of the dead end
government office environment,

524
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:03,760
like what happens when you begin
to ask questions around purpose

525
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:09,120
and who am I and why am I here?
And you know, Akiru by the end

526
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:14,440
of the film is a quiet Japanese
film about the beauty of a life

527
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,000
well ended.
And this film ends with the IRS

528
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,520
building in complete shambles
and destroyed it.

529
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,440
And it's, it's incredible.
But I I think that there is

530
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:29,200
something to be said for a film
like a Kiru influencing a film

531
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,840
like Everything Everywhere All
at Once 100%.

532
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,720
Man, yeah.
And I think we're we're tipping

533
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,120
dangerously close into let's
make it a double territory.

534
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,880
But I couldn't really go any
further without talking about

535
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,560
movies that I felt like we're
influences on this.

536
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,320
And I wrote down a couple,
obviously The Matrix and Eternal

537
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:49,320
Sunshine, but it really gave off
strong Walter Mitty vibes for

538
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,840
me.
I think there's a ton of that.

539
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,320
Like let's take a leap of faith
in a way that's almost

540
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,880
fantastical, almost like, is
this real?

541
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,960
Is this not to discover
ourselves?

542
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,200
Brad, Maybe it's because it's
January and I just watched this

543
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,800
like a month ago, but I think
you could draw a connection

544
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,320
today.
It's a wonderful life, you know,

545
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,040
somebody being shown what their
life would and would not be like

546
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,520
without them by a kindly, you
know, other original.

547
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,200
Multiverse, yeah.
I think that there's a lot of a

548
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,360
movie that I don't particularly
care for in Scott Pilgrim versus

549
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,840
the World where you're like
physically fighting

550
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,960
manifestations of yourself or
others in another way that's

551
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,160
like, I don't know if this is
actually really happening.

552
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,880
I don't know if this is all a
metaphor.

553
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,000
And then that traced me back to
I think the originator of that.

554
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,440
It was all a dream, which is the
Wizard of Oz.

555
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,160
Like there's there's this movie
really fits into that sub genre

556
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,680
of I don't I don't even know
what you'd call it.

557
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,480
Like metaphorical self discovery
type movies.

558
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,120
Yeah, well, and I think what
you're hinting at if you haven't

559
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,000
seen everything ever all at
once, is that this movie like

560
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,880
falls within a million genres.
Like there there's so many

561
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:04,480
different cinemagraphic choices
made throughout the film.

562
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,320
Like the the cinematography I
think is incredible in this

563
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,160
movie, Like the the way that
they build up the characters

564
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,360
through the use of the camera.
I think the acting is

565
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,280
incredible.
Is it K Hui Kai Hui kwan?

566
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,080
He pronounces.
It Ki Hui kwan Ki Hui kwan.

567
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:28,560
So like Ki Hui Kwan is so
freaking good at letting the

568
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:33,920
audience know which version of
Waymond he is just and like

569
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,240
obviously he kind of takes off
the glasses each time and then

570
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,440
puts him back on when he's
normal Waymond.

571
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,120
But like even just his
physicality, you can just feel

572
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,480
like a raw masculinity emanating
from him anytime he goes into

573
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:52,720
alpha verse mode.
I like, I just I love everything

574
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,960
they did in the genre hopping in
the acting that there's so much

575
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,840
to love here.
I think the.

576
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,600
The other thing we haven't
really touched on was like Joy's

577
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:06,480
journey in in the movie as well.
And I think this leans into some

578
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,400
of those coming of age films,
right?

579
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,960
Like, and, and the struggle that
she really has is like an ABC,

580
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,560
right?
American born Chinese, when

581
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,120
you're looking at your first,
second, third generation

582
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:24,679
Americans and just this, just
this like struggle, feeling like

583
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:28,719
you're in between two cultures.
I mean, she like, that's really

584
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,280
where her pain stems from is
like feeling like she's just

585
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,880
touting in between two and out
of that being like, you know

586
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,440
what, forget it.
All right, Like I, I don't care.

587
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,440
It's all meaningless.
This is where I become the bad

588
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,400
guy because like I just, I'm
disconnecting from it all

589
00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:50,199
because it all sucks and I don't
understand it and nobody's kind

590
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:53,159
of giving me my due.
So is that like the sisterhood

591
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:55,400
of the traveling pants grows up?
I don't know, you know, but

592
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,120
like, I, I think there's
something to be said of like

593
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,680
that human condition of feeling
disconnected from who you're

594
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,960
expected to be or you who you
feel like you should be.

595
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,600
And then the net out of that is
like, well, it all sucks, right?

596
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,040
Like, and and that's, that's
actually her impasse that she

597
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,240
hasn't actually gotten to yet,
Michelle, or as Evelyn is a

598
00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:22,400
little bit further down that
road, but like she's about to

599
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,160
make a a ton of just life
decisions and she's at the

600
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,280
beginning of it.
And just at the beginning of it,

601
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,640
she's like, forget it.
I'm out.

602
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,320
Yeah.
I think that what you guys are

603
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:37,120
are also underscoring here is
when this movie feels like it is

604
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,640
connected to this larger
tradition of other great movies

605
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,760
is when it's really working for
me.

606
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,840
And that middle section that I,
I suggested could be tightened

607
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,400
up a little bit.
I think what's what's happening

608
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,160
there that doesn't work for me
is the Daniels.

609
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,200
The two directors of this film
got their start making music

610
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,880
videos and YouTube videos, and
so is it what's the big one?

611
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,400
Not party Rock Anthem.
Were they Party Rock Lee?

612
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,800
I can't remember.
Turn down for what?

613
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,080
That's their big video that they
ended up securing their first

614
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,720
movie off of.
And it has this chaotic energy.

615
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,960
I think when the movie's not
working for me, it's because

616
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,880
they lean a little bit too much
into that.

617
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:22,560
Like we're making an SNL digital
short where, you know, John

618
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,160
Ralphio's sister has a dog on a
leash and she's swinging it at

619
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,680
the like.
It just got a little bit too far

620
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,320
away from what I felt like the
movie was ultimately pointing

621
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,240
towards.
But again, like, you can't talk

622
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:39,360
about a movie with this many
influences that is like so

623
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:44,480
tapped into its characters and
and just crap on it, right?

624
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,280
Like I I do think ultimately
this movie is successful and you

625
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,880
started hinting at it, Lee.
It all comes down to the

626
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,960
performances.
That's what really grounds this

627
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,760
movie.
And guys, we're running a little

628
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,200
bit long.
So I think it's time for us to

629
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,000
break and try some whiskey.
But when we get back from break,

630
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,960
let's dive into especially these
three main characters, plus the

631
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,160
Academy Award winner Jamie Lee
Curtis.

632
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,960
So what do you guys say?
We try this barrel New year,

633
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,200
Let's get.
To it.

634
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:20,280
All right everybody today we are
drinking Barrel New Year 2025.

635
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:26,440
Now Barrel has long been one of
our absolute favorite not

636
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:32,320
distillers blenders of whiskey.
And let me tell you what this is

637
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:38,000
an absolute banger.
It is coming in at 112.1 proof,

638
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,560
so not a terribly high proofed
whiskey.

639
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,680
I I could read off all of the
different like mash bills that

640
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,840
they're putting into this, but
it's like 87 mash bills and they

641
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,920
know what they're doing and we
trust them.

642
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,760
This is a daggone good whiskey,
Bob, and I'm excited for you

643
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,480
guys to drink it.
Yeah, I'm drinking.

644
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,480
It Live Today, so I haven't
quite dove into it yet.

645
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,200
The Barrel New Year is an annual
release from Barrel.

646
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,600
We've had past iterations of it
on the show.

647
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,240
It is one of my favorite
recurring releases, especially

648
00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:11,760
from Barrel each year, Brad
said.

649
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,880
You know, there's a a million
match bills in this.

650
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,960
I think it is really a testament
to their blending abilities and

651
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,240
that's kind of what they're
trying to do with this release.

652
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:24,160
This year's release includes
whiskeys from 123456 of the

653
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,640
eight different States and there
are 18 different whiskeys going

654
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,520
into this blend.
So the ultimate mash bill on

655
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:38,600
this is 75% corn, 20% rye, 4%
malted barley, and 1% wheat.

656
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,880
We have officially reached 4
grain designation here, Brad. 18

657
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,640
whiskeys.
Dude, I can't even imagine

658
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,320
trying to keep these straight as
you blend.

659
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,640
How many?
Whiskeys should I put into this

660
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,480
up to six.
I think the answer is 7.

661
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,680
My my disciple, the answer is
just.

662
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:55,960
Yes.
How many whiskeys?

663
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,160
Yes, all of the whiskeys.
Lee, before we dive in, Brad and

664
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,720
I sing the praises of Barrel all
the time on this show.

665
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,560
Where do you stand on Barrel as
a company and what's typically

666
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,680
your favorite release of theirs?
Oh man.

667
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,840
So I'm a huge fan of barrel.
We've actually been selecting a

668
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,200
number of single barrels from
them since we started our single

669
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,600
barrel program at Reserve Bar.
So they were really one of our

670
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,040
first because we saw that the
saw the work that they were

671
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:28,320
doing.
I think that Nick Christensen

672
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:34,280
as, as a blender has just such
an incredible nose and palate,

673
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:39,800
bringing that out of the food
and beverage industry and just

674
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,760
leaning in.
And I, I love the entire team

675
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,200
and the work that they're doing.
They know who they are and

676
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,000
they're like, we want to
continue to redefine what

677
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,880
blending whiskey can look like
in a time where a lot of people

678
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,880
are like, forget blended
whiskey, right?

679
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,960
So like I actually think.
They're super fun.

680
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:04,720
Man, I actually, I'm a big fan
of their finishes and so I I

681
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:07,440
can't pick a specific one if I
have to.

682
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,800
I really like the the Armeniac
finish.

683
00:40:11,240 --> 00:40:16,160
That they've pulled a few times.
I just think that they know

684
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,480
their whiskey, they know how to
finish it well and anytime I see

685
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,800
that they have a new finish out
in the store or if we can get

686
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:29,640
access to one, I want it and I
probably want multiple bottles

687
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,200
of it.
I think that's.

688
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,320
Typically our attitude as well.
So guys, let's go ahead and dive

689
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,840
in.
Lee, if you want to pull up a

690
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,120
little calculator to keep your
your tab running here, we will

691
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,800
score this on five categories,
nose, taste, finish, balance and

692
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,560
value.
All of them are scored out of

693
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,840
10.
You can give half point

694
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,680
increments if you'd like.
Brad, you've tried this already.

695
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,960
So Lee and I are going to be
sticking our noses and our

696
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,120
glasses here while you give your
nosing notes.

697
00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:01,720
This has just an incredible nose
of like mostly classic bourbon

698
00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:07,320
notes with some like surprises.
There's some peanuts and like a

699
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,240
really nice creamy creme brulee
caramel vibe.

700
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,080
There's a little bit of a
cinnamony spicy note going on.

701
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,000
And then like the longer I sat
with it, the, the more I was

702
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:23,600
like, man, there's like a zesty
lime pop going on here that I

703
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:28,680
think is really incredible.
This is a delectable nose that's

704
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,440
going to get an 8 out of 10 for
me.

705
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,680
Yeah, this is surprisingly
bright for me.

706
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,280
Like it.
It has these notes underpinning

707
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,120
it that don't quite tip into
what I would call the Will it

708
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,720
Funk Brad.
But there's a lot of leather,

709
00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:44,560
there's a lot of sawdust.
I get quite a bit of rose on

710
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,920
this, and then the wheat
character here comes out a

711
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,600
little bit, which is hilarious
because I think there's only 1%

712
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,200
wheat in the mash bill, but it
has that dusty cherry quality.

713
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:56,160
I'm with you.
There's definitely some citrus

714
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,200
zest in here, but what what?
Ultimately, I don't know if this

715
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,680
is even really a note.
It just smells like a summertime

716
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,920
kind of whiskey to me.
It's a little bit brighter.

717
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,280
It's a little bit like there's
those pops of melon that we

718
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,880
sometimes get on, like Irish
whiskeys, so it doesn't tip into

719
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,280
the really heavy syrupy notes
for me.

720
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,840
I'm intrigued by it.
I'm going to give it an 8.5.

721
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,280
Wow, guys, you're starting
really strong.

722
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,760
I I agree.
I love the I think the the older

723
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,560
whiskey and I don't know how
much of the blend it was, but

724
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,600
you know, you're looking at what
15 year old Tennessee?

725
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:38,640
I'm trying to look really quick.
12 year old Wyoming and your 12

726
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,960
year old Indiana, like I think
that that gives you some of

727
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,840
those oaky.
There's like this great, like

728
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:52,160
when you walk into a Rick house
nose like that older oak that

729
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,920
just kind of sits and lingers,
which is super fun.

730
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,760
And and Bob, to your point, I
don't know how it happens, but

731
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:04,720
at 1% wheat, where I most
prominently get the wheat is in

732
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:07,280
the nose.
And I don't know, maybe that's

733
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,320
the wheat and malted barley, but
it sits interesting.

734
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,240
It's crazy.
I'm not gonna be as friendly on

735
00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:16,920
the nose.
I I'm going to be a a little bit

736
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,920
more friendly later on.
But for me, for me, the nose

737
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:27,360
here is like a 7.5 I think as I.
Dove into the actual pallet for

738
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,920
me, there is like almost like
essence of like maraschino

739
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,520
cherry.
It wasn't even like a a super

740
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,680
active flavor.
There is a bit of like a peanut

741
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:42,720
brittle vanilla bean, kind of
like a a dusty Graham cracker,

742
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,800
almost like a cinnamon Graham
cracker rather than the honey

743
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,200
that it was really great.
And then the the zestiness

744
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,240
turned into, I think like the
creaminess on the nose and the

745
00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:57,640
zestiness turned into like a Key
Lime Pie that I like.

746
00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:03,080
Bob, you're right.
This is a really bright summary

747
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:08,040
kind of whiskey that has a depth
to it that helps it really stand

748
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,360
out.
I'm going to give it an 8 1/2 on

749
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,040
the pallet.
I think I'm going to come.

750
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,560
Down quite a bit on the pallet
here, Brad.

751
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,560
It's not that I dislike it, but
it's definitely a bit thinner

752
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,360
than I was expecting.
There's just not a lot of

753
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,800
viscosity here, even at this
proof.

754
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,240
It's a little more astringent in
the way that you feel it on your

755
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:29,080
tongue, like it has the thinness
of a lot of ethanol.

756
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,960
And for me it's a bit over oaked
as well.

757
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,760
And that kind of overrode
everything else on the palate.

758
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,440
There's some nice kind of subtle
notes here.

759
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,720
There's definitely stone fruit.
But ultimately for me, this is a

760
00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:44,360
step down from what we tried
last week with that seagrass

761
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,280
toasted.
I think it was going to be at

762
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,640
about a 7 out of 10 on the
palate, man.

763
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,920
So I, I actually moved up when
we're looking at the pallet, I

764
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,920
think that it's incredibly
complex and every, every sip

765
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,080
that I have, I'm getting
something new.

766
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,880
Now I totally agree.
I get some of that oak that I

767
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,800
think I give more towards the
finish.

768
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,440
So when we get to the finish
part, I'm gonna say oak, just

769
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,840
oak in your mouth.
But here, like in the mid

770
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,160
pallet, man, I think it's
bright.

771
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,560
I think it's fragrant.
I do get like toasted, like

772
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:24,800
those roasted sugar, like
candied nuts type thing along

773
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,720
with your stone fruit.
I think that it's just a lot of

774
00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:31,240
fun to let this thing evolve
with every sip.

775
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,840
This is one where I do want to
see like if I let this out for

776
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,200
maybe 10 minutes, what's going
to happen to it because I

777
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,120
actually think it's going to
evolve quite a bit.

778
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,480
If I was to give this a score, I
would say this is probably an

779
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,480
8.5, maybe edging towards it's a
nine, but I'll I'll be 8.5.

780
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,560
Lee is very obviously giving the
proper proper understanding of

781
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,520
this whiskey here.
Bob, I think on the finish Lee,

782
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,520
you're 100% right.
This gets really into a

783
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:05,240
beautiful oat territory.
The the lime flavor almost

784
00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:09,400
turned into a lemon zest for me.
The caramel sticks around.

785
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,040
It definitely dives into more of
a coffee bean kind of territory

786
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,720
that I'm like absolutely digging
on the finish.

787
00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:19,600
I'm a a little lower than the
pallet, but I I'm going to stick

788
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,240
it in eight out of 10 here every
now and then.

789
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:24,920
I'll talk about like how a
whiskey just has a really mouth

790
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,080
watering finish.
And it's not just that, I mean

791
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,720
that it's not tannic, like it's
not sucking the moisture out of

792
00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:34,600
your mouth.
But sometimes it really just

793
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,360
takes on a, a, a note of like
mineral water for me, where like

794
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,680
all the other notes fade away
pretty quickly and you're left

795
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,880
with the taste of like a fresh
cracked spring water that this

796
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,880
kind of has that.
It's not a bad thing.

797
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,120
I just wish more of these notes
lingered for me.

798
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,280
Lee, I'm totally with you.
There's definitely oak.

799
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,760
And again, I would say that it's
a kind of bitter oak on the back

800
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,880
for me.
There are no real fruit notes

801
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,800
for me.
There's no like sugary syrupy

802
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,640
notes hanging around.
It's just like minerality and

803
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,480
oak.
And I don't think it's great.

804
00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:13,920
And I definitely think, again,
I'm carrying on this theme from

805
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,600
last week.
I think this is definitely a

806
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,720
step down from last week, Brad.
I'm going to give it a 7 out of

807
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:22,880
10 again on the finish.
So this is one where I drop down

808
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,320
just a little bit.
But I do think actually that

809
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,560
oak, as you let it linger, I get
some really fun notes.

810
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:35,080
Like I get a little touch of
like mint, like oolong tea, some

811
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,760
dark chocolate in there.
Like I think you're getting some

812
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,880
of like those really refined
notes where it makes me want to

813
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:47,520
take another sip and again, kind
of see where I am and and that

814
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,720
really kind of I think that's a
really nice Topper to this

815
00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:53,400
experience, right.
Like you're kind of hanging in

816
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,880
this realm and you're not kind
of breaking out of a range of

817
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,040
flavors.
You're kind of like working in

818
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:03,120
this wavelength of flavors.
If I were to score this, I would

819
00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:05,960
give the finish about an 8.
Yeah, and as.

820
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:10,160
Far as balance goes, this is an
incredibly well balanced and

821
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,880
complex whiskey.
I'm going to jump back up to an

822
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,280
8 1/2 out of 10.
I've literally gone 88 and a

823
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,880
half, eight 8 1/2 so far.
As you can tell, I really like

824
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,360
this whiskey.
I think that it offers you a

825
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:30,720
whole heck of a lot as in terms
of its complexity, its flavors.

826
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,760
It has some classic bourbon
notes paired with a brightness

827
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,160
that I think is worth trying.
Yeah, I think.

828
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,480
That we established a long time
ago, Brad, that the worst

829
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,400
whiskey that Beryl has ever made
is still like a 7 1/2 out of 10

830
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,080
from us and would still get a
thumbs up and a recommendation.

831
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,400
And I think this is kind of in
that zone for me.

832
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,880
Like I, I would not by any
stretch call this the worst

833
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,720
barrel I've ever had, but I
would also say that like it is a

834
00:48:56,720 --> 00:49:00,160
solid whiskey that I am still
going to recommend and we're

835
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,960
just comparing it to some of the
best whiskeys we've ever had,

836
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,880
right?
So I'm going to give it a 7.5 on

837
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,600
the balance.
I think this is a well balanced

838
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,840
whiskey.
There's really nothing that is

839
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,960
like a sharp increase or decline
from category to category.

840
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,400
And yeah, I think that if
there's anything bad I can say

841
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,360
about it, it's just that it is a
pretty darn good whiskey.

842
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,080
And if that's your floor, then
you're doing pretty well.

843
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,840
Yeah.
So for balance, I actually go a

844
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,080
little bit higher.
So I think that you are getting

845
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:36,840
a really great consistent like
experience across as long as you

846
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,640
drink this whiskey.
I also kind of cheated and put

847
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,520
it on a rock and just kind of
saw what happened with it.

848
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:47,520
When you pop this, this bottle
you from the nose all the way to

849
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,880
the finish, you kind of know
what you're going to get.

850
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,920
And so for me, the balance is,
is probably a nine.

851
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,480
Like I think it's a a really
well balanced whiskey, like you

852
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,920
know what you're getting into.
And I also, I think I'm giving a

853
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,800
little bit of like love points
to barrel because it's, it's

854
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,120
what you're doing with so many
whiskeys, right?

855
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:16,040
Like you're creating nuance and
character and consistency with

856
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,400
arguably way too many whiskeys.
So if you were like, this is way

857
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,680
too many whiskeys, maybe you
give it like a six 'cause you're

858
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,680
like, no, they just tried to do
too much with too much.

859
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:29,280
But I think that they they
really kind of locked in where

860
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,200
they were with this whiskey,
what they wanted to do, even

861
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,560
though I think that's like way
too many barrels in a whiskey.

862
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,120
Well, and that takes us to value
where MSRP on this bottle is

863
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,640
$90.00.
Now, Brad, I was reading online

864
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,440
today, somebody reviewed this
bottle and in the comments

865
00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:49,480
someone posted like, hey, if you
just wait a couple weeks after

866
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,080
the new year, a lot of liquor
stores will put this on sale to

867
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,280
try to move it because no one
wants to be looking at a New

868
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,120
year bottle on the shelf in
July.

869
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,920
And that's kind of the
unfortunate drawback of this

870
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:02,160
product.
But like it's a huge boon to

871
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,400
consumers.
So if you can find this on sale

872
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,880
for 60-70 dollars, I think
that's like a 10 out of 10

873
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,040
value.
Even at 90.

874
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,920
And even given the fact that I
this is not my favorite barrel

875
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,520
product, you're talking about 18
different whiskeys being

876
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,880
manually blended to make a
barrel strength whiskey here.

877
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,520
There is nothing in the market
that would tell me that this is

878
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,800
overpriced.
So I'm still going to give it a

879
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,040
7 1/2 on the value.
Brad.

880
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,200
Yeah.
I I'm in the same spot, Bob.

881
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,600
I think this is a really
delicious whiskey.

882
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:39,080
It is not the best barrel
product we've had in this price

883
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,360
range, which like it seems like
pretty much all of barrel

884
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,560
products are in that like 85 to
$90.00 range.

885
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,560
They have their foundations
which is around like 50 to 60

886
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:55,960
and then they have some premium
stuff, but for 8590 dollars, I

887
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:00,000
think this is a really solid
value and especially as a as a

888
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,040
limited release product.
Yeah, I think you hit the nail

889
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,360
on the head, right.
I think that New Year when it

890
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,600
does go on sale, it's get it on
sale and and grab it while you

891
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,240
can.
I think as it initially comes

892
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:18,280
out, it's fun to have it, you
know, as the New Year's passing

893
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,160
like that January, February time
frame.

894
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:26,280
But I, I think that you, there's
a level of respect for the

895
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,240
amount of blending and work that
happens.

896
00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:31,920
But at the same time, like, is
it, you know, in that price

897
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,120
range, does it really fit?
So I totally agree.

898
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,520
I think 7.5 is super fair.
All right, Brad, where's that

899
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,280
bringing you out to?
I am.

900
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:44,840
Sitting at a 40.5 out of 50,
about five points lower than the

901
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,920
toasted seagrass last week.
But I mean, we're still talking.

902
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:57,240
I think before, I think I'm at
like a 34 out of 50 on the OR 34

903
00:52:57,240 --> 00:52:59,560
out of 40 on just the tasting
notes.

904
00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:03,520
Bob, this is just an incredible
whiskey.

905
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,160
Yeah, man, I'm just a little bit
lower than you.

906
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,960
I'm at a 37 1/2 out of 50, but
we're both still comfortably

907
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,960
into the zone where we start
recommending a product.

908
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,360
I do think if you want to just
go ahead and buy this sight

909
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,920
unseen, it's not a bad value.
If you want to plunk down, you

910
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,640
know, 15 to 20 bucks for a pour
at a whiskey bar, I would also

911
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,480
say that's totally justified.
Between Brad and I were

912
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,920
averaging a 39 out of 50 or 78
out of 100.

913
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:31,560
Lee, where are you coming out on
this one?

914
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,840
Yeah, so I actually.
Came out a little bit higher.

915
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:38,760
So I was at 40.5 and I think
that, you know, it's it's with a

916
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,720
caveat, right?
Like I do think that your oaky

917
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:46,960
notes your your more like
toasted oak nuttiness.

918
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,680
If you like those types of
whiskeys, this will do fine by

919
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,240
you.
If that's not the type of

920
00:53:53,240 --> 00:53:57,680
bourbon or whiskey, excuse me,
that you like, it's really not

921
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,160
going to work out.
And so that's really where you

922
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,800
you come out like I actually
happen to like those notes.

923
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:10,440
And so I tend to be a little bit
higher in in my level of like

924
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,080
interest with those pores.
Some of my friends absolutely

925
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:18,120
hate them and they're like, no,
I don't want to just be chewing

926
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,880
on oak when I'm drinking
whiskey.

927
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,720
So I think that's really for me
is like that tannic, oaky

928
00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:27,240
nuttiness.
If you love it, I would not that

929
00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:30,760
that like is out of balance, but
it's a little bit heavier here

930
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,040
and knowing that going into it,
great pour.

931
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,800
If you don't love it, maybe just
hold on until you can get it on

932
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,360
sale.
I mean once again.

933
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,480
Beryl continues to just knock it
out of the park.

934
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,760
And Brad, we try to find
thematic connections to our

935
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,600
movies a lot with our whiskey
pairings.

936
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,840
Obviously, this is a movie that
takes place at Chinese New Year.

937
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,160
Women is talking the whole movie
about New Year, New me, sign the

938
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,120
divorce papers, baby.
And so like we've got a New year

939
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,760
product.
I also think that given the fact

940
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,120
that there are 18 whiskeys from
8 different states all bottled

941
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,360
together, we truly have
Everything Everywhere all at

942
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,320
once in this bottle today.
Brad, you have outdone.

943
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:09,480
Yourself.
Thank you.

944
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,320
Well done.
Thank you, Robert.

945
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,480
Actually, thank you to Lee,
because you're the one that

946
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,880
picked it today.
This is a fantastic bottle.

947
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,640
Like we can't say enough good
things about Beryl.

948
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,080
Yeah, the new.
Year New you was where I was

949
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,840
going.
I didn't even think about like

950
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,360
how many.
That was incredible.

951
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,280
That just blew my mind.
That's why.

952
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,080
We make the big bucks here on
film and Whiskey Lee my mind

953
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,720
just.
Blew up in a Now I'm glitter.

954
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,480
Brad, what do you say we get
back into talking about the

955
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:35,680
movie?
Let's get.

956
00:55:35,720 --> 00:55:41,240
To it, Bob.
All right, everybody.

957
00:55:41,240 --> 00:55:48,920
That was a barrel New Year 2025,
a whiskey that continues to bear

958
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:53,040
the standard that has been set
for barrel craft spirits.

959
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,920
And I have to say, Bob, you have
been bearing the standard of

960
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,560
winning this year on 2 facts and
a falsehood.

961
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:07,280
Brad is going to try to stump
you Ball all right and what is

962
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,440
wrong?
2 facts and a falsehood. 2 facts

963
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:12,600
and.
A Falsehood is the part of the

964
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:16,320
show where Brad presents me with
three items as fact about the

965
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,840
making of this movie, one of
which is a complete lie.

966
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,280
Brad, you got me last week.
Man, that was a really, really

967
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,120
good one.
I had to just take a a shot in

968
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,960
the dark and I totally missed
everything.

969
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,520
Everywhere All At Once is one of
those films that because there

970
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:34,000
is so much going on in this
movie, I imagine that you could

971
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,320
just write three complete
falsehoods pretty quickly here.

972
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,640
So you might have a leg up on me
today, man.

973
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,960
That's actually.
I write 3 falsehoods every week

974
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,960
and just randomly decide if you
win or lose.

975
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,360
Oh.
I wouldn't be surprised,

976
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,920
honestly, Brad.
All right man, hit me with your

977
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,520
two facts and a falsehood in
fact number.

978
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,480
One directors and writers Daniel
Kwan and Daniel Shiner had

979
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:02,280
always intended the film to be
about the gaps that exist in

980
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,880
between familial generations,
but the fact that it was about a

981
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,880
mother came later.
Kwan added that the idea really

982
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,120
started to gel when they hit on
the concept of quote, putting my

983
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,480
mom in the matrix, End Quote and
starting to pitch it to

984
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,920
themselves and others that way.
I I hope that is a fact because

985
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,440
I literally said that in the
first half.

986
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,920
So that would really validate
all the things if we put our.

987
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,480
Mom in the Matrix, Yeah.
Fact number. 2 The appearance of

988
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:36,520
Jamie Lee Curtis's character of
Deirdre Beau Beard I I did not

989
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,240
know her last name until I just
read it.

990
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,880
We'll just call her Deirdre is
based on a stock photo of an IRS

991
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,520
worker.
The Photo by Mike Simons

992
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:50,000
captioned Kathleen Malone works
on tax return turns at the

993
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:54,920
Cincinnati Internal Revenue
Service Center shows an IRS

994
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:59,000
worker with identical hairstyle,
yellow turtleneck, light yellow

995
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,480
knit vest, glasses, and
necklace.

996
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:06,520
Fact #3 Directors and writers
Daniel Kwan and Daniel Scheinert

997
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,640
base the character of Waymond
partially off of their own

998
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:15,120
experience working with Daniel
Radcliffe in 2016's Swiss Army

999
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,680
Man, saying that his incessant
positivity on set was

1000
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,640
inspirational and sometimes
quite frustrating.

1001
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,120
All right.
Lee, the way this works is that

1002
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:29,920
I get to phone a friend here and
I always phone a friend, which

1003
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:34,120
it really favors Brad because if
I consult the guest and if we

1004
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:38,040
lose, I get 2 losses counted
against me, whereas if we win, I

1005
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,640
only get one victory.
So you better know what you're

1006
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,280
talking about.
Lee is my threat to you, Bob.

1007
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:47,120
I think you you should just be
on your own and and just just

1008
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:52,520
take 1L but but I will on this
piece of paper write down my

1009
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,440
guess.
OK, that's perfect because I

1010
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,720
just feel like I'm going to be
wrong.

1011
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,720
But I have a reason if I am
wrong for.

1012
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,680
OK, perfect.
I'll tell you what I'm thinking

1013
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,200
and I am not consulting you
today.

1014
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:11,160
So, Brad, 1V1 loss, all right?
I think number.

1015
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,160
One is true.
I I really want number one to be

1016
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,640
true, so I'm just believing and
hoping that number one is true.

1017
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:25,000
Usually when, when Brad writes a
falsehood, he's drawing on

1018
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,680
something from his, you know,
past views of a movie.

1019
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,680
And he is a big Harry Potter
fan.

1020
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:35,520
So I, I'm imagining Brad going
to their IMDb page, the Daniels,

1021
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,600
and seeing that they made a
movie called Swiss Army Man, and

1022
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:41,680
then it stars Daniel Radcliffe.
And so he writes #3 it's

1023
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:46,440
definitely got to be either two
or three and #2 could be a

1024
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,480
falsehood because he mentions
Cincinnati, which is not too,

1025
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,200
too far down the road from him.
We're talking about Ohio cities

1026
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,120
here.
So I'm, I'm pretty stumped.

1027
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,000
I am once again taking a shot in
the dark.

1028
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:04,600
Lee, I am going to say that
number 3 is the falsehood.

1029
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,640
But your face and Brad's
excitement tells me that it

1030
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,280
might be #2 I'm gonna go ahead
and lock it in.

1031
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:13,520
Brad.
Which is the falsehood?

1032
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:14,120
Wait.
Hold.

1033
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:18,000
On, I'm ready to reveal.
All right, let's see.

1034
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,880
Also had #3 yes.
OK, come.

1035
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:22,560
On please be correct.
Wow, look.

1036
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,120
At you guys go look at.
Us be wrong.

1037
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,160
Yeah, look.
The view are absolutely correct.

1038
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:33,040
That is the falsehood, yes.
Brad, what was your level of

1039
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,720
familiarity with the fact that
they did make a movie called

1040
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,160
Swiss Army Man prior to this?
I was.

1041
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,760
Familiar with the fact that they
made a movie called Swiss Army

1042
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,280
Man OK and that Daniel Radcliffe
was in that film and that's

1043
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,480
about it but like had.
You have you heard of that movie

1044
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:47,520
before?
No.

1045
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,400
Absolutely not.
OK, I.

1046
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,360
Actually, so I was just going
off of a feeling, which was this

1047
01:00:53,360 --> 01:01:00,760
idea that oftentimes actors and
actresses in those types of

1048
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,000
roles you like Harry Potter,
where you would think they're

1049
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,520
like actually great to work
with, are actually not great to

1050
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,400
work with.
Like I thought that number 2 was

1051
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,040
just oddly way too specific
where I loved it.

1052
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:18,040
And Bob, I agree with you.
I love the idea of and this

1053
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,080
Harkins back to actually one of
my mentors.

1054
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,720
His name was Daniel Kwan,
unrelated.

1055
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:27,240
Oh, wow, OK.
And and actually funny enough,

1056
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,080
worked with James Hong Hung in a
movie.

1057
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:34,240
And I just know that sometimes
like the actors that you you

1058
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,520
think are going to be like the
best, nicest people that you can

1059
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,880
work with.
Like are not actually, I heard

1060
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:44,280
that James Hong is one of the
nicest guys you can possibly

1061
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,320
work with.
Oh, that's great on set.

1062
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,400
So but Lee just has a.
Feeling that Daniel Radcliffe is

1063
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,640
an absolute Dick.
So that's what that's what we're

1064
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:52,720
saying here.
I bet you.

1065
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,680
He's not fun to work with, I'm
willing to bet.

1066
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,400
All right, well, that that libel
and defamation suit can get

1067
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,800
directed towards Reserve Bar,
not towards film and whiskey.

1068
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,240
That is not the official opinion
of this podcast, Brad.

1069
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,720
I'm going to claim my L or my W
rather this week.

1070
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,960
Only one victory.
I feel like I should get 2

1071
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,920
because I did it all by myself.
But that's that's not the rule.

1072
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,560
You do it all by yourself.
Every week I also really want to

1073
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,280
share a picture with you both
right now.

1074
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:22,840
I was going to ask.
You if you could pull up this

1075
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,240
picture.
Oh man.

1076
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:30,080
Look at this picture if you want
you.

1077
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:35,160
Can go.
On Google and just type in IRS

1078
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:40,000
agent Everything Everywhere all
at Once and it should pull up a

1079
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:44,920
picture a side by side of Jamie
Lee Curtis's character and the

1080
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:50,440
stock photo from Getty Images
that it's based on.

1081
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,400
It's incredible.
This is a.

1082
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,760
Fantastic.
While we're on the topic and and

1083
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,600
transitioning out of two facts
in a falsehood, one of the

1084
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,320
things I really loved about this
movie that I thought went unsung

1085
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:04,520
is both the set design and the
costuming and makeup for

1086
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,880
everybody in the movie.
They did a really great job of

1087
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:12,480
capturing like lower middle
class to poor people and their

1088
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:17,000
hairstyles and their clothing
and the general sense of grime

1089
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:18,640
that was all over that
laundromat.

1090
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:23,720
Not like not necessarily that it
was unsanitary, but just like

1091
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:27,400
the difficulties of working in
an old building where there's

1092
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,320
water damage.
Like I just it was it was the

1093
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,640
most subtle thing about the
whole movie, honestly, but it

1094
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,240
was really good.
Dude, they.

1095
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,440
Nail that element and they show
it of like something that was

1096
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:44,240
really beautiful in the 70s and
80s and now it's like 2022 and

1097
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:50,200
it still has a bit of a vibe,
but it's just well used, a

1098
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:55,240
little bit grimy.
And like, as somebody who lived

1099
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:59,400
in the inner city, did laundry
at a laundromat, they just

1100
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,400
absolutely nail the look of the
laundromat as well as the

1101
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,040
apartment.
In my research for two facts and

1102
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:11,320
a falsehood, one of the things
that Daniel Kwan wanted to base

1103
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:15,320
the apartment off of was all of
his Chinese like Auntie's

1104
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:19,280
apartments, he said.
And and he has said that after

1105
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,880
the movie came out, there are so
many Chinese Americans that have

1106
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:26,600
come up to men and been like
that apartment gave me

1107
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,280
flashbacks to my parents
generation.

1108
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,840
Well, and I'm going.
To say so I grew up in in a city

1109
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:37,880
that was like 50% Asian American
and I know those apartments

1110
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:41,360
really well.
So like the rice cookers that

1111
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,520
they're using how things are
stored.

1112
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,880
Like I just actually, for me, it
was like looking back into some

1113
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:53,000
of my favorite childhood moments
of like just running around some

1114
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,880
of my friends houses and, and
places and just being like I, I

1115
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,240
can still go back to that right
now when I go back to California

1116
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,280
and just being like, man, I, I
love how well those things are

1117
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,840
captured And it, it, if you
don't understand it, maybe it

1118
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:12,080
feels disconnected or, or like
not not real.

1119
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,360
All of that really felt real,
which is fun.

1120
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,080
Well, that's the.
Magic gosh, I'm going to get on

1121
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:20,720
the soapbox about the magic of
movie making, but like the the

1122
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,200
whole idea of set decoration is
that it has to look real enough

1123
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,600
to not be distracting, like it
has to look real enough that you

1124
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,640
don't notice it.
But then every now and then,

1125
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,280
they do such a good job of,
like, really pouring themselves

1126
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:38,920
into replicating a real world
environment that you, it kind of

1127
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,520
comes all the way back around.
Like, I totally noticed the sets

1128
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,360
in this movie, but I noticed
them because they evoke

1129
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,800
something in me that I've seen
in the real world, like the fact

1130
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,400
that they had to store people's
clothes in their apartment.

1131
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,560
And on the top shelf of one of
the bookcases, you just see a

1132
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,880
plastic bag, like, hanging off
the whole movie.

1133
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,920
It's like, yeah, that's how
people live, dude.

1134
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,080
Like, that's what a real
cluttered apartment actually

1135
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,240
looks like.
And I just couldn't go any

1136
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,240
further now that we've seen that
costume, Brad, without

1137
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:09,800
commenting on it also.
The character of Waymond saying

1138
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,240
doesn't don't the clothes look
happier up there?

1139
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,800
And you're not quite sure if he,
like, really believes in, like,

1140
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:20,080
Feng shui or if it's just the
fact that he put googly eyes on

1141
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,600
them and he wants that to mean
that they're happier.

1142
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,480
All right, guys, let's dive into
performances.

1143
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,480
We haven't really talked about
performances at all, which is

1144
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,560
crazy because we're an hour into
this podcast.

1145
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,440
Michelle Yeoh wins best actress.
It was a neck and neck race

1146
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,880
between her and Cate Blanchett
for the movie Tarr.

1147
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:41,600
Cate Blanchett gives an all time
great performance in that movie.

1148
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,440
And I think that Michelle Yeoh
gives a very, very great

1149
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,160
performance in this movie as
well.

1150
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:52,120
And I also don't like I I
wouldn't say her Oscar was

1151
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,920
undeserved.
I do think that because this

1152
01:06:54,920 --> 01:07:00,320
movie is a much more heartfelt
movie, it definitely gave all

1153
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,040
three of these actors an
opportunity to have like their

1154
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,040
big Oscari moments.
I have no complaints.

1155
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,880
They all paid it off man.
Like this movie wins 3 acting

1156
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,440
Oscars.
There's not a lot of movies that

1157
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:14,480
can say that well and I think.
The The challenge here is that

1158
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:18,200
all of these actors have been
working in genres that are like

1159
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:24,000
under represented when you look
at best film, but also some of

1160
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:28,880
your best actor, actress
supporting roles.

1161
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:33,680
And so this was really the one
moment that gave someone like

1162
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:39,000
Michelle Yeoh an opportunity to
truly be recognized for an

1163
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,800
entire body of work.
Yeah, That is really

1164
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,200
encapsulated in this movie,
right.

1165
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:50,280
Like there are really great like
leanings and nuances of who like

1166
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:55,320
her development as a person that
are expressed in this movie and

1167
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:59,760
really allow her to kind of show
the diversity of or, or the like

1168
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,760
full range that she is as an as
an actress.

1169
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,720
And, and I think so like when
you honor somebody like where

1170
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:11,360
you kind of see that full range
of that person through and

1171
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,360
through.
I think this was the one film

1172
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:18,800
that finally got her to a point
of like here's like everything

1173
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:23,319
that she kind of does manifested
and probably her one chance as

1174
01:08:23,319 --> 01:08:27,800
an actress to win best actress.
Like this is probably the one

1175
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,080
chance.
And I think about before I get

1176
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:34,680
off of my soapbox, I think about
like Jackie Chan and having done

1177
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:40,080
like so many just incredible
movies, but really winning a

1178
01:08:40,399 --> 01:08:43,399
lifetime achievement award from
the Oscars.

1179
01:08:43,399 --> 01:08:48,439
Because a lot of his movies
never reach like that level of

1180
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:54,160
visibility or intrigue that will
allow him to maybe win best

1181
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:59,479
actor as as an actual actor.
And I think the reason that

1182
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:04,319
Michelle Yeoh received so much
adulation for this movie and

1183
01:09:04,319 --> 01:09:10,240
deserved it is that she, like
with all of her experience as an

1184
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:14,040
actress, she is able to capture
it.

1185
01:09:14,399 --> 01:09:16,960
And this is something that, you
know, Bob, you and I probably

1186
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:22,359
experienced from a lot of the
Eastern European, you know, like

1187
01:09:22,359 --> 01:09:25,479
our parents generation that
lived in Eastern Europe,

1188
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:32,560
emigrated over here to the US.
And she captures that born

1189
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,479
somewhere else, but came to the
US in search of a better

1190
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:40,840
opportunity spirit of like
determination and ruggedness.

1191
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:45,560
And I'm never going to let
anything truly destroy me paired

1192
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,920
with I'm going to choose the
right thing to do because it's

1193
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,040
the right thing to do.
And, and like, I, I don't think

1194
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:56,480
I've ever seen a performance
capture that as well as what

1195
01:09:56,480 --> 01:09:58,840
Michelle Yeoh does here.
I remember.

1196
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:04,480
In 2022, lead to your point,
it's it's a role that's it's a

1197
01:10:04,480 --> 01:10:06,200
once in a lifetime role for her,
right?

1198
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,960
Because it allows her
physicality to be on display.

1199
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,480
Like there's fight choreography,
which she's amazing at.

1200
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,840
But in none of those movies does
she really get a chance to sink

1201
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:18,000
her teeth into really great
dramatic acting like this movie

1202
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,800
does.
And so on the best actor side of

1203
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:26,600
things that year, you have Tom
Cruise being left off the Top

1204
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,520
Gun Maverick list.
And I just remember thinking

1205
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,040
like, that's exactly what's
happening with Michelle, yo.

1206
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:35,240
It's like it's the perfect
mashup of everything Tom Cruise

1207
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,160
does.
And I'm glad that one of the two

1208
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,160
of them at least got recognized
for it.

1209
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:43,120
But to your point about this
being a once in a lifetime kind

1210
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,560
of role, I think we need to look
at Kiwi Kwan, who had an

1211
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,480
incredible story, like Hollywood
loves a good story.

1212
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:53,160
You know you, you may know him
as Short Round from Temple of

1213
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,160
Doom.
He was a working actor for a

1214
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,360
really long time and in the
years leading up to Everything

1215
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,680
Everywhere All at Once had
basically just returned to a

1216
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:04,680
normal life because he could
never find opportunities to act

1217
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:08,240
anymore.
And I don't know that there is a

1218
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:13,280
human being alive that would be
a more perfect fit for the way

1219
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,480
this character is written than
Kiwi Kwan.

1220
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,720
I, I wish him the best because
he's he's trying to carry some

1221
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:21,960
of this momentum into new movies
that are coming out.

1222
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:23,840
I think he has a movie coming
out like this week.

1223
01:11:24,440 --> 01:11:27,080
I don't know how many
opportunities he's going to

1224
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,920
continue to get.
But I think at the end of the

1225
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:35,680
day, what you're looking at here
is like an all time perfect

1226
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:40,800
marriage of actor to a role.
One and he as data in the

1227
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:44,000
Goonies actually inspired me to
just start trying to invent

1228
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,680
random crap at my house.
Like that was like the best

1229
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,000
thing ever.
And I think that what you've

1230
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:55,120
seen since then is now that he's
back in kind of the Hollywood

1231
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,080
limelight, he's using it so
effectively.

1232
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:02,400
And what I've actually loved to
see about him is post film

1233
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,880
really being like everyone's
favorite uncle, right?

1234
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:09,520
Like I, I think that like you
just see him on various red

1235
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:13,760
carpets just loving people.
Well, and it's it, it's part of

1236
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,440
what I love about him is like, I
almost feel like he was just

1237
01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:22,920
living his character well and
then stepped into the alpha

1238
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,440
character when he needed to,
right?

1239
01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:29,720
Like he showed how deep he could
get into that character.

1240
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:35,000
But he actually maybe is like
that loving, encouraging,

1241
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:39,920
incredible, like kind of beta or
secondary character most of the

1242
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,560
time.
And he actually can lean into

1243
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,240
that.
And now that he has a platform,

1244
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,000
he just wants to like love
everyone in Hollywood.

1245
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,760
Well, and, and I think that's
super cool.

1246
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:54,920
And I I think just showing what
he can do in film was super fun

1247
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,400
in this film.
Yeah, I mean.

1248
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:03,680
We we often talk about the
movies where it's like this is a

1249
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,480
great Tom Hanks performance, but
it's just Tom Hanks being Tom

1250
01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:09,480
Hanks, right?
And we can say that because we

1251
01:13:09,480 --> 01:13:14,680
have seen him in 100 movies.
I think that this movie is just

1252
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:21,040
Ki Hui Kuan being Ki Hui Kuan.
Like it just seems like he is an

1253
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:27,640
incessantly positive, I choose
joy over anything else kind of

1254
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:30,440
person.
And so when you watch him with

1255
01:13:30,440 --> 01:13:34,520
his, I think it was his Golden
Globes acceptance speech, might

1256
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:38,040
be one of the best speeches ever
given in Hollywood.

1257
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:42,000
He's incredible, man.
He is my MVP of the movie.

1258
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,760
I think that as great as
Michelle Yeoh is and she carries

1259
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,360
the movie like he's just
freaking knocking it out of the

1260
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,640
park.
And the the moment in the movie

1261
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:53,360
that really gets me to start
crying is when they're

1262
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,640
intercutting, you know, multiple
locations across universes.

1263
01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:01,440
But it's when he's pleading with
her to be kind and just, you

1264
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:03,920
know, you've got the cool
version of him, which is

1265
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,640
tailored after the movie in the
mood for love, saying the whole

1266
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,280
thing to her about like, you
know, you think you're a

1267
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,120
fighter.
I'm a fighter too.

1268
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:16,240
This is the way that I fight.
And she's stabbing him, you

1269
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,800
know, indicating how hurtful she
can be to him.

1270
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:22,680
And he's just like, receiving it
and withstanding it and

1271
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,040
continuing to be the rock of
that family.

1272
01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:28,160
And it's almost, I don't want to
call it a flaw.

1273
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,720
It's almost a flaw with the
movie that it peaks right there.

1274
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:35,160
Because then her emotional sort
of reunion with her daughter at

1275
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:39,160
the end of the movie, while
really good, doesn't quite get

1276
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:41,800
me as much as that one 1/2 hour
before did.

1277
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,840
And I think that might be a good
segue into talking about the two

1278
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:48,600
supporting actresses here,
Stephanie Hsu and Jamie Lee

1279
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,400
Curtis.
Jamie Lee Curtis wins the Oscar,

1280
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,920
gets quite a bit of pushback
after winning the Oscar because

1281
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,240
a lot of people thought that the
daughter should have won the

1282
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:01,120
Academy Award.
I think this is like a prime

1283
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:04,080
example of there's this thing
the Tony's do, Brad, where they

1284
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:07,640
have like best actor in a
musical, best supporting actor.

1285
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,280
And then there's a category
called best featured actor,

1286
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,720
which is for someone who just
comes in for like one or two

1287
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,440
scenes and freaking kills it.
I think we need one of those at

1288
01:15:15,440 --> 01:15:19,040
the Oscars cause Jamie Lee
Curtis absolutely deserved to be

1289
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:22,440
recognized for something.
But it, it's a, she's only in

1290
01:15:22,440 --> 01:15:26,960
the movie like 15% of the movie,
whereas Stephanie Sue is in like

1291
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,520
45% of the movie.
You know, yeah, almost.

1292
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:31,320
Like she's a supporting
character.

1293
01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:34,920
Like she supports the main
actors and actresses in the film

1294
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:37,480
so I guess I'm.
Wondering not not that you have

1295
01:15:37,480 --> 01:15:40,360
to choose between them.
I think they both obviously have

1296
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,440
a really good argument for why
they should be the one

1297
01:15:42,440 --> 01:15:47,280
recognized in this movie.
But Brad, like what do you do

1298
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:51,080
with a the daughter character
who is obviously not the lead

1299
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,520
but is in such a huge chunk of
the movie?

1300
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,200
Do would you consider that a
Best actress performance or is

1301
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:57,440
it?
Does it belong at supporting?

1302
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:04,920
Oh, it's, it's hard to flesh
that out because like, clearly

1303
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:09,000
this is Michelle Joe's movie.
Like, I don't think you can put

1304
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:13,760
Stephanie Sue in the role of
best actress.

1305
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:17,320
So sure, I I think she is a
supporting actress.

1306
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:22,480
I just think that the difference
is, are you going for a best

1307
01:16:22,480 --> 01:16:27,680
supporting role that is nuanced
and philosophical and kind of

1308
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:29,480
carries some of the
philosophical weight of the

1309
01:16:29,480 --> 01:16:31,400
film?
Or are you going to go for Jamie

1310
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:39,320
Lee Curtis, who is quite vast in
what she tries to do in this

1311
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:46,880
movie as far as like moving from
tired IRS agent to like pro

1312
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:53,040
wrestler in WWE And like that's
that's the the beauty of Jamie

1313
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:57,960
Lee Curtis's performance is the
spectacle of it more than what

1314
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:02,600
you're getting from joy in the
film, which is a much more

1315
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,160
nuanced performance.
So I'm just.

1316
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:07,920
Going to throw it all out and
say that Stephanie Shoe should

1317
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,360
have won best supporting
actress.

1318
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:16,000
I just think that Hollywood also
has a way of like making things

1319
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,320
right.
And I think that like, again,

1320
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:24,000
Jamie Lee Curtis has been in a
lot of beloved supportive roles

1321
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:28,640
that have never really given her
a stage to to win.

1322
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:30,800
And I think she was given that
here.

1323
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:35,200
And, and I think there's a
certain like homage that you pay

1324
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:40,920
to your long lasting actors that
they gave her here where, you

1325
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:45,680
know, Stephanie still has time
and opportunity to gain

1326
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:49,040
notoriety and, you know,
opportunity in in that type of

1327
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:53,320
role.
However, I think that her role

1328
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,800
is way more nuanced than we give
her credit for.

1329
01:17:55,800 --> 01:18:00,760
And maybe that's like my own, my
own experience, like having just

1330
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,600
grown up, you know, where I,
where I did.

1331
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:07,920
And, and I just think that that
understanding that plight of

1332
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,920
like that coming of age between
two cultures is super important.

1333
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:12,920
And I think that she nailed that
really well.

1334
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:18,520
Like that feeling disconnected
from both and, and struggling

1335
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:20,600
through that.
And then also playing the bad

1336
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:26,680
guy and doing that so well and
just being like, I give, I give

1337
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,480
no consequence to anything.
I'm just going for it.

1338
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:34,520
And so I, I think that she
should have just won and we we

1339
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,960
should have moved on.
But like, I think that it's

1340
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:41,680
great that, you know, Jamie Lee
Curtis could actually win.

1341
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:45,360
And, and this was again, her
only opportunity to win.

1342
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:49,120
I don't think she'll she'll find
another one because of just the

1343
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:54,080
role she typically takes.
But I think it was just a miss,

1344
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:58,560
a misplacement of that.
I think it's also fascinating

1345
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:07,240
that if you look at Stephanie
Sue's role, most movies about

1346
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:12,240
this subject matter would be her
as the main character, right?

1347
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:17,080
It would be about the young
person's journey to understand

1348
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:20,400
where they fit in a world where
they are both from another

1349
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:24,120
culture, but from the prevalent
culture that they live in.

1350
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,720
And, you know, the movie would
be about her.

1351
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:32,160
She would be the main character.
And so I, I'm curious if there

1352
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:35,120
was almost a little bit of like,
oh, well, yeah, we've seen that

1353
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:38,800
character before as the main
character in a lot of movies.

1354
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:42,880
And so because of that, paired
with the fact that we want to

1355
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:46,080
give Jamie Lee Curtis her dues
because, you know, Bob, you and

1356
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:50,280
I have said like from the 90s,
like and beyond True Lies.

1357
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,440
She's so good.
I'm a.

1358
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:54,520
Huge fan.
I'm such a huge fan.

1359
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,760
Like I, I don't want to take
anything away from her.

1360
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,440
No, because I agree.
With you, Lee.

1361
01:19:58,480 --> 01:20:00,400
You, you, you.
Can't, you can't take anything

1362
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,320
away from from her, but.
Like, again, roles like True

1363
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:08,080
Lies aren't going to give her
the place because of the type of

1364
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:12,520
action film and, and how that is
kind of appreciated within the

1365
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:15,760
Academy, right?
And so this was the the one

1366
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:19,640
opportunity we're all perfectly
connected and you could give her

1367
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:23,000
her due because she finally got
there.

1368
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:27,800
And and that's unfortunate for
Stephanie because I do think she

1369
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:34,480
plays the more poignant,
diverse, like range character.

1370
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:40,320
It's just timing and and who you
are, like within the context of

1371
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,080
the film, yeah.
And I.

1372
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:46,840
Think Jamie Lee Curtis wins it
when she and Michelle Yeoh

1373
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:49,000
finally are both like, broken
down.

1374
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:52,880
They're sitting outside the
laundromat and she just looks at

1375
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:54,200
her.
You know, Michelle Yeoh asks.

1376
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:57,520
What, Like, what did my silly
husband say to you and I?

1377
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:01,320
I love this, the dialogue here,
the script writing, like, they

1378
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:05,920
don't tell you what Wayman said,
but she just simply goes, yeah,

1379
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:10,200
I lost it when my husband gave
me my papers, like, and the way

1380
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:16,360
they interact there and they
it's just a perfect, beautiful

1381
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:21,600
mishmash of two really well
experienced actresses just

1382
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,000
nailing it on screen.
Yeah, it's it's.

1383
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:27,920
That global like exhale, right?
Like, you know, you know, when

1384
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:34,200
you go through like so much
anger or just just so much like

1385
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:38,680
conflict and after you're done,
you just kind of have that like,

1386
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,000
right.
Like they, they experience that

1387
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:46,520
together where they were enemies
the essentially the entire time.

1388
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:50,280
They are still kind of enemies.
And yet they find common ground.

1389
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:54,120
Yeah.
Lee, this is my favorite thing

1390
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:59,160
in the world because you and I
have now set the record easily,

1391
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:03,120
like far and away for most
amount of time on the film and

1392
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:07,200
whiskey podcast that Bob has not
gotten a word in edgewise.

1393
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:11,080
And I can like I can feel it
through the camera.

1394
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:13,760
His like readiness to jump in
here.

1395
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:17,880
So I just want to take another
like 30-40 seconds to keep him

1396
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,560
off of the audio, to just keep
it between you and I and say

1397
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:25,440
thank you like you have given
Film and Whiskey Nation a gift.

1398
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:26,000
We.
We.

1399
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:30,960
Clearly have plenty to say on
this film and I mean it's it is

1400
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:34,200
a lovely film and I will keep
talking so Bob cannot no just

1401
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:36,920
stop.
I just want to say that I'm

1402
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:40,240
continuing to craft my pitch to
the Academy to introduce the

1403
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:43,000
Best Featured Actor and Actress
award I support.

1404
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,560
It because then.
We get an Academy Award for

1405
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,400
Bradley Cooper in licorice pizza
talking about peanut butter

1406
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,960
sandwiches.
That's ultimately that's what

1407
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:54,240
this is all about, Brad.
Absolutely man.

1408
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:59,040
Also, I do think it's a
wonderful idea to add more

1409
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:03,240
awards to a broadcast show that
is already lambasted for being

1410
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:05,160
way too long.
I mean this is true.

1411
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:07,760
But the only thing that people
TuneIn for is to see famous

1412
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,200
people.
And as much as I love Rodger

1413
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:13,440
Deakins and his cinematography,
I feel like getting Leonardo

1414
01:23:13,440 --> 01:23:16,280
DiCaprio nominated for more
things is probably going to draw

1415
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:17,760
more eyeballs.
Yeah.

1416
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:20,320
But that is you.
You're not wrong there, all

1417
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:21,600
right.
Guys, let's get into our last

1418
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:22,920
segment of the day, which we
call.

1419
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,080
Let's make it a double.
We're near the.

1420
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,480
End of the episodes of things
listening to the film and

1421
01:23:28,480 --> 01:23:30,760
Whiskey show.
Let's have another film with

1422
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:32,200
this one.
Even if it's struggling.

1423
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:33,560
It's the final segment of the
day.

1424
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:35,800
Now let's make it a double.
Let's make it a.

1425
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,600
Double is the part of the show
where we pick a movie to pair up

1426
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:40,800
with this one to make the
perfect double feature.

1427
01:23:41,480 --> 01:23:44,240
Brad I I think I am just going
to go ahead and continue my

1428
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,800
Matrix thing here.
I have a number of movies that I

1429
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:48,480
wrote down.
I, I talked about a lot of them

1430
01:23:48,480 --> 01:23:51,240
in the first half.
There's definitely references.

1431
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:53,760
I, I think I mentioned earlier
to a movie called in the mood

1432
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:55,400
for Love.
I think that'd be a cool pairing

1433
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:57,360
with this.
I think this movie borrows

1434
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,480
pretty heavily from inception
with the way that it talks about

1435
01:24:00,480 --> 01:24:03,320
like, what's the thing?
You the totem.

1436
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:06,040
You have to have your thing that
reminds you that you're in and

1437
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,440
then just like pairing that with
let's make it silly.

1438
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,760
So we're like ripping chewing
gum off desks.

1439
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:14,200
There's a lot of pairings you
can make here, but hearing that

1440
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:18,120
the directors use the matrix as
their ultimate influence, I

1441
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:19,560
think that's my pairing today,
Brad.

1442
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,800
I am.
Going to go way off the beaten

1443
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:26,280
path for what anybody might
think I would choose here.

1444
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,880
I I haven't had a chance to
really dive into it.

1445
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:34,680
I I hinted at it in the intro.
I think the reason I love this

1446
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:39,800
movie so much is that it is an
extraordinarily emotional

1447
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:44,200
examination of the power of
human choice.

1448
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:51,800
That when when you consider that
everything, everywhere all at

1449
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:56,120
once is a possibility, and that
when you reach into that

1450
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:59,040
possibility, everything feels
meaningless.

1451
01:24:59,960 --> 01:25:04,320
In the middle of all of that,
Michelle Yo's character realizes

1452
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:08,920
that if I can do anything, I
want absolutely anything in the

1453
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:14,240
world.
Then from that mass chaos, the

1454
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:21,040
solidity of a choice that it it
it goes from being chaos and

1455
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:27,040
anything into one singular
reality is what makes meaning in

1456
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:29,680
the world, what brings people
purpose.

1457
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:35,800
I think that this film, just
like stands apart at giving you

1458
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:39,680
how important it is that we make
good choices and that our

1459
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,840
choices can truly change the
world around us.

1460
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:46,720
And so like, with that specific
theme in mind, I'm actually

1461
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,040
going to pair this movie with
Schindler's List.

1462
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:55,600
I, I think that at the very core
of Schindler's List, you have a

1463
01:25:55,600 --> 01:26:00,200
man who could have chosen to go
along to get along, who could

1464
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:05,120
have made billions and billions
of Reichmarks, right?

1465
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:10,520
Like he could have become one of
the wealthiest individuals in a

1466
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:15,320
alternate, you know, right,
Third Reich universe, and yet he

1467
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:21,040
chose instead to protect those
less fortunate than him, protect

1468
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:24,240
people who were Public Enemy
number one at the time.

1469
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:29,400
And because of those choices,
you get a powerful revelation of

1470
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,680
what could be true.
And so I, I, I think that

1471
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:38,160
weirdly they both have a similar
theme in the core underpinnings

1472
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:42,800
of the like philosophical bent
of the movies, I think.

1473
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:48,360
That your thematic pairing is
really artful and I don't want

1474
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,200
to just come in here and
undercut it.

1475
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,920
But I will say that in the same
vein as last week's pairing of

1476
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:58,240
Creed with $1,000,000 Baby,
there is a correct order to

1477
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:03,480
watch these two movies.
And I cannot imagine after

1478
01:27:03,480 --> 01:27:06,520
finishing Schindler's List,
you're probably thinking to

1479
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:11,240
yourself, man, do I need a
palate cleanser and the the

1480
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:16,040
early pan of the camera over to
the butt plug shaped trophies.

1481
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:19,200
I think will will definitely
help lighten the mood a bit,

1482
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:23,320
right?
And honestly, like we haven't

1483
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:28,520
talked about it, but just the
the cinematography of

1484
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:31,760
Schindler's List and how
beautiful it is leading directly

1485
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:35,880
into that opening shot from
Everything Everywhere but we

1486
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:38,200
haven't mentioned it.
I couldn't get away from this

1487
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:42,080
episode without saying it.
What a freaking shot, dude.

1488
01:27:42,440 --> 01:27:46,080
Like the mirror showing them
doing karaoke, the door slams

1489
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:48,920
the mirror adjust and then the
camera goes through the mirror.

1490
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:54,040
Oh dude.
All right, Lee, we've got some

1491
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:56,080
weird ones today.
What's your pairing with this

1492
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:57,160
movie?
All right, guys.

1493
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:57,840
So.
I quit.

1494
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:00,880
I mean, how do you, how do you,
how do you come in after

1495
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:09,040
Schindler's List?
Wow, man, I just have to rethink

1496
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,240
life at this point.
So give me give me 5 minutes.

1497
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:17,040
No, I think that how I was
approaching this was actually in

1498
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:20,160
two ways.
Do you get something that Bob,

1499
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:24,680
to your point, something that
explores kind of the multiverse

1500
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:28,520
and, and just kind of like what
if life isn't life and or what

1501
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:32,120
if life is disconnected?
What does that look like or do

1502
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:37,720
you explore really like the
early versions of some of these

1503
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:39,760
actors?
I think we've talked about like

1504
01:28:40,440 --> 01:28:45,280
like really incredible
experiences that they've had

1505
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,320
acting and and really wowing
people.

1506
01:28:49,480 --> 01:28:54,320
I'm gonna go kind of funny and,
and I mentioned it before, I'm

1507
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:58,600
gonna go straight Goonies.
And and the reason I want to do

1508
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:06,920
that is I think that funny
enough we see Kihu Kwan's like

1509
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:12,560
just whimsy in that film.
And I love that you see that

1510
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:17,680
same whimsy in this film.
And I, I think that like you

1511
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:20,640
have to think like as an actor
who's gone through the throes

1512
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:27,400
for now, like 40 years later, 35
years later and, and still

1513
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:33,280
giving that spirit that kind of
manifests in such a fun way.

1514
01:29:34,440 --> 01:29:37,440
At the same time, like this is
like a group of kids that wants

1515
01:29:37,440 --> 01:29:39,920
to make their whole world
better, right?

1516
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:43,160
Like they're at this impasse.
And I think everything that we

1517
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:48,440
explore within everything is or,
or half of what we explore and

1518
01:29:48,440 --> 01:29:51,680
everything is like, there are
these like major milestone

1519
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:56,600
moments in your life that create
like these very like, like

1520
01:29:56,600 --> 01:30:01,040
detriment, not detrimental, but
like very impactful changes to

1521
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:06,320
what could be.
And that whole film is to create

1522
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:10,640
a, a new, a new path, right?
Let's, let's find the treasure.

1523
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,440
Let's save our homes, let's stay
together.

1524
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:18,240
I just I love that connection
and that fun that occurs in that

1525
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:19,760
film.
All right, so we've.

1526
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,360
Got the Matrix, Schindler's List
and the Goonies.

1527
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:25,200
What a wild and diverse
selection today.

1528
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:30,520
Just watch those. 3 movies all.
Right, Let's Make It a Double

1529
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:33,000
was brought to you by Blackwood
Distilling Company.

1530
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,800
No matter what film you pick to
pair this up with, you can

1531
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:37,960
always make it a double with
Blackwood.

1532
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,960
You can.
Drink Blackwood anywhere,

1533
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:46,280
anytime, all at all.
At all at once guys, let's give

1534
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:49,360
this movie some final scores.
I am for sure the low man on

1535
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:51,640
this movie.
When I first saw it, I gave it

1536
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:53,280
like a nine.
When I saw it the second time I

1537
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:56,040
was like it's between an 8 and
an 8 1/2 because there's

1538
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:58,440
definitely flaws.
This time around guys, I came in

1539
01:30:58,440 --> 01:31:00,640
here and I was about to give
this movie a 7.5.

1540
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:07,000
I think you've talked me up to
an 8 because the last it's, it's

1541
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:08,960
really like the last 30 minutes
of this movie.

1542
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:13,160
And I think the first 15 ish
minutes of the movie are perfect

1543
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:16,960
film making.
I really do think you got to cut

1544
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:21,000
15 minutes out of the middle for
this to become a 10 out of 10

1545
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:23,880
for me.
But you walk out of the theater

1546
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:26,600
on such a high note that it
really does kind of cover a

1547
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:29,480
multitude of sins in the middle.
I'm going to give it an 8 out of

1548
01:31:29,480 --> 01:31:34,360
10, Brad.
Yeah, I I think that for me, a

1549
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:40,880
10 out of 10 movie often has to
dive deep into some element of

1550
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:50,600
what it means to be a human in
honest, raw and enlightening

1551
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:53,720
ways.
And I think this movie does that

1552
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:59,400
in freaking spades.
The watching it this time

1553
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:03,480
through I got done and was like,
this might be like a top five

1554
01:32:03,480 --> 01:32:09,080
movie all time for me.
Wow, I really absolutely love

1555
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:14,400
this movie.
I spent $20 on Amazon Prime to

1556
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:16,440
make sure that I owned it
forever.

1557
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:19,320
I'll probably buy a Blu-ray copy
at some point.

1558
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:24,080
This is a movie that I think
brings so much value to the

1559
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:28,080
world of cinema.
And I, I remember one of the one

1560
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:33,360
of the takeaways I had the first
time I watched it was that this

1561
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:39,040
is a experience that like could
only exist in the medium of

1562
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:41,880
film.
Like this isn't a novel, it's

1563
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:46,920
not ATV show.
It's not something you see on

1564
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:50,680
YouTube as like some YouTube
creator like that.

1565
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:55,280
There's no other medium that
could portray the story that is

1566
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:59,640
trying to be told here as
perfectly as film.

1567
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:05,080
And so I think that on so many
levels, this movie succeeds even

1568
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:07,040
given like that.
Like there's elements of the

1569
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:09,440
film that I'm like, oh, you
didn't have to go there.

1570
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:12,880
But even with that, I think the
depth of what it is trying to

1571
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:17,040
convey about the human
experience is so overwhelmingly

1572
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:22,400
accurate and powerful.
Like, like even down to the at

1573
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:27,240
the end of the film, Evelyn has
an honest conversation with her

1574
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:32,680
daughter Joy and is like, hey,
like, like I still think that

1575
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:34,680
there are problems in our
relationship.

1576
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:39,320
I, I still think that there are
issues that are real in your

1577
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:44,920
life and I care and love you
enough to be honest about them.

1578
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:48,560
And I it's things like that that
I just love about this film is

1579
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:53,120
that it doesn't whitewash the
reality of what it means to be

1580
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:54,760
in relationship with one
another.

1581
01:33:55,000 --> 01:34:00,320
It is brutally honest about the
fact that to be human is to be

1582
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:05,760
flawed, but it is to be awesome
and amazing and beautiful.

1583
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:09,720
And and the choices that we make
to build relationships with one

1584
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:13,080
another, where we are honest
with our feelings, where we're

1585
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:17,160
honest with where we are at in
relationship with one another,

1586
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:22,440
it it's the most beautiful thing
that separates humans apart from

1587
01:34:22,440 --> 01:34:27,720
any other aspect of creation.
Lee, once again, you have to

1588
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:29,040
follow that up.
What?

1589
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:30,640
What are you thinking about this
movie, man?

1590
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:32,960
I just need to.
Constantly go before Brad

1591
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:35,640
because I think what Lee's over
here like.

1592
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:42,120
Rakakuti was great man.
Rakakuti, Rakuti, he was great.

1593
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:43,880
Actually, I love that part.
It's.

1594
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:47,640
So good because they're like.
Ratatouille and he's like no

1595
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:53,760
Ratatouille.
So I actually I for the most

1596
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:59,160
part, I agree with Brad.
I think that like it really like

1597
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:04,440
leans into the human condition
and I think it it welcomes the

1598
01:35:04,440 --> 01:35:08,880
breaking of film convention for
the sake.

1599
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:12,440
Again, I, I said this earlier, I
think it breaks film convention

1600
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:17,000
almost to shock you into saying
this is not going to be the film

1601
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:20,000
that you expected.
We're going to take you on a

1602
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:21,720
journey.
And I think that some of the

1603
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:25,440
things that we find shocking are
almost those things that just

1604
01:35:25,440 --> 01:35:28,680
kind of pull you out of this is
the film that you were

1605
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:32,240
expecting.
However, like one of the things

1606
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:35,680
that I really think about when I
think about like a perfect film

1607
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:41,040
or great film is can I watch it
kind of over and over again or

1608
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:44,120
like, if it's on, will I, will I
turn this on?

1609
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:47,600
And I, and I think that's one of
the things that this film misses

1610
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:52,200
like this has to, this is a film
that needs all of my attention

1611
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:54,880
in order for me to truly love
it.

1612
01:35:55,040 --> 01:36:00,400
And so when I look at this film,
like I've watched parts of it

1613
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:02,640
over time.
So I've probably actually seen

1614
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:05,400
this film 9 or 10 times when you
think about parts.

1615
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:09,840
But when I watch parts of it, I
almost turn it off towards

1616
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:14,160
something else because I need to
be fully engaged in this movie

1617
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:19,320
to truly kind of respect and
appreciate the film that it is.

1618
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:25,400
And so for me, this ends up
being like a 8.5 leaning towards

1619
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:29,840
9 because I, I think that it's
one of those that I truly have

1620
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,760
to sit down.
And you kind of like, I think

1621
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:35,320
Schindler's List is actually
another great example, right?

1622
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:41,000
You do need to sit down and you
need to be fully like immersed

1623
01:36:41,440 --> 01:36:47,280
in that film experience in order
to like just fully recognize

1624
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:49,920
kind of the beauty of what it
is.

1625
01:36:50,440 --> 01:36:54,520
And this is another one of those
films where I just, I have to

1626
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:58,920
put pause on life in order to
love this film.

1627
01:36:59,440 --> 01:37:02,960
And the films that I would say
are perfect are the ones that

1628
01:37:03,440 --> 01:37:08,560
are masterpieces and I can get
it, can get a part of my

1629
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:09,760
attention.
And I love it.

1630
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:12,040
We know what.
You're really saying, you're

1631
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:16,640
saying I couldn't watch it on my
phone, therefore 8.5, yeah.

1632
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:20,120
No, I think movie this this is
AI mean for me.

1633
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:24,120
This is a strong nine right like
I I I love every aspect of this

1634
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:28,560
film.
I just think that when you in

1635
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:34,000
the wrong time frame or like if
you touch a part of it, it makes

1636
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:40,160
no sense and it's almost a
bother versus like additive to

1637
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:44,080
your, your time, right.
And I, so I, I think that the

1638
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:47,280
films that I always would say
are like the perfect film are

1639
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:52,080
incredible films.
And anytime I see them, even if

1640
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:56,600
I grab 20 minutes of it, I'm in.
Yeah.

1641
01:37:56,920 --> 01:38:00,960
We've talked often on the show
about the Sunday afternoon dad

1642
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:06,040
cable movie and like that like
like a Shawshank type of film

1643
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:10,240
was like great film.
And you can watch 10 minutes of

1644
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:11,800
it.
You can watch a one minute, you

1645
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:16,360
know, YouTube reel of it and
like you're like, yeah, oh, man,

1646
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:18,160
what a great movie.
Yeah, but.

1647
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:22,520
I have to, I have to be in like
Shawshank is 100% in.

1648
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:27,680
To your point, if I get a little
moment of Shawshank in, if I get

1649
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:31,360
5 minutes of this film, I'm
like, discombobulated, Yeah.

1650
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:34,440
Well, and that, and that's like
I said, I sat down the other

1651
01:38:34,440 --> 01:38:37,640
night having seen the film twice
before and I was like, all

1652
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:40,920
right, it's a little late.
I need to, I'm busy the next few

1653
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:43,680
days.
I should just get like an hour,

1654
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:46,760
45 minutes to an hour in so that
I don't have as much to watch

1655
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:48,480
tomorrow or the next day.
You can't.

1656
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:50,280
And I I.
Couldn't I?

1657
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:52,240
Like, I was absolutely sucked
in.

1658
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:56,480
Haley came downstairs at like
1145 and was like, dude, are you

1659
01:38:56,480 --> 01:38:58,840
coming to bed?
Like, what's what's going on

1660
01:38:58,840 --> 01:38:59,640
here?
And I was like.

1661
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:01,800
I freaking.
Love this movie.

1662
01:39:03,440 --> 01:39:04,680
All right.
Well, we want to say thank you

1663
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:07,320
to Lee for joining us.
Dude, it's always a pleasure to

1664
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:12,000
see you give our listeners your
32nd elevator pitch for Reserve

1665
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:13,840
Bar.
Why should we be using Reserve

1666
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:15,760
Bar and where can we find you
specifically?

1667
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:18,240
Yeah, so.
For Reserve Bar, you can find

1668
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:22,760
rare and unique spirits as as
well as some limited time

1669
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:27,200
releases from some of your
favorite brands anytime.

1670
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:30,160
And So what we hope is that we
can give you your things that

1671
01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:33,480
you don't have to wait in line
for outside of your favorite

1672
01:39:33,480 --> 01:39:35,520
liquor store.
Still love your liquor stores.

1673
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:38,440
But some of those things that
are hard to find, we try to make

1674
01:39:38,440 --> 01:39:40,000
them a little bit easier for
you.

1675
01:39:40,440 --> 01:39:43,480
And if you need to give
something to somebody else in a

1676
01:39:43,480 --> 01:39:47,040
different state, we do some
great gift ordering to deliver

1677
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:51,680
it to their door with engraving.
That was my my pitch for reserve

1678
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:53,920
bar.
For me, for me, I'm just living

1679
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:55,960
life.
I, I as part of reserve bar.

1680
01:39:55,960 --> 01:40:00,080
I love picking incredible single
barrels for the company.

1681
01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:04,160
Just came back from picking a
Woodford Reserve private

1682
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:07,760
selection and a 1792 foolproof
barrel.

1683
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:10,000
That thing is going to be
bonkers good.

1684
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:13,760
If you want to find me, you can
actually talk to me on

1685
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:16,960
Instagram.
I am managing at Reserve Bar

1686
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:20,080
Spirits.
So I am the guy who responds to

1687
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:21,280
you.
If you want to find me

1688
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:27,040
personally, I'm at Lee Diaz, 24
on Instagram on the side just

1689
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:30,080
for funsies.
I love the city I grew up in in

1690
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:32,960
LA.
And so I have the AT History of

1691
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:37,960
LA account, which just shows
just these beautiful historic

1692
01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:41,680
historical photos of the city I
grew up in.

1693
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:45,120
And I just hope it kind of
manifests in everybody just

1694
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:48,360
loving a little piece of LA and
Hollywood and everything that we

1695
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:50,440
talk about here.
Lee, what?

1696
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:54,840
We've talked about this before.
What is like your ultimate LA

1697
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:56,520
movie?
Oh.

1698
01:40:56,520 --> 01:41:01,480
Gosh, I think my ultimate LA
movie, I mean, I have to go for

1699
01:41:01,480 --> 01:41:07,160
LA Confidential, but I will say
the movie that encouraged me to

1700
01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:10,840
move back to LA the last time I
was in LA Now I live in Dallas

1701
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:14,240
again, but was actually La La
Land.

1702
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:19,120
How do you go?
I was out, I was out in LA

1703
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:23,360
watching that movie.
Actually, I took my mom to the

1704
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:24,920
movie.
She never goes to the movies.

1705
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:29,480
And so I, I, we went on like a
son and mother date and I took

1706
01:41:29,480 --> 01:41:31,960
her to watch La La La La Land
and I was like.

1707
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:38,240
That that's.
A That's a powerful statement.

1708
01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:40,360
Right now you are in.
Lockstep with Brad, man.

1709
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:41,840
Yeah, I.
Freaking love.

1710
01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:46,680
That movie, it was a.
Beautiful example of how like

1711
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:51,320
just art and and film can
inspire us to do incredible

1712
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:53,200
things.
And literally it encouraged me

1713
01:41:53,200 --> 01:41:56,640
to move back to Lai.
Was back home for a few years

1714
01:41:56,640 --> 01:42:02,280
and that was just such a gift
and it was encouraged by film.

1715
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:06,400
All right guys, it is a nine out
of 10 on average from all three

1716
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:09,200
of us here on Everything
Everywhere All at Once.

1717
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:10,560
But we like to know what you
think.

1718
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:14,320
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1719
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:18,080
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1720
01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:21,400
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1721
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:24,880
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the end of every single one of

1722
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:27,720
our show notes.
Next week we are looking at a

1723
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:29,200
much more divisive film than
this one.

1724
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:34,120
Brad, it's 2019's Joker.
I can't wait to dive into that

1725
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:37,400
one with you, man.
So join us next week for some

1726
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:40,640
Joaquin Phoenix.
But until then, I'm Bob Book.

1727
01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:42,680
I'm Brad.
G and we'll.

1728
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:43,400
See you next time.