Arrival / Woodford Reserve Wheat Whiskey

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In 2016 director Den, evil nerve
than a star.

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Amy Adams gave the world a tense
and introspective sci-fi drama

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in 2022.
We escaped the clutches of

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Scotland to return to America to
try a fan.

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Favorite brand, the film is
arrival.

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The whiskey is Woodford, wheat.
And we'll review them both.

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This is the film and whiskey
podcast.

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Welcome to the film and whiskey
podcast.

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Where each week, we review a
classic movie and a glass of

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whiskey.
I'm Bob book, I'm Reggie and

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this week we are looking at.
Didn't even has 2000 knee. 2016

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film arrival Brad.
This is, this is a movie from

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your season 5 list.
We are nearing the end of

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season, five, I think I've got
two movies, left.

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I think you've got this one, and
one more.

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And then we've got a Harry
Potter and we are done done for

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the season.
Bob, I think that it did just

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been way too long since we hung
out with our Boyd Denis.

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Yeah.
So yep.

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We had to get him on this
season.

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I gotta just go ahead and call
you out at this point, because

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Cuz I've kind of rake you over
the coals for it, but I told you

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on like many, many occasions,
dude, you got to go to the movie

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theater and you get you have to
see Dune before it leaves

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theaters, like it is Denis
Villeneuve with the biggest

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budget.
He's ever.

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Had making an awesome sci-fi
movie like there.

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That should check every Brad g
box and you were like, all

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right.
Yeah, I'll try to get around to

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it and you missed it, man.
Dude, all I have to say is this.

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There is Oh, chance.
That, that movie does not come

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back into theaters, at some
point in our lifetime, I mean,

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maybe.
But like, I think I'm gonna be

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way harder to get you to go to
like, the 20th anniversary

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showing that happens for one day
when we're on season.

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Like 52 of the show, it'll be
like, Survivor.

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Oh man, dude, if I can, if I can
remain a relevant as long as

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Jeff Probst as then I'm doing
something right.

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All right, so of the Denis
Villeneuve movies that you have

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seen because we know that Dune
is not one of them.

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I have to imagine this ranks
pretty highly because like I

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said, this came off of your list
and re watching this movie Brad

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because I hadn't watched it
since I saw it in the theater.

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I gotta say that I'm kind of
surprised that this would be a

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movie that appealed to Brad G.
Like it is a very like you said,

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introspective kind of slow
moving film and it really takes

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its time.
And so I'd like to hear like one

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of yours.
I love your subtle digs.

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I'm not even trying to be such a
movie.

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I'm not even trying to be subtle
about it.

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Like, yeah, art and intelligent.
He would love things like that.

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What I've realized is that when
you pick the slow-moving film,

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you're like, oh, it's
introspective when I pick the

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slow-moving film, you're like,
this is boring boring as hell.

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Why would you ever pick this
Jesse James?

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I don't know what what movie
you're referring to Bob.

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Bob, so we're going to move on
from there.

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But seriously tell me like what
is it that draws you to this

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film partially, it's the score.
Hmm.

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Nice.
I just love this move.

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Is this a Johan Johansen score?
It is you can do 100 score.

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Yeah, there's a there's this
weird like Swedish Electronica

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artist that I will occasionally
listen to and I can't think of

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his name at the moment but When
I first saw this movie, I would

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have sworn up and down that like
the final song that it's very

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prominent, the end of the movie
but it kind of plays throughout

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I could have sworn that.
It was one of his songs and I

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was like really pumped about
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But all that going to say, I
think the music in this movie is

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freaking fantastic and we need
more Swedish Norwegian.

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Like weird Swedish
representation needed you in

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film scores.
We do man cuz it's spectacular.

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All right, so that's one thing.
What else?

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One thing I think, what really
draws me in with this movie is

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the way it uses language as a
tool.

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And I think that it rewards
multiple viewings because you

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just kind of pick up on little
things that you didn't see

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before.
And even like the opening line

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of the movie is, I used to think
that this was the beginning of

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your story and like even That
little twist, like you like when

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you first walk out of the
theaters, you don't remember

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that.
That was the first line of the

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movie, but when you watch it a
second time, it's just gotta

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like it, just it just sits there
and you're like, oh oh wait this

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isn't this isn't the start of
the story because time travel

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and see it in the future and
it's you get it.

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Thus, you can tailor alarm is
going off right now.

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We have not as we've not given
our fans, the spoiler warning,

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they deserve yet.
That is true.

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I how popular would you say
arrival was?

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I like how, what percentage of
filmin whiskey Nation do you

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think has seen this movie?
Oh, I would say it's moderately

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popular.
Like, I don't think like, 40%,

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the Christmas will like even
comparing it to villeneuve's

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other movies.
Like prisoners made, okay money

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at the box office, but it was
like a long drama and then

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sicario came out, didn't do
great at the box office but that

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everyone caught it on Netflix
and on video and everything else

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and they were like, oh this is a
great movie.

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So I feel like tons of people
have seen sicario on video, you

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know, on VHS, you know what can
ican I rant for like 30 seconds?

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Yeah, go for it man.
I don't understand why red box

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is failing as a business model
because like the way movies are

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working now is that they put a
movie in theaters for like three

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weeks.
And then while it's still in

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theaters, they're releasing it
to digital and you can rent it

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digitally for like nine dollars
and then if you wait like

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another three weeks, they're
like, no one.

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Buys DVDs anymore.
Let's just put it in red box and

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so while it's still like six
dollars or eight dollars to

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rent, it on whatever streaming
platform you want to rent it

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from, you could go to your
nearest grocery store or gas

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station and get it for a buck.
And I just don't understand how

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like, we have reached a point As
Americans where we are so lazy.

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That like you can't just go get
the Blu-ray for a dollar and

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you'd rather like spend the nine
dollars to watch it.

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Amazon Prime, or whatever.
Bob, I think that you thinking

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that America couldn't get any
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It was that was the Fatal flaw.
It's like thinking Fat Bastard.

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Couldn't eat another chicken
wing.

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All right, that's fair, that's
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I appreciate it though, man.
I'm with you, dude, you would

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think that the idea of saving
money would be like a good

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impetus to go out and rent it
for a buck.

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But I, uh, I guess I'll see.
Is this, I've watched many of my

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young friends spend like nine
dollars to get one cheeseburger

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and a fry from Wendy's and it's
just so that it can be delivered

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to them.
Yet been like if there's

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anything that ages me faster,
it's probably the fact that I

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just don't understand the
GrubHub like food being

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delivered Ukraine's.
I'm like listen man somebody

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gave me when we when we had
Sadie.

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He gave me a 25 dollar gift card
and to GrubHub and Hailey.

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And I were like, man, let's get
some like B-Dubs.

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Right?
So like I got like a sandwich.

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It was 10 bucks, Haley, got some
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we're like, all right.
It's like eighteen, nineteen

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dollars.
We ended up spending money.

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For sure ended up costing like
$30 to get our 18 dollar order

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delivered to us.
I was so pissed.

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Oh man, yeah, we're we are a
lazy people.

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All that to say I think probably
like 40 percent of our audience

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has seen a rival.
I would say 40.

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All right.
So spoiler alert for that thing.

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We said four minutes ago.
Yeah.

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You know, I was this is a really
good movie that you should go to

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Red Box and rent, are we gonna
like die on the hill of red box?

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Like a mile of red Bob's.
Every every week the the it's

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going to be like the whiskey
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Would you recommend buying or
red boxing?

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That's great.
All right, one more thing before

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we get into Brad explains
because this is just a weird

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episode already and I'm going to
lean into it.

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I gotta say that I have started
identifying a pattern with Brad

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G selections this season and you
know my pattern is very obvious

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and right there at the top of
everyone's Minds.

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It's always the father-son
dynamic.

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Yeah.
In the last few pics Brad, you

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have had the Prince of Egypt and
now this movie and so you are a

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really lean and into the dead
children motif.

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I've got, I've got strained,
parental relationships, you've

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got dead kids.
So Bob, I think that 2 out of 15

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movies, it does not a theme make
I might be reaching but you

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know, just a little bit.
It's just that the wheel of

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fate, put them next to each
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It sure did man.
And this movie just starts off

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with a dead kid.
It's like, hey, welcome to

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welcome to this alien movie.
Hope you enjoy this amazing?

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Yeah.
Child.

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A hood, cancer.
Yikes.

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All right.
Well, on that note, let's segue

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very abruptly into Brad
explains.

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But just as abruptly, we're
going to segue into a Segway an

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important announcement.
Bob, you have an important

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announcement.
I always have the important

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We asked a discussion question,

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that's pretty fun.
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All right, Brad, let's jump into

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Brad explains.
This is the part of the podcast,

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where Brad breaks down the plot
of the movie that he has just

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seen often for the first time
Brad, you've got 60 seconds on

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the clock.
Can you break down in a spoiler?

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Rific fashion, the plot of
arrival.

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Arrival is a film about the
importance of Image you follow

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Amy Adams character.
Her name is Luis, you follow

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her.
She is a professor of

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linguistics, when aliens
touchdown on Earth, for the

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first time she is brought on by
the military as an expert to try

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and help them communicate with
the aliens.

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There's 12 different landing
locations and through a series

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of different tactics and ways of
engaging.

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With the aliens, they slowly
learn.

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This circular language, that is
offered to them.

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And in the midst of that Louise
finds her mind, changing she

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realizes that the process of
learning this language is

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changing how she understands
time.

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And through this, she is able to
prevent world war three

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essentially and the weapon that
is offered to them is actually

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language that can help them
communicate better and it's a

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story about life and loss and
the importance of living your

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life, no matter.
Consequences.

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There it is, man.
Boom, Brad.

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I think that there are two
movies that we've done on this

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podcast that are pretty close
cousins to this movie, kind of

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thematically.
And I'm there like first

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cousins, or like second cousins
once or how far down the family

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tree, are they.
But I think the two really

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obvious ones, I guess I'm just
gonna go ahead and dive in.

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And I want to tease this because
I think this would be a good

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thing for the second half of the
episode.

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But watching this movie this
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me.
It just it didn't when I was in

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the theater and it doesn't now
and I have a really hard time

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explaining it and so I kind of
like you to help me parse out

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why it doesn't work for me or at
least, you know, be a listening

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ear while you completely
disagree.

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I can be like a therapist for
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This says, yeah, exactly tell me
how you really feel but I

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realized in trying to explain
why this movie doesn't work that

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I kept coming back to all of my
arguments that I made during As

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Nolan's Interstellar.
Hey, and then I was like oh it's

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because this movie is doing Evil
news Interstellar and the more I

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watched towards the end of the
film, The More I realized, oh

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this is, this is Denis
Villeneuve.

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Trying to do Christopher Nolan
like this is him trying to make

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a Nolan film down to the editing
at the end of the movie.

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And I got to be real with you.
I love Denis Villeneuve and I

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think that he is one of the
finest filmmakers alive.

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I've but no one can do Nolan
like Nolan.

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And I think part of what makes
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outlier for me, in villeneuve's
catalog, is that it seems like

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he's trying really hard to show
that he could make a movie, like

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somebody else.
All right?

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Before I go into counselor mode,
I'm going to give you one big

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reason.
I think this is a better.

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I don't know if that's a better
movie than Interstellar.

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Just different to ours. 49
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Yeah that's that's that's Nolan.
Nolan does need.

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Someone to tell him what smile
like you don't need that scene

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but like was just, I was gonna
say because --for a drama about

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aliens and their language.
I think that arrival has the

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possibility of being too slow
but because it's only two hours,

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you know, two hours long just
under I think that when you mix

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in the opening part where she's
like parsing out her daughter's

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death and then you add the end
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kind of her heart is racing and
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mystery.
I think that you kind of have

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this movie in three parts and
for me, it works really

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smoothly, but I want to hear
more Bob, tell me about where

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the bad movie touched you.
Well, we will press pause on

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that.
Relation because I do think this

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would be a really good kind of
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discussion and I want to start
with something that I think we

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can both agree on and that is
Amy Adams.

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Dude, she, she is truly one of
my favorite actresses.

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Oh yeah.
Of the modern era.

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I think that what she's able to
do to go from a movie like

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American Hustle, I think a year
or two before this into this

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role.
She's just a stellar actress.

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I started watching.
Anted with my, my kids, a few

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weeks ago, because it's just a
fun movie and that was a movie

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that she was.
I know for sure, Golden Globe

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nominated for, I don't know if
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not, for that movie.
She deserved a nomination and

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the crazy thing about that is
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two, maybe other actresses
alive, that could pull off the

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role in Enchanted, the way she
did because there's a way to

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pretend like you're being a
princess and Is a way to pretend

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like you're being a Disney
princess while also being in, on

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the joke and winking at the
camera.

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And yeah, she does it with so
much earnestness that it's like

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it's almost like watching the
more heartwarming moments of,

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like, Michael Scott on the
office.

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Where, Mmm.
Yeah.

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We're Michael Scott's not always
aware of Michael, Scott's own

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limitations and Steve Carell is
in those moments.

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Especially is not making fun of
Michael Scott.

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Like he's just Just sincerely
being who Michael Scott is, and

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I think that's like there's
something to that the way that

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Amy Adams, Steve Carell actors
like that, respect their

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characters and respect their
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That, like, Amy Adams has always
had that it's just this this

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resolved and the sincerity and
this dignity and it just comes

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through in everything she does.
Bobby, you just use the word

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that I was going to throw out
there.

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She is sincere in her
performance.

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It's she like, she's authentic
in the way she portrays, you

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know, this this linguist and
arrival, I will say.

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Every time you say, I don't know
who else could have played this,

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it gets my brain to thinking
about who could have, do you

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think Anne Hathaway could hold
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I don't and chanted.
I don't, I think and I like Anne

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Hathaway and she's a more
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Amy Adams is.
But I think Anne Hathaway at

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heart is like a theater kid.
Hmm.

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Like she just has that kind of
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they'll probably Of the
competitiveness to but like

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there, everyone knows, like when
you were in high school, the kid

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who was like really into doing
musical theater whatever and

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like I love participating in
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myself a theater kid if that
makes sense.

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Like, there's just a certain
attitude, that, that, that those

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kids have about what they do.
And I think that Amy Adams is

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like, I don't even know if I
would say, like, she's too nice

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because I don't know, Amy Adams.
But there is there's a level of

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Miss that I don't think would
come across with Anne Hathaway.

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Do you know what?
I watched her in that just

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utterly terrified me and like
shook me to my core what?

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Amy Adams?
Yeah, what nocturnal animals,

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dude, you've brought it up a
couple times on this show.

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I think that movies.
Great.

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I know you didn't like it but I
think it was literally the most

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terrifying thing I've ever
watched in my life.

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Like how good is Gyllenhaal
though to like to, oh my God, I

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could watch those two.
Actors in.

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You can put them in any movie.
Anything?

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Absolutely anything.
I will say if we're getting back

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to her rival and your
Interstellar comparison really

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quickly.
Can you just imagine how bad

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Interstellar would be if you
replace McConaughey with Jeremy

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Renner?
Thank you for making that.

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Okay, so great segue and I'm
realizing this about Jeremy

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Renner, he actually seems like a
pretty great guy like from

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everything I've heard about him.
I've never heard a bad story

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about him and dude he seems
pretty primitive.

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Have you?
Heard of his, his like social

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media app that he tried to steal
his eyes app.

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Jeremy Renner app.
Yes.

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I feel so bad for him like he
got internet bullied into

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shutting down his own app.
So here's the thing though, it's

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like man, I remember when he
broke through with The Hurt

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Locker and everybody was like
this guy, right?

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And then they tried him out in
Mission Impossible and you could

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tell they were going to make him
like the bridge.

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He was going to be the new
Mission Impossible guy.

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And then Tom Cruise was like,
no, I'm still doing this and

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then you just went away and then
they were like All right.

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Well now he's going to be the
new Jason Bourne and then Matt

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David was like nah I'm back just
and then they kick Runner out

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again and you know he does
hawk-i and and Hawkeyes thing is

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like I don't have sleeves like I
think that's like his whole

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character wrapped up it and and
I think that's kind of like

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Jeremy Renner to me.
Now he's a pretty good actor but

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every time I see him in
something I just can't help.

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But wonder who else could have
done this that isn't Jeremy

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Renner And I feel guilty for
saying that, but like, he's

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basically a meme of like,
generic white action actor.

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Yeah.
And I think like, I just like,

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literally I just made that
phrase up, but I think I don't

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have, sleeves is probably like
the vibe.

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He gives in every movie.
That's the extent of my

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character.
Like, when you, when you go to

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play Pick-up basketball, to why
there's always that one guy who

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comes in a sleeveless just
writer, not a tank established e

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a cut-offs.
Jeremy Renner everyone.

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Yeah, I don't know, like he's a
pretty good actor but I think

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this movie would have you worked
with like nine other major

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actors better than with him.
Yeah, I think that if this movie

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suffers in any way, it's the
fact that you never buy into the

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relationship between Renner and
Adams.

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And the thing is, I don't I hate
saying that cuz I don't even

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think he did a bad job.
Like I like, In this movie, he

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was pleasant.
I think he played the role that

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was written for him.
Well so I mean, maybe what I'm

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griping with is more of the
writer.

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I agree that could have given
him a little bit more to do with

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the film.
I totally agree and that's this

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is where one of the areas where
I think the script is like maybe

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this is where somebody else came
in and touch things up a little

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bit, but they give him kind of
like the the George Clooney

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part, like he's just sarcastic
enough and he's just waiting.

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Enough that they want him to be
the comic relief and they wanted

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to have a little bit of an edge,
but to still be really charming.

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And I think that this would be
like a perfect Clooney part,

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because that's the way it's
written, but then, I also feel

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like they set this character up
to fail in so many ways because

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he's in a different movie than
everyone else.

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Like there is a, there's a very
somber kind of demeanor about

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this whole movie.
And I understand that, like the

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point is that she's supposed to
get attracted to this character

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because he kind of breaks
through that or whatever.

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But even like they give him a
random bit of narration for a

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while in the middle of the
movie, which doesn't really make

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sense because he never comes
back as a narrator.

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But, but even in that kind of,
you know, few lines that he has

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in a voiceover, there's a few
little jokes thrown in there,

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and it just kind of, it makes it
feel like 45 minutes.

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You're watching a different film
than you're actually watching.

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Yeah.
And I think, for me, that they

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really did make the whole movie,
kind of uneven because of the

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presence of that character.
Yeah.

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Yeah I think that the best way
to sum it up.

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Is you just can't fit jokes in
with like Norwegian orchestra

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music and dead kids?
It's just dead kids.

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Really a bad bad equation.
The the sad thing is the moments

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where he's kind of funny like I
genuinely find heartwarming and

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like there they are like and I
mean this in just a very simple

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way like they're attractive
moments, he's just Charming.

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And so, but I still just wonder,
like, did we not have enough

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screen time for him for us to
believe that he needed to be

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that Charming?
Did you know, what was it about?

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The movie that I just didn't
find myself connecting with

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Jeremy Renner in a way that was
meaningful.

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Like, I don't know.
But by the end of the film, it's

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like, he's just kind of written
out like, oh, yeah, he just left

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because he was angry.
Yeah, that that I didn't tell

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him, I could see the The future.
Yeah.

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So I don't know, man.
Yeah, I have a lot.

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I have a lot of problems with
this movie.

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It just it's like, it's kind of
like Interstellar in that.

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It's like, all right, I respect
the big swing and the Miss.

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Yeah, I think for me,
Interstellar is a bigger Miss

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than this movie but it also
swung bigger.

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It was a bigger swing.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
It was a bigger swing and so I

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can respect that whereas this
movie, I don't think it really

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missed.
Like I think if anything.

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This is an example of like a
solid lead off.

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Double a Dinger.
Yeah.

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Like he just kind of dinged it
out there.

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It's a solid.
Hit it for me.

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You like walking out of the
film.

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I was just like man that was
just fun.

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Hmm.
And I know it might sound weird

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to say that a movie with a dead
kid and, you know, an hour and a

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half of talking about language
was fun.

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And another thing that really
helped me going into the theater

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was like, And I think one of the
reasons I put this movie on the

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list for this season is the
simple fact that I think that

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for me, this is a personal story
of how important it is to not

447
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,500
know anything about a film going
into it.

448
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,300
This was an example of like, my
friend literally was like, Hey,

449
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,400
we're going to go watch a rival.
Do you want to come?

450
00:25:17,900 --> 00:25:22,700
And I just said, yes, I didn't
know anything about the movie.

451
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,800
I Didn't Know.
Who was in it, who directed it.

452
00:25:25,900 --> 00:25:28,100
I mean, let's be really honest,
man, in 2016.

453
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,700
I had no, no idea about my boy
Denis.

454
00:25:32,300 --> 00:25:35,800
It literally no clue.
Sicario barely it heard of it.

455
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,300
So walking into the movie
theater.

456
00:25:38,300 --> 00:25:42,500
I just found myself in chanted
with the story that he told on

457
00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:47,100
screen and I've always liked
arrival, is the first movie that

458
00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:50,600
really struck me.
This awareness of like I want to

459
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:55,800
watch movies with as, as little
All spoiler as possible.

460
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,300
And and so that it holds a
special place in my heart for

461
00:25:59,300 --> 00:26:01,300
that reason.
And then you want to come on

462
00:26:01,300 --> 00:26:04,200
this podcast and spoil it for
everyone who hasn't something

463
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,500
that everyone who hasn't seen
it.

464
00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:09,500
Brad I think this is a good
place for us to press pause

465
00:26:09,500 --> 00:26:13,100
because I'm like kind of
chomping at the bit to jump into

466
00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:16,400
what we had reserved for the
back half of the unrated apart.

467
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,800
So let's drink some, some wheat
whiskey.

468
00:26:19,900 --> 00:26:21,900
What do you say?
Let's do it man.

469
00:26:21,900 --> 00:26:30,500
I love me some wheat.
Whiskey Alright, today we are

470
00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:34,000
looking at Woodford, Reserve
wheat, whiskey Brad.

471
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:39,100
This is our first return trip to
America in a while in coming

472
00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:42,100
home from Scotland in a minute.
It sure has man.

473
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,300
Yeah, it took a while, we jumped
on the boat in England.

474
00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:47,500
We've been hanging out in the
ocean, drinking Scotch for a

475
00:26:47,508 --> 00:26:51,100
while, we're in Wales for a
while this year like imported,

476
00:26:51,100 --> 00:26:54,000
well, we spit all over, Dude.
I gotta say.

477
00:26:54,600 --> 00:27:01,900
Out of all like the the European
countries, I don't know.

478
00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:04,500
A single thing about whales
there.

479
00:27:04,500 --> 00:27:06,100
You know what?
I respect that they're flying

480
00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:08,700
under the radar.
They're like they are there like

481
00:27:08,700 --> 00:27:12,400
direct your hatred towards these
other three countries in the UK?

482
00:27:12,900 --> 00:27:15,600
Yeah, leave us alone.
We're going to make end Aaron

483
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,000
and just go away.
You can't pronounce any of our

484
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,700
cities names and we would have
it that way forever.

485
00:27:21,300 --> 00:27:25,200
Yeah.
Oh man, Bob I'm excited to drink

486
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,600
this Woodford, wheat.
Now, Woodford, produce this in

487
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,700
an effort to finish their lineup
of like four Whiskey's that

488
00:27:33,700 --> 00:27:38,900
represent the original for
American whiskeys Bob, like, the

489
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,200
the different grains that can be
used in with.

490
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,700
Yeah.
So like yeah, they have Woodford

491
00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:45,800
Bourbon and they expanded a
Woodford, r, i, and then

492
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,500
Woodford, malt, and now they're
like, you know what?

493
00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:51,400
We should have a wheat whiskey.
So, this one question, as most

494
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,600
of their products do at 90.4,
proof it. as nonage stated which

495
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,700
we know means, it's at least
four years old, it is decided on

496
00:27:58,700 --> 00:28:03,900
the point for I don't know, like
f F9, T, we can ask at that.

497
00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:06,600
Chris Morris back on here.
Be like, oh, that's a, that's a

498
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,900
good idea.
So the mash bill on this Brad is

499
00:28:08,900 --> 00:28:11,700
only 52% wheat.
And then, the next highest is

500
00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:15,700
20% malted barley, 20% corn, 8%
Rye.

501
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,600
So it is a for grain whisky but
only just barely qualifies as a

502
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,200
wheat, whiskey, I'm pretty
excited to jump into this man.

503
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,000
Let's let's, let's Dive Right
In.

504
00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:26,500
What are you picking up on the
nose?

505
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,300
I believe there's this song in
the 90s.

506
00:28:29,900 --> 00:28:32,700
Called peaches or is it Peach
country?

507
00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:35,000
Georgia, Peaches.
I was thinking of that really

508
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,400
dirty song.
Peaches and Cream.

509
00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:39,600
That's what I was thinking of
millions of peaches millions of

510
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,500
Pete.
That's the one.

511
00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:42,500
Sure, that's it.
Yeah.

512
00:28:42,500 --> 00:28:46,100
Millions of peaches by smells so
many peaches on this.

513
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,400
There's a little bit of hay.
A little bit of vanilla, kind of

514
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,400
a straw.
Yep, type Aroma going on.

515
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,100
It's Unique, it's interesting.
I'll give it a 7.

516
00:28:56,900 --> 00:28:59,200
Yeah, I the the hey is a really
good note because it definitely

517
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,700
smells like Arn to me, you know
what I mean?

518
00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:04,400
Like, it's real Dusty and I like
that a lot.

519
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,300
That's is a note.
I've been getting on a lot of

520
00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:07,900
Whiskey's lately and I'm digging
it.

521
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,900
And I actually, I tried this
whiskey alongside my wife and I

522
00:29:10,908 --> 00:29:12,800
let you know, we just shared the
glass.

523
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,100
I'm just realizing that I really
like wheat Whiskey's and I

524
00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:19,800
really like we did bourbons and
those are just kind of my

525
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,100
wheelhouse.
The more the further we get into

526
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:25,700
this whiskey-drinking endeavor
Brad more than a high ride

527
00:29:25,700 --> 00:29:27,100
bourbon.
I would rather have a weeded

528
00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:30,500
Bourbon and so we whiskies are
like right up My alley.

529
00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:34,300
This one did have quite a bit of
ethanol to me on the nose like

530
00:29:34,300 --> 00:29:36,600
surprisingly more than I
expected.

531
00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:40,000
But it has a set point for man.
It's that point for Chris Morris

532
00:29:40,300 --> 00:29:42,900
working his magic, but has a lot
of promise.

533
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:44,500
I'm gonna give it a seven on the
nose.

534
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,100
Yeah.
And then we get into the palette

535
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,900
for me.
I'm going to, I'm going to sound

536
00:29:49,900 --> 00:29:53,200
like I'm just repeating myself.
It feels like it's like canned

537
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,600
peaches fresh straw and little
hints of vanilla that keep

538
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,000
hitting you.
I don't know if I've ever Her

539
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,300
had a whiskey that literally
just stayed the exact same from

540
00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:09,500
the nose to the palate, like
nothing changed on this talk

541
00:30:09,500 --> 00:30:12,300
about consistency.
Yeah, it's incredibly

542
00:30:12,300 --> 00:30:14,500
consistent, it's not necessarily
a flavor.

543
00:30:14,500 --> 00:30:19,100
I'm like crazy pumped about,
it's fine, it's solid.

544
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,600
I'll give it a six and a half
out of ten.

545
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,500
I actually started liking this
more and more the further along

546
00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:29,200
I got into the tasting and it
started here when I first took a

547
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,500
sip is really thin on the tip of
your tongue like it.

548
00:30:32,500 --> 00:30:34,900
I was thinking to myself that it
was going to be really really

549
00:30:34,900 --> 00:30:37,900
thin and then I hit kind of the
mid palate and it was very

550
00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:41,300
syrupy like really thick and I
was like all right cool there's

551
00:30:41,300 --> 00:30:45,000
that viscosity that we know and
love and then I went to swallow

552
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,700
and it was thin again so I was
like I don't know what the

553
00:30:46,708 --> 00:30:48,600
hell's going on here.
It was just it was all over the

554
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,700
place, it was spicy but it
wasn't harsh.

555
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:55,600
So that alcohol from the nose
was not so much present on the

556
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,500
palate.
It had a really standard kind of

557
00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:02,000
wheat, whiskey pal, We've had a
couple like wheat whiskies and

558
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,200
we did Bourbons on the show
before and it was all there like

559
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,200
that really nice almost like
Cola effervescence that you get.

560
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,800
Sometimes from a wheat whiskey,
it was there, but it also had a

561
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,300
layer of caramel to it and
peanut butter and so it was kind

562
00:31:16,300 --> 00:31:20,000
of like drinking not so much, a
weeded bourbon but a wheat

563
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,900
whiskey that they like somehow
extracted the most bourbon e

564
00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:26,000
flavors into really, really
good.

565
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000
I'm going to give it an 8 and a
half on the palate.

566
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,700
Hmm.
Yeah.

567
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,400
Yeah man I'm not in the same
place as you when I get to the

568
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,200
finish.
It turns into a Woodford whiskey

569
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,600
again it gets really nice and
okey there's just a hint of that

570
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,400
peach leftover that still stay
in all through and it really

571
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,600
ends with some nice spices.
I like the finish a little bit

572
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,500
more than I did the rest of the
experience.

573
00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:53,400
I'll give it a seven and a half
on the finish.

574
00:31:53,700 --> 00:31:55,200
I'm going to go ahead and give
it an eight and a half on the

575
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,100
Finish again.
It really became a wheat Whiskey

576
00:31:58,100 --> 00:32:00,400
on the finish.
For me, I had Nicolas.

577
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,400
And that's something that we've
gotten a lot on are weeded

578
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,300
bourbons and our wheat whiskies
and sawdust like that dustiness.

579
00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:08,200
Came back again, I really loved
it.

580
00:32:08,300 --> 00:32:10,600
So it's an eight and a half on
the Finish when it comes to

581
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,700
balance.
I'm also going to give it an

582
00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:15,600
eight and a half, the only thing
that would prevent it from being

583
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,400
higher was that I did get that
little bit of like a stringency

584
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,700
on the nose but thankfully that
wasn't there on the palate or on

585
00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:25,800
the finish.
So I'm I'm coming out like

586
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,800
pretty pretty high on this one.
Brad.

587
00:32:28,700 --> 00:32:32,900
Yeah, I I'm not there with you.
I will say though, on the

588
00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:36,100
balance.
This is incredibly balanced for

589
00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:37,600
me.
You really got that really

590
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:43,000
strong Peach and like you said
like a Dusty, hay barn, feel

591
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,700
throughout the entire nose
palette and finish, I'll give it

592
00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:49,000
an 8 out of 10 on the balance.
I think it's really well

593
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,700
balanced.
All right, and then when it

594
00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:54,300
comes to Value, I'm going to
give it an 8 out of 10 and the

595
00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:58,300
only reason is there's a whiskey
called, bernheim wheat.

596
00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:02,700
Ski that is made by Heaven Hill
that markets for around 20 to 25

597
00:33:02,700 --> 00:33:05,300
dollars and it's pretty complex
comparable to this actually.

598
00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:08,600
Think I prefer this one but I
don't know if I would say that

599
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,900
it's worth almost 50% more than
you can get with bernheim.

600
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,200
So I'm going to give it an
eight.

601
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,100
I actually plan to pick up a
bottle of this sometime soon.

602
00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:19,600
I like this a lot Brad.
And like I said, it's right in

603
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,900
my wheelhouse so I'm kind of
like conditioned to like this.

604
00:33:23,300 --> 00:33:27,600
But I am coming out here to a
40.5 out of 50.

605
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:29,900
Brad.
What is your value score and

606
00:33:29,900 --> 00:33:31,800
then what do you coming out to
ya?

607
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,700
See at $36.
I don't think this is a bad

608
00:33:34,700 --> 00:33:39,200
value, I think it is a unique
and a really solid offering by

609
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,100
Woodford.
It's fun and interesting.

610
00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:44,500
I'll give it a six out of ten on
the value.

611
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,600
I just personally am not vibing
with it quite as much to give it

612
00:33:47,608 --> 00:33:51,500
a higher score, but my total
score is coming out to that

613
00:33:51,500 --> 00:33:55,800
magic number.
Bob 35, out of 50, the golden

614
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,500
ratio, well, that puts us at
Seventy five point five out of a

615
00:34:00,500 --> 00:34:04,100
hundred or a thirty seven point
seven, five out of 50.

616
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,600
I would recommend trying it for
sure and I would also recommend

617
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,500
buying a bottle Brad.
I have a feeling you're not

618
00:34:09,500 --> 00:34:12,900
going to be quite there with me.
Yeah, I would say try it.

619
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,500
If you have a friend that's
willing to pour you a dram, go

620
00:34:15,500 --> 00:34:17,500
for it.
I don't know if I'd recommend a

621
00:34:17,507 --> 00:34:19,400
bottle.
I think I'd say hold back on

622
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,400
that.
Well, we would like to know what

623
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,300
you think.
If you've had Woodford, wheat,

624
00:34:23,300 --> 00:34:25,900
if you're a fan of wheat
whiskey, reach out to us and let

625
00:34:25,900 --> 00:34:29,100
us know, put one of us in our
place while We get back into

626
00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:31,500
talking about arrival, Brad.
What do you say?

627
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:38,699
Let's get to it.
Alrighty everybody, that was

628
00:34:38,699 --> 00:34:42,400
Woodford, wheat.
That was like, that was like,

629
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,600
Bruce Buffer.
That was, man.

630
00:34:48,300 --> 00:34:52,600
Yeah, today we're talking about
a rival Bob, it's a movie that

631
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,900
I'm pretty big on you don't seem
quite as big on, nope.

632
00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:59,800
But that can all be shoved to
the side because we have the

633
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:04,600
greatest segment ever invented
in the history of podcast.

634
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,100
And what is that bread?
You know what it is Bob, it's

635
00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:11,400
two facts in a falsehood to
facts in a falsehood where the

636
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,100
game is made up and the points
don't matter.

637
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,500
Because that is, right?
Because Brad has had to retract

638
00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:20,900
at least three of his points and
make them into ties.

639
00:35:20,900 --> 00:35:23,800
I don't even know what the score
is at this point Brad, I've only

640
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,600
retracted twice, thank you very
much, you've attracted twice,

641
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,400
but you've been proven wrong
three times.

642
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,600
So that is, that is a false
statement.

643
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,500
Bob, I have not looked up the
third accusation, and I am

644
00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:38,000
innocent until proven guilty.
Innocent until you look it up.

645
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,600
So as long as you don't look at,
you can never be guilty.

646
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:45,000
Remember that kids.
So arrival fact, number one,

647
00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:51,000
this was the only best picture
Oscar nominee, this that year,

648
00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:52,800
that's false.
Yeah, that's it.

649
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,400
I think there were ten fact,
number one.

650
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,700
This is the only best picture
nominee that did not have any

651
00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:04,800
nominations in the best acting
cat or sorry, not just the best

652
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,100
acting.
Any of the acting categories.

653
00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:10,900
So you're saying for its year
for its year, okay?

654
00:36:10,900 --> 00:36:14,800
It was the only yes of all time.
The only best ever ever.

655
00:36:15,300 --> 00:36:19,900
Yeah, ever ever know just of its
year to be the 2017, Oscars.

656
00:36:19,900 --> 00:36:23,300
I've heard they've fax.
Number two in arrival Forest

657
00:36:23,300 --> 00:36:27,400
Whitaker, plays a military
officer who recruits civilian

658
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,200
experts with special skills, to
assist with the first contact

659
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,900
with the alien species.
Did you know that he also played

660
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,300
in?
Fives species.

661
00:36:37,700 --> 00:36:41,400
A civilian expert with a special
skill, who is recruited to

662
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,500
assist with the first Contact of
an alien species.

663
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,000
Nice.
All right.

664
00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:51,800
Also Jeremy Renner played a very
similar character in his first

665
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,700
movie appearance, 2001's, fish
in a barrel and which he was a

666
00:36:55,700 --> 00:37:00,400
scientist who theorizes what
aliens want with humans when

667
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,000
they make first Contact.
I don't freakin know, man.

668
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,300
Oh, this is it.
See, it's way harder do this.

669
00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:10,800
When it's a movie, I don't care
about.

670
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,300
It's kind of, like, doing
practice planes with the movie.

671
00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:19,000
I don't like, so the movie
Species, I've never seen it, but

672
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,100
I remember as a small child, the
video cover at the video store

673
00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:25,600
and I remember feeling like who
I shouldn't be seeing this right

674
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,100
now.
Was a yeah, very erotic thing.

675
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:32,000
Wait, what?
Yeah, now I need to look up the

676
00:37:32,008 --> 00:37:33,400
cover to say mean, it's just
Anna.

677
00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:35,700
Active woman who's playing an
alien, but I remember being

678
00:37:35,700 --> 00:37:38,700
like, woo, as like a four and a
half year old you were like

679
00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:41,200
who's like, hey watch that
species.

680
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,100
Keep you on the back burner
until I'm old enough.

681
00:37:46,300 --> 00:37:49,500
You know movie was like that for
me as a kid like this is me

682
00:37:49,500 --> 00:37:52,200
being wrong honest, American
Beauty.

683
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,800
Oh yeah, because of the rose
petals on the cover, cover was

684
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,400
not the most erotic thing at
Blockbuster.

685
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,300
I just remember seeing it for
years and being like, what is

686
00:38:02,300 --> 00:38:05,500
that movie about?
Out like yeah, what what, ha,

687
00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:08,600
under what circumstances would
someone be bathing and rose

688
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,800
petals.
That's right, so many roses.

689
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:17,200
How do you think this
predicament like we're so off

690
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:17,900
base?
Okay.

691
00:38:17,900 --> 00:38:21,400
Um, I don't know if Forest
Whitaker's in species because

692
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,000
I've only ever seen the covers,
and he is not that woman.

693
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,600
So too might be true.
Three might be true because I

694
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,700
don't know enough about Jeremy,
Renner to know what fish in a

695
00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:32,100
barrel.
Is number one.

696
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,800
It was the year that Emma Stone
won the Oscar.

697
00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:42,000
But did she beat Amy Adams?
If anyone was nominated, it was

698
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,100
Amy Adams and Amy Adams has been
criminally neglected by the

699
00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:49,300
academy.
And on many occasions, not even

700
00:38:49,300 --> 00:38:52,000
nominated when people were like,
oh she should have won that year

701
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,800
so I can't remember if that was
an Amy Adams nomination year or

702
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,700
not, And that's what's really
screwing.

703
00:38:59,700 --> 00:39:03,300
This whole thing up for me what
other movies?

704
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,200
We're up for best picture that
you're Moonlight, that had a

705
00:39:07,207 --> 00:39:11,000
nomination and a win.
Wait Moonlight 10.

706
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,400
No Moonlight was 17.
Wasn't it?

707
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:16,600
And this was 16.
What one in 2016 the shape of

708
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,600
water No, that was just an 18.
God.

709
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,100
I tie it.
What is time?

710
00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:23,900
Am I right?
Arrival.

711
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:26,100
Moonlight lost to lala land.
No.

712
00:39:26,100 --> 00:39:27,700
LOL.
And lost to Moonlight.

713
00:39:27,700 --> 00:39:31,600
That was the one that they
announced and then ii-i'm.

714
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,900
Sorry.
All right, Brad.

715
00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:39,500
I'm just gonna go ahead and say,
Jeremy Renner is the falsehood

716
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,700
Jeremy Renner, is the false ID
by.

717
00:39:42,700 --> 00:39:47,500
I did it.
Oh my God.

718
00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:51,300
He's first movie was fish in a
barrel, but I have zero clue

719
00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:53,400
what that movie was about.
Yeah.

720
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,600
Wow.
That was the longest two facts

721
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,300
in a falsehood ever.
It was, well, I'll tell you

722
00:39:58,300 --> 00:40:04,200
this, the cover line for fish in
a barrel was it was something to

723
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,800
the effect of like you thought
you saw it all with.

724
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,200
Reservoir Dogs, dot dot, dot
fish, in a barrel.

725
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:14,800
What a horrible name for a
movie.

726
00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:17,100
Yeah, like, you know, what's
gonna tear movie?

727
00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:20,800
Seriously, terrible.
It's got like a 4.8 on IMDb

728
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,600
beautiful.
We'll do it with our next bad

729
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,900
movie bonus.
Bob, I want to get into arrival

730
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,700
because not that we haven't
gotten it already.

731
00:40:28,900 --> 00:40:32,400
I want to hear your knit picks
because I think that this is

732
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,800
like a really solid movie and
I'm going to, I'm going to

733
00:40:35,808 --> 00:40:40,400
position you To defend me here.
I think that this is the kind of

734
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:45,000
movie that we're missing out on
in modern Hollywood is like they

735
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:50,200
won't take chances on like
interesting unique twists on the

736
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,500
Sci-Fi genre, or anything?
That's not going to be a

737
00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:56,100
blockbuster.
I feel like arrival would be a

738
00:40:56,100 --> 00:41:00,800
casualty of the MCU.
If occation.

739
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,500
Yeah.
That we've seen her since 2015,

740
00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:05,100
16.
I think that it does a couple

741
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:08,800
things really well like To your
point in that it is a very

742
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:14,100
intimate story that's told on a
pretty you know big scale in

743
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:16,000
terms of like thematically.
Right.

744
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,700
It's about an alien invasion but
it's really just about one

745
00:41:17,700 --> 00:41:23,600
person and it is also a really
high concept drama like they

746
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,600
just they don't make movies like
this anymore.

747
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,500
And I remember a few years ago,
I went with a buddy to a preview

748
00:41:29,500 --> 00:41:33,100
screening of the movie
Annihilation, which is a hard

749
00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:36,900
sci-fi movie and based on prior
IP, but didn't do great.

750
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,300
The box office and it has some
similarities to this movie in

751
00:41:40,300 --> 00:41:42,300
that.
It's like it has that impending

752
00:41:42,300 --> 00:41:45,500
sense of dread for a long time
and that one tips way more into

753
00:41:45,500 --> 00:41:49,700
horror but that again it's like
a really high concept movie and

754
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,800
you don't see that a ton.
So you're right.

755
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,200
I think they need to make more
movies in the vein of arrival.

756
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,800
I just don't know that this is
the movie they needed to make.

757
00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:02,800
Why is that Bob?
What's what is sticking in your

758
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,100
craw?
Well, so I'll say this, like, I

759
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:09,700
don't hate this movie.
It's made by people, I love and

760
00:42:09,700 --> 00:42:12,200
respect.
And again, I respect the effort,

761
00:42:12,300 --> 00:42:15,500
but I think earlier, I talked
about how there were two movies

762
00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:17,500
that it really reminded me of,
and one is Interstellar.

763
00:42:17,500 --> 00:42:19,800
And the other would be when we
watched earlier this year, that

764
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,000
would be signs because
obviously, Alien Invasion movie

765
00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:26,800
about a family, right?
It's a very intimate story set

766
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,600
against the backdrop of an alien
invasion.

767
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,200
So they were Very obvious
parallels.

768
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,600
But I think that most of my
nitpicks, with this movie, fall

769
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,800
back on the fact that like the
interstellar parts of this movie

770
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,400
are all done as well or better
in interstellar.

771
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:47,800
And the the family intimate
drama parts of this movie are

772
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,400
all done, better in signs and I
can't really think of a lot of

773
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,300
areas where this movie does,
anything better than another

774
00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:58,100
movie I could point to.
And that really like, you know,

775
00:42:58,100 --> 00:42:59,600
that's a huge over
simplification.

776
00:42:59,700 --> 00:43:03,000
Station of this movie, but I
think at the end of the day,

777
00:43:03,900 --> 00:43:07,700
this is a movie that I don't
quite know what the message of

778
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:10,800
the movie is or I don't know
what it wants to be or what it

779
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,500
wants to say.
And for a long time it seems

780
00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:20,200
like this is a movie about how
do we communicate like how do

781
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,000
humans communicate with each
other?

782
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:25,300
We need to learn how to work
together and these aliens are

783
00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:29,300
showing us that and of course,
you know, the US and China are

784
00:43:29,300 --> 00:43:31,900
going to All their secrets and,
you know, it becomes a movie

785
00:43:31,900 --> 00:43:35,500
about collaboration and
cooperation and, you know, it's

786
00:43:35,500 --> 00:43:39,000
it has interesting ideas in that
realm and Interstellar kind of

787
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,500
touched on some of that as well.
And I think that would have been

788
00:43:41,508 --> 00:43:44,200
a really cool point to make and
make that the main point of the

789
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,500
movie and then it really veers
into this like, nope.

790
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,000
It's a time travel movie now.
And the point of the time travel

791
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:55,100
movie is this, like, if you
could know the future in the

792
00:43:55,100 --> 00:43:58,600
future had batch in it for you
like, would you still do it?

793
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,100
But if I understand the Contours
of the movie correctly, I don't

794
00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:04,500
really know if she had any
choice.

795
00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:06,700
It wasn't like they gave her an
option of like do you want to

796
00:44:06,700 --> 00:44:08,500
see the future because then your
kid's gonna die.

797
00:44:08,500 --> 00:44:10,500
It was just like, you do see the
future.

798
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,000
Also, your kid's gonna die deal
with this knowledge.

799
00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:16,400
And so there wasn't really any
steaks there.

800
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,000
So that didn't really have any
like, dramatic tension for me.

801
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,700
And it wasn't really a movie
about like a mother's love or a

802
00:44:24,707 --> 00:44:27,800
mother's determination.
Because again, it was just kind

803
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,800
of dealing with things as they
Come.

804
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,300
And so I thought maybe, okay,
maybe it's a movie about like

805
00:44:33,300 --> 00:44:37,600
fate and and how do you deal
with knowing your own fate, but

806
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,700
it didn't get into that enough
either.

807
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,700
So, it was just kind of like a
movie with a bunch of

808
00:44:42,700 --> 00:44:46,100
underdeveloped ideas and they
were all good ideas, but it

809
00:44:46,100 --> 00:44:50,500
didn't lean into any one of them
enough, that's my rant.

810
00:44:50,500 --> 00:44:52,800
It's not really a rant.
It's just like, I just don't

811
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:58,300
think it like, fully grasped,
any one of those Concepts to the

812
00:44:58,300 --> 00:45:00,700
extended needed to You to, like,
hit a home run for me?

813
00:45:01,500 --> 00:45:05,900
Yeah, see I think for me the,
the core message of the movie is

814
00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:12,600
that human relationship is based
on communication, and human

815
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:17,300
relationship is worth pursuing.
No matter what the cost that

816
00:45:17,300 --> 00:45:20,100
like, if I had to just boil it
down, I think that was the

817
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:25,900
message of this movie that in
order to advance as a race, as a

818
00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:31,000
civilization, we need to pursue
Human connection because in the

819
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,500
end, what kept the the war from
happening?

820
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,400
You know what kept China from
doing, it wasn't necessarily.

821
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,900
You know, the u.s. offering some
strategic advantage or, you

822
00:45:43,900 --> 00:45:45,800
know, using some form of
diplomacy.

823
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,700
It was an interpersonal
relationship that was formed by,

824
00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:54,600
you know, Amy Adams character to
the Chinese General who was, you

825
00:45:54,607 --> 00:45:58,000
know, kind of in charge of what
they were doing and it was her

826
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,900
reaching out to him.
Him and bonding with him over

827
00:46:00,900 --> 00:46:03,500
something.
He was vulnerable about that is

828
00:46:03,500 --> 00:46:06,800
what drew them together.
And I think that's a really

829
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,000
powerful message.
And I like, I look at our world

830
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,300
now 2020 26 years after this
movie came out.

831
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,900
And in my mind I'm like man I
think I think that we could use

832
00:46:18,900 --> 00:46:24,300
more of that message that human
connection is worth it.

833
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,800
Even even if the outcome might
seem negative and in the world's

834
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,800
eyes, You know that hurt her
child dies in the end, the

835
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:36,400
connection and the bond that she
made with her child was still

836
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,800
incredibly important.
Sure, I will say, I was reading

837
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,900
about the movie and the The
Source material is a book

838
00:46:44,900 --> 00:46:47,800
written in the 90s by a guy
named Ted Chiang.

839
00:46:48,500 --> 00:46:55,200
And in the book, she sees the
future and her daughter dying in

840
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,000
the future.
But the daughter dying in the

841
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,000
future is an avoidable.
Voidable accident, see that guys

842
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,900
like rock climbing or something,
huh?

843
00:47:02,900 --> 00:47:05,400
And that feels a lot darker to
me.

844
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,100
Yeah.
But it also gives the movies

845
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:09,600
steaks that I feel like, it
doesn't have like, there are

846
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,300
just no real Stakes here.
It's not even as if they're

847
00:47:13,300 --> 00:47:15,900
like, the aliens come.
And they say, like, hey in 3,000

848
00:47:15,900 --> 00:47:18,000
years were really going to need
your help and if you don't do

849
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,800
this, we can't get Humanities
help.

850
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,600
They just say, like, in 3,000
years we're going to need the

851
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,700
help of humanity.
This is how it happens.

852
00:47:25,700 --> 00:47:29,500
And like there's a sense of
inevitability with it that It's

853
00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:31,800
almost like she doesn't have to
take on any sort of mantle or

854
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,400
make any sort of sacrifice or
make any sort of decision.

855
00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:37,900
She just becomes aware of things
that are Beyond her control that

856
00:47:37,900 --> 00:47:41,600
are going to happen.
And like, even the idea of like

857
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,000
Humanity was going to launch a
war against the aliens.

858
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,300
I don't really think that we had
any indication that the aliens

859
00:47:48,300 --> 00:47:50,400
were ever gonna retaliate.
You know what I mean?

860
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,700
Like we could have launched
missiles at them but like maybe

861
00:47:52,700 --> 00:47:56,300
they just fly away was going to
be an Iron Giant situation.

862
00:47:57,100 --> 00:47:59,700
I don't see and might say things
like we Don't know.

863
00:47:59,900 --> 00:48:03,500
And I think the aliens were so
benevolent that, you know, even

864
00:48:03,500 --> 00:48:06,000
like, when they tried to get
bombed, they pushed Amy Adams

865
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,800
and Jeremy Renner out of the
ship, like no, you guys be safe.

866
00:48:09,100 --> 00:48:13,400
So like, I never felt like there
were any Stakes to this movie

867
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,700
and giving her some sort of a
decision to make really would

868
00:48:16,700 --> 00:48:20,200
have helped out and made all the
rest of the stuff, more

869
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,300
impactful.
Yeah.

870
00:48:22,300 --> 00:48:25,000
I mean, I think that the
decision she made was to still

871
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,600
have her child, but could she
have avoided that, like Was it

872
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,000
just an inevitability?
And that's the thing is like, I

873
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,600
feel like of all the time,
travel movies we've watched,

874
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,000
this is the one where the logic
of the time-travel falls apart,

875
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,300
the easiest.
So like it hinges on this

876
00:48:42,300 --> 00:48:46,200
conversation, she has with the
German like or German with the I

877
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,600
was thinking she's with the
Chinese General like a year and

878
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:55,300
a half later and he he tells her
in the future that he had a

879
00:48:55,308 --> 00:48:58,900
conversation with her in the
past and he shows her a phone

880
00:48:58,900 --> 00:49:00,500
number over.
And so then because she can see

881
00:49:00,500 --> 00:49:03,200
the future from the past.
She sees the phone number, she

882
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,300
knows to call the General and
she stops this war from

883
00:49:06,300 --> 00:49:09,700
happening.
But like, they show the full

884
00:49:09,700 --> 00:49:15,200
scene play out in the future
where she doesn't know the, the

885
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,800
general he approaches her, and
she's confused, and he has to

886
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:23,800
explain to her, but like, then
once it happens in the past, she

887
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,800
would remember it.
And so that future is like, it

888
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,000
gets into this, that like
everything falls apart.

889
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,300
And unless you're going to open
up the concept of like weird

890
00:49:31,300 --> 00:49:34,300
multiverses and stuff, like it
does, it's not worth thinking

891
00:49:34,300 --> 00:49:37,400
about, but it's also kind of
like if you give this movie 5

892
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:42,000
Seconds worth of thought, if you
like, all it falls apart and I

893
00:49:42,100 --> 00:49:44,900
don't think I'm with you.
I think that there's a reality

894
00:49:44,900 --> 00:49:48,400
where she's who I don't want to,
I don't want to reference

895
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,500
another movie.
I feel like she's kind of

896
00:49:51,500 --> 00:49:55,900
Shifting back and forth that.
And this is like the nerdy time

897
00:49:55,900 --> 00:50:00,400
travel side.
I think that she In the current

898
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,600
present is Shifting back and
forth between her realities and

899
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,300
struggling to understand where
she's at.

900
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,200
Whereas like the next time she
goes through that reality, she

901
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,400
might not be going through that.
Or it could just be like, kind

902
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,000
of a loop where every time she
meets the General there.

903
00:50:17,300 --> 00:50:20,200
She kind of Loops back to what's
happening in the past.

904
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:25,300
Just stuck in an endless loop of
watching your kid died and

905
00:50:25,300 --> 00:50:29,000
meeting a Chinese guy.
Yeah wow it's ridiculous life.

906
00:50:29,100 --> 00:50:30,700
My right.
Am I?

907
00:50:30,700 --> 00:50:32,800
Am I right?
All right dude, let's give some

908
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,200
final scores here.
Brad, here's the thing is like I

909
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,500
don't hate this movie and I
don't think it's a bad movie.

910
00:50:38,500 --> 00:50:41,900
It just never clicks and it
never works for me and I'd be

911
00:50:41,900 --> 00:50:43,800
lying if I thought it was better
than a 6.

912
00:50:44,300 --> 00:50:47,900
So I'm gonna give it a six out
of ten like it seems harsh.

913
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,900
Yeah, it does like it seems
harsh and I don't dislike it at

914
00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:54,900
all and I love Denis Villeneuve.
And I'll watch Amy Adams, do

915
00:50:54,900 --> 00:50:57,000
absolutely anything.
So that's like, that's not an

916
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,400
issue.
But yeah, it's just Just it

917
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:00,700
didn't work for me in the
theater.

918
00:51:00,700 --> 00:51:03,900
I was excited to revisit it and
it just kind of confirmed to me

919
00:51:03,900 --> 00:51:05,900
that it still doesn't work.
So I'm going to give it a six

920
00:51:05,900 --> 00:51:08,400
out of ten and six is pretty
harsh.

921
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,900
I think, I'll give it an 8 out
of 10.

922
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,700
This is one of the few times
where I think IMDb is like right

923
00:51:14,700 --> 00:51:19,400
on the money.
It has it as at a 7.9 and for me

924
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:24,000
that I'm right there with it,
it's a solid Movie that that is

925
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,300
entertaining and fun and
interesting it jogs, the brain.

926
00:51:27,900 --> 00:51:30,600
We didn't really get into it but
I think that the alien design is

927
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,400
really interesting, oh, for
sure.

928
00:51:32,500 --> 00:51:37,100
Yep, I think that there's a lot
of elements of this film that

929
00:51:37,100 --> 00:51:41,400
are grounded and interesting and
I'm in dude, I don't think it's

930
00:51:41,408 --> 00:51:43,700
the best sci-fi movie of all
time.

931
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,400
The fact that it was one of the
first sci-fi movies nominated

932
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,300
for best picture and a long,
long time was cool but maybe a

933
00:51:51,308 --> 00:51:53,900
little overstated.
I don't know if it deserved.

934
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,100
Yeah, but you know we're putting
10 movies in there.

935
00:51:56,100 --> 00:51:58,900
Why not put a rival in?
Oh, one more, one more thing.

936
00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:01,300
Before we sign off for the day.
Yeah.

937
00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:03,700
What was going on with Forest
Whitaker in this movie?

938
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,000
Because it was he supposed to be
like from Boston, like, what was

939
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,700
the accent?
He was trying to do?

940
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,500
Bob, here's the thing.
I don't think you could ever not

941
00:52:12,500 --> 00:52:15,600
make that statement about Forest
Whitaker in any movie.

942
00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:21,700
I've never understood him as an
actor in any movie.

943
00:52:21,700 --> 00:52:25,700
He's a good actor but like he
just makes choices, you know?

944
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,900
Exactly.
That's that's what I don't

945
00:52:27,900 --> 00:52:31,000
understand with Forest.
Honestly, a movie that I liked

946
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:36,600
him in was a Netflix movie
about, like, basically, like a

947
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,500
world war three, where you don't
see world war three happen.

948
00:52:39,900 --> 00:52:42,500
You ever watch this.
Nope, it man.

949
00:52:42,500 --> 00:52:46,900
It was Forest Whitaker and I
don't remember, it was a Netflix

950
00:52:46,900 --> 00:52:50,300
movie, that I was like really
pleasantly surprised by, but

951
00:52:50,500 --> 00:52:54,400
other than that, I just always,
I felt this way in Rogue one

952
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,100
with Forest Whitaker.
I felt this way in a rival, I'm

953
00:52:57,100 --> 00:52:58,900
with you, dude.
I don't know what he's really

954
00:52:58,900 --> 00:53:00,400
doing.
Doing in this movie, I could not

955
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,700
understand a word.
He said, in this movie, like I

956
00:53:02,700 --> 00:53:05,300
had to turn on like, the only
two things in this movie that

957
00:53:05,300 --> 00:53:09,000
needed subtitled were alien
creatures, and forced winners

958
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,500
Whittaker.
All right, man.

959
00:53:12,500 --> 00:53:16,300
Next week, we are going to be
watching another Jason Reitman

960
00:53:16,300 --> 00:53:18,600
movie.
Another kind of dark comedy.

961
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,200
I'm I've been excited to talk
about this one for a long time

962
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,100
because I have no idea where
you're going to fall on it.

963
00:53:23,100 --> 00:53:26,600
It's a movie called young adult.
So, I'm I'm pumped, we're going

964
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,400
to watch that next week, but
until then, I'm Bob book, I'm

965
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,600
Reggie and we'll see you next
time.