Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind / Jack Daniel's Single Barrel Select Barrel Proof

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Robots radio presents.
In 2004 director, Michel gondry

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and star.
Jim Carrey explored, the mystery

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of memories in 2020.
We return to Tennessee for a

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top-shelf offering.
The film is the Eternal Sunshine

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of the Spotless.
Mind the whiskey is Jack

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Daniels, single barrel.
Barrel proof select and we'll

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review them both.
This is the film and whiskey

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podcast.
Welcome to the film and whiskey

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podcast, where each week, we
review a classic movie and a

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glass of whiskey.
I'm Bob book, I'm gonna need to

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get into the whiskey right now
if I'm gonna get through this

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episode.
Oh dang.

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Oh dang!
What's your name sir?

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I'm Brad G.
And this week, we are looking at

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the And for film Eternal
Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

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glucose.
How happy is the blameless

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vestals lat The world forgetting
by the world for God.

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Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless
Mind.

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Each prayer accepted and each
wish resign

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haven't heard that one, it's
lovely.

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I just thought it would be
appropriate, Maybe Brad.

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It sounds like I can already
tell that you did not like this

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movie.
And before you even answer me, I

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want to give a little background
about our podcast.

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Maybe this is the first time
you've ever tuned in to the film

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and whiskey podcast.
The whole conceit of this

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podcast is that I grew up
watching tons and tons of

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movies.
I'm a huge movie nerd.

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My friend, Brad has watched a
lot of movies in his day but he

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hasn't seen most of the movies
that were going to watch on this

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podcast because I created a list
of films that I think every film

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lover should watch, whether
they're good or they end up.

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Being something that you don't
like.

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And so we're kind of putting
Brad through the ringer as we

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watch all of these movies.
And one of the films that I

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purposely put on this list was
2004's, Eternal Sunshine of the

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Spotless Mind, Brad initial
reactions.

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Well, you did not like this
movie, first off, I want to say

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that.
You make it sound like I'm an

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uncultured swine.
And I just want to ride, just

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want to remind filmin, whiskey
nation that I gave the Tree of

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Life, a nine and a half hour,
Out of 10.

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So it's funny you say that Brad
because this movie that we're

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reviewing.
Today is actually one of I'd say

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like five movies on the whole
list that I have been most

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excited to hear what you think
about.

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Not that I thought you were
going to like it necessarily but

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when we did the tree of life it
was like our eighth episode

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ever.
I think and I was like Brad is

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going to hate this movie with a
burning passion and over the

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course of that episode.
We really hashed out some of

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like the the deeper themes of
that movie and you And it came

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to a place where you were like,
okay I am okay with this like

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really artsy Cinema and ever
since that movie I've never

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really been able to predict what
you're going to think of some of

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the films on this list and so
Eternal Sunshine is one of these

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ones that I was like, it's out
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It's surreal, it's funny at
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It's really sad and depressing,
and a downer at Parts.

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Brad might love this movie, or
he might really, really hate

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this movie.
So, I'm excited to talk about it

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today.
Brad Bob, I have two things to

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say.
Say to all that first off, I'm

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glad there's still some mystery
in our relationship.

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I agree.
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I think, my biggest frustration
with this movie, and this is

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honestly, like, my biggest
indictment, is that it's just

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boring, it's not an entertaining
film in any way.

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It doesn't cause me to think
more deeply about the world

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around me.
It's just kind of a boring

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movie.
That doesn't really take me

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anywhere and I get to the final
In the movie and in my head I'm

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just thinking to myself man.
If they just had open

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conversations during their
relationship, they would have

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been able to avoid all this
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Yes, that's the brat.
Ha ha, ha.

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All right, we're going to get
into it because I think you're

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missing the point of the movie
already.

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But before we get there, we got
to go to one of our standard

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segments.
Our favorite segment, which is

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called, Brad explains.
And this is where Brad breaks

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down the plot of the movie that
he's just watched sometimes for

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the first time.
Right.

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I'm going to ask you to refrain
as much as possible from giving

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us a snarky Braddock's planes
but please walk us through the

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plot of this movie as best as
you can.

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The Eternal Sunshine of the
Spotless, Mind is a movie about

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two.
People played by Jim Carrey and

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Kate Winslet who have had a I
would say a few years long

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relationship, they don't really
give an exact timeline, but it

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seems like they've dated for a
few years and they have a bad.

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Break up.
And after this break up, Kate

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Winslet who's a bit of an
impulsive, you know,

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decision-maker decides to erase
her memory completely of Jim

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Carrey.
And in doing this, Jim Carrey

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runs into her realizes that she
has no memory of him with the

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help of some friends.
And he decides to also erase his

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entire memory of her.
But in the process of having his

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memory erased, he realizes that
he doesn't Want to forget her.

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And so he tries to hide her in
the recesses of his mind in old

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old memories of him as a child
or a teenager.

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And through this process, he
begins to know her more.

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He gets to know her better and
by the end of it he is able to

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implant a bit of her in his
brain so that he can reconnect

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with her in the real world.
They reconnect realize that

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there's a need for open
communication and We at the end

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of the movie, they resumed their
relationship.

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That was a really good summary
of the movie.

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Brad, thank you for breaking
that down, like that.

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Thanks, man.
I just, I just want you to know

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that I actually do.
Watch these movies.

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I'm really glad to hear that.
I'm glad I'm not the only one.

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So this movie comes out in 2004,
it's released by Focus Features

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if you that sounds familiar to
you, it's because, well, a there

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are major producer of indie
films but also because just a

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few weeks ago, we talked about
Lost in Translation which was

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also a movie that was released.
East by Focus Features just a

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year before and I do see like a
lot of similarities in what

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you're talking about Brad and
how this movie, it definitely

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takes its time.
Like its it has a rhythm of its

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own it's definitely like there's
some parts where it's cut really

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quickly.
There are other parts where it's

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kind of jumping around in time
and you're not sure what's going

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on, but it's unconcerned with
the rhythms I think and I

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couldn't help but think about
some of the comparisons to Lost

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in Translation because that was
a really apparently very popular

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in Movie from the early 2000s
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more.
So I think in my experience

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might just be unique or like an
anecdote or whatever, but I

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think if you asked around to
people our age, this is one of

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those movies that it wasn't a
huge success at the box office,

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but like everyone I know of a
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It seems like and it seems to
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people in our age group.
Brad, I don't know.

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Where are you familiar with this
movie before you watched it?

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This Time around?
Yeah, I had heard of the movie,

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you know.
It's been on Netflix for a

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little while.
I don't think it's on there

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anymore but it's one of those
movies that I saw previews of

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and I was like oh, that looks
kind of interesting.

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Like the idea of a racing
somebody completely from your

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memory.
That is an intriguing premise.

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So yeah, sure, I'd heard of it.
I knew the premise and I was

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intrigued by it, but then I
watched it and I realized that

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it's just not a good move.
All right, so we're going to get

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into that in a second but I want
my first point against you to be

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this Brad, I'm really surprised
that you were bored by the

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movie.
I think if anything I was

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expecting to say like I was
confused by the way, it jumps

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around in time or I didn't like
the sort of surrealistic

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elements to it.
This movie was written by a guy

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named Charlie Kaufman, who has
become a really famous writer in

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Hollywood.
He only produces, you know, a

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script every few years and
they're always these really

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trippy mind-bending, kind of
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He first became really famous
for his script for the movie,

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Being John, Malkovich back in
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And then he did adaptation which
one some Oscars and then he did

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this movie and this is probably
I'd say to this day, his most

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famous and probably his most
well-regarded script.

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And it really is a mind Bender
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When you think about just like
the plot of the film you're

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inside of, somebody's mind
watching his memories play out

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and all you get to know about
his relationship.

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This girl Clementine is played
through the memories that you're

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watching, fall, apart around
them because the memories are

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being erased.
And so, sometimes the characters

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in The Memories play out, like
people in a memory would, and

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then all of a sudden, they'll
kind of become autonomous and

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they'll realize, oh, this
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We have to run away and it's
just this really crazy, trippy

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surreal movie for a good portion
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And so I'm kind of surprised
Brad that you would say that you

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were bored with it.
So, like, fill me in a little B,

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YY.
What board you about this film,

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honestly, like the tricks and,
you know, things that they use

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to keep your attention.
Had nothing to do with the plot

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in my mind.
Like the plot of this movie is

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that two?
People weren't super well suited

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for one another and they didn't
communicate well and so they

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broke up with each other.
Like, that's normal life.

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That's okay.
And I just watched this movie

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and throughout the entire thing
as they delve into his memory,

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And you also see the, you know,
the people who do the memory,

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deleting you see a little bit
into their lives and what

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they're all about.
I just wasn't interested.

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The start of the movie.
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You see the two of them
interacting and very quickly I

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realized.
Oh, that's like at the end of

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the movie chronologically
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showed a start.
So like I realized right away

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that that they were messing with
the timeline as far as what the

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audience was seeing.
So, I honestly for Me the movie

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was just two people who don't
communicate well.

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And that's not very interesting
to me, you know, oh, Jim

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Carrey's edgy, because he has
some mental issues.

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And oh, Kate Winslet is edgy
because she's super needy and

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impulsive and dyes her hair
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That that that's not
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To me, it doesn't have any
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It doesn't draw me in and so the
whole movie was just watching

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them, the kind of ridiculous and
it didn't feel like there was

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any sense of growth Didn't the
characters?

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Wow, I'm really surprised that
you say like, I feel like I can

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get on board with like, some of
what you say and then you say

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something else, like, I'm really
shocked that you say something

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like there wasn't any growth in
the characters because even

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though, like you hit the nail on
the head, the movie is about

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people that don't communicate
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And I think it's a commentary on
how we all have terrible

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memories.
And we all have things in our

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lives, that we regret it.
Maybe that is something like a

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bad relationship.
You know, someone dying.

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Someone leaving us and I think
What Charlie Kaufman's trying to

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say with the script is just like
it's better for us to have the

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hurt.
It's better for us to have the

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regret and it's better for us to
have the memories because that

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helps us grow and that helps us
become better people and I think

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you're absolutely right Brad.
At the end of the film, they get

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back together.
And so the whole, the whole

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point of the movie is, like the
memory eraser thing didn't work

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in general, and you can't delete
somebody from your life.

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And I actually think this movie
is way more pertinent now than

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it was even 15 years ago when it
Now because, you know, now we

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have social media and now it's
really easy to block somebody

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and literally delete them from
existence on social media in

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your eyes with the tap of a
finger.

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And I think this movie has a lot
to say to 2020.

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Yeah, hmm.
Honestly, I look at the way the

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movie ended and I go I don't
think these two people should be

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together and and that's a big
struggle for me.

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They're not good for one another
and I go.

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Oh, Well, you guys got back
together, great, good for you

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but like did you actually learn
anything because in the end the

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whole movie is in Jim Carrey's
brain.

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You know Clementine didn't learn
any of the lessons that he

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really learned and so I just
feel like they are not a good

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couple and shouldn't be together
and sure you learned the lesson

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of like you can't just delete
people from your life that

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they're still emotional
scarring, from who they are.

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But was it?
What was it worth it?

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But was it worth it?
Yeah, so I'm really happy you

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say that Brad because I think
for me this is why this movie is

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brilliant because I think
there's two ways to interpret

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the ending.
I think there's the really

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romantic way to interpret the
ending and that final scene, you

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get between Joel and Clementine
in the hallway when she says

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stuff.
Like I'm Gonna Let You down, I'm

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gonna I'm gonna hurt your
feelings, we're gonna be right

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back here again and he just
Shrugged his shoulders and says,

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okay.
I'm not perfect.

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I can't see anything that I
don't like about you but you

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were a kid but you will you
know, you will think of things

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and I'll get bored with you and
feel trapped because that's what

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happens with me.
Okay.

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Okay, okay, I think that's a
really beautiful sentiment and

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that's what it kind of means to
be in a relationship.

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Yeah, I'm on board for that.
I'm signing up for the fact that

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we're not going to be perfect.
And we are going to hurt each

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other and I think when you read
the movie through the really

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romantic lens, it's like, wow.
Wow, Joel was able to overcome

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the Erasure of his memory to
find this person again and you

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read the movie and it's like,
wow, they're destined to be

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together.
There's like this element of

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fate or destiny involved that
they just happen to find each

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other again and decide to get
together again.

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The other way to read the ending
of the movie is like, okay, but

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maybe they really aren't
supposed to be together.

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Maybe they really are bad for
each other.

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And I think you get that in the
fact that like, like you said,

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Brad, you only see Clementine
through Joel's point of view.

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And you also don't see
Clementine like trying to hide

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Joel in her memory.
The only person as far as the

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movie tells us that has ever
fought back against the

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procedure happening, is Joel.
So maybe Joel just loves

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Clementine way more than than
she loves him.

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And I think the very last shot
of the movie Echoes this because

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it's a shot of them kind of
running through the snow, and

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the director Michel gondry, does
this really brilliant thing

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where he plays that same thing,
three times again and the

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suggestion is like, maybe they
go Through this again and again

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and again and when you read it
through that lens it's like oh

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man maybe this is really just a
doomed relationship, but I think

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either way you read it Brad.
You still have to see it through

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the lens of like it's better to
have the hurt.

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It's better to have the memory
than to think that you can just

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like delete it out of your life
Sian.

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I read it completely differently
to me.

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It feels like when at the end of
the movie, when she says, I'm

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going to hurt you, I'm going to
do these things.

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It feels like with the Play the
movie ends with the repetition,

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it feels like she's just going
to do these things over and over

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and over again.
And she's not taking

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responsibility for these things.
I think it's okay for us as

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human beings to say, Hey you
hurt me.

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I would prefer if you didn't do
that again.

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Now is their Grace and love and
understanding if they do hurt

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you again.
Yes.

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But at some point you have to
say like, is this really worth

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it?
Is it worth my emotional pain

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and scarring and suffering to
continue.

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You to subject myself to this
person hurting me over and over

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and over again.
And the answer is no at a

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certain point if that person is
not willing to change in any way

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then, no, they're not worth your
time and you should leave them

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to me.
It just felt like she was

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saying, well I'm gonna be
myself, I'm impulsive C'est La

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Vie and that that just annoyed
the heck out of me, because I'm

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like, Joel you deserve more than
that you deserve somebody.

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Who says, I understand that the
way I've acted has hurt you.

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And I'm sorry and I know that my
actions have had consequences in

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your life, and I'm going to try
to change.

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I'm going to try to become
better for you and I just don't

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feel like there's any sense of
that in this movie.

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It feels like to me.
She's just saying, well, I guess

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I'm gonna be who I am.
So, I've tried to think of,

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like, Parallels for this movie,
other movies that are kind of

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similar to it, in a sense, and
it's hard, To do.

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Because I really think this is a
very unique movie, both in the

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concept and in the way that it's
executed on screen, I think the

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closest movie to this, that kind
of gets at the same theme would

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be this movie called her that
came out a couple years ago with

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Joaquin, Phoenix, it's a movie
that I hope we get to someday on

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the podcast.
But in terms of movies, we've

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seen, I think there's two movies
that we could kind of draw

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parallels to.
And one would be Lost in

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Translation, which we already
mentioned.

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It's these feelings of isolation
and loneliness, it's got these

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kind of quirky, indie movie.
From the early 2000s and then

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the other one would be 500 Days
of Summer.

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I mean, I think just on an
obvious level, it's a movie

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about kind of a doomed
relationship.

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It's a movie where you're seeing
everything from the guy's point

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of view.
And so you get kind of really

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complicated emotions towards the
female because is she being

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vilified?
Are we actually seeing an

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accurate representation of her?
Is everything skewed, Brad?

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I want to hear what your
thoughts are on how this movie

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kind of relates to 500 Days of
Summer.

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In your mind.
Do you see similarities?

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He's or is it really different
to you?

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Honestly, I feel like those two
movies are very different

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because with 500 Days of Summer,
you see Joseph Gordon-Levitt

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trying to move on and process
what he's gone through whereas

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in this movie it feels like Joel
you know played by Jim Carrey

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just as continually trying to
find ways to hold on to the good

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aspects of Clementine while
forgetting the bad aspects.

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And so to me it feels like a
very different emotional movie

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where 500 Days of Summer is
genuinely searching for closure

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and Eternal Sunshine of the
Spotless.

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Mind just feels like it's trying
to ignore the problems and hold

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on to what is good.
But all right, listen, we need

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to take a break here soon.
And I don't want to get a, I

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don't want to like spark a real
argument here but Brad, I feel

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like you're actually picking up
on a ton of what this movie is

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supposed to convey and I guess
my confusion is like, you see

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it?
But why does that make it a bad

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movie?
Like I absolutely agree with

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everything you just said about
how it's not really about

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closure, but how it is
open-ended and how, you know,

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maybe Joel does deserve better
and he's making a bad choice but

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like why can't we have a movie
that depicts those things?

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Like, why does a movie have to
have closure?

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Why does the movie have to have
a happy ending?

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I I think like, I think what
this movie does is really,

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really brilliant.
And it's done well and I guess

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I'm still struggling.
With, why you think that it's

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poorly made?
I think it's just feels gimmicky

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to me the, the whole mind memory
Erasure thing feels gimmicky,

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because it's so far fetched from
reality.

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That the, the whole movie is
just kind of dumb.

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All right.
All right, we need to drink some

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whiskey because I'm feeling
personally attacked at this

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point.
So high, I mean, go ahead.

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I mean, I hate to say it but
it's a similar sense of how I

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felt about Gone With the Wind.
You know you were talking about

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movies that this reminds you of
honestly this movie kind of

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reminds me of Gone With the
Wind, this melodramatic way,

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over-the-top ridiculous, telling
of a story that's just

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unnecessary.
I don't enjoy it.

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And anyway dude, you are like a
hot take machine.

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Today I need to just pull audio
clips out of this episode and

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Justin Infuriate fans of every
movie.

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Every one's ever, loved except
Star Wars.

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It's only when you still like,
apparently, I'm just being

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honest with you.
Bob, this is how I feel about

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this movie.
All right, man, let's take a

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break.
Let's try this.

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Jack Daniels single barrel
select so that I can feel myself

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to get through the rest of this
episode.

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What do you say?
Let's get to it.

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All right.
So today we are checking out

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Jack Daniels single barrel
barrel proof select that is a

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absolute mouthful to say.
It really is about.

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I hope I got it right that time.
Now this was a sample that was

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sent to us by our friend.
Chris Blattner, at Urban bourbon

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missed on Instagram.
If your listener longtime

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listener to the podcast, you
will recognize that name.

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Chris has been sending us tons
of samples to try and we are

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just eternally grateful for how
many samples he's been sending

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us.
So first of all, Urban bourbon

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Heist, thank you so much for the
Jack Daniels.

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Yeah, Chris we are so thankful
for you.

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I absolutely love.
Listen to your live broadcast on

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Instagram, your informative,
your fun, and we're just so

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thankful that you are a friend
of the podcast.

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So when it comes to this Jack
Daniels Brad and I still haven't

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actually tried on air Jack
Daniels, you know, standard

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Black, Label Tennessee, whiskey
last season.

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We tried gentlemen, gentlemen.
Which we both liked quite a bit.

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And so this is the second that
we're trying in the Jack Daniels

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line.
Now, this is as the name says a

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single barrel.
Now I am pulling the information

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for this whiskey off of one of
my favorite bourbon sites called

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breaking bourbon.
They do bourbon reviews and they

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are super informative.
And this is what they have to

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say about Single Barrel.
Select after distillation Jack,

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Daniel's Tennessee, whiskey
undergoes, what's referred to as

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the Lincoln County process.
They allow it their whiskey, to

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drip for For six days in 10-foot
Vats passing through charcoal

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that was made by burning maple
wood that had been impregnated

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with 140, Proof Jack Daniels
whiskey before being put into

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new, charred Oak barrels, and
aged for an estimated for 27

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years so they basically
turbocharged their whiskey as it

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goes into the barrel.
And then what we're getting here

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is somewhere between four and
seven years in age.

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This comes out of one barrel and
Brad.

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I'm not going to shit share.
What the proof is yet because I

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want you to take a taste of this
and tell me what?

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You think the proof might be?
But before we get there, let's

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take a sniff a little smell
here.

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And say, what we think about the
nose of this single barrel

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select.
Well, honestly Baba, I feel like

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regular Jack is known for the
burn that it has going down.

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And so it makes me nervous to
think about a barrel proof

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version of such a whiskey me to
my friend, but tell me about the

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nose on this, you know, I do
feel like I'm getting those

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similar Jack Daniels notes, you
know, there's Some vanilla on

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here.
It's okey.

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It does remind me of normal Jack
Daniels.

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Yeah, I mean, people like to
split hairs about the difference

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between Tennessee, whiskey and
bourbon, and it really is just

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that charcoal filtering that
makes the difference.

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This just smells like a
phenomenal bourbon.

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I actually really love the nose
on this Brad.

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It has really, really dark
bourbon denotes.

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I'm not getting a lot of
vanilla, but I am getting like a

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ton of brown sugar.
Like, it really just smells

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like, someone is, is
caramelizing.

450
00:24:49,100 --> 00:24:52,600
Something with brown sugar?
And a bunch of maple syrup.

451
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:57,700
It is like this really great
dark Sweet, Maple bomb and a

452
00:24:57,700 --> 00:25:01,300
little bit of like a banana.
It's just super sweet and I'm

453
00:25:01,300 --> 00:25:03,400
really excited to try it Brad.
I think I'm going to give this a

454
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:04,900
nine out of ten.
On the nose.

455
00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:07,400
Holy crap.
Bob, that's a really high score.

456
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,000
Yeah I love the nose on this
man.

457
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:14,100
Yeah I am worried because I'm
getting a ton of ethanol on this

458
00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:19,300
nose and it reminds me of other
Barrel proof whiskies that just

459
00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:22,700
destroys your palate when you
drink them.

460
00:25:23,500 --> 00:25:27,700
I'm honestly not noticing very
many notes that you are.

461
00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:31,400
And so I'm going to give it a
six out of ten on the nose.

462
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,300
I'm nervous about this one.
All right, well, let's give it a

463
00:25:34,300 --> 00:25:36,100
taste and see if your nerves
continue.

464
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,800
Wow.
My tongue is tingly.

465
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,900
That's actually a really good
word for what's going on when

466
00:25:50,900 --> 00:25:54,900
you take a sip of this.
Yeah, I will say beginners tip

467
00:25:54,900 --> 00:25:58,300
for drinking Barrel proof
bourbon.

468
00:25:58,900 --> 00:26:01,200
Give yourself a good deep
breath.

469
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,700
Before you take a sip, it kind
of prepares you so that you

470
00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:08,400
don't need to breathe really
quickly, right after you take a

471
00:26:08,408 --> 00:26:11,300
sip, which can kind of mess up
the process.

472
00:26:11,300 --> 00:26:14,800
So, take a nice deep breath.
Give it a second, take a sip of

473
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,100
that whiskey.
Otherwise it can go down the

474
00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:19,600
wrong pipe.
Ruined the rest of the drink for

475
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,500
you.
This one is interesting.

476
00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:25,300
I'm noticing those Maple notes
that you're talking about.

477
00:26:25,300 --> 00:26:28,800
Those came out pretty strongly
but outside of that I feel like

478
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,900
I got a little bit of vanilla
but it's mostly tingly.

479
00:26:32,900 --> 00:26:36,900
This is a very high proof
whiskey and Bob I'm going to

480
00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:40,100
wager a guess that this is the
highest proof whiskey we've ever

481
00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:44,800
had on the podcast.
So Brad as we're talking, I'm

482
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,800
actually messaging with Urban
bourbon missed on Instagram

483
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,500
because I wanted to get some
feedback from him.

484
00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:52,100
On what it is we're drinking
right now because when I looked

485
00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:54,800
on the Jack Daniels website, it
said that the Single Barrel

486
00:26:54,800 --> 00:27:00,300
select was actually only 94
proof and I drank this and this

487
00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:04,800
is like this is like beating me
up from the inside and I'm like

488
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,300
there is no way.
This is 94 proof, how is that

489
00:27:07,300 --> 00:27:09,400
possible?
And he's confirming to me.

490
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,700
Now this is in fact, a barrel
proof version of The Single

491
00:27:12,700 --> 00:27:16,000
Barrel select because I thought
that I was just like way out

492
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,200
there and Brad.
You're actually really, really

493
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,600
close to being correct.
I'm not sure if it's the highest

494
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,400
one we've ever had, but it's
darn near close.

495
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,300
This thing is clocking in at a
hundred and twenty nine point,

496
00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:32,400
six proof, holy crap.
Yeah, this is a heck of a

497
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,400
whiskey as far as the alcohol
proof and I will say I'm

498
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:42,200
impressed that the high proof is
not destroying the flavor, but I

499
00:27:42,300 --> 00:27:46,300
Don't give it the credit to say
that it has tons of flavor.

500
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:51,300
I'm really struggling to pick up
different notes because my

501
00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:55,000
tongue is just getting destroyed
by this, not in a negative way,

502
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,900
but it's a bit of a struggle to
get past that ethanol.

503
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,100
Yeah, man, I'm not gonna lie.
It's destroying my tongue in a

504
00:28:01,108 --> 00:28:04,500
negative way.
This is like, it's very spicy

505
00:28:04,700 --> 00:28:06,300
tingly.
The really good word and then

506
00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:08,300
you go to swallow it.
And it's like it's hanging

507
00:28:08,300 --> 00:28:12,300
around and it's almost like it's
forming like a block in My

508
00:28:12,308 --> 00:28:14,000
chest.
It's just not going away.

509
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,200
There's not a lot of actual
taste on this.

510
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,000
That's the thing that's really
bothering me after that.

511
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,000
Really sweet really great knows.
It's sweet but it's not

512
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,800
distinctive.
It just kind of tastes a little

513
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,000
sugary and then there's no
subtlety to it.

514
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,700
There's no flavor that lingers.
It just burns a lot.

515
00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:33,500
I'm going to give it a 5 on the
taste.

516
00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:37,800
I think I'll give it a six and a
half on taste because I was so

517
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,400
nervous about it up front.
I actually think there's more

518
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:45,700
tastier than I thought there
would be And honestly to make a

519
00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:50,900
bottle of whiskey that has such
a high alcohol content and still

520
00:28:50,900 --> 00:28:53,900
have flavor.
I'm a little bit impressed.

521
00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:57,600
So I will give it a six and a
half but that doesn't mean it

522
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,800
has tons of flavor.
All right, so that takes us to

523
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,800
finish and I've already been
saying like the finish on this.

524
00:29:03,900 --> 00:29:08,200
It's not just a Kentucky hug.
It's like a Kentucky vice-grip,

525
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,200
I don't know.
Like it's it's really, really

526
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,800
hurting my chest.
Just I am not a huge fan of the

527
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,300
finish on this Brad but you're
right, I mean, at such a high

528
00:29:17,300 --> 00:29:19,000
proof.
It's like, what do you expect?

529
00:29:19,100 --> 00:29:21,800
I'm really happy to find out.
This is not 94 proof because I

530
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:26,300
was, I was thinking I was crazy.
So at 130 proof, I guess I'll

531
00:29:26,300 --> 00:29:29,100
give it a 5 on the Finish.
You know what, Bob, I'm gonna

532
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:32,400
I'm gonna change my score.
The more I take sips of this,

533
00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:36,400
the more, I like the taste the
taste on its initial

534
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,500
introduction to my palate is
almost like honey, it it's warm.

535
00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:43,800
It's a maple.
I'm actually going to up my

536
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,000
score to a seven and a half on
this for the taste.

537
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:52,400
I'm growing on this whiskey and
the Finish isn't too terrible.

538
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:57,100
It's definitely strong from an
alcohol standpoint but I think

539
00:29:57,100 --> 00:30:00,500
I'm still getting those notes of
maple that you talked about.

540
00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:02,500
I'm still getting those notes of
honey.

541
00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:06,700
From the the opening taste, I'm
actually a little bit impressed

542
00:30:06,700 --> 00:30:08,200
with this.
I'm gonna give it a seven and a

543
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,200
half on the Finish as well.
Wow.

544
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,100
Yeah, we're going to be very far
off on this one today.

545
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,300
Okay, overall balance knows
taste and finished put together.

546
00:30:15,300 --> 00:30:16,900
I don't think this is very well
balanced.

547
00:30:16,900 --> 00:30:19,800
I thought that the nose betrayed
me a little bit.

548
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,300
It wasn't as sweet as the no
suggested and it actually ended

549
00:30:22,300 --> 00:30:24,800
up being much much stronger than
I thought.

550
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,800
The nose suggested Brad, you
picked up on that ethanol, where

551
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,900
I didn't, I'm going to give it
a, I'll stick with the five.

552
00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:32,700
Again.
I'm gonna go with a 5 on overall

553
00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:35,000
balance.
Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm Gonna Keep

554
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,900
in the vein.
It's a seven and a half on the

555
00:30:36,900 --> 00:30:39,700
balance for me.
I think that it's well balanced.

556
00:30:39,700 --> 00:30:43,000
I noticed the ethanol up front
and I wasn't Pointed.

557
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,700
I was surprised by how much
flavor they were able to pack in

558
00:30:46,900 --> 00:30:49,600
with such a strong, alcoholic
punch.

559
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,300
All right?
And that takes us to Value.

560
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,800
If you look online at some of
the online retailers, they're

561
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,900
obviously going to be a little
bit more expensive.

562
00:30:58,100 --> 00:31:04,100
I see it listed for 7999 online.
The cheapest one I see is 64 99.

563
00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:07,600
So Brad, let's just say that
given wherever you might be in

564
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,500
the United States.
If we tried to kind of average

565
00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:13,000
out all the prices, you might
see I Think we should stick it

566
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,000
like a sixty five dollar price
point for this.

567
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,500
It is Single Barrel.
It is Barrel proof.

568
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,900
It is from the most famous
whiskey maker in the United

569
00:31:20,900 --> 00:31:23,200
States.
I'm not surprised by the price

570
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,000
on this, but man, if I didn't
find this, to be just

571
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,400
aggressively harsh and not very
pleasant and I don't think I

572
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:36,100
would ever pay $65 for this.
So it's like, while I understand

573
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,000
the price, I wouldn't buy it for
myself.

574
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,400
And so again, I think I'm just
going to give it a 5 on So Bob

575
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,500
I'm actually going to give this
a six and a half on on value and

576
00:31:47,500 --> 00:31:51,400
if I had not ever drank the
Elijah, Craig Barrel proof.

577
00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:54,000
Then I might be giving this a
higher score on value, but the

578
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,100
Elijah Craig is a 60 dollar
bottle, and that is probably the

579
00:31:58,100 --> 00:32:01,600
best Barrel proof I've ever had.
And so, with that being said,

580
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,200
you know, 65 to 70 dollars for
the Jack Daniels.

581
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,900
I think this is actually pretty
good, and if I had somebody who

582
00:32:07,900 --> 00:32:10,600
was like, hey Brad, I want to
know more about Barrel, proof

583
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,400
whiskeys, what should I I try, I
would suggest this to them so

584
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:20,000
$65 isn't terrible.
It's a little bit overpriced but

585
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,000
I'll still give this a
six-and-a-half on value.

586
00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:25,700
All right, so that's bringing me
out to a 29 out of 50.

587
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,600
I'm okay with that score.
I don't really care for this.

588
00:32:28,900 --> 00:32:32,700
It's just a little bit too harsh
for me, but I think it's still

589
00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:34,300
fair.
I don't think it's a poorly made

590
00:32:34,300 --> 00:32:36,300
whiskey.
It's just, the proof is is a

591
00:32:36,308 --> 00:32:39,200
little too high for me.
Yeah, I that's bringing me out

592
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,700
to a 35 out of 50 Bob.
I actually I'm pretty daggone

593
00:32:43,700 --> 00:32:45,800
impressed with this Jack
Daniels.

594
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,900
It's so much deeper than their
traditional offering, and its

595
00:32:49,900 --> 00:32:54,100
flavor and its profile.
I'm really impressed right now.

596
00:32:54,700 --> 00:32:58,100
Alright, so that brings us to an
average of a 32 out of 50 or a

597
00:32:58,100 --> 00:33:02,000
64 out of 100, which I think is
a pretty fair score for this

598
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,300
Brad.
I'm sure you'd probably like it

599
00:33:03,300 --> 00:33:05,600
to be a bit higher.
I'm okay, where it's at?

600
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,100
I do want to say again, thank
you so much.

601
00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:10,600
Urban bourbon nest for sending
us a sample of this.

602
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,400
This is, you know, your Thing is
Whiskey's that we probably would

603
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,100
never get the chance to try
otherwise.

604
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,100
So we are just so grateful to
have this in our glasses

605
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:18,900
tonight.
Yeah.

606
00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:23,300
Chris thank you so much man.
Like it's so awesome that we

607
00:33:23,300 --> 00:33:26,800
have this amazing community of
whiskey lovers out there.

608
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,400
And we're just so thankful that
that you have sent us this

609
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,200
whiskey and that we get to share
it with the world.

610
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,000
So film will whiskey Nation.
Give a shout out to Urban

611
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,200
bourbon missed.
Thank U for this whiskey.

612
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,200
All right, Brad, what do you
say?

613
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,000
We get back into talking about
eternal son.

614
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,400
Sign of the Spotless Mind, I
would prefer to keep talking

615
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,800
about this whiskey.
Let's do it.

616
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,000
Alright so that was Jack
Daniels, single barrel.

617
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:31,199
Barrel proof, select by far, the
longest name for a whiskey.

618
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:32,600
We've had on this podcast so
far.

619
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,500
I would agree with you.
And Bob, I think you made a

620
00:34:35,507 --> 00:34:39,100
mistake pairing this whiskey
with this movie because I think

621
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:44,500
it's just gonna fuel my
frustration with this movie for

622
00:34:44,500 --> 00:34:47,500
our second half of the episode.
I can't imagine what this must

623
00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:49,600
look like in.
Someone's like apple podcast

624
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,900
player, it probably like breaks
the number of characters your To

625
00:34:52,900 --> 00:34:56,000
have in an episode name.
All right.

626
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,500
So Brad, you don't like this
movie.

627
00:34:57,500 --> 00:35:00,900
I liked this movie a lot before
we get final scores, because I

628
00:35:00,900 --> 00:35:02,900
think we've kind of already
gotten into analysis.

629
00:35:02,900 --> 00:35:05,300
I've already said what I think
this movie is about.

630
00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:08,600
I do think I want to hear or try
to coax out of you.

631
00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:10,400
A couple positives about this
movie.

632
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,500
So, I want to talk about the
performance as really quickly

633
00:35:12,500 --> 00:35:16,100
because I really think that Jim
Carrey is absolutely phenomenal.

634
00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:17,800
In this movie, playing against
type.

635
00:35:17,900 --> 00:35:21,200
I think that, you know, he could
be sarcastic, he can be like

636
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,500
really downtrodden And and
timid.

637
00:35:24,500 --> 00:35:27,400
He's afraid in moments, he's
angry, he's funny.

638
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,100
Wish I'd stayed now.
I wish I'd stayed wish.

639
00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:38,500
I'd done a lot of things.
I wish I had.

640
00:35:43,300 --> 00:36:02,300
I wish I'd stayed.
And it's one of the best

641
00:36:02,300 --> 00:36:05,600
performances of that year and
I'm really anxious to hear what

642
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,600
you thought about Jim Carrey in
this film Bob, I'm not gonna lie

643
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,100
to you, I really struggled with
his performance and I know that

644
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:18,400
Jim Carrey is known for his
overacting in a sense, you know,

645
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:24,000
he just, he is so expressive.
And so crazy in his performances

646
00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:27,800
that you might look at a
performance like this one.

647
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,700
And go.
Oh wow, he's very deep.

648
00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:31,200
He's playing a different role.
Roll.

649
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,800
But honestly the entire movie
just felt like he had shut down

650
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:41,900
everything that made him him and
you didn't get anything of who

651
00:36:41,900 --> 00:36:44,800
Jim Carrey really is.
As an actor, he felt like a

652
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:49,200
shell of himself and and I
didn't enjoy it as a performance

653
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,400
so I don't want to make too many
comparisons again to like Lost

654
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,100
in Translation but I feel like
he was kind of doing a similar

655
00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:57,500
thing to what Bill Murray was
doing in terms of like

656
00:36:57,500 --> 00:37:00,700
downplaying his goofier more
outside.

657
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,400
It rolls in terms of this really
subtle reflective kind of

658
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,600
performance.
And so I'm interested because I

659
00:37:07,607 --> 00:37:09,700
remember, you really liking Bill
Murray and that movie.

660
00:37:09,700 --> 00:37:12,300
And and now I hear that you
don't like Jim Carrey in this

661
00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:15,400
film is really surprising to me.
Well, honestly I think Bill

662
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:20,900
Murray in Lost in Translation is
not necessarily a different, you

663
00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:23,400
know, a completely different
version of himself the way he

664
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,300
plays himself, he still has that
dry humor.

665
00:37:26,300 --> 00:37:30,400
That makes him him.
You know, there's a sense that

666
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,300
in Bill Murray's other movies.
Sure.

667
00:37:32,300 --> 00:37:35,900
He's Goofy and little bit crazy
but he's still.

668
00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:38,100
He's still quiet and his other
movies.

669
00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:42,600
He still has a very dry sense of
humor that you get in this

670
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,500
movie.
I think the thing that would

671
00:37:44,500 --> 00:37:50,000
have helped make Jim Carrey's
character more believable, as if

672
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,400
you got a sense of the
positivity of his relationship

673
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,100
with Clementine throughout the
movie.

674
00:37:55,100 --> 00:38:00,300
You know, he just plays this,
this really depressed down.

675
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,900
Send throughout the entire movie
that I never get a sense of why

676
00:38:04,900 --> 00:38:07,500
he enjoys this relationship with
Clementine.

677
00:38:07,500 --> 00:38:10,900
It really makes no sense to me.
Wow, here I am trying to draw

678
00:38:10,900 --> 00:38:13,200
positives out so you don't like
Jim Carrey.

679
00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:17,100
Did you like Kate Winslet?
Not really.

680
00:38:17,300 --> 00:38:19,900
Okay.
Damn, I will say, the other

681
00:38:19,900 --> 00:38:22,200
person that I really noted in
this movie who doesn't get a lot

682
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,100
of credit was Kirsten Dunst.
And I thought that she was

683
00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:26,700
really.
Like, if this movie has an

684
00:38:26,700 --> 00:38:30,900
emotional core, it's her
character of Mary and And you

685
00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:32,800
know, about two-thirds of the
way through the movie.

686
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,200
There's this really big dramatic
twist while you where you find

687
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,900
out that she works for the
doctor who is performing all of

688
00:38:38,900 --> 00:38:42,000
these procedures and you find
out that at one time, she had

689
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,700
been having an affair with him.
And the doctor had erased her

690
00:38:45,700 --> 00:38:48,600
memories of that.
And it's kind of this really

691
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,300
like a gut punch of a reveal
within the movie.

692
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,900
And I thought that her character
throughout the film when she's

693
00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:57,900
in her sort of girlish
flirtation and and being

694
00:38:57,900 --> 00:39:01,200
attached to him all the way
through to kind of Your heart

695
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,700
ripped out at the end of the
film.

696
00:39:02,900 --> 00:39:05,100
She just played all of those
notes perfectly.

697
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:07,300
Really is a sort of a tragic
character.

698
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,900
And I thought she was kind of
like the unsung hero of this

699
00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:12,900
movie.
Honestly, the only scene of this

700
00:39:12,900 --> 00:39:16,600
movie that pulled it me.
Emotionally was when she asked,

701
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,200
Mark Ruffalo, did you know about
this?

702
00:39:19,300 --> 00:39:23,500
And and he just says, look no.
Like, there was one moment where

703
00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:26,900
I kind of wondered when I saw
the two of you talking and you

704
00:39:26,900 --> 00:39:31,300
seemed flirtatious but outside
of that one moment, But I never

705
00:39:31,300 --> 00:39:34,800
saw you in that way and so I
kept pursuing you.

706
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,200
So if anything the one emotional
moment where I felt like, I

707
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,000
cared about any of the
characters on screen was

708
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,000
provided by Mark Ruffalo.
Actually, even though I think

709
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,800
Kirsten Dunst was it was a big
part of it, as well.

710
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,000
All right, so Brad, I think
we've talked about it long

711
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,700
enough.
I do want to hear your final

712
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:53,100
score and would you recommend
this film?

713
00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:59,000
All right.
Bob, there's not much to this

714
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,600
movie that I liked, I think I
just mentioned to you.

715
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:07,000
The only scene that I was really
emotionally charged by, I'm

716
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,200
gonna give this movie A 2 out of
10.

717
00:40:09,700 --> 00:40:13,200
I'd my gosh.
Brett, I'm a 2, a 2, a 2 out of

718
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,700
10.
I just didn't think it really

719
00:40:15,700 --> 00:40:18,700
had anything going for it.
It was gimmicky.

720
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,200
It didn't draw me in
emotionally, I felt like the

721
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,600
conflict was forced that you
could have just solved it with

722
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,500
open communication.
And I get that, that's like the

723
00:40:28,500 --> 00:40:30,700
point of the movie that we
should communicate better with

724
00:40:30,700 --> 00:40:34,100
our other, you know, other half
are significant others, but

725
00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:38,500
nothing in the movie made sense.
It didn't make sense to me that

726
00:40:38,500 --> 00:40:42,300
she would go and get her memory
erased of this person and the,

727
00:40:42,300 --> 00:40:45,600
the explanation that they give
in the movie is, oh, well, she's

728
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,800
kind of flighty and impulsive.
So I guess she would erase the

729
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:54,200
memory of a relationship like,
that's just ridiculous to me.

730
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,900
And then, the other part of it
is they make the movie.

731
00:40:57,100 --> 00:41:01,300
E out to be so like set in the
real world and then they offer

732
00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:06,800
up this really weird technology
of oh you can erase memories and

733
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,700
you do memory mapping and it can
blow out the emotional core and

734
00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:14,400
the memory Fades.
And I just it just felt so

735
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,600
gimmicky to me.
And I guess as I say it, I

736
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,700
realized that, like, when I say
that the movie feels like it's

737
00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:25,000
set in real life, obviously, the
movie is very trippy in a sense

738
00:41:25,300 --> 00:41:28,600
but like everything about the
movie, Is realistic the, the

739
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,700
cinematography, the way they
designed the set.

740
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,900
So it feels like they're trying
to mimic real-life, but then

741
00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:38,400
they introduced this brain,
altering device, that gets rid

742
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:43,000
of your memories, it just feels
dumb and gimmicky to me and the

743
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,100
whole movie feels forced.
I honestly Bob, it's not that I

744
00:41:47,100 --> 00:41:50,900
actively dislike this movie,
it's that I was just unimpressed

745
00:41:50,900 --> 00:41:53,700
with it.
All right, so Brad, I I just I

746
00:41:53,700 --> 00:41:56,000
don't think I have time to argue
with like every single point of

747
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,800
what you said.
I think I am shocked that as a

748
00:41:58,808 --> 00:42:02,500
fan of sci-fi that you couldn't
get on board for a premise like

749
00:42:02,500 --> 00:42:06,300
this, where it's like light
science fiction where it's like

750
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,900
a slightly futuristic world or a
world with a slightly different

751
00:42:09,900 --> 00:42:13,200
amount of technology.
And I thought they did a really

752
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,500
good job of kind of
incorporating it into the movie

753
00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:17,200
as like, yeah, it's just this
thing that happens now.

754
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,600
People get their memories
erased.

755
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,100
I don't know II.
Just I really think that this

756
00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:24,700
movie is genius.
I think that the script is one

757
00:42:24,700 --> 00:42:27,900
of the most mind-bending but
brilliant, Deconstructed

758
00:42:27,900 --> 00:42:29,700
scripts.
I've ever seen every time I

759
00:42:29,700 --> 00:42:33,600
watch it, I'm Blown Away by how
this movie is put together and I

760
00:42:33,607 --> 00:42:36,700
think it has a lot to say about
what it means to be human.

761
00:42:36,700 --> 00:42:39,300
I think that you know, these
people aren't actually

762
00:42:39,300 --> 00:42:41,700
forgetting everything, they keep
finding things.

763
00:42:41,700 --> 00:42:44,700
Like Joel finds that painting is
in his apartment that he forgot

764
00:42:44,700 --> 00:42:48,700
to throw away.
And it keeps reminding them of

765
00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:51,500
who they used to be.
And I think the movies arguing

766
00:42:51,500 --> 00:42:54,300
that people need to be able to
remember, it's part of what

767
00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:57,300
makes us who we are.
I think it's a really Really

768
00:42:57,300 --> 00:43:01,100
inventive movie, Brad.
I honestly think that if we put

769
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:05,200
this to a pole like among our
Instagram followers, I think you

770
00:43:05,700 --> 00:43:07,700
honestly think you would be in
the very small minority of

771
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:10,600
people who dislike this movie.
I see this movie coming up on

772
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,500
lists of, like, the 100 greatest
of all time.

773
00:43:12,900 --> 00:43:15,600
I don't think it would make my
personal 100 greatest, but I

774
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,400
think this is a nearly perfect
movie.

775
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,100
I'm going to give this movie a 9
and a half out of ten.

776
00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:24,700
And so this this makes our
divide, the biggest divide, in

777
00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:26,900
the history of the film and
whiskey.

778
00:43:27,100 --> 00:43:28,800
Cast bigger even than Fight
Club.

779
00:43:29,100 --> 00:43:31,300
Yeah.
And that.

780
00:43:31,300 --> 00:43:35,900
Yeah, I mean, that's fine.
Like you can like this movie but

781
00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:40,600
I just, like I said, it's not
even that it provoked deep

782
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,700
passion in me as I was watching
it.

783
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,200
Like, it took me a while to kind
of dredge up these feelings

784
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,300
about the movie because it just
felt boring to me.

785
00:43:49,900 --> 00:43:53,400
It felt gimmicky.
It didn't impress me in any way

786
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,500
and that's why I give it a 2 out
of 10.

787
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,400
I gotta be honest, I think this
one kind of hurts a little, I

788
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,300
feel like you're getting a lot
of it and it's still not working

789
00:44:01,300 --> 00:44:03,600
for you and that's that's what
makes it hard because I think

790
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,100
for a lot of us who really love
this movie, like it just works

791
00:44:07,100 --> 00:44:09,900
for us and I think maybe this is
how you probably felt when I

792
00:44:09,908 --> 00:44:12,100
didn't like Fight Club.
A little, you know, it's like

793
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,700
it's got to be hard to dislike a
movie that much that is so kind

794
00:44:16,700 --> 00:44:19,200
of, beloved by such a large
group of people.

795
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,700
And so Brad, you're coming out
to a 2 out of 10.

796
00:44:21,700 --> 00:44:24,700
I'm coming out to a nine and a
half out of ten, that puts our

797
00:44:24,700 --> 00:44:26,800
average at a five point seven
five.

798
00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:30,400
Which is just a score that I did
not expect this movie to get.

799
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,100
I have a feeling that we'll get
a lot of feedback on this

800
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:35,000
episode and we would love to
hear it.

801
00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:37,200
Yeah.
Bob I'm looking at this and

802
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,400
you're probably right.
I am DB has this as an eight

803
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,600
point, three out of ten.
So I recognize I'm probably in

804
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,200
the minority.
So if you want to argue with,

805
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,800
Brad argue with me.
Tell us what you think about

806
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,700
this movie.
Please get on social media.

807
00:44:51,900 --> 00:44:55,800
You can find us on Facebook,
Twitter or Instagram, at film,

808
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,300
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you want to give us a call and

809
00:44:59,300 --> 00:45:03,600
let us know how you feel about
it, give us a call at 216 800

810
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,200
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Once again the phone number is

811
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,200
two one six eight hundred five
nine two three next week we will

812
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,500
be back talking about a movie
that I'm pretty darn sure.

813
00:45:12,500 --> 00:45:15,900
We both like 2012 s Quentin
Tarantino.

814
00:45:15,900 --> 00:45:19,400
Masterpiece Django Unchained for
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815
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,600
Whiskey podcast.
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816
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:23,400
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