My Favorite Movie with Corky Taylor, Kentucky Peerless Distilling

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Hey everybody, Welcome to the
podcast.

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We've got another special bonus
episode.

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We're coming to you today from
Louisville.

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Kentucky, we are at Kentucky
Peerless distilling and we're

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sitting here with the owner, the
president, the CEO Corky, Taylor

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Corky, how are you today?
I'm doing great.

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Thanks so much for joining us.
Absolutely.

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So quirky, can you tell us a
little bit about this brand

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Peerless because we've been
reading articles about you all

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and we found out that it hasn't
been produced under this name

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and almost a century and you
guys are Resurrecting the brand.

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So tell us a little bit about
your history with Peerless.

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We are my great-grandfather
Henry.

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Craver started Peerless back in
1889, shut it down during

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prohibition at one at one time
in history.

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He was probably the fourth or
fourth, or fifth largest

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distillery in a state of
Kentucky, out of 220

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distilleries.
So there were days, he was

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making two hundred barrels a day
while.

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So he was a, he was a pretty
good-sized to Stiller down.

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In Henderson Kentucky, our home
is Is west of here right on the

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Ohio River.
So that's where it all got

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started.
I had a financial services

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company.
I sold it walked on a beach in

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Sarasota.
Florida for a year-and-a-half

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most oppressed over.
Ben I said I've got to go back

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to work so yeah, I am so I love
what I'm doing.

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We're bringing back the Peerless
name.

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Got my son Carson involved in
it, so we're having a lot of

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fun.
Hopefully, we're making a good

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Rye, Whiskey in a really good
burp.

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Yeah, yeah.
And that's the crazy thing is

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like, whenever You hear about
something being on for a century

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like we can think about 10 or 20
years and you can remember what

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it was like in the 90s.
You know 20 30 years ago like

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when you think about something
being gone for a century and

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being brought back, there is
some sort of excitement that you

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just don't get with other
things.

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That's really exciting.
Yeah.

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And I think it's a history
That's so exciting.

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I mean we were able to get back
the Peerless name.

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He gave it up during
prohibition.

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I got the Peerless name back.
We got his actual DSP, the

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federal ID number To make
distilled Spirits his number 50.

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So I first time in history, the
government side, ever gone back

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to give a distilled Spirits
plant number back to a family.

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Well, I was able to get that.
So then we came out with, it's

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been a hundred and two years
since Peerless has put out of

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bourbon June, 22nd on my
father's birthday, I was

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honoring my father because we
skipped his generation, so we

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came out with our bourbon, it's
about four, four and a half

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years old.
So we're very excited to get our

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bourbon out.
Or rye whiskey.

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He's done great for us.
So so we're proud of our rye

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whiskey, that's great.
Well, Corky has been generous

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enough to give us a poor here of
the bourbon that they make it

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Peerless and I'd like to go
ahead and just give it a little

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taste.
And you just get that.

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Good trademark sweetness.
No.

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Yeah you expect from a bourbon
man.

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This is beautiful.
You can really taste the age on

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it too and I'm so glad, you
know, we've talked to some

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distilleries in the past that
they really rushed to get their

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product out there on the market
at two years.

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But you can just tell the
difference between a two-year

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Whiskey and a four-year whiskey.
This is beautiful.

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Well, thank you very much.
And we made a decision as a

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family that we were not going to
Source product from another

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company.
And where's bad from a come, put

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it in a bottle.
And say, oh, by the way, this is

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peerless, right?
We make our own.

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So we had to wait a little over
four years to bottle this.

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So I think we did the right
thing.

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Not many people will do that.
Not many people are as crazy as

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I am.
So what I love about even just

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in, you know, 45 minutes so far.
You talk about family so much.

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So talk to me about the
importance of keeping family

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involved and this is obviously a
great grandpa.

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Great grandfather's great.
Grandfather's Legacy.

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Yeah.
And like talk to me more about

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like family and keeping family
involved and how important

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that's been for.
You know, that's that's the most

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important.
Like I said, I had a, I had a

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big company.
I had a couple thousand people

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working in the financial
services business.

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I sold it, you know, and then I
had the, I just felt like I had

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to go back to work, but when I
did, I wanted my family involved

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with me and that's what we want
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You know, we're building a
family Legacy here.

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We're not selling.
We're not, I didn't build it to

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sell it.
I've already been through all

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that my life.
So I built it to keep My kids,

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my grandkids and build this, I'm
the fourth generation Carson's

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of fifth.
I've got 20 men are running

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around there the sixth
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So we're here to stay and that
and that's probably the most

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important argument.
Well, it going along with that,

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as well.
You all are working with one of

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the hottest names in the
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Now, in your master distiller,
Caleb, Kilburn, can you tell me

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a little bit about how you found
Caleb?

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And, and the process to get him
to the point where he is now, is

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Master distiller.
Yeah, we actually found him when

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he was a junior.
In college.

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Wow, was he knew he knew exactly
what he wanted to do in his

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life.
So we had worked and he'd been

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to a number of different
distilleries and of course, he

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knew he wanted to get in there.
So he actually worked for us in

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the summer.
He was he was shoveling gravel

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and pulling Nails out of out of
wood before he even thought

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about working or getting into
the Sterling business.

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So he saw the whole project all
the way through.

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He, he actually came up with his
own software package to run the

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still, the young man is
brilliant.

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Yeah, he's A very smart young
man, he's he's well-mannered and

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I respect the knowledge that he
has, but he's studied it hard.

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We made him the master
distiller, last Christmas and it

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made my home at a Christmas
party.

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I think he was honored.
I invited his parents they were

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tickled to death so he's he's
going to be with us a long time

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and he does a great job for us.
I actually heard about that

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story.
You know, from what I read it

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was surprised he wasn't
expecting to be named Master

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distiller because he had been
working under the title of was

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ahead.
Distillery distiller, correct,

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sure.
And when he and when he came to

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came to work here, I said,
Caleb, you're not going to be a

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master distiller, you're going
to be a distiller, you know, in

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a lot of distilleries, you
people, young people go to work

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and they just assume just
because they're the distiller

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there.
The master distiller, to me, I

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think you have to make product.
You have to make a good product,

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and after he came out in 2017
with the 15, best whiskey

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overall in the world, but the
number one rye whiskey, and in

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April, the 18th of 18, Ranked
the number one, real Whiskey in

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the world.
Yeah, I'd say you're a master is

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still absolutely sober.
Well, that's beautiful and I

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think it just ties into what
Brad was talking about.

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It, it really does feel like a
tight-knit group here that

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considers itself to be a family.
Well we do we we really do.

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I mean that's important
everybody that works here.

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I think they feel like they are
family and that they're enjoying

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working here.
They want to be here.

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They're passionate.
That's the main thing about it.

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We want everybody to be
passionate about what they're

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trying to trying to do in life.
And if you're not, if you don't

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If you're not happy where you're
working, you're just not happy.

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Sure.
So we want Happy People.

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We don't, we don't have that.
Many employees will only have

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about 20 22 employees and that's
front to back.

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Yeah, so we're you know, we try
to try to work together and and

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we're concerned we want we want
good.

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Good people.
Absolutely.

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Take care of each other.
We do we absolutely do well why

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don't we go ahead and segue?
Then, you know, the title of

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this series that we're doing is
my favorite movie and we reached

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out to Corky's And she said that
the movie he wanted to talk

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about, was called Bloodworth,
and at the time, I had not heard

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of Bloodworth, but I looked it
up and we found out that it

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actually goes a long with this
Peerless, tradition of

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incorporating family.
This movie Bloodworth was

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actually directed by Corky son,
Shane.

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So, what can you tell me about
this film?

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Well, I was also the executive
producer on that fellow.

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Okay, so I'm in, I'm in a movie
business with My Soul with

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malice a Shane, but Bloodworth
is, is a really a unique movie.

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We had Chris Christopherson Val.
Dwight Yoakam, Hilary Duff and

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Earl Brown who was in Something
About Mary.

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So the cast was basically
unbelievable.

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It was about a family Kris
Kristofferson was an

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Entertainer.
Like he is today, kind of left

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the family.
He came back and wanted to make

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it up to his kids.
He had three kids who were

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having a hard time getting back
with him, but it's kind of a

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country film but it's done very
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We won the site Santa Barbara
film festival and my son Shane

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won best director in a And a
barber film out of 100 films.

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So so we're proud of that and
it's going all around the world,

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so it's that type of movie.
But the cast Kris

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kristofferson's, a friend of
mine, I'll really like Chris.

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Yeah, and I was so, we had some
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Dwight Yoakam.
Actually grew up here in

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Louisville concern, grew up in
Middletown.

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So it was like him coming home
and we see each other, you know,

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so it's a in Hilary Duff.
Icy Hill, Riyadh and Burbank.

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And I see her every once while
she's at Sweet girl.

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And she did a great job and her
Searle Browns from Murray

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Kentucky, so we've known her
forever.

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So it's it was a it was a that's
by far my favorite map.

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I've seen a lot of movies, but,
you know, it's not just because

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I was on the executive producer
side but my son did direct it

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and we won accolades with it and
are still in it.

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Still, I had somebody call me
other day.

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They were flying to Europe and
they watched a watch Bloodworth

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on Delta Airlines.
So you can even plan a lot, you

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know, long flights on Delta and
it's going to be on So yeah and

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course Netflix and all the rest
up.

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So so what's it been like to be
in the movie business coming

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from the background that you do
and now being in the distilled

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Spirits business?
Do you, do you find any

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parallels?
Do you find one to be easier

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than the other?
You know, I nothing's easy.

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But, you know, I do like, I like
the energy of the movie

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business.
It's exciting to make movies,

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you know, to watch other done.
Shane does a great job.

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He gets very serious.
So I see a different side of my

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oldest son, you know.
When he's kind of laid back but

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when there's a movie he's
intense and how he does it and

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how he drives it and how he
moves people.

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So it's exciting to see him
work.

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I love the business it's but I
think the distilling business is

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something that that's long-term
to our family.

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So you know, we know we want to
be in this business, we want to

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be in the bourbon business, we
got in the Rye business because

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it matured faster and we were
able to put that out.

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So we want some To get accolades
on our Rabbi well and there's

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something cool about, you know,
as a parent, you know, that your

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son's work is great.
But it's kind of cool.

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When you start to see accolades
coming in from people who have

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no relation to you guys saying,
hey, yeah, like this movie is

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really good and this rye whiskey
is really good.

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Yeah.
And you're like, well, I always

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knew that it was really good but
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that.
It's really good as well.

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Yeah, there's something cool
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It is, I mean, I think, you
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I've always tried to do things
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I mean, I was just talking about
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Somebody was asking me and they
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Why are you where you are?
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don't cut corners and I don't
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don't expect to cut corners and
Distilling business for the

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movie business.
You get the right actors in it,

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even though it's a small budget,
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You treat people, right.
You know, you're there, you're

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you don't just try to run
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say be there.
Such and such you're actually

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there.
So you're you know you're

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working with people that's but
that's the difference in what I

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want to teach my son's, when
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want them to be there.
I want them to, you know, to

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understand that everything's
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Every little things important.
That what you did it's a small

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things are as important as a big
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Absolutely.
We've been talking with a couple

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distilleries on our trip here to
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our newer distilleries.
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the new distilleries is that
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everything else.
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of the the older more
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Don't necessarily do you know we
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with Bardstown bourbon company
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bill right on the side of the
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what you all are doing here is,
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transparent because you are, but
it's also that you're creating

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something on a smaller scale on
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you're doing it with this sort
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that sort of spirit in these
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the Your ones as you've gotten
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It's it's, it's an interesting

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business.
I believe not speaking about

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Bardstown.
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I know David down there and
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Distillery beautiful,
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But I think a lot of people
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Distilling business or getting
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And I that's not what my
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I'm not for sale.
I've been, I've been an

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investment banker.
I've had big big companies.

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I'm not I'm here to stay.
Yeah, so so people get into it

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and then they want to sell it.
They want to make a lot of money

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and go on.
That's not what my interest is.

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I want to be here, work with
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tell them the values of how I
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that's the way I want them to
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Absolutely.
So, you know, I think you have

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to be upfront about everything
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I'm not going to, I'm not going
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just finished.
Don't we?

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Just don't do that short.
We're put, you know, I think

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with, with the accolades We've
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Only been out on the market for
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speaks for itself.
I mean, we're ranked, we just

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won the award.
There's an award sitting on the

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table right here.
This award.

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That's the award that we receive
March the 28th and London, we,

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that's, we won the number one.
Craft producer in the world.

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3200 craft producers in the
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On, on January, the 30th, we won
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We won the number one.
Craft producer had a And 300

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craft distilleries in the United
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So we do it, right?
Absolutely.

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Yeah.
And everything you're talking

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about here is the essence of
distilling, whiskey, and the.

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And we've said this before on
the podcast, you can't rush

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whiskey.
You have to have patience.

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You have to have the essence of
everything you're saying.

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You have to have longevity, you
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crap.
You have to be committed to what

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it takes to produce a good
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And we said this at the start, a
lot of people might Rush out of

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barrel, at two to two and a half
years and because they need the

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money, or they need this or that
one, they're putting out a

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subpar product.
So, everything you just said,

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is, is distilled into the
essence of whiskey of patients

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and making sure that you are
putting out the best products

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that you possibly can there.
That's exactly, right.

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We, we've looked at a lot of
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I know everybody, they try to go
to a smaller Barrel.

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They try to go, you know,
different ways they can.

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Can age product.
There's different things to do.

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I'm just going to do it.
The old way, I'm going to do it

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the way.
It was 100 years ago.

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I'm going to put them in a Rik
house.

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I'm going to put them on Rick's,
I'm only going to go one floor

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on the Rick because I want to be
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my product.
So there's there's ways you can

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cut corners, but when you cut
Corners, you cut quality.

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Well, I can say and I'm sure I

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can speak for Brad as well.
You are not cutting quality

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here.
No, this is fantastic product

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that you're producing and I just
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Your whole family into the whole
family here at Peerless.

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Thank you so much for having us
here today.

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Well, thank you for having me.
I appreciate that.

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Absolutely, this has been Corky
Taylor, the owner, the CEO of

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the president of Kentucky
Peerless and for the film and

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whiskey podcast, I am Bob book,
I grab G.

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We'll see you next time.