Cruisemas, Vol. 4: The Color of Money (1986) / Bardstown Bourbon Company Normandie Calvados Brandy Barrel Finish

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In 1984, director Martin
Scorsese and starred Tom Dude

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Tom Cruise gave the world.
A cool look at a.

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Thoroughbred in the pool hall.
Brad, in 2025, I say to you, I

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can always go back to whiskey.
It's been very good to me.

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It's been very good to us, Bob.
The film is the color of money.

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The whiskey is Bardstown
Normandy Calvados Brandy barrel

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finish.
That is an ostentatious name.

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It sure is.
But we are going to review them

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both.
This is the Film and Whiskey

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podcast.
Welcome to the Film and Whiskey

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podcast and welcome folks to
Cruise, Miss Merry Cruise, Miss

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Brad.
Merry Cruise, Miss Robert.

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What you know, the thing about
the thing about cruise miss is

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do you, do you know that?
Oh, what's The Beach Boys song?

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Little Saint Nick?
Yeah.

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And in the in the bridge, they
just say.

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They just say Christmas comes
this time each year, which is

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the stupidest thing to like.
Of course it does.

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Like you're not.
This is not new information.

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Things happen chronologically,
these boys.

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But all I could think to say,
Brad was cruise miss comes but

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once a year.
I'm so excited, man, because we

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once again get to fate, our
favorite actor in the world, the

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runner of all runners.
Amen, Tom Cruise, Tom Cruise,

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baby.
I feel like Thanksgiving has a

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sense of decorum to it.
Like it like it's got a little

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bit of like, oh, like this is
respectable.

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It's a good holiday.
Cruise miss is just like I'm

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going all out, man.
I'm I'm not even drinking

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whiskey today, Bob.
I am drinking some Great Lakes

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Cookie Exchange milk Stout and
it's like tastes like berries

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and vanilla and manliness.
You know, I saw a quote on the

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wall of a brewery in town the
other day.

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There's no such thing as a
strong beer, Bob.

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There's only a weak man.
I do think Cookie Exchange Milk

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Stout is one of the more
suggestive titles for a beer

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I've heard in a long time.
It's a hell of a euphemism,

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Brad.
I I don't know what you're

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talking about.
Nope, me neither, Brad.

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We're here to talk about Tom
Cruise is what we're here to

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talk about.
I was saying there's definitely

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no, no euphemisms or like
awkward sexual tension in this

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movie at all, Bob.
No, not at all, because we're

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talking about 1980 sixes, 80
sevens, the color of.

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Mine I just wrote 1984 in the
opening and I I have no idea.

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I knew that was wrong and I just
didn't tell you.

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It's 1986, the color of money
in. 19. 86 Scorsese film that is

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a quasi sequel to the very
famous 1960s film The Hustler

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starring Paul Newman.
And guess what folks?

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It may be the world's very first
ever Legacy sequel.

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If you're interested in learning
about legacy sequels or, or what

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they are, our friend Patrick H
Williams just did an hour long

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video about the Legacy sequel
over on YouTube.

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And Brad, when we looked through
the list of Tom Cruise films

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that we haven't done, there are
a great many of them we have not

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talked about on this podcast.
But I think something about we

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should do an early Cruise and
then the allure of like it's

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Paul Newman and Martin Scorsese
teamed up with Tom Cruise.

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It's a very, this was kind of a
no brainer.

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Yeah, absolutely.
Now I do at some point I want to

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hear your thoughts on the new
Inaritu Digger combo with

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Cruise.
What are you thinking about that

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Bob?
I do not have high hopes.

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I mean, I have.
My hopes are very high.

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I don't have a good feeling
about it, I guess, is what I

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should say.
Yeah.

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So yes, Tom Cruise is making a
new movie next year with

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Alejandro Gonzalez Inuritu, the
director of Birdman and The

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Revenants.
And we only really see him in

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this trailer in silhouette and
it looks like he is dressed in

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the same like make up that he is
in the very beginning of the

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first Mission Impossible when
they make him look like Ross

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Perot.
Yeah, yeah.

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And I'm, I'm like, I think
that's what we're going for

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here.
And he's like in in cowboy boots

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and tighty whities and he's
doing the Joker staircase dance

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and that's the whole trailer.
And I don't know what the hell

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is going on.
See, I, I got the impression

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that he was dressed a little bit
like Joe Dirt.

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Like he has kind of like the,
the, the robe and Whitey

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tighties and boots on and he's
got a shovel and but he's Joe

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Dirt doing his Tropic Thunder
dance.

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That's the vibe.
What?

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If it turns out that this is
actually a prequel to how Jon

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Voight came to be in in control
of Stanley Yelmats in the movie

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Holes, and this is Digger, the
origin story of Holes.

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That would be the legacy sequel.
So me up dude that we've all

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been waiting.
For so Brad, you wanted.

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To talk about.
The Color of money today.

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This was a movie that I mean
you.

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I don't remember if it was you
or me that suggested it first,

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but it was a pretty easy choice
for us.

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And you've also told me that you
have absolutely no familiarity

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with the movie The Hustler that
came to adore this.

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Did you do any sort of like,
cursory reading about the movie

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The Hustler before diving into
this, or did you want to be

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completely detached from it?
You did tell me to do reading on

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the Hustler, which means I
didn't do any.

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Now I will say I did not tell
you go read.

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I didn't.
I didn't say go read Hustler,

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which is a that's a crucial
difference.

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I said read about the film The
Hustler.

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That is a very.
Specific search history is not

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my responsibility on this fine
cruise miss.

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I have not read a single thing
about the Hustler.

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I did however, ask my dad today.
Hey, have you seen the color of

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money?
Because we were celebrating

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cruise miss today, I asked him
if he'd seen the color of money.

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And he goes, yeah, I probably
saw it a long time ago.

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I was like, well, have you ever
seen the Hustler?

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He goes, Oh yeah, I watched it
the other day while I was

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working out.
So, apparently, the Hustler.

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Dude, listen, if this doesn't
work out between us, Brad's dad

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is going to just slot right in
easily, easily starting in

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season 11.
All right, Brad, we're kind of

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off the rails already here
today, but that's what Cruz Miss

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is all about.
I do think it is time for us to

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get into our first segment of
the day, which we call Brad

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Explains.
Brad's going to give us the

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movie plot with only 60 seconds
taken on the clock.

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So let's go ahead and do your
take with this little segment

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that we call Brad Explains.
Brad Explains is the part of the

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show where Brad breaks down the
plot of the movie that he has

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just seen, often for the first
time.

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This is a first time watch for
Brad on Absolutely.

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First time Brad, because.
Yeah, dude, because we are going

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for a abbreviated episode today,
I'm gonna impart or impose a

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32nd Brad explains on you today,
which has never been done and I

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gave you no warning.
So good luck my friend.

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I will give just the the
slightest bits of information

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about this movie because we
really we have not set this up

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very well.
It's a Scorsese movie.

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It stars Tom Cruise and Paul
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It is a movie that takes place
almost entirely inside of pool

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halls.
And Brad, this is definitely our

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first billiard themed movie.
I don't.

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Think we've done another one?
Do you think there's some young

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people that listen to our
podcast who are like pool hall?

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Are they like swimming?
Like is is a pool hall even a

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common parlance anymore?
I don't know.

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I mean, I the only place I see
pool tables now are like in a

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bowling alley, like a bowling
alley that has a dive bar

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attached to it.
You know what I mean?

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Yeah, they really don't exist,
and even in the movie they made

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fun of that.
Yeah, right.

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So this 40 year old movie.
All right, Brad.

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So do your best impression of
Fast Eddie Felson here and give

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us a 32nd breakdown of this
movie, including as many

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spoilers as you can fit in.
I am starting your time now.

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The Color of Money is a film
that follows Tom Cruise as a

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young hotshot billiards star and
a older Paul Newman who wants to

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teach him how to not just be a
billiard star, but hustle other

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people for money.
At the start, Paul Newman wants

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to hustle and Tom Cruise just
wants to win.

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And by the end of the film, Paul
Newman wants to win and Tom

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Cruise just wants to hustle.
And the entire time, both men

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either want to have sex with
each other or with Tom Cruise's

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girlfriend.
Man.

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Color and money.
And who can blame them?

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Who can blame them?
Fred here.

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Here's the real question.
Let's start off right off the

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bat now.
Paul Newman is an older

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gentleman in this movie, right?
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He's still a strong contender
for most attractive person in

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this movie.
And I think the real question

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before us is who?
Who is the most attractive

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person in the color of money?
Brad, I mean, I don't think the

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costume department did Tom
Cruise any favors with the

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little, like, red.
But like, the earring that Tom

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Cruise has in his left ear
throughout the film reminds me

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of, like, you know, the little
sheet of paper with the, like,

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the little hard candies attached
to it.

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Yeah, it looks like a little red
hard candy stuck one that they

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stuck to his ear.
Tell me I'm wrong.

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They could have really up to the
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if someone just like, nibbled
that right off of his earlobe.

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And Paul Newman, the costuming
department, did a great favor.

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Dude is dressed sharp.
I mean he.

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Is one of the few men that can
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too.
They look.

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Awesome, they look so cool.
He also has the bluest eyes ever

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to be blue, so.
I will.

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I will die on the hill.
Not that it's a hill that needs

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to be dyed on, but like, I think
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man of all time.
Like young Paul Newman.

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I don't know if there's anybody
else that's ever looked better

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than that.
Not a Rocky 4 Sylvester Stallone

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with a beard.
It's a close second.

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It's a close second.
Brett.

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He's like Tom Cruise, Sylvester
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That's the top three.
That's basically it.

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The thing about Tom Cruise in
this movie and how he looks, I

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feel like if you've seen The
Color of Money, you can't be

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surprised that Tom Cruise jumped
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Like yes, I feel like the.
Manic energy is there for sure.

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Is like 100% there and it works
for the movie and it's great.

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But I, you know, if, if we're
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he's got like a little bit of a
weird vibe going on.

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So Tom Cruise becomes a mega *
in 1986 and he'd already been on

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the ascent, right?
So like he does movies like The

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Outsiders in 1983, I believe.
And then he, you know, he has

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Risky Business, which is his
first big starring role that's a

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big hit.
And then out of those movies, he

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lands Top Gun, where he really
did flex a lot of power, even in

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that early, early starring role.
Tom Cruise has always been super

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savvy about how he structures
his contracts and the kind of

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points he gets on the back end
and how much control he has over

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the script.
And Top Gun, people didn't

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realize this the way after the
fact, but like, Tom Cruise had a

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huge hand in how that movie came
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And he's, I believe, 24 years
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And so Top Gun comes out in May
of 86 and is just a freaking

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juggernaut.
And that kind of carries this

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movie to being a hit too.
This was the the first

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financially successful Scorsese
movie in a really long time.

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And I do think that it's
interesting, Brad, I don't know

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if you've ever seen the original
Top Gun, but like, you know, Tom

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Cruise kind of makes his bones
on being varying levels of like

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smarmy wise ass.
And and it the the shades of

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that are like how likable is he?
And I feel like when you hold

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Top Gun up to Vince in this
movie, you really do kind of see

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the nuances of how Tom Cruise is
willing to use his persona in

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different ways and even in ways
that reflect poorly on him, not

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as an actor, but like he's a
piece of shit in this movie.

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Dude.
He's like, he's legitimately the

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villain of the movie.
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see, especially as such a young
person, Tom Cruise, take on a

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role like that, where the
ultimate hero of the movie or

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the guy that you want to see win
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I thought for me watching this
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most impressed by is Cruz
willing to make that decision

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for his career at such a young
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Because if you get people
associating you with being the

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bad guy or a guy they don't like
too early in your career, it can

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really screw things up.
Yeah, well, and even just a few

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years later, he makes Rain Man
where like, yes, he kind of ends

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in a decent place, but he's
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And I think that his willingness
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just to take on roles with great
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that's one of the big things
that's been talked about, Tom,

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is that in that like second
phase of his career, once he was

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past his young, like I'm just
getting my foot in the door.

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He wanted to work with great
actors and great directors.

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And he works with Paul Newman
and Martin and Martin Scorsese

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like.
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What?
What else can you act for?

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Ask for as a young actor and the
role that he takes on here in

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Color of Money, He starts off
like weird and intense and he

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finishes smooth and charming and
intense and it like it's a great

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transformational arc within the
film for his character.

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Dude at the end of the movie
when he loses and then to Paul

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Newman, and then he goes and
knocks on the door and gives him

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the money and he's like, Hey,
here's your cup, man.

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Like I I just totally jumped the
game.

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Oh.
What a gut punch.

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What a gut punch.
What an incredible.

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Scene like I I'm I'm going to
spoil something.

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I didn't love this movie, Bob.
My favorite movie.

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However, that scene was
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It was so good.
Even to think back to when Paul

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Newman and I out of Carmen.
Is her name in the movie?

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Yeah, The girl, Tom Cruise's
girlfriend.

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When Paul Newman says to Carmen,
like, I'm going to beat him, you

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know, and like the way she
responds to him is setting up

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Paul Newman to get had.
Like, it's not just Tom Cruise

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that has learned how to be a
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Carmen is 100% there with him.
It's it's so good.

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One of the interesting things
about this movie and I just

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watched it for the first time, I
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ago maybe I'd just never gotten
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And so this was an.
Interesting you watched it a day

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or two ago.
It was like your 7th time now.

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Yeah, right.
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Second time watching it, and I
remembered most of it 'cause it

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had been semi recently.
But watching it again, once you

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kind of realize that by the end
of the movie, Tom Cruise has

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either learned really quickly
how to hustle.

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Once, you know, Paul Newman kind
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the movie and you don't see Tom
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And then you get the reveal at
the end of the movie that he's

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been hustling everybody.
And so you're left with the

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choice of like, either he's been
hustling everybody because it's

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like a survival tactic and you
had to learn really quickly, or

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he's been hustling us the entire
movie.

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And he's just like, he's that
good.

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And I think that as you watch
the movie back with the dynamic

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of never knowing if Paul
Newman's motivations are like,

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I'm playing the long game, even
when I'm showing that like I

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lost my ass to Forest Whitaker.
Is that intentional?

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Is that something that he's
trying to do to get under Tom

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Cruise's skin?
Because we see all through the

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movie, he's absolutely willing
to take financial loss in the

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interest of the long game.
And so when you watch the movie

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back, the cool thing to me is
like, you can take the surface

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level reading of like.
These are two fundamentally

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flawed people who cannot help
but continue to make horrible

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decisions for their own personal
lives.

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But you can also take the
reading of like, and maybe they

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know they're doing it and
they're doing it on purpose

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because they're hustling each
other.

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And I think that was like the
cool, I don't know if you want

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to call it meta, but there's
like a, there's a conspiracy

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theory you could make about this
movie, I guess.

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I see for me the way I read the
movie and like one of the key

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lines that I like honed in on
was early in the film when Paul

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Newman and Carmen are talking to
each other.

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She tells him like, yeah, we met
because I was at the jail.

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I tried to break into his
parents house and I stole his

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mom's necklace.
And she goes, all he said about

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it is my mom has a necklace that
looks like that.

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And it's like this like
establishment of like he's an

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innocent kid who just wants to
play video games and all that.

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There's almost like this
chiastic structure to the movie

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where when you start, and I, I
said this already, like Paul

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Newman wants to hustle, Tom
Cruise wants to win.

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And by the end of the movie,
they flip.

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And so for me, it felt like, you
know, his name's Vincent in the

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movie, Tom Cruise's character.
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It feels like Vincent by the end
of the film, even just the way

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he dresses, he looks like Paul
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And there's this sense of like
they've switched positions and

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Paul Newman has gone from being
a hustler to just loving the

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game of billiards again.
And you kind of get that in like

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the almost like the Rocky
training sequence where the the

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timeline of this movie is so
wonky where he's like he has

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like a whole training montage
it.

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It's insane.
And it's like it takes place in

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the course of like 3 days, you
know?

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And he's like, I got it now I'm
back.

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And at the end of the movie he's
even like, I'm going to beat you

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next week in Atlanta, and if
not, I'll beat you the week

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after that in Saint Louis.
And it's like, yeah, are are we

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just doing tournaments like
every three days?

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What is going on here?
Yeah, what is happening?

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I love in the middle of the
movie that there's like an

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absolutely random eye test
scene.

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There's like one or two, two or
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Right.
It's part, it's part of the

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training montage when you're
over the age of 50.

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The only thing they didn't show
was him getting his prostate

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exam to make sure that he was
like, nimble enough in that area

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too, you know?
So.

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My reading on it isn't just that
they they obviously do switch

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places in terms of like Tom
Cruise wants to be, he just

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wants to win at all costs.
He has this, this desire to

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like, I cannot even pretend to
be bad.

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I have to dominate and show
everybody.

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And Newman's trying to get him
to play the long game the whole

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movie.
And yes, they do switch by the

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end.
But I think more of what the

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movie is saying is like, there's
this code of honor among these

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guys that like, when it's time
to play for real, you play for

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real.
And you don't throw a game like

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that.
And there's something about that

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scene at the end when Cruz comes
in and just slaps that money

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down on the dresser that it's
like, you betrayed the ideals of

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what we do here.
And I do think that, like,

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there's a scene after that where
they like, he basically says,

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like, send Tom Cruise to find
me.

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We're going to do this for real.
I need to know if I can beat him

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or not.
And they never show you what

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happens.
But like, you, you, I feel like

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that scene fell short of the
scene before it because I

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couldn't understand at that
point.

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Like, you know, Cruz bursts in
and is like, you used me.

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You used me for your own ends.
And Newman says, like, yeah, I

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did.
And then it's like, OK, well, is

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Newman confessing to, like, this
was all a ploy for me to get

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back in the game the whole time
or I.

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And.
And it kind of muddies the water

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in a way that's, like, not
narratively interesting.

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It muddies the water in a way
that I leave the movie a little

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more confused because.
Totally.

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I already thought that it was
like morally ambiguous and good,

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and then it became morally
ambiguous and I'm confused now.

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Does that make sense?
Oh 100%.

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All I know is that we got one of
the best shots of the movie when

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Paul Newman and his girlfriend
are on one side of the room and

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Tom Cruise and his girlfriend on
the other.

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And they're all at four
different levels of the room.

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And the camera is set up so that
you see all of them in the

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mirrors across the room.
So I literally counted.

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There are 9 versions.
There's nine people in the room

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when you count the reflections
in the mirrors.

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It's an incredible shot.
And I like I and, and he lets

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the camera sit for I mean, it's
like 1215 seconds of this

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tension of like Tom Cruise and
Paul Newman staring each other

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down and you have this just this
incredible shot.

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And he just sits there for like
15 seconds.

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And I'm like, like, that's a
director with some balls to just

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let that tension sit, to let the
shot sit.

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I just, I like, I'm with you
100% on the narrative element of

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that part, like what is
happening, but then I don't care

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because it's a perfect shot.
Yeah.

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The thing about this is like
it's a 2 1/2 star movie in like

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what the script is offering us
out of four, right.

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It's it's like a perfect, like
mediocre movie.

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And then you have got like
Newman and Cruz and Scorsese,

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like elevating this material.
And even then, it's like

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Scorsese is trying to inject
this movie with so much kinetic

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energy that you're like, surely
this is propelling us towards

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something.
And I feel like it just never

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quite gets there.
Like, it's like it's hurtling

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towards something that we never
actually see.

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And that may be part of the
intent that, like, for these

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guys, they're just going to keep
chasing this high forever.

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And I do think that, like, you
know, if we want to talk about

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Scorsese for a hot 2nd, Scorsese
has spent the late 70s and early

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80s, like, absolutely coked out
of his mind and overdosing on

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drugs and like, being in the
hospital, nearly dying, having a

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heart attack at one point and
has to get back in the good

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graces of Hollywood because then
the films he chooses are

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financially disastrous as well.
And so you see things like in

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the mid to late 80s, he makes
this movie.

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He directs a music video for
Michael Jackson.

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And like, now we look back on
Scorsese's career and it's like,

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oh, it's so cool that he did
those because he he brings the

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Scorsese touch to that.
But like, at the time and even

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to hear him talk about it now,
it's like he's embarrassed that

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he made this movie because he
had to make a financially

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successful movie.
And I'm like, no, dude, like

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you're the most interesting
thing about this movie, Martin

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Scorsese.
Yeah, well, what is it then

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about Scorsese in this film that
keeps you interested?

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Because I kept watching it and
being like, all right, where's

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the Scorsese of it all?
There's a few moments of like,

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camera brilliance or just the
way the lighting is set up that

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you're like, not many film
makers can do this.

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But overall, throughout the
film, I didn't find anything

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that like stuck out to me as
like this is like Martin and

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Thelma just doing their magic.
See, I disagree with that.

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I think that what Scorsese
doesn't bring is the like, I'm

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gonna carry my themes into this
movie.

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I'm gonna carry this theme of
like religious guilt or like the

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Mafia or New York even.
Like none of that's coming with

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him.
And it's almost like he's a

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hired gun and he just brings
like Scorsese the technician.

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It's like that scene in in Toy
Story 2 where the old guy comes

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and paints Woody again and he
just, he comes in, he does the

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thing he's great at and then he
leaves.

443
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,440
And like, this is all about
like, I am Martin Scorsese.

444
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,720
Nobody on earth, yeah, like
Spielberg can move the camera in

445
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,840
ways that narratively Dr. the
story forward in terms of like,

446
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,640
I will get 4 setups in this one
shot.

447
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,200
Scorsese doesn't care about
that.

448
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,680
He's like, I'm going to do 100
setups and they're all going to

449
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,600
be these crazy kinetic whip pans
back and forth and then like

450
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,800
these crazy close-ups of a ball
rolling and getting hit with a

451
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,240
cue.
And, you know, there's this one,

452
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:59,280
this one match they have where
it's just like overhead and they

453
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,040
just do like, still, almost
still frames.

454
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,400
It's like, and you watch the
different.

455
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,440
Yeah, it's just an insanely
kinetic movie.

456
00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:10,400
And I think that, like, that's
what you bring Scorsese in for,

457
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,600
is like, make this movie look as
cool as it can.

458
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,120
And he's like, awesome.
Give me $1,000,000.

459
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:15,880
Thank you.
Yeah.

460
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,120
I mean, I will say the first
like 25 minutes of the movie are

461
00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:23,480
just like over the shoulder
conversation shots.

462
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,760
But you don't like sometimes the
over the shoulder shot doesn't

463
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:32,240
include the person facing the
speaker, if that makes sense.

464
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,400
These ones all include like the
a little bit of the back of of

465
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,920
Cruz or Newman's head as they're
talking to each other or the

466
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,800
girlfriend.
And then you occasionally get a

467
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:47,800
really strong fast push in on
the face and it's like really

468
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,880
intense.
And I'm like, this feels very

469
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,600
80s.
I don't know if it feels.

470
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:57,560
Very Scorsese.
Oh, see now my my most direct

471
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,640
comparison of like movies we've
done is Goodfellas, where like

472
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,280
he's using that sort of like I'm
pushing in on you immediately.

473
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,160
And it's always in the scenes
where like, Henry just snorts a

474
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,320
ton of coke.
And then it's like, and I think

475
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,040
for me, that's kind of why I was
watching this movie this time

476
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,960
as, oh, this is kind of an
addiction movie.

477
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,880
This is a drug movie.
And Scorsese's just coming out

478
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,440
of like, I'm now sober and now
I'm making this movie about two

479
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,200
guys that can't help but do
anything but play pool and their

480
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,880
weird twisted motivations and
codependencies.

481
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:36,040
And so the first time when when
they're in, I can't remember

482
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,160
what.
It's called the the black.

483
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:42,400
Owned Chalky Hall in Chicago.
Yes, and Newman first.

484
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:47,200
Like like breaks one and crack
and you hear the crack and it,

485
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,960
it, it goes like cut, cut, cut
and all the cuts are like

486
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,520
converging up into his face and
it's like, oh, this dude just

487
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,360
got high.
Like he just felt like a rush of

488
00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:59,120
heroin when he freaking broke
this thing.

489
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,120
And you, and you kind of get a
hint of that when he's at the

490
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:06,000
bar flirting at the very start
of the movie and Vincent is in

491
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,240
the background breaking and he's
like, Yep, man, this, this guy's

492
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,680
got a thunderous crack.
Like he's just, he's just

493
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,080
breaking back there.
And you're like.

494
00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:19,000
Does does Paul Newman?
Is he getting a little excited

495
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,440
right now?
Explicit man, I don't, I don't

496
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,480
know about you, but I as a rule
of thumb, I never let another

497
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,120
man talk about my thunderous
crack.

498
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,680
That's that's.
Just I have a.

499
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:29,720
Question.
It's for me, Brett.

500
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:30,600
I have.
A question for you, Bob.

501
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,080
Why is John Turturro in this
movie?

502
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,880
What is his, what is his purpose
in the film 'cause he literally

503
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,560
like sets up Vincent and then
they set it up like he's going

504
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,200
to be the championship round,
like it's going to be Turturro

505
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:50,240
versus Newman or Tom Cruise and
and he just disappears, just

506
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,080
utterly disappears from the
movie.

507
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,960
I think The thing is like this
is Turturro before he's even a

508
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,760
little bit famous.
And you know, I think I think to

509
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,760
a lot of people he's still kind
of a that guy.

510
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,920
And like we know him as John
Turturro because we've seen him

511
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,480
in enough movies.
But like this is before he

512
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,640
starts working with the Cohens.
This is before this is 3 years

513
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,400
before do the right thing.
Like you know, and even in that

514
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,200
movie he's like the 5th build
person maybe.

515
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:19,400
So like, I think it's just like,
dude number one, that doesn't

516
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,360
work out.
And oh, you see him later and

517
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,320
you go, Oh yeah, that's dude
number one, you know, But

518
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,120
because we're like, oh, it's
John Turturro.

519
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,920
Oh, that's Forest Whitaker.
Like, yeah, we just remember it

520
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,120
more.
Yeah, and, and Martin is like,

521
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,280
cocaine is bad, here's my bad
character who does cocaine.

522
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,320
It's bad.
Nobody should do it.

523
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,040
All right, man, listen, we got
to drink some whiskey.

524
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,400
And when I say we, I mean me,
and I will explain that in a

525
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,160
second, but we've got a really
good Bardstown release here to

526
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,840
get into.
So Brad, what do you say you

527
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,440
watch me drink whiskey?
I'm ready, Bob.

528
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,320
All right everybody, so today I
am flying solo for a whiskey

529
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,000
review and we're checking out
the Bardstown Bourbon Company

530
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,400
Normandy Calvados Brandy Barrel
Finish, which is part of their

531
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,720
Distillery Reserve series.
Now we've tried both of the

532
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:16,440
prior releases in this series
this season from Bardstown, the

533
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,880
first of which was the Cathedral
French Oak, and the second was

534
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,400
that Hokkaido and we loved,
loved the Cathedral French Oak.

535
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,680
The Hokkaido we were pretty high
on, but I mean, cathedral French

536
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,600
oak for us was one of the best
whiskeys we've ever had on this

537
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,480
show.
So there's certainly a lot to

538
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,400
live up to.
Now when we're talking about

539
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,320
today's whiskey, the Normandy
Calvados finish.

540
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,520
I'm not super familiar with
Calvados.

541
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,720
And so like I've I've had to do
a little bit of digging.

542
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,680
We've said many, many times on
this podcast that Brandy is not

543
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,360
really our thing.
And so Calvados is a kind of a

544
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:54,080
protected type of Brandy that
has to be made in Normandy in

545
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,880
France.
And it's an apple Brandy

546
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,640
typically, although apparently
there are some exceptions that

547
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,680
it can be made from pears as
well.

548
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,400
Now Bardstown did a
collaboration with the Excuse My

549
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:10,720
French Here Christian Druan
house in in Normandy to procure

550
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,040
some Brandy barrels to finish
this whiskey in.

551
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,320
Now it says that this straight
bourbon whiskey was finished for

552
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:22,000
28 months in Calvados and it.
Consists of just two.

553
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,360
Whiskeys, both from Indiana, one
is 12 year and one is 13 year.

554
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:33,920
Both are a 7521 and 4% malted
barley, the 21 being a rye.

555
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,800
I love what Bardstown has been
doing with their

556
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,920
experimentation.
They're always pushing the

557
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,520
boundaries and they're always
willing to produce premium

558
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,680
whiskeys to do it.
I think retail these 375 mil

559
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:50,240
bottles is like 150 bucks, but
it's already going on the

560
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:55,520
secondary market for $500.00.
So this is a incredibly limited

561
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,680
supply that we're getting here.
I'm going to dive in.

562
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,880
I have a little bit of a tickle
in my throat, forgive me for

563
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,720
that today, but I have tasted
this once in the past.

564
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,560
We only got 1 bottle to split
between Brad and myself, and I

565
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,320
just have not seen Brad in
person to give him a sample of

566
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,920
this.
So I'm going to give you my

567
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,680
notes today.
Once Brad tries it, I will go

568
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,040
back on to the published version
of this on our website where you

569
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,760
can read the text of this and
I'll add Brad's score and

570
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,840
tasting notes on this Normandy
Calvados Brandy barrel finish.

571
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,800
But with that said, you get to
watch me stick my nose in this

572
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,880
glass and give you some nosing
and tasting notes.

573
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,360
Yeah.
And I think the thing with this

574
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,680
is like, it's really, really
dark stone fruit.

575
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,840
I mean, there's a ton of like
prune.

576
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,200
I get a little bit of date.
But it it has more of a wine

577
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,080
character.
It's like a like almost a Pinot

578
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:47,040
noir, super dark, syrupy wine
character going on with this.

579
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,520
And then a a really nice layer
of vanilla and oak.

580
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,520
So if you are a fan of Reds, and
I mean red wines, you're going

581
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,040
to love this because it it has
that sort of oak influenced

582
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,600
vanilla character wine to it.
I like this a lot.

583
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,280
I don't know what it kind of
portends.

584
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,280
I don't know if that means that
it's going to be sweet on the

585
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,120
palate.
But as far as the nose goes, I'm

586
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,080
going to give this a, let's call
it an 8 out of 10.

587
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,480
Yeah, super dark.
Lots of really, really good dark

588
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,320
stone fruit, like a pitted dark
cherry note.

589
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,160
It doesn't quite tip into the
cherry Robitussin, which is

590
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,800
where it loses Brad and I
sometimes when notes, when

591
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,960
whiskeys have that wine
character to them.

592
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,880
This stays in that sort of
vanilla range, but it's more

593
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,720
like a pure vanilla extract.
It's not sweetened vanilla.

594
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,360
There's almost a layer of almond
to this as well for me.

595
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,840
And then on the back of the
palate, it starts to tip into

596
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,880
being not bitter, but it has the
same effect of like black

597
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,160
licorice on my palate where you
do taste the annus.

598
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,840
And it also kind of coats your
palate in this sense of waxiness

599
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,920
as well.
Really, really nice.

600
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,120
But it is on the dryer side.
So this is not your super sweet

601
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,200
whiskey.
I like this a ton.

602
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,760
And you know, I, I'll, I'll ask
Brad what he thinks, but he is

603
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,920
not the world's biggest fan of
black licorice.

604
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,880
So I'm going to give it an 8
once again on the palate here.

605
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,560
And then when it comes to
finish, it's really long

606
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,760
lasting.
Now this is clocking in I

607
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,760
believe at, let's see, 104.2
proof, but it drinks way lower

608
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,920
than that without losing the
viscosity.

609
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:30,280
It's got a really nice thick,
long lasting mouthfeel and

610
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,400
finish to it, but you don't get
a ton of chest burn here.

611
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,760
This is like sipping on a really
high quality wine.

612
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,920
I'm sure that they're going to
get pissed at me for keeping

613
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,600
keeping to refer to it as wine
because it's a Brandy barrel,

614
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,520
but it just it reminds me of
drinking a really high quality

615
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,400
like a Bordeaux or something
that you've shelled out some

616
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,760
money for to sip on a summer
evening.

617
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,720
Really, really great, long
lasting mouth watering finish.

618
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,880
It doesn't really like pick up
any new notes for me.

619
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,800
There's still a ton of oak
influence.

620
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,440
I do think that that black
licorice note is kind of the

621
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,840
predominant thing for me here.
It tips a bit more herbal at the

622
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,400
end, but you get those waves of
cherry, you get the vanilla, you

623
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,080
get the the dark wine grape
character.

624
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,920
It's a heck of a good finish.
I'll give it an 8 once more and

625
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,680
that takes me to balance where
when you look across the board

626
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,120
at. 888.
From nose to taste to finish,

627
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,040
typically I like to bump up the
balance score as a result,

628
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,640
because there weren't any weird
peaks or valleys here.

629
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,760
I'm going to come all the way up
to a nine out of 10 on the

630
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,520
balance.
And then that takes us to the

631
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,240
value score, which is really
hard to give because this is, if

632
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:46,240
not sold out in person at
Bardstown, then it's darn close

633
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:49,720
to it.
If you can get this for $150.00

634
00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:52,520
MSRP.
And let me you know what, let me

635
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,840
double check that it is 150
MSRP.

636
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,480
Actually, I was wrong.
The suggested retail price on

637
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,960
this is $100 for the 375.
So it's right in line with where

638
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,600
Cathedral and Hokkaido were.
I think that this is probably my

639
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,920
second favorite.
I like this.

640
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,760
Better than the Hokkaido.
It does not approach the

641
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,160
cathedral French oak for me,
which is just in another

642
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,800
stratosphere.
I would pay $500.00 for another

643
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,160
375 of that.
Now would I pay $100 for this?

644
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,360
I think I.
Would this is a really good

645
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,280
whiskey and it like it has the,
the weightiness to it, even in

646
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,880
the mouthfeel that it feels like
you're thinking something

647
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,760
intended for special occasions
and for sipping.

648
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,000
And I think because of that,
like if you're in need of a good

649
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,560
holiday gift, if you're in need
of a new special occasion

650
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:45,720
whiskey, this could be the one
for you at $100 at anything more

651
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:49,200
than that, I would come down
considerably on my value score.

652
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,480
So I'm going to go ahead and
give it a 7 out of 10 on the

653
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,680
value score, assuming you can
find a bottle at or near MSRP.

654
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,400
And that will Take Me Out to a
40 out of 50 on this whiskey.

655
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,240
I'm interested to see what Brad
thinks of this. 135, for

656
00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:08,680
reference, is where we typically
start giving a thumbs up

657
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,320
recommendation. 40 out of 50 is
typically a no brainer

658
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,440
recommendation for us.
And if it approaches 45, then

659
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,160
it's like it's on another level.
This doesn't quite approach that

660
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,040
like all time transcendent list
for me, but this is one of the

661
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,480
better whiskeys I've had in
2025.

662
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,160
At a 40 out of 50, you could do
a lot worse than picking up this

663
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,400
Normandy Calvados Brandy Barrel
finish from Bardstown.

664
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,280
All right, let's.
Get back into talking about the

665
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,640
movie.
Thanks again, Bardstown.

666
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,200
All right, that was Bardstown.
Now let me get this correct.

667
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:48,680
Bardstown Distillery Reserve
Normandy Calvados Brandy Barrel

668
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,440
Finish.
Wow, a darn good whiskey that

669
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,840
I'm excited for you to try,
Brad, because I got some really

670
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,280
strong black licorice notes on
the palate here.

671
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,760
So we shall see, my friend.
Yeah, we'll see.

672
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:07,040
Indeed, I black licorice is like
Satan's little turdlets.

673
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,120
Dude, I will say Bardstown,
these distillery reserves

674
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,840
they've been doing.
Oh, they're so good.

675
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,920
Cathedral one we drank one of
the best.

676
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,600
One of the best things I've ever
drank.

677
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,120
I've ever had in my life and
like it.

678
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,320
I I will never have more of it
because it's all gone and it's

679
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,120
going for so much on the
secondary market.

680
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,360
But like, Yep Dang, Bardstown
continues to kill it, man.

681
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,800
Yeah, absolutely, dude.
Brad, do you have a 2 facts and

682
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,680
a falsehood for me on this
cruise miss?

683
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,160
Nah, man, it's cruise miss.
We're just here to have a good

684
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,120
time.
There's no falsehoods.

685
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,640
There's no falsehoods.
There's only, there's only

686
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:48,760
cruise.
Well in in lieu of 2 facts and a

687
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,320
falsehood I.
Want.

688
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,800
To talk a little bit more about
about Tom Cruise, because I want

689
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,560
to get your opinion.
We did a similar thing with

690
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,520
Hanks giving and we said, like,
aside from how good is this

691
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,960
movie, how good of a Hanks movie
is it?

692
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,680
Yeah.
And so, you know, we, we used

693
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:09,480
Hanks giving turkeys as our our
rating meter.

694
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,320
Then I think we need to use
Cruise Mysteries.

695
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,400
Yes.
How many cruise miss trees do

696
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:21,240
you give this as a cruise movie?
Man, I mean, that's an

697
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:24,280
interesting question.
If we're going, let's just go

698
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,920
out of like out of the 12 days
of cruise miss, we'll go with 12

699
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:35,520
being the maximum.
I think I would give this oh,

700
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,800
I'd probably give it like 7
cruise miss trees out of 12 out

701
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,880
of 12.
Yeah, like it's, it's a

702
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,920
decently.
Cruise 56% cruise miss trees.

703
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,560
Yeah, OK, cool.
It's not it's not iconic Cruise.

704
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:56,600
Now, like I said, it's got manic
Cruise vibes 100%.

705
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:03,040
And I think you can see in this
film, he has like really

706
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,400
intense.
Laugh energy that it's so easy

707
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:12,320
to imagine him, what, five years
later in Mission Impossible 91,

708
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,280
I want to say. 9096, yeah, it's
a decade after.

709
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,280
Oh, 96?
OK, so a decade later, sorry.

710
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:22,880
Yep, you can easily see a decade
later he hones that like manic

711
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,120
energy into manic focused
energy.

712
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,560
And in this movie, it's not
focused.

713
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,760
It's just like manic and
laughing.

714
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,920
And I'm just going to go beat
the best guy in the pool hall.

715
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:39,920
And and it's not, it's not that
Mission Impossible Tom Cruise

716
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,680
that we know and love.
And so I I think it's like

717
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:47,920
getting there, but beyond that,
it's Martin Scorsese and it's

718
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:53,080
Paul Newman.
Like we have other heavy

719
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:58,480
hitters, you know, for Paul
Newman at the at the past the

720
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,800
peak of his career, but still
has a lot of weight in

721
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,480
Hollywood.
And Scorsese, like you said,

722
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,680
like we now look at it and go,
yeah, that's Martin, right?

723
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,440
When you're working with two
guys like that and you're as

724
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,920
young as Tom Cruise was, I don't
know if this is like the cruise

725
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,440
miss to beat all cruise miss
movies, but it's still, it's

726
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,320
still Tom Cruise being Tom
Cruise man.

727
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,160
It is hard when you go back pre
Mission Impossible because

728
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,200
Cruise is not only like figuring
out what kind of projects he

729
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,280
wants to do, but I feel like
he's really challenging himself

730
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,560
more.
And sometimes it works and

731
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,640
sometimes it doesn't.
And every great movie star, not

732
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:38,240
great actor, but great movie
star finds their specific like

733
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:42,240
movie star persona and niche and
they drill down into it.

734
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,000
Like we've talked about the Leo
thing.

735
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,640
Like once Leo hits departed and
he's doing like tortured guy,

736
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,440
like that run he goes on in the
the mid 2000s to through the

737
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,320
2010 is insane, right?
And I feel like, you know,

738
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,000
you've got some guys that can
continue to experiment like a

739
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,280
Denzel who does a ton of
different kinds of movies, but

740
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,040
he's he is such a singular
presence that you you see Denzel

741
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,440
Cruz, I think is on the other
end of the spectrum where it's

742
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:14,280
like I found Mission Impossible
and I am going to so hyper focus

743
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,680
on movies like this forever now
with a, you know, a one off here

744
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,080
and there.
Yeah, Jack Reacher, it will be

745
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:26,160
out of nowhere it.
Will be the most honed persona.

746
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,040
And so yeah, it's it's difficult
to give this like a 10 out of 10

747
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:34,040
or 12 out of 12 cruise mystery,
but I kind of like it better.

748
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,320
It's it's fun watching Cruz in a
mode that you're not used to

749
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,160
seeing him.
See now I would give Top Gun

750
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,960
like a 10 out of 12 Christmas
trees.

751
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,760
Right.
We're used to him in that role

752
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,520
now.
Yeah, exactly.

753
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,120
And that like that's kind of
what defines Tom Cruise is like

754
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:57,920
smooth, confident, best at what
he does, hits a challenge that

755
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,640
like pushes him to become even
better than he ever was.

756
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,600
And so the Top Gun feels like we
got a lot of Christmas trees

757
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,600
hanging around, color of money,
like tech.

758
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,840
Like if you just described the
movie, it technically falls

759
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,960
within that wheelhouse when you
actually watch it.

760
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,840
It's a lot more nuanced than
that, which I, like you said,

761
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,240
I'm I'm fine with.
I really enjoy the fact that he

762
00:43:21,240 --> 00:43:24,600
made a movie like this.
I don't know if it's the most

763
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,240
Tom Cruise of them all.
There's definitely hints of that

764
00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:34,360
like maniacal dedication in the
Cruz thing here.

765
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,400
And like, I read a, a fact
online today that like Newman

766
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,280
had said that I guess Cruz was
training for like 10 hours a day

767
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,680
until he got to the point where
he, like Newman said it.

768
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,080
I think the kid could have gone
pro as a pool player.

769
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,400
And I'm like, I'm not surprised
because, you know, the the

770
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,840
iconic moment from this movie
from the Cruz perspective is

771
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,360
when they're playing Warren
Zevon's Werewolves of London.

772
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,600
And you get that shot where Cruz
hits every single ball into

773
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,880
every single pocket.
And it's one shot that just

774
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,120
spins around the table with him
as he goes.

775
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,760
And he's doing the samurai sword
and he's doing the hair is

776
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,840
perfect.
And he's got the T-shirt that

777
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,680
just says Vince.
And it is like, this is the

778
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,800
coolest thing I've ever seen.
It's like it's both insanely

779
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,360
cheesy looking and cool.
And I think that's where Cruz

780
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:24,320
lives.
Right?

781
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,280
Yeah.
Also, his hair, he had like a

782
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,680
little bit of a 50s pompadour
going on.

783
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:36,120
Yeah, it's so intense.
And there's within the world of

784
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,320
the movie, they're they're
they're like, man, look at this

785
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,600
asshole.
Like, whoa, what is he doing?

786
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,480
Watching it as a viewer?
Like this guy still feels

787
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,280
weirdly innocent as he does all
this.

788
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,440
Like he has no idea what else is
going on.

789
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:56,320
He just wants to be the best
player in the room and to show

790
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,200
off the fact that he's the best
player in the room.

791
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,480
And there's almost like an honor
to that.

792
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,800
That feels a lot better than
where he ends up at the end of

793
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,440
the film.
Yeah.

794
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,320
Now on the Newman side of
things, I was thinking a lot

795
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,200
about like if they remade this
movie or if they did another

796
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,840
sequel, Do you have Cruz in the
Fast Eddie kind of role?

797
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:17,840
And.
Oh yeah.

798
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,480
You know that what's funny
though, is like watching it, I'm

799
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,600
like, oh, this is a Brad Pitt
performance.

800
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,720
Paul Newman is giving a late era
Brad Pitt performance.

801
00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:31,640
And we've talked extensively
about how Brad Pitt looks like

802
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,560
Robert Redford but behaves like
Paul Newman.

803
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,840
And so I'm watching this movie
and I'm like, I honestly would

804
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:43,400
pay so much money to watch The
Color of Money remake with Brad

805
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,440
Pitt and Timothy Chalamet and
just give me that all day.

806
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,400
Like all day dude.
Timothy, he would be out there

807
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,520
just playing pool for 12 hours a
day just to prove he's better

808
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,640
than Tom Cruise, who only did 10
hours a.

809
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,000
Day, dude.
He is the future of cinema.

810
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,080
We need him.
We need him playing 12 hours a

811
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,880
day.
Dude, I've only seen him in Dune

812
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,960
and Dune 2 so I don't I don't
know if I have enough Chalamet

813
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,880
recognition to know how I feel
about him.

814
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,520
He's going to be right there
again this year for Best Actor.

815
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,720
Man, really Marty McFly, Marty
Supreme.

816
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:24,640
In fact, now that I think about
it, I'm going to go into Marty

817
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,000
Supreme thinking about it as a
double feature for Color of

818
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,440
Money 'cause it seems very
similar.

819
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,400
So OK, on that note, Brad, I
think it's time for us to to

820
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,520
wind things down a bit here on
this cruise miss.

821
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,760
And you know, we'll give final
scores.

822
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,840
I also want to just say like, I
think the thing that was missing

823
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,600
for me and and it seems
intentional was like if you're

824
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,680
going to make a movie about
hustling people, I want to see

825
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,120
more hustles.
There's only like 3 hustles in

826
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,200
this whole movie, dude.
And I think go.

827
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,680
Ahead, go ahead.
What when they when they do the

828
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,600
the two brothers and a stranger
hustle.

829
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,760
What are the best scenes of the
movie?

830
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,000
It's incredible.
I like everything's focused.

831
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,880
Everything's moving.
It's it's a great scene.

832
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,600
And you know if you've ever seen
the Hustler, folks like it.

833
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,200
It tells you.
Like what the end that the tell

834
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,520
us of this all is like, this is
not fun.

835
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,560
You are going to get beaten and
crushed and your reputation

836
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,760
destroyed.
And that's the end of this.

837
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,840
And so this movie is in that
lineage where like it's fun for

838
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:32,400
a second and then ultimately not
fun when Paul Newman loses his

839
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:37,080
shirt playing Forest Whitaker or
getting conned by Tom Cruise.

840
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,640
And I think it's really
intentional because when you

841
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,880
have Paul Newman in a movie
where he's playing essentially a

842
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,800
con man, everyone's going to be
thinking The Sting.

843
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,080
I had so much fun watching The
Sting.

844
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,720
This is like that, but with
pool.

845
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,840
And I think Scorsese is telling
you absolutely not.

846
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,760
That's not what this is.
Yeah.

847
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:59,080
However, I will say from an
enjoyment standpoint, I probably

848
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,480
would have enjoyed watching the
fun version of The Color of

849
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,240
Money a little bit more than
that 100% does.

850
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,320
That make sense 100%, yeah.
Seeing the hustles, seeing them,

851
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,400
like work out new things that
they're going to do, new ways

852
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,120
they're going to hustle people
would have been so much more fun

853
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,560
than this.
Like, weird psychodrama that we

854
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,840
get that is good.
It's not great.

855
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:23,840
Yeah.
Yeah.

856
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,920
And I think that kind of gets
into final scores here, Brad.

857
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,920
Now this is your first exposure
to this film, to the hustler

858
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,720
kind of ecosystem here.
I want to hear where you're

859
00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:37,000
landing on the color of money.
Do you want to do 2 facts in a

860
00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:39,120
or two facts in a faucet?
Do you want to do?

861
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,720
Let's make a double.
Oh, we yeah, I'll tell you what,

862
00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:46,080
let's do final scores, OK, And
then fold your let's make it a

863
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,960
double into your final score.
Yeah, final score.

864
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:55,680
I am going to give this a 7.5.
I like there's enough greatness

865
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,680
in little individual scenes that
I'm like, oh, like part of me

866
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,760
wants to give it like a 6 1/2
seven.

867
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,920
I do think that there's some
great shots, even one that I

868
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,280
sent you from the start of the
film where Scorsese has four

869
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,120
different levels of depth to a
shot where it's I think it's

870
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:17,400
like Paul Newman in the very
back and then his Tom Cruise's

871
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,160
girlfriend sitting in the mid
shot.

872
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,000
There's somebody else and then
there's Tom Cruise's hand at the

873
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,680
very front breaking or hitting a
ball and it's just a mind

874
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,560
bogglingly cool.
It's insane, dude.

875
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,880
Oh my gosh.
And so there's stuff like that

876
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,120
that is enough for me to jump it
up to a 7.5.

877
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,440
I'm.
Going to be at A7 on this one

878
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,520
and I'm it's the same reasons as
you.

879
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,960
I think that ultimately I like
the average we're coming out to

880
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,000
like this is a 7.2 out of 10
kind of movie for me.

881
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,760
Yeah, and yeah, I think it's
like a six and a half, six

882
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,720
script that is elevated by some
insane stylistic choices.

883
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,600
I think, you know, I I can't
wait till we do some De Palma

884
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,160
movies on this podcast.
We've done one, which is the

885
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:05,040
first Mission Impossible.
But the kind of shots Scorsese's

886
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:09,240
going for here is like his most
De Palma it with the split

887
00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:12,160
diopters and the multiple
layers, you know, of like

888
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,320
horizontal planes and all that
kind of stuff.

889
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,240
It's a fun movie to watch.
I just wish it was a more fun

890
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:19,280
movie.
Yeah.

891
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,800
Do you know what I mean?
100% and I think, I hope that

892
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,960
I'm going for more fun movie.
I I am going with a movie for a

893
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:28,680
friend.
Bob.

894
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,840
I have never seen this movie,
but for my Let's make it a

895
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,840
Double, I'm going to pair this
with Rounders 'cause I have been

896
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,520
told by my good friend Brandon
that it is his favorite movie

897
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,720
that he has watched more than
any other film in his life and I

898
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:46,720
need to watch it.
So Brandon, I'm going to watch

899
00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:48,520
it soon.
I'm gonna pair this with

900
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,000
rounders.
I'm gonna pick a movie.

901
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,880
I I think honestly, I would.
I would pick a movie like The

902
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,640
Sting, just for something more
fun.

903
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:57,320
Yeah.
Totally.

904
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,760
But I'm gonna go back to a movie
that came out around the same

905
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,040
time as The Hustler, and it's a
Steve McQueen movie that

906
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,560
essentially follows the same
basic beats, except Steve

907
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,640
McQueen is a poker player.
And the name of the movie is The

908
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:13,040
Cincinnati Kid.
And it's it's Steve McQueen.

909
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,480
And then, like the big bad of
the movie that he's trying to to

910
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,840
beat in poker is Edward G
Robinson, like late in his

911
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,720
career.
Great.

912
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,080
Great movie, dude.
Yeah.

913
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,960
If you ever get around to
watching old poker movies, The

914
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,240
Cincinnati Kid is a real good
one, man.

915
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:31,320
Yeah.
Edward Edward GI know the name

916
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,840
and I can literally see his face
but what what movie am I

917
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,640
thinking of him from?
You're thinking of him from

918
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,920
Double Indemnity, where he was,
yes, Fred Macmurray's boss.

919
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,040
You know the little guy with
always got the cigar.

920
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,960
Yeah, yeah, I for some reason I
was thinking that he would fit

921
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:52,160
in 12 angry men like.
No, that's not George C Scott.

922
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,240
What's his name?
Lee, J.

923
00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:56,680
Cobb, Lee J Cobb.
Maybe that's what I was thinking

924
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,080
about anyways.
Alright guys, Cruise miss.

925
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,160
It's freaking cruise Miss Mary.
Cruise Miss Mary.

926
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,920
Cruise miss everybody.
At Film and Whiskey, we are just

927
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,560
speaking life and joy into your
homes.

928
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,280
This holiday season, I hope you
are celebrating with a Tom

929
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,440
Cruise movie of your own.
Yeah, yeah.

930
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,280
Let us know any.
Big Christmas plans.

931
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,280
Any big Christmas plans?
We had my family over today.

932
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:23,880
It's like a week before
Christmas.

933
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,280
We have a new baby, which means
we get to play the baby card.

934
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,400
Everybody gets to come to us.
Haley's brother's coming in from

935
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:33,960
out of town.
It's going to be great.

936
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:40,360
I am taking my two older girls
to a showing of The Nutcracker

937
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,640
that the Columbus like ballet
Symphony puts on.

938
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,440
Every year they they do The
Nutcracker for like a month, but

939
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,400
they do 2 special showings
called my first Nutcracker and

940
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,680
it's just incredible.
I took Sadie last year.

941
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,880
It's one hour long.
They have like stuff outside

942
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,360
before and after and they like
bring the, they like bring the

943
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,440
rat king on stage with his
helmet off and they're like,

944
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,720
Hey, this is my friend Sean and
and Sean plays a character

945
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:09,120
called the rat King and watch he
puts his helmet on so the kids

946
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,160
aren't scared.
It's it's like really well done

947
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:16,000
and really cute and I cannot
wait to take the girls to that.

948
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,000
Sean the Rat King changing lives
out here.

949
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,880
Yeah, that's right.
Oh man, what about you, man?

950
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:28,200
What do you do for Christmas?
This is an on year for my wife's

951
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,280
family.
So my wife has this gigantic

952
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,960
extended Italian family and we
do a year off, a year on and

953
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,320
even on the off years, our
little nuclear kind of family is

954
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,360
still like 20 people deep now.
So when all the cousins come in,

955
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,200
we've got like 75 people.
We have to like rent a hall.

956
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,760
So it's going to be we've got
intense Italian Christmas

957
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,160
happening.
Italians keeping the local pool

958
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,640
halls in business.
Yes, listen, we have a small

959
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,320
Hungarian contingent now.
It's me and my brother-in-law

960
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,000
and like 1 uncle.
And so we carved out a little

961
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:05,720
corner where we make pierogies
and I make Hungarian sausage,

962
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,280
and every once in a while we'll
have paprikash too, while they

963
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,320
all eat their ravioli and stuff
is.

964
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,840
Is that what you call it?
Bob Your your Hungarian sausage.

965
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,240
I sure do, man.
And I call you Sean the Rat

966
00:54:17,240 --> 00:54:20,160
King.
Guys, from us to you, Merry

967
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,800
Christmas.
Thank you so much for sticking

968
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,920
with us for the color of money.
We'll be back next week with

969
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,640
another regularly scheduled
episode.

970
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,720
If you want to leave a message
about the color of money, you

971
00:54:29,720 --> 00:54:33,400
can find us on any of our social
media accounts, Facebook,

972
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,600
Twitter, Instagram, Tiktok or
YouTube at Film Whiskey.

973
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,800
Or if you want to tell us what
Cruise Miss movie you will be

974
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,640
choosing this year, we would
love to hear what you're going

975
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,400
to be watching on Cruise Miss.
Let us know.

976
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,080
We have a Discord channel.
We're on there every day talking

977
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,320
to you guys.
You can find a link to our

978
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,960
Discord server at the end of
every single one of our show

979
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,760
notes.
Back to our Season 1 re watches

980
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,920
next Tuesday, folks, but until
then, I'm Bob Book.

981
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,880
I'm Brad G.
And we'll see you next time.